[00:00.000 --> 00:23.600] I've done that and I think it's pretty cool. [00:23.600 --> 00:27.860] So then, let's see, we talked about interrogatories, those are questions. [00:27.860 --> 00:35.300] In some jurisdictions, they don't even call it interrogatories, they just say deposition [00:35.300 --> 00:41.060] by written questions or written questions and it's really just... [00:41.060 --> 00:44.580] Also a limit on the number of interrogatories you can request. [00:44.580 --> 00:52.940] Yes, they have a limit, most of them do, and some in the Fed, they may not have a limit [00:52.940 --> 00:57.480] on one thing or another, but they say that the judge will consider whether it's reasonable. [00:57.480 --> 01:04.160] So you can't just dump 500 pages of questions at them, you need to make it be reasonable [01:04.160 --> 01:11.080] that you're an objective reader will look at this and say, oh, he's going to some evidence [01:11.080 --> 01:16.460] that really does deal with these essential elements and he's not just rambling and trying [01:16.460 --> 01:19.800] to make them busy. [01:19.800 --> 01:25.760] So we're not asking for evidence we don't need, and we don't ask for things that don't [01:25.760 --> 01:28.440] go to an essential element. [01:28.440 --> 01:34.120] So production is for documents, so disclosure is another one. [01:34.120 --> 01:39.360] There may be some... [01:39.360 --> 01:40.360] Something that wasn't really... [01:40.360 --> 01:45.240] It's not a document, it's not a record you can request, but you need them to disclose. [01:45.240 --> 01:58.320] Let's say you need them to disclose the date on which a certain procedure was rolled out. [01:58.320 --> 02:05.280] Well, you're not asking for a document really, you just need them to give you the evidence [02:05.280 --> 02:15.120] that you need so that, hey, I can't be accused of this thing retroactively, and so you're [02:16.000 --> 02:24.440] opposition has already stipulated that this occurred on January 4th. [02:24.440 --> 02:26.480] So how can I be accused? [02:26.480 --> 02:32.040] You can argue it later, but once it's established, that would be a disclosure. [02:32.040 --> 02:33.480] Let's see. [02:33.480 --> 02:36.460] Another thing you can do is depositions. [02:36.460 --> 02:39.600] We often see this in the movies. [02:39.600 --> 02:46.960] We will see somebody dragged into a room with a camera, and they've got a lawyer dancing [02:46.960 --> 02:53.560] around asking them a bunch of questions, isn't it true that you were... [02:53.560 --> 03:02.240] And you know, you can't ask all those kinds of leading questions, but you can get these [03:02.240 --> 03:05.000] people to just talk. [03:05.480 --> 03:10.760] When you depose somebody, the purpose is not just to waste their 10 hours, or however many [03:10.760 --> 03:13.400] the limit is, different states, it's different amounts. [03:13.400 --> 03:18.200] Let me make a comment on leading questions. [03:18.200 --> 03:30.700] If the person you're deposing is the opposite party's witness, that witness is considered [03:30.700 --> 03:33.260] to be a hostile witness. [03:33.260 --> 03:36.180] Not when you can ask leading questions. [03:36.180 --> 03:42.020] Yes, because they're hostile in terms of they don't want to help you. [03:42.020 --> 03:45.240] They're not particularly interested in the cause of justice. [03:45.240 --> 03:48.140] They're trying to protect their buddy or their wife or whatever. [03:48.140 --> 03:51.880] Even if it's your witness. [03:51.880 --> 03:58.940] So you get stopped and you get arrested, and there were the primary actors, but there are [03:59.160 --> 04:07.160] a couple of them over there who are not named in your claim, but they're just witnesses. [04:07.160 --> 04:13.360] If they do not voluntarily come forward and you have to summon them, you can have them [04:13.360 --> 04:14.360] declared... [04:14.360 --> 04:18.640] You'd have to go to the court, since it's your witness, and ask the court to declare [04:18.640 --> 04:24.800] this witness a hostile witness, so you can ask them leading questions. [04:24.800 --> 04:30.300] So in court, when you bring somebody, you mention dragging somebody up on the stand, [04:30.300 --> 04:32.740] that would be a subpoena. [04:32.740 --> 04:38.220] A subpoena says, I'm grabbing you, like it or not, and you're going to be up on the witness [04:38.220 --> 04:39.220] stand. [04:39.220 --> 04:44.780] You have evidence that's essential to my case, and it's going to come out of your mouth. [04:44.780 --> 04:49.900] We're going to put you under oath, and you've got to testify. [04:49.900 --> 04:50.900] That's a subpoena. [04:51.800 --> 04:56.520] Now, there's a special kind of subpoena that says, bring it with you. [04:56.520 --> 04:58.760] Subpoena duces tecum. [04:58.760 --> 05:03.480] That means not only do you have to come over here and get up on the stand, but you also [05:03.480 --> 05:10.720] have to bring with you, for example, all of the data that you collected from my cell phone [05:10.720 --> 05:15.160] when you grabbed it on Wednesday the 14th. [05:15.160 --> 05:18.760] Bring that data with you to court. [05:18.760 --> 05:21.820] When you come to court, yes, you're being dragged into court, and yes, you're going [05:21.820 --> 05:24.620] to be put up on the stand, and you're going to have to swear to tell the truth and the [05:24.620 --> 05:28.220] whole truth and nothing but the truth, and you have to bring with you all the data that [05:28.220 --> 05:32.940] you took off my phone. [05:32.940 --> 05:34.780] So this is part of discovery. [05:34.780 --> 05:37.700] This is you getting the evidence that you need. [05:37.700 --> 05:43.100] But what if you don't want to be surprised by that in court and find out that the data [05:43.100 --> 05:51.120] that they got off of your phone actually showed the GPS logs of you spending too much time [05:51.120 --> 05:55.960] in the red light district and you probably did the crime? [05:55.960 --> 06:02.960] What if you actually want to find out before trial what data they had off your phone? [06:02.960 --> 06:11.160] So that's when you depose the person and you use your discovery request for production [06:11.280 --> 06:17.360] of documents or for disclosure of whatever data they came up with. [06:17.360 --> 06:27.940] So this is in a lot of ways better than bringing the person along with a surprise package. [06:27.940 --> 06:34.280] You want to know what evidence is being admitted before it gets admitted. [06:35.280 --> 06:44.280] Well, I think that pretty much covers everything I was thinking about to share about discovery. [06:44.280 --> 06:47.880] We do have one caller on the board so far. [06:47.880 --> 06:49.800] Anybody else wants to come and join in? [06:49.800 --> 06:54.800] It's 512-646-1984. [06:54.800 --> 06:59.800] Randy, is there anything else you want to add or would you like to go ahead to our callers here? [06:59.800 --> 07:02.120] No, I don't want to add anything. [07:02.160 --> 07:05.160] I was sitting here trying to absorb everything you said. [07:05.160 --> 07:08.160] Well, I hope it came across and made sense. [07:08.160 --> 07:13.160] One little thing, you mentioned in passing a motion in Lemony. [07:13.160 --> 07:14.160] Yes. [07:14.160 --> 07:17.160] Can you explain to them what that is? [07:17.160 --> 07:18.160] Yes. [07:18.160 --> 07:26.280] In Lemony means you want to tell in your motion, you want to have the court declare that these [07:26.280 --> 07:30.200] are the things that can't be brought up. [07:30.280 --> 07:37.180] So, you can't talk about this, you can't hang your head on that because they've already [07:37.180 --> 07:43.360] been admitted or because, you know, opposing counsel already had ample opportunity to support [07:43.360 --> 07:46.520] such and such and failed to refuse to do so. [07:46.520 --> 07:52.080] Whatever is your grounds for it, you are saying this is something you can't talk about. [07:52.080 --> 07:56.680] I once filed a motion in Lemony that I found in a court case. [07:57.160 --> 08:01.960] When I first started doing legal research, figuring this out, I went down and pulled [08:01.960 --> 08:08.440] a bunch of cases and just went through the cases and I found this 31-page motion in Lemony. [08:08.440 --> 08:13.880] And I'm in front of the judge going through all of the things I'm objecting to the prosecutor [08:13.880 --> 08:21.320] bringing up and the judge was PO'd, he wanted to go play golf and he had to sit down and [08:21.320 --> 08:30.880] go through this 31-page, going through all these things and denied, denied. [08:30.880 --> 08:40.920] Then I objected to the production of any transcript of any hypnotic interviews and the judge [08:40.920 --> 08:44.840] is furious, Mr. Calvin, will you hypnotize? [08:44.840 --> 08:50.000] Well, I don't know, Judge, you know how they make you forget that kind of stuff. [08:50.000 --> 08:53.440] Let's kill him, denied, denied. [08:53.440 --> 08:56.560] That was so much fun. [08:56.560 --> 09:04.480] Anyway, another motion in Lemony, if you don't have one, I've got one somewhere. [09:04.480 --> 09:06.160] This got everything in it. [09:06.160 --> 09:13.400] Yeah, so I think the place that fits is after you've got admissions, you've already put [09:13.400 --> 09:17.920] in some really killer statements that are going to just really make your case how it [09:17.920 --> 09:19.640] needs to be. [09:19.640 --> 09:29.160] And to sort of protect that evidence, you say... [09:29.160 --> 09:35.840] What this one did is it mentioned stuff that hadn't been brought up in the case, hadn't [09:35.840 --> 09:41.720] been considered in the case, but it seems like this was an experienced lawyer and he's [09:41.720 --> 09:47.320] had stuff being brought up that surprised him, that caught him kind of with his pants [09:47.360 --> 09:53.720] down that were really not proper, but he had to argue it in front of the court. 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[14:46.180 --> 14:50.180] He has left me with the strength and wisdom. [14:50.180 --> 14:53.180] I will aid my concern. [14:53.180 --> 14:57.180] I will lie by my father's house. [14:57.180 --> 15:04.180] I will lie by my father's house, till I see his face. [15:04.180 --> 15:05.180] All right. [15:05.180 --> 15:06.180] We are back. [15:06.180 --> 15:08.180] This is the Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. [15:08.180 --> 15:10.180] I'm Brett Fountain. [15:10.180 --> 15:18.780] On this Friday, the 20th of June, 2025, and we've been talking about evidence and focusing [15:18.780 --> 15:21.780] specifically on discovery. [15:21.780 --> 15:26.940] And now we've got one caller, Scott in Georgia. [15:27.940 --> 15:33.940] If anybody else wants to call in, it's 512-646-1984. [15:33.940 --> 15:35.940] Good evening, Scott. [15:35.940 --> 15:37.940] What's on your mind? [15:37.940 --> 15:38.940] Oh, not much. [15:38.940 --> 15:39.940] How y'all doing? [15:39.940 --> 15:41.940] Doing great. [15:41.940 --> 15:45.940] I guess I called in the correct night. [15:45.940 --> 15:47.940] Subject matters on evidence, huh? [15:50.940 --> 15:52.940] Well, what's on your mind? [15:52.940 --> 15:55.940] I mean, we can talk about evidence, but if you've got a question, something that you're [15:55.940 --> 15:58.940] dealing with, we'd be happy to look at it with you. [15:58.940 --> 15:59.940] Yeah. [15:59.940 --> 16:00.940] Yeah, that's what I'm calling in. [16:00.940 --> 16:03.940] I'm dealing with problems with getting evidence on the record. [16:06.940 --> 16:09.940] You know, evidence to prove my claims when I raise suits. [16:09.940 --> 16:15.940] And, you know, judges just downright obstruct, conceal relevant evidence. [16:18.940 --> 16:23.940] You know, that's a big problem with evidence getting embedded on a record in our courts. [16:23.940 --> 16:24.940] Yeah. [16:24.940 --> 16:29.940] Is this evidence, is this in a... [16:29.940 --> 16:33.940] So, I guess, are you familiar with the rules of evidence? [16:33.940 --> 16:34.940] Oh, yeah. [16:34.940 --> 16:41.940] The relevancy is it's a ministerial function that a judge has to admit, shall admit. [16:41.940 --> 16:46.940] And they're just completely refusing to perform their ministerial functions. [16:46.940 --> 16:47.940] All right. [16:47.940 --> 16:48.940] Wait a minute. [16:48.940 --> 16:49.940] This is kind of vague. [16:49.940 --> 16:56.940] Can you give us a brief synopsis of the nature of the case so we kind of understand context? [16:56.940 --> 17:05.940] Well, for once, it's a voter integrity suit. [17:05.940 --> 17:15.940] The ministerial function I'm speaking about is the Board of Registries in a county. [17:15.940 --> 17:16.940] What's that? [17:19.940 --> 17:22.940] So, you're saying voter integrity? [17:22.940 --> 17:24.940] Yeah, voter integrity suit. [17:24.940 --> 17:25.940] Okay. [17:26.940 --> 17:29.940] So, are you a plaintiff? [17:30.940 --> 17:31.940] What's that? [17:32.940 --> 17:34.940] Are you the plaintiff? [17:35.940 --> 17:36.940] Yes. [17:37.940 --> 17:38.940] Okay. [17:38.940 --> 17:43.940] Kind of give us an idea of what the voter integrity, what does that mean? [17:43.940 --> 17:44.940] The Board of Registries. [17:44.940 --> 17:46.940] And tell us who you're suing. [17:47.940 --> 17:52.940] The Board of Registries, a county Board of Registries. [17:54.940 --> 17:55.940] Okay. [17:55.940 --> 17:59.940] So, you're suing about irregularities in the voting process. [17:59.940 --> 18:00.940] Is that correct? [18:00.940 --> 18:05.940] Well, just downright, subversion of law was going on. [18:05.940 --> 18:12.940] Our general certification tickets, they're being certified under Canadian law. [18:12.940 --> 18:15.940] I mean, for all that. [18:16.940 --> 18:17.940] Wait a minute. [18:17.940 --> 18:26.940] You've got a Board of Certifications certifying elections under Canadian law? [18:26.940 --> 18:27.940] Yeah, yeah. [18:27.940 --> 18:33.940] You know, just take a precinct or precinct where you have a voter polling place where [18:33.940 --> 18:35.940] you go vote. [18:36.940 --> 18:40.940] Well, at the end of the night when they close the polls, they have voter, they have what [18:40.940 --> 18:45.940] they call poll officials that count the votes. [18:45.940 --> 18:54.940] Well, then after they count it, they certify a general certification receipt pops out and [18:54.940 --> 18:57.940] certify it under Canadian law. [18:57.940 --> 19:00.940] Well, how did they get to Canadian law? [19:00.940 --> 19:01.940] I know. [19:01.940 --> 19:05.940] That's what we're trying to figure out too. [19:05.940 --> 19:06.940] From Georgia. [19:06.940 --> 19:07.940] Wow. [19:07.940 --> 19:12.940] Georgia election code. [19:12.940 --> 19:20.940] But anyways, what I was getting at is the ministerial functions, what must be performed. [19:20.940 --> 19:21.940] That's a suitable offense. [19:21.940 --> 19:27.940] You know, that's pretty much a criminal offense when they breach their function, you know, [19:27.940 --> 19:28.940] their duties. [19:28.940 --> 19:36.940] So, you're saying there were specific statutory requirements and these officials failed to [19:36.940 --> 19:41.940] abide by those statutory requirements, things that they were commanded to do or commanded [19:41.940 --> 19:44.940] not to do. [19:44.940 --> 19:49.940] Do you have an official oppression or official misconduct statute in Georgia? [19:49.940 --> 19:50.940] No. [19:50.940 --> 19:51.940] Oh, yeah. [19:51.940 --> 19:53.940] That's what we'll go on after. [19:53.940 --> 19:59.940] Well, just as a quick little aside for the listeners, ministerial, for anybody who doesn't [19:59.940 --> 20:07.940] quite recognize and maybe not tracking with him about that, judges have, for the most [20:07.940 --> 20:14.940] part, they're doing judicial functions, or that tends to be the way that most people [20:14.940 --> 20:15.940] think of it. [20:15.940 --> 20:19.940] But they also have other duties that are not judicial in nature. [20:19.940 --> 20:25.940] They just have duties, things that have to be done, and the statute commands them to [20:25.940 --> 20:26.940] do it. [20:26.940 --> 20:31.940] And our legislature have decided that the judge must do thus and such. [20:31.940 --> 20:36.060] And it doesn't have to do with him trying to decide whether it should be done or not. [20:36.060 --> 20:38.820] That's judicial, and it's within a case. [20:38.820 --> 20:42.940] But here we have things that are his duty, and that's what he means ministerial. [20:42.940 --> 20:50.940] It's where the judge has no discretion, and most of them talk about 15.09. [20:51.940 --> 20:56.940] And when I read 15.09, that's what leaped out at me. [20:56.940 --> 21:01.940] 15.09 says, when a complaint is forwarded to a magistrate in accordance with 15.08, [21:01.940 --> 21:10.940] and it's complete in accordance with 15.09, the magistrate shall forthwith issue a warrant. [21:10.940 --> 21:17.940] No wiggle room, no making a determination of probable cause, none of that stuff. [21:17.940 --> 21:20.940] He was commanded to do a specific thing. [21:20.940 --> 21:23.940] That is a ministerial duty. [21:23.940 --> 21:25.940] That's not a judicial act. [21:25.940 --> 21:30.940] And since it's ministerial, no immunity, zero. [21:30.940 --> 21:37.940] So, Scott, I have a question for you about going back to evidence and the admissibility [21:37.940 --> 21:38.940] of evidence. [21:38.940 --> 21:44.940] Is this thing that you're asking to have admitted and they're denying, they're not admitting [21:44.940 --> 21:45.940] it. [21:45.940 --> 21:48.940] Is that something for which you have given judicial notice? [21:48.940 --> 21:55.940] I basically filed a suit, commenced it, and put all the evidence right when I put it all [21:55.940 --> 21:57.940] on the record when I first filed. [21:57.940 --> 22:00.940] So, you know, there was no notice. [22:00.940 --> 22:03.940] The law suit was the notice. [22:03.940 --> 22:04.940] Okay. [22:04.940 --> 22:09.940] So what I mean by that is in the rules of evidence, there's a rule in Texas, it's 201, [22:09.940 --> 22:12.940] and I think in the Fed as well. [22:12.940 --> 22:22.940] But it says judicial notice, and you can give notice, and a judge is required. [22:22.940 --> 22:25.940] There's no ifs or deciding, discretion. [22:25.940 --> 22:32.940] It's, like you said, his ministerial duty to admit this into evidence once you give [22:32.940 --> 22:41.940] notice of it and ask that it be put into evidence, and you provide the evidence that you're [22:41.940 --> 22:42.940] asking to have admitted. [22:42.940 --> 22:46.940] Now, what this is, it doesn't apply to any kind of, just any evidence of anything that [22:46.940 --> 22:47.940] you want to state. [22:47.940 --> 22:51.940] This only goes to certain kinds of evidence. [22:51.940 --> 22:59.940] It's non-adjudicative facts, things that are not going to be decided or figured out if [22:59.940 --> 23:00.940] it's true or not. [23:00.940 --> 23:07.940] This is just things that, that's just the way it is, and everybody knows it. [23:08.940 --> 23:17.940] or the source of that information can't be reasonably questioned, such as the court clerk's [23:17.940 --> 23:20.940] official record of the court. [23:20.940 --> 23:25.940] Like, it says that on such and such date, the case was commenced. [23:25.940 --> 23:31.940] You can't go in there later and say that it started a year earlier. [23:31.940 --> 23:37.940] It is a matter of record that this is the date that the plaintiff came to the court [23:37.940 --> 23:41.940] and asked for the, sorry? [23:41.940 --> 23:50.940] It goes to two specific things, facts that are not in contention or that cannot be put [23:50.940 --> 23:53.940] in contention, and law. [23:53.940 --> 23:58.940] The court must take judicial notice of the law as it's put before the court. [23:58.940 --> 24:03.940] I've said on here a lot of times that a judge has two duties. [24:03.940 --> 24:07.940] He must determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, then apply the [24:07.940 --> 24:09.940] laws that comes to him. [24:09.940 --> 24:11.940] As it comes to him. [24:11.940 --> 24:12.940] As it comes to him. [24:12.940 --> 24:15.940] So he can't go out and do the legal research himself. [24:15.940 --> 24:17.940] You've got to bring it to him. [24:17.940 --> 24:22.940] And when you bring it to him, you put it on the record and you can ask the judge to take [24:22.940 --> 24:28.940] judicial notice because if you're going to an issue where the judge is not going to [24:28.940 --> 24:31.940] want to rule in your favor. [24:31.940 --> 24:33.940] Exactly. [24:33.940 --> 24:38.940] But those facts on the record, you ask the court to take judicial notice because under [24:38.940 --> 24:47.940] Walker v. Packer, the federal courts have said, a judge has no discretion in properly [24:48.940 --> 24:50.940] applying the law to the facts. [24:50.940 --> 24:54.940] A failure to do so is an abuse of discretion. [24:54.940 --> 25:00.940] And the way I read the codes, if a public official abuses his discretion to my detriment, [25:00.940 --> 25:05.940] that's a crime in every state and in the Fed. [25:05.940 --> 25:08.940] I'll shut up now. [25:08.940 --> 25:13.940] Well, that's just why I was asking Scott if he had given judicial notice or requested [25:13.940 --> 25:19.940] that judicial notice be taken because then he's invoking rule 201, which is mandatory [25:19.940 --> 25:26.940] in nature and forces the judge to admit something into evidence that, like you said, he may [25:26.940 --> 25:30.940] or may not really want to. [25:30.940 --> 25:36.940] Yeah, I'm real careful with the evidence, but I love direct material evidence. [25:36.940 --> 25:37.940] There's no arguing against it. [25:37.940 --> 25:40.940] It's what we call adjudicated facts. [25:40.940 --> 25:42.940] And yeah, you're correct. [25:42.940 --> 25:46.940] The judge has no discretion. [25:46.940 --> 25:50.940] Go ahead. [25:50.940 --> 25:57.940] How have you found the courts in coming to these issues? [25:57.940 --> 26:06.940] There's been so much political upheaval about problems with the voting process. [26:06.940 --> 26:09.940] How are you finding the courts as they're addressing this? [26:09.940 --> 26:14.940] Are they taking it serious or do they seem to be biased one way or another? [26:14.940 --> 26:18.940] Oh, yeah, they're downright showing favoritism to the defendants. [26:18.940 --> 26:21.940] The defendants are government servants. [26:21.940 --> 26:24.940] So it's all bias. [26:24.940 --> 26:29.940] All these guys are pretty much bar association buddies. [26:29.940 --> 26:31.940] And they're showing favoritism. [26:31.940 --> 26:37.940] They're basically obstructing justice is what's happening, committing racketeering activities. [26:37.940 --> 26:43.940] Have you considered charging them with that? [26:43.940 --> 26:48.940] Well, that's what the suit is after. [26:48.940 --> 26:56.940] Say the first one I filed was against the election board, the Board of Registers. [26:56.940 --> 27:02.940] Well, once we convince the suit, and it's also against the governor and the secretary of state. [27:03.940 --> 27:08.940] But once we start to suit, the judge now starts obstructing. [27:08.940 --> 27:13.940] He fails to perform his ministerial functions, his duties. [27:13.940 --> 27:28.940] And he now starts entering into the criminality of the first defendants and now is becoming a defendant himself, along with the defendant's attorneys. [27:28.940 --> 27:33.940] Have you been... [27:33.940 --> 27:37.940] Say that again. I wasn't listening. I was talking. Say that again. [27:37.940 --> 27:46.940] Oh, okay. What I'm discovering is in the court documents, they're crafting fraudulent narratives. [27:46.940 --> 27:52.940] That does not match the facts in the case, the adjudicated facts, the provable facts. [27:52.940 --> 27:57.940] Oh, I wish I had a nickel for every time that happened. [27:57.940 --> 27:59.940] Right. 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Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Scott Georgia. [31:29.940 --> 31:37.940] Scott, this is an interesting topic because the way politics is going right now [31:37.940 --> 31:46.940] and the kind of scrutiny that has been put on the elections for the last two or three election terms, [31:46.940 --> 31:50.940] there's a lot of people interested in this subject matter. [31:50.940 --> 32:01.940] What was it that they were doing wrong and that you're complaining about? [32:01.940 --> 32:11.940] I presume when you say they that you're referring to when I claim the defendants or the Board of Registers. [32:11.940 --> 32:13.940] The defendants. [32:13.940 --> 32:14.940] Yes. [32:14.940 --> 32:18.940] Because one question that came to my mind while you were talking about this, [32:18.940 --> 32:26.940] and maybe that's why Randy is asking this, you said they were certifying according to Canadian law. [32:26.940 --> 32:34.940] And one question that popped up in my mind and maybe in the judge and the jury would think the same. [32:34.940 --> 32:40.940] They would say, well, just because something is codified in Canadian law [32:40.940 --> 32:44.940] doesn't mean that it's not a smart thing for everybody to do. [32:44.940 --> 32:48.940] And maybe two thirds of the countries around the world are doing this, [32:48.940 --> 32:52.940] but we just don't have it codified into law, but it's a good idea. [32:52.940 --> 32:58.940] So they do it. What's wrong with that? You know what I mean? [32:58.940 --> 33:04.940] Yeah. And my thought was, okay, they're doing this according to Canadian law. [33:04.940 --> 33:12.940] Does it in any way? Is it in any way at odds with Georgia law? [33:12.940 --> 33:16.940] Right. There you go. [33:16.940 --> 33:23.940] Absolutely. They're failing at their ministerial functions to properly follow the Georgia election code. [33:23.940 --> 33:26.940] That's what it's supposed to be certified under. [33:26.940 --> 33:34.940] And we're challenging that process and they're just absolutely refusing to perform their ministerial functions. [33:34.940 --> 33:38.940] Have you filed criminally against them? [33:38.940 --> 33:44.940] Yes, our suit is actually criminal and civil. [33:44.940 --> 33:47.940] Wait, in one suit? [33:47.940 --> 33:54.940] Yeah. Have you ever heard of a term called a key timer letter? [33:54.940 --> 34:00.940] I guess you'd say nowadays people know better as a whistleblower. [34:00.940 --> 34:04.940] Well, we have a process here in Georgia as a private... [34:04.940 --> 34:07.940] Wait a minute. Hold on. Step back. [34:07.940 --> 34:14.940] Is this filed as a whistleblower suit wherein you have inside information? [34:14.940 --> 34:20.940] Or is this filed as, say, a private attorney general suit? [34:20.940 --> 34:26.940] It would probably... We're approaching it two different ways. [34:26.940 --> 34:30.940] Pretty much in a private attorney way. [34:30.940 --> 34:41.940] But the way the statute is worded here in Georgia is just a private person can raise a suit against government agencies. [34:41.940 --> 34:47.940] Let me explain to everyone for those who don't know what a private attorney general suit is. [34:47.940 --> 34:55.940] There's a lot of mythology out there in the patriot movement about being a private attorney general. [34:55.940 --> 34:57.940] There is no such thing. [34:57.940 --> 35:04.940] Now, there is a suit that the courts have labeled a private attorney general suit. [35:04.940 --> 35:09.940] And they have allowed these kinds of suits. [35:09.940 --> 35:17.940] That's where something has occurred and it has affected a lot of people. [35:17.940 --> 35:24.940] But it would cost so much to adjudicate it that nobody will take it on. [35:24.940 --> 35:31.940] Like you get a traffic ticket and they're using some practice that's horribly illegal. [35:31.940 --> 35:34.940] But it's just a traffic ticket. [35:34.940 --> 35:40.940] I mean, why is it going to cost you 300 bucks? It costs you $50,000 to adjudicate this. [35:40.940 --> 35:46.940] So what the courts have said is they will allow what they call a private attorney general suit. [35:46.940 --> 35:55.940] And that's where you sue in your own behalf and on the behalf of all others similarly situated. [35:55.940 --> 36:00.940] It is on the order of a class action suit. [36:00.940 --> 36:05.940] But in a private attorney general suit, you don't have to certify a class. [36:05.940 --> 36:10.940] And the rest of the class does not have standing in the suit. [36:10.940 --> 36:18.940] With class action suits, the lawyers get all the money and the litigants get screwed. [36:18.940 --> 36:29.940] But a private attorney general suit, if the one who files the suit wins, he gets to keep the money. [36:29.940 --> 36:35.940] So that's what we were saying, that you're seeing that something's going wrong in the government. [36:35.940 --> 36:39.940] And that's why I was asking how you're suing them. [36:39.940 --> 36:43.940] Yeah, it's here in Georgia, it's called Relators. [36:43.940 --> 36:54.940] It's an old term. It's an old term, but yeah, it's an action, a right of action to proceed as a relator [36:54.940 --> 36:59.940] and a private person raising criminal charges. [36:59.940 --> 37:08.940] But also under Georgia constitutional, under the Constitution, this is Article 1, Section 1, Paragraph 12, [37:08.940 --> 37:14.940] I think it is, is a provision claiming the rights of court. [37:14.940 --> 37:24.940] And in that provision it said no person shall be deprived of prosecuting his own cause in any court in the state. [37:24.940 --> 37:32.940] So basically right there, you can move in your own person as a prosecutor. [37:32.940 --> 37:36.940] So we're proceeding in that manner as well. [37:41.940 --> 37:50.940] Am I getting this right? You're initiating a private prosecution where you're standing in the shoes of a prosecutor? [37:51.940 --> 37:56.940] Yeah, I mean, that's under the terms of the Constitutional provision. [37:56.940 --> 38:02.940] A person cannot be deprived of the right to prosecute his own cause. [38:02.940 --> 38:06.940] So that's basically stapling, you're a prosecutor in your own seat. [38:06.940 --> 38:10.940] You're prosecuting your issue, your cause. [38:10.940 --> 38:14.940] So I mean, you move in your own manner, in your own person. [38:15.940 --> 38:21.940] So this goes to something that has been in law for a long time. [38:21.940 --> 38:28.940] Before the institution of government prosecutors in the 1860s, [38:28.940 --> 38:40.940] before that time, if you had a crime committed against you, there was no state prosecutor to pick that up. [38:40.940 --> 38:45.940] You'd have to hire a lawyer and you would sue the person criminally. [38:45.940 --> 38:48.940] And the public had the power to do that. [38:48.940 --> 39:01.940] Anyone here remember Rooster Cogburn, the woman, the girl, the main character? [39:01.940 --> 39:07.940] She came to Arkansas to find this person who had killed her father [39:08.940 --> 39:15.940] because she had this lawyer dagget who was going to prosecute this guy [39:15.940 --> 39:22.940] for she was going to sue him in a criminal prosecution over killing her father. [39:22.940 --> 39:27.940] Probably if you didn't understand the law, most people missed what was going on there. [39:27.940 --> 39:30.940] That wasn't a civil suit, that was a criminal suit. [39:30.940 --> 39:35.940] Because it's time to wear no public prosecutors, [39:35.940 --> 39:38.940] so you had to hire your own attorney and do the prosecution yourself. [39:38.940 --> 39:45.940] After, I think it was 1863, when they instituted public prosecutors, [39:45.940 --> 39:54.940] then the citizen lost standing to sue for a crime against him, [39:54.940 --> 39:58.940] lost standing to sue for the crime itself. [39:58.940 --> 40:04.940] He could sue for the civil damages in the civil court, but he could not sue under criminal law. [40:04.940 --> 40:07.940] Does that make sense, Scott? [40:07.940 --> 40:10.940] Yes, absolutely. [40:10.940 --> 40:16.940] Georgia's got some old, ancient rights. [40:16.940 --> 40:21.940] I mean, it's a constitution like the one you were just talking about [40:21.940 --> 40:25.940] before state prosecutors were established. [40:25.940 --> 40:28.940] But see, we still have that right. [40:28.940 --> 40:33.940] And it's in our constitution, any rights prior, you don't lose rights. [40:33.940 --> 40:36.940] But they are obstructing it. [40:36.940 --> 40:45.940] And so, yeah, we're proceeding constitutionally on their breach of ministerial function. [40:45.940 --> 40:49.940] So that's crucial, and I think that's happened all across the country. [40:49.940 --> 40:58.940] What the board is being charged with, the ministerial function, [40:58.940 --> 41:01.940] is they refuse to clean the voter rolls. [41:01.940 --> 41:11.940] After, they use their discretion to vote in a 5-0 vote to strike some of these electors' names. [41:11.940 --> 41:16.940] A top cybersecurity expert has a warning for America. [41:16.940 --> 41:20.940] If you build an electrical smart grid, the hackers will come, [41:20.940 --> 41:23.940] and they could cause a catastrophic blackout. [41:23.940 --> 41:27.940] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back with the shocking details in a moment. [41:27.940 --> 41:29.940] Privacy is under attack. [41:29.940 --> 41:33.940] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. 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[45:36.940 --> 45:39.940] They're not performing their ministerial functions. [45:39.940 --> 45:42.940] Pursuing them for not performing their ministerial functions. [45:42.940 --> 45:49.940] And then he mentioned something about they needed to clean the list [45:49.940 --> 45:52.940] or refresh something before they did something else. [45:52.940 --> 45:59.940] And I'm hoping, just, you know, for Scott's sake, [45:59.940 --> 46:04.940] I'm hoping that the things being complained about [46:04.940 --> 46:09.940] or the challenged conduct really is ministerial in nature. [46:10.940 --> 46:15.940] And by that, I mean something that's codified into law that they're required to do. [46:15.940 --> 46:20.940] Because, I mean, they may be doing something unethical [46:20.940 --> 46:24.940] that's not exactly a ministerial function, [46:24.940 --> 46:28.940] or they may be doing something that's just stupid. [46:28.940 --> 46:34.940] But for it to be categorized as ministerial, [46:35.940 --> 46:41.940] it needs to have a law that straight up says what they're required to do [46:41.940 --> 46:43.940] and they're doing and they're not doing it. [46:43.940 --> 46:50.940] Or the law has to straight up forbid them from X, Y, Z, [46:50.940 --> 46:54.940] and guess what they're exactly doing is X, Y, Z that they're forbidden to do. [46:54.940 --> 46:58.940] That would be ministerial. [46:59.940 --> 47:06.940] So, is what they're doing ministerial doing or not doing? [47:06.940 --> 47:12.940] Yeah, that's what I'm getting at is I would like for Scott to speak to that. [47:12.940 --> 47:16.940] Just kind of clarify which are the things that, [47:16.940 --> 47:20.940] what is this challenged conduct specifically? [47:22.940 --> 47:24.940] Let me unmute you. [47:24.940 --> 47:32.940] There were some citizens that had found some areas where some voters were registered [47:32.940 --> 47:35.940] and claiming to have residency, [47:35.940 --> 47:45.940] but we discovered the evidence directly presents that nobody lives at these addresses. [47:45.940 --> 47:52.940] So, did they have a specific duty to check each one of these to ensure that? [47:53.940 --> 47:58.940] We checked them and gave them the evidence and they all voted. [47:58.940 --> 48:00.940] This is where they used their discretion. [48:00.940 --> 48:07.940] They all voted 5-0 to remove these names from the list of electors. [48:07.940 --> 48:09.940] That is their discretion. [48:09.940 --> 48:18.940] And then once they used their discretion to vote 5-0 to remove names, [48:18.940 --> 48:27.940] now there comes to a ministerial function, a ministerial duty to remove the names. [48:27.940 --> 48:33.940] Once they decide, yes, to remove the names, that statute says, shall remove the names. [48:33.940 --> 48:36.940] And they refuse to remove the names. [48:36.940 --> 48:39.940] So, they're in breach of their ministerial functions. [48:39.940 --> 48:43.940] So, they put on a show like they were doing something, [48:43.940 --> 48:47.940] but at the end of the day, it was just all for show. [48:47.940 --> 48:48.940] Correct. [48:48.940 --> 48:54.940] And then the Secretary of State, Raffensperger, he has a ministerial duty, [48:54.940 --> 48:59.940] ministerial function, shall maintain the voter rolls. [48:59.940 --> 49:07.940] And our direct evidence is proving because we filed, we challenged these voter names [49:07.940 --> 49:13.940] several times creating a repeating pattern showing that they refused to maintain the voter rolls. [49:13.940 --> 49:20.940] So, we got the Secretary of State and the voter registers in breach of their ministerial functions [49:20.940 --> 49:24.940] and under the Georgia Constitution. [49:24.940 --> 49:29.940] So, have you sued them in their individual capacity? [49:29.940 --> 49:33.940] What, did I say that again? [49:33.940 --> 49:36.940] Have you sued them in their individual capacities? [49:36.940 --> 49:44.940] Yes, we're going, the suit is also in their private, I'm suing them in their private and public capacity. [49:44.940 --> 49:54.940] Okay, that was going to be my next question because that creates a sort of a problem. [49:54.940 --> 50:05.940] Do they have a government paid lawyer who is defending them both in their civil and their private capacity? [50:05.940 --> 50:07.940] Yeah. [50:07.940 --> 50:17.940] Now, what does your Constitution say about providing extra emoluments to public officials [50:17.940 --> 50:23.940] outside the limits of their constitutional agreement? [50:23.940 --> 50:29.940] The reason I ask that question that way is Texas and several other states I've looked at [50:29.940 --> 50:38.940] have a constitutional provision that forbids the government from adding perks to public employees [50:38.940 --> 50:44.940] that are not in the contract that keeps them from buying them off with tax dollars [50:44.940 --> 50:47.940] to get them to do what they want them to do. [50:47.940 --> 50:50.940] And so, it's probably in your Constitution. [50:50.940 --> 50:59.940] So, if they're providing these officials with legal counsel defending them in their private capacity, [50:59.940 --> 51:08.940] that is a breach of the public trust, misappropriation of public funds, [51:08.940 --> 51:19.940] and any motions filed in their behalf by this lawyer in their individual capacity should be stricken. [51:19.940 --> 51:27.940] Second, as the lawyer has no standing to defend them in their individual capacity. Does that make sense? [51:27.940 --> 51:36.940] Oh, it makes perfect sense because these state defenders, Bar Association members, [51:36.940 --> 51:43.940] they're protecting their buddies at the Bar Association now, such as the judge. [51:43.940 --> 51:50.940] But they're working together, showing favoritism, and they're crafting a false narrative on top of that. [51:50.940 --> 51:58.940] What I was saying is you might go in and move the court to strike all the pleadings [51:58.940 --> 52:07.940] that address the public officials' acts that they perpetrated in their personal capacity [52:07.940 --> 52:18.940] because a state-funded lawyer cannot defend these guys in their individual capacity. [52:18.940 --> 52:23.940] That provides them with an extra benefit not included in their contract. [52:23.940 --> 52:26.940] Yeah, every other criminal in the world has to go get himself a lawyer. [52:26.940 --> 52:35.940] He can't just use the public one that the public is paying for. He has to go get his own lawyer. [52:35.940 --> 52:38.940] So Randy's drawing a distinction here. You've got both. [52:38.940 --> 52:45.940] You're doing public capacity in his official capacity and in his private individual capacity. [52:45.940 --> 52:52.940] He's drawing a distinction for you and saying you can cleave off this part of that and say, [52:52.940 --> 52:59.940] okay, look, it's fine for the lawyer to be dealing with your, you know, [52:59.940 --> 53:03.940] helping you to address these issues that are in your official capacity. [53:03.940 --> 53:09.940] But that lawyer may not address anything that's in your private capacity. [53:09.940 --> 53:13.940] You better go hire your own lawyer for that. Does that make sense? [53:13.940 --> 53:23.940] Oh, yeah, it does. That's one thing we're discussing over here is, you know, they're using taxpayer money. [53:23.940 --> 53:27.940] Yeah, to defend themselves from the crimes they've committed. [53:27.940 --> 53:32.940] Exactly. Correct. Correct. And yeah, we're discussing that over here. [53:32.940 --> 53:41.940] But yeah, Randy was saying that there's a provision potentially in the Constitution. I need to look further for that. [53:41.940 --> 53:48.940] In Texas, it's Article 5, Section 50, Section 49 through 53. It's very specific. [53:48.940 --> 53:55.940] And I saw it in Arizona and one other state. So it's pretty consistent. [53:55.940 --> 54:01.940] It is a consistent problem. Every state's going to have that same concern. [54:01.940 --> 54:04.940] So I'm going to bet it's addressed somewhere. [54:16.940 --> 54:23.940] All right. You said the Texas Constitution. Where's the provision at? [54:23.940 --> 54:33.940] Article 5, Section 50, 49 through 53. But the one I used specifically was 53. [54:33.940 --> 54:37.940] Okay, it said Article 5. [54:43.940 --> 54:47.940] I'm having a little trouble understanding here. [54:47.940 --> 54:51.940] Oh, he's just repeating as he writes it down. [54:51.940 --> 54:56.940] It says Article 5 and Section 53. Yes. [54:56.940 --> 54:58.940] Well, we are just about to go to our sponsors. 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[56:58.940 --> 57:04.940] You'll receive our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, forms for civil cases, [57:04.940 --> 57:07.940] pro se tactics, and much more. [57:07.940 --> 57:11.940] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner [57:11.940 --> 57:15.940] or call toll-free 866-LAW-EZ. [57:41.940 --> 58:10.940] The people come down from the hills [58:10.940 --> 58:15.940] into the city, they will shuffle. [58:15.940 --> 58:17.940] Okay, we were back. [58:17.940 --> 58:23.940] Randy Felton, Brett Felton knew what it is, and we're talking to Scott in Georgia. [58:23.940 --> 58:30.940] So Scott, how long have you been, has this case been going on? [58:30.940 --> 58:41.940] We filed, our statutory law here states that if you use the USPS Postal Service, [58:41.940 --> 58:45.940] the date stamped on the mailing package is considered filed. [58:45.940 --> 58:50.940] So we filed November 5th, 2024 on the election day. [58:50.940 --> 58:56.940] Oh, so this has been a while, so you didn't get thrown out on the front end. [58:56.940 --> 59:01.940] No, they have obstructed it thus far, yes. [59:01.940 --> 59:05.940] So it sounds like you're making some headway. [59:05.940 --> 59:14.940] Well, they've crafted a front of a narrative, raised the issue of the petition doesn't state a claim [59:14.940 --> 59:20.940] for which relief can be granted, and it's a highly fraudulent claim, [59:20.940 --> 59:24.940] because we've got direct evidence proving all this. [59:24.940 --> 59:26.940] That's a rule of 12. [59:26.940 --> 59:28.940] Do you have the rule? [59:28.940 --> 59:35.940] Well, I guess the failure to state a claim, everybody is always going to make that argument. [59:35.940 --> 59:37.940] I know, Craig. [59:37.940 --> 59:38.940] That's just knee-jerk. [59:38.940 --> 59:44.940] But they're just absolutely refusing to acknowledge our oppositions and our direct evidence. [59:44.940 --> 59:49.940] So what we're doing, we've just filed our notice to appeal, notice of appeal, [59:49.940 --> 59:55.940] and we're fixing to take the issue all the way to the Supreme Court. [59:55.940 --> 59:58.940] Good. [59:58.940 --> 01:00:04.940] Yeah, because the judge, he has a ministerial function to admit relevant evidence. [01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:08.940] Write down Walker v. Packer. [01:00:08.940 --> 01:00:15.940] It is a Fifth Circuit case, but you're likely to find something in your circuit. [01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:17.940] What circuit are you in? [01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:18.940] Federal, sir. [01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:19.940] 11th. [01:00:19.940 --> 01:00:22.940] The federal is in the 11th district. [01:00:22.940 --> 01:00:23.940] Okay. [01:00:23.940 --> 01:00:29.940] You might find something similar, because it's so reasonable. [01:00:29.940 --> 01:00:38.940] And Walker v. Packer says, a judge has no discretion in properly applying the law to the facts. [01:00:38.940 --> 01:00:42.940] A failure to do so is an abuse of discretion. [01:00:42.940 --> 01:00:46.940] Correct. [01:00:46.940 --> 01:00:48.940] Did you say Walker v. Packer? [01:00:48.940 --> 01:00:50.940] Yes. [01:00:50.940 --> 01:01:01.940] Okay. [01:01:01.940 --> 01:01:05.940] That should give you something to hammer the judge with. [01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:07.940] Oh, yeah. [01:01:07.940 --> 01:01:12.940] Yeah, but we've already put it to them in the documents. [01:01:12.940 --> 01:01:17.940] You know, it's just, they're not, they're just refusing to perform it. [01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:25.940] And I guess they're hoping their bodies on the Bar Association at the Supreme Court is going to protect them as well, so we'll see. [01:01:25.940 --> 01:01:43.940] Well, we're basically expecting that, and so we're building the record to raise criminal suit, you know, the suits in federal court, so. [01:01:43.940 --> 01:01:44.940] Well, good. [01:01:44.940 --> 01:01:48.940] Make sure you keep us up to speed on how this goes along. [01:01:48.940 --> 01:01:55.940] And Debra mentioned on the break that you might want to talk to Laura Presley. [01:01:55.940 --> 01:01:58.940] If you will send me an email. [01:01:58.940 --> 01:02:15.940] And she took on Texas over the voting machines, claiming that all the votes should be counted, paper ballots counted in public view. [01:02:15.940 --> 01:02:22.940] And she made a lot of headway. [01:02:22.940 --> 01:02:24.940] Great. [01:02:24.940 --> 01:02:27.940] So you might want to talk to Laura. [01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:28.940] Right on. Okay. [01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:30.940] He said Laura Presley. [01:02:30.940 --> 01:02:33.940] Laura Presley. [01:02:33.940 --> 01:02:41.940] Send me an email and ask for an introduction and I'll get ahold of Laura and forward this to her. [01:02:41.940 --> 01:02:42.940] All right. [01:02:42.940 --> 01:02:53.940] I never give out personal contact information, but this is the way I do it, so everybody's happy. [01:02:53.940 --> 01:02:58.940] Yeah, of course. [01:02:58.940 --> 01:03:05.940] Okay, so where are you at in the process? [01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:12.940] The process, like I said, the notice of appeal. [01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:15.940] Oh, okay. So they've ruled against you and now you're appealing. Okay. [01:03:15.940 --> 01:03:20.940] Yeah, they've just ignored our claims, our direct evidence. [01:03:20.940 --> 01:03:23.940] They're obstructing everything. [01:03:23.940 --> 01:03:36.940] And basically have crafted a fraudulent narrative that their narrative in court documents does not match the facts at all. [01:03:36.940 --> 01:03:42.940] Wow. Have you charged aggravated perjury? [01:03:42.940 --> 01:03:47.940] Well, yeah, I mean, it's getting to that point. [01:03:47.940 --> 01:03:52.940] So, yeah, because the loyalties and all, yeah, we've pulled all the loyalties. [01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:59.940] Like I said, we're building the federal case. [01:03:59.940 --> 01:04:09.940] This is one thing people seldom do, is when criminals act like criminals, they tend not to take them on criminally. [01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:13.940] Yeah. [01:04:13.940 --> 01:04:19.940] They shrug their shoulders, they roll their eyes, and they say, look at what the world's coming to you. [01:04:19.940 --> 01:04:26.940] But they won't sit down and write up the documents that's necessary to hold our officials accountable. [01:04:26.940 --> 01:04:30.940] Correct. [01:04:30.940 --> 01:04:32.940] I'm glad you're doing that. [01:04:32.940 --> 01:04:36.940] Have you approached a grand jury at all? [01:04:36.940 --> 01:04:44.940] I mean, that's one thing, that's my right, that I love trying to exercise in the courts, and they just keep on obstructing. [01:04:44.940 --> 01:04:47.940] Okay. Did you hear the beginning of the show? [01:04:47.940 --> 01:04:56.940] No, I did not. By the time I popped up on the phone board or whatever it's called, that's about the time I tuned in. [01:04:56.940 --> 01:04:58.940] Okay. [01:04:58.940 --> 01:05:05.940] Right before that, we were talking about discovery and getting the evidence that you need together. [01:05:05.940 --> 01:05:13.940] What I was thinking about was yesterday, I was talking about grand juries. [01:05:13.940 --> 01:05:24.940] What is the only functional difference between a democracy and a republic? [01:05:24.940 --> 01:05:26.940] There's only one thing that I can find. [01:05:26.940 --> 01:05:31.940] I guess the mob rule is in a democracy. [01:05:31.940 --> 01:05:37.940] Democracy and a republic, the only difference I can find are grand juries. [01:05:37.940 --> 01:05:48.940] In a republic, it is the duty and authority of the citizens to maintain the governmental instruments they have created. [01:05:48.940 --> 01:05:58.940] The only way we have of maintaining and controlling those governmental interests is grand juries. [01:05:58.940 --> 01:06:02.940] They were the genius of our founders. [01:06:02.940 --> 01:06:16.940] George Washington spoke to democracies and said they tend to live only 200 years and are as violent in their demise as they are in their inception. [01:06:16.940 --> 01:06:21.940] Our founders hated democracies. They knew it was a horrible form of government. [01:06:21.940 --> 01:06:24.940] They did not intend to create a democracy. [01:06:24.940 --> 01:06:37.940] They intended to create a republic, and the only difference between a democracy and a republic is the ability of the citizens to hold his public officials to task. [01:06:37.940 --> 01:06:42.940] We should be going to the grand jury at the drop of a hat. [01:06:43.940 --> 01:06:52.940] Oh yeah, that was our first thing that we were demanding right in the cap. Demand trial by jury, and we got a statutory law. [01:06:52.940 --> 01:06:55.940] No, no, no, that's not what I'm talking about. [01:06:55.940 --> 01:06:58.940] Yeah, both are good things, but they're not the same. [01:06:58.940 --> 01:07:01.940] That's a pettit jury. [01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:03.940] I'm talking about a grand jury. [01:07:03.940 --> 01:07:08.940] We're demanding grand jury. Yeah, I mean, we're demanding to speak to the grand jury. [01:07:09.940 --> 01:07:18.940] We don't care. When I'm going after grand juries, I don't really care so much if I actually get to the grand jury or not. [01:07:18.940 --> 01:07:31.940] But when I go down there jumping up and down and stomping all over the courthouse, demanding access to the grand jury, it scares the bejesus out of everybody. [01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:38.940] I walked into my district attorney's office, and I'd known him for a long time, and he's sitting with his head in his hand. [01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:40.940] And I said, what's the matter, Greg? [01:07:40.940 --> 01:07:52.940] And he looked up at me with this forlorn look on his face, and he said, those darn grand jurors, you never know what they're going to do. [01:07:52.940 --> 01:07:59.940] And I stepped back, held up both hands and looked up at the ceiling and said, there is a God. [01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:04.940] I could not have heard anything better. [01:08:04.940 --> 01:08:11.940] This nonsense that prosecutors have grand juries under their thumb, that is horse manure. [01:08:11.940 --> 01:08:14.940] They never know what a grand jury is going to do. [01:08:14.940 --> 01:08:17.940] I looked through the records in Travis County. [01:08:17.940 --> 01:08:24.940] They have grand juries every day because they got five of them. [01:08:24.940 --> 01:08:27.940] And so they got lots of indictments. [01:08:27.940 --> 01:08:32.940] So I started looking through all of the minutes of the grand jury. [01:08:32.940 --> 01:08:40.940] And in every single one, there were no bills, some five or six no bills. [01:08:40.940 --> 01:08:43.940] So these grand jurors are paying attention. [01:08:43.940 --> 01:08:53.940] And if you're a public official and somebody's trying to get you before grand jury, man, I presented the district attorney for Johnson County to the grand jury myself. [01:08:53.940 --> 01:08:55.940] And oh, he was not happy. [01:08:55.940 --> 01:09:03.940] If you go to Johnson County, Texas now, file a complaint against a public official, it's going straight to the grand jury. [01:09:03.940 --> 01:09:08.940] He's not screwing with it because I almost got it. [01:09:08.940 --> 01:09:11.940] Got his attention. [01:09:11.940 --> 01:09:13.940] Wait, say that again. [01:09:13.940 --> 01:09:15.940] That's what we filed was a presentment. [01:09:15.940 --> 01:09:16.940] No, no, no, no. [01:09:16.940 --> 01:09:18.940] You can't file a presentment. [01:09:18.940 --> 01:09:20.940] Hold on. [01:09:21.940 --> 01:09:28.940] Only a prosecuting attorney can file a presentment with a grand jury. [01:09:28.940 --> 01:09:32.940] You give notice of crime to the grand jury. [01:09:32.940 --> 01:09:34.940] Well, maybe in Georgia. [01:09:34.940 --> 01:09:36.940] I don't know. [01:09:36.940 --> 01:09:37.940] You could be right. [01:09:37.940 --> 01:09:39.940] Georgia could be different. [01:09:39.940 --> 01:09:42.940] Yeah, we are out of time. [01:09:43.940 --> 01:09:48.940] Randy Kelton, Brat Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio on this. [01:09:48.940 --> 01:09:52.940] This is our Friday, the 20th of June show. [01:09:52.940 --> 01:09:54.940] Thank you all for listening. [01:09:54.940 --> 01:09:56.940] We'll be back next week. [01:09:56.940 --> 01:09:58.940] Good night.