[00:00.000 --> 00:30.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha
[00:30.000 --> 00:46.220]  gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha
[00:46.220 --> 00:48.620]  If you get hot, then you must get cool
[00:48.620 --> 00:51.420]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[00:51.420 --> 00:54.020]  Oh, what you gonna do when they come for you?
[00:54.020 --> 00:56.920]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[00:56.920 --> 00:59.620]  Oh, what you gonna do when they come for you?
[00:59.620 --> 01:02.420]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one
[01:02.420 --> 01:05.220]  You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father
[01:05.220 --> 01:07.920]  You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister
[01:07.920 --> 01:10.520]  You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me
[01:10.520 --> 01:13.420]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:13.420 --> 01:15.920]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:15.920 --> 01:18.920]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:18.920 --> 01:21.320]  Oh, what you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:21.320 --> 01:24.420]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:24.420 --> 01:26.820]  Oh, what you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:26.820 --> 01:29.820]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[01:29.820 --> 01:32.320]  Oh, what you gonna do when they come for you?
[01:32.320 --> 01:34.620]  Nobody now give you no break
[01:35.220 --> 01:37.320]  Police now give you no break
[01:37.320 --> 01:39.820]  spirits now give you no break
[01:39.820 --> 01:43.720]  Natives in your ISO now give you no break
[01:43.960 --> 01:45.220]  Okay
[01:45.220 --> 01:53.580]  Howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain radio on this Thursday, the sixth day of March
[01:53.580 --> 01:58.140]  2025.
[01:58.140 --> 02:05.140]  And we have a telegram channel and we have a couple of thousand people on it.
[02:05.140 --> 02:10.700]  And what Brett was saying is this patriot stuff comes at us in waves.
[02:11.460 --> 02:25.260]  I've been dealing with this for 30 years, all the same crap, and it never, ever works.
[02:26.420 --> 02:31.140]  I've been called all over the country to get people out of jail for doing this BS.
[02:31.300 --> 02:36.820]  My first encounter with the Republic of Texas, they called me down to see if I could
[02:36.820 --> 02:38.340]  get this kid out of jail.
[02:39.340 --> 02:49.140]  And if you look on my jurisprudence site that you can get to from the Pro Se from
[02:49.140 --> 02:54.260]  Hell site, I have a writ of habeas corpus on there.
[02:55.260 --> 03:01.380]  I wrote that writ of habeas corpus to get this kid out of jail because he was doing
[03:01.380 --> 03:08.140]  what the Republic of Texas was telling him to do then and are telling him to do now.
[03:09.340 --> 03:11.380]  I just met Bonnie the other day.
[03:11.380 --> 03:14.220]  She was a David Straits wife.
[03:14.940 --> 03:15.900]  She married him.
[03:16.060 --> 03:16.580]  Was.
[03:17.540 --> 03:19.260]  Well, I don't know if she still is or not.
[03:19.260 --> 03:20.180]  I think she did.
[03:20.180 --> 03:23.340]  I, she didn't, I didn't, I didn't talk to her.
[03:23.340 --> 03:30.940]  She was, she didn't really want to talk to me because what happened was precisely
[03:31.220 --> 03:32.660]  what I said was happened.
[03:32.700 --> 03:33.300]  Oh no.
[03:33.300 --> 03:34.420]  And that's embarrassing.
[03:35.380 --> 03:40.260]  Somebody ends up with such painful results and therefore you're going to say, I told
[03:40.260 --> 03:40.660]  you so.
[03:41.020 --> 03:42.780]  She took a gun in the courthouse.
[03:42.980 --> 03:47.220]  My mistake was going, saw it, realized it was there, headed out to get rid of it.
[03:47.820 --> 03:48.900]  They stopped her and found it.
[03:51.020 --> 03:51.300]  Okay.
[03:51.340 --> 03:57.620]  All she had to do was say, yeah, I screwed up, uh, whatever you have to do.
[03:58.220 --> 03:59.620]  Yeah, I'm so sorry.
[03:59.780 --> 04:00.620]  It was an accident.
[04:00.620 --> 04:01.860]  I'm putting it back right now.
[04:02.820 --> 04:05.300]  I got a guy in, uh, Arizona.
[04:06.220 --> 04:07.100]  He called me out there.
[04:07.820 --> 04:11.620]  He, uh, was selling flags on the side of the road.
[04:12.580 --> 04:15.660]  He had this trailer and he set up all these flags and he did that pretty
[04:15.660 --> 04:18.900]  regular and the police comes, topped him, told him he can't do that.
[04:18.900 --> 04:22.900]  And they gave him a ticket and he had Patriot plates on.
[04:23.460 --> 04:27.940]  And when they stopped him, he's telling them they don't have any jurisdiction.
[04:28.300 --> 04:29.980]  He's not a citizen.
[04:30.340 --> 04:33.340]  Uh, talking about his,
[04:33.460 --> 04:38.420]  let's see the living man on the land and the bird was not the straw man and all
[04:38.420 --> 04:38.660]  that.
[04:38.660 --> 04:38.860]  Yeah.
[04:39.340 --> 04:40.900]  They hammered him big time.
[04:40.900 --> 04:42.260]  Ask him if he was armed.
[04:42.260 --> 04:48.740]  And he said, no, but he had a pistol in the floorboard or the driver's side taken
[04:48.740 --> 04:54.700]  apart, even the passenger side, but they were PO'd at him and they charged him
[04:54.700 --> 04:58.220]  with, uh, not telling them he was armed.
[04:59.620 --> 05:03.100]  Felony and two felonies and two misdemeanors.
[05:04.140 --> 05:06.980]  He got this jackass.
[05:07.860 --> 05:09.340]  Can I say jackass on the air?
[05:11.380 --> 05:12.660]  This one actually deserves it.
[05:15.100 --> 05:22.980]  Had charged this guy $11,000 to write these idiotic motions and pleadings and
[05:22.980 --> 05:24.500]  all he means to do.
[05:25.460 --> 05:30.060]  So this was one of those, uh, Patriot mythology people that was trying to quote
[05:30.060 --> 05:30.500]  help.
[05:31.260 --> 05:32.500]  Oh, it was nuts.
[05:32.900 --> 05:34.300]  I'm reading these documents.
[05:34.300 --> 05:37.700]  They were absolutely insane word salad.
[05:38.580 --> 05:41.220]  He charged him $11,000.
[05:42.940 --> 05:47.300]  Now, the reason I said all this is I went to Arnold and I said, Arnold, this
[05:47.620 --> 05:50.900]  Patriot stuff, is that the hill you want to die on?
[05:51.860 --> 05:55.020]  Is that what you want to your goal in life?
[05:55.740 --> 05:59.380]  He said, no, I want to proselytize for the Catholic church.
[06:01.260 --> 06:03.300]  Oh, so this is not a big deal for you.
[06:04.100 --> 06:10.220]  Well, no, just call the prosecutor and tell him, look, I talked to these guys.
[06:10.220 --> 06:11.460]  They told me all this stuff.
[06:11.660 --> 06:13.620]  It all turned out to be nonsense.
[06:14.500 --> 06:15.700]  I believed all of it.
[06:15.740 --> 06:16.780]  It's all a bunch of crap.
[06:17.660 --> 06:21.220]  Is there something we can do just to make this go away?
[06:21.220 --> 06:26.500]  I'll always send all my BS documents and I apologize for the problem I gave you.
[06:27.220 --> 06:32.300]  And he said, well, you've got a $500 fail up.
[06:33.220 --> 06:41.420]  If you will forgo that $500 for fine and court costs, uh, we'll just charge you
[06:41.420 --> 06:43.820]  with a classy misdemeanor and drop everything else.
[06:43.820 --> 06:44.660]  Was that hard?
[06:46.660 --> 06:48.580]  And this is after a couple of years.
[06:50.060 --> 06:51.620]  I want to choke these guys.
[06:53.060 --> 06:53.500]  Yeah.
[06:53.500 --> 06:54.740]  I don't know who helped.
[06:54.740 --> 07:00.900]  There's a guy in Henderson County, Texas, and he has been locked up for years.
[07:00.940 --> 07:06.500]  He's a grandfather, uh, of a, it was a really horrible situation.
[07:07.220 --> 07:11.300]  Um, there was a couple lost their baby in the night.
[07:11.460 --> 07:14.180]  Couple lost their baby in the night.
[07:14.300 --> 07:19.940]  The baby fell asleep in the crib and didn't wake up and they were beside themselves.
[07:20.580 --> 07:22.500]  Next thing you know, the sheriff is there.
[07:22.500 --> 07:29.580]  They called the sheriff and then sheriff called CPS and somehow for some reason,
[07:30.500 --> 07:38.900]  not only did all of their other children get taken away, but by CPS, but somehow
[07:38.900 --> 07:41.540]  they got charged with the murder of their baby.
[07:43.220 --> 07:43.500]  Okay.
[07:43.500 --> 07:43.980]  Hold on.
[07:45.500 --> 07:52.580]  The father, uh, the, I'm sorry, the grandfather ended up in jail.
[07:52.700 --> 07:56.460]  And I finally, it took a lot, but I finally got to where I
[07:56.460 --> 07:58.140]  could see some of what he filed.
[07:58.580 --> 08:00.660]  It was insane.
[08:01.500 --> 08:02.140]  Yes.
[08:02.540 --> 08:04.820]  And he did some really stupid things.
[08:05.820 --> 08:10.100]  He apparently went around to judges houses and sheriff's houses and
[08:10.100 --> 08:14.300]  prosecutors houses and nailed things to their door like he was Martin Luther.
[08:15.020 --> 08:22.340]  And he kept putting up signs and, and, uh, you, you mentioned insane word salad.
[08:22.940 --> 08:24.540]  That's what his filings looked like.
[08:24.820 --> 08:26.700]  It was complete gibberish.
[08:27.380 --> 08:32.180]  All this living man on the land, all this, it was, it was garbage.
[08:32.420 --> 08:37.380]  And obviously he, he looked like he had lost touch with reality.
[08:38.860 --> 08:39.740]  It was dangerous.
[08:39.740 --> 08:43.620]  Whoever helped him to file and come up with all of that garbage.
[08:43.980 --> 08:50.820]  In this particular, in this particular case, what happened was the child was
[08:50.860 --> 08:57.100]  very ill and they tried to get an appointment with the doctor and the
[08:57.100 --> 09:01.380]  doctor couldn't get him on appointment until a day or two later.
[09:02.500 --> 09:06.580]  They put this child on a blanket on the floor and took a crib and turned it
[09:06.580 --> 09:12.220]  upside down over the baby to, to keep the baby from crawling away, but
[09:12.220 --> 09:14.340]  that baby lay there and die.
[09:16.860 --> 09:19.060]  That's why they were so much problem.
[09:20.380 --> 09:22.700]  This, there's no reason for this child to die.
[09:22.740 --> 09:25.700]  All they had to do is take the child to the emergency room.
[09:27.500 --> 09:28.700]  Either they didn't know it.
[09:28.780 --> 09:29.860]  They didn't understand it.
[09:29.860 --> 09:33.660]  It wasn't these people were drug addicts or anything like that.
[09:35.020 --> 09:38.780]  Uh, it's just let that baby die.
[09:39.580 --> 09:46.180]  Uh, when I found out what the real facts were, it's a whole lot worse than that.
[09:46.780 --> 09:51.420]  But now we've got people coming in here telling these guys to do this really
[09:51.420 --> 09:58.100]  crazy stuff when they should be real careful right now.
[09:58.940 --> 10:03.340]  These, okay, these parents made a mistake and maybe they didn't
[10:03.340 --> 10:05.420]  understand how sick the child was.
[10:06.460 --> 10:06.700]  Right.
[10:06.700 --> 10:08.140]  Or didn't know what to do about it.
[10:08.300 --> 10:09.420]  He didn't know what to do.
[10:09.420 --> 10:14.940]  And, and, but they're the parents as people getting in trouble because all
[10:14.940 --> 10:21.020]  the mythology stuff is the part I was aiming at is it's not that they, whether
[10:21.020 --> 10:26.060]  they were good parents or not, it's, it's what happened to the grandfather and
[10:26.060 --> 10:31.660]  grandmother and really everybody, any charges, they got in serious trouble
[10:31.660 --> 10:35.860]  and incarceration for years without there ever being any charges.
[10:37.140 --> 10:37.300]  Yeah.
[10:37.300 --> 10:41.580]  They just went, this guy went absolutely insane on them.
[10:42.940 --> 10:43.580]  Exactly.
[10:44.060 --> 10:52.380]  If they'd have taken a step back and not assumed that these people were evil,
[10:53.060 --> 10:56.860]  horrible people trying to rip these kids away from their parents.
[10:57.180 --> 10:59.300]  It just stepped back and been reasonable.
[10:59.340 --> 11:00.540]  This thing would have went away.
[11:01.500 --> 11:02.340]  I'm sure it would.
[11:03.380 --> 11:06.460]  And that's why, you know, I have people talk to me about that.
[11:06.460 --> 11:10.180]  And that's, that's why I asked Arnold is, is this the ill you want to die on?
[11:11.740 --> 11:14.100]  If it's not, don't do that stuff.
[11:15.060 --> 11:22.340]  If you have a wife and a couple of kids and two cars payments and a mortgage
[11:22.340 --> 11:27.260]  and insurance on the cars and you got to take care of the kids and you get a
[11:27.260 --> 11:29.580]  ticket by one of these jackbooted thugs.
[11:31.460 --> 11:33.020]  Don't do what I do.
[11:35.580 --> 11:36.700]  I could do this.
[11:36.740 --> 11:37.620]  I'm retired.
[11:37.620 --> 11:38.700]  My house is paid for.
[11:38.700 --> 11:39.740]  My car is paid for.
[11:40.020 --> 11:42.180]  I don't owe anybody anything.
[11:42.420 --> 11:44.780]  And I have to fill my contract with life.
[11:44.980 --> 11:46.180]  My kids are grown.
[11:46.780 --> 11:48.380]  They're out taking care of themselves.
[11:48.380 --> 11:49.380]  We've got kids of their own.
[11:49.580 --> 11:50.860]  Nobody needs me.
[11:50.860 --> 11:53.980]  Nobody's depending on me for their livelihood.
[11:55.820 --> 11:59.980]  Don't go out there and risk everything unless it's the ill you want to die on.
[12:00.740 --> 12:02.500]  Bonnie listened to this stuff.
[12:02.500 --> 12:03.500]  She got a divorce.
[12:03.900 --> 12:10.900]  She owned her house before she married this guy, but she did all this patriot
[12:10.900 --> 12:12.940]  stuff and they gave him her house.
[12:13.260 --> 12:14.340]  Thank you very much.
[12:14.940 --> 12:15.820]  What's his name?
[12:16.620 --> 12:17.740]  David straight straight.
[12:18.740 --> 12:24.420]  He made sure she lost everything and then got her sentenced to five years in prison.
[12:26.220 --> 12:26.580]  Yes.
[12:26.860 --> 12:34.340]  I sat in court while a judge is doing everything she can to get Bonnie to give
[12:34.340 --> 12:39.860]  her just a little bit of leeway so she doesn't have to throw her in in jail for
[12:39.860 --> 12:41.500]  30 days for contempt of court.
[12:42.860 --> 12:47.340]  And after it lasted apparently about 30 minutes, but after about 10 minutes, I
[12:47.500 --> 12:52.740]  got up and walked out and there's a whole bunch of people there that asked me to
[12:52.740 --> 12:53.580]  come down there.
[12:54.460 --> 12:57.220]  I got up and walked out and they found me in a restaurant.
[12:57.500 --> 12:58.500]  Why did you leave?
[12:59.180 --> 13:01.180]  Man, I could not sit there through that.
[13:02.340 --> 13:05.540]  This judge is bending over backwards trying to help her.
[13:06.460 --> 13:08.340]  She's just not going to have it.
[13:09.100 --> 13:11.020]  The judge wound up throwing a book at her.
[13:12.460 --> 13:14.540]  That was just 30 days for contempt.
[13:15.380 --> 13:16.780]  It went downhill from there.
[13:16.780 --> 13:22.140]  When they got to sentencing, they threw the book at her again because I'm sure
[13:22.140 --> 13:23.660]  she did that same stuff.
[13:24.260 --> 13:29.620]  She kept on trying to stick to the script and do the David Lester straight stuff
[13:29.620 --> 13:32.260]  and claim a bunch of nonsense.
[13:33.060 --> 13:34.980]  What is the draw?
[13:36.500 --> 13:41.500]  How do they get people to just immerse themselves in this?
[13:42.820 --> 13:43.620]  I don't get it.
[13:44.020 --> 13:50.420]  And it is a major frustration because I've seen so many people armed by it.
[13:50.820 --> 13:55.020]  Hang on, go into our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, we have our radio.
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[16:31.220 --> 16:59.740]  OK, we are back.
[16:59.980 --> 17:06.460]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, and on the break we were talking about what's the
[17:06.460 --> 17:13.380]  draw and Brett saying they know something's wrong.
[17:14.100 --> 17:15.540]  Yeah, that's my theory.
[17:15.540 --> 17:16.660]  That's the basis of it.
[17:18.020 --> 17:25.900]  In our gut, everybody that is noticing something is not right, that's true.
[17:27.260 --> 17:28.700]  There is something that's not right.
[17:30.060 --> 17:37.060]  But then, unfortunately, that leads them to be more that leads us, anybody who is
[17:37.340 --> 17:44.660]  sensitive to noticing something's not right, that leads us to be more vulnerable to
[17:44.660 --> 17:46.740]  the charlatans who come and try to pitch.
[17:47.060 --> 17:48.380]  Oh, here's how they get you.
[17:50.300 --> 17:52.460]  And come up with all these ridiculous things.
[17:52.460 --> 17:55.980]  I'm going to call these guys legal apothecaries.
[17:56.900 --> 18:00.180]  The original meaning of the term apothecary.
[18:00.460 --> 18:01.900]  Is that the snake oil people?
[18:02.460 --> 18:10.820]  Those were the ones who were trying to find a way to turn elements into gold.
[18:12.060 --> 18:16.340]  That was the, what was the bright light?
[18:16.340 --> 18:17.740]  That's what everybody was after.
[18:18.500 --> 18:19.500]  Yeah, alchemy.
[18:20.020 --> 18:25.500]  There's a name for it, but these guys are saying there's something wrong here.
[18:25.500 --> 18:32.540]  And we got this magic bullet here, this trick that everybody's just tricked you.
[18:32.940 --> 18:34.780]  And we figured it out.
[18:36.700 --> 18:37.660]  Well, no, they didn't.
[18:38.580 --> 18:40.020]  They made up some stuff.
[18:41.220 --> 18:42.820]  I think I figured it out.
[18:45.300 --> 18:48.780]  And it's really, really difficult and complex.
[18:48.780 --> 18:58.100]  Citizens in a public, this is not a democracy guys, everybody's
[18:58.100 --> 18:59.700]  treating it like a democracy.
[18:59.700 --> 19:12.060]  This is a Republic and in a Republic, the buck stops here with me and with you.
[19:12.860 --> 19:14.740]  Ooh, but nobody wants to really study.
[19:15.020 --> 19:17.020]  Ooh, but nobody wants to really study.
[19:17.380 --> 19:23.220]  Oh, I went, I, the Republic of Texas had me come in and do a presentation
[19:23.220 --> 19:30.420]  for about 300 people and ask them who here has the skills needed to keep the
[19:30.420 --> 19:34.820]  hospitals open if you replace the government with the one you, you, you've
[19:34.820 --> 19:39.060]  got put together, who can keep the ambulances on the road and the old folks
[19:39.060 --> 19:44.700]  homes open and social security payments being made, who's got the skill for that?
[19:45.740 --> 19:51.340]  Nobody said, look, guys, if you want to fix this problem, all you have to do is
[19:51.340 --> 19:56.620]  take out a piece of paper and write out a criminal complaint, but you don't even
[19:56.620 --> 19:57.300]  have to do that.
[19:57.580 --> 20:03.420]  I've got some forms you can use and then sign your name on the bottom of it as a
[20:03.420 --> 20:12.900]  citizen in a Republic and stand up and be counted and they could not get me out of
[20:13.380 --> 20:14.860]  there fast enough.
[20:16.540 --> 20:19.260]  They had all this magic stuff they could do.
[20:19.580 --> 20:20.940]  This is not hard.
[20:22.180 --> 20:26.700]  I filed this big suit and the court threw it out.
[20:27.900 --> 20:29.100]  Okay, I get it.
[20:29.620 --> 20:34.220]  We got a federal judge here who's handling the workload of three federal
[20:34.220 --> 20:41.500]  judges, Sparks retired, then Yackel said, I got so much workload that I
[20:41.580 --> 20:45.780]  can hear as many cases as possible in a month, but at the end of the month,
[20:45.780 --> 20:47.660]  they'll have a bigger caseload than when it started.
[20:48.060 --> 20:48.740]  I'm out of here.
[20:48.820 --> 20:49.540]  He retired.
[20:50.940 --> 20:55.180]  Now we've got Pittman in there handling the caseload of three judges.
[20:55.580 --> 20:56.900]  There's no way he can handle it.
[20:58.180 --> 20:59.860]  So I get it.
[21:00.100 --> 21:06.140]  They take my 150 page complaint and they don't have, that's a pro se filing.
[21:06.420 --> 21:07.500]  They don't have time to mess with it.
[21:07.500 --> 21:08.580]  They dismiss it with the president.
[21:09.780 --> 21:11.060]  The fifth circuit gets it.
[21:12.380 --> 21:15.500]  They said this case is frivolous, dismissed with prejudice.
[21:16.860 --> 21:18.820]  And I said, is that a fact, Jack?
[21:19.980 --> 21:28.860]  I paid you guys to give me a proper appeal and you failed to properly apply
[21:28.860 --> 21:34.900]  the law to the facts and you failed to show how you applied the law to the
[21:34.900 --> 21:38.860]  facts as you're required to do under federal rules of civil procedure.
[21:38.860 --> 21:40.620]  I believe it's 51.
[21:40.740 --> 21:41.300]  It's required.
[21:42.420 --> 21:44.340]  It is a requirement and I paid for it.
[21:45.820 --> 21:49.820]  You didn't give it to me because you were too busy.
[21:50.140 --> 21:50.740]  Okay.
[21:52.180 --> 21:57.860]  So I filed criminal charges against the three judges of the court of criminal
[21:57.860 --> 22:08.420]  appeals with the federal grand jury in Fort Worth, but I didn't give my cover
[22:08.420 --> 22:10.580]  letter back, if you can imagine that.
[22:10.900 --> 22:14.740]  I put a cover letter on there that asked the foreman to initial this
[22:14.740 --> 22:19.300]  document and send it back to me and please don't sign it because the
[22:19.300 --> 22:24.420]  prosecutor has a rubber stamp with your name on it that he uses to rubber
[22:24.420 --> 22:26.100]  stamp superseding indictments.
[22:26.580 --> 22:29.260]  And I want to make sure the prosecutor doesn't rubber stamp this
[22:29.260 --> 22:30.220]  and send it back to me.
[22:30.940 --> 22:36.060]  Now, Randy, you wouldn't have said that just to goad the prosecutor into doing
[22:36.060 --> 22:40.620]  what he was inclined to do anyway and secret that thing, would you?
[22:40.660 --> 22:43.780]  I was acting in absolute best of faith.
[22:44.180 --> 22:44.540]  All right.
[22:44.580 --> 22:44.820]  Right.
[22:44.820 --> 22:44.980]  Right.
[22:44.980 --> 22:45.380]  Got it.
[22:45.820 --> 22:46.620]  Absolutely.
[22:47.380 --> 22:49.500]  Well, so far I haven't got that letter back.
[22:50.700 --> 22:57.820]  So I have reason to believe, and I do believe that the U S attorney here in
[22:57.820 --> 23:04.420]  Fort Worth and the one in Salt Lake city, you know, interfered with the public mail
[23:05.420 --> 23:12.140]  and diverted my document from the person or office it was directed to.
[23:13.420 --> 23:20.620]  In Texas, that would be 3711 in the fed, uh, interfered with the public mail.
[23:20.620 --> 23:25.180]  I think it's 18 U S code 1341, something like that.
[23:26.580 --> 23:27.980]  Did I actually remember that right?
[23:28.660 --> 23:29.780]  Well, that's the one I remember.
[23:30.340 --> 23:31.060]  Holy mackerel.
[23:31.820 --> 23:32.140]  Okay.
[23:32.220 --> 23:40.620]  So I'm going to file criminal charges against the U S attorney in Fort
[23:40.620 --> 23:44.420]  Worth and Utah with Pam Bondi.
[23:46.140 --> 23:50.940]  DC where I'm going to file it with the grand jury in DC.
[23:52.580 --> 24:00.900]  And when I don't get those cover letters back, I'm going to assume that Pam Bondi
[24:00.900 --> 24:07.020]  as respond yet superior for all of the U S attorneys in the country secreted
[24:07.020 --> 24:09.420]  my complaints from the grand jury and.
[24:10.060 --> 24:13.380]  Interrupted the U S mail or interfered with the U S mail.
[24:14.460 --> 24:24.660]  And I'm going to sue president as respond yet superior to see if I
[24:24.660 --> 24:25.980]  can't get this in front of them.
[24:25.980 --> 24:27.860]  What I'm going to ask them to do.
[24:28.180 --> 24:34.700]  I made the argument that, uh, grand juries are not a part of the executive.
[24:34.700 --> 24:40.580]  Neither are they a part of the judicial certainly aren't a part of the
[24:41.060 --> 24:42.900]  executive, the, uh, legislative.
[24:44.180 --> 24:49.980]  Like Scalia said in Montgomery state, it is essentially a fourth branch of government.
[24:50.740 --> 24:50.900]  Yeah.
[24:50.900 --> 24:51.580]  Quote him.
[24:52.540 --> 24:56.900]  Oh, I do have him extensively quoted that small quote that everybody said.
[24:57.100 --> 25:04.180]  That everybody cites, uh, if you look that up, then there's a whole section
[25:04.180 --> 25:07.220]  there that explains this in far more detail.
[25:08.300 --> 25:09.780]  Grand jury is separate.
[25:10.140 --> 25:13.980]  They can investigate into anything they want to, they could investigate
[25:13.980 --> 25:18.100]  into something that is that where there's no crime being committed.
[25:18.100 --> 25:20.940]  They just want to see if one could have been committed.
[25:20.940 --> 25:22.060]  They do what they want to.
[25:22.580 --> 25:29.620]  So I communicated with that branch of government and these U S attorneys
[25:30.420 --> 25:38.740]  exercise the judicial discretion by dismissing my, by fine, making a finding
[25:38.740 --> 25:44.940]  of no probable cause on my complaints, but then they're not judicial officers.
[25:44.940 --> 25:51.460]  And even if they were, they would not have authority to usurp a grand jury.
[25:51.460 --> 25:56.540]  And I'm going to, I'm going to argue, I'm going to argue there, stepped over
[25:56.540 --> 26:00.860]  into the grand jury foreman's position or into the magistrate's position or both.
[26:01.420 --> 26:06.700]  So I'm going to argue to the president that if you want to find out all the bad
[26:06.700 --> 26:12.980]  stuff that's going on, you don't just need Doge need us.
[26:13.780 --> 26:19.020]  This is a Republic and your citizens are.
[26:19.060 --> 26:24.900]  The ones that stand at the head of this government and we know what's going on.
[26:25.860 --> 26:31.700]  If somebody's pulling some crapola, one of your citizens knows.
[26:32.500 --> 26:37.460]  So if you open that grand door to the grand jury, to the public and get
[26:37.460 --> 26:43.100]  the U S attorney out of the way, you'll get all the tips you can keep up with.
[26:43.820 --> 26:46.340]  You'll get all the tips you can keep up with.
[26:48.140 --> 26:48.860]  Hang on.
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[30:27.020 --> 30:42.140]  OK, we are back.
[30:42.140 --> 30:45.100]  Randy Calton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio,
[30:45.660 --> 30:48.500]  and we're going to Tina in California.
[30:48.500 --> 30:52.420]  Tina, I understand you have some good news for us.
[30:53.420 --> 30:55.420]  I do.
[30:55.420 --> 30:57.260]  Let me just use the Bluetooth,
[30:57.260 --> 30:59.940]  so you can't get at me for doing the Bluetooth thing.
[30:59.940 --> 31:02.260]  I can hear you sounding pretty good.
[31:05.540 --> 31:10.660]  I have the biggest win that I could have ever imagined.
[31:10.660 --> 31:12.660]  Woohoo!
[31:12.660 --> 31:14.660]  Yeah.
[31:14.660 --> 31:22.180]  In relation to the consignment store where they file the bankruptcy,
[31:23.140 --> 31:28.980]  and filed an adversary proceeding, one for four and a half years,
[31:29.780 --> 31:34.980]  and got a judgment with three others that joined in with me.
[31:36.020 --> 31:39.300]  And then eight days later, they filed a Chapter 13,
[31:40.500 --> 31:43.860]  and they got a confirmed plan and said,
[31:44.740 --> 31:48.820]  basically begged the court for protection from these aggressive creditors.
[31:49.380 --> 31:50.980]  Oh, my God, we were after her.
[31:51.540 --> 31:54.980]  And they were trying their best to pay everyone.
[31:55.780 --> 31:57.380]  And I was like, yeah, really?
[31:57.380 --> 32:00.580]  Is that why they filed Chapter 7 to dismiss all their debt?
[32:00.580 --> 32:03.300]  Because they were desperate to pay everyone, probably.
[32:08.020 --> 32:11.300]  How dare you bring logic and truth into the middle of their story.
[32:12.260 --> 32:17.300]  I really wanted to pay everyone.
[32:17.300 --> 32:19.300]  You could just file a Chapter 13 to pay them,
[32:19.300 --> 32:21.220]  not a Chapter 7 to dismiss it all.
[32:21.220 --> 32:22.580]  But that's irrelevant.
[32:22.580 --> 32:26.340]  We're just terrible people for going after our money.
[32:27.540 --> 32:31.940]  They persuaded the judge that they were trying their best,
[32:31.940 --> 32:37.300]  even though he pointed out that the previous judge said they broke all the laws,
[32:37.300 --> 32:39.380]  they didn't follow any of the court orders,
[32:39.380 --> 32:44.260]  they did all this, and he gave us a judgment based on fraud,
[32:44.260 --> 32:45.860]  which is never dischargable.
[32:46.580 --> 32:52.820]  So he got the chance and confirmed that Chapter 13,
[32:52.820 --> 32:55.220]  we did get all their expenses reduced,
[32:55.220 --> 32:59.300]  because we targeted most of them because they were highly inflated.
[33:00.500 --> 33:05.140]  And they had a plan where they had paid for four months, $209 a month,
[33:05.780 --> 33:09.540]  and it went up to like $700 something, then it went up to $1,200,
[33:09.540 --> 33:13.300]  and then $1,800 after so many months for five years.
[33:15.780 --> 33:24.180]  So I filed a motion to dismiss the, you know, the wife,
[33:24.180 --> 33:28.740]  because she had been convicted of embezzlement
[33:28.740 --> 33:31.780]  and was a convicted felon of financial fraud.
[33:32.580 --> 33:38.420]  The judge denied my motion and said they're doing their best.
[33:39.460 --> 33:43.540]  So I filed an appeal to the bankruptcy court,
[33:43.540 --> 33:47.220]  and while that was going through,
[33:47.220 --> 33:50.580]  because it took a while because I filed for informal purpose,
[33:51.620 --> 33:55.620]  they dismissed their own bankruptcy,
[33:55.620 --> 33:58.660]  voluntarily dismissing their plans,
[33:59.220 --> 34:04.900]  which coincidentally was right at the time they were supposed to pay $1,200 or so a month
[34:06.500 --> 34:08.660]  into the trustee's office.
[34:10.740 --> 34:12.100]  Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
[34:12.580 --> 34:13.780]  No, it's just a coincidence.
[34:13.780 --> 34:14.740]  I'm sure it was.
[34:14.740 --> 34:18.020]  I'm absolutely sure, yes, and pigs might fly.
[34:19.380 --> 34:22.500]  But I contacted the appeal court and said,
[34:22.500 --> 34:25.540]  I think my appeal might be moot based on this,
[34:26.180 --> 34:28.180]  and I don't want to waste the court's time.
[34:28.180 --> 34:32.180]  So would I just, you know, what would you do here?
[34:32.180 --> 34:35.300]  And so I sent them a copy of the dismissal.
[34:35.300 --> 34:37.300]  So they dismissed my appeal,
[34:37.300 --> 34:39.540]  stating that there was nothing wrong with the appeal.
[34:39.540 --> 34:40.260]  It was just moot.
[34:41.140 --> 34:45.460]  And then they sent it down to the district court anyway in the meantime.
[34:45.460 --> 34:49.780]  But so after that, I was a little peeled
[34:50.980 --> 34:54.020]  because I figured this is just another excuse
[34:54.020 --> 34:56.580]  for them to do what they've been doing forever.
[34:56.580 --> 34:58.740]  File a bankruptcy, dismiss it.
[34:58.740 --> 35:01.780]  File another bankruptcy if you must dismiss it.
[35:01.780 --> 35:02.660]  It was a patent.
[35:03.940 --> 35:10.260]  So I filed a motion to bar them from any future bankruptcies
[35:11.220 --> 35:12.740]  because I knew what was coming.
[35:12.740 --> 35:14.500]  Well, I thought I knew what was coming.
[35:14.500 --> 35:18.260]  I was just anticipating and thinking, you know, well,
[35:18.820 --> 35:22.420]  not going to go anywhere really, but I might get 180 days or three years.
[35:23.140 --> 35:28.100]  And their attorney chimed back in and said,
[35:28.100 --> 35:31.220]  oh, this should be dismissed its entirety.
[35:31.220 --> 35:33.060]  It's basically useless.
[35:33.060 --> 35:38.580]  And they haven't cited anything that gives the court permission to bar them.
[35:38.580 --> 35:41.220]  And they haven't cited this and they haven't got a case law.
[35:41.220 --> 35:45.380]  And they just basically, they said they're disgruntled creditors.
[35:46.420 --> 35:51.060]  And he didn't send me a courtesy copy of this response,
[35:51.060 --> 35:52.580]  which is typical for him.
[35:52.580 --> 35:55.220]  He only sends it by mail, which takes forever.
[35:56.100 --> 36:00.020]  And so I thought, but I'd happened to check PESA
[36:00.020 --> 36:04.100]  and saw that he'd filed it as usual on a Friday afternoon.
[36:04.100 --> 36:07.060]  So it doesn't get to me until the following Tuesday or Wednesday.
[36:07.860 --> 36:14.580]  So I hammered out a reply and said he should basically spend more time
[36:14.580 --> 36:18.500]  telling the court why his clients dismissed their bankruptcy
[36:18.500 --> 36:24.580]  after begging the court for a protection and why they would favor
[36:25.380 --> 36:29.380]  one creditor over another and pay them outside of the bankruptcy
[36:29.380 --> 36:32.340]  without court permission and why they had it over.
[36:32.340 --> 36:35.060]  Wow. Way to go, Tina.
[36:35.060 --> 36:36.260]  All excellent questions.
[36:37.620 --> 36:41.380]  Yeah. So I said, you know, he should stop being so dismissive
[36:41.380 --> 36:43.780]  and derisive to the first day creditors.
[36:44.580 --> 36:47.540]  And so he said, I didn't cite any case law.
[36:47.540 --> 36:48.580]  So here's the case law.
[36:49.220 --> 36:52.660]  The courts have inherent powers and this attorney should know that.
[36:53.220 --> 36:57.860]  And he should know that I'd cited all the conditions for doing this.
[36:58.420 --> 37:01.220]  But I kind of like went back at him.
[37:02.020 --> 37:07.700]  So we had the hearings morning and I thought at the very best
[37:07.700 --> 37:09.540]  I was going to get a five-year bar.
[37:09.540 --> 37:11.300]  And that was stretching it.
[37:11.300 --> 37:15.140]  Ten years was the most I could find in case law and I could only find one.
[37:15.140 --> 37:18.900]  But then I'm not on, you know, LexisNexis or the others.
[37:18.900 --> 37:26.500]  He gave us, you know, a lifetime, basically, you know, a ban, total ban
[37:26.500 --> 37:28.340]  from them ever filing bankruptcy again.
[37:29.860 --> 37:33.860]  Oh, whoa, Tina.
[37:33.860 --> 37:34.740]  That's amazing.
[37:37.140 --> 37:38.500]  You killed their pattern.
[37:40.260 --> 37:42.180]  They can't continue with the fraud.
[37:43.140 --> 37:43.640]  Wow.
[37:44.660 --> 37:47.140]  That will be case law.
[37:47.140 --> 37:48.340]  Others will cite.
[37:50.340 --> 37:53.700]  I was pretty sure I asked the sanctions against them
[37:53.700 --> 37:55.940]  because the judge had said he'd reserved that.
[37:55.940 --> 38:00.100]  I asked for sanctions like incarceration, which he said was possible.
[38:00.100 --> 38:05.300]  I asked for sanctions against the attorney for putting them in this bankruptcy
[38:05.300 --> 38:09.460]  when they really weren't allowed to be in it because they hadn't,
[38:09.460 --> 38:12.500]  you know, hadn't been out of a bankruptcy for 180 days.
[38:12.500 --> 38:16.820]  They literally filed Chapter 13 eight days after they got the judgment
[38:16.820 --> 38:18.580]  and dismissal from Chapter 7.
[38:18.580 --> 38:22.340]  But he denied that and he said, well, the attorneys are supposed to be aggressive.
[38:22.340 --> 38:24.980]  And he denied the sanctions, which I figured.
[38:24.980 --> 38:28.820]  But I thought I'd ask for it anyway because he put it in his previous order
[38:28.820 --> 38:32.020]  that he was reserving the jurisdiction.
[38:32.660 --> 38:38.260]  But I'd asked for a bar for 10 years or as the law allows.
[38:38.980 --> 38:42.100]  And when I put in that the courts have inherent powers, he read everything.
[38:42.100 --> 38:44.260]  He put in most all of my wordings.
[38:44.820 --> 38:49.380]  And I said, well, you know, because the attorney was just dismissive of my writing.
[38:49.380 --> 38:52.900]  I said, well, as the, you know, precedent says,
[38:52.900 --> 38:56.180]  this case law that says, you know, per se,
[38:56.180 --> 39:00.420]  trainings are supposed to be liberally, you know, construed.
[39:00.420 --> 39:04.340]  And I respect the request that the judge, you know, look at this.
[39:04.420 --> 39:09.460]  And he even put another one in his tentative ruling that I hadn't seen.
[39:10.260 --> 39:12.660]  So he gave them a permanent bar.
[39:12.660 --> 39:16.100]  I'm just absolutely blown away doing the happy dance.
[39:16.820 --> 39:19.220]  Pro se from hell beat another attorney.
[39:19.220 --> 39:19.720]  Yes.
[39:24.100 --> 39:25.460]  A permanent bar.
[39:25.460 --> 39:26.500]  I've never seen this.
[39:27.780 --> 39:28.420]  Wow.
[39:28.420 --> 39:29.060]  I'm excited.
[39:29.060 --> 39:30.420]  I don't want you after me.
[39:30.420 --> 39:38.340]  Whoever said that I accused you of being churlish, that was just propaganda.
[39:38.340 --> 39:44.980]  Oh, but you guys, you guys taught me everything I know.
[39:44.980 --> 39:51.380]  I mean, I did a lot of research, but I'm just, you know, I just asked for something
[39:52.020 --> 39:55.380]  because I, you know, I mean, these guys are just criminals.
[39:55.940 --> 40:00.420]  And after they said that after six months of the bankruptcy proceeding,
[40:00.420 --> 40:03.220]  they were able to pay $1,200 into the plan.
[40:05.460 --> 40:09.620]  You know, the wife who's in the criminal restitution part,
[40:10.340 --> 40:14.100]  she said, oh, she can only afford $250 a month.
[40:14.100 --> 40:14.900]  Well, wait a minute.
[40:14.900 --> 40:20.260]  If both of you could afford $1,200 after six months, you should be able to afford $600.
[40:20.260 --> 40:22.180]  So why can you only do $250?
[40:23.140 --> 40:28.100]  And my hours have been reduced because I have to do my community service.
[40:28.100 --> 40:30.260]  No, you're supposed to do that at the weekends at night,
[40:30.260 --> 40:32.340]  not reduce your hours of work so you can do it.
[40:33.300 --> 40:37.620]  You don't want me up the cliff because I'm, you know, I've got a good thing here.
[40:37.620 --> 40:39.540]  You're, you're on a roll here.
[40:43.540 --> 40:44.180]  Okay.
[40:44.180 --> 40:49.940]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Real Raw Radio on this.
[40:50.260 --> 40:54.420]  And I'll give the, the date out next time, but give us a call.
[40:54.420 --> 40:57.380]  512-646-1984.
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[43:13.540 --> 43:19.540]  If you did not have any problem, where are you going to look for one?
[43:19.540 --> 43:25.540]  If you could not wait any bout too long, would your purpose as be done?
[43:25.540 --> 43:31.540]  Such a symptom and a soldier, a warrior of love, scaffolding to keep the peace.
[43:31.540 --> 43:39.540]  All they're taking is a misunderstanding, and somebody calls the police, watching the spots go.
[43:42.740 --> 43:46.740]  Watching the spots go.
[43:48.740 --> 43:50.740]  Watching the spots go.
[43:54.740 --> 43:58.740]  Watching the spots go.
[44:00.740 --> 44:06.740]  The friction isn't addiction, the hard work can leave you cold as nails.
[44:06.900 --> 44:12.900]  Hostility to tranquility, heavy loads of tape and unscathed.
[44:14.900 --> 44:16.580]  Okay, we are back.
[44:16.580 --> 44:18.900]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[44:20.100 --> 44:25.300]  And we're talking to Tina in California, and she is kicking behind.
[44:26.980 --> 44:29.220]  Okay, Tina, where from here?
[44:29.860 --> 44:33.860]  Well, now we just sit back.
[44:33.860 --> 44:39.860]  I sent the copy of the order, the tentative order, the court said they will write up the order.
[44:39.860 --> 44:45.860]  Because, of course, they don't want her attorney to do it, because he'll add extra cost to him,
[44:45.860 --> 44:47.860]  and he's not going to get paid for that.
[44:47.860 --> 44:53.860]  And he actually made mention, the judge, and I've sent you all the papers, that it was interesting that
[44:54.260 --> 45:00.980]  they stayed in the bankruptcy long enough to pay the attorney without paying the creditor's assent.
[45:02.100 --> 45:09.300]  So it was all about bad faith, everything I put in there, he read everything, and the other party
[45:09.300 --> 45:14.260]  that was part of it, he didn't write anything, he's just part of it, he called his attorney friends
[45:14.260 --> 45:22.580]  and they said they didn't know any attorney who's ever got a permanent bar, and never had a pro se
[45:22.580 --> 45:29.940]  do this. And now, of course, they can appeal that, the judge said, if they need to file a
[45:29.940 --> 45:42.980]  bankruptcy in the future, but they would have to come up with some amazing reasons and case law
[45:42.980 --> 45:50.820]  and everything to be able to do that, because he just cited that they, I mean, because I said to
[45:50.820 --> 45:55.140]  him, I said, they've basically done a slap in the face to the judge. They begged you for it,
[45:55.140 --> 46:00.180]  you gave them a chance, and they've slapped you in the face by dismissing it after six months,
[46:01.220 --> 46:07.140]  without reasoning, without asking the court to change their plan, because they've run into other
[46:07.140 --> 46:15.460]  difficulties. So yeah, this is my one big victory out of many failures, but I'm taking it.
[46:16.340 --> 46:19.140]  Oh, yeah. Wonderful. Wonderful.
[46:20.420 --> 46:25.620]  So now they just, they can't, the predation department can go ahead with their collections.
[46:25.620 --> 46:31.940]  I've had three checks so far from their criminal restitution, small, but hey, I'll take it. And
[46:31.940 --> 46:37.380]  they don't have to worry about them filing a bankruptcy to stop their criminal restitution
[46:37.460 --> 46:47.140]  collection. So that part is good. And now I have to figure out how to get a copy of the,
[46:49.540 --> 46:56.660]  forget what the name is, it's just gone out of my mind. I'm going to try to attach her wages,
[46:57.380 --> 47:03.540]  and the other guy is trying to attach the husband's wages, but he's having a very difficult
[47:03.540 --> 47:10.100]  time. So I've got to figure out if someone can show me, you know, how to get that stuff done
[47:10.100 --> 47:15.860]  without having to pay what someone said, oh, well, I can do it for $500 plus expenses. Yeah, right.
[47:16.820 --> 47:20.740]  I don't have that kind of money, so I'll figure that myself eventually.
[47:22.100 --> 47:28.820]  But it's just the fact that I've thrown a spanner in the works. They can't now file another
[47:28.820 --> 47:35.540]  bankruptcy unless they come up with incredible reasons. And if anyone wants, you know, to see
[47:35.540 --> 47:40.900]  the papers, I'm happy to send it. I've sent it to you too. They're not perfect. And as the judge
[47:40.900 --> 47:48.180]  said, you know, you put this in, it's not quite right, but he did take note of, you know, all the
[47:48.180 --> 47:53.620]  facts. And I'm sure he was pissed off that he gave them that chance and they threw it away.
[47:53.620 --> 47:57.940]  Good. Don't piss off the judge.
[47:59.780 --> 48:04.900]  No, because, you know, he literally said they're trying their best. I can see that they're really
[48:04.900 --> 48:12.100]  trying. And then they just dismissed it. It's like, really? They did that to the judge.
[48:13.140 --> 48:19.220]  Voluntarily dismissed their own protection from their creditors that they said were going to
[48:19.220 --> 48:21.860]  harass them and, you know, take them to the penance.
[48:24.500 --> 48:26.420]  Why did they dismiss it to them?
[48:27.620 --> 48:32.900]  Well, I have a theory. I don't know for sure, but there's a couple of things. One,
[48:33.860 --> 48:38.660]  they either lied to the court about being able to pay these things and they just wanted to get
[48:38.660 --> 48:47.140]  rid of the IRS debt, you know, at a reduced rate. And then they have absolutely said in many emails,
[48:47.140 --> 48:53.700]  many conversations, they will not pay Tina a dime or Colleen, and they absolutely don't want
[48:53.700 --> 48:57.940]  to pay. Well, they've already paid me money that they don't know through the criminal restitution,
[48:58.660 --> 49:04.020]  but they did not want to pay us who fought them for four and a half years.
[49:04.740 --> 49:14.100]  And they also, I think, tax time is coming up. And for 12 years prior to this, the first bankruptcy,
[49:14.100 --> 49:19.220]  they never filed a tax return for their business or themselves. And they signed a
[49:19.220 --> 49:24.340]  declaration saying they didn't. But then during COVID, they filed one return so that they could
[49:24.340 --> 49:32.420]  get a refund, the COVID refund. I'm thinking she might be getting a refund. And if they were in
[49:32.420 --> 49:37.060]  the bankruptcy, that refund would be part of the bankruptcy and would go to the trustee.
[49:37.700 --> 49:42.820]  With them being out of the bankruptcy, they can get it, spend it, and not give it to restitution,
[49:42.820 --> 49:46.580]  which they should be doing. That's a theory, I don't know if it's true.
[49:46.580 --> 49:54.660]  Maybe something to look at. They want to give notice to the court
[49:57.300 --> 49:59.940]  of why you think they dropped their bankruptcy.
[50:01.780 --> 50:07.060]  Well, the judge said they didn't give any reasoning of why. They didn't ask for,
[50:08.020 --> 50:12.500]  you know, a reduction in their payments based on something that came up.
[50:12.500 --> 50:16.900]  They just did nothing. They just dismissed it. They didn't. And they could have asked for
[50:16.900 --> 50:21.780]  more protection through the bankruptcy court. And they didn't. They just said,
[50:21.780 --> 50:27.300]  we're going to find another way to pay the credit test. And so, and she's reduced her hours so she
[50:27.300 --> 50:37.620]  could. Did we lose you, Tina? Sounds like you got cut off, Tina.
[50:43.300 --> 50:49.300]  Okay. If you have more for us, if you can hear us, call us back.
[50:50.580 --> 50:54.580]  We're going to now we're going to go to Chris in Colorado. Hello, Chris.
[50:54.580 --> 51:01.540]  Hello, gentlemen. What do you have for us today?
[51:03.220 --> 51:11.700]  Well, go Tina. That's awesome. Persistence, persistence, persistence. Wow.
[51:13.460 --> 51:17.060]  I may call in tomorrow. You guys going to be around? I just was kind of checking. I have a
[51:17.060 --> 51:23.220]  question about setting a judge up, but I don't know how complex this question is going to be.
[51:24.100 --> 51:28.260]  We've got an hour. You're the only caller left on the board, so we've got time.
[51:29.300 --> 51:36.500]  Okay. All right. So I filed my- Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I'm going to bring Tina in.
[51:36.500 --> 51:39.460]  She dropped off and she just called back. Yeah.
[51:40.500 --> 51:45.620]  Hello, Ms. Tina. Hey, so I don't know why it dropped. But anyway, I wanted you to go
[51:45.620 --> 51:51.940]  on to other callers, but I just wanted to give people a little encouragement that it's taken
[51:51.940 --> 51:58.100]  five years of my time, five years of my life, but it's worth it to see these people suffer
[51:58.100 --> 52:04.500]  and be able to pay us forever. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You spent
[52:04.500 --> 52:10.980]  five years of your life in order to make these people suffer. You know how horrible that sounds?
[52:11.940 --> 52:12.900]  I don't care.
[52:18.740 --> 52:21.220]  That sounds downright churlish.
[52:24.740 --> 52:33.220]  But the people who are passionate for justice will find something about that that resonates.
[52:33.780 --> 52:39.780]  You didn't just win in court. You won in court in California.
[52:41.700 --> 52:45.540]  As I was about to say- People call in and say,
[52:45.540 --> 52:53.220]  oh, my county is the most corrupt county in the nation. And now I say, if it's not California,
[52:53.220 --> 53:00.420]  it ain't. And you won in California. That's quite an achievement.
[53:06.340 --> 53:07.780]  Are you still there? Did we lose you?
[53:11.700 --> 53:13.140]  Looks like she dropped off again.
[53:15.220 --> 53:17.620]  Oh, wait. Can you hear me?
[53:18.500 --> 53:20.580]  Somehow you got unmuted. There you are.
[53:21.460 --> 53:26.580]  Oh, there you go. I just wanted to thank you for all your encouragement, all your support,
[53:26.580 --> 53:31.460]  and all the listeners that call in. You know, people have emailed me,
[53:31.460 --> 53:39.140]  technically supporting me. And it really makes a difference to just keep going and doing this.
[53:39.780 --> 53:42.740]  One success out of ten failures is great.
[53:44.980 --> 53:48.660]  So when are you going to start being a regular co-host on our show?
[53:52.340 --> 53:54.100]  When I've finished all my litigation.
[53:56.020 --> 54:00.980]  But I'm not as good as you and Brett. I could never be as good as you guys.
[54:00.980 --> 54:08.900]  I swear to God. I mean, I listen to you almost every week and I just don't match up to what
[54:08.900 --> 54:15.220]  you guys do. I just don't. But someone asked me once, how do you know all this stuff?
[54:16.580 --> 54:19.860]  And I told them you guys taught me.
[54:22.980 --> 54:29.620]  You asked me hard questions and I had to think about the answers and it helped me figure all
[54:29.620 --> 54:37.460]  this stuff out. So if you come on the show and start helping people with their issues,
[54:37.460 --> 54:44.100]  you'll get much better very quickly. Well, I'll keep working on it, but I really
[54:44.100 --> 54:49.620]  appreciate everything you've taught me over these years and all the support I've had from
[54:49.620 --> 54:55.620]  everybody who calls in. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for being here, Tina. You have been
[54:55.620 --> 55:01.540]  a great asset to this show. Okay. We've got 50 seconds. You got 40 seconds.
[55:01.540 --> 55:06.580]  40 seconds? That's a lot of seconds. Yeah.
[55:08.340 --> 55:15.540]  Well, for all your listeners, don't give up. Keep trying. Keep going. One day you'll get
[55:15.540 --> 55:29.300]  a win. It's all worth it. To go in and beat the system, especially as a pro se, this is wonderful.
[55:32.020 --> 55:38.740]  Okay. Thank you very much, Tina. Randy Kelton, Brent Fountain, Rulavar Radio,
[55:38.740 --> 55:45.060]  our call in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:01:11.220 --> 01:01:40.740]  Okay. Howdy, howdy. Randy Kelsey, Bret Fountain, Rule of Law Radio
[01:01:40.740 --> 01:01:49.540]  on this Thursday, the sixth day of March, 2025. And we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:52.980]  Hello, Chris. Hello again.
[01:01:54.900 --> 01:02:04.020]  Okay. What do you have for us today? Well, I'm in a peculiar situation and I think there's a
[01:02:04.020 --> 01:02:08.900]  great opportunity to put the judge and the courts on the dime, so to speak.
[01:02:10.740 --> 01:02:15.940]  So as you guys know, I filed my police suit a few months ago. They wanted me to amend it just to be
[01:02:15.940 --> 01:02:21.460]  more specific. I amended it and they accepted it and we're moving forward with that. We're already
[01:02:21.460 --> 01:02:31.540]  into the discovery. But the second suit was against the DA who went through with this
[01:02:31.540 --> 01:02:38.580]  malicious prosecution. And what's interesting is the same magistrate judge is screening this case
[01:02:38.580 --> 01:02:45.540]  as well, but he's doing some weird stuff. He asked me to amend the complaint just like he did
[01:02:45.540 --> 01:02:52.340]  to the police, but he's basically quoting now case law that states that the DA has prosecutorial
[01:02:52.340 --> 01:02:57.460]  immunity. And he's not going into any specifics. Like I mentioned some pretty significant stuff
[01:02:57.460 --> 01:03:04.340]  about judicial oversight, playing a judicial officer. This is the first appearance nonsense
[01:03:04.980 --> 01:03:10.740]  and that he ignored exculpatory evidence. Now I didn't go into a whole Brady violation thing,
[01:03:10.740 --> 01:03:17.940]  but I'm probably going to do it on the second round. But we have a judge preemptively quoting
[01:03:17.940 --> 01:03:23.140]  case law about prosecutorial immunity without going into depth, without speaking specifically
[01:03:23.140 --> 01:03:32.100]  to the facts of this case. He's just kind of doing a blanket immunity thing. I want to back him into
[01:03:32.100 --> 01:03:40.740]  a corner because he's basically saying that it's okay for us to be called into court without any
[01:03:40.740 --> 01:03:48.580]  probable cause. Well, it's not really a probable cause issue. It's a due process violation. They
[01:03:48.580 --> 01:03:54.980]  never ever looked at any of the actual facts. They just go off of a title and they make up a
[01:03:54.980 --> 01:03:59.140]  plea deal. And when you don't accept the plea deal, then they move you on to an actual preliminary
[01:03:59.140 --> 01:04:06.580]  hearing. I have a recording of the DA actually saying and coercing me to file my motion to
[01:04:06.580 --> 01:04:10.820]  dismiss after the preliminary hearing, which he knew damn well I could file it that day.
[01:04:12.180 --> 01:04:16.980]  So he either doesn't know, didn't know what he was doing, which is very likely, or he was just
[01:04:16.980 --> 01:04:23.540]  trying to, he was giving me legal advice and acting as a judicial officer because he summoned
[01:04:23.540 --> 01:04:28.260]  me to the next court hearing, which was actually a preliminary hearing. So I want to back the judge
[01:04:28.260 --> 01:04:34.980]  into a corner to either set up for an appeal or he's going to have to say something that, yes,
[01:04:34.980 --> 01:04:40.340]  this is legal to do these first appearance centers, which he can't because there's no law
[01:04:40.340 --> 01:04:46.100]  that says he can, that they can. They just made this stuff up. Or he's going to have to back down
[01:04:46.100 --> 01:04:54.100]  and let me move forward. That's my goal. So tell me again what your claim is.
[01:04:54.100 --> 01:05:03.220]  I have malicious prosecution, due process violation of the fourth and 14th. I can't
[01:05:03.220 --> 01:05:08.500]  remember if I got the sixth in there as well. Forcing, what do you call it when you force
[01:05:11.620 --> 01:05:17.460]  to self-incriminate? Oh, being compelled to give evidence against yourself.
[01:05:18.260 --> 01:05:23.620]  Right. I blasted that because that's exactly what he was doing, trying to get me to do a guilty
[01:05:23.620 --> 01:05:30.500]  plea during a plea deal when there's no judicial oversight. And then I only touched upon this, but
[01:05:31.700 --> 01:05:36.500]  he had exculpatory evidence, right? He already had it because if he had looked at the case,
[01:05:36.500 --> 01:05:41.220]  he would have seen, oh my God, we can't be enforcing this. Plus I had a motion to dismiss
[01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:47.700]  with a lot of bunch of evidence, including photos, et cetera, et cetera. And he refused
[01:05:48.500 --> 01:05:57.540]  to consider the exculpatory evidence. Refused. And then he tried to tell me that I could submit
[01:05:57.540 --> 01:06:02.420]  the motion to dismiss, but it'll probably be after you meet with the judge in the preliminary hearing.
[01:06:03.380 --> 01:06:12.500]  And up until that day, there was a case number, but because it's a misdemeanor or a petty offense,
[01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:18.260]  whatever you want to call it, third degree trespass, there was no official charging
[01:06:18.260 --> 01:06:22.980]  instrument. How Colorado criminal law works is in those situations, your official charging
[01:06:22.980 --> 01:06:27.940]  instrument is the summons and complaint, but it's also the initiation of a prosecution.
[01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:37.700]  So the police and the DA are acting as prosecutor in judicial oversight without any actual judge
[01:06:37.700 --> 01:06:44.660]  oversight. That's how the law has kind of been set up. That can't be constitutional.
[01:06:45.620 --> 01:06:54.420]  No. Can't have the prosecutor intruding into the judicial arena.
[01:06:57.460 --> 01:07:04.100]  And there should be a lot of case law on this because our founders recognize that as a problem.
[01:07:04.100 --> 01:07:10.420]  Prosecutors are the ones that have to prosecute. So they feel like they should be the ones to make
[01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:19.700]  these determinations of probable cause. Our founders understood that argument and absolutely
[01:07:19.700 --> 01:07:27.380]  forbade it. Put magistrates in place to keep prosecutors from having that authority,
[01:07:27.380 --> 01:07:30.660]  but prosecutors keep trying to wrestle it back.
[01:07:30.660 --> 01:07:38.180]  Prosecutors keep trying to wrestle it back. Sometimes you have to sting them.
[01:07:38.180 --> 01:07:43.620]  Well, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get, so the judge,
[01:07:43.620 --> 01:07:49.060]  I'm clearly getting up against their soft spot. They seem to be fine with throwing police under
[01:07:49.060 --> 01:07:54.580]  the bus. That's what I'm learning because they're easy scapegoats. But when you get up against their
[01:07:54.580 --> 01:07:59.860]  money, their cash cow, they start to bark a little bit. I don't know if it's just instinctive or
[01:07:59.860 --> 01:08:04.820]  they're literally aware of it. And this is one of those soft spots.
[01:08:04.820 --> 01:08:08.660]  So that's why he's already barking prosecutorial immunity, even though
[01:08:09.220 --> 01:08:12.820]  all the things I've mentioned, the prosecutor does not have any rights. Now I've already got
[01:08:12.820 --> 01:08:17.940]  a bunch of the case law and references lined up, but I really want to back them in the corner.
[01:08:17.940 --> 01:08:22.020]  I'm wondering how strong is a Brady claim for exculpatory evidence?
[01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:25.300]  How strong?
[01:08:26.820 --> 01:08:33.220]  Yeah. It depends on your state law concerning discovery.
[01:08:34.900 --> 01:08:41.060]  We've got the Michael Morton Act here. You'll have some similar act that specifies
[01:08:42.580 --> 01:08:45.140]  what is essentially Brady information.
[01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:49.940]  Okay.
[01:08:53.060 --> 01:08:59.620]  I'm still not quite understanding your question about how strong is a Brady claim.
[01:09:00.900 --> 01:09:06.980]  Well, I remember Scott talking a couple of months ago about withholding information.
[01:09:06.980 --> 01:09:11.220]  And I forget the premise that he was talking about or the context he was talking about.
[01:09:12.020 --> 01:09:15.460]  But I mean, I typed it in the chat, GPT, and it's like, you cannot
[01:09:16.580 --> 01:09:20.820]  ignore what it came up with. You cannot ignore any evidence that...
[01:09:24.180 --> 01:09:30.740]  Yeah, it's exculpatory evidence. If it would tend to diminish the guilt or mitigate the
[01:09:31.700 --> 01:09:42.580]  severity or anything about how the defendant would be harmed as a result,
[01:09:44.260 --> 01:09:49.300]  you can't just take it and hide that. That's prosecutorial misconduct.
[01:09:49.300 --> 01:09:55.620]  Article 2.01, duties of officers. First duty, it shall be the primary duty of the prosecuting
[01:09:55.620 --> 01:10:02.660]  attorney not to secure conviction, but to ensure that justice is served. He shall not
[01:10:02.660 --> 01:10:07.620]  secret witnesses or evidence that would show the innocence of the accused or mitigate the
[01:10:07.620 --> 01:10:14.340]  guilt of the accused. That's the code in Texas. Probably have something of a similar nature
[01:10:15.300 --> 01:10:16.340]  in Colorado.
[01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:25.540]  Yeah, because that's also connected to the ABA model rules. So I'm pretty sure it would
[01:10:25.540 --> 01:10:30.180]  be a mirror image or very similar wording other places.
[01:10:31.780 --> 01:10:36.500]  Okay. I think some of the case law, I've got prime state stuff like that as well.
[01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:40.100]  So that was kind of...
[01:10:40.100 --> 01:10:44.740]  I don't know. I don't know if I'd call it a Brady claim. Brady is a case. Yeah,
[01:10:44.740 --> 01:10:54.580]  Brady v. Maryland, you could cite that. But I would consider it more as a prosecutorial
[01:10:54.580 --> 01:11:03.780]  misconduct. If you're claiming that something was wrong here, I would be looking at it like
[01:11:03.780 --> 01:11:12.340]  the prosecutor did something wrong here. So I'd call it misconduct. I wouldn't call it Brady.
[01:11:15.220 --> 01:11:17.380]  When you say Brady claim, that's probably why I was
[01:11:19.700 --> 01:11:22.420]  having a hard time trying to figure out what you mean about how strong.
[01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:30.980]  Because Brady is the case you would cite, but it's not a claim that anything Brady happened.
[01:11:30.980 --> 01:11:37.780]  It's just Brady is where it was reinforced and held that what everybody knew already,
[01:11:37.780 --> 01:11:40.580]  you can't withhold exculpatory evidence.
[01:11:43.620 --> 01:11:48.500]  Okay. So from what... Okay, that makes sense. I'm sorry. I was basically going to bring up
[01:11:48.500 --> 01:11:53.060]  Brady arguments, but I know it would have been a prosecutorial misconduct and due process violation.
[01:11:55.380 --> 01:12:04.420]  But what was I just about to say? So him knowing that their evidence existed either... And he had
[01:12:04.420 --> 01:12:11.860]  basically the same evidence in his hands. He had the police report, and he refused to discuss,
[01:12:11.860 --> 01:12:15.540]  or... And that was the whole purpose of these meetings, were basically coerced
[01:12:15.540 --> 01:12:21.060]  under threat of arrest to meet with the DA. And I found no law that says we have to do that.
[01:12:23.220 --> 01:12:27.300]  It doesn't exist from what I understand in Colorado, that we actually had to go to that meeting.
[01:12:29.620 --> 01:12:34.260]  When I go in, I'll always tell them I do not talk to persecuting attorneys, period.
[01:12:36.980 --> 01:12:37.940]  What would they do with that?
[01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:47.300]  Well, they would... I don't know what they would do, but what they do is they force you in.
[01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:52.020]  And that's my question. How do they get you to come in when you actually don't have to come in?
[01:12:52.020 --> 01:12:55.940]  But as soon as you say, I'm not dealing with the DA, they're like, okay, have a nice day.
[01:12:55.940 --> 01:13:02.500]  You're on to the preliminary hearing. Abusive process. In Texas, it would be
[01:13:02.500 --> 01:13:08.580]  simulating a legal process. If you order someone to come in for a reason for which
[01:13:08.580 --> 01:13:11.780]  you do not have authority, then you're simulating a legal process.
[01:13:13.540 --> 01:13:16.500]  And I also wonder... Oh, go ahead.
[01:13:16.500 --> 01:13:23.780]  I'm just going to say they passed that law and a couple more to stop the Republic of Texas
[01:13:23.780 --> 01:13:30.020]  and these other patriot groups. But we can also use them. Where these guys are trying
[01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:36.180]  to put together a citizens grand jury. They call that simulating a legal process and they
[01:13:36.180 --> 01:13:40.580]  put this law together to stop that. But now we get to use it against the prosecutor.
[01:13:41.860 --> 01:13:47.780]  That's what they get. And Chris, you mentioned that if you don't talk to the prosecutor,
[01:13:47.780 --> 01:13:52.180]  then... Well, that's it. Now you're on to the court case and here's your hearing.
[01:13:52.180 --> 01:13:57.540]  Well, if you don't talk to the prosecutor, you're going to fall off the cliff. We'll be right back.
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[01:16:16.900 --> 01:16:22.740]  Mm. Don't bore me.
[01:16:26.740 --> 01:16:27.240]  Well.
[01:16:30.740 --> 01:16:40.740]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. I was blindsided but now I can see your plan.
[01:16:40.740 --> 01:16:45.860]  You put the fear in my pockets, took the money from my hand.
[01:16:45.860 --> 01:16:54.580]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
[01:17:10.740 --> 01:17:14.580]  Ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch.
[01:17:15.620 --> 01:17:23.140]  I get it now but then I must have been out of your lunch. Back then you had room to move
[01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:29.620]  but now you're feeling the crunch. Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker punch.
[01:17:30.900 --> 01:17:37.540]  Okay we are back into Kelton Brett Fountain Wheelbarrow Radio and Brett you are about to
[01:17:37.540 --> 01:17:46.500]  dive off to Cleos. Well I would have given you a nice outro but the thing I wanted to mention
[01:17:46.500 --> 01:17:56.180]  Chris is in the situation where you're being tricked into thinking that a court case has
[01:17:56.180 --> 01:18:02.740]  started just because you didn't feel like talking to a prosecutor that day. That's a trick and it
[01:18:02.740 --> 01:18:09.140]  doesn't happen without your signature. There's going to be some court clerk or somebody that's
[01:18:09.140 --> 01:18:14.980]  going to put a paper in front of you and say okay well looks like you're declining this so that means
[01:18:14.980 --> 01:18:21.540]  you're going to sign up for you're going to go see the judge later on and you sign something.
[01:18:22.740 --> 01:18:30.260]  That signing is not insignificant. That signature is not just
[01:18:31.220 --> 01:18:35.780]  saying I acknowledge that I didn't feel like talking to a prosecutor. That signing is skipping
[01:18:35.780 --> 01:18:41.460]  the part where they have to produce a pleading, a primary pleading. You're saying I'm not guilty
[01:18:41.460 --> 01:18:49.620]  which means I recognize what you're accusing me of and I'm saying that I'm innocent of.
[01:18:52.340 --> 01:18:56.900]  When there is no primary pleading there is no court case but you're allowing them to skip it.
[01:18:57.300 --> 01:19:02.980]  That's their little loophole that they're looking for you to as a defendant to elect to proceed
[01:19:02.980 --> 01:19:09.540]  without any written notice or without any primary pleadings and it's in the code.
[01:19:11.300 --> 01:19:15.860]  A lot of people don't realize it. Yeah this is where it gets a little confusing. I don't know
[01:19:16.740 --> 01:19:21.220]  where maybe our federal protections jump in. Of course I go to Gerstein Pew and I'm thinking
[01:19:21.220 --> 01:19:26.820]  okay that just screams it but what they did in Colorado for misdemeanors is that they're
[01:19:26.820 --> 01:19:32.100]  essentially a police again can they initiate the prosecution. This is what it says in the criminal
[01:19:32.100 --> 01:19:36.500]  code. They initiate the prosecution with a summons and complaint. A summons and complaint
[01:19:36.500 --> 01:19:41.460]  essentially is the charging instrument and then they go on to make up whatever they want
[01:19:41.460 --> 01:19:45.940]  and without any judicial oversight. That's how they're doing it here. I assume that's how they're
[01:19:45.940 --> 01:19:51.540]  doing it in a lot of other places. Then the DA's office gets it and they wait to the absolute last
[01:19:51.540 --> 01:19:56.020]  minute because I walked in there like you told me to. I walked in there about every week or every
[01:19:56.020 --> 01:19:59.940]  few days and I said can I have a copy of the case. Sorry hasn't been filed yet copy the case
[01:19:59.940 --> 01:20:04.500]  hasn't been filed yet and I got multiple clerks saying they usually wait till the last minute.
[01:20:04.500 --> 01:20:09.860]  You might get it you might see it in the last week. Okay so it wasn't there the week before
[01:20:09.860 --> 01:20:15.300]  but when I show up that day there's a case number but the only thing in there is the police report
[01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:19.540]  that's acting as a charging instrument and according to the to the Colorado law that's
[01:20:19.540 --> 01:20:25.060]  sufficient. I don't know how you could do any of that without a judge saying yeah I sign off on
[01:20:25.060 --> 01:20:31.860]  this and so no judge signs off on it. It's it's assigned to a judge but the judge has not seen
[01:20:31.860 --> 01:20:36.500]  the case. I think I can prove that he hasn't seen any of the details to actually sign off that yeah
[01:20:36.500 --> 01:20:40.660]  we're moving forward with it. Then they get us they squeeze us in they coerce us into this first
[01:20:40.660 --> 01:20:46.100]  appearance and then you get there and under threat of arrest because you're getting the
[01:20:46.100 --> 01:20:49.700]  text that you'll have your consequences if you don't show up but they don't actually say if you
[01:20:49.700 --> 01:20:54.340]  you'll have a warrant and so they scare people into getting there and when you get there
[01:20:54.340 --> 01:20:59.620]  they make you think you actually have to meet with a prosecutor and oh sure sure put in there
[01:20:59.620 --> 01:21:04.420]  what another thing I put in there is that they coerced me into meeting with the DA without legal
[01:21:04.420 --> 01:21:10.900]  representation so they denied me access to you know under your you're entitled to it
[01:21:11.940 --> 01:21:17.380]  under you know criminal defense. Okay so all those things were bypassed just to see if they
[01:21:17.380 --> 01:21:21.780]  in my opinion to get away with it to see how many people are you know are dumb dumb dumb enough to
[01:21:21.780 --> 01:21:28.580]  go along with this. Okay hold on hold on hold on in Texas we have article 28.01.
[01:21:30.420 --> 01:21:37.060]  28.01 lists all of those things that the court can order you to come to court for
[01:21:38.580 --> 01:21:43.300]  in a criminal case you should have something similar in Colorado
[01:21:44.660 --> 01:21:49.780]  and all of those things that the judge can order you to come to court for
[01:21:50.740 --> 01:21:58.100]  they go to a meeting with the prosecutor for the purpose of hearing a motion and it goes
[01:21:58.100 --> 01:22:04.500]  it lists about 11 different types of motions and motions and pleadings that they can call you to
[01:22:04.500 --> 01:22:11.540]  court to hear but they just call you to court she says 28.01 says that the the judge can order
[01:22:11.620 --> 01:22:16.340]  the parties to the defendant to meet with the prosecutor
[01:22:17.860 --> 01:22:24.420]  for the purpose of and then it lists all these reasons and they forget all that rest of that
[01:22:24.420 --> 01:22:30.980]  stuff you should have something similar. I have found that there is a similar thing that is in
[01:22:30.980 --> 01:22:37.620]  in the criminal code but it's generally for felonies that's the language you can be ordered
[01:22:37.620 --> 01:22:42.420]  to come to court to meet with but it's generally after certain things have happened.
[01:22:43.860 --> 01:22:49.460]  The court you know it's for reasonableness and expediation and efficiency and the
[01:22:49.460 --> 01:22:54.740]  court can order you to meet with the DA but it has to be after certain things happen
[01:22:54.740 --> 01:22:58.980]  and it's pretty vague it's not just to show they could just do it any random time.
[01:22:58.980 --> 01:23:04.420]  We're saying that Colorado forces you to meet with opposing counsel.
[01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:11.300]  That's what they did. I don't meet with opposing counsel.
[01:23:12.260 --> 01:23:16.900]  Well another thing that stands out to me and I think it's we probably ought to drill into a
[01:23:16.900 --> 01:23:24.340]  little bit. Chris you said that in Colorado the way they do things is have the the
[01:23:26.100 --> 01:23:34.900]  the cop the police officer or peace officer I forget which you said he is commencing the case
[01:23:34.980 --> 01:23:41.140]  himself. He's initiating the case I think is the term you used and he does that just with
[01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:49.300]  his ticket which is labeled as a summons and complaint and that doesn't sound right to me.
[01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:56.100]  I'm not sure if if you have if that's a maybe for limited circumstances like maybe for
[01:23:56.100 --> 01:24:03.620]  municipal ordinance violation I could see that being legit but for criminal there's a whole
[01:24:03.620 --> 01:24:11.940]  bunch of due process that gets skipped if you have a a traffic officer handing you a ticket
[01:24:11.940 --> 01:24:14.820]  and somehow that magically created a court case.
[01:24:17.300 --> 01:24:21.620]  That's kind of how it is we look I looked at of course I you know check the pts did around a lot
[01:24:21.620 --> 01:24:26.100]  when I'm doing this and we and I look for the law and and and I finally pinned it down like hey what's
[01:24:26.100 --> 01:24:30.980]  the freaking law like do you know the law or not I'll find it if you don't it's kind of the way I
[01:24:30.980 --> 01:24:37.620]  talked to it and it finally pulls up the misdemeanor law and it actually says that a summons and
[01:24:37.620 --> 01:24:42.340]  complaint is the is the beginning of the prosecutor process the prosecution begins with a summons and
[01:24:42.340 --> 01:24:47.620]  complaint and so there is no because I was I kept hounding on what's where's the charging
[01:24:47.620 --> 01:24:57.380]  instrument where's the where's the information where you know. I realize GPT might have good
[01:24:57.380 --> 01:25:01.140]  results for you in some situations but you've got to go read what the law says.
[01:25:01.940 --> 01:25:06.580]  No it did it pulled it up and I went and read it and I'm like you got I was pissed me it upset me
[01:25:06.580 --> 01:25:10.580]  because I'm actually reading this like so someone's in my mind I'm reading the law
[01:25:10.580 --> 01:25:14.820]  and I'm looking at it I could pull it up I have to pull it up it's on one of my my threads
[01:25:15.540 --> 01:25:19.860]  and it's actually saying this and then I'm saying okay that's what they say it does the summons and
[01:25:19.860 --> 01:25:24.180]  complaint the prosecution begins with the summons and complaint and a P and a police officer
[01:25:24.260 --> 01:25:29.300]  is the initiator of the summons and complaint so I started looking for okay then where is the.
[01:25:30.020 --> 01:25:36.420]  That's got to be a limited scope I can't see that fitting for statewide like offenses criminal
[01:25:36.420 --> 01:25:43.060]  offenses that doesn't seem appropriate if so it flies in the face of so much of the protections
[01:25:43.060 --> 01:25:49.140]  that are written into a constitution and the other statutes let's let's look a little more
[01:25:49.140 --> 01:25:55.300]  at that could do you have it where we can take a look now or should we look at it tomorrow.
[01:25:56.260 --> 01:26:01.140]  I got to dig it up it's I've got so many threads I did take me a couple minutes to do but
[01:26:04.420 --> 01:26:08.340]  this is I've got the thread here but it's going to take me a minute to find it but
[01:26:08.900 --> 01:26:16.340]  this is what I'm trying to unravel a little bit is is basically what I found is that the D.A.
[01:26:16.340 --> 01:26:20.580]  and the police have all the authority in this in the misdemeanor processes
[01:26:21.940 --> 01:26:25.220]  it's not for it's not anything for once you get into felonies they're actually they're
[01:26:25.220 --> 01:26:29.700]  absolutely in a different process but for misdemeanors and maybe maybe even truthfully
[01:26:30.260 --> 01:26:37.460]  municipal I may have I may have merged those two it does say that so I'll get more specific it's
[01:26:37.460 --> 01:26:44.100]  like it's I have a number here somewhere I'll get more specific but what I'm trying to do is
[01:26:44.740 --> 01:26:49.140]  the magistrate judge to say yeah this is constitutionally good so when I go to the
[01:26:49.140 --> 01:26:56.260]  appeals court I've got something to bite to bite into yeah all right hold that thought
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[01:30:12.500 --> 01:30:15.300]  yeah who you want to chip who you take me for free toly
[01:30:16.020 --> 01:30:19.060]  oh you want to me no free toly you can't chip me
[01:30:21.220 --> 01:30:26.100]  don't let them chip you in the morning chip you in the evening put a chip in your body
[01:30:26.100 --> 01:30:32.580]  and anyway you go computer reading you can't hide me say from okay we are back randy kelton
[01:30:32.580 --> 01:30:40.500]  brett fountain rules on radio and we're talking to chris in colorado chris i was looking up the
[01:30:40.500 --> 01:30:47.300]  statute for when an officer is authorized to arrest for an on-site offense
[01:30:48.900 --> 01:30:54.500]  and what he is to do once he's made the arrest and i found it
[01:30:56.340 --> 01:31:01.060]  officer can arrest for an on-site offense but once he arrests under
[01:31:02.020 --> 01:31:09.860]  uh colorado revised statute 16-3-104 the arrest by peace officer
[01:31:12.100 --> 01:31:19.300]  this is from other jurisdiction definitions is using this section blah blah blah except as
[01:31:19.300 --> 01:31:27.460]  otherwise provided by law if an arrest is made in this state by a peace officer of another state
[01:31:28.260 --> 01:31:33.860]  in accordance with the provisions of this section he shall the i did not find the one i thought i
[01:31:33.860 --> 01:31:40.340]  did i'm trying to like an extradition yes is you know take him to the nearest magistrate
[01:31:41.700 --> 01:31:46.740]  to the nearest available judge of a court of record such judge that's not what i was looking
[01:31:49.780 --> 01:31:53.540]  it doesn't i haven't found anything that requires them to take you to a magistrate
[01:31:54.180 --> 01:31:57.460]  that would this thing of uh summons and and
[01:32:01.460 --> 01:32:07.460]  was it compliant summons and complaint yeah i did see a mention of that in uh
[01:32:08.580 --> 01:32:12.580]  some court rules they've got a court rule 4.1 they're talking about that
[01:32:13.380 --> 01:32:19.060]  that's not the statute from the legislature that's just the courts seen this colorado
[01:32:24.420 --> 01:32:30.260]  uh colorado preliminary here i've seen it before i just know where it is do you know where is chris
[01:32:34.260 --> 01:32:39.780]  hello sorry what requirement that a policeman take you to the nearest magistrate
[01:32:40.740 --> 01:32:42.100]  you have that in colorado
[01:32:44.260 --> 01:32:52.260]  hello yes we hear you chris what's okay the the one that says the one that says summons and
[01:32:52.260 --> 01:32:57.620]  complain is colorado rules a civil procedure for 4.1 for misdemeanors and petty offenses
[01:32:59.220 --> 01:33:06.580]  civil procedure but okay but still that's just that's court rules that's not uh the legislature
[01:33:06.580 --> 01:33:13.700]  that's not statute the statutes will protect the constitution the rules are the court talking about
[01:33:13.700 --> 01:33:23.140]  how they plan on doing things okay so i'm confused what is the criminal the criminal
[01:33:23.140 --> 01:33:27.220]  procedure you guys isn't that what you guys tell us to look up and read is the rules of criminal
[01:33:27.220 --> 01:33:32.660]  procedure no i was looking up this trying to find what you're talking about is court rules
[01:33:32.660 --> 01:33:41.380]  what randy was reading is called revised uh rs was rsv rsc it's the revised statutes of colorado
[01:33:41.380 --> 01:33:48.980]  so let's see how they i wanted to see what the law commanded a police officer to do when he made
[01:33:48.980 --> 01:33:55.860]  an arrest uh the standard was the uh
[01:33:57.540 --> 01:34:02.580]  Agnacarta Libertatum which would require them to take you directly to the nearest magistrate
[01:34:03.220 --> 01:34:08.660]  and it should be in here somewhere it seems i remember seeing it i just can't find it
[01:34:09.620 --> 01:34:19.220]  well i'm looking at colorado revised statutes so chris the crs was what i was looking for i wasn't
[01:34:19.220 --> 01:34:26.420]  sure if they called it rsc for colorado but it's crs and it looks like where we're going to find it
[01:34:26.420 --> 01:34:35.860]  is going to be in uh title 16 probably criminal proceedings and i'm looking in title 18 i've got
[01:34:35.940 --> 01:34:41.140]  title 18 talking about the criminal code that one so it's more likely just going to describe the
[01:34:41.140 --> 01:34:48.340]  crimes but title 16 is where i'm digging right now and probably where we're more most likely
[01:34:48.340 --> 01:34:53.300]  to find it all this that you were talking about a moment ago the summons and complaints stuff
[01:34:53.300 --> 01:35:00.420]  is referenced in rule 4.1 of some court rules that's not the not from the legislature that's
[01:35:00.420 --> 01:35:06.660]  not law so well i mean so do you see the distinction
[01:35:08.420 --> 01:35:14.180]  with the colorado revised statute some some congressman senator there somebody submitted
[01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:22.740]  a bill that went through the the whole process and became law okay
[01:35:22.740 --> 01:35:25.060]  okay
[01:35:28.100 --> 01:35:32.180]  there is no section 16 title 16
[01:35:34.820 --> 01:35:39.620]  article 1 part 4 sections oh okay title 16 okay
[01:35:44.260 --> 01:35:50.420]  okay i'm looking at 16 5101 of colorado revised statutes i'm reading through it right now
[01:35:53.300 --> 01:35:59.380]  misdemeanors that looks like a good spot okay misdemeanors and petty offenses can be commenced
[01:35:59.380 --> 01:36:05.540]  by issuance of a summons and complaint okay so it's parallel for the court for the criminal
[01:36:05.540 --> 01:36:12.020]  procedure issuance of a summons following the filing of a complaint filing a complaint following
[01:36:12.020 --> 01:36:16.260]  arrest filing of a summons and complaint following arrest
[01:36:21.300 --> 01:36:26.020]  this is speaking to the county court did you say that you were in a city court
[01:36:27.540 --> 01:36:32.340]  it was county it's county okay
[01:36:34.900 --> 01:36:36.500]  so the summons and complaint
[01:36:37.140 --> 01:36:43.540]  and here we have indictments or info and informations
[01:36:49.540 --> 01:36:55.460]  or anyway you got me thinking about though was the actual arrest the whole thing this is spinning on
[01:36:55.460 --> 01:37:02.260]  is did they have a right to arrest me and then cite me for a misdemeanor they actually assaulted
[01:37:02.260 --> 01:37:07.700]  me and arrested me but the and then they didn't read me any miranda rights or anything i was under
[01:37:07.700 --> 01:37:12.580]  arrest they didn't tell me what i was under arrest where they just did the arrest and then
[01:37:13.220 --> 01:37:18.260]  backed off the arrest and treated it as a treated it as a citation
[01:37:18.340 --> 01:37:29.540]  and they arrested you and then backed off the arrest
[01:37:31.060 --> 01:37:36.820]  that's how they did everything even the attorney is trying to get around the fact because he when
[01:37:36.820 --> 01:37:45.220]  we had to agree for our preliminary hearing for the status hearing we had to do you know the
[01:37:45.220 --> 01:37:49.780]  scheduling order and the attorney the only thing he was willing to put in there is that i was cited
[01:37:49.780 --> 01:37:53.940]  for third degree criminal criminal trespass and i said okay what i'm going to put in there i was
[01:37:53.940 --> 01:37:59.140]  arrested and cited for third degree third degree criminal trespass and he wouldn't agree to that
[01:37:59.140 --> 01:38:03.380]  so they're trying to get away from the fact that i was actually arrested they're trying to just say
[01:38:03.380 --> 01:38:08.260]  that i was cited and that i refused to id and yet they didn't give me any they didn't even they
[01:38:08.260 --> 01:38:12.980]  didn't give me that charge all they gave me was third degree criminal trespass but i find it
[01:38:12.980 --> 01:38:19.140]  interesting that they had they could only get the citation after an actual arrest and yet
[01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:23.700]  that's not being looked at so i don't understand quite understand that dynamic but from what i
[01:38:23.700 --> 01:38:28.820]  understand i should have been read my Miranda rights and i should not have been coerced to
[01:38:28.820 --> 01:38:31.860]  give me any my any of my information once they had me in handcuffs
[01:38:36.580 --> 01:38:38.900]  well most states require identification
[01:38:39.380 --> 01:38:45.940]  after you're in handcuffs nothing beyond that they don't consider identifying yourself as
[01:38:45.940 --> 01:38:47.540]  potentially incriminating
[01:38:50.740 --> 01:38:54.900]  right but if he had no grounds for the arrest in the first part i had no right i had no reason to
[01:38:54.900 --> 01:39:01.540]  identify myself have you raised an issue of false arrest and false imprisonment oh absolutely
[01:39:01.540 --> 01:39:06.900]  against the police but this is this part yeah the police is all going forward they haven't
[01:39:06.900 --> 01:39:14.900]  contested any of the any of the any of my claims but they're trying to pressure me to think that
[01:39:14.900 --> 01:39:18.420]  i'm going to cave before we get to court so they want to they want a jury trial and all that kind
[01:39:18.420 --> 01:39:24.820]  of stuff so they're pushing to speed this thing up but on the d.a. side though this is where i'm
[01:39:24.820 --> 01:39:30.020]  trying to pin them because this is this is how the corruption's turned into a cash cow for them
[01:39:30.020 --> 01:39:36.820]  right they get everybody if they are illegally arrested they're going to be fined and they're
[01:39:36.820 --> 01:39:45.220]  arrested you doesn't that is there anything in colorado law that would taint any subsequent
[01:39:45.220 --> 01:39:54.580]  evidence they would produce i don't know that's my question i don't think they could i don't think
[01:39:54.580 --> 01:40:01.140]  they can coerce you to identify yourself therefore i don't know if that's self-incriminating when they
[01:40:01.140 --> 01:40:06.980]  had no right to arrest you in the first place they had no grounds to do what they did therefore
[01:40:06.980 --> 01:40:13.780]  i had no obligation to comply with anything they were doing it's a good point
[01:40:15.700 --> 01:40:19.540]  and i did though because i didn't know if i was going to get the crap i was already getting
[01:40:20.100 --> 01:40:23.300]  roughed up i didn't know if i was going to continue to get the crap beat out of me
[01:40:23.300 --> 01:40:28.420]  so i was i was already in a shock the paramedics were called it was it was just a mess
[01:40:28.500 --> 01:40:30.500]  and
[01:40:32.500 --> 01:40:36.180]  yeah you might look into also that having been a forced interaction
[01:40:37.140 --> 01:40:40.900]  when you were forced to associate when you had a right to not associate
[01:40:43.540 --> 01:40:51.220]  right and this is this is interesting how many seconds do we have 10 okay i don't think i'll get
[01:40:51.220 --> 01:40:56.500]  this time except to say i'll wait to the other side okay ready to help rep fountain roo of law
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[01:43:26.500 --> 01:43:36.980]  some things i realize fully somebody's on a police a policeman somebody's on a police
[01:43:37.140 --> 01:43:40.260]  police
[01:43:52.180 --> 01:43:54.740]  chris this is the last segment
[01:43:57.140 --> 01:44:03.220]  let's call me in tomorrow i've got another caller and uh if i don't do something i won't
[01:44:03.220 --> 01:44:08.900]  get to hold on let me unmute you okay okay yeah call call us tomorrow because
[01:44:09.780 --> 01:44:13.780]  we need to spend more time with you okay thank you again thank you very much
[01:44:13.780 --> 01:44:22.180]  thanks thank you chris okay now we're going to mike in georgia hello mike oh where'd he go
[01:44:25.300 --> 01:44:30.980]  wow oh man he dropped off just when we were going to see if i can get him back
[01:44:33.700 --> 01:44:33.940]  huh
[01:44:36.580 --> 01:44:38.260]  well that was annoying
[01:44:41.220 --> 01:44:45.380]  okay while we're trying to get him back he must have thought he wasn't going to get a chance
[01:44:45.380 --> 01:44:51.220]  because we're towards the end of the show now and he probably thought he missed his opportunity
[01:44:51.220 --> 01:44:58.260]  yes so we were we were discussing kind of on the breaks going to go down to austin and pick a fight
[01:44:58.500 --> 01:45:03.700]  and i'm figuring out how i want to pick that fight i want to give some criminal complaints
[01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:10.180]  to the district judges there and they're all all of the district judges in travis county are democrats
[01:45:11.620 --> 01:45:18.660]  i was looking them up and i got up got the voting record all of them
[01:45:20.020 --> 01:45:24.660]  voted in with a margin of one to two points
[01:45:24.660 --> 01:45:25.460]  to two points
[01:45:28.100 --> 01:45:32.500]  now we might get one or two close calls but all of them
[01:45:34.580 --> 01:45:38.500]  that was disturbing yeah but but they were all democrats
[01:45:41.060 --> 01:45:50.420]  so uh he just the u.s. the attorney general ken paxton uh he's pretty p.o'd at these guys
[01:45:51.300 --> 01:45:53.780]  he's especially p.o'd at the court of criminal appeals
[01:45:55.140 --> 01:46:00.420]  so what i'm going to do is brett you've been working with this
[01:46:01.540 --> 01:46:08.260]  text is mad justice justice of the peace training center that what it's called
[01:46:09.780 --> 01:46:16.900]  yeah it's a justice court training center they call it they're producing these uh
[01:46:17.300 --> 01:46:24.740]  magistration bench book and various training materials that sort of like cliff notes
[01:46:24.740 --> 01:46:32.660]  so that the judges won't have to actually read the law the way i'm reading it is they produce
[01:46:32.660 --> 01:46:41.140]  this thing as a very deliberate intent to render chapter 16 code of criminal procedure superfluous
[01:46:41.140 --> 01:46:51.140]  it certainly appears that way went to great pains to avoid chapter 16 altogether
[01:46:52.660 --> 01:46:57.620]  and i'm going to call going to great pains to keep me from having a conversation or joining
[01:46:57.620 --> 01:47:03.300]  in any of their meetings or having any of their records or or being a part of figuring out what's
[01:47:03.300 --> 01:47:09.460]  going on so i'm going to great pains they're in a tizzy i'm going to take my my lawsuit
[01:47:10.420 --> 01:47:16.500]  i'm going to convert it into a criminal complaint against each one of those individuals
[01:47:18.340 --> 01:47:24.420]  and take it to the all the district you well i'm going to go down there and give it to a district
[01:47:24.420 --> 01:47:32.820]  judge and i'm going to demand that he issue warrants on all of them right now and says
[01:47:32.820 --> 01:47:39.060]  forthwith of course he's going to refuse and then i'm going to go down to the justice of the
[01:47:39.060 --> 01:47:46.980]  peace that's in the county court building there in austin and sue it in his personal capacity
[01:47:48.980 --> 01:47:56.020]  and then i'm going to go back up make up change the day we have done the complaint to the to this
[01:47:56.100 --> 01:48:03.860]  judge and charge him for failing to issue warrants give it to the next judge
[01:48:08.020 --> 01:48:14.020]  see if they get the irony of that yeah judge i gave all of these complaints to this judge
[01:48:14.820 --> 01:48:19.540]  and under 15.09 he was commanded to issue a warrant he didn't issue a warrant
[01:48:19.540 --> 01:48:21.620]  so i want you to issue a warrant against him
[01:48:24.260 --> 01:48:29.620]  do you think i'll get any any judge to issue a warrant against one of the other judges
[01:48:31.220 --> 01:48:38.260]  not going to happen what's up gonna try to hide and scurry and cover for each other
[01:48:39.460 --> 01:48:46.580]  the ones i can't find i'll put it in an envelope and give it to the court coordinator
[01:48:46.580 --> 01:48:58.100]  here and then when i don't get responses then i will petition the attorney general
[01:48:59.140 --> 01:49:00.900]  for warrento removal
[01:49:03.380 --> 01:49:07.220]  and we got an attorney general who's not a happy camper with these democrats
[01:49:07.620 --> 01:49:14.820]  it's all political at the end of the day looks like we're not getting
[01:49:16.340 --> 01:49:22.500]  mikey back so maybe he'll call in tomorrow he might have heard me say call in tomorrow
[01:49:22.500 --> 01:49:29.060]  and he decided to do that so but anyway i think if we do this right
[01:49:29.060 --> 01:49:39.700]  right we can really i want to put them on as as big a dime as i possibly can
[01:49:41.940 --> 01:49:48.100]  so you've been trying to deal with them do you have any complaints against them
[01:49:49.220 --> 01:49:54.740]  for their behavior when like for open records and open meetings and such yes both
[01:49:59.220 --> 01:50:07.060]  and have you filed any complaints nope not yet
[01:50:10.660 --> 01:50:15.220]  i have reason to believe and do believe but that's as far as it's gotten so far
[01:50:17.220 --> 01:50:23.780]  what do you have reason to believe that they did well they failed as 552.353
[01:50:24.740 --> 01:50:30.580]  um is not producing the records that were requested they were unquestionably public
[01:50:31.940 --> 01:50:40.020]  and they have demonstrated their complete incompetence and lack of training
[01:50:41.380 --> 01:50:49.860]  ironic for a training center regarding public records and open meetings so that's 552.012
[01:50:50.340 --> 01:50:57.780]  and oh i've done the same thing for open meetings they demonstrated lack of training in open records
[01:50:58.580 --> 01:51:06.020]  yes oh perfect yeah because they're required by the attorney general the attorney general puts
[01:51:06.020 --> 01:51:11.540]  out training and they're required to watch it and go through it once a year they have to
[01:51:12.500 --> 01:51:15.620]  have certificates of that and they don't
[01:51:17.700 --> 01:51:23.540]  and the same for open meetings you may statutes require them to have a certain amount of training
[01:51:24.340 --> 01:51:33.140]  and they haven't been doing it oh wonderful of all people that's what i mean it's kind of ironic
[01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:34.900]  right you got the trainer
[01:51:39.860 --> 01:51:46.580]  would you make me up a set of complaints and have them notarized and send them to me or
[01:51:46.580 --> 01:51:55.460]  would you be able to come down to austin monday i might be able to do that we've got um i'd like
[01:51:55.460 --> 01:52:01.620]  to take the complaints to the attorney general he's been very helpful with these before he has no
[01:52:01.620 --> 01:52:08.260]  standing no but he does get their attention well this is what i'm going to do we're going to take
[01:52:08.260 --> 01:52:13.140]  it to the attorney general for co-warrant oh that's going to get your attention
[01:52:15.620 --> 01:52:20.180]  for removal for accusing them of repudiating their contract
[01:52:24.020 --> 01:52:28.260]  they swore on their oath they would do these things then they didn't do these things
[01:52:28.260 --> 01:52:35.860]  that's the repudiation of the contract yep i think you're right that is grounds for co-warrant
[01:52:35.860 --> 01:52:42.340]  or removal everybody's going down there and griping about them because they're jerks
[01:52:42.980 --> 01:52:48.100]  oh they were mean to me they did this naughty stuff blah blah blah i want to give the attorney
[01:52:48.100 --> 01:52:56.660]  general absolute grounds for removal swore on their oath before we interviewed the attorney general
[01:52:57.060 --> 01:53:02.340]  before we entered into a contract with them then they breached that contract
[01:53:06.260 --> 01:53:12.740]  want them to know who the most powerful individual in the building is it's not
[01:53:17.060 --> 01:53:21.780]  so oh this would be great both of us go down there
[01:53:21.780 --> 01:53:28.020]  there that way if they get real rowdy and act like they're gonna knuckle up on us
[01:53:28.740 --> 01:53:34.900]  i can throw you at them and run that's where you he made me do it
[01:53:38.980 --> 01:53:44.660]  hey it's the kind of guy i thought that's where you get miss crannick to go beat up on the sergeant
[01:53:44.660 --> 01:53:50.580]  at arms or something ah the last time i took mary to the courthouse with me and this this little
[01:53:52.500 --> 01:53:59.540]  bailiff got all huffy puffy and i asked him if he's gonna pull that pistol on me she ran like a
[01:53:59.540 --> 01:54:09.300]  rabbit scooted out the door left me high dry now senate subcommittee here now it was different
[01:54:10.660 --> 01:54:15.220]  i did think i was gonna have to pull her off the sergeant at arms and she was gonna get us both
[01:54:15.220 --> 01:54:22.260]  beaten into unconsciousness and thrown in jail but she got away with a lot more than i would have
[01:54:25.140 --> 01:54:35.220]  but if we get these judges up on a dime they can't find a way off of then we sue all of them
[01:54:35.220 --> 01:54:43.300]  um each judge will go down and and sue him in the jp court
[01:54:46.740 --> 01:54:50.500]  with the suit already written when you asked him to do the job that you knew
[01:54:50.500 --> 01:54:58.180]  he's required to do but he's not going to exactly how does it feel to be played like a chief fiddle
[01:54:58.180 --> 01:55:05.300]  bubba and that's what we want them to know it's not that we're just suing number we want them to
[01:55:05.300 --> 01:55:10.900]  know that we were able to walk into your court because you were so self-righteous and arrogant
[01:55:12.260 --> 01:55:19.220]  set you up that was the best part of my the lawsuit i filed it was nathan hatch the chief
[01:55:19.220 --> 01:55:25.300]  justice of the supreme but i sent him to complain against the governor he didn't issue warrants
[01:55:26.260 --> 01:55:32.740]  how does it feel to be played like a cheap fiddle bubba and he obviously didn't know what to do about
[01:55:32.740 --> 01:55:40.180]  that the way they responded oh my goodness he was not a happy camper and that's exactly what i
[01:55:40.180 --> 01:55:46.980]  wanted we'll force these judges to read all this okay we're out of time thank you all for listening
[01:55:46.980 --> 01:55:49.140]  good night