[00:00.000 --> 00:05.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.800 --> 00:09.460]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.460 --> 00:10.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.880]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.880 --> 00:16.980]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.980 --> 00:18.560]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.560 --> 00:22.160]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.160 --> 00:26.940]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.940 --> 00:32.160]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.160 --> 00:34.720]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.880 --> 00:47.820]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.820 --> 00:50.880]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:50.880 --> 00:54.560]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.560 --> 01:01.560]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.560 --> 01:03.080]  and R for religion.
[01:03.080 --> 01:07.080]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.080 --> 01:10.880]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.880 --> 01:14.600]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.600 --> 01:18.120]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.120 --> 01:20.880]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.880 --> 01:22.720]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.720 --> 01:31.200]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.200 --> 01:34.840]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.840 --> 01:38.320]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.320 --> 01:39.760]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.760 --> 01:43.680]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.680 --> 01:46.820]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.820 --> 01:48.400]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.400 --> 01:52.000]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:52.000 --> 01:56.800]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[01:56.800 --> 02:01.920]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.920 --> 02:04.560]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[02:15.960 --> 02:20.320]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.320 --> 02:22.400]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.400 --> 02:26.880]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.880 --> 02:30.720]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.720 --> 02:31.720]  Get it?
[02:31.720 --> 02:34.040]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:34.040 --> 02:37.640]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.640 --> 02:38.640]  when he said,
[02:38.640 --> 02:43.800]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.800 --> 02:48.920]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.920 --> 02:50.640]  has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.640 --> 02:52.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.600 --> 03:21.440]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:22.600 --> 03:45.960]  What are you going to do, what are you going to do, what are you going to do, what are
[03:45.960 --> 03:59.480]  you going to do when they come for you?
[03:59.480 --> 04:00.480]  Okay.
[04:00.480 --> 04:01.480]  Howdy, howdy.
[04:01.480 --> 04:08.720]  Randy Kelvin, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this Thursday, the 15th day of June,
[04:08.720 --> 04:11.180]  2023.
[04:11.180 --> 04:18.940]  watching the program today on El Niña and La Niña and El Niño.
[04:18.940 --> 04:25.100]  Apparently El Niña hung on longer than they expected
[04:25.100 --> 04:32.700]  and a lot has built up. El Niño is expected to start coming at us
[04:32.700 --> 04:37.260]  and we can look for some serious, serious heat
[04:37.260 --> 04:43.100]  in the next few months. So make sure your air conditioner is working.
[04:43.100 --> 04:50.620]  Okay, I am turning on the phone lines so if anybody has a question or a comment
[04:50.620 --> 04:58.140]  give us a call or call in number 512-646-1984
[04:58.140 --> 05:04.780]  and I went to a traffic hearing this week. I was fighting this traffic ticket
[05:04.780 --> 05:11.660]  in a small town near me. A police officer stopped
[05:11.660 --> 05:19.340]  to me because he said my license plate was obscured.
[05:19.820 --> 05:23.180]  Well, it was perfectly visible, didn't have any dirt on it.
[05:23.180 --> 05:27.820]  Yeah, it was kind of bent up where I backed into a few trailers with it but
[05:27.820 --> 05:31.980]  it was perfectly readable. The edges were bent up a little bit.
[05:31.980 --> 05:39.020]  So that was obvious and I fought them and the first three hearings the
[05:39.020 --> 05:43.180]  judge didn't like one bit. I asked him to arrest his clerk
[05:43.180 --> 05:47.340]  and he refused. I told him at the next hearing I wanted
[05:47.340 --> 05:53.260]  a security present and he said why would I need security on a Zoom hearing?
[05:53.260 --> 05:58.620]  Well, so the next time you commit a crime I'm going to ask security to
[05:58.620 --> 06:04.860]  arrest you. He denied. I filed a subject matter
[06:04.860 --> 06:09.740]  jurisdiction challenge and he denied it. Well, there are a lot of things you can
[06:09.740 --> 06:13.500]  do with a subject matter jurisdiction challenge.
[06:13.500 --> 06:20.220]  Deny it is not one of them. So they set two hearings,
[06:20.220 --> 06:27.900]  set two Zoom hearings and they neglected to notify me of them.
[06:27.900 --> 06:33.420]  Then they sent a notice to the Department of Public Safety
[06:33.420 --> 06:39.100]  stating that I failed to appear and the Department of Public Safety
[06:39.100 --> 06:45.740]  suspended my license. Well, I just went to a hearing yesterday
[06:45.740 --> 06:50.540]  and because I got pulled over and found out my license had been suspended
[06:50.540 --> 06:59.420]  so I sent in a change of plea to Nolo Contendre and a notice of appeal
[06:59.420 --> 07:08.380]  and a petition for inability to pay. I went into a hearing and the judge was
[07:08.380 --> 07:14.860]  surprisingly cautious. He actually turned on the recording for
[07:14.860 --> 07:19.740]  my hearing, said this was a court of record.
[07:19.740 --> 07:23.740]  Well, he shouldn't have said that to me because I'm going to want a recording of
[07:23.740 --> 07:29.820]  every hearing I've been to, Mr. Court of Record.
[07:29.820 --> 07:37.420]  So anyway, I got in the notice of appeal and he
[07:37.420 --> 07:41.180]  actually granted it
[07:41.660 --> 07:48.380]  and set a bond for $800 but they didn't have to pay it
[07:48.380 --> 07:55.740]  and now he says I have to put in a bail. It's very complicated.
[07:55.740 --> 08:03.100]  No, it's not. The bond is an option.
[08:03.100 --> 08:11.340]  Bail is a constitutional right. The bail form is in the Texas Code of
[08:11.340 --> 08:15.900]  Criminal Procedure. They actually have the form in there
[08:15.900 --> 08:19.180]  and I actually have a template of one on my website
[08:19.180 --> 08:25.020]  in my file so I'll give him a bail form and then we'll go to
[08:25.020 --> 08:31.180]  the county court. Well, the county court judge
[08:31.180 --> 08:38.380]  happens to be the only public official I believe that doesn't hate me.
[08:38.380 --> 08:43.420]  He was the county attorney. I knew him when he was a county attorney
[08:43.420 --> 08:49.500]  and then he was the district attorney for about 20 years
[08:49.500 --> 08:54.140]  and we have had a very good relationship over the years
[08:54.140 --> 08:57.980]  and he told me once when I went to his office he said what were you doing in
[08:57.980 --> 09:01.660]  Wichita Falls? I said you know about that? He said oh
[09:01.660 --> 09:05.260]  yeah. I got a call from the prosecutor attorney
[09:05.260 --> 09:08.860]  and he wanted to know if I knew you and I told him yes I did
[09:08.860 --> 09:13.820]  and then he wanted to know if you were crazy. I said
[09:13.820 --> 09:17.260]  what did you tell him? He said yeah he's crazy
[09:17.260 --> 09:20.780]  but if he tells you something about law pay attention
[09:20.780 --> 09:27.980]  because he does his homework. I said I'll take that.
[09:28.780 --> 09:32.700]  If doing my homework and knowing the law better than they do is crazy
[09:32.700 --> 09:39.740]  I can deal with that. So now I'm going to go before him with this appeal
[09:39.740 --> 09:44.380]  and I'm going to unload everything on him.
[09:44.460 --> 09:49.820]  I really believe this guy wants to do things right
[09:49.820 --> 09:55.100]  and he knows that I'm filing these so that I can get them to the court of
[09:55.100 --> 09:57.660]  appeals
[09:57.980 --> 10:02.060]  and I don't think he wants to be overturned.
[10:02.060 --> 10:09.900]  So I may actually get a judge who will rule on the facts and the law
[10:09.900 --> 10:13.500]  and that would be interesting.
[10:13.900 --> 10:18.540]  So I've got I'm looking forward to the next year I still
[10:18.540 --> 10:25.500]  don't have my license it's still revoked or not revoked it's still
[10:25.500 --> 10:29.580]  suspended but I my license expired so I couldn't
[10:29.580 --> 10:33.340]  renew it. So that's caused me a real problem but
[10:33.340 --> 10:37.980]  when I was at this hearing I told the prosecutor wanted to
[10:37.980 --> 10:40.700]  make a deal and I said no there won't be any deals.
[10:40.700 --> 10:48.140]  I've already filed a change of plea and a plea of no law contend a
[10:48.140 --> 10:52.140]  and notice of appeal but what I'm here for
[10:52.140 --> 10:58.940]  is I want to see from the clerk's
[10:58.940 --> 11:04.940]  computer the email that she sent me to appear at these two
[11:04.940 --> 11:08.700]  hearings. Well she went and looked and she brought
[11:08.700 --> 11:12.380]  me an email for a different hearing one that I actually got
[11:12.380 --> 11:16.140]  and I looked at it and I said yeah I actually got this one.
[11:16.140 --> 11:23.340]  I want to see the two I didn't get and she never came up with those.
[11:23.340 --> 11:30.780]  When I had a ticket in Combi they charged me with a failure to appear
[11:30.780 --> 11:35.020]  but they never noticed me for me to appear.
[11:35.020 --> 11:41.980]  Brett he's not here yet he's on his way he got a ticket in Combi same thing
[11:41.980 --> 11:48.140]  happened to him. It appears as though
[11:48.140 --> 11:53.660]  since the I think it was the last legislature
[11:53.660 --> 11:59.580]  they made it so that the municipal courts could no longer issue a
[11:59.580 --> 12:06.060]  warrant for failure to appear on a class city misdemeanor.
[12:06.060 --> 12:09.500]  So they had a problem they couldn't coerce us
[12:09.500 --> 12:13.020]  so they figured out another way to do it.
[12:13.020 --> 12:19.420]  Set a zoom hearing don't give notice when you don't appear at the zoom hearing
[12:19.420 --> 12:23.340]  then they send a notice to the department of public safety
[12:23.340 --> 12:28.060]  and the department of public safety will suspend your license for failure to
[12:28.060 --> 12:34.780]  appear. Neat trick problem is
[12:34.780 --> 12:40.060]  she should have never sent me an email notice to appear.
[12:40.060 --> 12:47.500]  First three were email and if she had mailed a notice
[12:47.500 --> 12:53.420]  to appear with no certified mail she could testify that she sent it.
[12:53.420 --> 13:00.540]  I could testify that I never received it and I would be screwed
[13:00.540 --> 13:07.260]  but she didn't she sent three email notices to appear and then
[13:07.260 --> 13:12.060]  all of a sudden there are no email notices to appear
[13:12.060 --> 13:17.260]  and she's saying she mailed it and I'm saying well show me the certified mail
[13:17.260 --> 13:20.460]  with my signature on the return receipt saying prove I
[13:20.460 --> 13:24.860]  you actually mailed it you're saying you did but I didn't get it
[13:24.860 --> 13:29.260]  and I'll testify that I didn't get it well she couldn't produce
[13:29.260 --> 13:33.100]  the emails from her server.
[13:33.100 --> 13:40.380]  So this will get interesting if she doesn't produce the
[13:40.380 --> 13:47.260]  emails then I sue her personally her and the judge for conspiring with
[13:47.260 --> 13:51.020]  one another to deny me due process because I
[13:51.020 --> 13:55.580]  fought the ticket and now I'll dig into the rest of her
[13:55.580 --> 13:59.580]  emails I want to see all of the notices to appear
[13:59.580 --> 14:07.100]  and all of the failures to appear that they have issued
[14:07.100 --> 14:12.620]  and then I'm going to compare them see if I see more of these and I suspect
[14:12.620 --> 14:18.460]  I will and then we'll have ourselves a wonderful
[14:18.460 --> 14:23.820]  lawsuit and I won't be in there claiming that the
[14:23.820 --> 14:28.700]  statues don't apply to me because I'm a man on the land and all
[14:28.700 --> 14:32.780]  that other crap I'll be taking them on on their own
[14:32.780 --> 14:39.500]  statues and their own practices I'll be taking them on the way they
[14:39.500 --> 14:43.580]  take me on and we'll see how this works out for them
[14:43.580 --> 14:49.740]  we do have a full board of callers so I'm going to shut up now
[14:49.740 --> 14:53.500]  and go to the caller board we're going to go to
[14:53.500 --> 15:00.940]  Earl in Michigan hello Earl what do you have for us today
[15:00.940 --> 15:05.340]  I just wanted to say that I've been in the telegram group
[15:05.340 --> 15:11.660]  very long time and just recently consumed pretty much all your
[15:11.660 --> 15:20.300]  archived episodes and thank you for doing all those
[15:20.300 --> 15:26.620]  well now we only have about 3 000 archives
[15:26.620 --> 15:29.980]  so you'll probably run out soon
[15:30.540 --> 15:37.020]  we also have archives on our website these we have someone on telegram
[15:37.020 --> 15:40.140]  who's recording about it's doing a great job
[15:40.140 --> 15:44.620]  but he hasn't been doing that a terribly long time
[15:44.620 --> 15:52.300]  if you run out we've got plenty more we've got about 15 years worth
[15:52.300 --> 15:57.820]  anyway okay what do you have for us today
[15:57.820 --> 16:05.180]  well I'm going through I initiated a custody case and I know that
[16:05.180 --> 16:11.980]  family law is a little bit different but the opposing
[16:11.980 --> 16:16.860]  lawyer I don't have a lawyer but the opposing lawyer
[16:16.860 --> 16:19.580]  either
[16:20.140 --> 16:29.260]  coached his client to word a statement in their answer
[16:29.260 --> 16:35.980]  and in that statement they basically alleged that
[16:35.980 --> 16:44.780]  I am abusing my daughter like in a that is standard that is standard
[16:44.780 --> 16:49.340]  procedure these days hang on we'll pick this up on the other
[16:49.340 --> 16:53.420]  side randy kelton brett fountain we've on radio
[16:53.420 --> 16:56.460]  we'll be right back
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[18:58.940 --> 19:25.660]  scriptures
[19:29.580 --> 19:32.700]  they don't have the answer
[19:32.700 --> 19:34.700]  open your eyes
[19:34.700 --> 19:37.900]  we ask the question
[19:37.900 --> 19:39.900]  look what we get
[19:39.900 --> 19:41.900]  and they don't have an answer
[19:41.900 --> 19:43.900]  of soap and slip and slide
[19:43.900 --> 19:49.180]  i'ma talk about issues for see lord how they want we take it easy
[19:49.180 --> 19:54.220]  them i talk way too politically and them getting mad and angry
[19:54.220 --> 19:58.860]  but them not standing up and fighting fight for the freedom and be free
[19:58.860 --> 20:05.900]  and they like them love slavery and get hand out from the government
[20:05.900 --> 20:11.340]  okay we are back kelton wet fountain lula radio
[20:11.340 --> 20:15.340]  and we're talking to earl and michigan and i didn't know that earl's the first
[20:15.340 --> 20:21.900]  time caller so uh i'm glad to see you on and
[20:21.900 --> 20:28.620]  you were accused of abusing your child this is standard procedure these days
[20:28.620 --> 20:33.980]  uh in fort worth we have metal detectors in the courthouse
[20:33.980 --> 20:37.980]  and the reason we have metal detectors in the courthouse is because a lawyer
[20:37.980 --> 20:40.780]  came in
[20:40.780 --> 20:43.260]  with a pistol
[20:43.260 --> 20:45.740]  shot the judge dead
[20:45.740 --> 20:48.940]  shot opposing counsel dead
[20:48.940 --> 20:52.460]  put the gun down they pled guilty
[20:52.460 --> 20:54.620]  to first degree murder
[20:54.620 --> 21:01.340]  refused to appeal and had them execute him because his wife
[21:01.340 --> 21:08.460]  at the lawyer's urging accused him of molesting his daughter
[21:08.460 --> 21:15.020]  and he said they destroyed his life that they destroyed his life beyond
[21:15.020 --> 21:18.860]  repair so he killed the judge and the opposing
[21:18.860 --> 21:22.060]  counsel and then let them electrocute him after
[21:22.060 --> 21:26.220]  that they put in metal detectors but they don't have
[21:26.220 --> 21:31.740]  lawyers go through the metal detectors go figure so this is standard
[21:31.740 --> 21:36.300]  procedure you get in a domestic dispute with
[21:36.300 --> 21:40.460]  your wife the lawyer is going to tell her to
[21:40.460 --> 21:46.620]  accuse you of molesting your children or abusing your children so that you'll
[21:46.620 --> 21:50.700]  give up and do whatever they want
[21:50.700 --> 21:55.500]  right i suggest you charge the lawyer and the wife
[21:55.500 --> 22:01.100]  with aggravated perjury and ask the judge to interview the child
[22:01.660 --> 22:06.300]  okay um i was thinking uh well i filed a bar grievance
[22:06.300 --> 22:14.140]  and uh i was thinking about uh hitting them with a tort for
[22:14.140 --> 22:22.220]  libel and uh when i was liable is is nothing
[22:22.220 --> 22:25.260]  they will keep you in a civil suit for the next
[22:25.260 --> 22:32.700]  five to six years over the liable it won't be you need this adjudicated
[22:32.700 --> 22:39.260]  you need this addressed right charge these guys criminals charge
[22:39.260 --> 22:45.740]  your wife criminally so um i was
[22:45.740 --> 22:51.820]  you know since it wasn't like uh posted in a newspaper or something like that
[22:51.820 --> 22:56.860]  um i was unsure of what to put for the damages
[22:56.860 --> 23:00.940]  they post they put this in a public record
[23:00.940 --> 23:07.980]  right i can go to the court and they'll have to show me that record
[23:07.980 --> 23:14.140]  she they have this is a the lowest trick they can pull because when a
[23:14.140 --> 23:20.700]  child is actually abused nobody takes it serious
[23:20.700 --> 23:26.300]  because every time they make that accusation
[23:26.300 --> 23:29.980]  this judge hears this in most every case that he addresses
[23:29.980 --> 23:33.420]  it's a standard procedure to accuse the the
[23:33.420 --> 23:37.180]  the male of abusing the children it's just what they do
[23:37.180 --> 23:42.460]  we've talked about it on the show before so
[23:42.460 --> 23:47.660]  charge them criminally this is aggravated perjury
[23:47.660 --> 23:53.900]  have you bar grieve the lawyer yes i just mailed one out uh
[23:53.900 --> 23:58.380]  i haven't found a way to do it like by fax or whatever
[23:58.380 --> 24:02.300]  so i mailed one out i think the day before yesterday
[24:02.300 --> 24:09.900]  and uh i um i'm not exactly sure what rules
[24:09.900 --> 24:13.340]  he got you know off the top of my head but uh
[24:13.340 --> 24:20.620]  i definitely went after him for um okay one two
[24:20.620 --> 24:25.180]  c and eight four b those are the rules i had him for
[24:25.180 --> 24:31.180]  and uh basically uh he knowingly assisted by it and
[24:31.180 --> 24:34.300]  conduct that he knew was illegal and fraudulent
[24:34.300 --> 24:41.420]  and then the other one he engaged in conduct involving dishonesty fraud
[24:41.420 --> 24:48.300]  okay did he did he do all all of this in one action yeah
[24:48.300 --> 24:55.180]  yeah okay then one point the next the next time he files a motion or a
[24:55.180 --> 24:58.700]  pleading or the next time he makes a statement
[24:58.700 --> 25:04.540]  in court that you disagree with bar grieving again
[25:04.540 --> 25:09.420]  but you want your bar grievances a week or two apart
[25:09.420 --> 25:37.740]  bar grieving i can't hear you
[25:37.740 --> 25:48.140]  not sure what happened
[25:48.140 --> 26:09.100]  okay
[26:48.140 --> 27:05.100]  Okay, we are back. This is the rule of law radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain.
[27:05.100 --> 27:09.700]  We did just have a little bit of trouble with Randy's computer and he will be right back
[27:09.700 --> 27:18.460]  with us. But this is the 15th of June, 2023. And I noticed that we were talking with Earl
[27:18.460 --> 27:25.660]  in Michigan. Earl, I didn't hear yet what you have got going on there. Randy is having
[27:25.660 --> 27:30.340]  some technical difficulties and he'll be back in a moment. Would you like to catch me up?
[27:30.340 --> 27:43.260]  Yeah, sure. So I initiated a custody case and in the answer from the opposing party,
[27:43.260 --> 27:55.180]  one of their points was ostensibly claiming that I was abusing my daughter in a very misleading,
[27:55.180 --> 28:03.660]  fraudulent way. And I was thinking about going after the lawyer for libel and Randy suggested
[28:03.660 --> 28:15.680]  aggravated perjury. Yeah, libel is a suit of its own where you're suing the lawyer civilly
[28:15.680 --> 28:23.900]  for damages. There's nothing wrong with that. If you do aggravated perjury, that's something
[28:23.900 --> 28:28.100]  that's more maintainable for you. And I don't know if that might be why he's suggesting
[28:28.100 --> 28:33.100]  that, but it's a criminal offense. So it's a lot simpler on your end. You don't have
[28:33.100 --> 28:37.260]  to maintain it through the courts. You don't have to deal with motions and hearing dates
[28:37.260 --> 28:42.500]  or anything. All you do, you write up the criminal complaint, you say, he did this,
[28:42.500 --> 28:50.060]  this and that. You borrow straight from the language of the legislators who have said
[28:50.060 --> 28:55.980]  word for word, this is what aggravated perjury is. If somebody does this and this and this.
[28:55.980 --> 29:00.780]  So you take that same language, copy and paste it into your criminal complaint and you match
[29:00.780 --> 29:08.820]  up the facts with that language. And now you've got a criminal complaint. You're done. You
[29:08.820 --> 29:14.000]  pull the pin, you lob the grenade and you don't have to maintain that through the courts.
[29:14.000 --> 29:20.180]  It has its effect on him without you having to kind of do two dances at once. You're in
[29:20.180 --> 29:25.980]  the middle of defending yourself against something, right? In the court.
[29:25.980 --> 29:32.660]  So I initiate, I'm the plaintiff, but yeah, I'm just trying to parent my kids.
[29:32.660 --> 29:41.380]  Yeah, I hear you. Boy, that's messy. Family law is just the worst. I hate it. So many
[29:41.380 --> 29:46.780]  families getting messed up that way. Well, we are about to go to sponsors legitimately
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[33:24.500 --> 33:43.180]  Okay, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain, and we
[33:43.180 --> 33:50.060]  are talking with Earl in Michigan. Earl, you were talking about your family law situation,
[33:50.060 --> 33:56.060]  and man, I'm so sorry that you're having to deal with that. It's just the worst. Lots
[33:56.060 --> 34:05.020]  of people have issues with traffic tickets or something, and it doesn't get to the ripping
[34:05.020 --> 34:07.420]  your family apart kind of thing.
[34:07.420 --> 34:16.620]  Okay, so we were talking when we went out about the difference between addressing this
[34:16.620 --> 34:28.020]  lawyer's wrongdoing civilly, like libel versus criminally, like aggravated perjury. So Randy,
[34:28.020 --> 34:29.820]  are you back in there now?
[34:29.820 --> 34:31.900]  I'm back in here.
[34:31.900 --> 34:34.060]  All right.
[34:34.060 --> 34:43.140]  This is really, really dirty pool. This is a lawyer standard approach. You really need
[34:43.140 --> 34:49.740]  to let the judge know this is horse manure. And the way to do that is to go after this
[34:49.740 --> 34:56.460]  lawyer for aggravated perjury and let them bring that daughter in and prove up their
[34:56.460 --> 35:02.500]  claims. If they can't prove up their claims, then you need sanctions against the lawyer,
[35:02.500 --> 35:05.780]  and you sue the lawyer personally for malpractice.
[35:05.780 --> 35:12.420]  Okay. That sounds like a good plan.
[35:12.420 --> 35:18.860]  This defense is a good, effective offense. If, Bubba, you want to fight, I'll give you
[35:18.860 --> 35:21.620]  a fight you won't believe.
[35:21.620 --> 35:22.620]  Right?
[35:22.620 --> 35:28.420]  Yeah, and they're typically not expecting that. When they come to court and they see
[35:28.420 --> 35:34.980]  that they're the lawyer and you're not, they're not expecting you to push back at all. So
[35:34.980 --> 35:38.940]  you come after them, it means something.
[35:38.940 --> 35:46.780]  Yeah. And Randy, before you went out, you were talking about basing out the fire grievances
[35:46.780 --> 35:51.260]  a couple of weeks. Is that so they treat them separately?
[35:51.260 --> 35:56.660]  Yes. If you put them all together, they'll treat it as one and dismiss them all at once.
[35:56.660 --> 36:06.620]  They're going to dismiss them all no matter what. And we expect that. But they're insurance
[36:06.620 --> 36:12.420]  carriers. It's the insurance carriers that they got to worry about. They're not going
[36:12.420 --> 36:22.000]  to dismiss them. So you space them apart by a week, and then the insurance carriers will
[36:22.000 --> 36:28.100]  consider each one of them as a separate grievance. Stack them up.
[36:28.100 --> 36:35.500]  Yeah. I ain't saying a week. It's different in different states. How much time it is before...
[36:35.500 --> 36:41.220]  The way you can find out is go to Michigan's... There's a review board. There's some rules
[36:41.220 --> 36:47.060]  that the state has laid out for their review board. And it will say in rule number whatever,
[36:47.060 --> 36:53.420]  2.1, and it's going to say that they have their triage team has to handle each one of
[36:53.420 --> 36:58.380]  these and categorize it within X number of days. So whatever that is, add one day to
[36:58.380 --> 37:03.420]  it and you could just like clockwork, roll them out on your calendar.
[37:03.420 --> 37:15.140]  Now, in the one I mailed this week, I only put two rule violations in this grievance.
[37:15.140 --> 37:18.980]  And I... Oh, man. You could have made two grievances
[37:18.980 --> 37:22.860]  out of that. Well, there's more rules that he violated.
[37:22.860 --> 37:26.660]  I'm not sure off the top of my head, but... Well, good.
[37:26.660 --> 37:33.940]  They're pretty much... I put 1, 2, C, and 8, 4, B. And I know there's at least one
[37:33.940 --> 37:41.340]  or two other ones. So can I do multiple grievances faced apart for the same occurrence? Would
[37:41.340 --> 37:45.820]  that be wise? Good question.
[37:45.820 --> 37:50.180]  I don't think it makes any difference about what you can do because they ignore them all
[37:50.180 --> 37:55.020]  anyway. Or they write you back a little letter that says that, well, this doesn't arise to
[37:55.020 --> 38:00.460]  the level of misconduct. We're treating this as an inquiry. We've dismissed it, whatever.
[38:00.460 --> 38:04.220]  And they send you back something that makes you feel like you failed. But they always
[38:04.220 --> 38:14.100]  do that. So just report what you need to report. Just always be truthful and put it out there,
[38:14.100 --> 38:18.500]  spacing out so that they can have the maximum effect. That's all you can really do.
[38:18.500 --> 38:24.980]  Yeah. It is the insurance company where their problem arises. The insurance company does
[38:24.980 --> 38:34.960]  not care if the bar finds them valid or not because they know the bar tosses all of them.
[38:34.960 --> 38:42.220]  So the only way for them to gauge their level of risk is by the numbers. And I need to comment
[38:42.220 --> 38:55.180]  here. The agent for the insurance carrier, he's a scoundrel. His purpose is to charge
[38:55.180 --> 39:00.220]  his client as much as possible and avoid any claims.
[39:00.220 --> 39:03.780]  Wait, wait. Is he a lawyer too?
[39:03.780 --> 39:07.620]  No, generally not. He's an insurance agent.
[39:07.620 --> 39:09.780]  But you just described, okay, nevermind.
[39:09.780 --> 39:17.300]  Yeah, so he's insurance. They're as bad as lawyers. So we seek the insurance agent on
[39:17.300 --> 39:27.300]  the lawyer. He don't care if it's not valid. Gives him an opportunity to raise the premium.
[39:27.300 --> 39:33.100]  And that's an opportunity he's not going to pass up. And if they get a grievance, they
[39:33.100 --> 39:39.900]  have to notify their insurance carrier because if they subsequently get sued over the content
[39:39.900 --> 39:46.380]  of the grievance and they haven't notified the insurance company, they're not covered.
[39:46.380 --> 39:57.340]  So they have to tell on themselves. So grieve them quick, grieve them often, except space
[39:57.340 --> 40:06.620]  them out a week or so, so they don't get lumped together. This lawyer wants to play hardball,
[40:06.620 --> 40:14.980]  introduce him to the deep end of the pool or some other mixed metaphor.
[40:14.980 --> 40:23.420]  In this criminal complaint that I'm going to file against this lawyer, do you have any
[40:23.420 --> 40:30.420]  other charges or crimes that you could think of that may apply? Or do you think just aggravated
[40:30.420 --> 40:34.540]  injury is great enough?
[40:34.540 --> 40:42.280]  There probably are. I'd have to read Michigan law. If it was in Texas, I could call this
[40:42.280 --> 40:53.340]  obstruction of justice. You'd have to read the penal code. You need to read it anyway.
[40:53.340 --> 40:58.540]  You need to read the penal code and the criminal procedure code. They're not that big. You
[40:58.540 --> 41:06.620]  read them twice, you'll know them better than they do. We had Ken from Kansas, he's
[41:06.620 --> 41:15.340]  dropped off. I hope he calls back. Because we gave him the homework to read the codes
[41:15.340 --> 41:22.580]  and the last time he called in, he was reading the codes. If you read those codes, you call
[41:22.580 --> 41:25.700]  back and we'll have a whole different conversation.
[41:25.700 --> 41:32.580]  Now, this is family law, but those guys, they violate laws all the time, especially when
[41:32.580 --> 41:41.300]  they're dealing with the court. And when they misrepresent facts or law to the court, they
[41:41.300 --> 41:51.300]  become very vulnerable. The lawyer is your low hanging fruit. He is terrified of that
[41:51.300 --> 42:00.500]  judge. His problem is, is you're not terrified of the judge. Since you're in there pro se,
[42:00.500 --> 42:10.020]  you expect the judge to rule against you out of hand every turn. You have to expect it.
[42:10.020 --> 42:17.380]  You can't expect to win your case in the trial court. You win your case in the appellate
[42:17.380 --> 42:25.380]  court. Your only purpose in the trial court is to set the record for appeal. Have you
[42:25.380 --> 42:29.700]  been through Dr. Graves' Jurisdictionary?
[42:29.700 --> 42:32.180]  Yes, I have.
[42:32.180 --> 42:38.300]  Good. All right then. Now, okay, now you got the tools. Those are the tools you need to
[42:38.300 --> 42:47.700]  beat him up with. Now, it's a matter of getting your head in the right place. You are the
[42:47.700 --> 42:55.060]  most powerful individual in the courthouse. You're the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[42:55.060 --> 43:03.940]  And the reason is you're nobody. You're not a clerk. You're not a bailiff, a prosecutor,
[43:03.940 --> 43:15.140]  a judge or a lawyer. They are all public servants. Even the lawyer is bound to the court. Lawyer
[43:15.140 --> 43:21.260]  is bound to the court more than anybody because he is absolutely terrified of that judge.
[43:21.260 --> 43:28.580]  The judge can sanction him at the drop of a hat. If the lawyer files a motion or a pleading
[43:28.580 --> 43:37.500]  and he has any case law in it, read the case law. They are always screwing up the case
[43:37.500 --> 43:38.500]  law.
[43:38.500 --> 43:42.180]  Yeah, they put it in there and they think nobody's going to look at it. They've misapplied
[43:42.180 --> 43:47.140]  it. They've quoted something that's not on point. Yeah.
[43:47.140 --> 43:54.180]  And move the sanctions. Sanctions terrify lawyers. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Felton,
[43:54.180 --> 44:00.180]  you have our radio. We'll be right back.
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[47:01.620 --> 47:22.780]  Okay, we are back. This is the Rule of Law Radio for Andy Kelton. I'm Brett Fountain,
[47:22.780 --> 47:28.020]  and we're talking with Earl in Michigan. So Earl, when we went out, we were talking about
[47:28.020 --> 47:36.940]  sanctions and how the lawyers are really scared because the judges can, for any reason, for
[47:36.940 --> 47:45.740]  no reason, just decide on a whim to sanction the lawyers. And it's true, they can. The
[47:45.740 --> 47:50.880]  judge could do that. They usually don't, but it's like Russian roulette. They don't know
[47:50.880 --> 47:55.980]  if the judge is going to do that to them. So when you move for sanctions, it gets all of
[47:55.980 --> 48:04.060]  them tight. And I was just thinking about this over the break. It just occurred to me.
[48:04.060 --> 48:11.060]  I recently moved for sanctions against some, on the opposing counsel, there was lawyers
[48:11.060 --> 48:21.580]  defending lawyers. And I moved for sanctions against the ones who are defending, right?
[48:21.580 --> 48:27.060]  And the defendants themselves. And I just thought about it. The defendants themselves
[48:27.060 --> 48:35.580]  being lawyers, why would I be asking for sanctions for all of them? Defendants and their counsel.
[48:35.580 --> 48:40.140]  Because those defendants knew better. They should have grabbed their attorneys by the
[48:40.140 --> 48:44.700]  neck and said, don't you dare do that. And they didn't. They just let them go ahead
[48:44.700 --> 48:49.620]  and abuse the process. And, oh, abusive process. That's another thing you may want to take
[48:49.620 --> 48:53.900]  a look at and see if Michigan has abusive process as a crime.
[48:53.900 --> 49:04.340]  All right. So there were, I got two more quick things. So, without getting into too many
[49:04.340 --> 49:11.180]  specifics, I filed my complaint. I served the other party with a process server and
[49:11.180 --> 49:22.220]  I did not get an answer in the 21 days. So I wrote up a order and a motion for default
[49:22.220 --> 49:30.460]  and I submitted them or I filed them. Two days passed a lot of time for them to answer.
[49:30.460 --> 49:39.100]  And then I scheduled a hearing and the hearing was like three weeks in the future. And I
[49:39.100 --> 49:48.780]  had been checking the docket online, you know, to look at the event. And I seen an answer
[49:48.780 --> 49:57.100]  magically appear in the system, you know, in the docket and the record, and it was predated.
[49:57.100 --> 50:06.260]  So I'm assuming that her lawyer, because he's like an hour away, faxed it over to the court
[50:06.260 --> 50:13.340]  because there's no online filing system in this county. And it just sat on the, you know,
[50:13.340 --> 50:21.140]  in their file or whatever for a few days before they actually entered it. So I canceled my
[50:21.140 --> 50:30.860]  hearing and I started doing my response. And when I, after I filed that and served them,
[50:30.860 --> 50:38.460]  I again began checking the events in the online system. And there was another thing in the
[50:38.460 --> 50:48.020]  system dated for like a week previously. And I just wanted to know, you know, I wasn't
[50:48.020 --> 50:55.140]  really sure if I could do something for timely filing, like, because I don't think it would
[50:55.140 --> 51:00.380]  really apply to the lawyer. It would more apply to the clerk that they're getting these
[51:00.380 --> 51:03.100]  documents and they're just hanging on to that.
[51:03.100 --> 51:10.740]  Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, something you need to check. If it was faxed, it will
[51:10.740 --> 51:18.420]  have a date that it was faxed. The date the lawyer put on the document, the document doesn't
[51:18.420 --> 51:20.420]  mean anything.
[51:20.420 --> 51:21.420]  Right.
[51:21.420 --> 51:25.300]  What's the date it was faxed?
[51:25.300 --> 51:33.980]  It was faxed for the day after the, the day they wrote it. So one day later, and that's
[51:33.980 --> 51:43.740]  the day that they entered it into the system. But that was still like a week before they
[51:43.740 --> 51:49.060]  actually entered into the online docket system for the event.
[51:49.060 --> 52:00.020]  Okay. So, so clearly the clerk had the documents a day after, you know, you've got until the,
[52:00.020 --> 52:05.420]  like in for most actions and like in the Fed, you've got until the Monday after the 20th
[52:05.420 --> 52:13.380]  day. But if you're a day or two late, the courts, they tend not to want to deny you
[52:13.380 --> 52:20.380]  your day in court. So they're not terribly strict with that. So if they got it in a day
[52:20.380 --> 52:29.020]  after you were, you were correct in withdrawing your, your emotion. But if the clerk has taken
[52:29.020 --> 52:36.100]  a week, that just may be standard. And it's, you're, you're, you're saying that the clerk
[52:36.100 --> 52:38.380]  didn't get it online.
[52:38.380 --> 52:39.380]  Yeah.
[52:39.380 --> 52:43.980]  Are they required to put it online?
[52:43.980 --> 52:50.980]  Well, see, I'm, I think they are. I'm not exactly sure on the rules for that. I haven't
[52:50.980 --> 52:57.220]  really looked into that specifically, but I did, I do know that every time I've brought
[52:57.220 --> 53:03.460]  a document in, it's appeared in the system that day, you know, within hours. So like
[53:03.460 --> 53:09.980]  my complaint, it showed up in the system immediately. My emotion, it showed up immediately when
[53:09.980 --> 53:16.980]  I scheduled a hearing, like all that stuff showed up immediately when I did it. But apparently
[53:16.980 --> 53:22.660]  it's different if I, cause I went in and I filed it rather than faxing it.
[53:22.660 --> 53:23.660]  Yeah.
[53:23.660 --> 53:24.660]  So
[53:24.660 --> 53:29.460]  If I want to check and see, because fax does take some additional effort on the clerk's
[53:29.460 --> 53:34.420]  part. And like you said, it might've just been sitting there. Check and see if those,
[53:34.420 --> 53:41.060]  the rules of that court allow faxing. Because a lot of them don't. They just say, you need
[53:41.060 --> 53:44.580]  to use our e-filing system or you need to bring in, you know, paper, you need to mail
[53:44.580 --> 53:49.900]  it. They're, they will limit the types of ways. You can't send it via carrier pigeon.
[53:49.900 --> 53:50.900]  So
[53:50.900 --> 53:51.900]  Yeah.
[53:51.900 --> 53:52.900]  They told me I
[53:52.900 --> 54:02.300]  If, if all of the lawyers are faxing their documents in, I'm just thinking of the logistics
[54:02.300 --> 54:07.500]  of you're in the clerk's office. You got all these lawyers faxing in all these motions
[54:07.500 --> 54:13.820]  and pleadings, got them stacked up next to the fax machine. And then you get a pro se
[54:13.820 --> 54:24.180]  come in and put one in your hand. This don't happen so often. And they probably don't have
[54:24.180 --> 54:28.420]  a stack of them they're going through. So you put it in their hand, they just take it
[54:28.420 --> 54:34.500]  and file it and process it. While somebody else is going through the stacks of motions
[54:34.500 --> 54:36.020]  that all the lawyers are sending in.
[54:36.020 --> 54:44.820]  You know, we'd like to go after them, but when you go after them, you need to have something
[54:44.820 --> 54:53.460]  good to go after them for. And one of the places I don't like to go after are the clerks.
[54:53.460 --> 55:01.700]  The clerks generally don't have a dog in your hunt and nobody likes it when you pick on
[55:01.700 --> 55:09.300]  the clerk. So only pick on the clerk if they're really being a problem.
[55:09.300 --> 55:16.580]  Yeah, plus they can be very helpful to you.
[55:16.580 --> 55:27.020]  If the clerks are especially helpful, send a letter to the judge thanking the clerk for
[55:27.020 --> 55:35.900]  his clerks for how helpful and how professional they've been. They don't get that stuff often.
[55:35.900 --> 55:43.460]  And they get one from a pro se and they never get them from lawyers. Tina is online, is
[55:43.460 --> 56:02.060]  on the board. Oh, that's Ted. Ted, don't you talk. I got you unmuted by mistake. There
[56:02.060 --> 56:11.140]  we go. Oops. I think I might have muted you after Brad unmuted you. Okay. Tina, tell him
[56:11.140 --> 56:17.380]  what happens when you have a problem with a clerk and then send a good letter in.
[56:17.380 --> 56:26.500]  You get amazingly good service. But first I had to send in a professional conduct complaint
[56:26.500 --> 56:36.060]  about how they were treating me. And everything changed after I did that. And then once they
[56:36.060 --> 56:42.100]  started, this particular clerk started being my best friend and helping me and being courteous.
[56:42.100 --> 56:50.460]  I sent in a professional conduct compliment letter and it's got even better since then.
[56:50.460 --> 56:54.060]  Awesome. Good idea.
[56:54.060 --> 57:00.060]  We are, we're pro se's and you know, I talk about on this show, I preach to the church
[57:00.060 --> 57:06.940]  of the malcontents. We're mostly upset about system and we feel abused and put upon by
[57:06.940 --> 57:18.060]  public officials. With that said, we are wise to pick our battles very carefully. We may
[57:18.060 --> 57:24.500]  be upset at all of them, but they don't need to know that. The only one that needs to know
[57:24.500 --> 57:33.340]  we're upset at them is the one that's in our crosshairs. If we can smooth and con the other
[57:33.340 --> 57:43.300]  ones into thinking we're really nice guys, less problems we wind up having to deal with.
[57:43.300 --> 57:51.500]  I'm a combat veteran. In combat, you have to pick your battles real careful and you
[57:51.500 --> 57:59.540]  be real good to the natives, the locals, because you don't want them upset at you because they'll
[57:59.540 --> 58:05.380]  give the bad guys the information they need to come and get you. Treat this like combat
[58:05.380 --> 58:14.100]  and pick your battles real careful. Oh, we've got 40 seconds left. Okay. That makes sense?
[58:14.100 --> 58:22.740]  Guys, I'm going to get off of here. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you
[58:22.740 --> 58:30.100]  for calling. We're about to go to our sponsors. Tina, I'll leave you unmuted because you're
[58:30.100 --> 58:37.540]  going to be up next. No, I better mute you or Debra be upset at me. Hang on. We do have
[58:37.540 --> 58:42.900]  some room on the board. She always blames me for that off the cliff and not muting and
[58:42.900 --> 58:50.380]  it's always Brett's fault. Hang on. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:25.980 --> 01:03:51.980]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:51.980 --> 01:04:12.300]  Go ahead, Tina. Debra's going to get me. Somebody called me when I was doing a radio
[01:04:12.300 --> 01:04:26.740]  show. Okay. So I just have a really quick thing tonight. As you know, I've been dealing
[01:04:26.740 --> 01:04:35.180]  with getting public information request records from the Texas Secretary of State regarding
[01:04:35.180 --> 01:04:45.380]  a notary complaint that I filed back in 2016 and 2017. And it turns out that there was
[01:04:45.380 --> 01:04:51.660]  a lot of information going back and forth between the attorney that I'm dealing with
[01:04:51.660 --> 01:05:01.420]  right now and an attorney for One West Bank that this notary worked for as a default escalation
[01:05:01.420 --> 01:05:10.260]  specialist. And yet she was notarizing substitution of trustee documents and other things. A little
[01:05:10.260 --> 01:05:16.940]  bit of a conflict of interest, I would think, but apparently Texas says that's okay. However,
[01:05:16.940 --> 01:05:24.820]  the records show there's conversations and documents, so emails and letters going back
[01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:32.260]  and forth, but they're all missing from the folder. They claim they did a very diligent
[01:05:32.260 --> 01:05:39.460]  search and all they could find was what they sent me, which was my complaint and letters
[01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:48.820]  from the investigator to the notary and records of this phone call where after the phone call
[01:05:48.820 --> 01:05:57.060]  from the attorney, they drastically reduced the educational reprimand from having to do
[01:05:57.060 --> 01:06:04.380]  the full notary exam and get a perfect score plus watch the notary video to only watching
[01:06:04.380 --> 01:06:13.980]  the video. Yet they detailed all the things she did wrong. And so I've sent a second,
[01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:19.940]  then I got, after talking with this person at the secretary of state's office, I guess
[01:06:19.940 --> 01:06:27.420]  she got a little bit rattled and I got an email from the council stating that they really
[01:06:27.420 --> 01:06:33.980]  had done a diligent search and no more records could be found. But if I wanted to put in
[01:06:33.980 --> 01:06:44.020]  another request with more specific detail, I could to them. So I did that today. And
[01:06:44.020 --> 01:06:52.060]  my question is to you, what responsibilities does the secretary of state's office, a notary
[01:06:52.060 --> 01:06:59.140]  division or any division, what are their responsibilities for ensuring that documents and complaint
[01:06:59.140 --> 01:07:06.620]  folders are complete at all times? Because it's only the very damning evidence that
[01:07:06.620 --> 01:07:09.380]  is missing from this folder.
[01:07:09.380 --> 01:07:18.860]  Okay, this is serious business. Tamper with the government document is a class A misdemeanor
[01:07:18.860 --> 01:07:28.300]  in Texas. I would want to know who was responsible for these documents, in whose custody were
[01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:37.060]  they? And what did they do with them to preserve them in accordance with their requirement
[01:07:37.060 --> 01:07:39.620]  under the open records act?
[01:07:39.620 --> 01:07:46.180]  Maybe you can talk to an IT director. Anybody who's a director has a responsibility to
[01:07:46.180 --> 01:07:50.700]  respond to your records requests. And I'm just thinking about audit trail. I'm thinking
[01:07:50.700 --> 01:07:58.140]  about access logs. I'm thinking about who has been editing this? Who is it that we redacted
[01:07:58.140 --> 01:08:01.260]  this stuff that you really need? Because they know that that's the part that would really
[01:08:01.260 --> 01:08:06.940]  make them look bad. Who was logged in? On what date and time with which username? And
[01:08:06.940 --> 01:08:11.260]  those are records that you can ask from the IT director.
[01:08:11.260 --> 01:08:19.620]  Okay, so what I asked for today, I said, please elucidate with specificity what the rules
[01:08:19.620 --> 01:08:25.060]  are that govern the safekeeping of files and their content at the secretary of state's
[01:08:25.060 --> 01:08:33.660]  office and all of its divisions. And then I put specifically what I was requesting,
[01:08:33.660 --> 01:08:39.620]  and I put I require to receive a copy of Ms. Ray's written response to my complaint, including
[01:08:39.620 --> 01:08:46.180]  the affidavit that she was required to produce and her change of address. Then I asked for
[01:08:46.180 --> 01:08:53.860]  the stuff from the attorney and the notary logs. And I put I require to receive a copy
[01:08:53.860 --> 01:09:01.460]  of the notes, the call logs, and or recordings of the call between the attorney and the investigator
[01:09:01.460 --> 01:09:09.860]  and any other electronic communications, including emails between Ms. Zwecki and attorneys McGinnity
[01:09:09.860 --> 01:09:17.220]  and Campanose. So you're saying I should try to ask for the speech with an IT director?
[01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:22.540]  Yeah, because the director has a responsibility to respond to you about those records that
[01:09:22.540 --> 01:09:31.220]  he has. Okay. Those records are not going to be what everybody else typically thinks
[01:09:31.220 --> 01:09:35.900]  of as records. They're thinking of an eight and a half by 11 sheet of paper or maybe a
[01:09:35.900 --> 01:09:42.660]  scanned version of it. And they're not thinking of server access logs. And that's something
[01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:51.420]  that when I think about who done it, when I think about how did this complete record
[01:09:51.420 --> 01:09:58.220]  with all the damning evidence deleted, how did that happen? Who did it? When? That's
[01:09:58.220 --> 01:10:03.780]  the kind of records that they're electronic records. They're not in, you know, paper
[01:10:03.780 --> 01:10:11.060]  form or even scanned. But these are logs. These are in on some server file system. And
[01:10:11.060 --> 01:10:15.060]  so I would be reaching out to the IT director for that.
[01:10:15.060 --> 01:10:22.660]  And Brett, could you write her up a request that sounds very technical?
[01:10:22.660 --> 01:10:26.940]  Yeah, because I'm not technical.
[01:10:26.940 --> 01:10:29.860]  Fartina, I'll do that.
[01:10:29.860 --> 01:10:40.900]  I'll put it in the request to the council and ask for it.
[01:10:40.900 --> 01:10:49.940]  That will probably cause a bit of constipation or anal restriction, however you want to address
[01:10:49.940 --> 01:10:59.100]  it. When you start asking these kinds of questions, someone messed with these records and they
[01:10:59.100 --> 01:11:03.940]  probably hadn't considered the fact that with electronic records, you always leave
[01:11:03.940 --> 01:11:12.420]  tracks. That's what I'm taking on with the traffic ticket. She was supposed to send me
[01:11:12.420 --> 01:11:20.620]  two emails that she sent court dates and I never got an email or a letter telling me
[01:11:20.620 --> 01:11:26.580]  to be there. I don't think she expected me to come in and ask her to check the server
[01:11:26.580 --> 01:11:35.060]  logs to show me the server logs so I can tell if there's actually an email sent or not.
[01:11:35.060 --> 01:11:41.620]  Because the prosecutor told her to go find them and she couldn't. She found one that
[01:11:41.620 --> 01:11:49.420]  I had gotten, but the one I claimed I didn't get, the two, she didn't find those. I don't
[01:11:49.420 --> 01:11:55.100]  think she expected that. And that's what this would do to them, kind of catch them flat
[01:11:55.100 --> 01:11:56.820]  footed.
[01:11:56.820 --> 01:12:01.660]  I'm wondering if they will go and talk with these attorneys again, because remember one
[01:12:01.660 --> 01:12:11.340]  with bank had and still has a big presence in Texas. And of course, we met with Mr. Mnuchin,
[01:12:11.340 --> 01:12:17.140]  who was the CEO, and they messed that up. So I'm wondering if there's something going
[01:12:17.140 --> 01:12:22.780]  on where they're saying, why is she asking for this? Do you know she's asking for this?
[01:12:22.780 --> 01:12:29.020]  And she was gonna say that, yeah, she's trying to sue me. So maybe there's some stuff going
[01:12:29.020 --> 01:12:35.420]  on right now where they're saying they've told them, don't give them this information.
[01:12:35.420 --> 01:12:43.580]  That'll be interesting to see. You want to find out, and once you find out who messed
[01:12:43.580 --> 01:12:54.820]  with the data from the logs, then whoever got told to do this gets put on the dime.
[01:12:54.820 --> 01:12:57.700]  And they're likely to squawk like a spring chicken.
[01:12:57.700 --> 01:13:03.820]  Especially if they don't walk there anymore.
[01:13:03.820 --> 01:13:06.620]  Don't care if they work there or not, we'll find them.
[01:13:06.620 --> 01:13:12.060]  They thought getting out of there would save their hide.
[01:13:12.060 --> 01:13:17.100]  The only thing it does for them is if they're not working for the department anymore, then
[01:13:17.100 --> 01:13:22.780]  they don't get the legal counsel.
[01:13:22.780 --> 01:13:24.580]  They're on their own.
[01:13:24.580 --> 01:13:29.780]  I have to find the investigator. There's only one person with her name that I have found
[01:13:29.780 --> 01:13:35.580]  in the whole country. And it makes no mention of her being in Texas, no mention of her being
[01:13:35.580 --> 01:13:39.340]  with this bank, all the records I could find.
[01:13:39.340 --> 01:13:47.220]  Send her name to me. I'll send it to Joe Esquivel, see what he can find. He's a private
[01:13:47.220 --> 01:13:54.740]  investigator. He has access to computers we don't have access to.
[01:13:54.740 --> 01:14:02.060]  Okay, that would be great. Because she was the one who did all this communication and
[01:14:02.060 --> 01:14:09.260]  reduced that notary education reprimand. And I was never told that it was reduced to like
[01:14:09.260 --> 01:14:15.660]  nothing. I was told she was given this reprimand. She had to do this. And then it all of a sudden
[01:14:15.660 --> 01:14:21.740]  changed after this mysterious phone call from the bank's attorney.
[01:14:21.740 --> 01:14:25.420]  You also want to see her financial records.
[01:14:25.420 --> 01:14:30.660]  Oh, yes. That would be good.
[01:14:30.660 --> 01:14:33.740]  Just asking for them should be enough.
[01:14:33.740 --> 01:14:42.340]  Okay, well, I want to go to other callers. And Brad, if you would send me up whatever
[01:14:42.340 --> 01:14:46.460]  sentence or paragraph that is and I'll put it into a letter and I'll get it sent off
[01:14:46.460 --> 01:14:52.740]  as soon as you send it to me. Because I never would be able to make it that technical.
[01:14:52.740 --> 01:14:54.740]  I'll be happy to.
[01:14:54.740 --> 01:14:57.740]  I think I'm smarter than I am.
[01:14:57.740 --> 01:15:05.020]  Okay, well, they may think you're smarter than you are, but they're not going to think
[01:15:05.020 --> 01:15:10.460]  you're meaner than you are.
[01:15:10.460 --> 01:15:16.460]  I haven't used the words churlish on them yet.
[01:15:16.460 --> 01:15:17.460]  You're working up to it.
[01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:21.420]  I may have to. I'm working up to it. Anyway, thank you so much. I'll let you get back
[01:15:21.420 --> 01:15:24.860]  to other callers. I appreciate your help.
[01:15:24.860 --> 01:15:34.100]  Okay, thank you, Miss Tina. Okay, now we're going to go to Ted in California. Hello, Ted.
[01:15:34.100 --> 01:15:39.580]  What do you have for us today? You're going to give us another lecture on the joys of
[01:15:39.580 --> 01:15:44.740]  traffic in California.
[01:15:44.740 --> 01:15:53.380]  I think I covered it pretty well last time and people can go to the archives. You know,
[01:15:53.380 --> 01:16:03.780]  I mean, we do want to, we do want to crow about the win on the appeal. And that was,
[01:16:03.780 --> 01:16:11.820]  you know, because it's very difficult to win an appeal. But before we get to that, Randy,
[01:16:11.820 --> 01:16:18.780]  your calling with the divorce case, I think you should charge them with conspiracy and
[01:16:18.780 --> 01:16:31.580]  that may sever that representation because they'll have to get separate lawyers.
[01:16:31.580 --> 01:16:43.180]  That is an interesting idea. Charge them with conspiring one with the other to obstruct
[01:16:43.180 --> 01:16:44.180]  justice.
[01:16:44.180 --> 01:16:52.580]  That is what they're doing. And I'm sure the lawyer took the statement from the client.
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[01:19:31.180 --> 01:19:51.980]  Okay, we are back with Randy Kelton with Fountain Dude Law Radio in McLaughlin, D.P. in California.
[01:19:51.980 --> 01:19:54.500]  And where were we, Brett?
[01:19:54.500 --> 01:20:03.380]  He was making a, the lawyer was making a statement to his client, I believe. Ted, you there?
[01:20:03.380 --> 01:20:05.100]  Yes, yes.
[01:20:05.100 --> 01:20:09.860]  I think you were just about to tell us about a lawyer making a statement to a client.
[01:20:09.860 --> 01:20:22.500]  Yeah, I think that whatever is going on between the client and the lawyer is a conspiracy.
[01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:29.260]  It could be a conspiracy to accuse of a heinous crime. Now, that's not a criminal charge,
[01:20:29.260 --> 01:20:32.100]  but I think you could find some criminal charges.
[01:20:32.100 --> 01:20:40.420]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. If they're accusing someone of a crime they know that he did not
[01:20:40.420 --> 01:20:45.940]  commit, that is a criminal charge. That's obstruction of justice.
[01:20:45.940 --> 01:20:52.340]  Yeah, in addition to civilly, that's a malicious prosecution, right?
[01:20:52.340 --> 01:20:53.820]  And criminal conspiracy.
[01:20:53.820 --> 01:20:58.380]  Yeah, a frivolous prosecution.
[01:20:58.380 --> 01:21:10.540]  But hold on, guys. First off, they're making an accusation in a pleading that that accusation
[01:21:10.540 --> 01:21:19.420]  that they're making is a heinous crime. Okay, it's despicable, heinous crime. And it's such
[01:21:19.420 --> 01:21:28.180]  so in our society that most people are believed guilty of it until they prove they're innocent.
[01:21:28.180 --> 01:21:30.180]  And so, take that—
[01:21:30.180 --> 01:21:36.460]  Well, reporting crime is not a crime. But for them to know in advance that they're
[01:21:36.460 --> 01:21:40.700]  doing it falsely, now that's a problem.
[01:21:40.700 --> 01:21:48.460]  And that's the conspiracy. That's the conspiracy right there. They're conspiring to do this
[01:21:48.460 --> 01:21:54.540]  so that she gets full custody or gets her way in the court. And yes, it's a tactic.
[01:21:54.540 --> 01:22:05.060]  Out in California there are judges, when people do this, actually take the children away from
[01:22:05.060 --> 01:22:17.340]  the person making the accusation, at least during the case as it goes through the court.
[01:22:17.340 --> 01:22:23.260]  But I'm just saying that—and Randy already spoke that this is a tactic that's used a
[01:22:23.260 --> 01:22:31.980]  lot, and it's across the country, and everybody does this. Or a lot of people do this. Horrible
[01:22:31.980 --> 01:22:40.260]  things do to the family, horrible things do to the kids. But I come back to that I'd
[01:22:40.260 --> 01:22:48.100]  get a charge of conspiracy between that lawyer and the client, and then come up with what
[01:22:48.100 --> 01:22:58.660]  they're conspiring to do as it applies to the law of that state.
[01:22:58.660 --> 01:23:05.740]  So if they're charged with conspiring with one another, you mentioned earlier that they
[01:23:05.740 --> 01:23:13.180]  each had to get a separate lawyer. What is the foundation for that?
[01:23:13.180 --> 01:23:25.060]  Well, if they were charged criminally, if you could make a conspiracy charge that is
[01:23:25.060 --> 01:23:30.900]  a criminal charge, they would have to get separate lawyers.
[01:23:30.900 --> 01:23:31.900]  Why?
[01:23:31.900 --> 01:23:41.620]  Also, I can't remember why that is right now, but the technicality—
[01:23:41.620 --> 01:23:48.300]  That's a great technicality, by the way. If we force the lawyer to have to hire her—both
[01:23:48.300 --> 01:24:02.660]  of them have to hire another lawyer. I didn't ask Earl how old the child was.
[01:24:02.660 --> 01:24:05.900]  Yeah, that's important, too.
[01:24:05.900 --> 01:24:11.540]  Yeah. That would have been an important question to ask to determine whether or not she could
[01:24:11.540 --> 01:24:17.340]  be a credible witness in this issue.
[01:24:17.340 --> 01:24:25.100]  More than likely, they're young, younger, and that's why the mother did this.
[01:24:25.100 --> 01:24:30.900]  Because it sounds more heinous and the child's not old enough to rebut.
[01:24:30.900 --> 01:24:31.900]  Correct.
[01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:47.300]  Well, I know somebody personally connected with a case where the child, it does appear,
[01:24:47.300 --> 01:24:59.660]  was being abused from 7 to 13. Now, the situation came up in court as part of the divorce thing
[01:24:59.660 --> 01:25:05.300]  instead of having its own criminal complaint. But because it came up in court during the
[01:25:05.300 --> 01:25:09.420]  divorce proceedings, the judge just poo-pooed the whole thing and said, yeah, yeah, everybody
[01:25:09.420 --> 01:25:16.380]  always says this, and didn't treat it like it had any weight. That's how common it
[01:25:16.380 --> 01:25:17.380]  is.
[01:25:17.380 --> 01:25:29.980]  And look, they could go—even the child who's now 13, I believe they could go to the police
[01:25:29.980 --> 01:25:44.940]  department, make a criminal complaint if the person has been abused, and so that then makes
[01:25:44.940 --> 01:25:50.380]  a separate criminal case. But coming back to what I was thinking for this guy is that
[01:25:50.380 --> 01:25:58.140]  he needs to hit him with some charges to where they'd have to go get their own lawyers,
[01:25:58.140 --> 01:26:04.180]  and also making this—see, I don't think that the lawyer could continue to represent
[01:26:04.180 --> 01:26:16.220]  her in the divorce case if he puts out that they're conspiring against him at a criminal
[01:26:16.220 --> 01:26:22.260]  level, you know, making an accus—because what they're accusing him of is a heinous
[01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:38.140]  crime. So again, you'd have to look at the laws of that state and see what—an example
[01:26:38.140 --> 01:26:46.940]  would be in my case, the criminal case I had, when the prosecuting deputy attorney has me
[01:26:46.940 --> 01:26:51.840]  in the hallways talking to me, and then I bring up the fact that they put in writing
[01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:58.940]  that they wouldn't put me in jail if I dropped the civil lawsuit from my house. And he threatens
[01:26:58.940 --> 01:27:04.700]  me right there on the spot with, if you bring that up again, I'm going to add six more
[01:27:04.700 --> 01:27:13.700]  felony counts. Well, first off, he's not supposed to be talking to me directly. And
[01:27:13.700 --> 01:27:29.140]  by doing that, he's tampering with a witness and witness intimidation, just as an example.
[01:27:29.140 --> 01:27:35.260]  And those were the things that I put into the bar on that particular attorney. And by
[01:27:35.260 --> 01:27:41.540]  the way, yes, the bar is not going to do anything. And also, another suggestion for this guy,
[01:27:41.540 --> 01:27:49.260]  have other people that know him make the bar complaint, too, saying this is outrageous
[01:27:49.260 --> 01:27:53.940]  that this lawyer put this in this pleading, that they know this man personally, they know
[01:27:53.940 --> 01:28:03.260]  the family, they've been to the house, and this is not in his character or whatever.
[01:28:03.260 --> 01:28:08.020]  But the lawyer should have known—the lawyer didn't know investigation, just makes it—I
[01:28:08.020 --> 01:28:16.380]  imagine what happened here is he took a statement. He probably has a declaration from the client
[01:28:16.380 --> 01:28:20.260]  saying that she believes of the abuse, and then he put it in the—the lawyer put it
[01:28:20.260 --> 01:28:26.460]  in the pleading as well. That's probably how it's fashioned. And then when it comes
[01:28:26.460 --> 01:28:34.220]  to this whole thing about filing, how come the lawyer is not serving him all papers that
[01:28:34.220 --> 01:28:44.780]  are being filed with the court? He shouldn't have to be looking at a log of the court to
[01:28:44.780 --> 01:28:51.460]  see what papers are being filed by the other side. He should be getting personally served
[01:28:51.460 --> 01:28:58.260]  on all this. And he probably has the answers because he did say he's been through jurisdictionary.
[01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:02.500]  And then the same goes for—I don't know in Texas how they get away with saying that
[01:29:02.500 --> 01:29:09.260]  they sent you an email unless you accept email service, you know, that they can't call
[01:29:09.260 --> 01:29:12.660]  you to court or tell you have a court date via email.
[01:29:12.660 --> 01:29:19.380]  Yeah, they can. You just have to be noticed. It doesn't really say how you have to be
[01:29:19.380 --> 01:29:26.780]  noticed. I had people complain because they had to go down to the court. They went to
[01:29:26.780 --> 01:29:33.020]  the court and found out that they were summoned to a court hearing, but they hadn't been
[01:29:33.020 --> 01:29:38.460]  noticed. And they complained about it. And the judge said, well, how did you find out
[01:29:38.460 --> 01:29:44.420]  about it? Well, I was checking the record. He said, you have substantive notice. You
[01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:52.180]  really don't have a complaint. Hang on. Hang on. We're going to our sponsors, Randy
[01:29:52.180 --> 01:30:03.460]  Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio. We'll be right back.
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[01:33:30.500 --> 01:33:59.500]  Okay, we are back. Ranch Kelk Breath.
[01:33:59.500 --> 01:34:10.060]  I just unplugged my mic. Oops. Rule of Law Radio. And on the break, Brett and I were
[01:34:10.060 --> 01:34:16.620]  talking about this issue. Now, Earl's a first time caller, and the last thing I want to
[01:34:16.620 --> 01:34:29.300]  do is disparage Earl. And we know that lawyers use this all the time. But the problem is
[01:34:29.300 --> 01:34:41.260]  this. This is such a big deal for both parties. If the parent really is molesting the child,
[01:34:41.260 --> 01:34:53.420]  it's really a big deal. And the fact that lawyers accuse them out of hand lessens the
[01:34:53.420 --> 01:34:58.140]  impetus of the police and everybody else to take this serious.
[01:34:58.140 --> 01:35:04.820]  Yeah. It starts to be like the boy who cried wolf. But you can't afford to ignore it because
[01:35:04.820 --> 01:35:07.060]  the stakes are so high.
[01:35:07.060 --> 01:35:14.420]  Yeah, in both directions. If they're lying about the parent, you ruin the parent's life
[01:35:14.420 --> 01:35:20.840]  like this lawyer in Fort Worth that killed the judge in opposing counsel and then had
[01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:31.980]  them electrocute him or put him in the gas chamber. Plead guilty, refused to appeal because
[01:35:31.980 --> 01:35:40.460]  he ruined his life. So it's really, really a big deal. And how do we handle this? And
[01:35:40.460 --> 01:35:45.620]  all the time we're talking about this, I'm thinking, well, what if Earl's not what he
[01:35:45.620 --> 01:35:54.500]  claims to be? And here we're working to help the bad guy get away.
[01:35:54.500 --> 01:35:59.740]  But then again, if Earl is what he claims to be, then these people are trying to ruin
[01:35:59.740 --> 01:36:08.700]  his life. And we need to find some way to deal with this. This is the kind of thing
[01:36:08.700 --> 01:36:17.700]  that needs to get a thorough police investigation every time. And if it's found that the accusation
[01:36:17.700 --> 01:36:25.020]  is not true, whoever made that accusation should get hammered big time.
[01:36:25.020 --> 01:36:32.520]  Because this is hardest on the children. Now, I feel for Earl if he's innocent because it's
[01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:44.060]  hard on him. It taints him. And he's always damaged by it because once it's out there,
[01:36:44.060 --> 01:36:48.900]  there are people who will always believe that that's the case no matter how it's proven
[01:36:48.900 --> 01:37:00.700]  not to be. So he's stained by it. But on the off chance, he really is a bad guy. Now we've
[01:37:00.700 --> 01:37:10.620]  got the child being harmed by it. And for me, that's a bigger deal. So I'm a grandpa
[01:37:10.620 --> 01:37:15.940]  and it gives me the chills just thinking about it.
[01:37:15.940 --> 01:37:27.420]  This is really a hard one. When this kind of claim is made, it should get serious scrutiny.
[01:37:27.420 --> 01:37:38.740]  And whoever the bad guy is should get hammered big time. I just watched a YouTube video about
[01:37:38.740 --> 01:37:50.580]  a guy who killed his daughter's boyfriend who sold her to a sex slave ring. First he
[01:37:50.580 --> 01:37:56.540]  tracked him down, got his daughter back. Then he tracked down the boyfriend and beat him
[01:37:56.540 --> 01:38:10.060]  up and bashed his head in with a concrete block. So what do you do? The guy went to
[01:38:10.060 --> 01:38:19.380]  jail for a while but not as long as he could have. Is he really the bad guy? And how bad
[01:38:19.380 --> 01:38:29.220]  is he? They actually showed the one, I saw it live, where this karate instructor was
[01:38:29.220 --> 01:38:36.780]  molesting this boy and they brought him to New Orleans in the airport. This guy was standing
[01:38:36.780 --> 01:38:45.300]  by a phone and they walked by and he turned around and put one in the guy's temple. And
[01:38:45.300 --> 01:38:54.420]  he never spent any time in jail. So this is a hard subject and it makes me uncomfortable
[01:38:54.420 --> 01:39:02.700]  to have to deal with it but we really do need to deal with this. And for a lawyer who would,
[01:39:02.700 --> 01:39:10.940]  if the lawyer put his wife up to this, the lawyer should go to prison. Not just get disbarred
[01:39:10.940 --> 01:39:23.940]  but go to prison. This is heinous. And that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Ted, what's
[01:39:23.940 --> 01:39:27.460]  your opinion?
[01:39:27.460 --> 01:39:33.780]  I don't disagree with anything that you said. I just went on the premise, took the man at
[01:39:33.780 --> 01:39:34.780]  his word.
[01:39:34.780 --> 01:39:42.380]  I know, I know. We were all doing that and I want to take him at his word. That's our
[01:39:42.380 --> 01:39:51.340]  job here. At the end of the day, what we're doing is just examining the legal ramifications.
[01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:57.900]  So whether he's guilty or not guilty, that's really not the issue. You know, I have people
[01:39:57.900 --> 01:40:05.820]  call in, I got drunk and I had a wreck and they're trying to persecute me and they're
[01:40:05.820 --> 01:40:13.180]  picking on me. And I want to say they should throw you under the jail. But that's not what
[01:40:13.180 --> 01:40:23.860]  I'm here to do. I'm here to take that on face and address the legal issues. And I do recognize
[01:40:23.860 --> 01:40:34.100]  how hard this is because lawyers do use this to demonize fathers and ruin their lives.
[01:40:34.100 --> 01:40:42.020]  I have a personal friend who is struggling. He's divorced and his wife is turning the
[01:40:42.020 --> 01:40:54.260]  kids against him. And he's just beside himself. And all I could tell him was, be patient.
[01:40:54.260 --> 01:41:02.900]  Your children are young for a very short time. And whatever your wife tells them that poisons
[01:41:02.900 --> 01:41:08.540]  them against you, they'll get older and sort that out so long as you're always there for
[01:41:08.540 --> 01:41:21.580]  them, no matter what. And he was talking about, what is it when you give up all of your parental
[01:41:21.580 --> 01:41:31.540]  rights, there's a term for it. He was wondering, what are you saying? Terminate? Yeah, I think
[01:41:31.540 --> 01:41:42.380]  he had another word for it. But I wanted to say to him, don't. Whatever your wife is
[01:41:42.380 --> 01:41:53.500]  doing, deal with it. Whatever you do, do not abandon those children. And terminating your
[01:41:53.500 --> 01:42:00.940]  parental rights to them, they will perceive it as abandoning them. Yeah, you and your
[01:42:00.940 --> 01:42:07.780]  wife are having difficulties, but the kids didn't do that. That was you and your wife.
[01:42:07.780 --> 01:42:14.700]  The kids did not choose you to be their parents. They got what they got. My daughter once set
[01:42:14.700 --> 01:42:21.060]  me down and told me that every good thing that ever happened to her happened because
[01:42:21.060 --> 01:42:29.980]  of her. And every bad thing that ever happened to her happened because of me. Man, that was
[01:42:29.980 --> 01:42:42.100]  hard. But all I could do was sit there and keep my mouth shut. I thought I knew it wasn't
[01:42:42.100 --> 01:42:49.220]  true, but it didn't matter. It's what she believed. And I told my wife about it. And
[01:42:49.220 --> 01:42:58.580]  I said, she did not pick me for her father. She got what she got. I became the father
[01:42:58.580 --> 01:43:07.100]  and begat this child. This child owes me nothing, but I do owe this child. And I will always
[01:43:07.100 --> 01:43:15.460]  be there for her. It doesn't matter how much she hates me. And I did tell the wife, she
[01:43:15.460 --> 01:43:21.300]  has two children of her own, and she will wind up having to make the kinds of decisions
[01:43:21.300 --> 01:43:28.260]  I had to make. And I can only hope that when she does, she'll realize I'm not the monster
[01:43:28.260 --> 01:43:36.460]  she thinks I am, and she'll come back. And she did. Took her to her mid-30s, but she
[01:43:36.460 --> 01:43:48.500]  did. But she didn't owe me anything. I owed her, so this is what I tell parents. Always
[01:43:48.500 --> 01:43:55.340]  be there for them. You and your spouse have problems. Keep them away from the kids. Always
[01:43:55.340 --> 01:44:00.180]  be there for them. Hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Felt, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:12.380 --> 01:46:27.380]  You got busted, man? Aw, man, I'm broke, dude. Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:46:27.380 --> 01:46:37.380]  Some things I realize fully. Somebody's gonna police a policeman. Somebody's gonna police
[01:46:37.380 --> 01:46:46.380]  a bully. There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear it through the grapevine,
[01:46:46.380 --> 01:46:53.380]  and it's lonely there still. They're wishing it was more than I position the bills. They
[01:46:53.380 --> 01:47:00.380]  know that if they don't do it, somebody will. Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:47:00.380 --> 01:47:05.780]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and I guess during that
[01:47:05.780 --> 01:47:13.620]  last segment I sounded like I was preaching a bit. The Gospel According to Randy. Maybe
[01:47:13.620 --> 01:47:19.620]  that's because I'm an older guy, and my kids are all grown, and they've got grown kids
[01:47:19.620 --> 01:47:30.180]  of their own. And I've got to see this whole cycle work itself through. And it gave me
[01:47:30.180 --> 01:47:39.300]  some perspective. No matter how difficult it is in this short time, your kids are little.
[01:47:39.300 --> 01:47:46.780]  Whatever it takes, it's worth it. Because in the end of the day, it's a short time.
[01:47:46.780 --> 01:47:56.420]  And we get into arguments with our spouse, and our tempers flare. We need to exercise
[01:47:56.420 --> 01:48:05.380]  discipline. When I was growing up, I heard my father raise his voice to my mother one
[01:48:05.380 --> 01:48:14.300]  time. And he was in the process of having a nervous breakdown at the time. When we grew
[01:48:14.300 --> 01:48:22.180]  up, we never heard our parents. They never argued. I asked her once we were grown, I
[01:48:22.180 --> 01:48:27.260]  said, didn't you and daddy ever have any arguments? Oh yeah, we fought all the time.
[01:48:27.260 --> 01:48:33.740]  What? Well, I've never seen you. And she said, no, you didn't, because we never fought
[01:48:33.740 --> 01:48:41.740]  in front of your kids. And I was raised by a couple of old sharecroppers. Neither one
[01:48:41.740 --> 01:48:46.980]  of them got very far in school. Told my mother once, when my daddy died, he was about the
[01:48:46.980 --> 01:48:55.100]  most ignorant old SOB I ever met. She said, well, that's not very nice. I said, I know.
[01:48:55.100 --> 01:49:03.380]  He's been dead about 30 years now, and I'll be darned if he don't get smarter every year.
[01:49:03.380 --> 01:49:11.660]  So I guess I don't get to complain. I was raised by people from old school. Benjamin
[01:49:11.660 --> 01:49:18.740]  Spock, he came along and he told everybody, oh, don't raise your kids the way your parents
[01:49:18.740 --> 01:49:23.460]  raised you and the way their parents raised them and their parents for the last 6,000
[01:49:23.460 --> 01:49:29.300]  years of recorded history. Oh no, no, no, don't discipline them. Let them find themselves.
[01:49:29.300 --> 01:49:36.460]  Let them develop their own character. So you left your children out there with no direction.
[01:49:36.460 --> 01:49:48.100]  On his deathbed, he said, I have ruined a generation. And I said, no, you ruined two.
[01:49:48.100 --> 01:49:55.780]  But the kids are coming back around. From all I hear, the kids are getting it back together.
[01:49:55.780 --> 01:50:02.620]  But he did ruin a couple of generations. My parents raised me with discipline. I didn't
[01:50:02.620 --> 01:50:08.300]  like it. And they knew I didn't like it.
[01:50:08.300 --> 01:50:15.220]  And I wasn't happy with them when they administered discipline. And they knew I wasn't happy with
[01:50:15.220 --> 01:50:28.240]  them when they delivered discipline. But it was their job. And when I grew up, I had discipline.
[01:50:28.240 --> 01:50:34.340]  Those children who were raised without it, they did not want to try to compete with me
[01:50:34.340 --> 01:50:40.940]  or any of my family. They'd be out of their league. And I see that in children now. I
[01:50:40.940 --> 01:50:46.400]  see that in adults now, who obviously had no discipline when they're growing up.
[01:50:46.400 --> 01:50:55.260]  And now they're adults and they don't have a concept for discipline. Their lives are
[01:50:55.260 --> 01:51:02.540]  absolutely miserable. We're born without an instruction manual, and our parents and
[01:51:02.540 --> 01:51:09.580]  their parents over 6,000 years developed one. We should pay attention to them. Anyway, Ted,
[01:51:09.580 --> 01:51:17.060]  we had John on, but John bailed. I guess he figured I wasn't going to get to him.
[01:51:17.060 --> 01:51:20.220]  What's your opinion, Ted?
[01:51:20.220 --> 01:51:26.020]  I agree with everything, almost everything you're saying, Randy. And I've actually given
[01:51:26.020 --> 01:51:31.220]  the advice, believe it or not, I've never been married. I don't have any children. But
[01:51:31.220 --> 01:51:42.260]  I am the eldest son of four, and my father left when I was seven. And so I've given that
[01:51:42.260 --> 01:51:48.180]  advice about being patient. And don't talk bad about the mother, because, you know, I'm
[01:51:48.180 --> 01:51:57.260]  talking to the men. Don't talk bad about the mother. Be there to listen and be patient.
[01:51:57.260 --> 01:52:04.220]  Create an environment that's safe for the kids. Have a home for them that they can come
[01:52:04.220 --> 01:52:13.060]  to. And eventually they will come around. As you've already said, sometimes they really
[01:52:13.060 --> 01:52:20.220]  get clarity when their kids start talking back to them.
[01:52:20.220 --> 01:52:29.620]  And I'll tell you, it's a terrible thing. And what you said early on about the children
[01:52:29.620 --> 01:52:36.860]  are first, okay, in this divorce situation. The children have to come first. And this
[01:52:36.860 --> 01:52:45.020]  fighting in the courts and everything, that gets lost. And major, major damage happens
[01:52:45.020 --> 01:52:51.020]  to the kids. And again, the kids come up with these notions that a parent doesn't care.
[01:52:51.020 --> 01:52:58.660]  This man that wants to dissolve himself as a father, that's exactly what the kids are
[01:52:58.660 --> 01:53:04.940]  going to think. He abandoned them. He took the easy way out. He's got to get his own
[01:53:04.940 --> 01:53:14.340]  emotional intelligence up to speed and understand his role. You know, he's supposed to be the
[01:53:14.340 --> 01:53:15.340]  rock.
[01:53:15.340 --> 01:53:23.660]  Okay, I know this guy. And he really is genuinely a nice guy and he really cares about his kids.
[01:53:23.660 --> 01:53:29.980]  What he's trying to do is get the wife in a position to where she can't manipulate the
[01:53:29.980 --> 01:53:36.700]  courts against him so much. And I understand what he's trying to do, but I also understand
[01:53:36.700 --> 01:53:42.460]  the message that will send to his children.
[01:53:42.460 --> 01:53:50.020]  And I didn't get to talk to him yet, but I will tell him, whatever you do, don't do that.
[01:53:50.020 --> 01:53:55.860]  You will regret it the rest of your life. You're looking at these children, I think
[01:53:55.860 --> 01:54:06.380]  his youngest one is eight. And the next one is like 14, and the next one's 18 and 19.
[01:54:06.380 --> 01:54:13.660]  So those two are already grown. They'll come back in time. He actually hasn't lost an 18-year-old.
[01:54:13.660 --> 01:54:21.580]  These two younger ones, if he does that, they'll feel like they were abandoned by their father.
[01:54:21.580 --> 01:54:30.620]  For four or five more years, be tolerant. Take whatever she gives out. Be there for
[01:54:30.620 --> 01:54:40.500]  the children no matter what. Even if the wife turns them against you and they hate you,
[01:54:40.500 --> 01:54:49.500]  be there anyway, because they will all grow and mature, and they will see what's been
[01:54:49.500 --> 01:54:57.220]  going on. And at the end of the day, they will know which parent was their rock, and
[01:54:57.220 --> 01:55:01.300]  that parent needs to be you.
[01:55:01.300 --> 01:55:11.060]  It's our job. My dad used to use corporal punishment, but it wasn't until I was grown
[01:55:11.060 --> 01:55:20.460]  that I realized that my father never touched us unless he had already said, if you do that,
[01:55:20.460 --> 01:55:31.640]  I'll whip your behind. And once he told us he would do that, he had to. It was his job.
[01:55:31.640 --> 01:55:38.980]  My father did not lie to us, and I did something once that really embarrassed my father. Shot
[01:55:38.980 --> 01:55:45.020]  an arrow at a squirrel in the guy's yard next door who had bought the house next to
[01:55:45.020 --> 01:55:50.220]  him so he could tear it down and build a rose garden. He fed those squirrels by hand, and
[01:55:50.220 --> 01:55:55.420]  I was practicing with a bow and arrow and shot one of those squirrels. Went under him,
[01:55:55.420 --> 01:56:00.220]  hit the concrete, bounced up, stuck in a tree. The squirrel ran up the tree, and Daddy and
[01:56:00.220 --> 01:56:08.860]  Mr. Popko stepped around the corner. I thought, I'm going to die. My father told me to get
[01:56:08.860 --> 01:56:15.160]  up to his room and don't go anywhere. I'm going to want to talk to you. His room is
[01:56:15.160 --> 01:56:20.580]  where I always beat the crap out of, so I think I'm going to die. I'm waiting. He made
[01:56:20.580 --> 01:56:29.180]  me wait a couple hours. Then he walked in the room and he said, young man, if you ever
[01:56:29.180 --> 01:56:34.300]  do anything like that again, I will strap you within each of your life. Do you understand
[01:56:34.300 --> 01:56:44.740]  me? I'm thinking, I'm not going to die. I was well-grown when I realized what happened.
[01:56:44.740 --> 01:56:50.620]  My father, no matter how embarrassed he was, had not told me that he would whip me for
[01:56:50.620 --> 01:57:03.580]  something like that, so he couldn't. He always followed the rules, and that stayed with me.
[01:57:03.580 --> 01:57:12.820]  I was never surprised by my father or my mother. They always told us what they would do, and
[01:57:12.820 --> 01:57:20.140]  they always did what they said they would do, whether they wanted to or not. That was
[01:57:20.140 --> 01:57:26.180]  incredibly important. My daughter was in her 30s and called me once and said, Dad, I'm
[01:57:26.180 --> 01:57:32.980]  at this mall. My battery's down. I can't get the car started. I said, well, where's the
[01:57:32.980 --> 01:57:38.820]  mall and what do you need? She told me what was going on. I told her, well, clean the
[01:57:38.820 --> 01:57:45.660]  battery post and tighten it. She did and started right up.
[01:57:45.660 --> 01:57:51.660]  She told my mother later how surprised she was that she called me. All I said to her
[01:57:51.660 --> 01:57:58.580]  was, where are you? What do you need? She couldn't believe that her husband would have
[01:57:58.580 --> 01:58:05.900]  griped her out. It had been difficult. The wife told her, well, that's your dad. If
[01:58:05.900 --> 01:58:09.860]  you need something, he'll be there. I'm sorry. We're out of time. We'll be right
[01:58:09.860 --> 01:58:12.060]  in here. We're done. We'll be back tomorrow.
[01:58:12.060 --> 01:58:21.780]  Out of time, but oh, I've got nine more seconds. Oh, I've got 30 seconds. My clock is
[01:58:21.780 --> 01:58:26.140]  messing up. Oh, God. I thought I had screwed up the last of the time. Sorry about that.
[01:58:26.140 --> 01:58:31.500]  Anyway, I didn't mean to preach the gospel according to Randy, but being a grandpa, that
[01:58:31.500 --> 01:58:37.700]  is an important subject to me. Okay. Thank you all for listening and putting up with
[01:58:37.700 --> 01:58:43.860]  me. This is Randy Kelton, Red Fountain. We'll be back tomorrow night with our four hour
[01:58:43.860 --> 01:58:50.820]  info marathon. Thank you for listening and good night.
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