[00:00.000 --> 00:05.800]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.800 --> 00:09.460]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.460 --> 00:10.880]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.880 --> 00:14.860]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.860 --> 00:16.960]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.960 --> 00:18.560]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.560 --> 00:22.160]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.160 --> 00:26.940]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.940 --> 00:32.120]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:32.120 --> 00:33.120]  Privacy.
[00:33.120 --> 00:34.680]  It's worth hanging on to.
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[00:46.560 --> 00:47.800]  It's what fighters do.
[00:47.800 --> 00:51.280]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.280 --> 00:54.480]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.480 --> 00:56.560]  S-P-A-R with an extra P.
[00:56.560 --> 01:02.920]  S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly, and R for religion.
[01:02.920 --> 01:06.920]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:06.920 --> 01:10.880]  assembly, and religion, but petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.880 --> 01:14.600]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.600 --> 01:18.120]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.120 --> 01:20.720]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.720 --> 01:22.760]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[01:31.120 --> 01:34.760]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.760 --> 01:38.240]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.240 --> 01:39.720]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.720 --> 01:43.600]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.600 --> 01:46.740]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.740 --> 01:48.320]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.320 --> 01:51.920]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.920 --> 01:56.680]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
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[02:14.360 --> 02:20.200]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.200 --> 02:22.280]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.280 --> 02:26.760]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.760 --> 02:30.600]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.600 --> 02:31.600]  Get it?
[02:31.600 --> 02:33.920]  Two arms, bear hug, bear arms?
[02:33.920 --> 02:37.520]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.520 --> 02:43.280]  when he said, the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
[02:43.280 --> 02:47.400]  government, one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America,
[02:47.400 --> 02:50.440]  but which historically has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.440 --> 02:52.440]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
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[03:18.600 --> 03:38.520]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Bret Fountain, Rule of Law Radio on this, the 9th day of
[03:38.520 --> 03:47.760]  June, 2023, on this Friday, the 9th day of June, 2023.
[03:47.760 --> 03:56.360]  And we're talking to Ted in California and he's giving us a primer on California traffic.
[03:56.360 --> 03:58.480]  That is a pretty cool maneuver.
[03:58.480 --> 04:03.320]  I know I do that in the federal courts.
[04:03.320 --> 04:09.320]  I always file a motion asking the court to rule on the pleadings and objecting to oral
[04:09.320 --> 04:10.320]  argument.
[04:10.320 --> 04:16.680]  Do you want to do a little quick recap since we just started top of the hour?
[04:16.680 --> 04:25.600]  Just give a short summary of that cool trick.
[04:25.600 --> 04:27.560]  Are you talking to me?
[04:27.560 --> 04:28.560]  Yeah.
[04:28.560 --> 04:29.560]  Yeah.
[04:29.560 --> 04:35.920]  About your, what was the name of the document that you filed that you wanted to rule on
[04:35.920 --> 04:37.720]  the pleading?
[04:37.720 --> 04:44.920]  Well, it's actually, the beauty of it is the form.
[04:44.920 --> 04:55.120]  And in the California court, each county has websites for the jurisdiction.
[04:55.120 --> 05:03.200]  So for example, Santa Clara County, you go to Santa Clara County Superior Court, that'll
[05:03.200 --> 05:05.400]  Google that, that'll take you to the website.
[05:05.400 --> 05:10.040]  So if it's San Benito County, Los Angeles County, wherever you are.
[05:10.040 --> 05:16.660]  And then once you're in the court website, go to the traffic section and then bury down
[05:16.660 --> 05:29.020]  in the website will be what you want to do a trial by declaration on your traffic ticket.
[05:29.020 --> 05:37.120]  And there is, there are timeframes for this.
[05:37.120 --> 05:43.200]  You can't wait till your ticket pass due, you know, and things like that.
[05:43.200 --> 05:50.360]  And you're, so you're, what this does is it gets your trip down to the court.
[05:50.360 --> 05:55.520]  So you're looking, you're looking for the trial by declaration.
[05:55.520 --> 05:59.280]  Now if you can't find it in their website and you can't get them on the phone, then
[05:59.280 --> 06:02.640]  you're going to have to go stand in line at the traffic court.
[06:02.640 --> 06:07.080]  And when you get up to the window, you say, I would like to do a trial by declaration
[06:07.080 --> 06:11.120]  on this ticket, the clerk will give you the form.
[06:11.120 --> 06:13.840]  You can fill it out right there because I already told you what you're going to put
[06:13.840 --> 06:14.840]  on there.
[06:14.840 --> 06:17.420]  I'm not guilty.
[06:17.420 --> 06:22.440]  And then the other pertinent information that starts the process.
[06:22.440 --> 06:29.160]  At that point, this is sent to the law enforcement officer that wrote the ticket and he or she
[06:29.160 --> 06:38.440]  has to write out basically their portion of the trial, which is they are, they're a witness.
[06:38.440 --> 06:39.440]  Okay.
[06:39.440 --> 06:43.400]  And so that's another key point to me.
[06:43.400 --> 06:51.260]  Look, they're, they're, they're a witness, but we all know that law, law enforcement
[06:51.260 --> 06:55.080]  is believed over a defendant.
[06:55.080 --> 07:02.360]  So anyway, the beauty of it is the law enforcement person that wrote you this ticket, they don't
[07:02.360 --> 07:05.520]  want to do this paperwork.
[07:05.520 --> 07:08.680]  They may not do it and then your case will be dismissed.
[07:08.680 --> 07:18.320]  If they do it, your case by paperwork will go before, you know, I, I, it could be a judge,
[07:18.320 --> 07:22.520]  it could be a magistrate, it could be this other thing that I forget what they're called.
[07:22.520 --> 07:26.200]  They're basically lawyers that they let hear cases.
[07:26.200 --> 07:31.000]  Anyway, the paperwork goes before this person, judge.
[07:31.000 --> 07:36.960]  And if, if the law enforcement person did their paperwork and if it's sufficient information
[07:36.960 --> 07:41.480]  there that the judge is going to make a finding that you're guilty, you're going to get a
[07:41.480 --> 07:48.400]  notice in the mail and you have about 20 days from the time you get that notice to just
[07:48.400 --> 07:53.720]  simply do another form, which is called trial de novo.
[07:53.720 --> 07:57.720]  The trial de novo, you submit that to the court, make sure you get a file, it's better
[07:57.720 --> 08:01.640]  to go down and file it with the clerk and get yourself a stamped copy to prove you did
[08:01.640 --> 08:04.520]  it within the timeframe.
[08:04.520 --> 08:10.540]  And you will be set a trial date, probably 90 days out.
[08:10.540 --> 08:15.240]  What happens at this point, a lot of times is law enforcement that wrote you the ticket
[08:15.240 --> 08:19.200]  doesn't show up and then your case is dismissed.
[08:19.200 --> 08:20.200]  Okay.
[08:20.200 --> 08:28.080]  If the officer does show up and your case, you're found guilty at the trial from that
[08:28.080 --> 08:34.600]  trial, since it is essentially an inferior court, do you have trial de novo appeal to
[08:34.600 --> 08:35.840]  the county?
[08:35.840 --> 08:38.640]  Well, you don't go to the county.
[08:38.640 --> 08:45.200]  Well, yes, I mean, that is actually if, if you have a trial in.
[08:45.200 --> 08:51.080]  So you asked for a trial de novo, but then it's like, it's just starting.
[08:51.080 --> 08:55.560]  The other, the other finding of guilt is like it never happened.
[08:55.560 --> 08:57.680]  No, no, there's no, okay.
[08:57.680 --> 09:03.240]  Here in Texas, if I go to the municipal court and they rule against me, I can appeal trial
[09:03.240 --> 09:05.640]  de novo.
[09:05.640 --> 09:17.080]  It looks like if I, if in California I use this form and the officer does his deposition
[09:17.080 --> 09:23.640]  and I lose at that level, then I get trial de novo to the inferior court.
[09:23.640 --> 09:30.640]  So do I also get trial de novo from the inferior court to the county court?
[09:30.640 --> 09:33.140]  Absolutely.
[09:33.140 --> 09:35.920]  So you get two trial de novos.
[09:35.920 --> 09:44.000]  Well, like I said, at the point where if you're by trial by declaration, if you're found guilty,
[09:44.000 --> 09:48.320]  you get a regular court trial at the traffic court.
[09:48.320 --> 09:53.480]  If you're found guilty, guilty at that regular trial at the traffic court, you can then appeal
[09:53.480 --> 09:56.400]  that to the appellate court.
[09:56.400 --> 09:58.680]  And that one's trial de novo.
[09:58.680 --> 10:06.560]  Yeah, what's nice about that is if there's any errors in anywhere along the line, you'll
[10:06.560 --> 10:09.120]  be able to point those out in your appeal.
[10:09.120 --> 10:15.480]  And you know, for those out there, you know, I'll tell you now, it's very rare that you
[10:15.480 --> 10:22.800]  win an appeal of anything, especially a traffic ticket like you spoke, but you know, one time
[10:22.800 --> 10:30.600]  I was given my presentation, I did the appeal and you find yourself for a three judge panel.
[10:30.600 --> 10:32.680]  And I went down there in my best suit.
[10:32.680 --> 10:36.240]  I looked better than the lawyers that were there.
[10:36.240 --> 10:44.480]  And my appeal to the appellate court was heard with some other cases that day.
[10:44.480 --> 10:46.720]  And I went first.
[10:46.720 --> 10:52.080]  And in my presentation, I explained, look, this may seem like a trivial matter, but however
[10:52.080 --> 10:56.860]  it's not, let me explain to you, it could cost you your job.
[10:56.860 --> 11:01.600]  Even if you're not a professional driver, okay, it costs you more on your insurance.
[11:01.600 --> 11:03.300]  And so I went down through this stuff.
[11:03.300 --> 11:08.320]  And then in the way I presented it to the court, and again, I don't know, when I'm in
[11:08.320 --> 11:16.540]  court and I'm speaking, it's like a different person, I get, I don't know, I just get on.
[11:16.540 --> 11:20.960]  And anyway, it was, I did such a great presentation.
[11:20.960 --> 11:27.240]  The next lawyer gets up and he's trying to get a guy's record cleared of a criminal charge
[11:27.240 --> 11:31.160]  that was, you know, long ago, six years, eight years, whatever.
[11:31.160 --> 11:35.920]  So he started his presentation and just a few minutes into it, you know, everything
[11:35.920 --> 11:43.960]  that the previous guy said, well, that's what I'm saying.
[11:43.960 --> 11:48.080]  And of course, because he's a slick lawyer, he said, in the interest of, you know, shortening
[11:48.080 --> 11:54.280]  time here, I just would like to say that I'd like the court to consider what the previous
[11:54.280 --> 11:55.280]  stuff.
[11:55.280 --> 11:58.520]  And he hesitated because he didn't know what to call me.
[11:58.520 --> 12:03.840]  He didn't want to call me, he knew I wasn't a lawyer, he wasn't sure.
[12:03.840 --> 12:07.640]  And so, I mean, that's one hell of a compliment, right?
[12:07.640 --> 12:14.440]  Yeah, if you can get a lawyer to quote, to want to go follow the pro se, that's pretty
[12:14.440 --> 12:15.440]  good.
[12:15.440 --> 12:18.880]  All right, so.
[12:18.880 --> 12:29.520]  So anytime we get someone with tickets in California, we're gonna send them to Ted.
[12:29.520 --> 12:36.040]  That's fine, you know, but as long as they get timely, because I'll tell you another
[12:36.040 --> 12:37.040]  thing.
[12:37.040 --> 12:42.160]  Look, you want, when you're pulled over, like you said, have respect.
[12:42.160 --> 12:50.780]  You want to be so vanilla that they immediately start forgetting about you, okay?
[12:50.780 --> 12:54.520]  You don't want to tell them, I'll see you in court, for example.
[12:54.520 --> 12:58.080]  You don't want to argue, okay?
[12:58.080 --> 13:05.120]  And look, if you, I will also tell you, if you spend a little time talking to them, sometimes
[13:05.120 --> 13:11.400]  they'll just say, hey, you know what, I'm going to give you a warning, you know?
[13:11.400 --> 13:16.480]  And or if you get them talking enough, you know, they may forget to write you a ticket.
[13:16.480 --> 13:21.880]  And I'm telling you, you can do this kind of, that's kind of some Jedi stuff, you know,
[13:21.880 --> 13:24.560]  I'm not the droid you're looking for, okay?
[13:24.560 --> 13:26.640]  I've done that before.
[13:26.640 --> 13:32.200]  But remember, I'm at the status now, I told you guys before, I get pulled over, I don't
[13:32.200 --> 13:33.760]  get tickets anymore.
[13:33.760 --> 13:40.240]  They, it's interesting, the few times I've been, one, I really deserved it.
[13:40.240 --> 13:43.520]  I really deserved it, okay?
[13:43.520 --> 13:53.440]  And they pull me over and they end up calling in because I'm flagged.
[13:53.440 --> 14:02.880]  I now know that when they run a plate, any law enforcement officer, in California anyway,
[14:02.880 --> 14:06.520]  what comes up on their screen is a gold star.
[14:06.520 --> 14:11.040]  That tells them that they've got, they're pulling over a law enforcement person.
[14:11.040 --> 14:17.600]  There's some kind of flag on me because they call in and it takes a little bit of time,
[14:17.600 --> 14:20.600]  you know, I have to sit there for a while because they're checking on it.
[14:20.600 --> 14:23.920]  They're confused about it, so that's why they call.
[14:23.920 --> 14:28.480]  And then they come back and they give me my license and tell me to have a nice day.
[14:28.480 --> 14:36.720]  They don't want someone who will fight.
[14:36.720 --> 14:44.520]  Right now, Randy, this appeal that I won, they haven't given me my money back, the fine
[14:44.520 --> 14:47.240]  that I paid, okay?
[14:47.240 --> 14:54.000]  And so, and by the way, the magistrate, she retired.
[14:54.000 --> 15:01.520]  I put a lot of paperwork in there and some of it might be considered patriot stuff, but
[15:01.520 --> 15:08.520]  yeah, they know I'm going to cost them more money than they're ever going to get out of
[15:08.520 --> 15:11.440]  me.
[15:11.440 --> 15:20.400]  And look, I chose this and it's really, it's nice, okay, because I don't promote reckless
[15:20.400 --> 15:22.560]  driving.
[15:22.560 --> 15:28.800]  I don't get, I mean, that ticket I'm talking about was now six years ago.
[15:28.800 --> 15:38.360]  I haven't had a ticket since, but yeah, they don't want to give me a ticket.
[15:38.360 --> 15:46.400]  And so it's a process that started from the time I started driving.
[15:46.400 --> 15:48.560]  And you know, I lost something.
[15:48.560 --> 15:51.160]  I convicted myself one time.
[15:51.160 --> 15:52.160]  Stupid.
[15:52.160 --> 15:57.560]  But I always dragged it, I always, in the beginning, what I used to do is drag the tickets
[15:57.560 --> 15:58.560]  out.
[15:58.560 --> 16:01.200]  I mean, I'd drag them out for a year, a year and a half.
[16:01.200 --> 16:07.580]  And I did so on a commuter lane ticket down in Los Angeles.
[16:07.580 --> 16:14.040]  And we go to the court and the highway patrolman says, your honor, I don't remember.
[16:14.040 --> 16:18.320]  And so then the judge turns to me and says, okay, well, what's the story here?
[16:18.320 --> 16:24.360]  And stupid me, I should have just said, I moved for dismissal.
[16:24.360 --> 16:29.240]  But see, I was back at that point, like the guy that called in tonight, I want to tell
[16:29.240 --> 16:30.240]  my story.
[16:30.240 --> 16:33.240]  You don't want to tell your story.
[16:33.240 --> 16:34.240]  Exactly.
[16:34.240 --> 16:38.360]  You do not want to tell your story.
[16:38.360 --> 16:41.240]  You do not want to get to the merits.
[16:41.240 --> 16:45.920]  You get to the merits, it gets to the discretion of the judge and he will always rule against
[16:45.920 --> 16:46.920]  you.
[16:46.920 --> 16:47.920]  Or she will.
[16:47.920 --> 16:48.920]  Okay.
[16:48.920 --> 16:49.920]  Hang on.
[16:49.920 --> 16:58.160]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, call in number 512-646-1984, we'll
[16:58.160 --> 17:00.160]  be right back.
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[19:30.320 --> 19:31.320]  Come on.
[19:31.320 --> 19:38.320]  Trust in God me friend, tell him your problem been, call on his name once again, here we
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[19:41.320 --> 19:58.040]  He is my king man, he is everything, he is everything to me, that's why I call him,
[19:58.040 --> 20:04.680]  come talk with me and I pray to him, because he is the only one who could answer him, being
[20:04.680 --> 20:12.720]  a business what wicked man say, mankind you know is this leading me, trust in God me friend,
[20:12.720 --> 20:21.120]  tell him your problem been, call on his name once again, here we go, you know he will stay
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[20:28.120 --> 20:33.520]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Root of Law Radio and we're talking to Ted
[20:33.520 --> 20:47.640]  in California, so a trial by declaration, that is a great idea, okay so I will be sending
[20:47.640 --> 20:58.680]  my traffic people to you Ted, from California, can you keep them out of trouble, well absolutely
[20:58.680 --> 21:06.200]  because it's just in paper, they're not even going to step into a court, and then oh by
[21:06.200 --> 21:18.040]  the way, so if they are found guilty, then you do submit the fine with the trial by declaration,
[21:18.040 --> 21:21.920]  so if you're found guilty they're going to hold your money, but again if you ask for
[21:21.920 --> 21:28.080]  trial de novo and you win at trial de novo, you're going to get your money back.
[21:28.080 --> 21:32.080]  So at that point you can just walk away from all of it.
[21:32.080 --> 21:38.200]  Now the other thing, very important, let's say you go the two steps, the paper trial,
[21:38.200 --> 21:44.200]  trial by declaration, then you go and you actually get a trial de novo and have an actual
[21:44.200 --> 21:50.920]  physical trial and you go into court, at the end of the trial, if you're found guilty,
[21:50.920 --> 21:59.760]  you move the court for traffic school, you ask for traffic school to keep the points
[21:59.760 --> 22:07.640]  off your record, and if the judge says no and you had your chance but you decided to
[22:07.640 --> 22:19.320]  have a trial, well that's enough right there to get it overturned on appeal.
[22:19.320 --> 22:24.240]  So wait a minute, there's still a part I'm missing here, if I don't do the trial by
[22:24.240 --> 22:32.160]  declaration and I go in and do a straight up trial and they rule against me, do I get
[22:32.160 --> 22:38.000]  a trial de novo to the county court in California?
[22:38.000 --> 22:45.980]  Well your lingo is a little bit different, what your option is after a traffic court
[22:45.980 --> 22:56.280]  trial in California is an appeal, and the appeal is still in the same court, you're
[22:56.280 --> 23:04.520]  not moving up to the appellate court, but you will have three new judges that you'll
[23:04.520 --> 23:07.320]  present your case to.
[23:07.320 --> 23:17.680]  Oh okay, so it's different in California. Yeah, when you go to traffic court in California,
[23:17.680 --> 23:21.520]  you are in the superior court of California.
[23:21.520 --> 23:26.960]  Oh okay, so it's not an inferior court.
[23:26.960 --> 23:27.960]  No.
[23:27.960 --> 23:34.440]  Oh okay, so you only get one trial de novo.
[23:34.440 --> 23:41.360]  But remember that little trick about at the end of the trial, if you're found guilty at
[23:41.360 --> 23:47.120]  a physical trial, you see what I've shown here, you get several bites at the apple.
[23:47.120 --> 23:51.400]  So the first is a paper trial by trial by declaration.
[23:51.400 --> 23:54.240]  You lose that, okay I want a physical trial.
[23:54.240 --> 23:59.400]  You lose that, make sure you make a record that you can beat them on appeal.
[23:59.400 --> 24:07.240]  And just asking for traffic school after you're found guilty and before your sentence, and
[24:07.240 --> 24:14.960]  they say no, right there can get you a win at the appeal.
[24:14.960 --> 24:21.000]  And they still have no evidence of anything that you've done except you said not guilty.
[24:21.000 --> 24:32.400]  Right, no I mean Brett, if you said not guilty at the paper trial by declaration, then you
[24:32.400 --> 24:35.440]  went and had a physical trial.
[24:35.440 --> 24:43.960]  Now at the physical trial, you're not there to testify, you're there to do an examination.
[24:43.960 --> 24:50.920]  And to cross-examine them, so the prosecutor's still got nothing to work with.
[24:50.920 --> 24:59.400]  Well here's another thing, I hope you buckle up, there is no prosecutor.
[24:59.400 --> 25:08.160]  In California, that's right, what you have is a judge conducting the trial.
[25:08.160 --> 25:11.760]  That's another reason for an appeal.
[25:11.760 --> 25:18.960]  But I could go on forever about this guys, I've got a little bit of experience with this.
[25:18.960 --> 25:24.960]  And the bottom line is that's why when you get in there and the law enforcement present
[25:24.960 --> 25:29.840]  the case to the judge, then it's your turn, okay?
[25:29.840 --> 25:38.200]  And all you're doing is asking this law enforcement witness question, and I'm going to get them.
[25:38.200 --> 25:43.080]  And then you get in all the details of if they used radar.
[25:43.080 --> 25:49.720]  In California, there has to be a speed survey every five years of the roadway that they're
[25:49.720 --> 25:54.900]  running radar on, and if it's not current, your ticket's thrown out.
[25:54.900 --> 26:00.680]  And I can go on and on, see I've turned into, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not given legal advice
[26:00.680 --> 26:10.160]  here, but I am a student of law, and I am definitely a student of the traffic court.
[26:10.160 --> 26:18.160]  And so, oh, by the way, if they really mess you around, if you really get ticked off,
[26:18.160 --> 26:20.680]  then you start doing discovery.
[26:20.680 --> 26:25.480]  Okay, I want this law enforcement officer's record.
[26:25.480 --> 26:27.240]  Have you ever lied before?
[26:27.240 --> 26:31.360]  Because a lot of them have.
[26:31.360 --> 26:35.440]  So you start subpoenaing stuff.
[26:35.440 --> 26:38.680]  And yes, there's no prosecutor.
[26:38.680 --> 26:41.480]  And so that's one of the things you bring up.
[26:41.480 --> 26:43.560]  Who's conducting this trial?
[26:43.560 --> 26:48.000]  Judge, are you conducting this trial?
[26:48.000 --> 26:53.600]  That'll get it dismissed right there.
[26:53.600 --> 27:03.640]  Doesn't in California, doesn't the police officer act as the prosecutor?
[27:03.640 --> 27:11.920]  In a sense, they do, but actually, the way it really goes down is the judge or commissioner
[27:11.920 --> 27:17.200]  is the prosecutor.
[27:17.200 --> 27:25.720]  And see, the judges have tried to ask me questions, and I asked, are you prosecuting this case?
[27:25.720 --> 27:27.920]  They don't like me, Randy.
[27:27.920 --> 27:34.040]  Well, good, maybe you can clone yourself and get a lot of other people that they don't
[27:34.040 --> 27:35.040]  like.
[27:35.040 --> 27:37.720]  They need a lot of people they don't like.
[27:37.720 --> 27:44.760]  Well, this is how we keep them honest.
[27:44.760 --> 27:46.720]  You have to be a student of this, though.
[27:46.720 --> 27:47.920]  You have to be committed.
[27:47.920 --> 27:53.560]  And I don't find many people that are willing to actually study this and understand what
[27:53.560 --> 27:54.560]  they're doing.
[27:54.560 --> 28:03.800]  And the bottom line is, I'm getting the nitty-gritty like lawyers do.
[28:03.800 --> 28:07.920]  Have you written this up?
[28:07.920 --> 28:08.920]  It's all in my head.
[28:08.920 --> 28:14.680]  Get it out of your head, get it on paper.
[28:14.680 --> 28:15.840]  There's websites.
[28:15.840 --> 28:23.240]  There's one website in California that people can go to, and it can help them a lot.
[28:23.240 --> 28:31.120]  But you have to be willing to go down to court and watch trials prior to your trial.
[28:31.120 --> 28:38.920]  You don't just walk in there with your book smart or talking to me, and you're not going
[28:38.920 --> 28:39.920]  to win.
[28:39.920 --> 28:40.920]  Okay?
[28:40.920 --> 28:45.200]  I think that's key.
[28:45.200 --> 28:50.400]  Everybody that is going to go to court needs to do it first when they're not under the
[28:50.400 --> 28:53.400]  gun.
[28:53.400 --> 28:57.720]  Yeah, I mean, it's remarkable to move on.
[28:57.720 --> 29:05.000]  It was trial by fire on these fake criminal charges that were put on me, okay?
[29:05.000 --> 29:06.520]  I didn't get the opportunity.
[29:06.520 --> 29:14.120]  I mean, they basically turned me into a lawyer by taking me into 154 hearings, and I sat
[29:14.120 --> 29:17.960]  there and watched them conduct all these things.
[29:17.960 --> 29:23.960]  But even at that, what I mean is, I went to motion hearings, watched lawyers argue their
[29:23.960 --> 29:24.960]  motion.
[29:24.960 --> 29:35.240]  I watched the cattle call of the pleas, I watched preliminary hearings, but I didn't
[29:35.240 --> 29:38.240]  watch any trials.
[29:38.240 --> 29:41.760]  Why not?
[29:41.760 --> 29:46.240]  Didn't get to that.
[29:46.240 --> 29:54.600]  Okay, hang on, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rue La Radio, I call in number 512-646-1984.
[29:54.600 --> 30:01.240]  We got a couple of empty slots, we'll be right back.
[30:01.240 --> 30:05.640]  Everyone knows that walking is a great exercise, but you might not know that the way you walk
[30:05.640 --> 30:07.800]  could predict how long you're going to live.
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[31:00.160 --> 31:04.880]  A senior's age, gender, and walking speed were as good at predicting life expectancy
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[33:27.680 --> 33:48.080]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Ted
[33:48.080 --> 33:49.080]  in California.
[33:49.080 --> 33:52.280]  Ted, do you have anything else for us?
[33:52.280 --> 33:58.040]  Well, I'm on a roll, but I'm gonna take a pass.
[33:58.040 --> 34:05.600]  I'll call in and, you know, next show and we'll cut, I got some other subjects.
[34:05.600 --> 34:06.600]  One of them is-
[34:06.600 --> 34:07.600]  No, go ahead.
[34:07.600 --> 34:08.600]  We've only got one more caller.
[34:08.600 --> 34:10.880]  We got Chris in Colorado.
[34:10.880 --> 34:19.280]  Well, Chris, I wanna thank you again for helping me with my health issues.
[34:19.280 --> 34:21.760]  And I would like to talk to you sometime.
[34:21.760 --> 34:26.440]  I've lost track of your number or whatever, but-
[34:26.440 --> 34:30.440]  Chris, you're unmuted.
[34:30.440 --> 34:35.760]  Chris, are you there?
[34:35.760 --> 34:38.760]  Oh, hey guys, yeah.
[34:38.760 --> 34:46.680]  Okay, you're unmuted, so you can talk to Ted if you want to.
[34:46.680 --> 34:48.800]  Hey, Ted.
[34:48.800 --> 34:55.480]  Yeah, Chris, just thanks, and I've tried to text you and call you, and I don't know if
[34:55.480 --> 35:03.400]  you changed numbers or whatever, but just thanks again for the recommendations and stuff.
[35:03.400 --> 35:06.520]  It has helped me, and I really appreciate it.
[35:06.520 --> 35:07.520]  Cool.
[35:07.520 --> 35:09.560]  You sound a lot better, yeah.
[35:09.560 --> 35:10.560]  Good.
[35:10.560 --> 35:11.560]  Yeah, and-
[35:11.560 --> 35:14.560]  Sounds like things are working out better for you, too.
[35:14.560 --> 35:18.680]  Yeah, so I'm actually, I'm just gonna listen.
[35:18.680 --> 35:26.040]  To you now, I'm very interested in where you're at with your stuff.
[35:26.040 --> 35:27.040]  Okay.
[35:27.040 --> 35:32.520]  Okay, Chris, what do you have for us today?
[35:32.520 --> 35:42.320]  Well, I'm calling in about the hospital thing from the accident, actually.
[35:42.320 --> 35:45.920]  I've got just a couple months here on the statute of limitations, so I've started calling
[35:45.920 --> 35:51.400]  around to see if I can find a lawyer that would help, and unfortunately, it's a little
[35:51.400 --> 35:52.400]  too optimistic.
[35:52.400 --> 35:59.560]  There aren't a lot of helpful lawyers, but there's some, but anyway, in the midst of
[35:59.560 --> 36:05.280]  doing that, I had to revisit kind of what happened at the hospital, and I thought it
[36:05.280 --> 36:08.640]  was taken care of as far as the EMTALA Act.
[36:08.640 --> 36:20.120]  I don't know, do people know what the EMTALA Act, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor
[36:20.120 --> 36:21.120]  Act?
[36:21.120 --> 36:23.640]  No, I've never heard of it.
[36:23.640 --> 36:29.080]  Okay, if it's a federal act, and essentially, if it's more or less a public hospital, if
[36:29.080 --> 36:34.400]  they take funding from the state, or they take Medicare or Medicaid or anything like
[36:34.400 --> 36:39.440]  that, then they're regulated by the federal act, and what it states is you can't deny
[36:39.440 --> 36:40.440]  service.
[36:40.440 --> 36:46.720]  And on top of that, you have to log each person that comes to the hospital and the reasons
[36:46.720 --> 36:51.320]  for the treatment, the lack of treatment, denial of service, etc., etc.
[36:51.320 --> 36:57.920]  Okay, so six months after the accident, when I was able to do a little bit more, I filed
[36:57.920 --> 36:59.600]  a complaint with the local health department.
[36:59.600 --> 37:03.600]  They're the ones, they have a licensing department within the Wyoming Health Department, and
[37:03.600 --> 37:05.920]  they basically regulate the hospitals.
[37:05.920 --> 37:13.120]  But they get permission from the federal side, which is the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid,
[37:13.120 --> 37:16.960]  and they have regional offices across the United States.
[37:16.960 --> 37:21.720]  So the local state offices have to reach out to the regional offices on the federal level
[37:21.720 --> 37:25.840]  to get permission to do an investigation into the hospital, and generally, they will say
[37:25.840 --> 37:26.840]  yes.
[37:26.840 --> 37:27.840]  And they sign off and go ahead.
[37:27.840 --> 37:28.840]  So that's what they did in this case.
[37:28.840 --> 37:31.640]  They signed off and said, okay, go ahead and do the investigation.
[37:31.640 --> 37:37.440]  And then they asked for my video that I took of the day of the emergency room.
[37:37.440 --> 37:42.360]  So I put that on a CD, and I walked it up to the health department office and gave it
[37:42.360 --> 37:43.360]  to them.
[37:43.360 --> 37:49.240]  And then a few months later, I get a phone call and it states, we finished our investigation,
[37:49.240 --> 37:54.280]  and we've been able to validate some of your concerns.
[37:54.280 --> 37:58.440]  I got a letter basically saying some of the same, basically the same thing.
[37:58.440 --> 38:00.520]  And I said, well, what, can you just give me anything?
[38:00.520 --> 38:02.840]  They said, well, yeah, they basically violated the EMTAL Act.
[38:02.840 --> 38:03.840]  I said, okay, good.
[38:03.840 --> 38:04.840]  All right.
[38:04.840 --> 38:10.160]  So that means the hospital was cited, and that's where I thought it lay.
[38:10.160 --> 38:15.400]  But they told me if I wanted any more detailed records, I'd have to subpoena, which I took
[38:15.400 --> 38:16.400]  as another hint.
[38:16.400 --> 38:20.720]  You have a case, and therefore, once you have your case rolling, you can subpoena the records.
[38:20.720 --> 38:21.720]  All right.
[38:21.720 --> 38:23.800]  So that's where I left it for the past year.
[38:23.800 --> 38:31.320]  So I started digging further this past week, and I found actually the report online.
[38:31.320 --> 38:35.880]  It's in a database that they publish it online.
[38:35.880 --> 38:41.320]  And this is where it gets a little disturbing, because they have video of evidence of the
[38:41.320 --> 38:45.320]  entire interaction at the hospital minus the first 10 seconds when I walked in the door
[38:45.320 --> 38:47.720]  15 seconds.
[38:47.720 --> 38:55.400]  And in the document, the people who saw me at the hospital lied to the investigator.
[38:55.400 --> 39:02.600]  They said that they would allow me to come in without a mask, and that I left.
[39:02.600 --> 39:05.520]  And that's why they didn't have my name.
[39:05.520 --> 39:10.320]  So this is where I'm trying to figure out what to do, because now we have a local agency
[39:10.320 --> 39:11.320]  that...
[39:11.320 --> 39:14.080]  And I called the local agency, the health department, and said, why did you guys not
[39:14.080 --> 39:18.080]  consider the video, and I got all kinds of excuses.
[39:18.080 --> 39:20.640]  And they said, well, they did look at it, but it was in segments.
[39:20.640 --> 39:24.480]  And I said, the entire interaction is there, and it's contradicting everything that happened
[39:24.480 --> 39:27.920]  that night and what they're telling you, and they're lying to you.
[39:27.920 --> 39:29.520]  And they said, well, we don't know if they're lying.
[39:29.520 --> 39:33.760]  And so they basically put it all back on me.
[39:33.760 --> 39:40.000]  And I've got video evidence, guys, of people saying things like, we force people with severe
[39:40.000 --> 39:41.320]  asthma to wear a mask.
[39:41.320 --> 39:45.040]  And we're not denying service, but you can't come in the hospital without a mask, like
[39:45.040 --> 39:47.800]  this type of stuff.
[39:47.800 --> 39:51.680]  And somehow that's not valid evidence.
[39:51.680 --> 39:56.080]  I don't get where people's minds go, but this is pretty crazy.
[39:56.080 --> 40:02.400]  So that's hurdle number one, I'm trying to figure out how to take care of.
[40:02.400 --> 40:04.680]  So what is it that you want to do?
[40:04.680 --> 40:07.760]  Are you looking to file a civil action against them?
[40:07.760 --> 40:08.760]  Well, I'm gonna...
[40:08.760 --> 40:12.000]  Yeah, I'm still in the hospital with or without an attorney.
[40:12.000 --> 40:13.000]  I have to.
[40:13.000 --> 40:18.000]  These guys denied medical treatment in an emergency situation because of a mask.
[40:18.000 --> 40:22.880]  And they even say in the document here, he was having severe trouble, he was having extreme
[40:22.880 --> 40:23.880]  trouble breathing.
[40:23.880 --> 40:27.160]  They actually say this in the document.
[40:27.160 --> 40:32.800]  The nurses were admitting that when I arrived there, I was having a hard time breathing.
[40:32.800 --> 40:36.240]  So I've got a case against them.
[40:36.240 --> 40:37.360]  I'm not sure how to bring it.
[40:37.360 --> 40:44.600]  But the problem now is that I've got a government agency that won't do their job, that won't
[40:44.600 --> 40:52.880]  do a proper investigation and are just kind of letting it fall by the wayside.
[40:52.880 --> 40:56.600]  Can you sue the agency?
[40:56.600 --> 40:59.760]  I know, but I can't sue everybody.
[40:59.760 --> 41:04.560]  I don't have an in-meter to sue everybody.
[41:04.560 --> 41:08.120]  I'm trying to get somebody to regulate these guys.
[41:08.120 --> 41:11.880]  And I'm called the sentence for Medicare and Medicaid, but I just don't know where else
[41:11.880 --> 41:12.880]  to go.
[41:12.880 --> 41:16.200]  They straight up told me they're not gonna do anything.
[41:16.200 --> 41:19.400]  They said, well, we've already done investigation.
[41:19.400 --> 41:23.360]  They did cite them for not logging me, but the story behind why they didn't log me is
[41:23.360 --> 41:25.720]  a lie.
[41:25.720 --> 41:34.040]  And so I'm trying to get it corrected, and they're refusing to correct it.
[41:34.040 --> 41:39.280]  I don't know what the rules are that they're governed by.
[41:39.280 --> 41:45.200]  Do you have any of the rules that govern this agency?
[41:45.200 --> 41:48.400]  I don't even know where to start looking for that.
[41:48.400 --> 41:49.400]  I'm trying to get...
[41:49.400 --> 41:51.000]  It's a lot of he said, she said.
[41:51.000 --> 41:52.880]  So they said that the...
[41:52.880 --> 41:57.280]  These people, of course, are always on a recorded phone call.
[41:57.280 --> 42:01.760]  They said that, no, CMS gave us permission to do the investigation, and they signed off
[42:01.760 --> 42:03.400]  on our results from the investigation.
[42:03.400 --> 42:04.400]  And I called CMS.
[42:04.400 --> 42:06.440]  CMS said, nope, that's not true.
[42:06.440 --> 42:09.040]  We signed off on allowing them to do an investigation.
[42:09.040 --> 42:11.760]  We don't know how it ended up.
[42:11.760 --> 42:14.440]  So they're lying about that.
[42:14.440 --> 42:21.920]  And I guess I'm just concerned that it's kind of a loaded question.
[42:21.920 --> 42:32.040]  Are we really in a world where you have video evidence of somebody pulling the trigger and
[42:32.040 --> 42:35.600]  the right angle, and somehow that's not a guilty verdict?
[42:35.600 --> 42:39.960]  I don't get what's happening to people's minds in this case.
[42:39.960 --> 42:49.200]  I have video, 20 minutes roughly, it's video evidence of people making very audible confessions
[42:49.200 --> 42:55.840]  and statements and requirements and positions and policies, very audible, very clear.
[42:55.840 --> 43:01.320]  And that's as they're coming towards the camera for the first time, and as they're leaving
[43:01.320 --> 43:03.600]  walking away denying service.
[43:03.600 --> 43:06.280]  And somehow that's not valid evidence.
[43:06.280 --> 43:08.920]  I don't know quite how to think about it.
[43:08.920 --> 43:14.680]  I mean, obviously I'm confused, but it's also, I mean, I can't even get angry.
[43:14.680 --> 43:16.160]  It's so ridiculous.
[43:16.160 --> 43:21.720]  Well, in order to evaluate this, we need to know what the duty of the agency is.
[43:21.720 --> 43:22.720]  True.
[43:22.720 --> 43:28.760]  And what are they supposed to do, and what did they not do that they were supposed to
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[43:29.760 --> 43:30.760]  That makes them suable.
[43:30.760 --> 43:36.480]  If you sue them, they're likely to throw these other guys out of the bus for you.
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[46:32.960 --> 46:38.720]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[46:38.720 --> 46:46.640]  Chris, it sounds like these guys need to be sued for official misconduct.
[46:46.640 --> 46:50.040]  Yeah, I would agree.
[46:50.040 --> 46:52.800]  I just don't even know where to start with this one.
[46:52.800 --> 46:57.360]  I mean, this is just, yeah, I guess I'm just, I'm not shocked, but I am, you know?
[46:57.360 --> 47:05.720]  I keep thinking that somebody's gonna do their damn job, and clearly this is not a competent
[47:05.720 --> 47:09.160]  people.
[47:09.160 --> 47:16.760]  I'm listening to this and I'm thinking there's politics at work here.
[47:16.760 --> 47:22.920]  What is the politics that's at work here?
[47:22.920 --> 47:26.280]  These guys work with the hospital personnel all the time.
[47:26.280 --> 47:39.400]  They have an affinity with them, and the mask was a real political football at the time.
[47:39.400 --> 47:41.720]  So this is all about politics.
[47:41.720 --> 47:50.360]  You look at these officials and they're politically bound to require the masks, whether they want
[47:50.360 --> 47:52.080]  to or not.
[47:52.080 --> 48:03.640]  So they're kind of in a bind, and you got this oversight office or organization that's
[48:03.640 --> 48:11.440]  supposed to make sure they take care of their patients, but they're not.
[48:11.440 --> 48:15.800]  So they're thinking, well, these guys are kind of between a rock and a hard place, and
[48:15.800 --> 48:18.960]  they want to cut them some slack.
[48:18.960 --> 48:24.440]  Does this agency have the power to cut this slack, or are they exerting or purporting
[48:24.440 --> 48:28.840]  to exert an authority they don't have?
[48:28.840 --> 48:32.640]  Well, you're right.
[48:32.640 --> 48:34.320]  I can't quite unravel this one.
[48:34.320 --> 48:39.320]  So they are required to do an investigation because I filed a complaint, but they're also
[48:39.320 --> 48:45.480]  fellow nurses who you don't become a nurse unless you've worked in the medical field.
[48:45.480 --> 48:51.560]  So they were prior nurses, but then they have video evidence, right?
[48:51.560 --> 48:58.600]  So they have very clear video evidence of denial of service because of a mask.
[48:58.600 --> 49:04.240]  Now mixed in with that, there's no patriot position for me that day.
[49:04.240 --> 49:07.960]  There was no, okay, I'm denying, I'm not going to wear a mask because I don't believe
[49:07.960 --> 49:08.960]  in them.
[49:08.960 --> 49:12.160]  I can barely breathe, and you guys are talking to me about a mask.
[49:12.160 --> 49:16.320]  This is beyond rational.
[49:16.320 --> 49:20.120]  And I was in no position to have any tenacity in my voice.
[49:20.120 --> 49:24.720]  I was literally just about died 30 minutes earlier, you know?
[49:24.720 --> 49:28.640]  And so there was no altercation of any kind.
[49:28.640 --> 49:30.200]  There was no harsh words.
[49:30.200 --> 49:34.800]  It was just, please see me, and I'm not putting on the mask.
[49:34.800 --> 49:40.840]  And so that was the tone of the day, and their position is, no, you need to comply.
[49:40.840 --> 49:41.840]  Literally, that's in the language.
[49:41.840 --> 49:45.720]  One of the women said, you need to comply.
[49:45.720 --> 49:50.280]  And you know, looking back, that would probably aggravate a lot of people, but I just was
[49:50.280 --> 49:55.640]  not in a position to argue, okay, so they don't see me.
[49:55.640 --> 50:01.520]  Now we're six months later, and they're being investigated, and I don't know if they knew
[50:01.520 --> 50:07.760]  the video was presented or not, but they talked as if they didn't know there was video, because
[50:07.760 --> 50:08.760]  they straight up lied.
[50:08.760 --> 50:10.600]  They said, no, we didn't deny him service.
[50:10.600 --> 50:12.480]  We said he could come in.
[50:12.480 --> 50:14.120]  And then they made up a story.
[50:14.120 --> 50:20.200]  They said, I wanted to go in with my friends, which my landlord and his wife went in with
[50:20.200 --> 50:22.760]  the mask on and got treated.
[50:22.760 --> 50:25.400]  So their stories don't add up.
[50:25.400 --> 50:26.400]  None of it makes any sense.
[50:26.400 --> 50:29.320]  And so they're stating that now I'm the issue.
[50:29.320 --> 50:30.320]  That's what's in the report.
[50:30.320 --> 50:34.760]  And it's not completely that I'm the issue, they're just twisting the story.
[50:34.760 --> 50:40.600]  And so they believe that story and told me we have no way to know if they were lying
[50:40.600 --> 50:41.600]  or not.
[50:41.600 --> 50:45.760]  And that's why I said, well, you certainly do, it's in the video.
[50:45.760 --> 50:48.720]  But back to your political part, they did cite them.
[50:48.720 --> 50:53.600]  They said they violated the MTAL Act specifically, but with regards to logging me, they're supposed
[50:53.600 --> 51:01.240]  to have my name and why I was presented at the emergency room and why I was denied service.
[51:01.240 --> 51:07.960]  But their counter lie is that, well, the reason is it because I left and they couldn't get
[51:07.960 --> 51:09.520]  my name, which is a complete lie.
[51:09.520 --> 51:11.040]  I sat outside for almost three hours.
[51:11.040 --> 51:15.280]  That's the night that I called you guys from outside the emergency room.
[51:15.280 --> 51:22.560]  So yeah, I don't know how to unravel the politics of this.
[51:22.560 --> 51:27.160]  If it may be going on or not, I'm seeing just straight up incompetence.
[51:27.160 --> 51:28.160]  But you're right.
[51:28.160 --> 51:29.160]  There could be some politics.
[51:29.160 --> 51:36.800]  They may be covering for both sides to make it amendable to however, but no, it's not
[51:36.800 --> 51:37.800]  okay.
[51:37.800 --> 51:40.840]  This hospital has a horrific, horrific reputation.
[51:40.840 --> 51:46.560]  I think I've probably talked to 30 people in the past two years and almost all of them
[51:46.560 --> 51:51.520]  have a negative remark about that hospital.
[51:51.520 --> 51:59.640]  So I don't know who's saving who or who's covering for who, but there's now a government
[51:59.640 --> 52:03.960]  document out there with lies in it that has my name attached to it, or at least actually
[52:03.960 --> 52:10.200]  my name's not in here, but it's not accurate at all.
[52:10.200 --> 52:11.720]  Most of it's not.
[52:11.720 --> 52:17.560]  Well, have you considered sending the hospital a tort letter and then filing professional
[52:17.560 --> 52:23.400]  conduct complaints against each of those in the interaction?
[52:23.400 --> 52:29.120]  You file a professional conduct complaint, you get a different team looking at it.
[52:29.120 --> 52:30.840]  Professional conduct complaint.
[52:30.840 --> 52:31.840]  Yeah.
[52:31.840 --> 52:35.240]  Whoever, did you talk to any doctors?
[52:35.240 --> 52:38.840]  No, I never got in the front door.
[52:38.840 --> 52:40.840]  So it was all nurses?
[52:40.840 --> 52:46.960]  Yeah, there was a intake nurse and then I asked for a supervisor nurse and that's called
[52:46.960 --> 52:47.960]  a charge nurse.
[52:47.960 --> 52:50.240]  I just learned that two days ago.
[52:50.240 --> 52:56.040]  And then there was an administrative manager in regular dress clothes, civilian clothes,
[52:56.040 --> 52:57.040]  dress clothes.
[52:57.040 --> 53:00.200]  So manager of some sort, not scrubs.
[53:00.200 --> 53:01.200]  And then a security guard.
[53:01.200 --> 53:07.440]  I don't know why he was there, but he came in to, I guess he was bored, to try to give
[53:07.440 --> 53:10.640]  me lectures on policy.
[53:10.640 --> 53:18.160]  So, and it's all on camera, it's all everything they're saying and doing and standing by.
[53:18.160 --> 53:26.920]  And so, yeah, I start with these licensing agencies, the ones that license nurses and
[53:26.920 --> 53:30.840]  doctors, they're pretty strict.
[53:30.840 --> 53:36.000]  So you might go, I'm not sure if it'd be the medical board.
[53:36.000 --> 53:43.320]  But I don't know who licenses nurses in Colorado.
[53:43.320 --> 53:47.040]  We Wyoming, but yeah, I don't either.
[53:47.040 --> 53:50.320]  Find out whoever it is, that's easy enough to find out.
[53:50.320 --> 53:58.160]  And then file a complaint against each one of the nurses with them and give them their
[53:58.160 --> 54:01.440]  videos and see if they look at it.
[54:01.440 --> 54:11.400]  If you can get a negative report from them, your lawsuits pretty well res judicata.
[54:11.400 --> 54:14.800]  Well, that was what I was after.
[54:14.800 --> 54:20.320]  I was after, you know, when you see the video, it's pretty clear what happened.
[54:20.320 --> 54:24.000]  And so you decide with that or not.
[54:24.000 --> 54:26.400]  But what's interesting is they knew they messed up.
[54:26.400 --> 54:30.920]  And that's why they doubled down and they said, I mean, it's even in here.
[54:30.920 --> 54:35.800]  Inmobility to breathe, like I never even said that, extreme difficulty breathing.
[54:35.800 --> 54:43.400]  And so they were acknowledging that, but at the time they certainly weren't.
[54:43.400 --> 54:44.400]  So I wanted that.
[54:44.400 --> 54:51.440]  I definitely wanted a succinct ruling or judgment from the governing agencies saying, yeah,
[54:51.440 --> 54:53.280]  you guys violated this aspect of it.
[54:53.280 --> 54:54.800]  You have no right to do that.
[54:54.800 --> 54:58.880]  And therefore I walk into a lawsuit and it's pretty heavy on them.
[54:58.880 --> 55:03.960]  But now, now I've got to, I've got to somehow defend myself before I even walk into that
[55:03.960 --> 55:07.400]  because there, there's lies in here about what really happened.
[55:07.400 --> 55:08.400]  And so-
[55:08.400 --> 55:11.440]  Well, the lies are good for you.
[55:11.440 --> 55:16.240]  Don't get them to change the lies now.
[55:16.240 --> 55:19.760]  You want the lies in front of a jury.
[55:19.760 --> 55:21.720]  Exactly.
[55:21.720 --> 55:26.120]  That's true.
[55:26.120 --> 55:28.120]  They can't, but they can't unring the bell.
[55:28.120 --> 55:29.480]  I've got a document sitting here.
[55:29.480 --> 55:30.480]  I printed it.
[55:30.480 --> 55:31.480]  I've got the PDF.
[55:31.480 --> 55:36.560]  They can't unring that bell, even if they change this document, those lies are, they're
[55:36.560 --> 55:38.480]  out there.
[55:38.480 --> 55:40.640]  Okay.
[55:40.640 --> 55:42.560]  What claim would you bring?
[55:42.560 --> 55:45.440]  What would be the cause of action?
[55:45.440 --> 55:51.240]  That's my, that was my other question because I can't get an attorney to really talk to
[55:51.240 --> 55:52.240]  me.
[55:52.240 --> 55:58.680]  This is the darker side of what attorney's motives and so they give you the three legs
[55:58.680 --> 56:05.400]  of a case, injury, deep pockets and culpability.
[56:05.400 --> 56:08.200]  Those are the three legs of a case.
[56:08.200 --> 56:16.680]  The hospital has deep pockets and with the video, you've got culpability.
[56:16.680 --> 56:25.680]  Let's see, causes of action, suits against government, the doctrine of sovereign and
[56:25.680 --> 56:30.760]  governmental immunity, breach of contract, discharge of public employees with sublaw
[56:30.760 --> 56:32.720]  or wrongful imprisonment.
[56:32.720 --> 56:35.680]  I'm going down through this.
[56:35.680 --> 56:40.600]  This is O'Connor's causes of action on the inside of the front page.
[56:40.600 --> 56:47.520]  They list all of these different causes of action.
[56:47.520 --> 56:49.560]  So there's a negligence aspect to this.
[56:49.560 --> 56:55.000]  That's one of the cores, but here's what one of the, I did talk to one attorney who had
[56:55.000 --> 57:01.880]  done an EMTALA case before, but he himself, he was sitting there, you could hear him scratching
[57:01.880 --> 57:08.200]  his head almost, trying to figure out what are the damages for breaking a federal act
[57:08.200 --> 57:14.680]  in denying service because, I mean, technically I was troubled by it and inconvenienced by
[57:14.680 --> 57:18.760]  it, but it didn't necessarily further damage my injuries.
[57:18.760 --> 57:22.240]  It just prolonged my access to therapy.
[57:22.240 --> 57:36.240]  So we're, how about attempted murder, depraved heart order.
[57:36.240 --> 57:44.840]  Medical malpractice, medical malpractice under CPRC 74, Civil Practices Remedies Code.
[57:44.840 --> 57:48.200]  That's specific to Texas.
[57:48.200 --> 57:50.720]  Negligence by managed care facility.
[57:50.720 --> 58:00.800]  Well, I know what it's like to be without air and struggling to take your next breath.
[58:00.800 --> 58:06.680]  And so this lawyer who's just looking around, well, you weren't actually harmed.
[58:06.680 --> 58:11.040]  No, I don't agree with him on that.
[58:11.040 --> 58:12.040]  That's harm for sure.
[58:12.040 --> 58:13.040]  Yeah.
[58:13.040 --> 58:14.040]  I needed an oxygen mask, right?
[58:14.040 --> 58:15.040]  You talking about asthma or something like that?
[58:15.040 --> 58:16.040]  Yeah.
[58:16.040 --> 58:17.040]  Yeah.
[58:17.040 --> 58:27.080]  I mean, I wasn't like that, but I was certainly gasping for air and I gasped for air for another
[58:27.080 --> 58:28.080]  two weeks almost.
[58:28.080 --> 58:29.080]  My chest hurt that bad.
[58:29.080 --> 58:39.000]  Okay, hang on, go into our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Wheel of Law Radio,
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[01:02:22.120 --> 01:02:26.600]  That imagery reminds me that the Fourth Amendment guarantees Americans freedom from unreasonable
[01:02:26.600 --> 01:02:28.080]  search and seizure.
[01:02:28.080 --> 01:02:31.240]  Fourth Amendment, four eyes staring at you, get it?
[01:02:31.240 --> 01:02:34.560]  Unfortunately, the government is trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in the name of
[01:02:34.560 --> 01:02:35.560]  security.
[01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:40.080]  That's in point, TSA airport scanners that peer under your clothing.
[01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:44.120]  When government employees demand a peep at your privates without probable cause, I say
[01:02:44.120 --> 01:02:46.920]  it's time to sound the constitutional alarm bells.
[01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:51.200]  Join me in asking our representatives to dust off the Bill of Rights and use their googly
[01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:53.480]  eyes to take a gander at the Fourth.
[01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:55.280]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:23.040]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:03:23.040 --> 01:03:52.280]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelton, Brett Thompson, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:03:52.280 --> 01:04:03.480]  On this Friday, the ninth day of June, 2023, and we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:12.480]  Chris, it sounds like you do have a good suit and the trick is writing up the suit so they
[01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.960]  don't want to adjudicate it in their rights to your check.
[01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:22.760]  And the hospital's got deep pockets.
[01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.000]  Yeah.
[01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.720]  I just, I don't, I mean, I got two months to do it.
[01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:35.480]  I guess I got enough time.
[01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:37.080]  I really wish that-
[01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:43.320]  When you file your suit, it does not have to be perfect.
[01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:47.080]  It does not have to have all of the claims in it.
[01:04:47.080 --> 01:04:56.160]  It just needs to be a suit based on this interaction and it stops the clock.
[01:04:56.160 --> 01:05:01.840]  You're always going to file an amended.
[01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:04.320]  So don't worry about having it perfect.
[01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:05.320]  Just get something in.
[01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:06.320]  Okay.
[01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:17.120]  Did I tell you about the first foreclosure suit that I did?
[01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:18.120]  I probably-
[01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:19.120]  This is a good-
[01:05:19.120 --> 01:05:20.120]  I don't know which one.
[01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:24.920]  This is a good example.
[01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.880]  Steve Skidmore came to me and said, I need your help.
[01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:31.000]  I got an eviction hearing in two days.
[01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.800]  That means they've already foreclosed on his property now that they're trying to throw
[01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.800]  him out of it.
[01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.440]  And he's got two days, said I need a lawsuit.
[01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.080]  I told him, I'm still doing my research.
[01:05:43.080 --> 01:05:44.080]  I don't have one.
[01:05:44.080 --> 01:05:45.080]  Well, I don't have time for research.
[01:05:45.080 --> 01:05:46.080]  I gotta have one.
[01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:50.360]  So I went on the internet and I did a little research and pulled down some arguments, stuck
[01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:53.640]  him in a lawsuit, gave him to him, he filed it.
[01:05:53.640 --> 01:06:00.520]  30 days later or 20 some days later, the other side responded and said, your honor, this
[01:06:00.520 --> 01:06:02.520]  suit's a piece of crap.
[01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:08.560]  It's all just taken out of the internet and copied and pasted into the suit.
[01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:09.560]  That was true.
[01:06:09.560 --> 01:06:10.560]  It was.
[01:06:10.560 --> 01:06:13.120]  And it was a bunch of crap.
[01:06:13.120 --> 01:06:15.480]  The judge took 90 days.
[01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.960]  He comes back and he rules, it's a bunch of crap.
[01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.960]  Fix it.
[01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:23.920]  He gave us either 30 or 60, I don't remember, to fix it.
[01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.760]  So I wrote another one and it was better.
[01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.280]  They came back, this one's a piece of crap and the judge said, yeah, this one's a piece
[01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:32.280]  of crap.
[01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.160]  We've got one more chance.
[01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:36.360]  So now we're six months out already.
[01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:42.320]  Well, they went to the eviction hearing and showed him the lawsuit and the JP said, there's
[01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:46.360]  a claim against the title, I don't have jurisdiction, get out of my court.
[01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.200]  So it stopped the eviction.
[01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:52.800]  It was seven years later.
[01:06:52.800 --> 01:07:01.480]  He's still in court with him and they tripped him up on a procedural error, but we got it
[01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:02.480]  in.
[01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.440]  It had two days to get it in and got something in.
[01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:08.360]  Get something in.
[01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.840]  Don't worry about it being perfect.
[01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:14.200]  Don't worry about major flaws with it.
[01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:16.720]  Just get something in.
[01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:21.920]  And the other side will come back and tell you what's wrong with it and then you can
[01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:22.920]  fix it.
[01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:30.520]  You get to use their lawyers to do your research for you.
[01:07:30.520 --> 01:07:33.240]  So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[01:07:33.240 --> 01:07:34.920]  No, that's my plan.
[01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.760]  That's my default.
[01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:43.000]  I did the complaint against the insurance company in a day and a half just recently,
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  and I might not actually need to change much on it, but that was my game, you know, get
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.880]  past the statute of limitations.
[01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.200]  I just really want some help on this.
[01:07:54.200 --> 01:08:00.160]  I figured a law firm would jump all over this one and they're not.
[01:08:00.160 --> 01:08:03.640]  And I've talked to a lot in the past couple of weeks.
[01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:11.600]  We got the channel and we got a lot of people on there.
[01:08:11.600 --> 01:08:16.320]  You know, one lawyer said something very interesting though.
[01:08:16.320 --> 01:08:19.760]  He was talking about, he was very kind, he was actually very empathetic.
[01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.880]  He's just like, I got to be honest with you, it's just two of us at this law firm.
[01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:24.880]  We do a lot.
[01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:31.440]  He says, I have another partner down in Denver who I lean on for medical malpractice cases,
[01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:35.380]  but I'm going to tell you, he's going to say no, because if it's less than a few hundred
[01:08:35.380 --> 01:08:39.240]  thousand dollars, it's not worth it for him because it's two medical malpractice cases
[01:08:39.240 --> 01:08:40.240]  are immense.
[01:08:40.240 --> 01:08:42.700]  And he says, I'm going to be honest with you too.
[01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:47.560]  Most people lose them because the courts, people send aside with the doctors.
[01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:54.380]  So it's a hard one, but he said, if you could find a law firm that would spin this into
[01:08:54.380 --> 01:08:59.640]  a PR nightmare for the hospital, since you have video, that's where I would go.
[01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:03.200]  He said, if you can find somebody that'll do that, he said, I don't know anybody, but
[01:09:03.200 --> 01:09:09.720]  if they get video out in the news, especially now that the masks have been proven to not
[01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:16.800]  work and then beyond that, you've got people denying you access when you can't breathe.
[01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.100]  That's a nightmare for them, but you've got to get somebody who specializes in that type
[01:09:20.100 --> 01:09:21.100]  of thing.
[01:09:21.100 --> 01:09:24.960]  That's actually really the angle I'd like to take, but I don't, I don't know where
[01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:25.960]  to start for that one.
[01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:35.380]  You know, YouTube, for one thing, how long is this video or how long is the pertinent
[01:09:35.380 --> 01:09:37.080]  part of the video?
[01:09:37.080 --> 01:09:41.000]  Oh, it's the whole thing.
[01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.000]  It's just not stuff.
[01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:52.840]  Break it up, reformat it into about 10 minutes and just make it as scathing as you can.
[01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:58.000]  Get somebody who knows how to format, you know, cut and paste the video who can master
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:01.640]  it for you.
[01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:07.600]  You start putting that out, the hospital is likely to have a fit about it and they may
[01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:15.120]  actually pay the filing fee and sue you so then you get to countersue.
[01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:19.320]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:10:19.320 --> 01:10:22.560]  Well, maybe that's a good idea.
[01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:28.800]  Maybe I do do that, but okay, I'll, regardless, I'll file something that I got till August
[01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:30.800]  5th to do it.
[01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:36.000]  I'll get something in and I'll find out who regulates the health department.
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  I'm hoping it is a federal regulation somewhere, hopefully it is the CMS.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.040]  And who licenses those nurses?
[01:10:44.040 --> 01:10:47.120]  You need to hammer them.
[01:10:47.120 --> 01:10:48.120]  Yeah.
[01:10:48.120 --> 01:10:55.280]  Well, these are just some nurses, there's no doctors involved in this.
[01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:56.280]  That's true.
[01:10:56.280 --> 01:11:04.560]  And nurses are just the slaves, so they're not likely to cover them as much.
[01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:08.880]  That's true.
[01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:16.680]  And these nurses, you can claim if a doctor had looked at you, he would never have required
[01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:22.600]  a mask, but the nurses were acting from incompetence.
[01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:31.880]  Yeah, but it was four people, like it was a swarm of them, two nurses and their boss,
[01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.520]  their administrative boss and the security guard all mouthing the same phrases.
[01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:41.160]  I mean, it's, it was a hurt, but incompetence, what do you call it?
[01:11:41.160 --> 01:11:42.160]  Good.
[01:11:42.160 --> 01:11:43.160]  Yeah.
[01:11:43.160 --> 01:11:44.160]  A gang.
[01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:46.160]  How many you have to have to have a gang?
[01:11:46.160 --> 01:11:47.160]  Yeah.
[01:11:47.160 --> 01:11:48.160]  Gang riot.
[01:11:48.160 --> 01:11:49.160]  No.
[01:11:49.160 --> 01:11:50.160]  All right.
[01:11:50.160 --> 01:11:51.160]  Well, I'll keep digging.
[01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:56.040]  I mean, obviously I'm not going to stop.
[01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:57.880]  I've already been on the horn trying to find somebody.
[01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.760]  I mean, I called the governor's office too and that woman was upset because I was asking
[01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:06.320]  her to do something.
[01:12:06.320 --> 01:12:07.320]  She was mad.
[01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:17.120]  It seems to be something in the water up there and Cheyenne, I mean, like my goodness, but
[01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:18.120]  I'll keep on it.
[01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:20.520]  I'll get, I'll keep digging guys and I'll, I'll figure it out.
[01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:26.360]  And then do you have anybody waiting to say that again?
[01:12:26.360 --> 01:12:27.760]  I just have one more quick question.
[01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.960]  I didn't know if there's, that there's a bunch of people waiting.
[01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:30.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:31.960]  Yeah.
[01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:33.880]  There are two, but it's Tina and Ted.
[01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:35.640]  Ted's call back.
[01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:39.200]  Ted, did you want to talk to Chris?
[01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:41.840]  Did you call back because of Chris?
[01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:42.840]  Yes.
[01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:43.840]  Yes.
[01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:44.840]  Okay.
[01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:50.520]  What, what did you want to say to Chris or ask?
[01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:58.680]  Chris, for the nurses, it's the Colorado department of regulatory agencies and you can verify
[01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:03.920]  nurse licenses there and I'm sure you can make a complaint there.
[01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:15.360]  And then what I would do, I would find a local news channel that has like a consumer watchdog
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:18.200]  type person that does stories.
[01:13:18.200 --> 01:13:24.200]  And I would, I would just, they'll, they'll jump over this kind of story that the hospital
[01:13:24.200 --> 01:13:27.000]  refused service.
[01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.000]  They love these kinds of stories.
[01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:36.560]  So just all you gotta do is write, find, find out like in San Jose, it's seven on your side.
[01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:40.440]  You just write in and tell them what happened briefly.
[01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:47.600]  You need to, you need to find, ask around and add, find out who the most no good rotten
[01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:56.560]  SOB yellow journalist around.
[01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:57.560]  Somebody like me.
[01:13:57.560 --> 01:13:59.880]  This is in Wyoming.
[01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:01.160]  There's not a lot of people up there.
[01:14:01.160 --> 01:14:08.080]  I don't know what the population is up in Wyoming, but it's like a fraction.
[01:14:08.080 --> 01:14:15.160]  It won't take too many to get a lot of negative feedback on the hospital.
[01:14:15.160 --> 01:14:19.760]  Yeah, well, maybe this is a lesson in timing.
[01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:24.840]  I mean, I don't, are we, I know, I know we're about to flip on this whole pandemic thing.
[01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:30.840]  I mean, everybody on this channel was flipped a long time ago, but I think the general population
[01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:38.440]  is about to flip because there's so much coming out about mask and I mean, it was already
[01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:39.440]  out.
[01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:40.440]  It's just that everybody's starting to believe it.
[01:14:40.440 --> 01:14:44.320]  Wyoming is supposed to be one of those states that's very conservative and red.
[01:14:44.320 --> 01:14:48.120]  And yet they're, I've been to some of those political meetings, they're, they're some
[01:14:48.120 --> 01:14:50.900]  of the most timid people out there.
[01:14:50.900 --> 01:14:53.000]  They don't, they want somebody else to take care of it.
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:56.600]  And this is like Wyoming, you know?
[01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:58.680]  So maybe it's a matter of timing.
[01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:03.360]  I, you know, just, just in the next little bit, people are going to flip a lot and I
[01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:06.520]  can, I can start playing these games with the media.
[01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:12.480]  Maybe you're in the right place, the right time to help them flip.
[01:15:12.480 --> 01:15:17.600]  What if this was your daughter or your son that was taken to the hospital after an accident
[01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.840]  and he can't breathe and nurses do that to him or her?
[01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:23.840]  Yeah.
[01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:24.840]  Good point.
[01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:25.840]  Yeah.
[01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:29.680]  Well, there's, there's already a string of stories before I even showed up.
[01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.480]  There was a, one of the senators up there who was fighting pretty hard for a lot of
[01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:36.820]  the rights and gun rights and things like that up there.
[01:15:36.820 --> 01:15:40.320]  They were killing his daughter at this hospital, literally.
[01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:43.880]  He told us one day, there was a group of people outside the Capitol and he was talking about
[01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:44.880]  his daughter.
[01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:49.640]  He was talking about this hospital and he took them down to the next town across the
[01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:52.880]  border in Colorado's Fort Collins and a much better hospital.
[01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:55.600]  He took her there and they saved her life.
[01:15:55.600 --> 01:16:03.960]  So this contact this guy, you may have a hero in your corner and I should have, I forgot
[01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:04.960]  about that.
[01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:05.960]  Yeah.
[01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:09.040]  I never thought about that.
[01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:10.640]  My bad.
[01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.200]  This guy's got an extra brand already.
[01:16:13.200 --> 01:16:14.200]  Yeah.
[01:16:14.200 --> 01:16:24.440]  In Wyoming, in Wyoming, it's the state board of nursing right on the main page.
[01:16:24.440 --> 01:16:28.000]  There's a toggle for filing a complaint.
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.720]  Oh, cool.
[01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:31.720]  State board.
[01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:32.720]  Okay.
[01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:33.720]  Thank you.
[01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:34.720]  Okay.
[01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:40.520]  I guess my other question can wait.
[01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:41.520]  That's another topic.
[01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.280]  It's a quick one, but I'll let you guys go.
[01:16:44.280 --> 01:16:45.280]  Well, that's okay.
[01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:50.120]  Ted just called about you, so the only one we've got left is Tina and we've got three
[01:16:50.120 --> 01:16:51.120]  segments.
[01:16:51.120 --> 01:16:54.400]  So on the other side, we'll give you one more question.
[01:16:54.400 --> 01:17:00.240]  Randy Kelton, Burkitt Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:50.120]  No.
[01:18:50.120 --> 01:18:51.120]  I mean, yes.
[01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:54.200]  Wow, giving without doing anything or spending any money.
[01:18:54.200 --> 01:18:55.200]  This is perfect.
[01:18:55.200 --> 01:18:56.880]  Thank you so much.
[01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:58.460]  We are welcome.
[01:18:58.460 --> 01:19:27.760]  Happy holidays, Logos.
[01:19:28.460 --> 01:19:46.680]  Okay.
[01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:47.680]  We are back.
[01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:48.680]  Randy Kelton.
[01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:49.680]  Brett Fountain.
[01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:50.680]  We Love Radio.
[01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:54.160]  We're talking to Chris and Ted and we've got Tina.
[01:19:54.160 --> 01:19:57.160]  Hello, Tina.
[01:19:57.160 --> 01:20:01.560]  Hello, I'm going to try to stay awake for you.
[01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:02.560]  Okay.
[01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:03.560]  Hang on.
[01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:04.560]  We'll get to you shortly.
[01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:07.240]  We've got one more question from Chris.
[01:20:07.240 --> 01:20:12.240]  I know, but it's my bedtime.
[01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:13.240]  Okay.
[01:20:13.240 --> 01:20:16.120]  Chris, what do you have for us?
[01:20:16.120 --> 01:20:20.000]  Why don't you add one quick question about us, the peanut.
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:26.320]  So we had interrogatories, but this is about the suit in Chicago.
[01:20:26.320 --> 01:20:32.440]  We had interrogatories and they were playing games, so I filed a motion to compel.
[01:20:32.440 --> 01:20:37.480]  And then in their answer to motion to compel, in opposition of the motion to compel, they
[01:20:37.480 --> 01:20:41.360]  actually answered some of the stuff that they were refusing to answer.
[01:20:41.360 --> 01:20:46.600]  So obviously they knew they weren't supposed to withhold that stuff.
[01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.400]  But what's interesting is I also subpoenaed the insurance company for the same records
[01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:55.400]  because I wanted to double whammy them and make sure I got stuff.
[01:20:55.400 --> 01:21:01.200]  And I got an email two days ago from the insurance company saying, I understand that our deadline
[01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:07.040]  is by Tuesday, but can you give me till the 22nd?
[01:21:07.040 --> 01:21:09.760]  And I didn't, I didn't, I was busy, so I didn't even respond to it.
[01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:11.340]  And that was early in the morning.
[01:21:11.340 --> 01:21:16.760]  And then, so he confirmed that he had a deadline of next Tuesday, that's three weeks.
[01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:20.800]  And then he wanted an extra week.
[01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:25.460]  And so I'm thinking, God, man, I don't know what they're doing, but they're stretching
[01:21:25.460 --> 01:21:26.460]  it out.
[01:21:26.460 --> 01:21:27.460]  They need more time.
[01:21:27.460 --> 01:21:28.460]  Fine.
[01:21:28.460 --> 01:21:29.460]  Then later that day, he emails me back.
[01:21:29.460 --> 01:21:31.400]  He says, disregard my previous email.
[01:21:31.400 --> 01:21:36.840]  Here is our response to your subpoena.
[01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.680]  And they emailed a bunch of stuff, but they're missing some stuff.
[01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:47.640]  And I thought that very strange that now you need another, you needed another two weeks,
[01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:53.360]  that same day you decided now you don't, and you do forward stuff.
[01:21:53.360 --> 01:21:57.320]  And that's a good move I haven't.
[01:21:57.320 --> 01:22:02.080]  Maybe he found what he was looking for.
[01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:03.960]  You never ask for how much time you need.
[01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:09.240]  You always ask for a lot more.
[01:22:09.240 --> 01:22:10.240]  Maybe.
[01:22:10.240 --> 01:22:11.240]  Okay.
[01:22:11.240 --> 01:22:12.240]  Still weird.
[01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:13.240]  Yeah.
[01:22:13.240 --> 01:22:21.160]  My mind's go, I mean, you know, I'm pretty pessimistic about a lot of stuff.
[01:22:21.160 --> 01:22:24.600]  I think we're all kind of in burn so many times we just think like, what kind of game
[01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:25.600]  are they playing?
[01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:29.520]  And, and to me, it just seems like they, you know, I don't know.
[01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:30.760]  I'm just, that's why I'm asking.
[01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:35.080]  It seems like, cause they, they, they, they didn't respond to everything they, some they're
[01:22:35.080 --> 01:22:36.080]  saying they don't have it.
[01:22:36.080 --> 01:22:40.920]  And some of this and blah, blah, blah, well, whatever.
[01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.680]  But it's interesting, they wanted more time.
[01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:47.040]  So I thought it, I thought it was a time play because obviously they're talking to the fence
[01:22:47.040 --> 01:22:50.120]  attorney and they're getting some coaching there on that.
[01:22:50.120 --> 01:22:51.600]  So I don't know.
[01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:55.240]  I didn't know how to think about that one.
[01:22:55.240 --> 01:22:57.280]  Okay.
[01:22:57.280 --> 01:23:01.880]  Discovery games before.
[01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:02.880]  Yeah.
[01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:06.760]  Discovery is always, they always play games with it.
[01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:08.480]  They always try to stretch it out.
[01:23:08.480 --> 01:23:12.080]  That's the thing they hate the most is discovery.
[01:23:12.080 --> 01:23:17.360]  They don't want to give you something you can ultimately use against them.
[01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:22.600]  It's kind of, kind of like you're directing them to shoot themselves in the foot.
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:26.040]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:23:26.040 --> 01:23:27.040]  It is, it is interesting.
[01:23:27.040 --> 01:23:28.040]  Well, I got it.
[01:23:28.040 --> 01:23:29.040]  I was on the side of that too.
[01:23:29.040 --> 01:23:32.560]  They were asking me for a bunch of stuff that just, I didn't want to answer you that cause
[01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:33.560]  it's none of it.
[01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:37.800]  It's just, it doesn't, it's not relevant, but I guess discovery opens your whole life
[01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:42.720]  up to stuff in some ways, but well, what they don't know is that they, I just filed the
[01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:44.080]  insurance complaint today.
[01:23:44.080 --> 01:23:47.720]  So they've got a complaint coming towards them next week and they have to respond to
[01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.160]  a whole different angle of this case.
[01:23:50.160 --> 01:23:54.760]  So we'll see how they do to that, but, and then a week, two weeks after that, they have
[01:23:54.760 --> 01:24:00.800]  a lawsuit that they're going to get served.
[01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.880]  It's going to be interesting to see how they, how they unravel all their actions current.
[01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:09.920]  So all right, well, if it's nothing egregious, what they did, then I'll just, I'll wait to
[01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:10.920]  see how it unfolds.
[01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:15.200]  Yeah, that's all I had.
[01:24:15.200 --> 01:24:16.200]  Thank you.
[01:24:16.200 --> 01:24:17.200]  Okay.
[01:24:17.200 --> 01:24:18.200]  Thank you, Chris.
[01:24:18.200 --> 01:24:21.040]  Ted, did you have anything else?
[01:24:21.040 --> 01:24:22.040]  Yeah.
[01:24:22.040 --> 01:24:29.280]  I really want Chris to get on this website because there's even a tab for public records
[01:24:29.280 --> 01:24:30.280]  request.
[01:24:30.280 --> 01:24:35.240]  So I sent a link to you, Randy, cause I have your email address.
[01:24:35.240 --> 01:24:44.320]  I sent you a link to this Wyoming nurse license website and see what it's called.
[01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:47.480]  I'm trying to go back to how I found it.
[01:24:47.480 --> 01:24:51.880]  It's the Wyoming state board of nursing.
[01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:54.320]  And Chris goes to that website.
[01:24:54.320 --> 01:25:00.080]  And then, like I said, there's even a toggle for him to do a records request.
[01:25:00.080 --> 01:25:02.600]  He can do a complaint form.
[01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:09.880]  And then regarding, you know, it's still patient abandonment and it's still malpractice.
[01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:12.180]  It's malpractice of a nurse.
[01:25:12.180 --> 01:25:18.000]  And just because he didn't die, that doesn't make it okay.
[01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:19.800]  Right.
[01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:21.400]  Okay.
[01:25:21.400 --> 01:25:25.920]  Thank you, Ted.
[01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:26.920]  Hang on, Ted.
[01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:28.920]  I've got Tina on there.
[01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:30.600]  Okay.
[01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:32.600]  What do you have for us today?
[01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:38.720]  Well, first, always, it's great to hear Ted on the calls.
[01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:41.480]  He's just such a wealth of information.
[01:25:41.480 --> 01:25:45.200]  I always enjoy talking with him and communicating.
[01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:55.120]  But I was going back to your guest speaker this evening and the ERC program, cause I've
[01:25:55.120 --> 01:26:01.720]  always been frustrated that attorney groups could take those PPP loans.
[01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:10.200]  Like the attorneys I'm going against took 6.9 million in a PPP loan and then got it
[01:26:10.200 --> 01:26:16.840]  all forgiven in the same year they earned $185 million, which according to what your
[01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:20.520]  guest was saying, that seems to be okay.
[01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:29.480]  So maybe you should go after all these attorney firms and get money from them.
[01:26:29.480 --> 01:26:34.840]  I mean, I would love to get money from the one I'm fighting, but they're never going
[01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:36.760]  to listen to someone like me.
[01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:42.720]  So maybe that's something you could think about doing if it's really true that they
[01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:50.240]  can get this ERC program and just go after the attorneys and get the money out of them.
[01:26:50.240 --> 01:26:56.640]  Because I'm disgusted that attorney groups that are foreclosing on people, throwing people
[01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:05.160]  out, can get all that money forgiven while they're earning $185 million a year.
[01:27:05.160 --> 01:27:17.120]  It seems just absolutely a crime, but if it isn't, find a way to make the money off someone
[01:27:17.120 --> 01:27:21.640]  with money.
[01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:24.960]  We're talking about the money changers here.
[01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:30.360]  I think I spoke to this last night about the money changers.
[01:27:30.360 --> 01:27:36.520]  Jesus went around the Holy Land preaching what the Pharisees considered heresy.
[01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:43.520]  But someone tried to get them to crucify them, I don't remember which one it was.
[01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.520]  And the Pharisees said, ah, he's not bothering anybody.
[01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:49.160]  We get this all the time, don't worry about it.
[01:27:49.160 --> 01:27:56.040]  It wasn't until he went into the temple and kicked over the tables at the money changers.
[01:27:56.040 --> 01:27:58.760]  That's where he got the bad boys.
[01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.120]  The banks have always been the baddest boy on the block.
[01:28:03.120 --> 01:28:05.920]  They always have and still are.
[01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:14.840]  Yeah, remember, we put that in our response when we sent it to the Texas, you know, on
[01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.280]  that complaint against McGinnity.
[01:28:17.280 --> 01:28:23.080]  We elaborated that whole thing that you had put, and it's still there.
[01:28:23.080 --> 01:28:25.120]  You are wrong.
[01:28:25.120 --> 01:28:26.900]  Good.
[01:28:26.900 --> 01:28:35.240]  I'm hoping that the prosecutor got an earful from all of these judges that I filed criminal
[01:28:35.240 --> 01:28:42.080]  complaints with because it's time I filed a notice to those judges of intent to sue
[01:28:42.080 --> 01:28:48.360]  for not issuing warrants, unless I've waited too long and my two years are up.
[01:28:48.360 --> 01:28:54.440]  How long has it been, Dana, since you filed those complaints?
[01:28:54.440 --> 01:28:58.680]  It might be getting close to two years, but I don't think it is two years.
[01:28:58.680 --> 01:28:59.680]  I'm not sure.
[01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:01.720]  I'd have to go back to my computer and look.
[01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:06.200]  But in the meantime, why don't you figure out how to get money from them all?
[01:29:06.200 --> 01:29:14.200]  Well, if I send a tort letter to each one of the judges, I want to get my lawsuit.
[01:29:14.200 --> 01:29:18.480]  I'm waiting for the other parties to do some corrections.
[01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:21.760]  I just talked to them today, and they're going to have them very shortly.
[01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:27.800]  Then I'll get my lawsuit filed and get it in the hands of all of these judges in the
[01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:35.000]  Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, where I've sued all of them personally.
[01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:38.600]  That'll get a lot of talk going around.
[01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:45.040]  Then I'll go back and file lawsuits against all of these district judges who refused to
[01:29:45.040 --> 01:29:52.160]  issue warrants when I filed criminal complaints against the district attorney.
[01:29:52.160 --> 01:29:53.440]  Maybe we'll get their attention.
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[01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:49.960]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, we're talking to Tina in California.
[01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:50.960]  Okay.
[01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:54.800]  We want to go after these guys.
[01:34:54.800 --> 01:35:01.200]  I'll have my suit refiled here shortly and get all these guys served.
[01:35:01.200 --> 01:35:09.240]  Then if my time hasn't run out, I can make up criminal complaints for all the district
[01:35:09.240 --> 01:35:17.160]  judges for not acting on the criminal complaints that I, or not criminal, I'm sorry, let me
[01:35:17.160 --> 01:35:18.440]  take a step back.
[01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:26.760]  I'll make up a notice of intent to sue for each one of these judges, to sue in their
[01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:33.680]  personal capacity for not issuing a warrants against Garza.
[01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:36.400]  That'll get all their attention.
[01:35:36.400 --> 01:35:43.600]  And then we come back with these complaints back to Garza.
[01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:49.880]  Since you now have the Secretary of State supporting the assertion that they acted improperly,
[01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:53.680]  we come back with that and file a set of complaints.
[01:35:53.680 --> 01:36:01.240]  Maybe Garza would be softened up enough that he won't want to have any more of this fight.
[01:36:01.240 --> 01:36:07.080]  And every district judge in Travis County's PO'd him because I'm suing them in their
[01:36:07.080 --> 01:36:11.520]  personal capacity.
[01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:14.280]  That might have created enough politics.
[01:36:14.280 --> 01:36:18.400]  What do you think?
[01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:25.000]  I think it's a great idea and let's keep going and in the meantime, maybe use that ERC program
[01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:31.600]  to help get you some money from them because they're going to be greedy.
[01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:40.240]  These attorney groups, big firms, they might want to jump on board and get some of that
[01:36:40.240 --> 01:36:44.800]  and they won't know why you'll get, you know, you're offering this to them.
[01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:49.760]  They'll just be greedy enough to go after it and you get a percentage.
[01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:57.760]  As a matter of fact, one of my clients is maybe in a real good position to do this.
[01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.240]  So maybe we can get some dollar flow going.
[01:37:01.240 --> 01:37:04.000]  That would be really nice.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:08.840]  I could give you a whole list of attorney firms that got PPP loans that would probably
[01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:13.920]  want to go after some more money just because they think they can.
[01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:19.520]  So why don't you take advantage of it while you're still doing it but here at the same
[01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:20.520]  time?
[01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:26.320]  Yeah, make buddies with these lawyers before I kick their behinds.
[01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:29.640]  There you go.
[01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:30.640]  I can give you the list.
[01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:35.320]  I mean, obviously, they're not going to, you know, it's not no good me going to them and
[01:37:35.320 --> 01:37:38.800]  saying, oh, you know, offering you this because I'm already fighting them.
[01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:48.360]  But someone who's not directly fighting them but offer them this and set the trap, give
[01:37:48.360 --> 01:37:51.840]  them the bait and see if they go after it.
[01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:52.840]  What do you think?
[01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:53.840]  Yeah.
[01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:57.520]  There's some pretty big law firms out there.
[01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:08.120]  There are a bunch of them that fit within the space, 500 or less employees.
[01:38:08.120 --> 01:38:12.280]  There's a bunch of them out there.
[01:38:12.280 --> 01:38:13.280]  That's a good idea.
[01:38:13.280 --> 01:38:20.440]  I mean, if they had 220 employees.
[01:38:20.440 --> 01:38:21.440]  We say that again.
[01:38:21.440 --> 01:38:22.440]  That's a lot of employees.
[01:38:22.440 --> 01:38:23.440]  Yeah.
[01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:30.600]  Well, there's a lot of legal work, a lot of lawyers out there, a lot of struggling lawyers.
[01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.520]  I just looked at one Piper.
[01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:37.600]  I think they had like three or five thousand lawyers.
[01:38:37.600 --> 01:38:41.800]  But they're some of the biggest.
[01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:47.520]  But with, you know, 30 or 40 lawyers, there are lots of them out there.
[01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:48.520]  Yeah.
[01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:55.080]  So why don't you think about working with Scott and getting some of that while you're
[01:38:55.080 --> 01:38:57.920]  kicking their behind behind their back?
[01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.200]  They're not going to know it.
[01:39:00.200 --> 01:39:05.680]  Yeah, I could make up a mailing to all these law firms.
[01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:10.200]  Anyway, that is a good idea.
[01:39:10.200 --> 01:39:16.400]  Think about while you're you're attacking them all in Texas.
[01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:20.520]  You get these law firms to pay me to kick their behinds, give me the money I need to
[01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:21.520]  kick their behinds.
[01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:24.520]  Wouldn't that be wonderful?
[01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:27.360]  Yes, it would.
[01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:31.840]  I mean, that's that's sneaky enough to get all this PPP loans.
[01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:32.840]  They know the legal stuff.
[01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:37.960]  They know how to get it forgiven and they know how to earn money while they're getting
[01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:38.960]  it forgiven.
[01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:45.920]  So, you know, let's just use it against them.
[01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:47.440]  You get them to finance us.
[01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:49.040]  I can do that.
[01:39:49.040 --> 01:39:50.480]  That's a good idea.
[01:39:50.480 --> 01:39:55.560]  And then, you know, you know how much they've just earned, so you know how much they can
[01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:59.800]  pay to compensate people who they've devastated.
[01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:00.800]  Yes.
[01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:03.800]  You got the inside information.
[01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:09.600]  And your storage request would be just the right amount.
[01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:10.600]  Right.
[01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:17.400]  Okay, Tina, do you have anything else for us?
[01:40:17.400 --> 01:40:27.200]  Yeah, could you ask Scott if he knows how to find out who the attorneys, you know, getting
[01:40:27.200 --> 01:40:34.080]  insured by, you know, it would be really nice to find that out and he may know how to find
[01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:35.080]  it out.
[01:40:35.080 --> 01:40:43.000]  Well, the last I knew, there were nine underwriters of errors and omissions, and yeah, Scott may
[01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.960]  know who that is.
[01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:54.280]  And all of those were underwritten by Lloyds of London, so we can certainly ask Scott.
[01:40:54.280 --> 01:40:57.320]  Yeah, that would be great.
[01:40:57.320 --> 01:41:02.720]  Other than that, I got nothing else for you, and I'll let you go to someone else or finish
[01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:05.800]  the call with one of your wonderful servants.
[01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:06.800]  Okay.
[01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:10.640]  Well, we've got Dr. Joe in the background.
[01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:14.120]  Hello, Dr. Joe, are you there?
[01:41:14.120 --> 01:41:15.120]  I'm here.
[01:41:15.120 --> 01:41:16.120]  Can you hear me?
[01:41:16.120 --> 01:41:19.120]  Yes, I can.
[01:41:19.120 --> 01:41:21.280]  Good.
[01:41:21.280 --> 01:41:27.760]  You were wanting to talk about what a great governmental system we've got going and how
[01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:29.920]  efficient and effective it is.
[01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:35.640]  I know it's kind of grinding everything to, it's a crazy time.
[01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:40.640]  It's grinding everything to a halt on one side, and then Elon Musk and the high tech
[01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:46.520]  people are bringing robots and artificial intelligence into the mix.
[01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:53.840]  And eventually you'll be able to get anything you want for like almost nothing at all.
[01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.200]  It's a bizarre time to be alive.
[01:41:56.200 --> 01:42:05.960]  But I have to take my hat off to you and show my balding head your insight that in the absence
[01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:14.960]  of an examining trial, people are being incarcerated, and there's no evidence that there hasn't
[01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:16.360]  been an examining trial.
[01:42:16.360 --> 01:42:22.360]  There's no probable cause that's been established by a competent judicial authority.
[01:42:22.360 --> 01:42:27.640]  We have these prisons just full of thousands and thousands and thousands of people for
[01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:33.440]  whom there's never been an establishment of probable cause.
[01:42:33.440 --> 01:42:35.120]  This is crazy.
[01:42:35.120 --> 01:42:44.600]  The worst part is, is there is no 1617 order, and that's required in order for jurisdiction
[01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:45.600]  to exist.
[01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:51.440]  This is, it's kind of complex how it all fits together, but it all fits together really,
[01:42:51.440 --> 01:43:01.840]  really nice, even down to indictments for misdemeanors.
[01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:03.600]  It's all in there.
[01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:10.400]  These guys weave this together like a fine mosaic, and you take a mosaic and pull out
[01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:13.400]  one tile and look what happens to the mosaic.
[01:43:13.400 --> 01:43:16.720]  Yeah, it falls apart.
[01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:19.240]  And that's what they've done.
[01:43:19.240 --> 01:43:20.840]  They pulled a major tile out.
[01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:27.360]  They didn't realize it apparently when they did it, but it seems to have had consequences
[01:43:27.360 --> 01:43:31.240]  they didn't anticipate.
[01:43:31.240 --> 01:43:38.120]  On the channel, somebody commented about communist Russia, I mean communist China, and they were
[01:43:38.120 --> 01:43:44.400]  surprised when I told them that communist China incarcerates approximately 121 persons
[01:43:44.400 --> 01:43:55.600]  per 100,000, compared to the United States as a whole is 638, what the heck is that?
[01:43:55.600 --> 01:44:00.600]  Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[01:46:56.520 --> 01:47:08.360]  We are back and we're talking to Dr. Joe and Dr. Joe, we've been talking here lately
[01:47:08.360 --> 01:47:13.280]  about the psychological state of the nation.
[01:47:13.280 --> 01:47:24.200]  Will you talk about what technology has done and how it's affected the people as a whole?
[01:47:24.200 --> 01:47:33.200]  Randy, have you ever seen the United States Marines get together for a, you know, like
[01:47:33.200 --> 01:47:35.440]  a class reunion?
[01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:37.840]  Yes.
[01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:44.120]  These are fellows who marched in lockstep with each other for years.
[01:47:44.120 --> 01:47:49.720]  Left, right, left, right, left, right, you know?
[01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:55.720]  And here they are 50 years later and they still get together and they're in rapport.
[01:47:55.720 --> 01:48:02.440]  That rapport of marching together and doing everything they did together, 50 years later
[01:48:02.440 --> 01:48:05.320]  they're still in rapport.
[01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:12.480]  In today's society, this concept of rapport deprivation sickness is just staggering in
[01:48:12.480 --> 01:48:14.200]  its implications.
[01:48:14.200 --> 01:48:20.720]  It means that everybody has a horrible sense of being isolated and alienated and alone
[01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:23.960]  and wrong to a large extent.
[01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:30.080]  As I mentioned to you the other day, my sister who runs a clinic, she is a nurse practitioner,
[01:48:30.080 --> 01:48:38.560]  she said everyone, everyone without exception, has a tremendous sense of anxiety and everyone
[01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:43.360]  she sees has a sense, you know, tremendous clinical depression.
[01:48:43.360 --> 01:48:47.760]  She hands out, you know, antidepressants all day long.
[01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:55.440]  So I don't know how to express it, but many years ago when I was taking acupuncture, my
[01:48:55.440 --> 01:49:03.280]  acupuncture teacher from Japan said that someday in the future, not too far away, you will
[01:49:03.280 --> 01:49:11.620]  pay a terrible price for living on pre-made foods and watching television and taking drugs
[01:49:11.620 --> 01:49:18.560]  and not getting up when the sun rises and not going to bed when the sun sets.
[01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:19.560]  And he was right.
[01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:24.960]  There was a time when I lived on a Caribbean island for really not a very long period of
[01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:29.120]  time, but I was with a poor family and they didn't have electricity.
[01:49:29.120 --> 01:49:33.920]  They had a coal oil lamp, which to them was expensive to light.
[01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:38.220]  So when the sun went down, they turned the lamp on for about a half an hour.
[01:49:38.220 --> 01:49:46.880]  And then we all went to bed and in the morning, the chickens crowed, the cocks crowed, and
[01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:52.600]  we got up because the sun got up and in two weeks, my physiology straightened out and
[01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:59.440]  it became healthier than I ever experienced before then or have I ever experienced after.
[01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:06.280]  We're out of phase with the natural order and the end result is our children are psychotic.
[01:50:06.280 --> 01:50:09.880]  They're just completely out of their minds.
[01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:12.280]  And that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[01:50:12.280 --> 01:50:13.880]  Do you have anything to say?
[01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:19.200]  Yeah, you spoke about how long we've had fire.
[01:50:19.200 --> 01:50:23.680]  Humans have had a fire for as long as they were humans just about.
[01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:27.080]  Yeah, at least a million years.
[01:50:27.080 --> 01:50:32.720]  Every night, the sun would go down, they'd sit around the fire, they would talk, they
[01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:41.000]  would tell stories, they would commune with one another for two million years until about
[01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.880]  100 years ago.
[01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:52.680]  And we got electric lights and then we got all this technology moved on us very quickly
[01:50:52.680 --> 01:51:01.720]  and disrupted a style of living that we evolved with.
[01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:08.000]  And we as a species have not adjusted to it yet.
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:14.920]  And even for those people who don't believe in evolution, everyone must agree that for
[01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:20.600]  the last several thousand years since the Bible was written, people had a much more
[01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:21.600]  natural lifestyle.
[01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:26.760]  You know, you don't read in the Bible that so-and-so's wife was depressed and so-and-so
[01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:29.080]  was, you know, had anxiety syndrome.
[01:51:29.080 --> 01:51:30.960]  I mean, it just didn't exist.
[01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:35.440]  People didn't have these horrible feelings of alienation.
[01:51:35.440 --> 01:51:41.880]  There weren't mass murders in the same way that we have them on a routine basis.
[01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:46.360]  And my contention is this can only go on for so long.
[01:51:46.360 --> 01:51:52.000]  When I talk to young people, they are confused and disorientated for lack of—I mean, most
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:56.120]  of them have never touched the ground.
[01:51:56.120 --> 01:52:00.200]  You want to get a good sense of learning, cause, and effect?
[01:52:00.200 --> 01:52:08.080]  Build a stone fence using stones that weigh anywhere from 10, 5, 10, 15 pounds, 20 pounds.
[01:52:08.080 --> 01:52:14.640]  Build a stone wall, and you'll get a sense of reality that most people these days just
[01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:17.840]  can barely appreciate.
[01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:19.840]  That's where we're at.
[01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:28.720]  Yeah, and everywhere I go, I have someone on the Telegram channel talking about all
[01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:33.400]  of these mass murders were committed by people on SSRIs.
[01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:40.680]  Yes, I saw it on the web page in heavy murderers.
[01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:42.960]  Everybody's on SSRIs almost.
[01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:48.560]  Well, do you know what they do?
[01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:50.880]  You know what the SSRIs do?
[01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:54.240]  I've heard a lot of stuff about them.
[01:52:54.240 --> 01:52:58.920]  They cause all kinds of psychotic episodes.
[01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:07.400]  Well, there's a deficiency in various hormones, enzymes, and antibodies in people these days.
[01:53:07.400 --> 01:53:11.280]  My observation is primarily the food they eat.
[01:53:11.280 --> 01:53:17.240]  And so you have an inner synaptic cleft in between the neurons, and that's how they
[01:53:17.240 --> 01:53:18.240]  communicate.
[01:53:18.240 --> 01:53:22.600]  There's supposed to be hormones in there, and there's a deficiency of them.
[01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:29.960]  And the reuptake inhibitors stop the uptake on one side, where it's supposed to naturally
[01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:31.720]  normally occur.
[01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:35.640]  And that goes on for about six months, and they're fine.
[01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:39.000]  And they're not depressed or anxious or whatever they've got.
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:43.160]  And then one day, Mother Nature says, no, you really can't do that.
[01:53:43.160 --> 01:53:48.960]  And they snap, and they pick up a baseball bat and kill everybody around them.
[01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:54.400]  And the number of people on these SSRIs is astonishing.
[01:53:54.400 --> 01:53:56.560]  It's all over the place.
[01:53:56.560 --> 01:54:01.000]  That means that you're standing next to a person who at any moment could snap and go
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.720]  completely bonkers.
[01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:04.960]  And that's very common.
[01:54:04.960 --> 01:54:07.540]  That's what's going on here.
[01:54:07.540 --> 01:54:09.400]  By the way, did you take your meds, Randy?
[01:54:09.400 --> 01:54:10.400]  Are you OK?
[01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:11.400]  Are you taking your meds?
[01:54:11.400 --> 01:54:13.400]  No, I forgot to take my meds.
[01:54:13.400 --> 01:54:16.520]  Well, where you going to take your meds, Rick?
[01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:24.480]  I went to the VA, and at the time, I was 71.
[01:54:24.480 --> 01:54:27.680]  And the nurse said she's going through all these different things.
[01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:34.320]  She asked me about post-traumatic stress, and she asked me what meds I'm on.
[01:54:34.320 --> 01:54:37.280]  And I said, I'm not on any meds.
[01:54:37.280 --> 01:54:38.280]  What?
[01:54:38.280 --> 01:54:39.280]  What?
[01:54:39.280 --> 01:54:41.840]  Everybody's on meds.
[01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:46.720]  She couldn't believe that I was 71 years old and not on meds.
[01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:51.840]  Yeah, it's part of the culture.
[01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:56.800]  Everybody I see takes a handful of pills every day.
[01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:58.880]  Yeah.
[01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:02.200]  My wife has a box full of them.
[01:55:02.200 --> 01:55:03.200]  This is very serious.
[01:55:03.200 --> 01:55:09.200]  She comes in on a regular basis and asks me to do some research on the web to find out
[01:55:09.200 --> 01:55:15.200]  how these different drugs the doctors are giving her interact with one another, because
[01:55:15.200 --> 01:55:18.880]  she can't trust the doctors to do that.
[01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:21.400]  Let me get this straight.
[01:55:21.400 --> 01:55:25.800]  Your wife takes things and then researches what they're going to do to her?
[01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:30.560]  Well, the doctors give them to her, and then she brings them to me.
[01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:33.720]  She is smart enough to do that.
[01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:38.040]  She brings them to me because she's had such problems with bad interactions with these
[01:55:38.040 --> 01:55:39.040]  drugs.
[01:55:39.040 --> 01:55:43.520]  You've got an ENT, a ear, nose, and throat doctor, who gives her something for her sinus
[01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:44.520]  issue.
[01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:49.280]  Then you've got a neurologist who gives her something for her back issue.
[01:55:49.280 --> 01:55:54.200]  Then you've got a heart doctor who gives her something for her heart.
[01:55:54.200 --> 01:55:57.960]  These guys don't compare all these drugs together.
[01:55:57.960 --> 01:55:58.960]  My son was here.
[01:55:58.960 --> 01:56:01.840]  He's two PhDs.
[01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:09.160]  When we came out of the doctor's office, he said, we need some kind of a program where
[01:56:09.160 --> 01:56:16.900]  you can put in all the medicines that you take and the times that you take them and
[01:56:16.900 --> 01:56:19.880]  all of your conditions.
[01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:27.040]  That will then evaluate how all of these medicines interact with one another relative to the
[01:56:27.040 --> 01:56:28.680]  conditions that you have.
[01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:35.440]  Dr. Joe, what is the specialty that does that?
[01:56:35.440 --> 01:56:37.320]  That compares all of these drugs?
[01:56:37.320 --> 01:56:42.060]  Yeah, there's a specialty that that's all they do is they take all the drugs people
[01:56:42.060 --> 01:56:47.920]  take and look at why they take them and compare their effect.
[01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:49.560]  I'm not aware of that.
[01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:52.320]  Your pharmacist is supposed to do that.
[01:56:52.320 --> 01:57:00.640]  If an MD prescribes a bunch of drugs that have effects that are deleterious to the patient's
[01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:06.680]  health, the pharmacist is supposed to catch it and make sure that that doesn't go through.
[01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:15.000]  A hundred thousand people a year die of drugs that are properly prescribed by a licensed
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:16.480]  medical doctor.
[01:57:16.480 --> 01:57:21.440]  We take drugs like their candy and people have no idea just how dangerous they really
[01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:22.640]  are.
[01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:30.760]  If you get sick, you need to go to the doctor because only 45% of the deaths are caused
[01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.280]  by doctors.
[01:57:33.280 --> 01:57:36.840]  There's a 55% chance that he won't kill you.
[01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:39.680]  Yeah, you'll live through it.
[01:57:39.680 --> 01:57:43.560]  We're not a very health-orientated society.
[01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:49.120]  In Germany and Switzerland, people go to the health spa and they do exercise and hot baths
[01:57:49.120 --> 01:57:52.320]  and they try and take care of their health.
[01:57:52.320 --> 01:57:56.720]  They don't live on pills.
[01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.320]  People here don't know what exercise is.
[01:57:59.320 --> 01:58:00.600]  I didn't for a long time.
[01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:03.800]  I started exercising recently.
[01:58:03.800 --> 01:58:06.160]  I'm 70, almost 74.
[01:58:06.160 --> 01:58:11.240]  I can curl 50 pounds in each hand 10 times in a row.
[01:58:11.240 --> 01:58:13.120]  I do squats and bends with it.
[01:58:13.120 --> 01:58:18.240]  I do 150 setups a day with a 25-pound weight on my chest.
[01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:26.720]  At 74, exercise is wonderful, but it does hurt a little bit and we don't get in near
[01:58:26.720 --> 01:58:27.720]  enough of it.
[01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:31.720]  I feel healthier than I felt 30 years ago.
[01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:34.920]  Get out the weights, guys.
[01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:37.120]  We are out of time.
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