[00:00.000 --> 00:05.760]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[00:05.760 --> 00:09.420]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[00:09.420 --> 00:10.920]  Our liberty depends on it.
[00:10.920 --> 00:14.820]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[00:14.820 --> 00:16.920]  your First Amendment rights.
[00:16.920 --> 00:18.520]  Privacy is under attack.
[00:18.520 --> 00:22.120]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[00:22.120 --> 00:26.880]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too.
[00:26.880 --> 00:31.960]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[00:31.960 --> 00:34.640]  Privacy, it's worth hanging on to.
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[00:44.800 --> 00:47.760]  Spar, it's what fighters do.
[00:47.760 --> 00:51.240]  It's also how I remember the five guarantees of the First Amendment.
[00:51.240 --> 00:54.440]  If you plan to take away my rights, I'm going to spar with you.
[00:54.440 --> 01:01.560]  Spar with an extra P, S for speech, P for press, another P for petition, A for assembly,
[01:01.560 --> 01:02.920]  and R for religion.
[01:02.920 --> 01:07.040]  Most Americans are familiar with the First Amendment guarantees of free speech, press,
[01:07.040 --> 01:08.500]  assembly, and religion.
[01:08.500 --> 01:10.840]  But petition for redress is another matter.
[01:10.840 --> 01:14.560]  We have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[01:14.560 --> 01:18.080]  It means that if we're unhappy with what's going on in our government, we can spell out
[01:18.080 --> 01:20.760]  the reasons without fear of being thrown into jail.
[01:20.760 --> 01:22.700]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[01:22.700 --> 01:31.040]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[01:31.040 --> 01:34.720]  The Bill of Rights contains the first 10 amendments of our Constitution.
[01:34.720 --> 01:38.160]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect.
[01:38.160 --> 01:39.640]  Our liberty depends on it.
[01:39.640 --> 01:43.560]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[01:43.560 --> 01:46.680]  one of your constitutional rights.
[01:46.680 --> 01:48.280]  Privacy is under attack.
[01:48.280 --> 01:51.880]  When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again.
[01:51.880 --> 01:56.640]  And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish, too.
[01:56.640 --> 02:01.680]  So protect your rights, say no to surveillance, and keep your information to yourself.
[02:01.680 --> 02:04.400]  Privacy, it's worth hanging onto.
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[02:14.320 --> 02:20.160]  When I think of the Second Amendment, I visualize myself wrapping my two arms around the Bill
[02:20.160 --> 02:22.240]  of Rights in a big old bear hug.
[02:22.240 --> 02:26.720]  It's how I remember that the Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms, arms
[02:26.720 --> 02:30.600]  that embrace our freedoms and won't let anyone take them away without a fight.
[02:30.600 --> 02:31.600]  Get it?
[02:31.600 --> 02:32.600]  Two arms?
[02:32.600 --> 02:33.600]  Bear hug?
[02:33.600 --> 02:34.600]  Bear arms?
[02:34.600 --> 02:37.480]  The late Senator Hubert Humphrey captured the spirit of the Second Amendment so well
[02:37.480 --> 02:38.720]  when he said,
[02:38.720 --> 02:43.680]  The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government,
[02:43.680 --> 02:48.760]  one more safeguard against the tyranny, which now appears remote in America, but which historically
[02:48.760 --> 02:50.520]  has proved to always be possible.
[02:50.520 --> 02:52.400]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht.
[02:52.400 --> 03:19.440]  More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
[03:52.400 --> 04:12.880]  Okay, howdy, howdy, Randy Kelter, Brett Fountain, World of War Radio on this, the 19th day of
[04:12.880 --> 04:20.200]  May, 2023, our four-hour info marathon, we're halfway through.
[04:20.200 --> 04:28.760]  We got one empty slot on the board, call in number 512-646-1984, and we're talking to
[04:28.760 --> 04:29.760]  Tina in California.
[04:29.760 --> 04:37.640]  Okay, Tina, so you got this group whose purpose was to assist you, and instead of assisting
[04:37.640 --> 04:42.640]  you, this woman is doing the opposite.
[04:42.640 --> 04:45.960]  And why is that not surprising for California?
[04:45.960 --> 04:51.840]  Yeah, it's not surprising for California at all.
[04:51.840 --> 04:56.560]  And I'm wondering if the reason they're not contacting me after they described a few notes
[04:56.560 --> 05:02.680]  is they looked at perhaps the notes and realized that, oops, the actual organization themselves
[05:02.680 --> 05:09.480]  may be liable to me because that's who she was working for, and who I signed up to help
[05:09.480 --> 05:13.400]  me was NAAC.
[05:13.400 --> 05:17.200]  And maybe they are getting their little nuthers.
[05:17.200 --> 05:18.200]  Perhaps.
[05:18.200 --> 05:27.840]  And do you have a way of tying this fraud directly to your circumstance?
[05:27.840 --> 05:30.480]  Well, I don't know yet.
[05:30.480 --> 05:36.280]  I'm going to try to actually download, if I can, if it's on the page, I'm going to try
[05:36.280 --> 05:41.120]  to download the whole lawsuit and study it and see.
[05:41.120 --> 05:44.600]  But she was taking federal funds.
[05:44.600 --> 05:52.360]  She was obviously doing these intakes and getting paid $750 for them.
[05:52.360 --> 05:57.960]  And she retaliated only against those people who went against what she wanted with the
[05:57.960 --> 06:04.160]  sale of one less bank, which she got paid handsomely for and rewarded with positions
[06:04.160 --> 06:09.360]  on both the advisory board of both banks and then under the former CEO.
[06:09.360 --> 06:15.800]  So you have an abuse of power there and a breach, as they say, a breach of her fiduciary
[06:15.800 --> 06:16.800]  duty.
[06:16.800 --> 06:21.360]  She's taking funds to help people.
[06:21.360 --> 06:29.960]  Can you connect one West Bank with her nefarious goings on?
[06:29.960 --> 06:34.640]  Well, that's what I'm not sure how yet.
[06:34.640 --> 06:37.640]  That's why I asked for the note.
[06:37.640 --> 06:42.840]  If she's in a position where she should be assisting people who are in foreclosure and
[06:42.840 --> 06:51.000]  instead she's diverting federal funds to that purpose to herself, then that would serve
[06:51.000 --> 06:57.880]  the interest of one West Bank and other banks, would it not?
[06:57.880 --> 06:58.880]  I would think so.
[06:58.880 --> 07:04.040]  And the fact that they rewarded her with positions on the advisory board leads me to believe
[07:04.040 --> 07:08.480]  that they were like, oh, you do this for us and we'll do this for you.
[07:08.480 --> 07:13.320]  That's kind of what it sounds like.
[07:13.320 --> 07:17.040]  So figure out the parameters.
[07:17.040 --> 07:23.080]  We'll build a questionnaire you can put on a website and ask people to go there and answer
[07:23.080 --> 07:29.040]  the questionnaire and it'll determine whether or not they have standing to bring a claim.
[07:29.040 --> 07:36.520]  Yes, well, I'm going to ask someone else and I'm going to ask myself, I'm going to write
[07:36.520 --> 07:42.200]  up a FOIA request for their insurance information and I will send one and then I'll ask someone
[07:42.200 --> 07:48.200]  else to send one to see if they give it to either of us because they're federally funded
[07:48.200 --> 07:53.800]  so they can't say that they are not subject to the FOIA request for their insurance information.
[07:53.800 --> 07:54.800]  Right.
[07:54.800 --> 07:55.800]  Yeah.
[07:55.800 --> 08:04.000]  Anyone who's either federally funded or closely regulated by the government fall under open
[08:04.000 --> 08:05.000]  records.
[08:05.000 --> 08:13.040]  Yes, it says here that they've submitted the complaint to the California Attorney General's
[08:13.040 --> 08:18.600]  Office which regulates charities and nonprofit organizations and it says the board has a
[08:18.600 --> 08:24.200]  fiduciary duty to protect the integrity of NAAC and ensure the funds it received from
[08:24.200 --> 08:28.840]  the state of California was spent appropriately.
[08:28.840 --> 08:34.040]  And so the investigation was launched after the independent or outside auditor notified
[08:34.040 --> 08:41.440]  the board of numerous red flags relating to faith-based conduct.
[08:41.440 --> 08:45.920]  Could you request information from the Attorney General?
[08:45.920 --> 08:49.400]  Well, I might as well try.
[08:49.400 --> 08:55.640]  Yeah, because he's likely to say this is part of an ongoing investigation but these are
[08:55.640 --> 09:00.120]  records that were public that were made available to them.
[09:00.120 --> 09:07.840]  So the records do not become non-public just because they're holding them.
[09:07.840 --> 09:12.400]  Or is there another place where you can get these records?
[09:12.400 --> 09:13.400]  I don't know.
[09:13.400 --> 09:19.280]  I've got to think about that but I just found it fortuitous that this lawsuit came
[09:19.280 --> 09:27.000]  up at this time when I'm going into an appeal and also that I got my loan file through outside
[09:27.000 --> 09:31.040]  meetings that they've been trying to deny me this all along.
[09:31.040 --> 09:34.160]  All this information has been denied to me.
[09:34.160 --> 09:36.360]  You're going into an appeal.
[09:36.360 --> 09:41.760]  On appeal, you can bring new information.
[09:41.760 --> 09:46.960]  So you should be able to address this on appeal because the information wasn't available at
[09:46.960 --> 09:49.480]  the time of the trial.
[09:49.480 --> 09:55.680]  Yeah, that's a big deal having new information, new evidence that wasn't available.
[09:55.680 --> 09:59.800]  Yes, that's what I'm hoping to do.
[09:59.800 --> 10:04.760]  So I'm just going to study it but I thought I'd share the fact that I guess all these
[10:04.760 --> 10:12.400]  years of working and keeping going, finally I'm getting the information I need to hopefully
[10:12.400 --> 10:18.840]  prove my case and prove that they just wanted to run over me with a steamroller and push
[10:18.840 --> 10:21.840]  me aside and take my home.
[10:21.840 --> 10:27.360]  Okay, well keep us up to date on how this goes.
[10:27.360 --> 10:33.200]  If you want to try to, once you get the details down and find out what the parameters are
[10:33.200 --> 10:38.680]  for bringing a claim, then come to me.
[10:38.680 --> 10:40.480]  We'll put together a questionnaire.
[10:40.480 --> 10:50.840]  I've got the software for it that you can post online and ask people to come there and
[10:50.840 --> 10:55.280]  maybe build a class action ship.
[10:55.280 --> 10:57.320]  That would be pretty awesome.
[10:57.320 --> 11:00.440]  But yeah, I mean, how the mighty has fallen.
[11:00.440 --> 11:06.520]  She's sitting there under Trump and Mnuchin and hobnobbing with old bigwigs and getting
[11:06.520 --> 11:13.520]  all this money and now she's being sued for, you know, an immense amount of fraud.
[11:13.520 --> 11:17.480]  She's likely to wind up in prison.
[11:17.480 --> 11:20.760]  Somebody threw her under the bus.
[11:20.760 --> 11:22.200]  This is California.
[11:22.200 --> 11:26.080]  Outside auditors, yeah.
[11:26.080 --> 11:29.680]  This kind of thing doesn't happen by mistake.
[11:29.680 --> 11:32.960]  So who are they hiding?
[11:32.960 --> 11:33.960]  Who's using her?
[11:33.960 --> 11:34.960]  I don't know.
[11:34.960 --> 11:40.280]  Maybe she upset someone on the board.
[11:40.280 --> 11:45.400]  It says that it was a findings of a more than eight month investigation conducted by one
[11:45.400 --> 11:52.000]  of the nation's leading global law firms, Shepard, Mullin, Richter and Sampson LLP.
[11:52.000 --> 11:56.240]  Well, who seeked that law firm on them?
[11:56.240 --> 11:57.240]  I don't know.
[11:57.240 --> 12:03.160]  It says it was the outside auditing agency, but I don't know who that is.
[12:03.160 --> 12:06.720]  So I'd like to find that out too.
[12:06.720 --> 12:09.720]  Maybe I could ask for that in my FOIA request.
[12:09.720 --> 12:17.800]  Maybe I'm just skeptical, but this sounds like she's been thrown under the bus to hide
[12:17.800 --> 12:19.800]  somebody else.
[12:19.800 --> 12:23.640]  Well, yeah, I don't know.
[12:23.640 --> 12:25.320]  She was the founder and CEO.
[12:25.320 --> 12:31.600]  So what is that, the respondeat superior, she's responsible for everything her people
[12:31.600 --> 12:32.600]  do.
[12:32.600 --> 12:35.560]  Who's providing all these funds she's stealing?
[12:35.560 --> 12:40.960]  The state of California, apparently.
[12:40.960 --> 12:43.600]  What agency in the state of California?
[12:43.600 --> 12:54.200]  What agency in the state of California provided funds to this person and allowed her to embezzle
[12:54.200 --> 12:56.360]  all of this money from them?
[12:56.360 --> 13:00.880]  Where were their checks and balances?
[13:00.880 --> 13:04.520]  I don't know, but remember the Rezeki case in New York?
[13:04.520 --> 13:05.520]  Yes.
[13:05.520 --> 13:12.480]  For those of you who don't know, this was a foreclosure mill in New York.
[13:12.480 --> 13:17.600]  Chris, who calls in from New York, calls in on occasion.
[13:17.600 --> 13:25.480]  He had that law firm handling their foreclosure until they were put out of business.
[13:25.480 --> 13:27.720]  Okay, go ahead.
[13:27.720 --> 13:34.960]  Yeah, they were sued for millions because they were defrauding the government by submitting
[13:34.960 --> 13:36.400]  false invoices.
[13:36.400 --> 13:41.320]  And this is basically what she's done to the state of California is the same thing
[13:41.320 --> 13:44.680]  as Rezeki did.
[13:44.680 --> 13:47.880]  All of this raises the question.
[13:47.880 --> 13:54.280]  We've got one in Texas that's got several names.
[13:54.280 --> 13:58.280]  And why weren't they sued?
[13:58.280 --> 14:03.280]  We've got foreclosure mills all over the place, and they're all using the same nefarious
[14:03.280 --> 14:04.280]  tactics.
[14:04.280 --> 14:11.360]  Why was Rezeki and Rezeki singled out as a sacrificial lamb?
[14:11.360 --> 14:15.760]  And why was this woman singled out?
[14:15.760 --> 14:22.080]  Who puts a major law firm researching her?
[14:22.080 --> 14:26.000]  Who's covering their behinds?
[14:26.000 --> 14:31.600]  I don't know, but there's somebody that I'm going to call up and see if she got a whistleblower
[14:31.600 --> 14:41.680]  lawsuit that she won against one arm of one West Bank where they were doing reverse mortgages
[14:41.680 --> 14:43.680]  and defrauding people.
[14:43.680 --> 14:48.280]  So I'm going to call her up, but she was the one who actually referred me to this agency
[14:48.280 --> 14:50.200]  to help me.
[14:50.200 --> 14:56.320]  And she said that after that hearing she came up and congratulated me on the way I presented.
[14:56.320 --> 15:01.880]  And she said we talked afterwards because she said one of the other victims was appalling
[15:01.880 --> 15:04.920]  and was a terrible speaker.
[15:04.920 --> 15:09.320]  And she said that a lot of people got retaliated against after that.
[15:09.320 --> 15:14.720]  So I think I'll give her a call and see if she answers me and see what her thoughts are.
[15:14.720 --> 15:15.720]  Good.
[15:15.720 --> 15:16.720]  Good.
[15:16.720 --> 15:21.400]  I think she needs some, a little more depth and that'll give them a reason to write you
[15:21.400 --> 15:24.400]  a check to get you to go away and leave them alone.
[15:24.400 --> 15:28.200]  Yeah, well, I'd like to go after NAACP's insurance.
[15:28.200 --> 15:36.200]  I mean, ultimately I, my contract was then not specifically Ms. Sautista, but she was
[15:36.200 --> 15:39.840]  just in charge of it all.
[15:39.840 --> 15:41.640]  So anyway, I'll think about it.
[15:41.640 --> 15:47.240]  I'll read more and I will keep you posted, but I just thought it was good for people
[15:47.240 --> 15:56.600]  to hear that the mighty eventually can fall and get to the fraud.
[15:56.600 --> 16:00.520]  Maybe we can help them in their demise.
[16:00.520 --> 16:03.600]  Yes.
[16:03.600 --> 16:09.320]  I suspect there's some more mighty individuals behind all of this.
[16:09.320 --> 16:12.040]  We might be able to take the next one down.
[16:12.040 --> 16:15.200]  Well, we'll keep trying.
[16:15.200 --> 16:16.720]  We've already tried with Mnuchin.
[16:16.720 --> 16:18.480]  We're still working on that through you.
[16:18.480 --> 16:21.480]  So who knows?
[16:21.480 --> 16:22.980]  Okay.
[16:22.980 --> 16:23.980]  Thank you, Tina.
[16:23.980 --> 16:28.480]  And keep us up to date on how this goes.
[16:28.480 --> 16:29.480]  I will.
[16:29.480 --> 16:30.480]  Okay.
[16:30.480 --> 16:31.480]  Talk to you later.
[16:31.480 --> 16:32.480]  Bye bye.
[16:32.480 --> 16:33.480]  Okay.
[16:33.480 --> 16:38.280]  This is Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[16:38.280 --> 16:40.520]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[16:40.520 --> 16:44.600]  We have a couple slots on the board.
[16:44.600 --> 16:48.400]  So if you have a question or comment, give us a call and we'll be picking your calls
[16:48.400 --> 16:49.400]  all night.
[16:49.400 --> 16:50.400]  Hang on.
[16:50.400 --> 17:00.120]  We'll be right back.
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[19:24.280 --> 19:50.720]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, we're out in Rule of Law Radio and we're going to Chris
[19:50.720 --> 19:52.320]  in Colorado.
[19:52.320 --> 19:57.000]  Chris, what do you have for us today?
[19:57.000 --> 20:04.920]  Hello, Chris, did we put you to sleep?
[20:04.920 --> 20:07.080]  Oh, man.
[20:07.080 --> 20:08.480]  I pressed mute by accident.
[20:08.480 --> 20:10.480]  Hey, there you are.
[20:10.480 --> 20:11.480]  Okay.
[20:11.480 --> 20:13.520]  Okay, what do you got?
[20:13.520 --> 20:19.200]  Well, I've been listening all night and it was a lot of interesting segues.
[20:19.200 --> 20:27.000]  I know it was Dan's name, I know he was in a bad spot with this, but he made some interesting
[20:27.000 --> 20:33.800]  points and anyway, I'm getting pretty deep in that the interactions with the court now
[20:33.800 --> 20:40.000]  as far as hearings and different judges and I'm watching what's going through their heads
[20:40.000 --> 20:44.240]  and their experience and they do, they treat people differently.
[20:44.240 --> 20:47.520]  They have their own little world they live in and because we're pro se, they don't like
[20:47.520 --> 20:57.960]  to fully take us seriously and I've been making this point more and more.
[20:57.960 --> 21:05.160]  So I'm calling in because mainly for that point, the judge is forcing me or ruling that
[21:05.160 --> 21:12.440]  I have to do certain things and yet the other side gets all this extra time and I'm trying
[21:12.440 --> 21:18.200]  to figure out how to kind of pull in those reins so to speak.
[21:18.200 --> 21:24.840]  Now I will give the judge a little bit of credit as far as speaking common language.
[21:24.840 --> 21:31.120]  So we had a video conference, a hearing and it was just kind of casual, almost like you're
[21:31.120 --> 21:36.720]  in a small claims court.
[21:36.720 --> 21:46.240]  But I watched her save her defense because they were attorneys and steer me into a corner
[21:46.240 --> 21:53.040]  to do certain things that I don't legally have to do, but she's making an order in order
[21:53.040 --> 21:57.780]  to, I don't know, make it convenient on herself or what have you and I'll explain.
[21:57.780 --> 22:02.380]  So we have the hearing, I motion to compel them.
[22:02.380 --> 22:06.320]  She gave them 21 days and I found out normally when you're at that level, you get a week
[22:06.320 --> 22:11.340]  to 14 days at max and she just granted them 21 days.
[22:11.340 --> 22:16.560]  And then they didn't make any compelling argument for me and she said, but I'm going to make
[22:16.560 --> 22:20.800]  you submit all this stuff, even though it's irrelevant, okay, fine.
[22:20.800 --> 22:26.320]  But then this came to the settlement, the settlement discussion, the federal courts
[22:26.320 --> 22:31.500]  in Illinois, they have a thing pro se that's really usually supportive and they even give
[22:31.500 --> 22:35.380]  you free counsel for a settlement conference and you just have to apply.
[22:35.380 --> 22:38.840]  You don't have to be indigent or anything, you just apply.
[22:38.840 --> 22:43.160]  And so I applied, I put a motion in to have a council sign to me so we can go ahead and
[22:43.160 --> 22:47.320]  start moving with the lease, see if we can get a settlement conference going.
[22:47.320 --> 22:51.360]  And instead of saying, sure, I'm going to go ahead and grant you somebody, she took
[22:51.360 --> 22:52.860]  it under advisement.
[22:52.860 --> 22:58.800]  And then in her order, she ordered me to present a settlement offer, which I don't have to
[22:58.800 --> 22:59.800]  do.
[22:59.800 --> 23:00.800]  There's no law.
[23:00.800 --> 23:01.800]  She even said it.
[23:01.800 --> 23:05.440]  You don't have to present it, but she ordered it anyway.
[23:05.440 --> 23:10.120]  And so there's this strange biases towards people.
[23:10.120 --> 23:13.680]  And then obviously I'm not a lawyer, it's clear, but if you tell me something I need
[23:13.680 --> 23:16.560]  to figure out, I'll go read it this week and I'll know the law.
[23:16.560 --> 23:25.160]  So I'm having a hard time holding the whole court accountable, I guess, is what I'm saying.
[23:25.160 --> 23:30.120]  And especially defense, I mean, they're just getting away with, it's over a hundred days
[23:30.120 --> 23:31.120]  now.
[23:31.120 --> 23:33.320]  They're just getting away with it.
[23:33.320 --> 23:37.880]  And now we've got to wait another three weeks for a motion to compel.
[23:37.880 --> 23:42.400]  And then, you know, I got to get, I'm just going to go ahead and answer as quick as I
[23:42.400 --> 23:43.400]  can when I get that in.
[23:43.400 --> 23:44.760]  And then we've got to wait for her to rule on that.
[23:44.760 --> 23:48.240]  And then we're at the end of discovery already.
[23:48.240 --> 23:54.320]  So you know, I've listened to Dr. Gray's stuff on how to control judges, but the examples
[23:54.320 --> 23:58.560]  are more, you know, just disrespectful.
[23:58.560 --> 24:01.600]  You just kind of hold them to point if they're falling asleep and things like that.
[24:01.600 --> 24:03.760]  But I'm not sure what to do here.
[24:03.760 --> 24:08.360]  Have you considered your judicial conduct complaint?
[24:08.360 --> 24:11.360]  Yeah, that's on the back shelf.
[24:11.360 --> 24:12.640]  She's a nice woman though.
[24:12.640 --> 24:17.000]  And again, the argument is, yeah, you can be nice all you want and disrespect our rights.
[24:17.000 --> 24:22.720]  But I'm getting prepared for appeals.
[24:22.720 --> 24:28.520]  I'm strongly getting ready to appeal her discovery because if she comes in, let's just say for
[24:28.520 --> 24:29.520]  argument's sake.
[24:29.520 --> 24:31.880]  Let's say I wait out, I wait out the...
[24:31.880 --> 24:33.360]  Wait a minute, I've lost you.
[24:33.360 --> 24:36.080]  You need to move closer to the mic.
[24:36.080 --> 24:39.080]  Oh, I'm right on it.
[24:39.080 --> 24:40.640]  You faded out there for a minute.
[24:40.640 --> 24:41.640]  Okay, go ahead.
[24:41.640 --> 24:42.640]  Okay.
[24:42.640 --> 24:45.160]  It might be bad reception.
[24:45.160 --> 24:51.640]  Let's say for argument's sake, at the end of this motion to compel, she allows them
[24:51.640 --> 24:57.560]  to withhold non-privileged material just because she's not taking things seriously.
[24:57.560 --> 25:01.360]  Well, I'm gonna have to appeal that.
[25:01.360 --> 25:04.480]  And where was...
[25:04.480 --> 25:07.480]  You're talking interlocutory.
[25:07.480 --> 25:10.720]  Yes, yes.
[25:10.720 --> 25:17.600]  Because she's gonna let them slide a lot.
[25:17.600 --> 25:21.680]  She hasn't officially let them slide, but she's given them a lot of time.
[25:21.680 --> 25:22.680]  And it's completely irrelevant.
[25:22.680 --> 25:28.080]  A communication between the insured and the insurer with regards to denying a claim, especially
[25:28.080 --> 25:34.120]  when that was what the main reasons were to deny a damaged claim, that's completely relevant.
[25:34.120 --> 25:37.800]  Absolutely 100% relevant, and it's not privileged.
[25:37.800 --> 25:42.080]  Yet defense is saying there's privileged material and they're trying to mix it in so they can
[25:42.080 --> 25:45.440]  muddy that water and confuse her, and it seemed to work.
[25:45.440 --> 25:50.800]  So I directly, in my motion to compel, stated very, very clearly, this is for everything
[25:50.800 --> 25:53.680]  before this suit was even filed and any lawyer was even involved.
[25:53.680 --> 25:56.480]  There is no privileged material here.
[25:56.480 --> 26:00.360]  And I don't even need to quote case law for that.
[26:00.360 --> 26:02.800]  It's just kind of an understood, but I could, right?
[26:02.800 --> 26:07.040]  So let's see at the end of this, if she's more weighted toward in favor of them, then
[26:07.040 --> 26:09.400]  I'm gonna have to appeal.
[26:09.400 --> 26:10.400]  And if she...
[26:10.400 --> 26:14.920]  She might do an interlocutory on some ruling that she's done.
[26:14.920 --> 26:18.300]  Have you done an interlocutory appeal at all yet?
[26:18.300 --> 26:19.600]  She hasn't ruled on anything except...
[26:19.600 --> 26:24.000]  Well, she hasn't ruled officially on any motion.
[26:24.000 --> 26:28.640]  She's just ruled kind of like in the docket, you know, the minutes of the docket.
[26:28.640 --> 26:29.640]  That's kind of her...
[26:29.640 --> 26:31.840]  That's how she's done things.
[26:31.840 --> 26:35.280]  There's no official document from this woman yet.
[26:35.280 --> 26:37.840]  There will be after this motion to compel.
[26:37.840 --> 26:39.840]  There has to be.
[26:39.840 --> 26:47.720]  So that might be a good one to do an interlocutory appeal and let her know that as a pro se,
[26:47.720 --> 26:54.640]  you understand that you can drag her into a higher court, and that might give her warning
[26:54.640 --> 26:56.880]  to be more careful.
[26:56.880 --> 26:59.440]  Yeah.
[26:59.440 --> 27:04.560]  And so if the biases continue, then they're gonna give me no choice.
[27:04.560 --> 27:07.000]  But there is an opportunity here.
[27:07.000 --> 27:10.640]  We always want them to pay to make us go away.
[27:10.640 --> 27:12.000]  And I've been in this for a long time.
[27:12.000 --> 27:18.440]  I've been doing this for two years straight in federal court and, you know, three years
[27:18.440 --> 27:24.280]  before that trying to figure out what to do to hold some of these things accountable.
[27:24.280 --> 27:26.040]  So I'm fine with getting a settlement.
[27:26.040 --> 27:28.560]  So I'm coming up with numbers to give them.
[27:28.560 --> 27:30.360]  But even that is a process that's very...
[27:30.360 --> 27:31.360]  Okay, hold on.
[27:31.360 --> 27:32.360]  Hold on.
[27:32.360 --> 27:33.360]  What...
[27:33.360 --> 27:34.360]  Do you have any idea how much insurance they have?
[27:34.360 --> 27:35.360]  Oh, they got plenty.
[27:35.360 --> 27:36.360]  Well, no, I don't.
[27:36.360 --> 27:37.360]  But I'm assuming they got plenty.
[27:37.360 --> 27:38.360]  It's a commercial contract.
[27:38.360 --> 27:39.360]  So they've got plenty.
[27:39.360 --> 27:48.960]  Well, no, I mean, specifically, you need to make a claim that is within the range of their
[27:48.960 --> 27:52.320]  insurance coverage.
[27:52.320 --> 27:55.080]  And that triggers the Storrs Doctrine.
[27:55.080 --> 27:56.080]  Yeah.
[27:56.080 --> 27:58.800]  Is Storrs Doctrine a federal brandy?
[27:58.800 --> 28:00.800]  Is it federal in Texas?
[28:00.800 --> 28:04.640]  The Storrs Doctrine is not really a law.
[28:04.640 --> 28:11.480]  It's a kind of a policy.
[28:11.480 --> 28:14.560]  The courts have ruled it's in every state.
[28:14.560 --> 28:16.960]  So I would assume that it's also in the federal.
[28:16.960 --> 28:26.440]  So you should act like it's in the federal and set your settlement offer within the range
[28:26.440 --> 28:28.440]  of coverage.
[28:28.440 --> 28:30.100]  Right.
[28:30.100 --> 28:35.000]  And that's even information I don't have yet, because I just sent out a subpoena to the
[28:35.000 --> 28:39.740]  insurance company to get all their records and policies and all that kind of stuff, including
[28:39.740 --> 28:41.240]  the insurance policy and limits.
[28:41.240 --> 28:43.400]  So we'll see if they respond to that.
[28:43.400 --> 28:45.920]  They've got three weeks to answer to that.
[28:45.920 --> 28:46.920]  But once...
[28:46.920 --> 28:51.800]  How long do you have to produce settlement offer?
[28:51.800 --> 28:53.440]  She wants me to give them some numbers.
[28:53.440 --> 28:57.760]  She said, you can even just send it in an email by Tuesday.
[28:57.760 --> 29:07.720]  But...Object, because you don't have the insured limits so that you can make a request that's
[29:07.720 --> 29:11.160]  within the parameters of the Storrs Doctrine.
[29:11.160 --> 29:13.560]  Good point.
[29:13.560 --> 29:15.900]  Good point.
[29:15.900 --> 29:18.440]  I don't think I have to even answer that order.
[29:18.440 --> 29:19.880]  I think it's an illegitimate order.
[29:19.880 --> 29:23.120]  I do not have to hand over any settlement offer.
[29:23.120 --> 29:25.660]  That's why I asked for a settlement conference.
[29:25.660 --> 29:27.820]  That's where we do these things.
[29:27.820 --> 29:35.560]  So it's a little bit confusing, but...
[29:35.560 --> 29:38.920]  And I'll explain the numbers real quickly on the other side, and then I'll let everybody
[29:38.920 --> 29:39.920]  go.
[29:39.920 --> 29:42.560]  But this is what I'm...
[29:42.560 --> 29:45.760]  It's my first time doing this, and I don't want to get bulldozed.
[29:45.760 --> 29:46.760]  Good.
[29:46.760 --> 29:47.760]  Okay.
[29:47.760 --> 29:52.360]  I would say act your age, but you've never been this age before, so you're kind of in
[29:52.360 --> 29:53.360]  that position.
[29:53.360 --> 30:01.280]  Randy Fountain, we'll be right back.
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[39:09.200 --> 39:28.200]  simply
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[41:07.200 --> 41:22.200]  sell
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[41:47.200 --> 42:15.200]  so
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[46:23.880 --> 46:27.800]  Always I must be careful what I'm
[46:27.800 --> 46:32.320]  wishing for. When I'm hungry, I like to
[46:32.320 --> 46:36.640]  know just what I'm fishing for. I ain't asking for
[46:36.640 --> 46:41.800]  much, I ain't trying to be no glutton. I'm just
[46:41.800 --> 46:46.240]  here making my living pushing buttons.
[46:46.240 --> 46:50.120]  I get my message out. Okay, we are back.
[46:50.120 --> 46:52.560]  Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio, and we're
[46:52.560 --> 46:56.000]  talking to Chris in Colorado. Okay, so
[46:56.000 --> 46:59.000]  you're kind of hung up on how much to
[46:59.000 --> 47:06.000]  ask. Well, strategy-wise, yes. So again,
[47:06.000 --> 47:09.600]  like I talked to one lawyer, a federal guy,
[47:09.600 --> 47:11.480]  and he's got a cool guy, just super
[47:11.480 --> 47:13.400]  straight shooter. He says, well, I make my
[47:13.400 --> 47:15.720]  bread and butter by suing businesses who
[47:15.720 --> 47:18.040]  basically screw their employees out
[47:18.040 --> 47:20.200]  of money, you know, whether it be tips or
[47:20.200 --> 47:22.360]  salary, whatever it is. He says, and he
[47:22.360 --> 47:23.560]  says, I start off every one of my
[47:23.560 --> 47:26.560]  lawsuits like two to three million. He's
[47:26.560 --> 47:28.360]  automatically federal court, that's why
[47:28.360 --> 47:30.280]  he's a federal attorney, and he says,
[47:30.280 --> 47:31.840]  but they always settle out of court for
[47:31.840 --> 47:34.400]  just thousands, you know, and he says, so
[47:34.400 --> 47:36.040]  he broke down some numbers, and he says,
[47:36.040 --> 47:37.960]  you know, a company will, they'll fight
[47:37.960 --> 47:39.640]  you all the way to the Supreme Court if
[47:39.640 --> 47:42.600]  you have a million dollar lawsuit. They'll
[47:42.600 --> 47:44.280]  fight you all the way through trial if
[47:44.280 --> 47:45.920]  it's a $200,000 lawsuit. He says, they
[47:45.920 --> 47:47.240]  probably even fight you even if the
[47:47.240 --> 47:50.160]  $100,000 lawsuit all the way to trial. So
[47:50.160 --> 47:51.760]  if you want to settle and get a
[47:51.760 --> 47:54.320]  guaranteed check, you, you got to come
[47:54.320 --> 47:56.400]  down to a number where it's, you're
[47:56.400 --> 47:58.000]  really playing with the numbers of what
[47:58.000 --> 48:01.200]  it's going to cost them and what the
[48:01.200 --> 48:04.000]  jury may award. So, and he says, you
[48:04.000 --> 48:05.440]  never, you never can guess what the
[48:05.440 --> 48:06.960]  jury is going to do. He says, however, in
[48:06.960 --> 48:08.480]  your case, you're probably not going to
[48:08.480 --> 48:10.120]  find a single person in Chicago that
[48:10.120 --> 48:13.040]  doesn't hate a, hate a tow company. So
[48:13.040 --> 48:17.160]  you do have that in your favor. So I
[48:17.160 --> 48:19.000]  want to put out a number and I'm
[48:19.000 --> 48:20.200]  probably just going to go ahead and do
[48:20.200 --> 48:21.960]  it. It's been sitting in my head, but
[48:21.960 --> 48:23.440]  I'm willing to settle for quite a bit
[48:23.440 --> 48:25.680]  less than that because, you know, at the
[48:25.680 --> 48:28.360]  end of the day, I got my car towed and,
[48:28.360 --> 48:29.920]  and yes, it's a fraud case, but I'm no
[48:29.920 --> 48:32.280]  longer the crusade person for all of
[48:32.280 --> 48:34.760]  Chicago. Let, let Chicago eat itself. That
[48:34.760 --> 48:38.760]  place is a disaster and it's, it's
[48:38.760 --> 48:42.240]  everywhere. The police are incompetent.
[48:42.240 --> 48:43.840]  They're, the administrative people are
[48:43.840 --> 48:45.600]  incompetent. The, the DAs are
[48:45.600 --> 48:48.120]  incompetent. The detectives are not all
[48:48.120 --> 48:49.280]  incompetent. They're probably the
[48:49.280 --> 48:52.080]  better people in Chicago, but there's so
[48:52.080 --> 48:54.080]  much incompetency in that, in that city.
[48:54.080 --> 48:57.440]  It's systemic and I'm not going to
[48:57.440 --> 48:58.880]  change much. All I'm going to do is
[48:58.880 --> 49:00.600]  teach a lesson to a tow company and
[49:00.600 --> 49:02.800]  hopefully an insurance company. So that's
[49:02.800 --> 49:04.760]  what I'm thinking. What's the number I
[49:04.760 --> 49:07.320]  can settle for? So, but also what's the
[49:07.320 --> 49:09.360]  number I got to come in with that we
[49:09.360 --> 49:13.280]  start to negotiate down from? So I'm a
[49:13.280 --> 49:14.600]  little nervous. I guess that's what I'm
[49:14.600 --> 49:15.720]  saying because I've never done this
[49:15.720 --> 49:18.880]  before. Well, give them a little, if you've
[49:18.880 --> 49:23.240]  got a high number, go up a little bit, not
[49:23.240 --> 49:26.040]  a whole lot, but enough so they'll come
[49:26.040 --> 49:29.440]  back closer to your high number. And it
[49:29.440 --> 49:31.120]  sounds like you want to get it under a
[49:31.120 --> 49:35.040]  hundred grand. Yeah, I think that's,
[49:35.040 --> 49:36.640]  because it's, I don't know what I've
[49:36.640 --> 49:39.680]  cost them already, but 30, 40, 50 thousand
[49:39.680 --> 49:41.040]  dollars is probably what I've cost them
[49:41.040 --> 49:42.480]  already for doing this for two years
[49:42.480 --> 49:46.480]  straight. So, and, and what I was told is
[49:46.480 --> 49:48.080]  if they go to trial, prepare it, because
[49:48.080 --> 49:49.000]  I've been, I've been looking for
[49:49.000 --> 49:50.960]  attorneys because I don't, I can't handle
[49:50.960 --> 49:53.520]  much more of this as far as, maybe I can,
[49:53.520 --> 49:54.920]  I don't know, maybe some, something will
[49:54.920 --> 49:57.600]  happen, but it's, it's too much for, for
[49:57.600 --> 49:59.240]  me to deal with with the injury too, you
[49:59.240 --> 50:02.000]  know, it's just, it's a lot. Ten, two
[50:02.000 --> 50:03.560]  years ago, this wouldn't have been a big
[50:03.560 --> 50:04.520]  deal, this would have been a fun
[50:04.520 --> 50:06.200]  challenge, but it's really, it's really a
[50:06.200 --> 50:08.360]  lot. So I've been, I've been looking for
[50:08.360 --> 50:09.920]  attorneys and I can't find an attorney.
[50:09.920 --> 50:11.360]  I've talked to a couple who are kind of
[50:11.360 --> 50:12.960]  curious, but they want to go class
[50:12.960 --> 50:14.360]  action. One of them wants to go class
[50:14.360 --> 50:17.200]  action, and that's going to stretch this
[50:17.200 --> 50:19.800]  out for a long time and also diminish,
[50:19.800 --> 50:21.880]  but it's an option, it's a leveraging
[50:21.880 --> 50:25.600]  tool. If they know that I, I'm looking
[50:25.600 --> 50:27.920]  for counsel, or this could go, and I'm
[50:27.920 --> 50:29.440]  not supposed to say that apparently, but
[50:29.440 --> 50:31.040]  I could put that in my settlement offer,
[50:31.040 --> 50:32.400]  you know, this could turn into a
[50:32.400 --> 50:34.440]  different type of case, but I've never
[50:34.440 --> 50:35.800]  done one of those either, so I don't know
[50:35.800 --> 50:40.760]  how to state that. But yeah.
[50:40.760 --> 50:44.960]  Well, in your settlement conferences, that's
[50:44.960 --> 50:47.960]  when you can tell them that kind of stuff.
[50:47.960 --> 50:51.840]  I don't have counsel, all the counsel I
[50:51.840 --> 50:55.000]  talk to, all want to do a class action,
[50:55.000 --> 50:57.160]  and I don't want to go to a class action,
[50:57.160 --> 50:58.920]  but I'm being pushed into a corner here.
[50:58.920 --> 51:06.080]  This is poker. I don't want to go class
[51:06.080 --> 51:12.720]  action, but they all want to. Well, I was
[51:12.720 --> 51:14.600]  surprised, most attorneys don't even look
[51:14.600 --> 51:16.680]  at me straight, you know, but it's been
[51:16.680 --> 51:18.320]  interesting that this past week I've
[51:18.320 --> 51:20.320]  found two or three that are like, huh,
[51:20.320 --> 51:21.560]  you got an interesting case, for the
[51:21.560 --> 51:23.000]  first time in two damn years, three
[51:23.000 --> 51:25.560]  years. Well, it's probably because you're
[51:25.560 --> 51:27.480]  so far down the road in the case, you've
[51:27.480 --> 51:32.400]  got most of the heavy lifting to take care of.
[51:32.400 --> 51:34.600]  Well, that's a double-edged sword too,
[51:34.600 --> 51:36.440]  but because I had one attorney say,
[51:36.440 --> 51:37.560]  you're never going to find anybody
[51:37.560 --> 51:38.800]  because they want to start from the
[51:38.800 --> 51:39.920]  beginning, and I said, well, none of them
[51:39.920 --> 51:41.080]  wanted to start from the beginning, so I
[51:41.080 --> 51:44.080]  had to do it myself. And now, and now
[51:44.080 --> 51:45.920]  there's an attorney who got, who heard,
[51:45.920 --> 51:49.200]  so in disclosures, they, I asked them, I
[51:49.200 --> 51:50.560]  said, have you ever been sued before or
[51:50.560 --> 51:51.920]  had any complaints filed against you
[51:51.920 --> 51:53.840]  other than mine? And they actually
[51:53.840 --> 51:55.840]  legally are bound to disclose that, and
[51:55.840 --> 51:57.280]  sure enough, there's like a dozen more,
[51:57.280 --> 51:58.920]  and God knows how many beyond that, you
[51:58.920 --> 52:02.640]  know? So when I revealed that, and I
[52:02.640 --> 52:04.600]  opened up, by the way, every toast since
[52:04.600 --> 52:08.240]  2016, especially since 2018 from this
[52:08.240 --> 52:09.960]  company, has been illegal because
[52:09.960 --> 52:11.880]  they're still breaking the law. When they
[52:11.880 --> 52:13.720]  started to hear that, this one guy, he's a
[52:13.720 --> 52:15.200]  nice guy. He's like, that sounds like
[52:15.200 --> 52:17.560]  class action to me. And he says, I'd be
[52:17.560 --> 52:20.720]  interested in maybe doing this, but, you
[52:20.720 --> 52:22.600]  know, there's no going back once I jump
[52:22.600 --> 52:24.200]  in. We're going class action, that type
[52:24.200 --> 52:26.680]  of, that type of language. And then
[52:26.680 --> 52:29.120]  another one straight up told me, I'll
[52:29.120 --> 52:30.480]  take money from you up front as a
[52:30.480 --> 52:33.840]  retainer, but, and the rest of it's on
[52:33.840 --> 52:35.240]  contingency, and he says, you know,
[52:35.240 --> 52:37.480]  because it's 30 to 50,000 to prepare for
[52:37.480 --> 52:40.960]  a, for a trial. And I'm like, okay, really?
[52:40.960 --> 52:42.960]  That sounds a bit ridiculous, but he's
[52:42.960 --> 52:44.200]  like, it's a hundred hours. You know, I'm
[52:44.200 --> 52:46.520]  like, okay, well, whatever. So he says,
[52:46.520 --> 52:48.280]  but, so here's the deal. I'll take a
[52:48.280 --> 52:49.640]  little bit of money from you to show
[52:49.640 --> 52:51.400]  good faith. And then the rest is on
[52:51.400 --> 52:53.880]  contingency. And, but if they, if they
[52:53.880 --> 52:55.560]  propose a good settlement, you have to
[52:55.560 --> 52:57.480]  take it. If they say they don't propose
[52:57.480 --> 52:58.800]  a good settlement, we go to court, maybe
[52:58.800 --> 53:01.880]  we get more. So I'm getting pushed into
[53:01.880 --> 53:03.880]  the corner that way as well of maybe
[53:03.880 --> 53:06.600]  losing out. If I get an attorney, you
[53:06.600 --> 53:08.080]  know, I might be able to just settle
[53:08.080 --> 53:10.240]  enough on my own. So you're right. It is
[53:10.240 --> 53:13.360]  a poker game and I'm not sure. I've
[53:13.360 --> 53:16.640]  never been a good poker player, but
[53:16.640 --> 53:18.000]  maybe I'm better than I think. I don't
[53:18.000 --> 53:21.480]  know. Well, you're still in fight.
[53:23.760 --> 53:25.240]  Yeah. And they don't know what's about
[53:25.240 --> 53:27.040]  to be unleashed on them too. I've got
[53:27.040 --> 53:29.240]  an insurance claim complaint coming
[53:29.240 --> 53:32.360]  next week. Um, and they're going to,
[53:32.440 --> 53:33.680]  the insurance company is probably going
[53:33.680 --> 53:35.680]  to get hit. I'm filing a lawsuit
[53:35.680 --> 53:37.040]  against the insurance company next
[53:37.040 --> 53:39.800]  Tuesday. And I didn't know this, Randy,
[53:39.800 --> 53:41.400]  but one of the attorneys, he was
[53:41.400 --> 53:43.120]  actually kind of, it was kind of nice
[53:43.120 --> 53:44.680]  to me. I talked to him yesterday. He
[53:44.680 --> 53:46.160]  said, he's not going to take the case,
[53:46.160 --> 53:47.600]  but he was, he's willing to just talk
[53:47.600 --> 53:50.480]  to me. He said, you don't need to serve
[53:50.480 --> 53:52.240]  the insurance company. You don't need
[53:52.240 --> 53:53.720]  to serve them probably for six months.
[53:53.760 --> 53:55.280]  You just file the case to get into your
[53:55.280 --> 53:58.480]  statute of limitations and sit on it. I
[53:58.480 --> 53:59.320]  didn't know I could do that.
[54:01.160 --> 54:02.080]  That's interesting.
[54:02.960 --> 54:03.440]  Yeah.
[54:03.480 --> 54:05.040]  What an interesting twist.
[54:05.880 --> 54:09.720]  Yeah. So I mean like the
[54:09.720 --> 54:11.840]  summons, you're holding the summons in
[54:11.840 --> 54:14.200]  your hand that came from the clerk, but
[54:14.200 --> 54:15.880]  you don't go have it served.
[54:16.960 --> 54:17.840]  I don't even have to file a
[54:17.840 --> 54:19.280]  summons. I just, I just have to file
[54:19.280 --> 54:19.760]  the suit.
[54:21.080 --> 54:22.880]  Yeah. That's what I mean. You put the
[54:22.880 --> 54:24.760]  complaint into the court with the court
[54:24.760 --> 54:26.920]  clerk. The court clerk will give you the
[54:26.920 --> 54:28.800]  summons that need to be served to
[54:28.800 --> 54:33.680]  people, to the defendants. So then he's
[54:33.720 --> 54:35.840]  suggesting that you just, you get it in
[54:35.840 --> 54:37.400]  there. Now it's under the wire for
[54:37.400 --> 54:40.960]  statute of limitations and you don't
[54:40.960 --> 54:44.160]  have to serve the summons. You don't
[54:44.160 --> 54:46.520]  have to serve the defendants yet.
[54:47.200 --> 54:48.720]  What would be the advantage?
[54:50.000 --> 54:54.000]  Well, I have, okay. So last year, the,
[54:54.240 --> 54:57.120]  the, the, the federal judge in my, my
[54:57.120 --> 54:58.720]  amendment, in my complaint, he
[54:58.720 --> 55:00.600]  dismissed the insurance company as a
[55:00.600 --> 55:01.880]  defendant because there's just this
[55:01.880 --> 55:03.640]  public policy crap. You can't, you
[55:03.640 --> 55:05.840]  can't sue them for as first parties.
[55:05.840 --> 55:07.680]  You have to sue the defense, the, the
[55:07.680 --> 55:09.240]  insured first, then you can sue the
[55:09.240 --> 55:10.280]  insured. Okay. Well, they glazed over
[55:10.280 --> 55:11.520]  the whole fraud aspect, but that's
[55:11.520 --> 55:14.720]  fine. So he dismissed them without
[55:14.720 --> 55:17.120]  prejudice, but without leave to amend,
[55:17.440 --> 55:18.920]  which means you have to sue them
[55:18.920 --> 55:20.360]  separately. You can't sue them in this
[55:20.360 --> 55:22.520]  action or this court, technically. Okay.
[55:23.080 --> 55:24.360]  In Illinois, there's this thing called
[55:24.360 --> 55:27.000]  the saving statute and it gives you one
[55:27.000 --> 55:29.440]  year. Once something has been dismissed
[55:29.440 --> 55:31.480]  from the federal court, or I think it's
[55:31.480 --> 55:33.960]  the federal, but regardless, you have
[55:33.960 --> 55:38.920]  one year to refile that action or
[55:38.920 --> 55:40.440]  something related to that action
[55:40.440 --> 55:42.120]  against whatever that party that you
[55:42.120 --> 55:44.040]  want to. Okay. So that would be the
[55:44.040 --> 55:45.240]  insurance company. So I have till
[55:45.240 --> 55:47.480]  Tuesday to put something in court under
[55:47.480 --> 55:50.760]  that saving statute, because the statute
[55:50.760 --> 55:53.320]  limitations have actually passed for, I
[55:53.320 --> 55:56.600]  think it's passed for bad faith. It may
[55:56.600 --> 55:58.920]  not have passed for fraud on the, on the
[55:58.920 --> 56:00.240]  appart, on the part of the insurance
[56:00.240 --> 56:01.400]  company, but it doesn't matter. I just
[56:01.400 --> 56:03.360]  want to get something so I'm safe. So
[56:03.360 --> 56:06.160]  but if they find out that I'm suing
[56:06.160 --> 56:08.320]  them, they're going to buckle up and
[56:08.320 --> 56:10.240]  close up the doors and not give me any
[56:10.240 --> 56:13.000]  discovery for this case. You know,
[56:13.000 --> 56:15.720]  they'll, they'll fight me even more. And
[56:15.720 --> 56:18.200]  so I'm, I, that's what I was worried
[56:18.200 --> 56:19.960]  about because I have to get this in. But
[56:19.960 --> 56:21.320]  if I, if they don't know they're getting
[56:21.320 --> 56:24.840]  sued, then they're going to be a little
[56:24.840 --> 56:26.640]  more comfortable with their side of it
[56:26.640 --> 56:27.920]  because they're not defendants yet in
[56:27.920 --> 56:29.680]  anything. So that's the, that's the
[56:29.680 --> 56:34.200]  angle. And then when, so that makes sense.
[56:34.200 --> 56:36.560]  Yeah. So when I told the lawyer that
[56:36.560 --> 56:39.280]  he's like, you don't have to serve them.
[56:39.280 --> 56:40.920]  You just get up, you just file it. And
[56:40.920 --> 56:42.280]  he says the judge probably won't even
[56:42.280 --> 56:44.240]  look at it for 90 days anyway. And, and
[56:44.240 --> 56:46.280]  then, and then he'll ask you, you know,
[56:46.280 --> 56:47.520]  and give you more time to serve them
[56:47.520 --> 56:49.360]  after. He says you got about six months
[56:49.360 --> 56:51.040]  before you're legally obligated to serve
[56:51.040 --> 56:55.000]  them. So yeah, because it's six months.
[56:55.000 --> 56:57.240]  If the other side knows about it, they'll
[56:57.240 --> 57:00.000]  file a motion to dismiss for lack of
[57:00.000 --> 57:01.800]  prosecution. Sometimes the court will do
[57:01.800 --> 57:04.920]  that itself to clear, clear something
[57:04.920 --> 57:07.240]  off their document, docket, if it's not
[57:07.240 --> 57:08.280]  being prosecuted.
[57:10.200 --> 57:12.360]  Right. But I only need about, I only need
[57:12.360 --> 57:13.960]  about two months. I only need about 60
[57:13.960 --> 57:16.920]  days. And then, then that's part of my
[57:16.920 --> 57:18.400]  strategy. They're, they're going to get
[57:18.400 --> 57:20.240]  sued and it's going to be at the right
[57:20.240 --> 57:21.600]  time. I'm going to, I'm going to serve
[57:21.600 --> 57:23.040]  them at the right time, letting them
[57:23.040 --> 57:24.200]  know that then now they have that
[57:24.200 --> 57:26.640]  coming at them. And then there's a whole
[57:26.640 --> 57:30.560]  bunch of bar grievances coming everywhere.
[57:31.520 --> 57:34.200]  And then if, if things don't go my way,
[57:34.200 --> 57:36.600]  there's going to be appeals. So, you
[57:36.600 --> 57:37.840]  know, there's going to be a lot more
[57:37.840 --> 57:39.520]  leverage. They never, they still don't
[57:39.520 --> 57:41.880]  take me seriously. They haven't, they
[57:41.880 --> 57:42.600]  don't like they
[57:43.600 --> 57:47.000]  Do you have anything for which you
[57:47.000 --> 58:00.480]  could do? I'm sorry. That would, that
[58:00.480 --> 58:02.600]  would just be to run it up the flagpole
[58:02.600 --> 58:04.160]  to let them know you're aware of it and
[58:04.160 --> 58:08.640]  willing to do it. You can do something
[58:08.640 --> 58:09.320]  unimportant.
[58:11.160 --> 58:13.400]  I think I need an extra, I don't know
[58:13.520 --> 58:15.840]  the rules of this. I could ask, I could
[58:15.840 --> 58:18.080]  put that question out there, but are we
[58:18.080 --> 58:19.080]  getting close to the end here?
[58:20.280 --> 58:21.400]  We have about 30 seconds.
[58:22.360 --> 58:25.320]  Okay, I, I could put it out there, but I
[58:25.320 --> 58:27.040]  really should wait for the magistrate to
[58:27.040 --> 58:28.840]  make a mistake. She's starting to make
[58:28.840 --> 58:33.760]  mistakes herself. So once I get a
[58:33.760 --> 58:35.560]  legitimate paper where she's made a
[58:35.560 --> 58:37.800]  mistake and showed serious bias, then I
[58:37.800 --> 58:38.720]  could appeal for sure.
[58:39.520 --> 58:41.960]  Okay, hang on. Randy Kelton, Brett
[58:41.960 --> 58:44.480]  Fountain, we're live on radio. I call in
[58:44.480 --> 58:48.720]  number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:43.800 --> 01:04:07.840]  Okay, we are back, Andy Kelton Red Fountain on this, the 19th day of May, 2023.
[01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:12.860]  And talking to Chris in Colorado, okay, Chris.
[01:04:12.860 --> 01:04:17.080]  So you kind of have an idea of what to throw at them.
[01:04:17.080 --> 01:04:20.880]  You probably want to go a little more than 100,000 and let them come back to something
[01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:21.880]  under that.
[01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:29.720]  I've already sent the number underneath, technically, I already told the judge, I'm going to ask
[01:04:29.720 --> 01:04:35.520]  for something under 100, but it's just going to be barely, but I mean, I'm fine letting
[01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:40.920]  go a lot of that, you know, at the end of the day, I mean, who knows, they may be jerks,
[01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:46.080]  they may be stupid and say, nope, we're not even going to talk about that number.
[01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:47.920]  Okay, then we're going to trial.
[01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.160]  So then I got to call the bluff.
[01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:54.400]  The bluff's been called again and I guess got to get an attorney or do it myself.
[01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:55.760]  You know, I don't know what, I don't know.
[01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:57.040]  I've only been to small claims.
[01:04:57.040 --> 01:04:58.040]  I don't know.
[01:04:58.040 --> 01:05:04.320]  The thing about a deal is they can always make a deal.
[01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:12.480]  And depending on how well you structure your suit, there will be a likelihood of a deal
[01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.680]  all the way up to the courthouse steps.
[01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:16.680]  Yeah.
[01:05:16.680 --> 01:05:21.400]  So I got to be willing to do.
[01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:27.720]  You expect them to, you'll give them a number and they'll low ball you with a counter offer
[01:05:27.720 --> 01:05:31.880]  and you'll tell them that's a number from which I will not begin to negotiate.
[01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:36.960]  And then all of that will get called off and then you start hammering them.
[01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:45.360]  Then you do an interlocutory and let them know you're absolutely going to appeal this
[01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:51.360]  and start bar grieving them and judicial conduct, complaint, whatever is appropriate.
[01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:57.480]  You might not want to hammer the judge if the judge is being somewhat reasonable, but
[01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:02.040]  definitely want to do something with those bar grievances.
[01:06:02.040 --> 01:06:05.320]  Well, yes, I will.
[01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:07.520]  They're going to be coming hot and heavy pretty soon.
[01:06:07.520 --> 01:06:10.680]  And it's not just these, not these attorneys, it's going to be everybody that's involved
[01:06:10.680 --> 01:06:15.240]  with both companies because they've all been screwing up.
[01:06:15.240 --> 01:06:20.240]  And I've got multiple rounds of that coming.
[01:06:20.240 --> 01:06:25.080]  But I think the judge is, even from the beginning, they're feeling me out.
[01:06:25.080 --> 01:06:30.800]  You know, like the first amended complaint was over something stupid about, I use the
[01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:35.400]  word residence and he wanted me to use the word citizen, even though residence has been
[01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:42.320]  used in plenty of federal cases with respect to jurisdiction and diversity.
[01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:44.440]  So I said, fine.
[01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:48.160]  And I just changed those two words and all of a sudden doors opened a little more.
[01:06:48.160 --> 01:06:49.560]  And he says, okay, the guy is going to play ball.
[01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:50.560]  And that's what attorneys told me.
[01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:51.560]  He's just testing you.
[01:06:51.560 --> 01:06:56.400]  So they're wondering how much knowledge does this pro se really have?
[01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.560]  Well, I learn as I go.
[01:06:58.560 --> 01:07:02.200]  And he even asked me in the first hearing, the first status hearing, he says, do you
[01:07:02.200 --> 01:07:03.520]  have any experience with this?
[01:07:03.520 --> 01:07:05.200]  Have you ever done this before?
[01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:07.920]  I said, no, okay.
[01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.680]  And so now the magistrate judge is feeling me out.
[01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:15.800]  And she's a lot, she was a lot, a lot nicer to me once we got on the video than she's
[01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.880]  ever been before.
[01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.640]  And but she's feeling me out to see where I want to go with this, and because I put
[01:07:21.640 --> 01:07:25.240]  the settlement request for counsel.
[01:07:25.240 --> 01:07:30.040]  But I told her, Randy, I said, I don't want to put that number out there because I don't
[01:07:30.040 --> 01:07:31.040]  trust defense.
[01:07:31.040 --> 01:07:33.560]  They're not going to take me seriously because I'm pro se.
[01:07:33.560 --> 01:07:36.560]  I said, the courts aren't fully taking me seriously, president pro se.
[01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:40.380]  I said, they should, because here we are, we're still at court, but they're not.
[01:07:40.380 --> 01:07:44.880]  So I'm reluctant to put that number out, your honor, without representative counsel that
[01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:46.440]  I've just applied for.
[01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:52.360]  I want to do those numbers discussions within the context of a settlement discussion.
[01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:55.440]  And that way it's respected a little bit more.
[01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.560]  And that's basically what I said.
[01:07:57.560 --> 01:08:01.800]  And she says, well, just send them an email, send them one number of something.
[01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.160]  And I said, okay, maybe.
[01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:06.160]  So I'm going to do it.
[01:08:06.160 --> 01:08:09.880]  I'm going to go ahead and do it because I do want the court on my side, even though
[01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:15.480]  they're treating me like, you know, not a misbehaving stepchild, but definitely a teenager,
[01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:16.480]  you know.
[01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:23.040]  Well, and I can understand that from the court's perspective, but this court is not just blowing
[01:08:23.040 --> 01:08:25.360]  you off on everything that you bring.
[01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:33.800]  So it sounds like she's giving you some credibility.
[01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.440]  It could be a lot worse.
[01:08:36.440 --> 01:08:43.380]  I had a federal judge dismiss my petition for declaratory judgment for failure to state
[01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:47.240]  a claim of which recovery can be had.
[01:08:47.240 --> 01:08:55.080]  So I immediately filed criminal charges against him with the special agent charge of the local
[01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:59.200]  FBI.
[01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:05.920]  That was a little extreme, but it was great fun.
[01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.840]  But that same suit, we had two or three other people file the same suit and he didn't dismiss
[01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.360]  any of them.
[01:09:13.360 --> 01:09:19.200]  So it embarrassed him when he had to talk to the FBI because this guy's trying to get
[01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:26.320]  us to arrest you and he had to explain to him why they shouldn't arrest him.
[01:09:26.320 --> 01:09:32.960]  I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall.
[01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:34.480]  That guy was in his 90s.
[01:09:34.480 --> 01:09:37.280]  He's since passed away.
[01:09:37.280 --> 01:09:43.960]  Okay, but yeah, it's probably not a good time to alienate the judge.
[01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:46.960]  It may come later.
[01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:54.240]  Yeah, relationships are built before you destroy them, right?
[01:09:54.240 --> 01:09:56.640]  Sounds like you're in pretty good shape.
[01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:01.120]  You give them the number, they'll blow that number off and lowball you, then you start
[01:10:01.120 --> 01:10:09.480]  bar grieving them, then they'll find out that you're really there for business.
[01:10:09.480 --> 01:10:12.640]  Yeah.
[01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.600]  It's strange that they're testing me that way because I guess none of them are really
[01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.840]  dealt with a pro-stay going all the way to trial on their own or very few.
[01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:24.040]  I know the judges have, they've seen lots of pro-stays, but maybe these attorneys haven't
[01:10:24.040 --> 01:10:28.800]  because they're surprised we're even in federal court.
[01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:33.240]  Usually they deal with all these things outside of federal court, and they stuck the new girl
[01:10:33.240 --> 01:10:35.600]  on me, the new partner.
[01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:40.560]  She's clearly very young, very inexperienced, so I've got two attorneys against me.
[01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.400]  Pretty interesting.
[01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:45.760]  They always give the new lawyer the pro-stays.
[01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:55.720]  Yeah, but the pro guy, her superior, he shows up to most of the hearings or the bigger stuff
[01:10:55.720 --> 01:11:03.840]  and he showed up to this last one and cried a little bit here and there and whatever.
[01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.440]  He cries as much as the new girl.
[01:11:06.440 --> 01:11:11.780]  Anyway, it's a super learning experience.
[01:11:11.780 --> 01:11:16.400]  I'm definitely tired and a little burnt out, but I'm glad to have you guys to lean on to
[01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:20.600]  give me a little bit of edge me forward a little bit.
[01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:26.040]  I'll go ahead and do all that and just get prepared for whatever is necessary with an
[01:11:26.040 --> 01:11:27.040]  appeal.
[01:11:27.040 --> 01:11:32.160]  What I really like to do is just put the word appeal in my settlement offer, just stating
[01:11:32.160 --> 01:11:37.920]  that the settlement will avoid any of this category of stuff like trial, further appeals,
[01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:42.840]  or et cetera, et cetera, so they know that I know that word and then I have that option.
[01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:48.200]  It would be great in the next status hearing if they say it, well, Your Honor, he might
[01:11:48.200 --> 01:11:52.960]  want to appeal or whatever, and then she'll know without me saying, I don't know if I
[01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:55.960]  can pull that one off, but-
[01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:03.440]  Well, you can ask for a continuance to give you time to prepare an interlocutory appeal
[01:12:03.440 --> 01:12:05.840]  and get her to say no.
[01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:06.840]  Oh.
[01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:16.280]  Why do I have to be the actual judge that I'm appealing, the sort of decision for permission
[01:12:16.280 --> 01:12:17.280]  to appeal?
[01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:23.160]  Yeah, you only have to ask her no, but you ask her for a continuance, say she renders
[01:12:23.160 --> 01:12:32.560]  a ruling you don't like that will interfere with your ability to effectively adjudicate
[01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:41.480]  the case, like denying you this discovery that you need in order to know what their
[01:12:41.480 --> 01:12:43.560]  insurance limits are.
[01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:44.880]  Right.
[01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:51.240]  You might ask for a continuance so that you can petition for interlocutory appeal on this
[01:12:51.240 --> 01:12:53.240]  discovery issue.
[01:12:53.240 --> 01:13:00.480]  Denied, let her deny it, but the fact that you know the term interlocutory appeal and
[01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:06.840]  know when and how to use it, that'll give them fair warning.
[01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:10.640]  It'll freak them out.
[01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:11.640]  Very true.
[01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:12.640]  Okay.
[01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.400]  That one's a little bit over my head, I gotta sit and ponder on that one.
[01:13:16.400 --> 01:13:20.720]  I'll probably call back next week or put it on telegram to see when the timing is and
[01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:21.720]  the wording of that is.
[01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.720]  That's a great idea, actually.
[01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:25.720]  Okay.
[01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.000]  Do you have anything else for us?
[01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.840]  No, not tonight.
[01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:31.320]  Thank you so much, gentlemen.
[01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:32.320]  Okay.
[01:13:32.320 --> 01:13:33.320]  Thank you, Chris.
[01:13:33.320 --> 01:13:36.640]  Now we're gonna go to Roger in Wisconsin.
[01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:38.640]  Hello, Roger.
[01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:44.080]  Hello, good evening, Randy and Mr. Fountain.
[01:13:44.080 --> 01:13:49.200]  How often do you hear that, Brett?
[01:13:49.200 --> 01:13:50.200]  Not too often.
[01:13:50.200 --> 01:13:51.200]  Yeah.
[01:13:51.200 --> 01:13:53.320]  My phone always calls in Mr. Fountain-an.
[01:13:53.320 --> 01:13:54.320]  What do you...
[01:13:54.320 --> 01:13:55.320]  Yes.
[01:13:55.320 --> 01:13:56.320]  Go ahead.
[01:13:56.320 --> 01:14:08.240]  Firstly, I'd like to comment and say thank you so very much, Randy, for coming on our
[01:14:08.240 --> 01:14:10.960]  show, the Joe Baker's Remedy Report.
[01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:12.520]  Oh, okay.
[01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.960]  Yeah, you did a fantastic job.
[01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:23.840]  It was in the history of the transportation with Truman and everything.
[01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.880]  You explained that away in short order.
[01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.520]  It was great and everything else, too.
[01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:38.160]  But I was wishing that he would have interviewed you on your 50 criminal complaints against
[01:14:38.160 --> 01:14:39.160]  Governor Abbott.
[01:14:39.160 --> 01:14:40.160]  Oh, yeah.
[01:14:40.160 --> 01:14:41.160]  I only filed 45.
[01:14:41.160 --> 01:14:46.160]  What are you talking about, 50?
[01:14:46.160 --> 01:14:49.040]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:57.040]  But I told Joe that basically the way I see it is you're personally responsible for opening
[01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:02.760]  up commerce in the whole of the United States with that.
[01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:07.280]  Oh, wait a minute.
[01:15:07.280 --> 01:15:13.280]  Are you talking about the complaints I filed against police officers or the complaint
[01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:15.280]  I filed against the governor?
[01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:16.280]  The governor.
[01:15:16.280 --> 01:15:17.280]  Oh, yeah.
[01:15:17.280 --> 01:15:20.280]  That one's 150 page.
[01:15:20.280 --> 01:15:28.560]  Yeah, he rescinded his signature on the mandatory mask in the quarantines, of which within a
[01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:36.120]  short time, 12 other states, governors rescinded their signatures on the Emergency Powers Act,
[01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:37.120]  right?
[01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:43.560]  Yeah, I heard that there were 18, 18 or 20, I heard 18 once and 20 once.
[01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:54.000]  I did have the Supreme Court in Kentucky addressed an issue that was in my complaint.
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:16:03.560]  In speaking to the magistrate requirement, they quoted my reference to the Magna Carta
[01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:11.480]  libertatum, 1215 AD, wherein I stated that this requirement to bring before a magistrate
[01:16:11.480 --> 01:16:14.760]  has been in law for 800 years.
[01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:17.200]  They quoted that.
[01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:20.760]  Problem is, it was wrong.
[01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:32.440]  Oops, I get quoted by the Kentucky Supreme on the only thing that was blatantly wrong.
[01:16:32.440 --> 01:16:39.000]  That requirement didn't go into the Magna Carta until 1689.
[01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.920]  Oops, my bad.
[01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:43.400]  Accidents happen.
[01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:51.200]  Okay, hang on, going to our sponsors, Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain, and the rule of law
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[01:16:52.200 --> 01:16:53.200]  I won't give out the call in number.
[01:16:53.200 --> 01:17:00.200]  We've got a full board and three segments left, we'll be right back.
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[01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:04.800]  Roger in Wisconsin.
[01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:07.640]  Okay, Roger, what do you have for us today?
[01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:17.720]  Yes, another comment, whereas Dan from Maine had some valid points, but I'm privy to a
[01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:26.560]  criminal case in Southeast Wisconsin, whereas Mark from Wisconsin actually told the defendant
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[01:20:51.120 --> 01:21:00.320]  the SPD is going to help the state to convict you, which was another very true statement.
[01:21:00.320 --> 01:21:09.320]  But the thing was, you know, his, Dan's points were quite valid in that the ADA motion for
[01:21:09.320 --> 01:21:19.600]  an ADA, in this case, the motion was for co-counsel, and then the attorney, the SPD, state public
[01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:27.000]  defender it stands for, withdrew and only cited conflict of interest.
[01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:33.240]  And the judge asked the defendant, you know, what do you think about that?
[01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:41.800]  And the defendant said, I object, because Mark being an avid listener of your show told
[01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:44.360]  him all about that.
[01:21:44.360 --> 01:21:51.320]  And thank you very much for that information that you provide to the general public.
[01:21:51.320 --> 01:22:00.800]  But the thing was, the defendant requested or filed a motion in between while having
[01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:06.640]  an opportunity filed several motions, but one of them pertaining to the ADA was a request
[01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:12.360]  for a certified ADA licensed attorney.
[01:22:12.360 --> 01:22:21.240]  So that particular attorney is a specialist in ADA law, plus they also have a law degree.
[01:22:21.240 --> 01:22:25.080]  So then the prosecution said, well, that doesn't exist.
[01:22:25.080 --> 01:22:35.480]  And the judge seemed to really, you know, like you're saying, the judge will rule at
[01:22:35.480 --> 01:22:42.360]  every turn, you know, against the rule from the bench or whatever.
[01:22:42.360 --> 01:22:49.040]  And, but the thing was the co-counsel, then finally a supervisor from the prosecution
[01:22:49.040 --> 01:22:53.120]  said, you will, yes, your honor.
[01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:55.600]  We found that they do in fact exist.
[01:22:55.600 --> 01:23:00.680]  It's just that the county doesn't contract with them at all.
[01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:06.720]  Oh, well, time to do so.
[01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:10.960]  Yeah, that's how I felt too.
[01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:15.240]  And, you know, so he presented some valid points.
[01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:24.800]  It's not only though the legalese in the language, it's also strategy and, you know, a disabled
[01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:30.640]  person comes in there and, you know, they, the judge said, well, you don't look, you
[01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.440]  know, like you need a wheelchair or this or that.
[01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:40.760]  And the defendant stated, well, many times disabilities are not outrightly, you know,
[01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.000]  apparent, you know, to everybody.
[01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:51.480]  And basically they don't, people don't seem to understand it, that you got, you got to
[01:23:51.480 --> 01:23:53.720]  put, talk about steamrolled.
[01:23:53.720 --> 01:24:01.560]  I've heard people tonight on this show mentioned the world's word steamrolled and that's exactly
[01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:04.640]  what, what it really is.
[01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:11.680]  And I'm a son of a, of a, of a bailiff, a court bailiff that was a personal bailiff
[01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:18.480]  in Chicago at the Daly center and personal injury, law jury, and divorce court.
[01:24:18.480 --> 01:24:24.160]  And I used to have to go and pick her up because she didn't have a license or a car.
[01:24:24.160 --> 01:24:31.400]  And I'd be hanging out in judge's chambers and, you know, back behind the courtroom and
[01:24:31.400 --> 01:24:37.800]  I'd overhear, that was like a fly in a wall and I'd overhear, oh yeah, it's a pro se.
[01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:41.320]  Oh no, you know, not a pro se.
[01:24:41.320 --> 01:24:48.080]  I mean, they just had, yeah, they just had across the board.
[01:24:48.080 --> 01:24:56.240]  I'm talking to clerks, the bailiffs, the judges, everybody that, you know, it's just like the
[01:24:56.240 --> 01:25:06.680]  whole state and all its officers against you, the pro se, you know, so they do anything
[01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:16.960]  and everything to trip you up and I, from what I've seen over the years and that, that
[01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:19.600]  the statements made are so true.
[01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:26.320]  It's unbelievable firstly, but then, then the foreclosure, you know, I personally went
[01:25:26.320 --> 01:25:29.840]  through that horror story as well.
[01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:39.280]  And how I met Mark actually was as a driver, I had given him a ride because of a foreclosure
[01:25:39.280 --> 01:25:50.880]  case on the lake shore of Southeast Wisconsin, dropped him off at a courthouse and he said,
[01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:54.000]  okay, it should take, you know, so much time.
[01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:59.680]  And so I come back and he'd been waiting there for like an hour.
[01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:02.560]  And I said, why were you waiting?
[01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:13.000]  And he said, well, because the judge committed suicide because the pro se defendant, that
[01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:14.000]  was it.
[01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:21.920]  When Joe told you, yeah, the judge shot himself twice with a shotgun, I'm starting to laugh.
[01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:25.120]  It's really not funny and everything.
[01:26:25.120 --> 01:26:34.400]  And I personally know a lot of wonderful judges and everything from my mom and it, but the
[01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:41.920]  defendant in a foreclosure case filed such powerful pro se paperwork on mortgage fraud
[01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:47.200]  and everything and criminal complaints and everything that it seemed apparent.
[01:26:47.200 --> 01:26:51.880]  That's why he could have committed suicide over his daughter or something, I don't know,
[01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:56.400]  but it seemed apparent that that's really what it was.
[01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:00.800]  And maybe not just that one case, maybe several cases.
[01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:07.080]  So pro se's could be very, very powerful if done properly, I guess.
[01:27:07.080 --> 01:27:14.720]  Pro se's have powers and abilities beyond those of normal attorneys.
[01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.520]  We can bar-grieve the opposition into the stone age.
[01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.560]  We can judicial conduct complaint to judge.
[01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:23.080]  We can file criminal complaints against them.
[01:27:23.080 --> 01:27:27.880]  Lawyers just have to stand there and put up with whatever's thrown at them.
[01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:31.280]  But pro se, we are different.
[01:27:31.280 --> 01:27:33.160]  We could go after them.
[01:27:33.160 --> 01:27:41.120]  Well, especially when they're indigent and all the court costs, fees are waived, right?
[01:27:41.120 --> 01:27:44.680]  Yeah, they've got nothing to lose.
[01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:45.680]  Right.
[01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:46.680]  Yeah.
[01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:54.320]  And so maybe it'll inspire a lot of people to actually listen to the show more and get
[01:27:54.320 --> 01:28:07.440]  more involved and actually, gosh, like you say, 3% of the U.S. population, if they file
[01:28:07.440 --> 01:28:14.240]  the judicial bar grievances and the bar grievances against attorneys and all that and keep them
[01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:18.280]  to the rule of law, will actually make a change.
[01:28:18.280 --> 01:28:21.360]  And we need a change really bad.
[01:28:21.360 --> 01:28:23.120]  Yes, we do.
[01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:27.200]  And we are doing everything we can to generate that change.
[01:28:27.200 --> 01:28:32.920]  I have a suit here in Texas that was 30 years in the making.
[01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:36.320]  Thirty years, wow.
[01:28:36.320 --> 01:28:43.560]  If I get done what I'm after and I say never expect to win your case simply because you
[01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:49.480]  have the law and the facts on your side, I don't expect to win this case directly.
[01:28:49.480 --> 01:28:55.840]  But in filing this case, I will force all of the highest judges in Texas to read my
[01:28:55.840 --> 01:29:06.160]  dissertation on due process, where I show how every step from arrest to trial is illegal.
[01:29:06.160 --> 01:29:15.040]  If this has the effect of causing these judges to create curriculum for magistrates in the
[01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:24.440]  setting of bail that is in compliance with law, I will have laid the groundwork for a
[01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:28.040]  dramatic change in how things work.
[01:29:28.040 --> 01:29:34.000]  Just one person, we can make a really big difference if we're dedicated.
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:39.200]  Do you have anything else for us, we're about to go to our sponsors?
[01:29:39.200 --> 01:29:46.880]  Just to extend more invitation, I hope to hear you with Edward G. Griffin in the near
[01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:50.560]  future and also extend invitation to Deborah and Brett.
[01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.840]  How about it Brett, do you want to come on?
[01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:57.560]  Okay, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:23.560]  I see a tool, I see a tool Yeah, we're done, we're done, we've been
[01:33:23.560 --> 01:33:27.280]  too much for you I see tools of ingenuity
[01:33:27.280 --> 01:33:33.560]  The use against the workers of iniquity Tools that massacrate mobility
[01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:38.560]  And fail above all eternity They come from natural divinity
[01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:45.560]  With steadfast roots in authenticity Tools to regain dignity
[01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:53.560]  And rebuild the crime of dizzity And I say, truth in nature must be justice,
[01:33:53.560 --> 01:34:01.560]  I believe Truth in nature must be justice
[01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:06.560]  And love is a daunting task At least I got the peace and seed
[01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:13.560]  I sent them all to just take off the silly mask And in the light of day we all will pass
[01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:19.560]  And I see tools of ingenuity The use against the workers of iniquity
[01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:40.560]  Tools of ingenuity The use against the workers of iniquity
[01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:46.560]  Okay, we are back, Randy Calton, Brett Fountain, Lose Love Radio and we're going to close out
[01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:47.560]  Roger.
[01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:49.560]  Did you have anything else for us?
[01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:56.560]  Well, yeah, real quick, I just want to, like I said, extend an invitation to Deborah Stevens.
[01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:59.560]  Yeah, do that in email.
[01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.560]  Yes, I will, but I think it'd be great.
[01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:05.560]  Just send me an email, I'll forward it to him.
[01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:15.560]  Great, but I think it'd be interesting on her, how she took banned equipment and used
[01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.560]  it to build the radio station.
[01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:20.560]  That was so interesting.
[01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:26.560]  And then Brett, we don't know much history, you know, you seem to lurk in the background
[01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:30.560]  there and it's like, it'd be interesting to know what's your background and history and
[01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.560]  how you came on board with the rule of law.
[01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:39.560]  So yeah, please come on the show and, you know, let us know and we'll see your take
[01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:40.560]  on things.
[01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:47.560]  Deborah and I started the rule of law program.
[01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:56.560]  Yes, but then Eddie Craig came in and then subsequent to Eddie or what?
[01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:01.560]  Can we say that again?
[01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.560]  Then Eddie Craig.
[01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:07.560]  Eddie who?
[01:36:07.560 --> 01:36:14.560]  Yeah, Eddie Craig, we brought him in because he called in, asked us what to do.
[01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:17.560]  We told him what to do and he did it.
[01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:19.560]  He took them on.
[01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:21.560]  Brett, same way.
[01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:25.560]  And out of 15 years, we got two people.
[01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:30.560]  Right, but he was before Brett or Brett was before him?
[01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:32.560]  Eddie was before Brett.
[01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:34.560]  Eddie was first.
[01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:41.560]  Oh, okay, so yeah, maybe that's, you know, listeners know now, you know, that's back
[01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:42.560]  to it.
[01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:48.560]  But thank you so much again for everything and not only coming on the show but all of
[01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:57.560]  what you guys do and given a probably at least half your life and research and on these legal
[01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:03.560]  issues and statutes and codes and man, you guys are amazing.
[01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:04.560]  Thank you again.
[01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:05.560]  Okay.
[01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:06.560]  Thank you, Roger.
[01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:07.560]  Okay.
[01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:11.560]  Now we're going to go to Penny in Texas.
[01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:12.560]  Hello, Penny.
[01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:14.560]  What do you have for us today?
[01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:15.560]  Hey, Brett.
[01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.560]  How are you guys doing?
[01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.560]  Pretty good for an old fat guy.
[01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:25.560]  I really was kind of amazed by that guy and Dan and Maine.
[01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:26.560]  Yes.
[01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:31.560]  Because, yeah, I felt like he had some valid arguments going there too.
[01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:36.560]  He just couldn't get his, he kept segueing off into other areas.
[01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:41.560]  It was kind of strange, but it could be, you know.
[01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:50.560]  What I got was he has an expectation that this will always be a problem for him.
[01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:53.560]  He doesn't like it.
[01:37:53.560 --> 01:38:00.560]  Most of you probably know about a little dissertation I wrote, I call the rubber ball theory.
[01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:06.560]  And it's a method of dealing with someone on a less than conscious level.
[01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:12.560]  But I have a supplement to the rubber ball theory I call the people do opposites.
[01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:19.560]  You take someone who takes a stand, if you ever come across someone whose behavior is
[01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:21.560]  outside the cultural norm.
[01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:26.560]  One of the examples I like to use is what I call Jesus freaks.
[01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:34.560]  Now, these are not people who are truly religiously inclined.
[01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:41.560]  These are the ones that conduct themselves so that when you see them, they give this
[01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.560]  impression of, oh, look at me.
[01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:46.560]  I'm so pious.
[01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:55.560]  Well, I look at that and I say when the behavior stands out from the cultural norm, ask yourself
[01:38:55.560 --> 01:39:01.560]  what idea or impression are they trying to give you about themselves?
[01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:05.560]  And then ask yourself, what's the opposite?
[01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:13.560]  What are they trying to convince you of and thereby convince themselves of?
[01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:21.560]  I got the impression from Dan, he had the expectation that he would not be able to overcome
[01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:26.560]  this and he was objecting to it and railing in righteous indignation.
[01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:33.560]  And every time we tried to push him up on a dime to take a position and agree to take
[01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:39.560]  some action to correct this issue, he deflected.
[01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:44.560]  You will not achieve in your life what you want or what you wish for.
[01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:48.560]  The brain is not wired that way.
[01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:52.560]  You will achieve in your life what you internally expect.
[01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:57.560]  Take the child who's been abused all his life, taken out of the abusive environment, treating
[01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:01.560]  the way he's always wanted and always wished for, and he likes it.
[01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:02.560]  This is great.
[01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:03.560]  It's wonderful.
[01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:10.560]  But in the back of his mind, he's always waiting for the other foot to fall.
[01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.560]  And when it doesn't, you'll create it.
[01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:16.560]  So you have to understand that, have to expect that.
[01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:21.560]  It's not that he likes it, but it's what he knows.
[01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:29.560]  People will gravitate toward their familiarity, not their wants and wishes.
[01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:33.560]  And that's what I got from Dan.
[01:40:33.560 --> 01:40:35.560]  He's frustrated with me.
[01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:42.560]  He feels like this is an insurmountable problem and he's standing up on the problem and railing
[01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:48.560]  righteous indignation about it, but he really doesn't believe he can fix it.
[01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:51.560]  Does that make sense?
[01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:54.560]  Absolutely.
[01:40:54.560 --> 01:41:00.560]  And I was trying to move him to a point to where he could take that first step in the
[01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:03.560]  direction of actually making a difference.
[01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:08.560]  But I don't think I did a very good job.
[01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.560]  Well, I think he really thinks about it for a while.
[01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:19.560]  He might actually get a clue about what you were handing to him.
[01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.560]  He was really smart.
[01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:27.560]  He did his homework, he understood the codes.
[01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:33.560]  He could be a real influence if he just trusted himself.
[01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:36.560]  Can I tell you about what I called about?
[01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:39.560]  Go ahead.
[01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:45.560]  Have either you or Brett heard of a woman called Anna McCarthy?
[01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:47.560]  No.
[01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:52.560]  As far as I know, she is the only one who is pushing a lawsuit against Pfizer, and I
[01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.560]  actually got her up into the courts.
[01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:58.560]  But she's kind of doing this on her own.
[01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:00.560]  I don't know how to get a hold of her.
[01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:04.560]  I can't get on Telegram or Twitter.
[01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:09.560]  So Brett, if you could look her up on Telegram or Twitter and just let her know that, you
[01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:13.560]  know, you guys can help her a little bit.
[01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:17.560]  She's a widow of a military man.
[01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:23.560]  She was in Panama, and she met him there, and they got married, and he got killed by
[01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:25.560]  the jab.
[01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:37.560]  So she brought suit against Pfizer along with a man in Switzerland named Najid Pascal, who
[01:42:37.560 --> 01:42:42.560]  also submitted a lawsuit against Pfizer there in Switzerland.
[01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:51.560]  But so I don't know how far she's gotten along on this lawsuit, but I know that the
[01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:58.560]  judge has ruled in her favor, and I'm just thinking she's tired.
[01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:05.560]  And the military is not—the military is going against her because of the stance she's
[01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:07.560]  taken with Pfizer.
[01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:15.560]  And, like, she's not even receiving any kind of support, you know, like spousal support.
[01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:17.560]  I don't know if there's children involved.
[01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:19.560]  She's never mentioned them.
[01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:22.560]  But I have a feeling there might be.
[01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:24.560]  And—but I can't get on Telegram.
[01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:26.560]  I can't get on Twitter.
[01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:28.560]  You know, I'm banned everywhere.
[01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:34.560]  And if I'm not banned, it's because my equipment is too old, and I don't have a cell phone.
[01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:41.560]  So I'd be looking her up if I could, but I don't know how to get ahold of her other
[01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:43.560]  than looking in those two places.
[01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:44.560]  Of course, if you—
[01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:49.560]  Anna McCarthy.
[01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:50.560]  Okay, I will look that up.
[01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:56.560]  Do you have anything else for us on the other side?
[01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:57.560]  Okay, hang on.
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[01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:01.560]  Randy Kelton, Wet Fountain Group, La Radio, and the public opinion in Texas.
[01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:04.560]  Penny, I found her, found the lawsuit.
[01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:05.560]  Okay.
[01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:12.560]  It's the appellate case number 23-156, January 31st, 2023.
[01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:17.560]  Apparently, they ruled in her favor and Pfizer is appealing.
[01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:23.560]  I haven't found the actual case yet, but I'll be able to locate it from this.
[01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:27.560]  Well, I think she mentioned it on this little vid that I sent you.
[01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:32.560]  So just look toward the bottom of your email thing and you'll find mine.
[01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:35.560]  It says Penny here about Anna McCarthy.
[01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:37.560]  Okay, I'll have a look at it.
[01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.560]  Okay, thank you, Penny.
[01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:42.560]  I'm going to let whoever is last get in here.
[01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:45.560]  I just, I really wanted to put out a call for her.
[01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:51.560]  Okay, I haven't had much luck offering my services to people.
[01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:56.560]  It works much better if they come to me, but I'll see if I can find her.
[01:47:56.560 --> 01:48:03.560]  Your telegram group where she actually has a crowd of people around her that can help her.
[01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:09.560]  She would probably fall to tears with gratitude.
[01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:10.560]  I'm not joking.
[01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:13.560]  She's not doing this pro se.
[01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:16.560]  Okay, is she?
[01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:21.560]  She's been spending her own money to file things.
[01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:28.560]  But other than that, I don't know that she's got any lawyers working with her.
[01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:33.560]  Okay, to beat Pfizer in court, she almost certainly has some lawyers working on it.
[01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:34.560]  But I'll look it up.
[01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:35.560]  I'll find her.
[01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:37.560]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:39.560]  Okay, thank you, Penny.
[01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:46.560]  You know, say we have a law telegram group and please come tell your story, you know.
[01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.560]  She would probably just be so grateful.
[01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:51.560]  Okay, I will do that.
[01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:52.560]  Okay, thank you.
[01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:56.560]  We've got one segment left and I've got John down here.
[01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:57.560]  He was on last night.
[01:48:57.560 --> 01:48:58.560]  We didn't get to him.
[01:48:58.560 --> 01:48:59.560]  Hello, John.
[01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:06.560]  What do you have for us today?
[01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:07.560]  Hello, John.
[01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:16.560]  Wake up.
[01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:18.560]  Well, so much for John.
[01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:20.560]  He must have fell asleep.
[01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:26.560]  But in his advanced age, you can expect that kind of thing.
[01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:30.560]  John, are you going to let him get away with that?
[01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:35.560]  Are you muted?
[01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:38.560]  Hello, John.
[01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:39.560]  Oh, man.
[01:49:39.560 --> 01:49:43.560]  Okay, looks like we've lost John.
[01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:45.560]  Well, Penny, you're still on.
[01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:50.560]  We lost John.
[01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:53.560]  We lost Penny, too.
[01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:56.560]  So, back to us.
[01:49:56.560 --> 01:50:01.560]  A penny lost is a penny not earned.
[01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:06.560]  Oh, that's not very profound.
[01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:17.560]  Anyway, I just talked to my client, the guy that my co plaintiff in my lawsuit against
[01:50:17.560 --> 01:50:20.560]  all the judges in Texas.
[01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:25.560]  He wanted to make some changes and he's getting me the final changes here pretty soon.
[01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:29.560]  We'll get this thing filed and actually served.
[01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:36.560]  I am looking forward to a response from all of these judges.
[01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:41.560]  It'll be interesting to see how they do it because I sued all of them in their personal
[01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:43.560]  capacity.
[01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:49.560]  And what I said earlier, I didn't expect to win the suit, but the suit was to get their
[01:50:49.560 --> 01:50:51.560]  attention.
[01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:56.560]  You're the one that put me onto the statute that was the key to getting this filed, and
[01:50:56.560 --> 01:51:06.560]  that was 17.032, where just in the last legislature, they ordered the Court of Criminal Appeals
[01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.560]  to provide this training.
[01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:15.560]  That was a revelation.
[01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:23.560]  I've been studying this problem for 30 years, and there was always this conundrum.
[01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:31.560]  We have the courts in Texas, courts and police and magistrates, are all doing everything
[01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:34.560]  wrong.
[01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:37.560]  But they're not just doing everything wrong.
[01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:43.560]  They're all doing everything wrong exactly the same way.
[01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:48.560]  So how does that happen?
[01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:59.560]  How does everybody in Texas—we've got 254 counties in Texas with 254 sheriffs.
[01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:03.560]  Each one of those sheriffs are independent elected officials.
[01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:09.560]  How do you get all of them to go in the same direction?
[01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:16.560]  I mean, that's got to be like herding cats because they all got their own opinions and
[01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:17.560]  own ideas.
[01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:22.560]  But they're all doing it exactly the same way, and it is horrendously illegal.
[01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:31.560]  1406, 1516, 1406 arrest without a warrant for on-site offense, 1516 arrest on warrant.
[01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:34.560]  Both say take the person directly to the nearest magistrate.
[01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:35.560]  Yeah, clear.
[01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.560]  Yeah, but they don't.
[01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:40.560]  They all take them directly to jail.
[01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:45.560]  And then in the morning, they hold this what they call a magistration hearing.
[01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:50.560]  Well, if you type that in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Word will put a little red line
[01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:55.560]  under it, meaning it doesn't recognize the term.
[01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:56.560]  I don't either.
[01:52:56.560 --> 01:52:59.560]  It's not anywhere in law.
[01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.560]  They made it up.
[01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:13.560]  They made up this oddball hearing where they give the warnings in 1517, and then they do
[01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:17.560]  other stuff, and they set bail.
[01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:21.560]  Unless they already set bail before they even saw the person.
[01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:23.560]  Yeah, but they can't do that.
[01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:30.560]  There's no provision for them to set bail because the provision that directs them to
[01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:37.560]  give the warnings in 1517, it only directs them to give the warnings in 1517.
[01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:43.560]  It doesn't direct them to do anything else from 1517.
[01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:50.560]  So other than that, the only way for bail to be set is in an examining trial.
[01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:53.560]  But they're not setting it in an examining trial.
[01:53:53.560 --> 01:54:02.560]  So how did every single sheriff's department in the state of Texas wind up with this obscure
[01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:10.560]  hearing that's horribly illegal against them?
[01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:12.560]  It doesn't even exist.
[01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:16.560]  Yeah, they made it up.
[01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:20.560]  When I saw that 17.032, that was it.
[01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:30.560]  The only way for this to happen is for them all to be trained by the same entity or trained
[01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:34.560]  from the same source.
[01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:40.560]  And that point is right at the Office of Court Administration and the Texas Court of Criminal
[01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:43.560]  Appeals.
[01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:52.560]  And the problem they have is this requirement is not that they take some judicial action.
[01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:56.560]  It's that they take an administrative action.
[01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.560]  Training is not judicial.
[01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:02.560]  It's administrative.
[01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:08.560]  And when it's administrative, there is zero immunity.
[01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:15.560]  So I don't think these judges realize all of this.
[01:55:15.560 --> 01:55:22.560]  Now, often they don't even realize the distinction between their duty as a judge versus duty as
[01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:23.560]  a magistrate.
[01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:25.560]  Exactly.
[01:55:25.560 --> 01:55:33.560]  So, you know, this is a paradigm shift.
[01:55:33.560 --> 01:55:37.560]  I'm asking them to go back to the law the way it's written.
[01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:41.560]  And if they do it the way it's written, it's dramatically different from what they're doing
[01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:42.560]  now.
[01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:48.560]  So how do you get all these judges who almost certainly from the time they became lawyers
[01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:52.560]  did things the way it's been done now?
[01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:58.560]  And then they became judges, and they adjudicated things the way they're doing it now with the
[01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:00.560]  same procedures.
[01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:05.560]  And now they're the highest judges in Texas, and they're still doing things the way they've
[01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:07.560]  always done things.
[01:56:07.560 --> 01:56:13.560]  I explained this to a friend of mine who was a Justice of the Peace and had been a sheriff's
[01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:16.560]  deputy for 20 years.
[01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:23.560]  And he said, are you telling me that everything I did my whole career as a policeman and now
[01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:27.560]  12 years as a Justice of the Peace was wrong?
[01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:30.560]  And you're right.
[01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:34.560]  That everything everybody in Texas is doing is wrong, and you're right.
[01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:36.560]  I said, don't ask me, Mark.
[01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:38.560]  I didn't write the code.
[01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:39.560]  I just read it.
[01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:42.560]  Here it is, clear as day.
[01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:48.560]  This is how you're supposed to do it according to the code, but what you do is not anything
[01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:50.560]  like the code.
[01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:58.560]  And I think Mark Autry would do what he believes is right if he'd hair-lit the pope.
[01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:04.560]  But he couldn't wrap his head around the idea that he had been doing everything wrong, and
[01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:10.560]  everybody he knew had been doing everything wrong.
[01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:14.560]  And I think the Court of Criminal Appeals is going to be in the same position.
[01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:18.560]  So how do you get their attention?
[01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:26.560]  How do you get them to carefully read this 100-page presentation I gave them?
[01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:29.560]  Well, you suit the crap out of them.
[01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:31.560]  That's how you do it.
[01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:34.560]  We're going to get your bass boat, Bubba.
[01:57:34.560 --> 01:57:38.560]  Now they've got a good reason to read it.
[01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.560]  And it's, you know, I have a rule.
[01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:44.560]  Never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth.
[01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:47.560]  And I followed that rule in this presentation.
[01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:56.560]  I give them facts and law, exactly what they need to see how it should be done.
[01:57:56.560 --> 01:58:04.560]  And the way I'll win this particular case is if they start doing it the way the law commands
[01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:06.560]  them to do it.
[01:58:06.560 --> 01:58:13.560]  And this incarceration problem, this rift between the police and the public, they will
[01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:16.560]  simply go away.
[01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:21.560]  That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
[01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:28.560]  Your comment, Brett, reads something really profound in these last 25 seconds.
[01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:30.560]  That sounds great.
[01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.560]  Maybe next time around I'll tell you about what I'm looking forward to seeing coming
[01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:35.560]  out of my federal case.
[01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:42.560]  I've got district appealed to circuit, and I'm dragging a bunch of motions along with
[01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:44.560]  it that they didn't want to address.
[01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:45.560]  So that'll be fun.
[01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:46.560]  I'll tell you about that, too.
[01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:47.560]  Next time.
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