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[00:41.480 --> 00:52.400]  Today in history the year 1916 the Preparedness Day bombing a timed suitcase bomb was detonated
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[00:59.760 --> 01:09.000]  Today in history and recent news since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing
[01:09.000 --> 01:14.200]  heaven attacks law back in June County prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin,
[01:14.200 --> 01:18.860]  San Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones
[01:18.860 --> 01:22.840]  since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the lavatory equipment to
[01:22.840 --> 01:27.120]  test the herb for THC Margaret Moore the Travis County District Attorney
[01:27.120 --> 01:31.160]  announced earlier this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery
[01:31.160 --> 01:35.840]  of marijuana cases because of the law Mr. Abbott and other state officials including
[01:35.840 --> 01:39.840]  the Attorney General stipulated in a letter to County District attorneys back on Thursday
[01:39.840 --> 01:44.440]  that marijuana has not been decriminalized in Texas and that these actions demonstrate
[01:44.440 --> 01:50.360]  a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works as well as other cities too like the District
[01:50.360 --> 01:56.600]  Attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza a Democrat who also stated earlier this month that the
[01:56.600 --> 02:02.480]  law quote will not have an effect on the prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso however the
[02:02.480 --> 02:07.160]  issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball an assistant public defender in Harris
[02:07.160 --> 02:11.960]  County who stated that quote the law is constantly changing on what makes something illegal based
[02:11.960 --> 02:16.480]  on its chemical makeup it's important that if someone is charged with something the test
[02:16.480 --> 02:25.120]  matches what they're charged with a paper by Tulane University identified a five and
[02:25.120 --> 02:30.600]  a half inch American pocket shark as the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico the specimen
[02:30.600 --> 02:36.040]  being only the second pocket shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found
[02:36.040 --> 02:41.680]  way back in 1979 the East Pacific Ocean according to the university paper the sharks it creates
[02:41.680 --> 02:47.600]  a lumus fluid from a gland near its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to
[02:47.600 --> 03:06.600]  lure and prey who may be drawn into the glow this is work roadie with the loadout for July
[03:06.600 --> 03:26.600]  and I received my remedy today came in the box just like to say I accepted it for value
[03:26.600 --> 03:56.520]  all right we are back this is the rule of law radio Randy Kelton I'm Brett Fountain
[03:56.520 --> 04:11.960]  and see we are we're talking with Scott in Michigan there you are Scott I was as proud
[04:11.960 --> 04:16.880]  as you guys were of Tina for really beating him up with theocratic method there at the
[04:16.880 --> 04:21.640]  end of her call normally you want to bottle those down to yes and no questions but questions
[04:21.640 --> 04:27.440]  which the proper answer is zero are just as effective because there's little little disagreement
[04:27.440 --> 04:35.440]  about what zero means that's right I thought that was well well put the way she she worded
[04:35.440 --> 04:42.480]  that if I can't come up with any good reason to have any amount of fraud so that's great
[04:42.480 --> 04:46.800]  yeah well done now do you think do you ever use interrogatories that what those are called
[04:46.800 --> 04:53.080]  do you ever use those in a criminal case I love those I think those are great course
[04:53.080 --> 05:01.320]  my favorite is probably admissions but interrogatories yes sure do okay what's the difference real
[05:01.320 --> 05:09.880]  quick well admissions is so in interrogatories you're asking them to answer a question right
[05:09.880 --> 05:22.120]  you're it's basically deposition by a question that you write and the admission is very similar
[05:22.120 --> 05:29.440]  to an affidavit you word it carefully so that the answer is that they have to admit
[05:29.440 --> 05:38.720]  you word it as a statement of a fact officer such and such was drunk at the time of his
[05:38.720 --> 05:46.440]  that he initiated the encounter so you word that in a way that they either admit it and
[05:46.440 --> 05:52.120]  that destroys their case or they deny it and now that's going to be something that goes
[05:52.120 --> 06:01.800]  on to be heard by the court or you say the officer had I say officer I mean they're
[06:01.800 --> 06:06.280]  accusing you of something it's a crime or whatever it is that they're saying and you
[06:06.280 --> 06:15.880]  word it in a way that they admit deny or they say they might have to write in there that
[06:15.880 --> 06:22.840]  they partially admit and partially deny and then they have to explain but you're putting
[06:22.840 --> 06:28.040]  statements in there that are the same kind of a statement that you would write in an
[06:28.040 --> 06:36.800]  affidavit this is the fact here is a fact that destroys your case and if they don't
[06:36.800 --> 06:43.160]  answer which they usually don't answer they say oh I don't have to answer that I'm just
[06:43.160 --> 06:50.520]  going to blow that off but that's fine you don't answer it that's okay the rule says
[06:50.520 --> 06:54.840]  that if they don't answer it within 30 days well 30 in Texas I don't really have to look
[06:54.840 --> 07:02.320]  at your local rules there in Michigan but if they don't answer it then the all the statements
[07:02.320 --> 07:08.880]  that you made and I started in there are deemed admitted so that means they can't go back
[07:08.880 --> 07:16.560]  and argue that point they can't say whoa whoa whoa wait the officer wasn't drunk well I'm
[07:16.560 --> 07:22.640]  sorry but you already agreed that he was and that's all handled before you get to the merits
[07:22.640 --> 07:31.880]  so that's that's one thing I like about admissions in this sense you can make claims and it's
[07:31.880 --> 07:36.720]  not as dangerous as just make it because they are they're limited in how they can respond
[07:36.720 --> 07:42.520]  that's really interesting that's really interesting to know that there is a framework where you
[07:42.520 --> 07:48.960]  know you can do that yeah you only have a certain number of questions you can't just
[07:48.960 --> 07:55.720]  you know propound lots and lots of questions I think with interrogatories you might get
[07:55.720 --> 08:03.840]  25 and for admissions you might get 15 I think that's what it's set up for in Texas but you
[08:03.840 --> 08:09.760]  have a small limit you can the idea is with any of these either either one of these is
[08:09.760 --> 08:15.440]  the idea is you're trying to limit what has to be adjudicated later because if they admit
[08:15.440 --> 08:22.000]  something and both of you already set up that yeah this guy is not really a credible witness
[08:22.000 --> 08:28.840]  or whatever it is that's going to limit the scope of the case well then that makes things
[08:28.840 --> 08:33.560]  more efficient when you go to the courtroom you've already handled some of this stuff
[08:33.560 --> 08:38.320]  and you can focus on just a few issues that really need to be adjudicated when they say
[08:38.320 --> 08:45.800]  something was denied well then that's going to have to go to court yep that's interesting
[08:45.800 --> 08:50.880]  I've never heard about using those strategies in criminal cases you mostly hear about it
[08:50.880 --> 08:57.160]  in civil right mm-hmm okay cool well I'm going to go for it I think it sounds like a great
[08:57.160 --> 09:02.000]  idea well the thing is they don't like to these lawyers don't typically use them on
[09:02.000 --> 09:06.160]  each other and if they don't typically use them on each other then they don't think that
[09:06.160 --> 09:16.120]  anybody's allowed to but criminal is a subset of civil so if the criminal didn't specifically
[09:16.120 --> 09:23.800]  provide for a certain thing like this kind of discovery if it wasn't provided for specifically
[09:23.800 --> 09:27.960]  in criminals well then you have to roll back up to the more general and take a look at the
[09:27.960 --> 09:34.040]  civil what does the civil say so if the criminal says that somebody the criminal procedures
[09:34.040 --> 09:39.160]  say that well something something has to be filed with the next number of days but the
[09:39.160 --> 09:45.920]  criminal procedure doesn't say how you count days well you roll back up to the civil and
[09:45.920 --> 09:52.560]  you say how are days calculated oh it's calculated calendar days but if it lands on a Saturday
[09:52.560 --> 09:58.000]  or Sunday then you move forward to the Monday following or the one that if it's a holiday
[09:58.000 --> 10:06.360]  you move forward like that and it doesn't say that in the criminal rules but you follow
[10:06.360 --> 10:15.120]  the civil rules where the criminal didn't give you a more specific override that's good you
[10:15.120 --> 10:19.880]  see everybody seems to kind of proclaim like oh civil and criminal are two completely different
[10:19.880 --> 10:25.920]  silos but in my own mind I worked it out that because civil is from the law of equity which
[10:25.920 --> 10:36.240]  is the master law it arches over everything exactly that's right okay cool that opens
[10:36.240 --> 10:44.400]  up some pathways for me I really I really appreciate that any other thoughts about the kind of
[10:44.400 --> 10:48.640]  random Randy was talking about how you just sort things up a little bit do you have any
[10:48.640 --> 10:57.120]  other ideas about stirring things up well I like to we've got criminal complaints we've
[10:57.120 --> 11:05.160]  got bar grievances records requests are usually something that they don't see coming if you're
[11:05.160 --> 11:12.320]  in a criminal case you can start asking for things that maybe they wouldn't really expect
[11:12.320 --> 11:17.560]  you to ask for like you want to know you reach out to the HR director and you want to see
[11:17.560 --> 11:25.920]  the org chart and that helps you to to then prepare for who else is going to get a criminal
[11:25.920 --> 11:36.880]  complaint or or you might notice some things about their pay so you start asking the finance
[11:36.880 --> 11:44.960]  director for some information about everybody's payroll you want to see who gets compensated
[11:44.960 --> 11:49.360]  how much and don't just tell me their paycheck but I want to know about their pension plans
[11:49.360 --> 11:55.800]  tell me about all this and I'm sure they think I wonder why he wants all that stuff and it's
[11:55.800 --> 11:59.680]  not really about your criminal case so they can't say oh it's a matter under investigation
[11:59.680 --> 12:04.840]  we can't tell you that it's just public records and especially anything that has to do with
[12:04.840 --> 12:14.320]  finances judges a lot of judges have to have some financial disclosure on file so you ask
[12:14.320 --> 12:21.960]  for it I want to see that how many properties do you have in which counties oh interesting
[12:21.960 --> 12:26.400]  and these are the counties that I never can seem to give any justice over here or over
[12:26.400 --> 12:30.520]  there interesting so I wonder who you got pulled with and you start making some records
[12:30.520 --> 12:38.400]  requests and asking some uncomfortable questions I looked up a local politician the other day
[12:38.400 --> 12:45.920]  and it listed five properties that he owned and I felt buddy you're a sitting duck exactly
[12:45.920 --> 12:54.760]  well that's good I'll definitely take that all the heart and and see what I can what
[12:54.760 --> 13:02.480]  I can come up with you know with those ideas what else was I going to add cool thing about
[13:02.480 --> 13:08.720]  tax man I've been trying to get hold of this week what were you gonna say glad the tax
[13:08.720 --> 13:18.920]  man yeah I would that be David Lewis is that who we were yeah so who do you have in mind
[13:18.920 --> 13:29.200]  yeah Randy what's the best way for people to reach out to David send me an email ask
[13:29.200 --> 13:41.520]  for an introduction and I will forward your email to David perfect will do one last thing
[13:41.520 --> 13:45.880]  do you guys asking for a friend do you know of anybody that had any luck fighting off
[13:45.880 --> 14:03.560]  the smart meter installation well method don't know use the worst of method put a wash thing
[14:03.560 --> 14:10.560]  wash tub over and paint a smiley face on it and make sure you tie a wire on the handle
[14:10.560 --> 14:18.240]  on the wash tub and tie it to the conduit that will make the wash tub a fair day screen
[14:18.240 --> 14:27.400]  and their signal won't pass through it then they'll come come to you and talk to you about
[14:27.400 --> 14:42.720]  their not so smart meter and you can tell don't mess with my home decoration there I'll pass
[14:42.720 --> 14:50.800]  that along so no I haven't found anybody we've got a few people who are taking on the issues
[14:50.800 --> 14:59.400]  but I haven't had anyone indicate that they've run that issue the power company is saying
[14:59.400 --> 15:09.280]  that we save money by not having to send someone out every month to come and check your meter
[15:09.280 --> 15:18.000]  and the people who complain about that my question is would you rather pay a little less money
[15:18.000 --> 15:24.120]  and have the smart meter transmit your signal to the electric company or do you want some
[15:24.120 --> 15:32.360]  stranger that coming on to your property and having direct access to your property now if
[15:32.360 --> 15:37.120]  your meter's out front where they can get to it without getting inside your property
[15:37.120 --> 15:43.160]  that's one thing but what happens come in the backyard and my mother's meter was on the
[15:43.160 --> 15:48.240]  back of her house they had to come down her driveway and around and in the back of her
[15:48.240 --> 15:53.880]  house so she had strange people coming on to her property all the time they always really
[15:53.880 --> 16:01.200]  upset her and they came in and put in a smart meter and I didn't say anything about it because
[16:01.200 --> 16:09.080]  that eliminated that one problem so is the smart meter a good idea a bad idea and it
[16:09.080 --> 16:15.280]  may be depend on what your situation is yeah I think some people are concerned about the
[16:15.280 --> 16:25.080]  fires and about the radiation that they admit yeah I've heard that but you know I'm a electrical
[16:25.080 --> 16:39.040]  engineer and we evolved as a species in an electromagnetic soup the cosmos just floods
[16:39.040 --> 16:46.360]  us with electric magnetic radiation the only thing that keeps us from turning to toast is
[16:46.360 --> 16:54.960]  the atmosphere so it attenuates it but we've always had massive amounts of electrical
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[19:51.840 --> 20:15.720]  okay we are back rule of law radio randy kelton and i'm brett falton and we're talking
[20:15.720 --> 20:24.840]  with scott in michigan and scott we were talking about smart meters and opting out and i was
[20:24.840 --> 20:31.160]  taking a look at the michigan i don't know if your friend is in michigan looking at the
[20:31.160 --> 20:37.440]  michigan does have an opt out per state it's kind of there's some different rules going
[20:37.440 --> 20:46.000]  on so that might be something for your friend to consider yeah he's in he's in vancouver
[20:46.000 --> 20:53.360]  canada actually um okay but you know the trouble with it is it's just like any other government
[20:53.360 --> 20:58.000]  service it's enforced at the end of a gun barrel whether you like it or not you know
[20:58.000 --> 21:03.640]  well i like that wash tub idea put a piece of metal wash tub just put it over there because
[21:03.640 --> 21:07.680]  what are they going to say you're not allowed to decorate your house you're not allowed
[21:07.680 --> 21:15.080]  to do whatever you want with your property because now we have a spark meter yep maybe
[21:15.080 --> 21:25.480]  they'll get them to change it back and the thing about electromagnetic transmission
[21:25.480 --> 21:33.680]  they can transmit but if something blocks the transmission they're a problem not your
[21:33.680 --> 21:42.240]  problem if your meter is so smart transmit around it but if you can't transmit around
[21:42.240 --> 21:47.120]  it your problem not my problem you don't get to tell me what i do with my property and
[21:47.120 --> 21:53.080]  if i want a wash tub with a smiley face on it in this particular location deal with it
[21:53.080 --> 22:09.800]  all right well i think that may be about budget me i'm sure you can get to great well thanks
[22:09.800 --> 22:19.840]  for calling to you thank you all right good night and now we have what looks like a first
[22:19.840 --> 22:33.720]  time caller area code 360 if you are in the area code 360 give us a first name and a state
[22:33.720 --> 22:45.600]  marie in arizona hi marie what do you have for us this evening well first i want to let
[22:45.600 --> 22:51.720]  you know that it was my neighbor larry who suggested i talked to you tonight so he said
[22:51.720 --> 22:59.400]  that would give me some credibility would you happen to know larry in arizona great
[22:59.400 --> 23:09.680]  okay um so i have been cited for building a fire on my property my own private property
[23:09.680 --> 23:18.840]  during a fire ban and i don't believe that my board of supervisors has the ability or
[23:18.840 --> 23:28.960]  the legal authority to regulate this area board of supervisors visit the is an hla you
[23:28.960 --> 23:38.280]  have there nope this so i am in unincorporated county land i have seven acres of property
[23:38.280 --> 23:45.360]  and all of the fire bans that have been in effect for this area have applied only to
[23:45.360 --> 23:53.280]  public lands in the past blm land you know federal land state land parts in that and
[23:53.280 --> 24:05.360]  i am in your uh national so okay and i apologize i have a long delay here but i dealt with
[24:05.360 --> 24:20.160]  this and the legislature of the state is authorized to create law they're also authorized
[24:20.160 --> 24:30.640]  to create courts and political jurisdictions they can create courts as they need them but
[24:30.640 --> 24:40.120]  what they can't do is delegate their lawmaking authority so you notice in your county that
[24:40.120 --> 24:49.240]  counties don't have laws they have ordinances you ever thought about what they call them
[24:49.240 --> 25:00.240]  ordinances because if they cause them laws only the legislature can pass laws so they
[25:00.240 --> 25:11.240]  call them ordinances and the county is a generally a corporate entity and that corporate entity
[25:11.240 --> 25:24.440]  can establish covenants that apply to anyone who is a part of the corporation employed
[25:24.440 --> 25:32.400]  by the corporation or in contractual privity with the corporation wherein in the contract
[25:32.400 --> 25:39.760]  they agree to abide by all the ordinances but ordinances are a lot like the governor's
[25:39.760 --> 25:49.560]  executive orders executive orders only apply to the members of the judicial i'm sorry executive
[25:49.560 --> 25:58.000]  orders only apply to members of the executive branch okay they don't apply to the people
[25:58.000 --> 26:10.080]  ordinances only apply to the county corporation individuals in employed by the corporation
[26:10.080 --> 26:18.720]  wherein their employment contract includes agreement to abide by the covenants of the
[26:18.720 --> 26:27.480]  corporate contract and those in contractual privity those who are receiving funds from
[26:27.480 --> 26:34.320]  the corporation from the corporation to provide services and you're not any of those things
[26:34.320 --> 26:42.880]  i live right next to city hall and i was in a fire ban and i had a torch i was doing
[26:42.880 --> 26:48.880]  some plastic welding this patient come up and he said sir sir and i turned around and
[26:48.880 --> 26:54.800]  i see this cop i've never seen before he's a new one i said yes he said sir we have
[26:54.800 --> 26:59.720]  a fire ban on you can't have that open flame at first he said you can't have that open
[26:59.720 --> 27:03.280]  flame and i've got a little propane torch here and i held it up and rotated back and
[27:03.280 --> 27:08.560]  forth yeah sure i can but nothing to it oh no you don't understand sir we have a fire
[27:08.560 --> 27:17.000]  ban on i said so what well i said we have a fire ban you can't have that open flame
[27:17.000 --> 27:25.680]  i said sure can where does your fire ban apply to me and he mumbled off something and i said
[27:25.680 --> 27:30.920]  wait a minute wait a minute that district judge sent you out here to harass me didn't
[27:30.920 --> 27:38.800]  he john fosfell just because i filed one crummy little criminal complaint of making a terroristic
[27:38.800 --> 27:45.040]  threat against him with the attorney general he sent you to harass me didn't he this cop
[27:45.040 --> 27:52.800]  takes a step back holds up both hands with his hand with his palms out and said one moment
[27:52.800 --> 28:01.120]  sir took out his phone dialed and he talked on the phone about 30 seconds the chief of
[28:01.120 --> 28:05.640]  police stepped out of city hall looked across at me and said randy what are you doing to
[28:05.640 --> 28:16.240]  my new officer oh tom i was just jerking his chain and i said oh my god i saw my whole
[28:16.240 --> 28:27.400]  career pass before my but they cannot enforce their city ordinances or their county ordinances
[28:27.400 --> 28:38.000]  against a private citizen if they do that then they treat it as a law and you make a constitutional
[28:38.000 --> 28:44.920]  challenge and they are not going to have one okay so what can i ask that makes sense to
[28:44.920 --> 28:50.760]  me oh absolutely i'm supposed to be in court i will be in court this coming wednesday i've
[28:50.760 --> 28:59.040]  already pled not guilty and agreed to appear in court i might be able to challenge the
[28:59.040 --> 29:07.160]  jurisdiction subject matter jurisdiction send me an email i have a pleading challenging
[29:07.160 --> 29:14.600]  subject matter jurisdiction for municipality it's written in texas and texas law but i
[29:14.600 --> 29:22.480]  don't know if it's going to be almost exact same issue just look at the laws i cite and
[29:22.480 --> 29:27.880]  look them up in arizona law it would be really easy to cross reference actually this doesn't
[29:27.880 --> 29:36.280]  really go so much to laws as it goes to your constitution okay file a subject matter jurisdiction
[29:36.280 --> 29:44.040]  challenge on subject matter jurisdiction may be challenged at any time no matter how remote
[29:44.040 --> 29:54.560]  in history when a case is filed the courts assume jurisdiction however once you say i
[29:54.560 --> 30:02.720]  challenge jurisdiction technically that's all you everyone knows that walking is great
[30:02.720 --> 30:06.840]  exercise but you might want to know that the way you walk could predict how long you're
[30:06.840 --> 30:12.960]  going to live i'm dr catrin albrecht and i'll be back to tell you more about walking prognostication
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[30:51.640 --> 30:56.960]  walk one meter per second or faster live longer than expected in case you're wondering one
[30:56.960 --> 31:01.840]  meter per second is about two and a quarter miles per hour a senior's age gender and
[31:01.840 --> 31:06.400]  walking speed whereas good at predicting life expectancy as more traditional statistical
[31:06.400 --> 31:11.560]  measures generally speaking faster walkers live longer measuring walking speed is quick
[31:11.560 --> 31:16.840]  and inexpensive it only takes a stopwatch some space to walk in a few minutes researchers
[31:16.840 --> 31:22.680]  say it could help doctors identify older patients who need special care i'm dr catrin albrecht
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[33:31.760 --> 33:52.560]  you
[33:52.560 --> 33:56.560]  You know, it's also coming light
[33:56.560 --> 33:59.560]  It seems you like to space
[33:59.560 --> 34:04.560]  But please take some words to the wide
[34:04.560 --> 34:12.560]  Please stop trying to fool the world over my eyes
[34:15.560 --> 34:17.560]  Okay, we are back
[34:17.560 --> 34:20.560]  Brandy, Kelton, Brett, Fountain, Hulu, La Radio
[34:20.560 --> 34:22.560]  And we're talking to Marie
[34:22.560 --> 34:31.560]  And Marie, I suspect that you don't understand what we do
[34:31.560 --> 34:36.560]  So let me explain a little bit about what we do
[34:36.560 --> 34:40.560]  We follow law
[34:40.560 --> 34:46.560]  There are a lot of groups out there that follow what we call patriot mythology
[34:46.560 --> 34:48.560]  But we don't do that, we follow law
[34:48.560 --> 34:52.560]  We read the law the way it's written, we take the law
[34:52.560 --> 34:57.560]  The way public officials use the law
[34:57.560 --> 35:02.560]  And we cram it right down their throats
[35:02.560 --> 35:05.560]  Now, in this circumstance
[35:05.560 --> 35:12.560]  One of the things to understand is that you can never expect to win your case
[35:12.560 --> 35:16.560]  Simply because you have the law and the facts on your side
[35:16.560 --> 35:18.560]  To think so is naive
[35:18.560 --> 35:21.560]  It is not that way now
[35:21.560 --> 35:27.560]  Never has been that way so long as we have had human beings as judges
[35:27.560 --> 35:31.560]  The winner case you have, the politics on your side
[35:31.560 --> 35:34.560]  And all politics is local
[35:34.560 --> 35:41.560]  The reason for the type of argument we're suggesting here
[35:41.560 --> 35:47.560]  Is that the last thing the county is going to want to risk
[35:47.560 --> 35:54.560]  Is you bringing this argument before the Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court
[35:54.560 --> 35:59.560]  If you bring it before a judge and the judge rules against you
[35:59.560 --> 36:01.560]  That really doesn't mean much
[36:01.560 --> 36:08.560]  In fact, if you bring this argument you want the judge to rule against you
[36:08.560 --> 36:12.560]  Now, I know that sounds counterintuitive
[36:12.560 --> 36:16.560]  But if the judge rules in your favor it doesn't change law
[36:16.560 --> 36:20.560]  It doesn't force these guys to do it right next time
[36:20.560 --> 36:30.560]  Because a trial judge's ruling does not amount to substantive law
[36:30.560 --> 36:34.560]  But an appeals court ruling does
[36:34.560 --> 36:38.560]  What an appeals court or the Supreme Court rules
[36:38.560 --> 36:42.560]  All of the lawyers in the state have to follow
[36:42.560 --> 36:46.560]  So the municipality or the county
[36:46.560 --> 36:50.560]  The last thing they want to happen
[36:50.560 --> 36:57.560]  Is to rule against your claim that they don't have jurisdiction over you
[36:57.560 --> 37:05.560]  Get that claim in the appellate court and have the appellate court ruling your favor
[37:05.560 --> 37:11.560]  Because if they rule in your favor, the law in the state changes
[37:11.560 --> 37:18.560]  Now they can never cite anybody for violating one of their ordinances
[37:18.560 --> 37:23.560]  So they are not going to want that to happen
[37:23.560 --> 37:28.560]  So if they try to enforce the ordinance against you, you sue them
[37:28.560 --> 37:31.560]  But that's not that hard to do
[37:31.560 --> 37:35.560]  And they will make a deal with you
[37:35.560 --> 37:46.560]  They'll make a deal. The last thing they want is for you to bring a constitutional question to the courts
[37:46.560 --> 37:55.560]  Because at the end of the day, going to trial is always a crapshoot
[37:55.560 --> 38:01.560]  It makes no difference if you have the law and the facts on your side
[38:01.560 --> 38:09.560]  If the judge has heartburn today or the jury happens to have a particular annoyance
[38:09.560 --> 38:13.560]  They're going to rule how they're going to rule and you never know
[38:13.560 --> 38:17.560]  I walked into my district attorney's office, he's sitting with his head in his hand
[38:17.560 --> 38:19.560]  And I said, what's the matter, Greg?
[38:19.560 --> 38:27.560]  He looked up at me and he said, those darn grand jurors, you never know what they're going to do
[38:27.560 --> 38:33.560]  And that was the genius of our founders
[38:33.560 --> 38:37.560]  Juries were the genius of our founders
[38:37.560 --> 38:42.560]  But they knew that you never know what a grand jury's going to do
[38:42.560 --> 38:49.560]  If you think you can predict what that grand jury's going to do, I've got a bridge I want to sell you
[38:49.560 --> 38:55.560]  Because lawyers know it's always a crapshoot
[38:55.560 --> 38:58.560]  So they don't want to get there
[38:58.560 --> 39:05.560]  Everybody when they go into court are trying to get the best deal
[39:05.560 --> 39:07.560]  Everybody wants to make a deal
[39:07.560 --> 39:10.560]  They do not want to get to court
[39:10.560 --> 39:16.560]  Neither the grand, neither the jury or the court is ever predictable
[39:16.560 --> 39:20.560]  It's always risky, so they really make a deal
[39:20.560 --> 39:28.560]  So if you file against them for interfering with your constitutional hierarchy rights
[39:28.560 --> 39:31.560]  That doesn't matter if you have a case or not
[39:31.560 --> 39:34.560]  How much trouble can you give them?
[39:34.560 --> 39:36.560]  How much can you cost them?
[39:36.560 --> 39:42.560]  And what's the likelihood of you getting a ruling against them that will screw them up?
[39:42.560 --> 39:50.560]  In the county I live in, you can't tie up a sheriff's deputy and throw him at me
[39:50.560 --> 39:52.560]  Because I've hammered him
[39:52.560 --> 39:57.560]  I tore down half my house and completely rebuilt it
[39:57.560 --> 40:00.560]  I live right next to City Hall
[40:00.560 --> 40:04.560]  The city manager came by and said, how's your project going?
[40:04.560 --> 40:06.560]  Ah, it's going pretty good, you want to have a look?
[40:06.560 --> 40:08.560]  No, no, no
[40:08.560 --> 40:11.560]  He didn't want to step on the property
[40:11.560 --> 40:21.560]  He told all the inspectors, you leave that SOB alone
[40:21.560 --> 40:28.560]  You mess with him, he's going to drag you into court and cost you a fortune
[40:28.560 --> 40:32.560]  Marie, this is how you get them off your case
[40:32.560 --> 40:39.560]  You're going into court, file a bargain against the lawyer on the other side
[40:39.560 --> 40:46.560]  Brad, would you tell her about what happens when you bargain lawyers?
[40:46.560 --> 40:55.560]  Well, from the lawyer's perspective, it's like you just dropped a bomb in his front yard
[40:55.560 --> 40:59.560]  From your perspective, he just disappears
[40:59.560 --> 41:02.560]  They don't always disappear on the first one
[41:02.560 --> 41:05.560]  If they work for a law firm, they usually will disappear
[41:05.560 --> 41:13.560]  But if they are paid with taxpayer funds, then they might be a little slower to disappear
[41:13.560 --> 41:16.560]  If it's like a county prosecutor or something
[41:16.560 --> 41:21.560]  But they still get hit hard, it's apparently embarrassing for them
[41:21.560 --> 41:26.560]  What you're hitting is their insurance
[41:26.560 --> 41:33.560]  They're indemnity, they've got some kind of bond or some kind of coverage that protects them from malpractice insurance
[41:33.560 --> 41:48.560]  And when you file that bar grievance, you're saying this lawyer, by this name on such and such a day, violated a rule that attorneys are required to follow
[41:48.560 --> 41:54.560]  So you look at these rules, you find one that he violated and you just claim that he violated it
[41:54.560 --> 41:56.560]  It's really very simple
[41:56.560 --> 42:01.560]  And well, Randy describes what happens is that they throw him away
[42:01.560 --> 42:07.560]  And that's been my experience too, I see these letters come back
[42:07.560 --> 42:15.560]  The review board will say, oh, we've looked into the allegations and we've found that nothing's wrong and they just throw it away
[42:15.560 --> 42:26.560]  Or one thing that they've commonly started doing now is they say, oh, we've categorized your communication as an inquiry instead of a complaint
[42:26.560 --> 42:29.560]  And we've dismissed your inquiry
[42:29.560 --> 42:37.560]  So it looks like when you get your note back from them, you did your bar grievance and you wait a little while and you get something back in the mail
[42:37.560 --> 42:46.560]  And you get this, you read the letter, it looks like nothing happened, it looks like it was a failure, but it's not
[42:46.560 --> 42:58.560]  You had an effect, the lawyer disappeared or the lawyer, if it's a county prosecutor or somebody, district attorney, they might not go away right away
[42:58.560 --> 43:03.560]  But they will have somebody else deal with you
[43:03.560 --> 43:09.560]  And they will put one attorney, the guy that they don't like will be the guy dealing with you next
[43:09.560 --> 43:19.560]  And then he'll get bar grieved and then you'll bar grieve the boss and, yeah, it just tends to not work out very well for him
[43:19.560 --> 43:34.560]  So what about me in the long term, if I'm not given assurance, kind of like your last caller, if I'm not ever given assurance that, oh, you're right, sorry, we're going to back off
[43:34.560 --> 43:40.560]  What happens? How do I prevent this from happening again?
[43:40.560 --> 43:57.560]  Once you have bar grieved them, the lawyers, they will tell the code enforcement, leave that person alone
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[46:13.560 --> 46:34.560]  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I am hungry, I'd like to know just what I'm fishing for
[46:34.560 --> 46:39.560]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton
[46:40.560 --> 46:44.560]  I'm just here making my livin' pushin' button
[46:46.560 --> 46:51.560]  I get my message out, do any one and shout in distance
[46:52.560 --> 46:57.560]  I hope for bravery and against slavery to show resistance
[46:57.560 --> 47:02.560]  Okay, we are back, Randy Kelton, Brett Felton with our radio
[47:03.560 --> 47:08.560]  And we're talking to Marie in Arizona and Marie, this is a little too complex to do in a soundbite
[47:09.560 --> 47:14.560]  It's a little hard to do just on a radio program
[47:15.560 --> 47:20.560]  But if you will listen to this show for a while or go in and pull some of our archives
[47:21.560 --> 47:23.560]  We talk about these issues all the time
[47:23.560 --> 47:28.560]  It's not the way they taught in high school
[47:29.560 --> 47:34.560]  I keep remembering Paul Simon's song, Codacrome
[47:35.560 --> 47:41.560]  After all the crap I've learned in high school, it's not like what they showed you in high school
[47:42.560 --> 47:45.560]  It's not that we can't beat them
[47:46.560 --> 47:50.560]  We just can't beat them the way they gave us the impression we could
[47:50.560 --> 47:52.560]  It's all politics
[47:53.560 --> 48:01.560]  I say it all the time that you can never expect to win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side
[48:02.560 --> 48:04.560]  Just think so as you leave
[48:05.560 --> 48:07.560]  It is not that way now
[48:08.560 --> 48:11.560]  Never has been that way so long as we've had human beings as judges
[48:12.560 --> 48:17.560]  You can expect to win your case if you have the politics on your side and all politics is local
[48:17.560 --> 48:23.560]  What we do is try to show you how to affect the politics
[48:24.560 --> 48:30.560]  And when it comes to politics, you are the most political, powerful person in the county
[48:33.560 --> 48:36.560]  Reason? You're not a judge
[48:37.560 --> 48:40.560]  You're not a prosecutor
[48:41.560 --> 48:44.560]  You're not a clerk, a bailiff, a policeman
[48:44.560 --> 48:46.560]  They're all public servants
[48:47.560 --> 48:53.560]  You? You are the master of those servants and they get that at their professional peril
[48:54.560 --> 48:56.560]  And we're sure how to do that
[48:57.560 --> 49:05.560]  But it is a little too complex for this sort of presentation
[49:06.560 --> 49:08.560]  Listen to our show a little bit
[49:09.560 --> 49:11.560]  We go over the basics all the time
[49:11.560 --> 49:16.560]  And once you begin to give the basics, the rest of it just falls into place
[49:17.560 --> 49:18.560]  Okay
[49:19.560 --> 49:21.560]  So you have a...
[49:22.560 --> 49:23.560]  Yeah, sorry
[49:24.560 --> 49:31.560]  I just want to tell you that I do feel much more confident and I think I'm going to be much more relaxed in court on Wednesday
[49:32.560 --> 49:34.560]  So thank you so much for your time and expertise
[49:35.560 --> 49:39.560]  And just so you know, I've already sent you a email maybe an hour ago or so
[49:39.560 --> 49:43.560]  Stating that I hadn't been able to get through to you tonight
[49:44.560 --> 49:46.560]  Thinking that I was just going to be listening
[49:47.560 --> 49:48.560]  So that did come from me
[49:49.560 --> 49:52.560]  So I will look for your response and any other information
[49:53.560 --> 49:54.560]  And I just want to say thank you
[49:55.560 --> 49:56.560]  I'm going to go from there
[49:58.560 --> 50:01.560]  Go to my website, rulelawradio.com
[50:02.560 --> 50:05.560]  My email will be on there, see me at email
[50:05.560 --> 50:07.560]  See me at email
[50:08.560 --> 50:09.560]  I'll send you a...
[50:10.560 --> 50:11.560]  Yeah
[50:12.560 --> 50:16.560]  So when you see the name Marie, you'll know it came from me
[50:17.560 --> 50:19.560]  And then I'll look for other information
[50:20.560 --> 50:21.560]  Alright
[50:22.560 --> 50:23.560]  Thank you very much guys
[50:24.560 --> 50:26.560]  There's one thing I have to warn you about
[50:27.560 --> 50:28.560]  I apologize
[50:29.560 --> 50:32.560]  I'm having about a one or two second delay
[50:32.560 --> 50:35.560]  Because I've got real bad reception today
[50:36.560 --> 50:37.560]  So it's a little bit cumbersome
[50:38.560 --> 50:40.560]  But I do have to warn you about one thing
[50:41.560 --> 50:42.560]  Once you start doing this
[50:43.560 --> 50:44.560]  And start taking these guys on
[50:45.560 --> 50:49.560]  It can become so much fun
[50:50.560 --> 50:51.560]  That it gets addictive
[50:56.560 --> 50:57.560]  That's a drawback
[50:57.560 --> 51:01.560]  If I want this in my life right now
[51:02.560 --> 51:03.560]  I really don't
[51:04.560 --> 51:05.560]  I really just want to be left alone
[51:06.560 --> 51:09.560]  But I've committed myself to defending my right
[51:10.560 --> 51:12.560]  And if this is what I have to do
[51:13.560 --> 51:15.560]  I'm going to try and do it as gracefully as I can
[51:16.560 --> 51:18.560]  And just enjoy my retirement years
[51:19.560 --> 51:21.560]  So all you can do at this point I think
[51:22.560 --> 51:23.560]  But thank you so much
[51:23.560 --> 51:26.560]  I'm really glad that Larry turned me on to you guys
[51:27.560 --> 51:29.560]  So I appreciate everything you've done in your program
[51:30.560 --> 51:31.560]  Thank you
[51:32.560 --> 51:33.560]  Cool
[51:34.560 --> 51:35.560]  Alright, well thanks for calling
[51:36.560 --> 51:38.560]  Okay, you guys have a good night
[51:39.560 --> 51:40.560]  Bye bye
[51:41.560 --> 51:43.560]  And now, let's see we've got
[51:45.560 --> 51:47.560]  Chris in Colorado
[51:48.560 --> 51:50.560]  Chris, good evening
[51:50.560 --> 51:52.560]  What have you been up to?
[51:53.560 --> 51:55.560]  I wasn't expecting to call in
[51:56.560 --> 51:59.560]  But I got a couple different balls thrown at me today from the judge
[52:00.560 --> 52:03.560]  So I just want to reset my bearings here if I could
[52:05.560 --> 52:08.560]  I was planning to put in a status report
[52:09.560 --> 52:10.560]  And show up next week
[52:11.560 --> 52:12.560]  And he beat me to it and said
[52:13.560 --> 52:15.560]  Okay, since you don't have your parties served
[52:16.560 --> 52:17.560]  You failed to serve them
[52:17.560 --> 52:19.560]  So I was just rescheduling
[52:20.560 --> 52:22.560]  So that saved me some time
[52:23.560 --> 52:25.560]  But I also found out something about summons
[52:26.560 --> 52:28.560]  Everything I had looked through as far as Rule 4
[52:29.560 --> 52:32.560]  And the federal rules said it was 120 days from the time you filed a claim
[52:33.560 --> 52:36.560]  And actually they changed it some time back in 90 days
[52:37.560 --> 52:40.560]  So lost 30 days to serve the parties
[52:42.560 --> 52:45.560]  And I'm not going to be ready with a decent claim
[52:45.560 --> 52:47.560]  And it was accepted so it's decent
[52:48.560 --> 52:50.560]  But I don't have everything in there that I need
[52:51.560 --> 52:53.560]  So I guess one of my questions is
[52:54.560 --> 52:55.560]  I'm going to need to buy some time
[52:56.560 --> 53:00.560]  Or do I just serve the somewhat
[53:01.560 --> 53:04.560]  It's just vague on some of the things to me that I want to put in
[53:05.560 --> 53:07.560]  To the parties and then amend it later on
[53:09.560 --> 53:10.560]  Okay, hold on
[53:11.560 --> 53:12.560]  If you want to buy time
[53:12.560 --> 53:15.560]  Then file an amended pleading
[53:16.560 --> 53:19.560]  If you have something that you need in your pleading
[53:20.560 --> 53:21.560]  That wasn't there
[53:22.560 --> 53:24.560]  Since the other party hasn't responded
[53:25.560 --> 53:28.560]  Filing an amended pleading will harm nobody
[53:29.560 --> 53:30.560]  But it will reset the clock
[53:31.560 --> 53:33.560]  So file an amended pleading
[53:34.560 --> 53:36.560]  Your original pleading is gone
[53:37.560 --> 53:40.560]  Everything you want must be in the amended
[53:40.560 --> 53:43.560]  Anything that's not in there is not before the court
[53:44.560 --> 53:46.560]  So build your amended pleading and file it
[53:47.560 --> 53:48.560]  The clock restarts
[53:50.560 --> 53:51.560]  Okay, so the judge
[53:52.560 --> 53:55.560]  The time for serving, serving and restarts
[53:56.560 --> 53:58.560]  Okay, that's kind of what I was thinking too
[53:59.560 --> 54:01.560]  But obviously I'm pretty green at all this stuff
[54:02.560 --> 54:03.560]  And trying to relearn it as I go
[54:04.560 --> 54:07.560]  When the judge did not accept my first pleading
[54:07.560 --> 54:10.560]  My first claim, he said you need to correct this blah blah blah
[54:11.560 --> 54:12.560]  In between the lines, I corrected it
[54:13.560 --> 54:14.560]  And had it in 30 days later
[54:15.560 --> 54:16.560]  And then it was accepted
[54:17.560 --> 54:18.560]  And that was just a month ago
[54:19.560 --> 54:23.560]  So I assumed too that that amended complaint was
[54:24.560 --> 54:25.560]  Kind of a reset
[54:26.560 --> 54:27.560]  But what he said today in his order was
[54:28.560 --> 54:30.560]  No, you got till July 27th and that's your 90 days
[54:31.560 --> 54:33.560]  Because your original claim went in on the 27th of April
[54:33.560 --> 54:38.560]  So I don't know how to interpret that
[54:42.560 --> 54:46.560]  What is your difficulty with serving them?
[54:48.560 --> 54:50.560]  Three of the parties isn't too bad
[54:51.560 --> 54:52.560]  I got at the insurance company
[54:53.560 --> 54:54.560]  They're done through the Department of Insurance
[54:55.560 --> 54:56.560]  20 bucks a piece
[54:57.560 --> 54:58.560]  The other person, the other business
[54:59.560 --> 55:00.560]  I have to an attorney
[55:00.560 --> 55:02.560]  I know the service agent
[55:03.560 --> 55:05.560]  And the registered agent, sorry
[55:06.560 --> 55:08.560]  But the two parties, one of them I have no idea where he is
[55:09.560 --> 55:10.560]  I only have a name
[55:11.560 --> 55:12.560]  And the woman who owns the company
[55:13.560 --> 55:14.560]  Technically she's served because it's her company
[55:15.560 --> 55:17.560]  But she's also individually needs to be served
[55:18.560 --> 55:19.560]  She likes to skate
[55:20.560 --> 55:21.560]  Once she knows somebody's on her, she won't show up to work
[55:22.560 --> 55:24.560]  And so I probably won't get her served unless she's lucky
[55:25.560 --> 55:27.560]  Okay, no problem
[55:27.560 --> 55:32.560]  Go to the court and tell the court you're unable to locate these people
[55:33.560 --> 55:37.560]  And ask the court for authorization to serve by publication
[55:41.560 --> 55:45.560]  And then you follow a little notice in a newspaper
[55:46.560 --> 55:47.560]  In the general area
[55:49.560 --> 55:50.560]  And it's a done deal
[55:51.560 --> 55:52.560]  People have avoided service forever
[55:52.560 --> 55:56.560]  And the courts have developed remedies
[55:57.560 --> 55:58.560]  Okay
[55:59.560 --> 56:00.560]  So notify the court
[56:01.560 --> 56:05.560]  Tell them what your efforts have been to serve them
[56:06.560 --> 56:12.560]  And this woman has a history of hiding when she knows she's tried to serve her
[56:13.560 --> 56:16.560]  And then the court will say you can serve by publication
[56:17.560 --> 56:18.560]  You file these and it don't take 30 days
[56:19.560 --> 56:20.560]  And then it's done
[56:20.560 --> 56:21.560]  Okay
[56:23.560 --> 56:26.560]  So just look up, serve by publication
[56:27.560 --> 56:28.560]  Yeah, I'm familiar with that
[56:29.560 --> 56:30.560]  I actually did it for a small claim
[56:31.560 --> 56:32.560]  Or I was almost going to do it for a small claim
[56:33.560 --> 56:34.560]  So they couldn't find the guy
[56:35.560 --> 56:36.560]  Luckily he just cooked out the door one day and they got him
[56:37.560 --> 56:40.560]  But I'm going to need more time
[56:41.560 --> 56:44.560]  Because the judge, he's not profs days, he's not fond of profs days
[56:45.560 --> 56:47.560]  But he's also very supportive of profs days, which is interesting
[56:47.560 --> 56:51.560]  But he's saying I have to look to the 27th or it'll be dismissed without prejudice
[56:52.560 --> 56:53.560]  So in order, that's only two and a half weeks away
[56:54.560 --> 56:58.560]  So I've got to get, I have to ask for more time one way or the other
[57:00.560 --> 57:02.560]  Because even if I start serving people right now
[57:03.560 --> 57:04.560]  Okay
[57:05.560 --> 57:06.560]  You'll have time
[57:07.560 --> 57:08.560]  We'll make a suggestion
[57:09.560 --> 57:10.560]  Nonsuit
[57:14.560 --> 57:15.560]  Nonsuit
[57:15.560 --> 57:16.560]  Nonsuit
[57:17.560 --> 57:21.560]  And that allows you to refile the only cost of your firing shoes
[57:24.560 --> 57:29.560]  How is your statute of limitations time running?
[57:32.560 --> 57:35.560]  Well, I'm in on the original to the day
[57:36.560 --> 57:38.560]  So the suit is the only thing that's keeping it alive
[57:39.560 --> 57:40.560]  That was April 27th
[57:41.560 --> 57:42.560]  That the statute ran out on consumer fraud
[57:42.560 --> 57:44.560]  But that's why I did it
[57:45.560 --> 57:46.560]  The rest of them, I've got another two years
[57:47.560 --> 57:50.560]  But the fat one, which is the big one, which is the anchor for this whole suit
[57:51.560 --> 57:54.560]  Was on three years, April 27th, which is past three months ago
[57:58.560 --> 58:00.560]  So you have to maintain this suit
[58:01.560 --> 58:02.560]  Yeah, I don't want to do nonsuit
[58:02.560 --> 58:15.560]  And then file a motion for extension of time and request for authorization to do service by publication
[58:16.560 --> 58:21.560]  Because the defendants are aware of your suit and they're avoiding service
[58:23.560 --> 58:26.560]  And you most likely get to judge to give you an extension
[58:28.560 --> 58:29.560]  Got twenty seconds
[58:29.560 --> 58:32.560]  I got one more quick question after that
[58:33.560 --> 58:34.560]  Hang on
[58:37.560 --> 58:38.560]  We'll be right back on the other side
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[01:03:20.560 --> 01:03:45.560]  Okay, we are back.
[01:03:45.560 --> 01:03:50.560]  We're in Kelton Brett Fountain blue blood radio and we're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:03:51.560 --> 01:03:54.560]  Chris, where was I when I ran off to cliff?
[01:03:55.560 --> 01:03:59.560]  Okay, you told me to do the motion after all for an extension.
[01:04:00.560 --> 01:04:04.560]  So I'll go ahead and do that and hopefully that works.
[01:04:05.560 --> 01:04:07.560]  At least if he kicks it out, that sets me up for an appeal.
[01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:14.560]  But I'm struggling. I'm hoping I might ask for some more help from actual lawyers like this because I just can't get this thing done.
[01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:23.560]  But one of the main things I wanted to work on Randy and Brett is, so I've talked to three different lawyers at that free help thing.
[01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:26.560]  And two of them said, yeah, you include the insurance company.
[01:04:27.560 --> 01:04:29.560]  They're involved, so you include everybody.
[01:04:29.560 --> 01:04:37.560]  One of them says, well, yeah, the nature of how they involve themselves definitely involves them. And then this random guy really didn't look over anything.
[01:04:38.560 --> 01:04:40.560]  He says, well, the insurance company doesn't have any stake in it.
[01:04:41.560 --> 01:04:45.560]  Therefore, the judge will probably dismiss them because he didn't know the possibility.
[01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:56.560]  So I've gone back and forth on this myself, but I've looked at it and if an insurance company just kind of keeps a distance and lets their client bury themselves, that's one thing.
[01:04:56.560 --> 01:05:02.560]  But this insurance company steps in, made claims about the documents that were required.
[01:05:03.560 --> 01:05:05.560]  I mean, they just spoke for their client.
[01:05:06.560 --> 01:05:12.560]  And then the big one is, is that I sent them basically a tort letter, a demand letter saying, let's negotiate something.
[01:05:13.560 --> 01:05:18.560]  And I sent it to both the insurance company and I said, could you please serve us to your client because they never respond to me.
[01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:21.560]  Well, I don't get a response from the client.
[01:05:21.560 --> 01:05:28.560]  I get a response from the insurance company and now it's a lawyer taking an actual legal opinion about what went on.
[01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:31.560]  And he actually claimed that I did something illegal.
[01:05:32.560 --> 01:05:36.560]  Therefore, that's why they're denying the claim that I put forth for damages, etc.
[01:05:37.560 --> 01:05:45.560]  And I thought that was extremely bold and out of character that he would, first of all, make a false statement and secondly stand on that type of position.
[01:05:45.560 --> 01:05:50.560]  And so I'm trying to... And who is he to even come up with any testimony of his own anyway?
[01:05:51.560 --> 01:05:51.560]  Exactly.
[01:05:52.560 --> 01:05:55.560]  And how is he going to make a legal determination about what's legal and what's illegal?
[01:05:56.560 --> 01:05:57.560]  Exactly.
[01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:09.560]  So my question is, is there a term for that that I could look up and dig a little deeper for some case file that you cannot do that outside of a court proceeding?
[01:06:09.560 --> 01:06:14.560]  And then secondly, lie about it, you know, you made a false statement.
[01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:16.560]  Is there something I can look for?
[01:06:17.560 --> 01:06:18.560]  Is there a phrase you guys know off top of your heads?
[01:06:19.560 --> 01:06:22.560]  So I can find case law to really anchor these guys into the suit.
[01:06:23.560 --> 01:06:27.560]  That's my main thing is I got to get this insurance company into the suit heavily.
[01:06:28.560 --> 01:06:33.560]  They're in there right now, but I need to make sure the judge doesn't, you know, him and ha to get it out.
[01:06:34.560 --> 01:06:35.560]  Once I serve them, they're going to start barking.
[01:06:36.560 --> 01:06:37.560]  I know it.
[01:06:37.560 --> 01:06:38.560]  So...
[01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:46.560]  Hello?
[01:06:47.560 --> 01:06:48.560]  Yeah, we hear you.
[01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:51.560]  Oh, sorry, you cut out for about 70 seconds there.
[01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:54.560]  Okay.
[01:06:55.560 --> 01:06:57.560]  I'm having a little trouble with the lag on my side, so...
[01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:03.560]  I don't really know how to answer all of that.
[01:07:04.560 --> 01:07:05.560]  I was trying to keep up with all of it.
[01:07:05.560 --> 01:07:08.560]  You are getting in a time crunch.
[01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:23.560]  So the best thing you can do is ask the court for some, you know, notify the court that your defendants are avoiding service.
[01:07:24.560 --> 01:07:33.560]  This issue of the insurance company, whether they can be a litigant or not, is iffy.
[01:07:33.560 --> 01:07:40.560]  I understand that the lawyer is telling you to name them, because that's certainly to give them notice.
[01:07:41.560 --> 01:07:46.560]  But as far as I understand that the insurance company doesn't owe you anything.
[01:07:47.560 --> 01:07:58.560]  They indemnify the defendant, but that does not make them a liable, a party to the suit.
[01:07:58.560 --> 01:08:02.560]  Only the defendant is.
[01:08:03.560 --> 01:08:09.560]  So they don't owe you, you know, when you get a claim against the defendant, that doesn't give you a claim against the insurance company.
[01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:11.560]  The insurance company had to pay it.
[01:08:12.560 --> 01:08:20.560]  And so when the insurance company sends in their lawyers, you use Brett Fowler's tricks on them.
[01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:23.560]  Now, who the heck are you guys?
[01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:29.560]  Well, where's your insurance company? Well, I don't know, you're not my insurance company, you get lost.
[01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.560]  And you should be.
[01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.560]  And barbeque them into the Stone Age, you can get rid of them.
[01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.560]  The whole point of all of this is to get them to want to come to the table.
[01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:46.560]  But it sounds like you're up against serious time crunch in getting the party served.
[01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:54.560]  Yeah, I mean, I thought I had more time and I was going to ask, do I just tell the judge I made a mistake?
[01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:02.560]  And can I have an extension for 90 days to address all this and get everybody served and amend my complaint to properly, you know.
[01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:15.560]  Okay, if the judge denies, do you file that as a motion? If the judge denies the motion, file an interlocutory appeal.
[01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:17.560]  Okay.
[01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:20.560]  Interlocutory appeal stops everything.
[01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:22.560]  That'll give you time.
[01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:25.560]  And then you can continue to try to serve.
[01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:27.560]  Okay.
[01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:29.560]  Go ahead, Brett.
[01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:32.560]  Yeah, no, that's a good idea because then that gives him time.
[01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.560]  It kind of stops the clock.
[01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:40.560]  Okay.
[01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:43.560]  Okay.
[01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:45.560]  Well, I'll get this out early.
[01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:54.560]  No, if the court of appeals rules against you, you'll be back in the same place you were.
[01:09:54.560 --> 01:10:03.560]  But generally, service is a big deal and if you show due diligence in attempting to serve and the other party is avoiding service,
[01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:08.560]  then the other party is the one that creates a problem for themselves.
[01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:14.560]  So, you know, the appellate court's more likely to rule in your favor.
[01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:19.560]  You'd have to do some research on that because this is not an uncommon occurrence.
[01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:24.560]  So, there's going to be stacks of loss of case law on this.
[01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:26.560]  Okay.
[01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:33.560]  Well, most of it's just me taking my time because I think, you know, I've been working so hard, I just haven't sat down to make them serve.
[01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.560]  But I got my summons shield today from the court.
[01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:43.560]  I'm just, you know, even calling you guys over the past year on this, we've gone back and forth with the insurance company.
[01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:48.560]  You know, when I explained it one way, it was like, well, they stuck their nose in and you definitely go after them.
[01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:53.560]  And then we go out, we look at it another way and it's like, well, they have no, they have no stake in it.
[01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:57.560]  But, you know, like my original question, a lawyer,
[01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.560]  I'm sorry, this lag is causing a problem.
[01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:09.560]  Okay.
[01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:15.560]  If a lawyer, you know, if I look at all the emails, originally they basically said we're siding with their client.
[01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:17.560]  If you don't like it, you can take us to court.
[01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:27.560]  And, you know, that's basically what they said over and over in the emails, but they never really said anything too much other than, you know, there's no documents.
[01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:29.560]  We're not producing the documents, et cetera, et cetera.
[01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.560]  They never bother to look at the law that they're actually, the clients require to produce the documents.
[01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:35.560]  They just didn't care.
[01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:48.560]  But when that lawyer for the legal department, when I sent them the demand letter, when he responded as if he had the ability to make a legal position, a legal judgment, to me, that was way stepping over the boundary.
[01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.560]  And so I definitely want to bring attention to that because to me, that just brought them in.
[01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:00.560]  He now says, I am speaking for the client and we have made a judgment as a company, you were illegal.
[01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:04.560]  And that's why we as a company are denying the claim.
[01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:09.560]  And I don't know how he can do something like that.
[01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:15.560]  Is there a notice of representation in the court?
[01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:17.560]  No.
[01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:29.560]  Did he's not representing the client? He can't unless he's notified the court that he's representing the client.
[01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:38.560]  Did he say or do anything that would tend to kill your access to the court?
[01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:47.560]  No, he was just speaking out of his own arrogance essentially that, you know, I'm a lawyer, I'm speaking for my insurance company.
[01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:53.560]  I'm the legal counsel for the insurance company and you were the one who's illegal, therefore, it's off essentially.
[01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.560]  And yet that's a false statement.
[01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.560]  I even sent them the ruling that his client was the one that was illegal.
[01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:07.560]  So, you know, he's playing judge and, you know, essentially jury for a negotiation, essentially.
[01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.560]  I was trying to, I was trying to, since nobody was talking, he sent the insurance company.
[01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:20.560]  Okay, so if you're going for a negotiation, Bargreaves is not out of them.
[01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:23.560]  Oh, I will. I am. I will.
[01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:35.560]  And in file, do it immediately, put the pressure on them and file, you might, if the lawyer told you anything that you believe was not true,
[01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:42.560]  file for sanctions against the lawyer and file a judiciary, I mean, Bargreaves is against them.
[01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:44.560]  Turn the heat up on them.
[01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:46.560]  Okay.
[01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:53.560]  Don't wait on these. When they give you the opportunity to go after them, don't waste it. Go for it.
[01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:55.560]  Okay.
[01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:57.560]  All right, I'll...
[01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.560]  My main concern with your case is you run out of time.
[01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.560]  Yeah. Well, I can always ask for it.
[01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:11.560]  The law says if you have good reason for an extension, you can ask for it and the court must grant it.
[01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:13.560]  I think I've got some good reason.
[01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.560]  Yeah, and even...
[01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.560]  The best reason is avoidance of service.
[01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:25.560]  Yeah, but that's mostly my fault. What there's part of it is I don't have the money to do everybody at once. I need some time to...
[01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:31.560]  I can do three of them. I can afford three of them, but I can't afford the other two until next month, you know, that type of thing.
[01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:36.560]  So, it's just... And it's the court's fault because they denied my inform upon...
[01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:44.560]  Do you know some... Wait a minute. Do you know someone who can serve... Anybody can serve except you?
[01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:46.560]  Right.
[01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:52.560]  So, do you know someone you could get as a courier? I've got a friend, Ken Magnuson. He loves to do this.
[01:14:53.560 --> 01:15:00.560]  I gave him to him. He's got this little courier form and he walks in here. These are for you. Sign here.
[01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:11.560]  Who are you? I'm a courier. What are you about? I don't know. I'm just a courier. I gave him to you. You sign it, saying you got it. I'm out of here.
[01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:13.560]  Anybody can do this.
[01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:16.560]  I don't know anybody in Chicago.
[01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:32.560]  So, you know somebody... I've got a brother in Chicago, but he's a wuss. I used to know everybody in Chicago.
[01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:43.560]  Anybody listening who's in Chicago who would be willing to annoy these people, send me an email. See if we can find him a courier.
[01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.560]  Hey, this is great fun.
[01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.560]  Ken, he just loves it when I give him the opportunity to do that.
[01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:59.560]  He used to go in there and jerk them around. They ask him all kinds of questions. I am just a courier. Here, you sign right here.
[01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:01.560]  It has great fun with it.
[01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.560]  If anybody's in Chicago area and willing to serve these for them, let us know.
[01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.560]  Way cool. Well, thank you for doing that one.
[01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:22.560]  I will check. We have Brett and I are on a telegram, a channel, and I'll check on the channel to see if we've got somebody in Chicago.
[01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:34.560]  Send me an email, Chris, so I have your email. I'm sure I have it, but I get about a hundred a day, so it gets buried real quick.
[01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:42.560]  An outlook screwed up my search function. So, send me an email about that. If I can find somebody in the Chicago area, I'll give them a contact with you.
[01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:55.560]  Okay. You guys ever come up with an idea of our grieving registered agents of businesses, even though they weren't at fault for just the registered agents if they're a lawyer?
[01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:58.560]  Huh. Let's look at that on there.
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[01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:06.560]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Brett Fountain with our radio. We're talking to Chris in Colorado.
[01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:21.560]  Chris, we really need to move along. Will you send me an email so I can get it to someone else in Colorado has an issue that I told them I would refer them to you? Would that be okay with you?
[01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:28.560]  Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't have you in mute. My page is slow.
[01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:30.560]  All right.
[01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:32.560]  Very refreshing.
[01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:41.560]  Okay. Chris, can you send me an email? I want to get someone to you if that's okay with you.
[01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:50.560]  And I'll ask everybody on this telegram site, if anybody's willing to do this, see if we can get you some volunteers.
[01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:53.560]  Oh, wow. Thank you so much, Randy. Thank you.
[01:20:55.560 --> 01:21:02.560]  Okay. Thank you, Chris. Now we're going to go to Chris in Ohio. Hello, Chris.
[01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:10.560]  Hang on a second. Let me get this page to refresh and see if I got you unmuted.
[01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:21.560]  This is annoying me. Okay, he's not unmuted. Let's try it again.
[01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:23.560]  There he is.
[01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:25.560]  Can you get him, Brett?
[01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.560]  Are you there, Chris? Hello.
[01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.560]  Yes, sir. I'm here. Can you hear me?
[01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:34.560]  All right. Yes.
[01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:46.560]  We got you. Okay. Great. I'm the guy that called in, I don't know, probably about three or four weeks ago about the retaliation lawsuit for the wrongful termination.
[01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:52.560]  And I went through the process of trying to find some attorneys to handle this, but I got turned down by most of them.
[01:21:52.560 --> 01:22:04.560]  But one guy that actually used to work for me informed me that there's a law library actually in my town that has like litigation manuals and things of that nature and basically resources that I can use for that.
[01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:15.560]  So I was just wondering if you think that the best course action for me to take would maybe just to go down there and, you know, pretty much bury my head in the books for a couple months and try to find some case law regarding this.
[01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:28.560]  And then my notes from the last time we talked are roughly the kind of idea that you said I should try to build a lawsuit and then send them a court letter with what I, you know, kind of like my demands.
[01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:34.560]  And then if they don't respond or respond in a way I don't like, then I can pursue it further than that.
[01:22:35.560 --> 01:22:38.560]  That's pretty much kind of the blueprint of what I'm trying to do here, correct?
[01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:53.560]  All right. Generally, if you're suing a governmental entity, most governmental entities require a court letter 60 days before you sue.
[01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:55.560]  Okay.
[01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.560]  So watch that time limit.
[01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:01.560]  Okay.
[01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:12.560]  Okay. Be patient with me. I have about, it seems like about a few seconds left. So I'm having a little trouble with us. I'm really happy to tell you.
[01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:14.560]  No, it's fine.
[01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:20.560]  But what is the nature of your claim?
[01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:37.560]  Well, my claim was I pointed out that the company I was working for was doing illegal activities, namely they were going to basically pass a policy that said if you gave proof of vaccination, you didn't have to wear a mask.
[01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:44.560]  I informed them that that was illegal on multiple fronts that violated the Ohio revised code, HIPAA law, the Nuremberg code.
[01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:54.560]  And then four days later, I got fired. The human resources, I told them that I would not be complying with it. I, yeah, and I told them I would not be complying with it.
[01:23:55.560 --> 01:24:06.560]  I told them I considered myself trans vaccinated and much like they wouldn't expect the transgendered persons present their genitals to prove it, I would not be presenting proof of my private medical data to not wear a mask.
[01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:18.560]  Then the head of the HR department said he was happy that I co-opted that term. Okay, so they're trying to fire me for unprofessional conduct, which no, I, it wasn't unprofessional.
[01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:24.560]  Alls I did was make a, you know, slightly hyperbolic comparison, but I didn't target anybody with it.
[01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:31.560]  I said, I was illustrating the point of how it was discrimination and then four days after this happened, I was fired.
[01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:36.560]  So basically I got retaliated against for pointing out they were breaking the law on multiple levels. So.
[01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:39.560]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:42.560]  That goes to whistleblower.
[01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:44.560]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:46.560]  So have you filed suit yet?
[01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:54.560]  No, I haven't actually. I've been, I've kind of been, I was trying to find legal health counsel with this.
[01:24:54.560 --> 01:25:02.560]  I called up seven or eight attorneys across the entire state that are apparently all the best employment ones and they all basically turned me down.
[01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:14.560]  So it seems like I'm going to have to do this myself, which I don't have a problem with, but, you know, I'm kind of in the, in the area of kind of just like a general plan of attack is what I'm at right now.
[01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.560]  Okay, let me, let me offer some help.
[01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:32.560]  Send an email, Randy at ruleoflawradio.com and I will get the link to a telegram site I set up for this purpose.
[01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:35.560]  It's called Masque Law Society.
[01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:38.560]  I'll send you a link to that.
[01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:45.560]  We just have the kid in Massachusetts file a rebuttal to a rule 12 motion to dismiss.
[01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:57.560]  We've ripped the law to shreds, but we have a bunch of people here with the same issue that can help you get this adjudicated.
[01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:02.560]  So send an email, I will get you in contact with him.
[01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:07.560]  Just a minute, just take that URL here on the, on the air.
[01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:12.560]  That URL is.
[01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:31.560]  The URL is t.me slash mask underscore law underscore society t.me slash mask underscore law underscore society.
[01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:41.560]  Okay, I should be able to find that I'm in your, I'm in the one, I'm in the one telegram Alphonse has and I'm also in your law society one.
[01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.560]  So you should probably have links for that.
[01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:52.560]  Okay, then just, yeah, just look for the, I made a bunch of law society channels.
[01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:56.560]  I got criminal law society, mass law society.
[01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.560]  Just go to that one mass law society.
[01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:03.560]  We've got a bunch of people on there, a bunch of people putting together lawsuits.
[01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:14.560]  You'll have people that can answer most of your questions and people you can take things around with and get this thing moving.
[01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:16.560]  All right, that's great, man.
[01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:17.560]  I appreciate the help.
[01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:19.560]  You have a great night and God bless.
[01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:21.560]  Thank you.
[01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:28.560]  Okay, thank you Chris, but you want to take this, I'm too slow.
[01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:32.560]  Yeah, who are we going to grab next here?
[01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:37.560]  Let's see, we've got a 631.
[01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.560]  Is that the one you wanted to jump on to next?
[01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:47.560]  Yeah, anyone.
[01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.560]  Yeah, Ken in New York, yeah, he's pretty cool.
[01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.560]  All right, we are live with Ken.
[01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:56.560]  Good evening, Ken.
[01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:58.560]  Hi guys, how you doing?
[01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:06.560]  I think I have a solution that I use for my smart meter problem.
[01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:08.560]  Excuse me.
[01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:16.560]  What I did was we have PSE and G here, so they're around the country, I think they're in several places.
[01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:24.560]  And I told them that I didn't, they offered me a smart meter and I said, thank you, but I don't want one.
[01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:31.560]  And I said, well, if you don't take it now, you're going to have to take it next year because there was a bill pending in the Senate now.
[01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.560]  I did check it from time to time, but it didn't seem to be going anywhere.
[01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:40.560]  And I said, I don't care whether there's a bill anywhere about anything.
[01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.560]  I said, I'm going on record.
[01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:46.560]  You're not going to put one on my property.
[01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:48.560]  If you come on property, I'm going to sue you.
[01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:59.560]  And I told them that it doesn't matter to me what the law is because I'm retired.
[01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:05.560]  I'm retired, I have all the time in the world that is going to cost you plenty of money to have a lawyer meet me in court.
[01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:18.560]  And after that, I called the bumpers several times and they told me I was on, yes, we have you on record, Mr. X, that you don't want a smart meter.
[01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:30.560]  And if you don't want to be that combative about it, we can take a picture of the meter outside and just email it to them.
[01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:40.560]  So that cuts out the excuse about trying to save money or not sending the employee out or whatever.
[01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.560]  Or if you're concerned about somebody coming on your property.
[01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:47.560]  Exactly. That's a great idea.
[01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:49.560]  Send them a picture.
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[01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:04.560]  Thank you, Ken.
[01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:08.560]  We are back, Randy Shelton, Brett Fountain, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:10.560]  Ken, where were we?
[01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:12.560]  I was just...
[01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:14.560]  You need to go live.
[01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:19.560] ...handle the smart meter issue.
[01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:23.560]  And, well, that was the end of that.
[01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:25.560]  I mean, I just...
[01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:30.560]  If I talk to the power company,
[01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:32.560]  I just tell them, I say, fine, you know,
[01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.560]  I said, it's not about you.
[01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:36.560]  I said, you just, you know, you're an employee.
[01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.560]  I'm not threatening you.
[01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:42.560]  But I said, I'm sure this is being recorded for training purposes.
[01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:47.560]  And I hope, you know, it comes up in one of your training sessions.
[01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:50.560]  And I said, I don't care what the law is.
[01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:52.560]  You're not putting one on my property.
[01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:54.560]  You have egress, but you don't have, you know,
[01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:56.560]  some of the emergency.
[01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:59.560]  Meter works fine, no problems.
[01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:03.560]  And plus, you know, I'm willing to cooperate to the extent that
[01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:07.560]  I just take a picture each month or every other month
[01:35:07.560 --> 01:35:09.560]  if they give me an estimated bill
[01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.560]  and they compensate for it the month after once.
[01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.560]  There's no problem. You don't need it.
[01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:20.560]  I just don't want the thing around.
[01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.560]  And I've also run into that issue
[01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.560]  that the previous call was talking about,
[01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:28.560]  where I just went and I said,
[01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.560]  I self-identify as vaccinated.
[01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:33.560]  And I didn't go any further than that.
[01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:35.560]  I didn't get into the transgender thing or anything.
[01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:40.560]  I just smiled and I got a smile back.
[01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:42.560]  And that was the end of it.
[01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:46.560]  Didn't get fired, nothing.
[01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:48.560]  I guess everybody's different
[01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:51.560]  how they're going to respond to things, right?
[01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:55.560]  Yeah, up here, I don't know how it is down there,
[01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.560]  up in New York, people just don't seem to want to work.
[01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:01.560]  The only people I want to work are retired people.
[01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:05.560]  I think it's just because we have the work ethic
[01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:11.560]  built into us, you know, whatever it is.
[01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.560]  Yeah, we're having the same problem around here.
[01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:19.560]  It seems like anybody that they'd rather just sit home
[01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:22.560]  and let Biden pay for everything,
[01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.560]  they don't really want to go to the work.
[01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:30.560]  It's going to come to a crashing end eventually.
[01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.560]  The other thing I just want to touch on for a second
[01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:35.560]  as I was talking about somebody,
[01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.560]  a previous call about the service problem,
[01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:41.560]  isn't there a time-honored tradition
[01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:43.560]  where if somebody doesn't want to accept service,
[01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.560]  you can pull out a 10-penny nail and a hammer
[01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:51.560]  and put it into a nice door?
[01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:56.560]  You mean leave it on at the entrance of their house?
[01:36:56.560 --> 01:36:59.560]  Yeah, I think, I think, I don't know if that's just
[01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:02.560]  a sheriff's apartment.
[01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.560]  We can serve it like that, yeah.
[01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:06.560]  We've got a nice $1,000 door from Home Depot
[01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:15.560]  and put a nice nail through it with the service.
[01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.560]  What do you say, Randy?
[01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:21.560]  Is that a good way to serve somebody, just nail it to their door?
[01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:24.560]  Well, just show it to them, don't do nothing.
[01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:27.560]  No, you can't, yeah.
[01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:31.560]  You can't do, it depends on what the service is.
[01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:37.560]  The original petition must be served by either a constable
[01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:44.560]  or in Texas, anyone can do the original service
[01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:47.560]  other than the litigant.
[01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:50.560]  So I got Ken Magnus and every time I need somebody served,
[01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.560]  I get him and he acts like a courier and he serves for me.
[01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.560]  It's not that way in every state.
[01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:06.560]  Ken, have you read the Laws Concerning Service in New York?
[01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:10.560]  Well, I haven't studied them to any great length.
[01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:17.560]  I've experienced it once during my lawsuit with the hospital back in 2012
[01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:21.560]  where in the middle of the afternoon I got a knock on the door
[01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:26.560]  and there was this big smiling, muscled guy with a sheriff's uniform on.
[01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.560]  I mean, you don't see the sheriff very often on Long Island.
[01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:32.560]  They're only there to serve you with something
[01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:35.560]  or to throw all your stuff out in the street.
[01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:38.560]  That's all they do.
[01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:40.560]  I can't understand why.
[01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:42.560]  Well, they did something else actually.
[01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:50.560]  During the pandemic, Walmart that I go to had this big sign outside.
[01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:58.560]  It said due to state order and local order.
[01:38:58.560 --> 01:38:59.560]  They didn't say law.
[01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:00.560]  They said order.
[01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:02.560]  You must wear a mask while you're black.
[01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.560]  So I went in there and I had it pulled down below my nose.
[01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:08.560]  That was the safest thing to do.
[01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.560]  I'm breathing my own exhaust.
[01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:15.560]  There were some people who looked like they were being trained by a woman.
[01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.560]  A woman didn't look like a typical employee.
[01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:20.560]  I thought she might have been from the training company or something.
[01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:22.560]  It's just the impression that I got.
[01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:26.560]  She said, no, sir, you have to pull it over your nose.
[01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:28.560]  I said, no, I don't.
[01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:31.560]  She didn't know what to say because I guess nobody was challenging him.
[01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:33.560]  I was with my wife at the time.
[01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.560]  And I said, no, there's no such thing.
[01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:38.560]  And I said, it's very unhealthy.
[01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:39.560]  I'm not going to do it.
[01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:43.560]  And then they just looked at the employees looking at this woman.
[01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:45.560]  So nobody knew what to say.
[01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:49.560]  And then she just said, well, I'm not going to do anything.
[01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:53.560]  And I said, and I'm thinking to myself, what a weird response.
[01:39:53.560 --> 01:40:00.560]  You know, so it's a very puzzling kind of response.
[01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.560]  You know, they come up and they get tough with, they try to get tough with you.
[01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:06.560]  And then they just turn around and say they're not going to do anything.
[01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:09.560]  Unless they were recording it, maybe there was a reason they were, you know,
[01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.560]  trying to protect themselves.
[01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:15.560]  Yeah, that's pretty strange.
[01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:16.560]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:20.560]  It happened several times.
[01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:27.560]  Another time in Home Depot, I had a situation where there was this woman that was cruising around.
[01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:32.560]  She didn't seem to be doing anything, but she was like a couple of times,
[01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:35.560]  she came up to me and told me I had to pull it over my face.
[01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.560]  And I said, no, it's very, you know, I said the same thing.
[01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:38.560]  It's very unhealthy.
[01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:40.560]  I'm not going to do it.
[01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:47.560]  And so I found another guy was walking down the aisle and he had us down.
[01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:49.560]  And she didn't say a word to him.
[01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:51.560]  Well, it might have been because he was black.
[01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:52.560]  She didn't say anything to him.
[01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:54.560]  And then she gave me a dirty look.
[01:40:54.560 --> 01:41:02.560]  I was smiling right behind her with the shot because I was smiling at her.
[01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.560]  That's the kind of stuff I've been going through up here.
[01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:10.560]  The sheriff actually came out once and said that he told Cuomo,
[01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:18.560]  Governor Cuomo that he's not going to enforce any of his edicts.
[01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:22.560]  And Cuomo says, he doesn't know the law.
[01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:25.560]  And I'm thinking to myself, how stupid is none of it is the law?
[01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:27.560]  And the sheriff knew it.
[01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:29.560]  We actually have a good sheriff.
[01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:30.560]  He said he wouldn't enforce it.
[01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.560]  Even the cops aren't enforcing any of this stuff.
[01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:37.560]  They don't want to get involved with it.
[01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:39.560]  Smart people.
[01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:41.560]  Yeah, that's good.
[01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:44.560]  I guess when you make 100,000 bucks a year as a cop,
[01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:51.560]  you don't want to put anything in danger.
[01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:55.560]  Well, Ken, is there anything else on your mind for this evening?
[01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:58.560]  Have a nice, good night.
[01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:02.560]  Okay, well, thanks for calling.
[01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:06.560]  All right, we're going to go to Danny in Tennessee.
[01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.560]  Good evening, Danny.
[01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:12.560]  Hey, how you out tonight?
[01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:14.560]  I've been waiting so long.
[01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:17.560]  I may get cut off in a couple of minutes here.
[01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:19.560]  Oh, no.
[01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:23.560]  Yeah, because the phone system I got here,
[01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.560]  it's right at 158 or so it showed.
[01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:33.560]  But, yeah, I got some things to go on with some courts around here
[01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:36.560]  and how, you know, they just don't follow,
[01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:38.560]  they got good procedures set up.
[01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.560]  They just don't follow them.
[01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:43.560]  So they're not convenient to them or something.
[01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:48.560]  But, oh yeah, one thing I want to bring up,
[01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:51.560]  the guy that called last night about this federal case
[01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:53.560]  that he was trying to put together,
[01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:56.560]  he's talking about doing service,
[01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.560]  was that the same that called in the night while ago?
[01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:01.560]  Yes, he called in.
[01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:03.560]  Yeah, he had a hearing today.
[01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:07.560]  He was calling, I guess, before and after his hearing.
[01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:09.560]  Okay, well, one I remember last night,
[01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:11.560]  he's talking about trying to get service done.
[01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:14.560]  And at the time, the federal courts,
[01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:19.560]  they prefer you to try to get the waiver of service,
[01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:21.560]  formal service.
[01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:23.560]  You send it to them just like a regular letter.
[01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:25.560]  Oh, that's right.
[01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:26.560]  Yeah.
[01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:27.560]  I forgot about that waiver of service.
[01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:28.560]  I saw that, yeah.
[01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:30.560]  When you got it set up,
[01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.560]  they could, you know, somebody dodged it.
[01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:40.560]  Danny, are you there? Did we lose you?
[01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:44.560]  Well, it looks like we might have lost Danny there.
[01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:47.560]  He was saying something about his phone
[01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:49.560]  might have been about to cut off.
[01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:51.560]  I guess we did.
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[01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:43.560]  Randy Kelton.
[01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:44.560]  I'm Brett Fountain.
[01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:47.560]  And we're talking with Danny in Tennessee.
[01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:50.560]  And Danny, I'm glad we got you back.
[01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:52.560]  Looked like you got disconnected just in time
[01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:54.560]  for the sponsors.
[01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:55.560]  You got your back.
[01:46:55.560 --> 01:46:56.560]  Pretty well done.
[01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:01.560]  You were talking about using a waiver of service.
[01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:04.560]  Now, Randy, you were saying that you didn't think
[01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:08.560]  that would give much traction?
[01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:14.560]  Yeah, I can't imagine anybody doing that.
[01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:16.560]  Yeah, if you're going to sue me,
[01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:18.560]  you're going to have to work for it.
[01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:20.560]  You're going to have to get me served.
[01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:23.560]  But you can always try that.
[01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:27.560]  Well, you can also send the rule in there where it says
[01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:29.560]  that it's not government.
[01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:33.560]  I wouldn't send the rule along with government.
[01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:36.560]  But the federal courts kind of favor
[01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:42.560]  that sort of wasting resources to do the service.
[01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:44.560]  Just be decent about it.
[01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:47.560]  And let's go.
[01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.560]  And I helped the guy with it.
[01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:52.560]  You can always.
[01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:54.560]  I helped the guy with some things.
[01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:55.560]  Wait a minute.
[01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:57.560]  Yeah.
[01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:00.560]  I'm sorry, Danny.
[01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:01.560]  I've got it.
[01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:05.560]  It looks like I've got about a three or four second lag.
[01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:08.560]  So you wait to see if I'm going to say anything.
[01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:10.560]  And about the time you get to the lag period,
[01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:12.560]  then you speak and we both step on each other.
[01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:15.560]  So I apologize for that.
[01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:17.560]  I'm having some issues.
[01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:19.560]  I'm going to shut up and let Brett handle this
[01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:24.560]  because this is too disruptive.
[01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:28.560]  All right.
[01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:32.560]  Well, you were talking about letting them just serve.
[01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:33.560]  Be decent about it.
[01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:35.560]  And let's just go.
[01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:39.560]  You know, that's kind of the way it seemed like the court has the
[01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:41.560]  rules set up.
[01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:44.560]  It's like our preference.
[01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:48.560]  And I think it kind of looked down on you not doing it that way
[01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:49.560]  if you can.
[01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:51.560]  And if you're doing, you know,
[01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:53.560]  some government body here almost for sure,
[01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:57.560]  it'll start on the wrong side of the court.
[01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.560]  If it's somebody ordinary, you know,
[01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:05.560]  you might send a copy of that along so they can read it
[01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:08.560]  and then decide.
[01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:10.560]  You know what that is?
[01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:12.560]  Where would you find that?
[01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:14.560]  That rule.
[01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:17.560]  It was kind of early on to do with, I guess,
[01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:23.560]  was serving the complaint to the defendant.
[01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:33.560]  I don't remember exactly, but I just ran up here recently.
[01:49:33.560 --> 01:49:34.560]  Well, cool.
[01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:35.560]  I'll look that up.
[01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:40.560]  I'm just about to need to serve, I think, 21 defendants.
[01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:43.560]  So that'll be handy.
[01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:45.560]  I can avoid all that cost.
[01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:47.560]  Okay.
[01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:53.560]  When I filed mine, I asked the court for leave to serve the
[01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:58.560]  individuals at their place of business because they're all
[01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:02.560]  public officials.
[01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:07.560]  So you might be able to do one service and reach them all.
[01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:14.560]  I'm looking up waiver of service.
[01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:16.560]  Okay.
[01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.560]  Well, Danny, what else is on your mind this evening?
[01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:24.560]  Well, I had to come up with another opportunity to help
[01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:30.560]  correct, you know, governmental cooperation.
[01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:35.560]  I got stopped the other day and then taken away,
[01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:39.560]  but it let me clogged.
[01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:44.560]  I had to come get my car because I wasn't able to get off of
[01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:46.560]  the road beforehand.
[01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:51.560]  And so, you know, when I got there first and he was talking
[01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:55.560]  with the guy back there, and I couldn't hear it except for
[01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:56.560]  one thing.
[01:50:56.560 --> 01:50:59.560]  He kind of said something about how he didn't hold a grudge.
[01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:02.560]  And I was wondering, well, why was he talking about a grudge
[01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:06.560]  because he had to run in with him once before.
[01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:14.560]  And so I asked this guy about what it was.
[01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:17.560]  He's talking about how, you know, he'd come to know me.
[01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:22.560]  And the only thing I did wrong was let my face be seen through
[01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.560]  the glass as he was passing by that day.
[01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:28.560]  We just happened to be going opposite directions and he was
[01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.560]  training another one.
[01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:33.560]  So he wasn't controlling the car.
[01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:36.560]  He was around more.
[01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:41.560]  He happened to see me there, say, you turn and pull me over.
[01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:47.560]  But, you know, the guy that was talking with me said that,
[01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:52.560]  you know, he had some familiarity with me and everything.
[01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:55.560]  And that was the reason, but he didn't hold a grudge.
[01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:57.560]  And that was a little strange.
[01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:01.560]  But then the other guy that came up and went before they were
[01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:04.560]  leaving, I was getting them and telling them to go get me a
[01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:05.560]  bondsman.
[01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:09.560]  And, you know, the bondsman never showed up.
[01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:12.560]  And I wasn't asking about that.
[01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:16.560]  He was kind of remembering something from the past where
[01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:19.560]  they kind of rotated bondsman into jail, you know,
[01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:21.560]  and it kind of took turns.
[01:52:21.560 --> 01:52:25.560]  And that's sort of not doing like that at all now.
[01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:30.560]  But he said he went back here and talked to cop about,
[01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:32.560]  you know, them doing that and everything.
[01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.560]  And he's telling them, well, he didn't know.
[01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:36.560]  He asked about it.
[01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:38.560]  They got in there or something.
[01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:40.560]  Well, he didn't.
[01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:47.560]  And so I think it was a bit of a grudge because I sort of embarrassed
[01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.560]  him on the witness stand on two different occasions with what
[01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:55.560]  sounds like a simple question that he just couldn't answer.
[01:52:55.560 --> 01:53:00.560]  And I think it was.
[01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:04.560]  And then, you know, he was kind of misdirecting the guys about
[01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:09.560]  the bondsman that let me stay in jail over in 1982.
[01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:12.560]  So I'm going to bring that up.
[01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:17.560]  I've had a hearing and so getting an attorney assigned.
[01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:19.560]  I haven't been able to meet with him yet.
[01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:25.560]  I'm going to bring that idea up along with some other things that,
[01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:29.560]  you know, to spend generally routinely done wrong.
[01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:37.560]  And so turn this back around on him some and see if I can get the
[01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:42.560]  lawyer to ask him those questions, too.
[01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:46.560]  He still hasn't gone to study to find out how he should answer
[01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:49.560]  the question, so I'm believing so.
[01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:51.560]  Uh-oh.
[01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:54.560]  Yeah, it does seem like embarrassing questions on the witness stand.
[01:53:54.560 --> 01:53:58.560]  They have a way to stick it with them.
[01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:01.560]  Yeah.
[01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:03.560]  And oh, yeah.
[01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:07.560]  Well, one thing I need, and I talked to Randy some time before,
[01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:12.560]  the, you know, some of the federal forms for what I'm working on
[01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:15.560]  still like to get, you know, a couple of those for a couple
[01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:20.560]  of reasons, federal injunction and like declaratory judgment.
[01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:27.560]  And a few things, you know, if you were to have those to be able
[01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:30.560]  to send them or somehow we could get something done before.
[01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:33.560]  I'm going to like to get these put together here pretty soon.
[01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:36.560]  Keep getting ideas and doing more research,
[01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:42.560]  but I'm going to have to stop and get it out there pretty soon.
[01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:47.560]  Yeah, have you been out there on uscourts.gov?
[01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:52.560]  We've got some plenty of forms for a lot of things there.
[01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:59.560]  Yeah, I did get some of their forms.
[01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:06.560]  Yeah, they've got some declaratory stuff there.
[01:55:06.560 --> 01:55:13.560]  I have a copy of O'Connor's forms from 2008,
[01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:18.560]  but it's been a while since I've dug them out of my archives.
[01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:20.560]  There'll be a little bit to find them,
[01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:27.560]  but in one set I have renamed them all because O'Connor's forms
[01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:33.560]  just has numbers numbering the forms and there's probably a thousand of them.
[01:55:33.560 --> 01:55:38.560]  But I have one, I believe, or I have named the forms.
[01:55:38.560 --> 01:55:41.560]  I just haven't had time to go in and dig them out.
[01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:43.560]  I will try to do that.
[01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.560]  Danny, best if you send me an email, another email asking me for it.
[01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:50.560]  I know you've emailed me before, but they get buried real fast.
[01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:56.560]  And I've been so swamped, remind me.
[01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:59.560]  And if no need to be patient with me,
[01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:02.560]  you can tell me to jump off my butt and get this done.
[01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:09.560]  So just remind me so I'll go in and dig them out of the archives.
[01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:11.560]  Yeah, something else that I brought up one time,
[01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:17.560]  y'all seem to think it wasn't something to do of naming like a corporate body
[01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:20.560]  as a criminal defendant.
[01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:23.560]  But I found here in the court rules,
[01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:27.560]  a reference to that kind of thing, not directly,
[01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:33.560]  but it has this one rule I'll send it to you.
[01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.560]  It's about the presence of a defendant.
[01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:38.560]  And there's, the park says,
[01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:40.560]  presence not required.
[01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:44.560]  A defendant need not be present in the following circumstances.
[01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.560]  One, organizational defendant.
[01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:49.560]  The defendant is a corporation,
[01:56:49.560 --> 01:56:51.560]  limited liability corporation,
[01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:53.560]  or limited liability partnership,
[01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:56.560]  which is represented by counsel.
[01:56:56.560 --> 01:57:00.560]  So apparently they can be criminal defendants.
[01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:10.560]  Because this is criminal court rules.
[01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:11.560]  What about that?
[01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:18.560]  I've never really thought that you could put a fiction as the actor,
[01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:21.560]  the criminal actor.
[01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:24.560]  Well, my idea on it was that like municipality,
[01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:27.560]  you don't know who actually knows.
[01:57:27.560 --> 01:57:29.560]  They kind of manipulate these people.
[01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:31.560]  They've got the police out there doing this,
[01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:33.560]  and some of the clerks over here doing that,
[01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:35.560]  and they're not on the front line anywhere.
[01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:37.560]  And you can't have them do it.
[01:57:37.560 --> 01:57:42.560]  The body as a whole is the one doing it.
[01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:46.560]  I just go after the one who did it,
[01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:48.560]  and the highest official,
[01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:50.560]  whoever's the elected or appointed official,
[01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:53.560]  department head, somebody that's in charge,
[01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:55.560]  call them, respond to you at superior,
[01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:59.560]  and let them say, hey, the buck stops there.
[01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:01.560]  Yeah.
[01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.560]  But yeah, that's very interesting.
[01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:09.560]  You can charge a fiction with a crime.
[01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:11.560]  Yeah.
[01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:14.560]  How about that?
[01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:17.560]  Okay, well, I'm shooting my career little music coming up,
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.560]  and I'm pretty well done here now, I think.
[01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:22.560]  Well, thanks for sharing that.
[01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:24.560]  Thanks for being so patient.
[01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:26.560]  To wait online, on the call board,
[01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:29.560]  we had a full board there for a while,
[01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:32.560]  and I appreciate you sticking it out.
[01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:34.560]  Okay, thanks.
[01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:36.560]  All right.
[01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:38.560]  Goodbye.
[01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:40.560]  Bye-bye.
[01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:45.560]  All right, let's see here.
[01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:49.560]  Yep, I think, nope, that's the last car.
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