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[00:46.400 --> 00:52.680]  Today in history, the year 1916, the preparedness day bombing, a time suitcase bomb was detonated
[00:52.680 --> 00:58.000]  on Market Street in San Francisco during the World War I preparedness day parade, killing
[00:58.000 --> 01:05.000]  10 and injuring 40 today in history.
[01:05.000 --> 01:10.040]  And recent news, since Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 1325 legalizing Hempon attacks
[01:10.040 --> 01:14.600]  his law back in June, county prosecutors around the state including Houston, Austin, and San
[01:14.600 --> 01:19.080]  Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession charges and even refusing to file new ones
[01:19.080 --> 01:23.120]  since they are stipulating that they do not have the time or the laboratory equipment to
[01:23.120 --> 01:25.040]  test the herb for THC.
[01:25.040 --> 01:28.680]  Margaret Moore, the Travis County District Attorney announced earlier this month that
[01:28.680 --> 01:33.320]  she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of marijuana cases because of the
[01:33.320 --> 01:34.320]  law.
[01:34.320 --> 01:37.840]  Mr. Abbott and other state officials, including the Attorney General stipulated in a letter
[01:37.840 --> 01:42.360]  to county district attorneys back on Thursday that marijuana has not been decriminalized
[01:42.360 --> 01:48.520]  in Texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how HB 1325 works, as
[01:48.520 --> 01:54.760]  well as other cities too, like the District Attorney in El Paso, Cayma Esparza, a Democrat
[01:54.760 --> 01:59.240]  who also stated earlier this month that the law, quote, will not have an effect on the
[01:59.240 --> 02:01.960]  prosecution of marijuana cases in El Paso.
[02:01.960 --> 02:07.040]  However, the issue was succinctly summarized by Mr. Brandon Ball, an assistant public defender
[02:07.040 --> 02:11.000]  in Harris County who stated that, quote, the law is constantly changing on what makes
[02:11.000 --> 02:13.760]  something illegal based on its chemical makeup.
[02:13.760 --> 02:17.640]  It's important that if someone is charged with something, the test matches what they're
[02:17.640 --> 02:22.840]  charged with.
[02:22.840 --> 02:27.680]  A paper by Tulane University identified a five and a half inch American pocket shark.
[02:27.680 --> 02:32.600]  As the first of its kind in the Gulf of Mexico, the specimen being only the second pocket
[02:32.600 --> 02:38.240]  shark ever captured or recorded with the other one being found way back in 1979 in the East
[02:38.240 --> 02:39.720]  Pacific Ocean.
[02:39.720 --> 02:44.000]  According to the university paper, the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near
[02:44.000 --> 02:50.280]  its front fins for the purpose it is hypothesized to lure and prey who may be drawn into the
[02:50.280 --> 03:17.400]  field.
[03:17.400 --> 03:26.840]  I received my remedy today, came in a box just like the faith I accepted it for value
[03:26.840 --> 03:36.680]  right away, not too late or not later, we are originators and the pathways seem to get
[03:36.680 --> 03:44.680]  straighter every day, and I can take anything that belongs to me as good or too good to
[03:44.680 --> 03:55.320]  you, but I was good for the gender, don't know what to do.
[03:55.320 --> 04:03.880]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rulo Law Radio on this, the 16th day, Friday, the 16th day of
[04:03.880 --> 04:16.680]  August 2019, and we have special guests on, Damon Jones and Chris Whelan, and over the
[04:16.680 --> 04:21.720]  break we were talking about politics, and I know everybody here on the, I'm sorry I called
[04:21.720 --> 04:28.840]  you Chris Whelan, Casey Whelan, we were talking about politics, and on the show I tell everybody
[04:28.840 --> 04:32.360]  that you never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side,
[04:33.960 --> 04:41.480]  you win your case if you have the politics on your side, and some wondered, we look at the
[04:41.480 --> 04:47.400]  police and we think we know what's going on with the police, but we really don't, and we fully
[04:47.400 --> 04:57.320]  understand that everything is political, so Damon, what is politics as it goes to policemen?
[04:57.320 --> 05:08.440]  How does it really work? Well, let me say this, although there have had police unions of various
[05:08.440 --> 05:16.120]  types, but usually in very large metropolitan police agencies like the Dallas Police, Los Angeles,
[05:16.120 --> 05:25.880]  Miami, and they were reasonable in their request, you know, such as step increases,
[05:25.880 --> 05:32.040]  if you're there a certain number of years, you get cost of living in a merry. Okay, that's fine,
[05:32.040 --> 05:38.280]  you get a certain number of days off. Well, police, the police slogan when I started is,
[05:38.280 --> 05:47.160]  we don't write the laws, we just enforce them. Well, in the 1990s, politics being what it was,
[05:47.160 --> 05:55.480]  and a lot of politicians really play in fast and loose, then these unions decided, wait a minute,
[05:55.480 --> 06:02.680]  we can get lobbyists and we can write the laws to benefit the police, not the public, the police.
[06:03.560 --> 06:12.280]  So the tax dollars people was paying in, cities was paying unions to administer the contracts,
[06:12.280 --> 06:19.240]  and then they were using that taxpayer dollar that they were paid for to go out and get lobbyists
[06:19.240 --> 06:27.000]  to affect laws, and then they would get those same police to say, we endorse this law. Well,
[06:27.000 --> 06:36.280]  of course, you helped write it benefiting you. Now, politics plays a very strange and unusual role
[06:36.280 --> 06:46.760]  in law enforcement, it has no place. I have been in my office working on statistics or reports
[06:46.760 --> 06:54.360]  or a policy or what have you, and the mayor has come in and said, well, we got complaints on this
[06:54.360 --> 07:01.480]  that are the next thing. Well, are these valid complaints or are they just people's emotions?
[07:01.480 --> 07:07.720]  What are we talking about? Well, this is going to affect me and my office,
[07:08.440 --> 07:15.320]  so there's the politics. What do you mean? Well, if I don't take care of these problems,
[07:15.320 --> 07:22.200]  I'm going to be out of office, so I want you to fix it. Well, you're asking me to do things that
[07:22.200 --> 07:30.120]  I'm not delegated to do under the Constitution of the state. I'm not authorized by the legislature.
[07:30.120 --> 07:36.680]  Well, there's this law that says this. Yes, sir, but that's repugnant to the Constitution. The
[07:36.680 --> 07:41.960]  Supreme Court said if it's repugnant to the Constitution, it's as though it doesn't exist.
[07:43.240 --> 07:48.520]  So, I would refer them to Shuttlesworth versus Birmingham just to give them an idea,
[07:48.520 --> 07:54.440]  and I said, I can give you 100 more cases. Well, if you want to stay around here, you need to fix
[07:54.440 --> 08:02.200]  this. Or this officer don't have the right attitude, and we need to go ahead and get him on his way.
[08:03.080 --> 08:09.800]  Or this is Betsy's second cousin, and he got through the academy, and we need to bring him on.
[08:10.440 --> 08:18.280]  Well, he talked to me, but he's not the right caliber of person for this job. He needs to be
[08:18.280 --> 08:25.400]  a computer technician. He's geeky. You know, he talks in a lot of different nomenclatures that
[08:25.400 --> 08:29.160]  he ain't going to get along with other officers, and he ain't going to get along with the public.
[08:30.680 --> 08:38.040]  Or counsel people coming to see me and say, hey, chief, we're thinking about this,
[08:38.040 --> 08:44.200]  that or the next thing. Well, I can do this, but not that. And this is how they get in office.
[08:44.200 --> 08:50.680]  This is how they stay in office. And they would say, well, the legislature's talking about this,
[08:50.680 --> 08:56.040]  and they sent out questionnaires about these laws. What do you think? I said, well, these laws
[08:56.040 --> 09:04.360]  benefit me and all police officers, some kind of first responders, but it sounds like it's getting
[09:04.360 --> 09:11.480]  on the cartilage of the people's rights. And I'm not going to participate in it, because I'm not
[09:11.480 --> 09:18.040]  going to quote uphold the law that I know on its prima facie of evidence is a violation of the
[09:18.040 --> 09:24.920]  Constitution. I'm not going to do it. I sworn out. I'm not going to do it. Well, you need to learn
[09:24.920 --> 09:30.840]  how to play or you're going to have to move on. And in fact, when I was a chief of police,
[09:31.960 --> 09:35.880]  there's certain things I can't say because of a non-disclosure agreement
[09:35.880 --> 09:43.160]  in the advice of my attorney. But I was at a town. I had done an investigation
[09:43.800 --> 09:54.040]  on another department head dealing with pedophilia and working on the city plot doing his private
[09:54.040 --> 10:01.720]  business. I rested him on various charges, and I had over 500 more felony charges to file,
[10:01.720 --> 10:08.120]  child pornography, et cetera. Well, they kept trying to get me at an open city meeting
[10:08.760 --> 10:14.680]  to discuss my investigation. I said, one, that compromises the integrity of the investigation.
[10:15.640 --> 10:21.320]  I cannot and will not discuss that with you. Well, if you're not going to do that,
[10:21.320 --> 10:28.360]  then we'll file you for insubordination. And their attorney was at least smart enough to say,
[10:28.360 --> 10:34.840]  well, you can fire him for no reason at all. He said, well, but you can't fire him for not
[10:34.840 --> 10:40.440]  divulging investigation. That's a lawsuit or words of that effect. I know that they can
[10:40.440 --> 10:47.560]  comprehend. I still got all the video tapes of this. It's a video tape. There's news media there.
[10:47.560 --> 10:54.920]  I can't believe they actually said it. So because I wouldn't play their game and say what all facts
[10:54.920 --> 11:00.120]  I have and what I'm investigating, which tells them what to hide or destroy or do,
[11:00.920 --> 11:07.320]  which is a violation of the law, then I find out that one of the reasons this is the chairman of
[11:07.320 --> 11:13.400]  the board for the council, he's involved in this stuff and he's been involved for years.
[11:13.400 --> 11:25.960]  So these are politics. So I am told at some point that my house by a council member says,
[11:25.960 --> 11:34.040]  I'm going to fire bomb your house. I said, did he really just say that out loud? I said,
[11:34.040 --> 11:39.080]  well, here's the deal. If you strike a match and I can see you from my house and you strike
[11:39.080 --> 11:45.880]  a match up the road, you're dead. I said, you've already threatened my life and that of my family.
[11:45.880 --> 11:49.720]  So I don't care what happens after that, but you ain't going to fire bomb my house.
[11:50.600 --> 11:57.800]  The FBI and the executive division of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement came to my house.
[11:58.360 --> 12:04.600]  They put a lot of apparatus in my house. They checked my phone lines, found that where they
[12:04.600 --> 12:12.680]  had been put and tampered with. They had recording devices all over the city. They disguised themselves
[12:12.680 --> 12:21.560]  as different people. It was so hard and then they voted to fire me and they did fire me.
[12:22.360 --> 12:31.960]  So I filed a lawsuit against them and all I can say is in the end, I was reinstated,
[12:31.960 --> 12:41.720]  backpaid all my benefits and then I could stay on or I could retire. Based on the advice of
[12:41.720 --> 12:49.080]  my attorney that I might accidentally on purpose get killed and other bad things might happen,
[12:49.080 --> 12:55.720]  then I just retired my position at my rank and he says, turn in this paperwork and I did and
[12:55.720 --> 13:06.840]  they accepted it. So that's how I come to be retired from there and politics is so strong
[13:06.840 --> 13:16.360]  that the police through their union are now writing the laws. I have had judges call me in
[13:16.360 --> 13:23.720]  their office, what they call in camera and say, how can we make this go away? What do you mean?
[13:23.720 --> 13:29.640]  Well, this is so and so and they tell me various things and we really need this to go away.
[13:30.200 --> 13:36.600]  You need it to go away? I mean, I don't have a dog in the fat. I just went out and enforced
[13:36.600 --> 13:44.760]  the law properly and equitably and you want it to go away. I don't know what to tell you.
[13:44.760 --> 13:53.320]  Well, I think the state is going to offer a plea bargain and you need to not interfere in that.
[13:55.400 --> 14:01.240]  Okay, well, I'll take that as a judicial order. What? What? I said, I'll take that as a judicial
[14:01.240 --> 14:06.120]  order. No, I'm just talking to you. Well, are you a man talking to me or are you a judicial
[14:06.120 --> 14:11.000]  official talking to me? If you're a man talking to me, I'm going to walk out the door. If you're
[14:11.000 --> 14:17.800]  a judicial official giving me judicial orders, I'm going to do what you say because I'm afraid
[14:17.800 --> 14:27.000]  you'll lock me up in jail. And so they made some things go away. That's politics. So here's what I
[14:27.000 --> 14:35.800]  began to learn really quick and really fast. My dad said to me, son, if you want to survive
[14:35.800 --> 14:42.040]  and you want to thrive and you want to help the most people build relationships,
[14:43.560 --> 14:51.560]  okay, there was a lady in Dallas who regularly bought brownies and cakes to the substation.
[14:52.280 --> 14:58.600]  Okay, she did a lot of nice things. She was a nice lady. She just wanted to help people
[14:58.600 --> 15:05.640]  and she left her policeman. Well, if she needed a policeman, guess who got first call,
[15:06.200 --> 15:11.320]  first service, her, her son or grandson, I can't remember, gotten a little bit of trouble. Guess
[15:11.320 --> 15:20.440]  who got helped out? The lady that built a relationship with her local police. So relationships
[15:20.440 --> 15:28.120]  are key. So I say, don't wait till you get arrested. Don't wait for something bad happens.
[15:28.120 --> 15:32.840]  Go introduce yourself to the sheriff, the constable, city marshal, the chief of police. Go
[15:32.840 --> 15:38.840]  introduce yourself, find out their hobbies, find out what they like, don't like, you know,
[15:39.400 --> 15:46.280]  build some sort of relationship with them. So the first encounter you have with them
[15:46.280 --> 15:53.320]  with them is not negative. It's positive. And then if you have a problem with an officer,
[15:53.320 --> 15:59.720]  you're able to go to the sheriff, the constable, marshal, chief of police and say, hey, I had a
[15:59.720 --> 16:05.480]  really crazy encounter with one of your officers. Yeah, well, what's that? And you talk to them.
[16:05.480 --> 16:08.920]  Well, let me talk to him or her about that and see what we can do
[16:08.920 --> 16:15.400]  because they got to know you beforehand. That's one of my pieces of advice.
[16:16.520 --> 16:23.640]  Well, in what I do, I have found that to be very powerful, especially if you're going to take them
[16:23.640 --> 16:32.600]  on. Because if you treat them with dignity and respect while you're beating them up, then
[16:32.600 --> 16:42.600]  they have a much harder time demonizing you. And hang on, about to go to break. Randy Kelton,
[16:42.600 --> 17:03.960]  Rule of Law Radio, our call in number 5126461984. We'll be right back.
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[19:12.600 --> 19:19.080]  Well, don't let nothing get to you. Only the father can deliver you. So don't let bad mind people
[19:19.080 --> 19:31.160]  hurt you until they get behind you. You know what I mean? My friend. Okay, we are back. Wendy
[19:31.160 --> 19:39.160]  Kelton, rule of law radio. And we're going to go to Casey. And he's going to talk about kind of the
[19:39.160 --> 19:48.600]  the idea behind auditing and what his purpose is and what it can do for the communication.
[19:49.560 --> 19:57.560]  Sure. So ultimately, it's education. But you know, I'd like to discuss some of the benefits or
[19:57.560 --> 20:04.680]  why we do this. So for instance, I'll use one of the examples I had. I actually had four other
[20:04.680 --> 20:11.400]  people go with me to our local federal courthouse here in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. And I walked in
[20:11.400 --> 20:17.640]  first with my camera. And I had the camera down, actually. And I'm pretty sure this guy is a U.S.
[20:17.640 --> 20:24.840]  Marshal. A long story short, he ended up grabbing my camera not once, but two times. And the other
[20:24.840 --> 20:32.920]  auditors came in behind me and they filmed some of it. The Marshals lost their minds. We went
[20:32.920 --> 20:39.400]  outside. They didn't think we could film inside of the courthouse when, after the fact, we found
[20:39.400 --> 20:43.800]  out, yes, there's actually court orders that explicitly say that filming is allowed in the
[20:43.800 --> 20:50.840]  courthouse. So when you find an issue like that, you really want to hammer on it and make it a big
[20:50.840 --> 20:54.760]  deal. So when people learn about what you do in the community, that's the thing. You want to get
[20:54.760 --> 21:03.080]  the people behind you. So you don't want to make yourself look bad. You want to always be positive.
[21:03.080 --> 21:12.600]  And just keep educating, keep educating. And so anyways, getting kind of long here. But I went
[21:12.600 --> 21:19.080]  back myself after this encounter, after my camera was grabbed a couple of times, and completely
[21:19.080 --> 21:23.160]  different tune. The court order was on the outside of the window or on the inside of the window where
[21:23.160 --> 21:28.920]  you can see it. And the guards were just completely different demeanor. I went on each of the three
[21:28.920 --> 21:36.040]  floors. I filmed it. It's a beautiful building. I'd never been there before. And this does work.
[21:36.040 --> 21:42.040]  I really suggest people look into this more if they're new to the subject. But I'd like to kind
[21:42.040 --> 21:47.880]  of segue a little bit to Chief Jones here a little bit. We both kind of got into the movement
[21:47.880 --> 21:55.800]  when it really, it was a bit new. Now, after a couple years of this, it's just exploded. It's
[21:55.800 --> 22:01.000]  everywhere. There's so many videos. I can't keep up with the auditing community anymore, which is a
[22:01.000 --> 22:06.280]  positive thing. So more people are doing it. And when we have like a bad apple or something,
[22:06.280 --> 22:12.040]  you know, doing an audit or, you know, they don't maybe know how to handle the situation,
[22:12.040 --> 22:16.520]  the community will rally behind that person generally and, you know, they'll call them out.
[22:16.520 --> 22:19.480]  And the people will generally try to help them. And so it's a very
[22:20.680 --> 22:25.960]  fostering community. And it's, again, a beautiful thing. But Chief Jones,
[22:25.960 --> 22:30.360]  why don't you talk about News Now Houston and David, since you know him personally?
[22:31.240 --> 22:39.640]  Oh, yes. His enemies like to call him Earl because that's part of his name. I'm just throwing that
[22:39.640 --> 22:47.400]  out there. Us that says friends, which are the vast majority of people, call him David. Now, his
[22:47.400 --> 22:56.120]  YouTube channel is News Now Houston. And he's got a family member that runs News Now community
[22:56.680 --> 23:04.760]  that he posts things on. Actually, he told me in the beginning, well, we actually got introduced
[23:04.760 --> 23:11.240]  through some mutual friends probably three years ago. I'm not sure exactly, but somewhere in that.
[23:11.240 --> 23:19.880]  And at that time, you could watch a handful of auditors or trying to become auditors. And David
[23:19.880 --> 23:29.000]  was doing the deal. And he was so peaceful, so calm, so collective, so thought provoking ideas
[23:29.000 --> 23:35.000]  like to say, where's your car? How did you get here? He said, well, I parachuted him. You know,
[23:35.640 --> 23:43.960]  it was humor to disfuge the situation because police were known to take key fobs and keep
[23:43.960 --> 23:50.040]  hitting them until they saw the lights or buzzer go off and say, there's their car. And then they
[23:50.040 --> 23:54.760]  go run their tags to get their name, look for wants and warrants and start digging in their criminal
[23:54.760 --> 24:00.920]  history and all that to see if there was something they could jack them up on. Well, he took Uber.
[24:02.120 --> 24:08.120]  He said, I suggest that sometimes you'd have a friend or another auditor drop him off.
[24:09.640 --> 24:15.160]  Sometimes he parks in private parking and walks to half a mile to where he was going.
[24:15.160 --> 24:25.160]  And so David, David said to me, you want to know why I do it? Because I'd ask that question. I
[24:25.160 --> 24:32.840]  said, yes, sir. He said the same reason most people do it. They were done wrong by police.
[24:33.560 --> 24:37.080]  And then it went through the court system and they were done wrong there.
[24:37.080 --> 24:46.520]  He said, so I thought if I would go out and be nice and polite and give police and public
[24:46.520 --> 24:53.720]  officials an opportunity to do the right thing repeatedly, and even when they mess up, I would
[24:53.720 --> 25:02.600]  set them an exit to let them back up, exit out, re-enter and start the dialogue new. And he said
[25:02.600 --> 25:08.760]  people would see, hey, this guy's being nice and polite. He knows the law. He had worked in
[25:08.760 --> 25:15.160]  federal law enforcement. He had worked for TVs and radio stations in the past and did a lot of new
[25:15.160 --> 25:22.680]  stories. So he was comical and collective. So his audience built very, very fast. And he said,
[25:22.680 --> 25:30.840]  the reason I did it is I basically was outing bad cops because the commanders were doing nothing.
[25:30.840 --> 25:38.040]  And when I started, it was like the thin blue line gathered around me to create problems for me.
[25:39.320 --> 25:45.960]  He said almost everybody that he knew that it was an activist, a First Amendment auditor,
[25:45.960 --> 25:52.680]  Second Amendment auditor, constitutional auditor, that they had personally been arrested
[25:53.320 --> 25:58.760]  or their children or their parents were very close to them and they saw the tragedy in it.
[25:58.760 --> 26:06.440]  So that sparked activism in them to record police in the line of duty, whatever they're doing.
[26:06.440 --> 26:11.880]  And they said, they say, see something, say something. They said, if you see something,
[26:11.880 --> 26:20.440]  record something. Share it with the world. Thought the video don't lie. Well, David recently exposed
[26:20.440 --> 26:28.520]  the murders of the totals that looks premeditated. The evidence points to premeditation that the
[26:28.520 --> 26:35.320]  police went in there specifically to kill those people. And one of the supervisors, I think he's
[26:35.320 --> 26:45.160]  a surgeon. I can't remember precisely, but he had wrote up numerous no-knock warrants so many times.
[26:45.880 --> 26:51.160]  And there were supposed to be guns there. And there wasn't guns many times. And what was
[26:51.160 --> 26:57.960]  supposed to be there. So they saw a huge pattern of this guy over and over. And the people was in
[26:57.960 --> 27:04.680]  the house begging after they'd been shot for help. And the police was standing outside and
[27:04.680 --> 27:10.520]  wouldn't let the ambulance go in there to try and save these people. So they just wanted them to be
[27:10.520 --> 27:18.280]  there. Well, he broke the story on that. And the chief of police story kept changing and changing
[27:18.280 --> 27:24.760]  and changing. So it come out, it was like written in stone. Then they break that stone and rewrite
[27:24.760 --> 27:32.360]  it and rewrite it and rewrite it. So these officers, they let them retire while under
[27:32.360 --> 27:38.440]  investigation for misconduct under color of law. They let them retire to lock in their
[27:38.440 --> 27:48.840]  retirement, which is dead raw. They should have at least suspended them with pay by their policy
[27:48.840 --> 27:55.880]  while they investigate. And then if due, then didn't fire them and prosecute them. But that
[27:55.880 --> 28:03.160]  thin blue line, when I started, the thin blue line meant that there's only a few of us between the
[28:03.160 --> 28:08.120]  bad guys and all the good public. And we were thin. There was only a certain number of us.
[28:08.680 --> 28:15.640]  And that we had to work together to protect the public. But in the very late 80s, early 90s,
[28:15.640 --> 28:21.640]  it gained momentum like us against them, like it had been in the 60s at some point.
[28:23.000 --> 28:30.440]  But not in a mean way. It's just we've got to work together. But they had a different attitude.
[28:31.000 --> 28:36.520]  And in the 90s, it just started changing, changing, changing. And there were people that come around
[28:36.520 --> 28:44.120]  with license plates that were the design of the thin blue line. And most police wouldn't touch it.
[28:44.120 --> 28:49.800]  They were scared of it. And they said, it makes us sound like a cult. And it's like making us
[28:49.800 --> 28:55.080]  cultish, like we belong to some satanic organization. And this is our gang symbol or something.
[28:55.640 --> 29:02.760]  So they refused it, refused it. But the more they become militarized, the more they took that on.
[29:03.480 --> 29:12.360]  So again, I suggest that everybody with a camera record your encounter with police.
[29:12.360 --> 29:19.080]  And then let the police account for their actions. This is why I'm out there.
[29:19.640 --> 29:28.920]  Okay, hang on. We're about to go to break. When we come back, I kind of stood back on this, but
[29:28.920 --> 29:35.000]  I would like to address this when we come back. I do have a solution for this one. And I think
[29:35.000 --> 29:44.040]  you'll like it. Randy Kelton, rule of our radio, I called in number 5126461984. We'll be,
[29:45.560 --> 29:51.240]  see, we've got another hour and a half. So probably at the top of the third hour,
[29:51.240 --> 29:55.160]  we'll start taking questions. Hang on, we'll be right back.
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[33:50.260 --> 34:00.020]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio on this, the 16th day of August, 2019.
[34:00.020 --> 34:08.660]  And Casey, you have a channel that, that's how I found you as I was, I had a lot of people
[34:08.660 --> 34:15.660]  send me links to different videos, and I went through these videos looking for the guys
[34:15.660 --> 34:24.740]  that seemed to have their head together, that what they were doing wasn't just somebody
[34:24.740 --> 34:28.860]  excising their anger, there were a bunch of people out there doing that, and I'm not
[34:28.860 --> 34:35.340]  criticizing that because that really drives the cops crazy, and they need that part.
[34:35.340 --> 34:41.780]  But they also need the guys that the police look at and say, wait a minute, wait a minute,
[34:41.780 --> 34:47.500]  this guy's got something else going on, and you were one of those guys, what is your channel,
[34:47.500 --> 34:49.620]  how can people find you?
[34:49.620 --> 34:56.020]  Sure, it's, I'm primarily on YouTube, I'm on multiple platforms, but I, right now, primarily
[34:56.020 --> 35:02.220]  YouTube, and they can go to North Idaho Exposed, and I'm really just digging into my local
[35:02.220 --> 35:07.780]  community, and that sort of thing, and the more you do this, the better you get at it.
[35:07.780 --> 35:12.540]  It's really nerve-wracking at first if you're really, you know, agreeing to this topic or
[35:12.540 --> 35:14.740]  doing this, but it's...
[35:14.740 --> 35:21.700]  Well, let me, let me comment on that, Damien spoke to that, the first time a policeman
[35:21.700 --> 35:29.860]  writes a ticket, he's terrified, the first time I took these guys on, I had a sheriff's
[35:29.860 --> 35:35.460]  deputy tried to kill me, they weren't big enough to get it done, so he charged me and
[35:35.460 --> 35:43.020]  prosecuted me to cover up what he did, well I was terrified, but I, you know, had no choice,
[35:43.020 --> 35:45.540]  they were coming after me.
[35:45.540 --> 35:53.180]  The second time, I was afraid, I was concerned, the third time, I said, screw you guys, we're
[35:53.180 --> 35:56.460]  going to fight.
[35:56.460 --> 36:04.460]  The guy who goes in there the first time or two and does this, that's courage.
[36:04.460 --> 36:08.060]  It takes a lot.
[36:08.060 --> 36:14.420]  Once you get past the front end, then it gets a lot easier, but you really find out what
[36:14.420 --> 36:22.020]  somebody's made of when you see how they act and respond when they're afraid, and I'm
[36:22.020 --> 36:27.980]  watching these guys doing this stuff, and I've been studying this for 30 years, I know
[36:27.980 --> 36:33.540]  every single step I'm going to take, I got a down pad, so it's peace of mind for me.
[36:33.540 --> 36:38.580]  I watch these guys do this and I'm amazed, I'm amazed that they're going in there but
[36:38.580 --> 36:45.820]  nothing but raw courage and it can't be considered anything else, I really do appreciate you
[36:45.820 --> 36:46.820]  guys.
[36:46.820 --> 36:48.820]  Okay, I'll shut up now.
[36:48.820 --> 36:57.140]  At some point, are you just going to sit on a couch or are you actually going to participate
[36:57.140 --> 37:01.060]  in liberty, trying to restore liberty?
[37:01.060 --> 37:04.380]  I swore an oath to the Constitution.
[37:04.380 --> 37:08.900]  Once I learned what that really meant, that was it for me.
[37:08.900 --> 37:13.700]  I found a mentor who really understood the Constitution.
[37:13.700 --> 37:19.180]  I followed him for a couple of years when he went to city council meetings and got nowhere
[37:19.180 --> 37:25.860]  with the city council, even after they served a writ of mandamus at one point, and then
[37:25.860 --> 37:31.740]  a co-warrento at another point, and they just ignored both of them.
[37:31.740 --> 37:39.660]  That was really insane to see that, so it's very effective once they get to know who you
[37:39.660 --> 37:40.660]  are.
[37:40.660 --> 37:45.180]  The police, when they see me filming them locally now, they go away, they just run away, they
[37:45.180 --> 37:52.580]  only want to encounter me, and that's so powerful, I can't even tell you.
[37:52.580 --> 37:57.580]  That is the epitome of the value of this tool.
[37:57.580 --> 38:03.140]  Those policemen are going to be much better policemen.
[38:03.140 --> 38:13.740]  When I do these things I do, I always know exactly what my intended outcome is, and in
[38:13.740 --> 38:18.140]  my case, everybody who listens to my show knows what it is.
[38:18.140 --> 38:24.020]  My purpose is to render every judge in the country in a position such that when they
[38:24.020 --> 38:28.660]  step up behind the bench and look out across the bar at the gallery, I won't am wondering
[38:28.660 --> 38:30.060]  which one.
[38:30.060 --> 38:33.900]  Which one of those scoundrels sitting out there and waiting for me to render a ruling
[38:33.900 --> 38:38.980]  he don't like so he can run down the grand jury and try to get me indicted.
[38:38.980 --> 38:43.220]  Everything I do filters through that.
[38:43.220 --> 38:49.660]  Everybody who does this, before you step up in front of that first guy, you need to mark
[38:49.660 --> 38:55.700]  in your brain, what am I trying to accomplish here?
[38:55.700 --> 38:59.140]  Make sure that everything you do moves you toward that.
[38:59.140 --> 39:08.460]  There is nothing more terrifying to these guys than someone who obviously has a purpose
[39:08.460 --> 39:13.300]  and nothing they can do will move him from that purpose.
[39:13.300 --> 39:22.780]  Benjamin Desiree once said, nothing can resist the human will that will risk its very existence
[39:22.780 --> 39:26.340]  upon the extent of its purpose.
[39:26.340 --> 39:34.380]  And they know you have purpose and that's what I found when I looked at your videos.
[39:34.380 --> 39:36.420]  You clearly had a purpose.
[39:36.420 --> 39:39.620]  You weren't telling them what that purpose was.
[39:39.620 --> 39:46.980]  But because of your comportment, they knew you had a purpose and they didn't know what
[39:46.980 --> 39:51.460]  it was and they did not want to get on the back side of that and I'll quickly preach
[39:51.460 --> 39:53.460]  you now.
[39:53.460 --> 40:00.180]  Yeah, once they get to know you, it's a game changer once they understand that you're not
[40:00.180 --> 40:04.900]  and I don't want to try to do the gotcha thing so I know this sort of is a gotcha thing
[40:04.900 --> 40:10.220]  but I always give them the opportunity to do the right thing and then that will get
[40:10.220 --> 40:13.260]  people in your local community behind you.
[40:13.260 --> 40:19.340]  For instance, I broke down a public record request because the city denied fulfilling
[40:19.340 --> 40:20.340]  it.
[40:20.340 --> 40:24.740]  It was a six-year date range and so it was going to be a lot of emails but they gave
[40:24.740 --> 40:26.380]  me the run around.
[40:26.380 --> 40:32.940]  I had broken the public record request into 18 parts in duplicate.
[40:32.940 --> 40:40.700]  I had four other people put their name to them and out of this, I offered people locally
[40:40.700 --> 40:48.700]  to come help me and one was a 20-year-old kid, smart kid and he's now helping me so I'm
[40:48.700 --> 40:55.060]  hoping to get the younger generation into this locally anyway and so you don't want
[40:55.060 --> 40:57.460]  to sully your reputation as much as possible.
[40:57.460 --> 40:59.460]  You're going to make mistakes, it happens.
[40:59.460 --> 41:01.540]  Let me comment on that.
[41:01.540 --> 41:06.420]  I am really pleased that you brought that up.
[41:06.420 --> 41:12.540]  I was helping someone, the city had come after him and on Friday nights I'd generally have
[41:12.540 --> 41:19.660]  a co-host now, Brett Fountain and he wasn't a co-host then but he had been taking on the
[41:19.660 --> 41:28.900]  police because of driver's license issue and so Tim and Laura are taking on this city
[41:28.900 --> 41:37.900]  and we talked to Brett and got Brett to file a whole bunch of information requests.
[41:37.900 --> 41:44.100]  There is nothing like bringing in a ringer.
[41:44.100 --> 41:49.620]  Someone coming in that they've never seen, they've never talked to and he's hitting them
[41:49.620 --> 41:55.540]  with requests and then when they, the first time they're late responding to the request
[41:55.540 --> 42:00.740]  he hits them with a criminal complaint and they're saying, who is this guy?
[42:00.740 --> 42:03.420]  Where does he come from?
[42:03.420 --> 42:07.420]  They have no idea how to deal with him and you're doing that to them, they don't know
[42:07.420 --> 42:09.620]  what's coming at him.
[42:09.620 --> 42:14.140]  For instance, I mean to cut you off there, but in Spokane where I went to the Drag Queen
[42:14.140 --> 42:20.020]  Story Hour, there were two Drag Queen Story Hour events a week apart in Spokane at two
[42:20.020 --> 42:25.420]  different libraries and it was a mess.
[42:25.420 --> 42:32.780]  It was the mass civil rights violations, they kicked out numerous media outlets, it was
[42:32.780 --> 42:33.780]  horrible.
[42:33.780 --> 42:38.380]  So I actually filed a complaint against the entire Spokane Police Department, I'm still
[42:38.380 --> 42:45.540]  waiting to hear back on that from the Elms-Budsman's office, I have 4,000 emails coming at some
[42:45.540 --> 42:51.300]  point from the mayor and the police chief regarding the situation and 80 body cameras
[42:51.300 --> 42:52.300]  from both events.
[42:52.300 --> 42:56.780]  So I got them working right now, so it's great once you kind of learn how to do this.
[42:56.780 --> 43:01.820]  I encourage people to do it, it's not hard, it's very easy once you learn it's simple.
[43:01.820 --> 43:08.380]  He's in there doing this and they all get together and they say, okay, what can we do
[43:08.380 --> 43:11.740]  to stop this guy?
[43:11.740 --> 43:18.380]  Nothing, and that's what their lawyers tell them, nothing, this guy can run rough shot
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[43:25.900 --> 43:29.420]  The end of the day, I help people file criminal charges and I tell them, it doesn't matter
[43:29.420 --> 43:33.940]  if you get them to the grand jury or not.
[43:33.940 --> 43:44.500]  Make grand jury noises, go in there and interrupt their procedures, it's not what you actually
[43:44.500 --> 43:51.660]  get done that's so powerful, it's what is likely to happen and the more corrupt the
[43:51.660 --> 43:58.140]  jurisdiction is, the more afraid of you they are, the more powerful, the more power you
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[46:53.460 --> 47:07.340]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton. We're on the radio. And with our special guests, Damien
[47:07.340 --> 47:17.140]  Jones and Casey Whelan. Casey, we were talking when we went out and I kept interrupting you.
[47:17.140 --> 47:22.460]  And if you listen to my show a lot, you find sometimes I get pretty preachy. I try to curb
[47:22.460 --> 47:31.820]  that. But I'll shut up now. Go ahead. No worries. Yeah, no, that's great. I like your feedback.
[47:31.820 --> 47:39.140]  But as far as like the public records request, I mean, it's like it's not very hard to do. So
[47:39.140 --> 47:43.580]  people should definitely learn how to do it. Actually, in Washington state, it's one of the
[47:43.580 --> 47:51.300]  best states. They're they've streamlined it so much. It's very simple to do online. In Washington,
[47:51.300 --> 47:59.980]  is the Open Records Act a criminal statute? I don't know that answer, actually. Most states,
[47:59.980 --> 48:05.580]  it actually is. You know, they say, well, if you don't like it, you can sue us. I say, no,
[48:05.580 --> 48:11.180]  if I can get you to ask me why I want to see the records, I hold 911 because it's a criminal
[48:11.180 --> 48:18.020]  statute. You might check that that gives you such a power. So you hold that close to the best,
[48:18.020 --> 48:23.980]  right? Like you said, that other gentleman, I think he'll after they they don't meet the like
[48:23.980 --> 48:30.220]  for in Idaho, it's three days, they have to notify you if they so if they don't if they break that
[48:30.220 --> 48:34.460]  three day window, then you hit him with a criminal complaint. Is that basically how it works? Yes,
[48:34.460 --> 48:43.660]  we have this rule in on the show. I've tried to craft the technology into a set of rules. And
[48:43.660 --> 48:51.660]  one of the rules is never give legal advice. Don't say, oh, I got this right, I got that right,
[48:51.660 --> 48:56.340]  you're supposed to do this, you're supposed to do that. All that happens when you do that is they
[48:56.340 --> 49:07.700]  will label you as being agitated. Bushwack is so much better. You see, I got this little invisible
[49:07.700 --> 49:18.740]  tar baby. And I go into public officials. And I follow another rule. Never ask a public official
[49:18.740 --> 49:27.780]  to do anything you actually want him to do. Because you never ask a public official to do
[49:27.780 --> 49:33.540]  anything that the law does not command him to do. So if you don't tell him what the law is,
[49:33.540 --> 49:38.980]  you say, here, I want you to do this thing. And when they don't do it, instead of feeling
[49:38.980 --> 49:50.180]  frustrated and betrayed and angry, gotcha, stuck to my tar baby. And then you go to the next person,
[49:50.180 --> 49:58.180]  like I'll call 911, get an officer down there and tell him arrest that person. Oh, well,
[49:58.180 --> 50:07.700]  you violated this law. No fair warning. One of the tricks. Once you've done that to one of these
[50:07.700 --> 50:17.460]  guys one time, you really got their attention. So I hear you keep on citing the state criminal
[50:17.460 --> 50:22.580]  procedures. So that's something that obviously you use all the time. So that's something that the
[50:22.580 --> 50:31.220]  auditors need to really one. There's one law. Everybody should have this one memorized. And
[50:31.220 --> 50:41.220]  every state has it. 18 US code 242, Klu Klux Klan Act 1871. Most everybody, most everybody knows
[50:41.220 --> 50:49.460]  about 42 US code 1983. That says that you can sue a public official. Well, that is the second half
[50:49.460 --> 51:00.660]  of the Klu Klux Klan Act. The first half is 18 US code 242. And every state has a statute that
[51:00.660 --> 51:11.300]  reflects this. And it is the catch all if a public official acting under the color or pretense of an
[51:11.300 --> 51:21.780]  official capacity exerts or purports to exert an authority he does not expressly have or fails to
[51:21.780 --> 51:28.980]  perform a duty he was required to perform. And in the process denies the citizen full pre-access to
[51:28.980 --> 51:36.900]  her enjoyment of right. It's a class A misdemeanor in every state. So all I gotta do is go in there
[51:36.900 --> 51:44.340]  and stick the camera in his face like I watched your videos of the federal building. And when
[51:44.340 --> 51:55.940]  that guy put his hand on my camera 911, he thinks he has some kind of authority. He is in a federal
[51:55.940 --> 52:05.140]  building and he thinks that's that the federal law applies there. No, it don't. Federal law only
[52:05.140 --> 52:12.900]  applies in a federal enclave, a property that has been ceded to the federal government. They've
[52:12.900 --> 52:21.380]  done that with all the federal prisons so that the prisons can use federal officers to run the
[52:21.380 --> 52:30.180]  prisons. All of the federal courthouses are leased from the state. If if the judge pulls a pistol
[52:30.180 --> 52:37.140]  and shoots somebody in the courthouse, the feds don't handle that the state does. A lot of you
[52:37.140 --> 52:45.380]  may remember the movie the Presidio where there's a murder on the Marine base. The local sheriff
[52:45.380 --> 52:56.020]  came in and investigated that not the Marines. So the these guys are subject to the state law.
[52:56.020 --> 53:05.220]  And when they step outside that courthouse, they have no authority at all. They're in
[53:05.220 --> 53:14.020]  this state now and their devoid of any a federal official cannot come into a county without the
[53:14.020 --> 53:24.180]  high sheriff for the county's permission. No, no, no authority at all. So I get a 911 call and I
[53:24.180 --> 53:32.500]  call the state. The rule is take the fed to the state and state to the fed. So now I got this state
[53:32.500 --> 53:41.540]  cop answering my 911 call and I'm asking to arrest this this marshal for aggravated assault.
[53:43.220 --> 53:48.980]  When he touched your camera, that was simple assault. But he did that while prominently
[53:48.980 --> 53:56.900]  displaying a deadly weapon. That's a felony. And most states have a statute that makes it a crime.
[53:57.620 --> 54:02.740]  If you have knowledge that a felony has been committed and you don't report that knowledge.
[54:05.380 --> 54:12.180]  So when you report it, you become a protective class. These guys the first time you do that to
[54:12.180 --> 54:19.300]  them, they'll never forget it. Because when the cop comes out and you ask him to arrest you as
[54:19.300 --> 54:26.180]  Marshall, he's going to poop his britches. And then he's going to start doing this little cheeking
[54:26.180 --> 54:33.300]  dance where he's shifting from one foot to the other, trying to talk you into not asking him
[54:33.300 --> 54:40.260]  to do something he doesn't want to do. Damon, you probably are familiar with that. Kind of a
[54:40.260 --> 54:49.860]  nervous shifting back and forth. Again, in fact, I had a sergeant one time. And I'm not sure in
[54:49.860 --> 54:57.140]  hindsight that he wasn't autistic or had something else going on. But he constantly would have his
[54:57.140 --> 55:03.700]  arms folded. And he would sway to the left and right back and forth when taking a complaint,
[55:03.700 --> 55:11.940]  talking to somebody. He had too much energy or something. I don't know. But if he got on a hot
[55:11.940 --> 55:19.060]  topic, the only way you'd know any difference is how fast it swayed. That's how fast it swayed.
[55:19.860 --> 55:27.540]  So when I was under his command, and he'd come out and he'd be swaying just about even,
[55:27.540 --> 55:30.740]  I was talking to him, I know everything's good. He started swaying fast. I said,
[55:30.740 --> 55:35.380]  what's going on? So what do you mean? I said, you're swaying fast. I said,
[55:35.380 --> 55:43.940]  you got something in your brain, boss. Now, I eventually become the chief of police. So I
[55:43.940 --> 55:50.420]  was his boss. And when I was talking to him, he'd sway real slow, unless I said something
[55:50.420 --> 55:57.700]  to hit a hot button, and there you go. But, you know, did you ever suggest that he not play poker?
[55:57.700 --> 56:09.700]  No. No, that's cruel. He actually, when he graduated from the Florida State University,
[56:09.700 --> 56:15.940]  he interned at the state attorney's office in Florida. And then he come over and helped
[56:16.580 --> 56:23.460]  create the first police department. And he got to knowing the people, and they had a nickname
[56:23.460 --> 56:30.580]  for him. They called him Pac Man. And so I asked people, so why are you calling Pac Man? He's
[56:30.580 --> 56:39.540]  gobbling people up. You know, he's arresting a lot of people. And so I said, well, you know,
[56:39.540 --> 56:46.260]  is that a good thing or bad thing? Oh, he got him. He got him right. He got him right. And
[56:46.260 --> 56:51.220]  even people who had a rest, he'd see him around town, and they'd say, what's you doing? Sorry,
[56:51.220 --> 56:58.660]  what you doing? Because he wasn't making bogus arrest. So he had the respect of the community.
[57:00.420 --> 57:08.100]  So, but he knew the law backwards and forwards. And literally, he come out one day and said, hey,
[57:08.100 --> 57:13.860]  he said, you know, they got a law that we've never used. And I said, what's that? He said,
[57:13.860 --> 57:24.020]  I checked the state. It's never been used. That people was taking these clothes or a t-shirt
[57:24.020 --> 57:30.260]  and putting it in turpentine or glues or whatever and sniffing it. And they were getting high.
[57:30.900 --> 57:36.980]  And he said, it's actually DUI in this state. Well, he actually stopped somebody.
[57:36.980 --> 57:45.380]  And he charged them with that because they admitted to sniffing some glue through this
[57:45.380 --> 57:47.940]  fabric and the gags they had wrapped around his face.
[57:50.820 --> 57:56.180]  And he was the first only person ever used that statute in the state. And he won his case.
[57:57.860 --> 58:05.300]  Interesting. Yeah. Okay, we're about to go to break. But in that regard,
[58:05.300 --> 58:14.660]  the tactics that I use, if I get a really smart, knowledgeable cop, they don't affect him at all.
[58:15.700 --> 58:23.540]  They have no problem for me. So it only by taking these guys on, you only pull out the bad ones or
[58:23.540 --> 58:29.460]  the ones making a mistake. And that's the best one. You, you see them for making a mistake. You
[58:29.460 --> 58:36.820]  tend to get that fixed. Hang on, Randy Kelton, RealVal Radio, we'll be right back.
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[01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:51.460]  a crypto coin history the year nineteen sixteen the preparedness day bombing a time suitcase
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[01:00:56.420 --> 01:01:06.340]  day parade killing ten and entering forty today in history and recent news since governor greg
[01:01:06.340 --> 01:01:12.020]  abit signed house bill 1325 legalizing hemp and attests his law back in june county prosecutors
[01:01:12.020 --> 01:01:16.580]  around the state including houston austin san Antonio have been dropping marijuana possession
[01:01:16.580 --> 01:01:21.460]  charges and even refusing to file new ones since they are stipulating that they do not have the time
[01:01:21.460 --> 01:01:26.740]  or the laboratory equipment to test the earth for thc margaret moore the travis county district
[01:01:26.740 --> 01:01:31.220]  attorney announced earlier this month that she was dismissing 32 felony possession and delivery of
[01:01:31.220 --> 01:01:36.340]  marijuana cases because of the law mr abit and other state officials and including the attorney
[01:01:36.340 --> 01:01:41.060]  general stipulated in a letter that county district attorneys back on thursday that marijuana has
[01:01:41.060 --> 01:01:46.100]  not been decriminalized in texas and that these actions demonstrate a misunderstanding of how
[01:01:46.100 --> 01:01:53.860]  hv 1325 works as well as other cities too like the district attorney and el paso kime asparza a
[01:01:53.860 --> 01:01:59.060]  democrat who also stated earlier this month that the law quote will not have an effect on the
[01:01:59.060 --> 01:02:04.820]  prosecution of marijuana cases in el paso however the issue was succinctly summarized by mr brandon
[01:02:04.820 --> 01:02:10.260]  ball an assistant public defender in harris county who stated that quote the law is constantly changing
[01:02:10.260 --> 01:02:14.740]  on what makes something illegal based on its chemical makeup it's important that if someone is
[01:02:14.740 --> 01:02:24.180]  charged with something the test matches what they're charged with a paper by tulane university
[01:02:24.180 --> 01:02:29.300]  identified a five and a half inch american pocket shark as the first of its kind in the gulf of
[01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:35.300]  mexico the specimen being only the second pocket shark ever captured or recorded with the other
[01:02:35.300 --> 01:02:40.580]  one being found way back in 1979 in the east pacific ocean according to the university paper
[01:02:40.580 --> 01:02:47.540]  the shark secretes a luminous fluid from a gland near its front fins for the purposes hypothesized
[01:02:47.540 --> 01:02:55.780]  to lure and pray we may be drawn into the glow this is roof roadie with your lowdown for july
[01:03:17.780 --> 01:03:23.780]  oh
[01:03:23.780 --> 01:03:29.280]  Why my father taught me till he returned?
[01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.080]  I will act as I'm my father's child
[01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:37.460]  He has a name with his faith and with God
[01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:40.260]  I will aid my concern
[01:03:40.260 --> 01:03:43.960]  I will act as I'm my father's child
[01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.340]  Yeah, I will act as I'm my father's child
[01:03:48.340 --> 01:03:51.140]  I will feel like he's free
[01:03:51.140 --> 01:03:55.340]  I will act as I'm my father's child
[01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:59.340]  I will guard these walls infected
[01:03:59.340 --> 01:04:02.140]  I will make all mistakes, please
[01:04:02.140 --> 01:04:05.620]  I will act as I'm my father's child
[01:04:05.620 --> 01:04:13.120]  Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rula La Radio, here with Damon and Casey.
[01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:21.120]  And on the break we're talking about how effective and powerful it is
[01:04:21.120 --> 01:04:31.580]  when the police are jumping up and down and getting all excited for the auditor to de-escalate.
[01:04:31.580 --> 01:04:34.080]  Will you speak to that?
[01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:42.280]  Yes, so it's nerve-wracking when you're new to this, but you always have to be fluid when you're doing this.
[01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:49.660]  You have to sort of change your direction sometimes, you have to be able to turn on a dime, so to speak.
[01:04:49.660 --> 01:04:57.960]  And so a couple of things that you could do if anyone out there is interested in doing this is take somebody with you if you're new at this.
[01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:01.660]  Don't go by yourself. That's actually one of the things that's very important, I think, if you're new at this.
[01:05:01.660 --> 01:05:10.660]  Don't go by yourself. It's just you can do it. I did it and it was nerve-wracking, but in the end it'll protect yourself.
[01:05:10.660 --> 01:05:16.360]  The Chief was talking about how David of News Now Houston will park very far away.
[01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:27.360]  Yes, you don't want them to find your vehicle. I actually had the first encounter, the police followed me from the police station to try to find out where I was parked.
[01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:34.360]  And the officer, I didn't get it on camera, but he called me a jackboot thug because I was yelling at his car anyway.
[01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:40.360]  It's a long story. You should wear that as a badge.
[01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:46.360]  Oh, I was so mad though, but I was green then too.
[01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:55.360]  So when you're countering the police, just be polite. You want to try to disengage your feelings if it's possible.
[01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:59.360]  I know it's hard for some people to do that, but it's paramount because you'll get so much farther.
[01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:06.360]  You're recording this, so people are going to get on you for your behavior if you step out of line.
[01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:14.360]  You know, I have some people locally that, you know, they don't really maybe quite get it, and they sort of, you know, talk to me about that.
[01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:18.360]  But, you know, I mean, you're going to mess up sometimes. It's just the nature of the beast.
[01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:25.360]  So when they escalate, I escalate, and what I mean by that is I will ask for their supervisor.
[01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:33.360]  If I get a supervisor who's still doing the same thing as the prior guy, I want to talk to his supervisor and keep going and just cite the law.
[01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:40.360]  Just like I said, Article 1, Section 5 of the Idaho State Constitution that, you know, addresses freedom of speech.
[01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:46.360]  And when you do that, then, you know, then, for instance, I did it at the Drag Queen Story Hour.
[01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:53.360]  They were intimidating and harassing me, you know, USC Title 18-242-241.
[01:06:53.360 --> 01:07:00.360]  And so I cited the law of the guy, and he said, okay, but they basically said,
[01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.360]  you can go report on the event from across the street on the protestor's side.
[01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:08.360]  Anyways, so, you know, they were just making stuff up.
[01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:14.360]  They arrested a pastor at this event for obstruction of nothing, and he was just trying to go to the library.
[01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:16.360]  Anyways, long story.
[01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:24.360]  But to de-escalate, you know, go up the chain, he polite, cite the law, and just assert your rights.
[01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:29.360]  And you just keep hammering on them, and you'll see their behavior change.
[01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:35.360]  But let's, I want to pass it off to Chief Jones, because he can discuss this a little bit more, too.
[01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:40.360]  How do you de-escalate, Chief?
[01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:43.360]  From the citizen perspective?
[01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.360]  From an auditor perspective.
[01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:46.360]  Oh, okay.
[01:07:46.360 --> 01:08:14.360]  And, well, I've got more email texts and phone calls over my video I did at La Carte, Texas, where the big deputy came in and marched in on an authorized, friendly, consensual interview of the Treasurer's Office asking me a bunch of questions.
[01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:20.360]  So I said, well, I could tell you what works to think, you know, it's none of your business.
[01:08:20.360 --> 01:08:26.360]  And his eyes got, you know, if you look, you can watch his eyes on my YouTube channel.
[01:08:26.360 --> 01:08:40.360]  And I said, but I'm actually going to go the other way, because I said, you know, this guy appears to be new, young, and he might really re-overact.
[01:08:40.360 --> 01:08:47.360]  Of course, I want to de-escalate anyway. This guy's bigger than me, and I'm not a midget, but no means.
[01:08:47.360 --> 01:08:52.360]  So when somebody's bigger than me, I really think about it.
[01:08:52.360 --> 01:09:00.360]  So this, I say, look, I'm here as news media.
[01:09:00.360 --> 01:09:02.360]  That's the way I approach it.
[01:09:02.360 --> 01:09:08.360]  I have gone to all these offices and interviewed everyone without incident.
[01:09:08.360 --> 01:09:15.360]  I'm in the middle of an interview and you're impinging on my personal management rights.
[01:09:15.360 --> 01:09:19.360]  So I said, I have dispelled the alarm.
[01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:22.360]  So, you know, why aren't you still here?
[01:09:22.360 --> 01:09:25.360]  Well, I can ask you to leave.
[01:09:25.360 --> 01:09:29.360]  Okay. And what if I don't accept your invitation?
[01:09:29.360 --> 01:09:33.360]  Well, I could put you in jail and I said, could or would.
[01:09:33.360 --> 01:09:35.360]  There's a big difference.
[01:09:35.360 --> 01:09:42.360]  So I put him on the spot. He was going to have to pot him or leave the room.
[01:09:42.360 --> 01:09:56.360]  So he, before he gets too deep in it, then the captain shows up and I on purpose wore a cap that said police on him.
[01:09:56.360 --> 01:09:59.360]  So this guy does this guy don't miss a beat.
[01:09:59.360 --> 01:10:02.360]  He goes to, you know, are you police?
[01:10:02.360 --> 01:10:06.360]  See, the first thing he wants to do is go, are you the police?
[01:10:06.360 --> 01:10:11.360]  Because he thought, man, if I can get him for impersonating a peace officer, he goes straight to jail.
[01:10:11.360 --> 01:10:12.360]  That ends everything.
[01:10:12.360 --> 01:10:15.360]  So he was ready to go from zero to 100.
[01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:17.360]  I said, I'm retired.
[01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:20.360]  I'm retired.
[01:10:20.360 --> 01:10:22.360]  Okay.
[01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:28.360]  I thought about being funny and say, you know, there's a band called the police and I support the police band.
[01:10:28.360 --> 01:10:32.360]  So this is a, you know, for a rock band.
[01:10:32.360 --> 01:10:35.360]  But I decided I didn't want to go that way.
[01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:40.360]  He was more no nonsense, straight, straight business, get to it.
[01:10:40.360 --> 01:10:42.360]  But he was a captain.
[01:10:42.360 --> 01:10:48.360]  So I knew unless he was a political appointee had been around a while, probably 10 years or more.
[01:10:48.360 --> 01:10:51.360]  Probably went through a couple of ministrations.
[01:10:51.360 --> 01:10:54.360]  So he survived all the politics.
[01:10:54.360 --> 01:10:57.360]  There's a lot of in the sheriff's office because people run for office.
[01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:03.360]  So in any way, I basically told him, unless, you know, you're captain.
[01:11:03.360 --> 01:11:07.360]  So you've been around a long time unless you're a political appointee.
[01:11:07.360 --> 01:11:10.360]  And I said, this is what's going on.
[01:11:10.360 --> 01:11:16.360]  Well, he says, well, if you're a peace officer, you know this and you know that.
[01:11:16.360 --> 01:11:17.360]  Yes.
[01:11:17.360 --> 01:11:20.360]  But if I was at the court, he said, what?
[01:11:20.360 --> 01:11:26.360]  I said, if I was the deputy sheriff in this county and I was assigned to this courthouse, I wouldn't even be up here.
[01:11:26.360 --> 01:11:32.360]  So you get to see two seasoned officers.
[01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:35.360]  From my perspective, go toe to toe.
[01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:52.360]  And it's a civil conversation, but he's trying to create a limited and a special type of coercion on me by his presence, his stance and his questions to try and scare me off.
[01:11:52.360 --> 01:11:56.360]  So he goes with the woman wants you to leave the office.
[01:11:56.360 --> 01:12:01.360]  Well, she hasn't asked me to leave and everything was fine until he showed up.
[01:12:01.360 --> 01:12:03.360]  Now you showed up y'all scared her off.
[01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:04.360]  Not me.
[01:12:04.360 --> 01:12:06.360]  We were doing fine.
[01:12:06.360 --> 01:12:10.360]  So I'm trying to de-escalate it and de-escalate it.
[01:12:10.360 --> 01:12:13.360]  So I think it's going better.
[01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:16.360]  I really felt like it was going better.
[01:12:16.360 --> 01:12:29.360]  So at some point, the other auditor I had with me, Yacht Line News, and most police don't ask him what that stands for, but it's your ignorance of the law is no excuse.
[01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:31.360]  These Yacht Line News.
[01:12:31.360 --> 01:12:33.360]  So he comes in and starts filming.
[01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:36.360]  He wants to know where I'm from.
[01:12:36.360 --> 01:12:40.360]  I started to say from Planet Earth, but again, I thought better.
[01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:45.360]  And I said, I'm from Alabama.
[01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:54.360]  Then he asked my buddy something and I said, well, he's not from Alabama or something to that effect.
[01:12:54.360 --> 01:12:57.360]  I'm having a hard time remembering exact, but he says, where are you from?
[01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:58.360]  Texas.
[01:12:58.360 --> 01:12:59.360]  He said, where?
[01:12:59.360 --> 01:13:01.360]  He said, Texas.
[01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:05.360]  So now he knows he don't just have me.
[01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:06.360]  So there's now two deputies.
[01:13:06.360 --> 01:13:08.360]  There's also two auditors.
[01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:15.360]  So in the meantime, Bob from Downstairs, the HR director, he comes up all hot and bothered.
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:26.360]  When I just had talked to him and the administrative assistant downstairs about going to see the judge who was not there, but his secretary was very kind.
[01:13:26.360 --> 01:13:30.360]  She let me even record his office and this was live streaming.
[01:13:30.360 --> 01:13:41.360]  And at some point in the captain decides he's going to get from about seven or eight, maybe even 10 foot away from me over to three or four foot for me.
[01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:43.360]  He's closing in.
[01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:46.360]  So him and the deputy are here together now.
[01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:49.360]  So now they're like ganging up.
[01:13:49.360 --> 01:14:00.360]  So I said, for my own safety, I feel threatened.
[01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:01.360]  So I was putting him on notice.
[01:14:01.360 --> 01:14:02.360]  You're intimidating me.
[01:14:02.360 --> 01:14:03.360]  You're threatening me.
[01:14:03.360 --> 01:14:06.360]  You're creating prior restraint.
[01:14:06.360 --> 01:14:10.360]  So I'm going to depart the area under fear.
[01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:11.360]  Okay.
[01:14:11.360 --> 01:14:17.360]  So then we go outside so they all want to come outside and keep the dialogue going.
[01:14:17.360 --> 01:14:20.360]  The other auditor goes into this is prior restraint.
[01:14:20.360 --> 01:14:29.360]  And then, you know, they're wanting to play the chicken dance and intimidation simultaneously.
[01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:34.360]  They're switching back and forth from 30 seconds to a minute back and forth.
[01:14:34.360 --> 01:14:40.360]  And the HR director says, well, yeah, I changed my attitude because you're filming everybody and everything.
[01:14:40.360 --> 01:14:41.360]  Okay.
[01:14:41.360 --> 01:14:50.360]  I mean, they act like the camera in modern times is a gun versus a camera.
[01:14:50.360 --> 01:14:52.360]  Yes.
[01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:58.360]  In a federal courthouse, the US Marshall said, you can't take a camera there.
[01:14:58.360 --> 01:15:01.360]  It's just like a gun.
[01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:02.360]  Yeah.
[01:15:02.360 --> 01:15:08.360]  Well, I had the same problem at the federal courthouse.
[01:15:08.360 --> 01:15:17.360]  The Texas or Canada that's happened in Texas and happened in Arkansas with the US Marshall and my life streamed that.
[01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:21.360]  And I'm trying to tell him I'm retired law enforcement.
[01:15:21.360 --> 01:15:27.360]  And I didn't have a gun on me, but I could carry a gun and I could do these things.
[01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:32.360]  So it was a, a better word.
[01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:35.360]  A mix can stand off to a point.
[01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:37.360]  So they had a post office there.
[01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:46.360]  They were in the post office and we went a couple of rounds about, yes, I can, no, you can't, yes, can, you can't.
[01:15:46.360 --> 01:15:56.360]  And so I filmed around the entire building and I found them doing a lady that may or may not have had some mental issues.
[01:15:56.360 --> 01:15:59.360]  They were trying to get her away.
[01:15:59.360 --> 01:16:04.360]  And so I was filming this and I was talking to her and talking to the police.
[01:16:04.360 --> 01:16:08.360]  These marshals are over zealous.
[01:16:08.360 --> 01:16:17.360]  And I had a friend of mine do one at the Marshall's office in downtown Dallas, R. B. Texas news.
[01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:23.360]  And he really threw him for a loop because he talked to a homeless security downstairs.
[01:16:23.360 --> 01:16:27.360]  And then he went upstairs and they're trying to tell him stuff.
[01:16:27.360 --> 01:16:30.360]  And then he goes back downstairs.
[01:16:30.360 --> 01:16:36.360]  And so he verbally spars with them and he's trying to let him know.
[01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:43.360]  The first thing out of your mouth, in my opinion, should be, I'm not armed and I'm no threat.
[01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:44.360]  Okay, hang on.
[01:16:44.360 --> 01:16:45.360]  About to go to break.
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[01:19:44.360 --> 01:19:46.360]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio.
[01:19:46.360 --> 01:19:49.360]  And we've got Damien and Casey on.
[01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:56.360]  And Casey on the break, we were talking about style and I didn't really understand what
[01:19:56.360 --> 01:19:58.360]  you meant by style.
[01:19:58.360 --> 01:20:00.360]  Will you address that?
[01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:01.360]  Sure.
[01:20:01.360 --> 01:20:07.360]  So, for instance, excuse me, David, excuse me, David of News Now Houston, who basically
[01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:13.360]  started the movement, the First Amendment auditing, he would generally stand outside
[01:20:13.360 --> 01:20:18.360]  of locations in the same, I don't know about the same place, but generally in the same
[01:20:18.360 --> 01:20:20.360]  place, like a lot of times.
[01:20:20.360 --> 01:20:23.360]  And that's the way he does it.
[01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:29.360]  He'll just stand outside of law enforcement building or a public building.
[01:20:29.360 --> 01:20:36.360]  We focus a lot on the police here, but really it's any public officials game.
[01:20:36.360 --> 01:20:40.360]  So, and then you can expand how you approach these subjects.
[01:20:40.360 --> 01:20:46.360]  So, you can just start off by being a cop watcher and then you can expand and go into
[01:20:46.360 --> 01:20:47.360]  different areas.
[01:20:47.360 --> 01:20:53.360]  So, I like to go into the buildings and talk to the public officials.
[01:20:53.360 --> 01:20:57.360]  I don't just like to focus on the police, although that's very important.
[01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:05.360]  I think it's good to also, like you do, Randy, you put the public officials on notice and
[01:21:05.360 --> 01:21:07.360]  corruption is everywhere.
[01:21:07.360 --> 01:21:09.360]  So, I like to go in the buildings.
[01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:14.360]  I don't know what chief prefers, but he can talk about that.
[01:21:14.360 --> 01:21:16.360]  What do you like to do, chief?
[01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:19.360]  How do you like to approach those situations?
[01:21:19.360 --> 01:21:24.360]  Well, excuse me, I'm an unorthodox man.
[01:21:24.360 --> 01:21:31.360]  I think about things that Jesus did, how he taught people in parables.
[01:21:31.360 --> 01:21:36.360]  And sometimes I talk to people in parables where they can get it.
[01:21:36.360 --> 01:21:43.360]  Sometimes I walk around the outside of a building and see if it seems to distract
[01:21:43.360 --> 01:21:47.360]  anybody or draw attention.
[01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:51.360]  But I dress in casual clothes.
[01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:58.360]  I walk around real slow and I'm talking in sightseeing.
[01:21:58.360 --> 01:22:03.360]  And then if there's nothing happens and I say, okay, I'll go to the second step and I go
[01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:11.360]  into the corridor or the first accessible area and I'm looking around for pictures,
[01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:18.360]  artwork, certificates, anything that might be posted in the public lobby.
[01:22:18.360 --> 01:22:22.360]  So, I'm telling them where I'm at, what this says.
[01:22:22.360 --> 01:22:26.360]  I wait a few seconds on it and then I just keep going.
[01:22:26.360 --> 01:22:33.360]  Now, here's where I'm different than some others that are real hardcore.
[01:22:33.360 --> 01:22:39.360]  And they're, in my opinion, some of them are really looking for a payday.
[01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:41.360]  But it's mainly just a couple.
[01:22:41.360 --> 01:22:47.360]  And the community polices itself, they've been called out repeatedly.
[01:22:47.360 --> 01:22:55.360]  So, when the clerk or the police dispatcher, who it is, says, can I help you?
[01:22:55.360 --> 01:23:00.360]  Well, these hardcore say no, and they just keep going.
[01:23:00.360 --> 01:23:05.360]  So, that alarms them because they see in film and stuff, they say, can I help you?
[01:23:05.360 --> 01:23:08.360]  And they had no communication other than no.
[01:23:08.360 --> 01:23:10.360]  So, the only thing they got was negative.
[01:23:10.360 --> 01:23:14.360]  I say, well, I don't know.
[01:23:14.360 --> 01:23:20.360]  I'm just right now taking a video tour of the building, talking about the history of it,
[01:23:20.360 --> 01:23:24.360]  showing the public what's in the building.
[01:23:24.360 --> 01:23:27.360]  Who are you and what do you do?
[01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:28.360]  Or something like that.
[01:23:28.360 --> 01:23:37.360]  So, now I've changed the style and I've kind of put it down to where they don't have a valid complaint now.
[01:23:37.360 --> 01:23:42.360]  They're like, well, this guy came in film and I asked him about helping us know and roaming around.
[01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:43.360]  So, it scared me.
[01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:44.360]  So, I...
[01:23:44.360 --> 01:23:45.360]  Chief?
[01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:46.360]  Yeah.
[01:23:46.360 --> 01:23:50.360]  I don't mean to interrupt you, but if you talk about the importance of asking questions,
[01:23:50.360 --> 01:23:54.360]  that's so vital that you get them off their game.
[01:23:54.360 --> 01:23:56.360]  It works every time or uses their name.
[01:23:56.360 --> 01:23:59.360]  You have the camera pointed at their badge.
[01:23:59.360 --> 01:24:01.360]  You are officer, okay.
[01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:05.360]  And that instantly, those two things will just completely change things in your favor.
[01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:06.360]  Go ahead, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
[01:24:06.360 --> 01:24:07.360]  Oh, no problem.
[01:24:07.360 --> 01:24:08.360]  You're correct.
[01:24:08.360 --> 01:24:09.360]  There's...
[01:24:09.360 --> 01:24:16.360]  I think about dealing with this like peeling an onion one layer at a time.
[01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:22.360]  You can slice it and dice it a lot of different ways and you can maybe have a different outcome.
[01:24:22.360 --> 01:24:31.360]  So, by engaging them in a passive, respectful manner, then if they say,
[01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:39.360]  I don't want to talk to you or don't take my picture, then you're on the question inside.
[01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:40.360]  Why?
[01:24:40.360 --> 01:24:41.360]  What's going on?
[01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:42.360]  Did I do something wrong?
[01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:43.360]  Yeah.
[01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:44.360]  What law?
[01:24:44.360 --> 01:24:45.360]  Yeah.
[01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:55.360]  So, sometimes when it's clerks and it's ladies, I don't know why, but they just...
[01:24:55.360 --> 01:25:01.360]  Anything that they can't comprehend immediately that is something that they're trained on,
[01:25:01.360 --> 01:25:05.360]  something they deal with, a lot of them have a knee-jerk reaction.
[01:25:05.360 --> 01:25:07.360]  Don't put my face on there.
[01:25:07.360 --> 01:25:09.360]  You can't take my picture.
[01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:11.360]  Well, you're actually wrong.
[01:25:11.360 --> 01:25:17.360]  And I've told some of them, I'm not a commercial photographer selling your photographs.
[01:25:17.360 --> 01:25:25.360]  So, I'm just here as a man gaining information that's newsworthy to the public.
[01:25:25.360 --> 01:25:33.360]  And I'm just asking you as a member of the public what your name is, what do you do,
[01:25:33.360 --> 01:25:34.360]  just like I did the other plate.
[01:25:34.360 --> 01:25:37.360]  I said, well, what does this office do?
[01:25:37.360 --> 01:25:39.360]  What do you not do?
[01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:40.360]  Who does that?
[01:25:40.360 --> 01:25:46.360]  So, going around asking questions, it gives them an opportunity to look excellent.
[01:25:46.360 --> 01:25:51.360]  And some employees will say, well, my name's Jeannie or Robbie or I'm Bob or whoever,
[01:25:51.360 --> 01:25:55.360]  and this is where people pay fines.
[01:25:55.360 --> 01:25:57.360]  What kind of fines?
[01:25:57.360 --> 01:26:01.360]  Traffic fines, city ordinance fines and stuff.
[01:26:01.360 --> 01:26:07.360]  And then that gives you a way to say, well, how much is a fine for speed?
[01:26:07.360 --> 01:26:09.360]  Ask different questions.
[01:26:09.360 --> 01:26:16.360]  If you're dealing with the police, you might say, how long you've been a police officer or a deputy?
[01:26:16.360 --> 01:26:18.360]  Oh, well, that doesn't matter.
[01:26:18.360 --> 01:26:25.360]  Well, I mean, I just want to know if you're a rookie and you're new and you don't know the answer to most of my questions,
[01:26:25.360 --> 01:26:30.360]  or you've been around 10 or 15 years and you can probably really dialogue with me.
[01:26:30.360 --> 01:26:37.360]  So, now he's going to look kind of dingy if he don't answer nothing and say, well, I didn't mean to upset you.
[01:26:37.360 --> 01:26:39.360]  I guess you're a rookie.
[01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:43.360]  Can you send a more seasoned officer to talk to me?
[01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:45.360]  Et cetera.
[01:26:45.360 --> 01:26:49.360]  So, I can change gears either way.
[01:26:49.360 --> 01:26:58.360]  And so, police that have something to fear or they're in net, they don't want to be on video.
[01:26:58.360 --> 01:27:00.360]  And that's what they want to have.
[01:27:00.360 --> 01:27:01.360]  They don't know their job.
[01:27:01.360 --> 01:27:03.360]  They don't understand their job.
[01:27:03.360 --> 01:27:13.360]  It's just a paycheck or a power grip and it shows immediately the police that are comfortable in their skin.
[01:27:13.360 --> 01:27:15.360]  They know their job.
[01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:23.360]  They will sit there and usually answer a few questions so long as they don't think you're making them look bad.
[01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:25.360]  But a lot of them have a knee jerk reaction.
[01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:28.360]  They're making us look bad.
[01:27:28.360 --> 01:27:30.360]  They're making me look bad.
[01:27:30.360 --> 01:27:35.360]  So, as long as they're not looking bad, they'll generally talk to you.
[01:27:35.360 --> 01:27:40.360]  And it's also important to highlight the people that are doing a good job.
[01:27:40.360 --> 01:27:44.360]  And I have a Hall of Fame section on my page.
[01:27:44.360 --> 01:27:48.360]  So, the FBI locally, I audited them.
[01:27:48.360 --> 01:27:55.360]  Rick, who works for the FBI came out, I put them in the Hall of Fame because he did an outstanding job.
[01:27:55.360 --> 01:28:01.360]  And that's very important, I think, too, to get the community interested in what you're doing.
[01:28:01.360 --> 01:28:10.360]  That is, I once called my sergeant for the DPS and complimented a DPS guy.
[01:28:10.360 --> 01:28:12.360]  I was pulled over the side of the road.
[01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:17.360]  I had a motor in the back of my brand new avalanche and it was moving around so I was tightening it up.
[01:28:17.360 --> 01:28:20.360]  He pulled up and said, do you need any help?
[01:28:20.360 --> 01:28:26.360]  And I told him, no, no, I'm just tightening up this motor, I scratch this avalanche, mama will kill me.
[01:28:26.360 --> 01:28:29.360]  And he said, oh, okay, I just wanted to know if you need any help.
[01:28:29.360 --> 01:28:31.360]  And he left.
[01:28:31.360 --> 01:28:41.360]  I called the sergeant and wanted to express my appreciation that this officer genuinely stopped to help me
[01:28:41.360 --> 01:28:46.360]  and did not use it as a pretext to find a reason to arrest me.
[01:28:46.360 --> 01:28:53.360]  I talked in the JP's office two years later, this big tall highway patrol guy standing there.
[01:28:53.360 --> 01:28:55.360]  Hello, Mr. Kelton.
[01:28:55.360 --> 01:28:57.360]  I looked up at him.
[01:28:57.360 --> 01:29:00.360]  He said, you don't remember me, do you?
[01:29:00.360 --> 01:29:02.360]  I said, did you arrest me?
[01:29:02.360 --> 01:29:05.360]  And about two or three other, I did.
[01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:06.360]  And the other said, I did.
[01:29:06.360 --> 01:29:07.360]  And the other said, oh, I will.
[01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:09.360]  No, no, that's okay, guys.
[01:29:09.360 --> 01:29:15.360]  Two years later, he took one look at me and knew exactly who I was.
[01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:23.360]  He compliments, giving them something back really goes a long way, especially when you're guys like us.
[01:29:23.360 --> 01:29:26.360]  They all know I'm an SOB.
[01:29:26.360 --> 01:29:29.360]  And their sergeant literally hates me.
[01:29:29.360 --> 01:29:30.360]  The JP told me that.
[01:29:30.360 --> 01:29:36.360]  And I complimented one of their guys, said it really goes a long way.
[01:29:36.360 --> 01:29:37.360]  We owe it to these guys.
[01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:44.360]  If we're going to sting them when they do wrong, we owe it to them to do the opposite when they do good.
[01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:47.360]  It makes it harder on the guys that screw up.
[01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:48.360]  Hang on, go into break.
[01:29:48.360 --> 01:30:17.360]  Randy Kelton, we'll be right back.
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[01:33:49.360 --> 01:33:54.360]  Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio, here with Damon and Casey.
[01:33:54.360 --> 01:33:59.360]  And I lost my place.
[01:33:59.360 --> 01:34:04.360]  Where were we when we went out? We had a nice lively discussion on the break.
[01:34:04.360 --> 01:34:09.360]  You guys don't get to hear the break. That's where we have all our fun.
[01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:23.360]  On the break, we were talking about how to force the police into a position to where they have a grudging respect for you.
[01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:36.360]  And when you are professional on the one side and then demanding on the other, it really puts them in a difficult position.
[01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:42.360]  Damien, you have a lot of experience with people.
[01:34:42.360 --> 01:34:53.360]  Policemen deal with people who have no experience with the police, so they don't have a really polished response sense.
[01:34:53.360 --> 01:35:06.360]  How does that affect you when someone as a police officer treats you with respect, even though he's done something wrong and you want to sting him for it?
[01:35:06.360 --> 01:35:15.360]  Well, I actually, especially on a traffic stop, sometimes that's the only time somebody sees a policeman.
[01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:19.360]  I wanted their encounter to be positive.
[01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:28.360]  And so when I would approach them, I would tell them my name, my rank, and the agency that I'm with.
[01:35:28.360 --> 01:35:36.360]  And I wouldn't ask them if they knew what they did wrong. I didn't want to put them in a bind. I'd say, the reason I'm stopping you is,
[01:35:36.360 --> 01:35:45.360]  is there anything you want to say about it, any excuse or reason that you think might be justified for this.
[01:35:45.360 --> 01:35:49.360]  And I'd actually get some really good stories.
[01:35:49.360 --> 01:35:56.360]  And I knew this joke, but one guy told me this joke.
[01:35:56.360 --> 01:36:02.360]  And it's like two o'clock in the morning, light traffic, very light in fact.
[01:36:02.360 --> 01:36:05.360]  Don't know when's your Thursday, perhaps.
[01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:11.360]  And so he says, well, you know, he said, I got pulled over one time by a highway patrolman.
[01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:12.360]  Yeah.
[01:36:12.360 --> 01:36:17.360]  And he said, and he took my wife with him.
[01:36:17.360 --> 01:36:23.360]  And he said, when I saw you back there, I thought you was him and I speeded up to get away from you.
[01:36:23.360 --> 01:36:30.360]  Well, even just the way the guy said it, even though I knew that joke, it was pretty funny.
[01:36:30.360 --> 01:36:35.360]  I said, OK, I said, well, I'm going to let you off on your comedy routine tonight.
[01:36:35.360 --> 01:36:42.360]  You're doing 15 over. Now, fortunately, there aren't many people out here. Cars are built better this day.
[01:36:42.360 --> 01:36:44.360]  And I'm going to let you go for that.
[01:36:44.360 --> 01:36:47.360]  Are you serious? Yeah, I'm serious.
[01:36:47.360 --> 01:36:56.360]  I let people talk me into tickets when I come up here. My mind is made up. I ain't going to write you a ticket unless you make me.
[01:36:56.360 --> 01:37:02.360]  Wow. Well, this older gentleman who he was, he called up to the police department.
[01:37:02.360 --> 01:37:05.360]  He lived in another place he was traveling through.
[01:37:05.360 --> 01:37:08.360]  He asked me to police. They put him through.
[01:37:08.360 --> 01:37:15.360]  He said, your sergeant is one of the most wonderful policemen I've ever dealt with in my life.
[01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:23.360]  And he said, my son is a captain with the state police and and he tells me all kind of stories.
[01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:29.360]  He says, but I really enjoyed meeting your sergeant and I think he should be commended.
[01:37:29.360 --> 01:37:38.360]  Well, about a week later, an actual letter come in from him and the chief police put it in my permanent file and gave me an accommodation.
[01:37:38.360 --> 01:37:49.360]  So, but a lot of police, like I have had guys that have been, been bad guys, really bad guys.
[01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:56.360]  Like I had a guy that really hurt his girlfriend pretty bad and he ran from me in a stolen car.
[01:37:56.360 --> 01:38:00.360]  He broke into a house more or less.
[01:38:00.360 --> 01:38:10.360]  I mean, he knew the lady, but he kind of forced his way in. He stripped naked, jumped into a box and put clothes over the top of his cell.
[01:38:10.360 --> 01:38:15.360]  And the lady really didn't want to let me in.
[01:38:15.360 --> 01:38:24.360]  But I said, man, I said, I know he's in there and I could barge through the door because he's a fleeing felon.
[01:38:24.360 --> 01:38:31.360]  But I'm trying to respect your home and I'm asking you to respect me and I'm asking you to let me in there.
[01:38:31.360 --> 01:38:33.360]  I don't want to force my way in.
[01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:37.360]  Well, that gang's respect with her and she said, yes, sir, you're right.
[01:38:37.360 --> 01:38:38.360]  Come on.
[01:38:38.360 --> 01:38:39.360]  I said, where's she at?
[01:38:39.360 --> 01:38:40.360]  She said, I don't know.
[01:38:40.360 --> 01:38:44.360]  I looked around all over the place for this guy.
[01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:48.360]  And so I found this box and I thought I saw a fraction move.
[01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:55.360]  So I had my gun in one hand because I don't know what he's doing and I had my knife stick in the other and I poked in there pretty hard.
[01:38:55.360 --> 01:38:58.360]  He said, oh, I said, you come out of there.
[01:38:58.360 --> 01:39:00.360]  And he did.
[01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:02.360]  And I said, why are you naked?
[01:39:02.360 --> 01:39:09.360]  He said, I was trying to throw all the clothes over me and I said, man, do you want to go to jail naked?
[01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:10.360]  No.
[01:39:10.360 --> 01:39:13.360]  He said, you ain't got no rights taking me naked.
[01:39:13.360 --> 01:39:17.360]  I said, you're probably right.
[01:39:17.360 --> 01:39:20.360]  I said, you know, I said, you really made me pretty angry.
[01:39:20.360 --> 01:39:23.360]  You caused me to almost have an accident.
[01:39:23.360 --> 01:39:25.360]  You frightened this lady.
[01:39:25.360 --> 01:39:28.360]  You're just a bad guy.
[01:39:28.360 --> 01:39:36.360]  And I said, but yeah, you get dressed and and he actually, you know, basically surrendered.
[01:39:36.360 --> 01:39:44.360]  And the guy on the way to jail told me, you know, he said, you treated me better than I treated you.
[01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:47.360]  I said, I agree with that.
[01:39:47.360 --> 01:39:49.360]  That seems to be a fact to me.
[01:39:49.360 --> 01:39:54.360]  He said, well, I don't know, but if you ever need something, you call on me and I'll do it.
[01:39:54.360 --> 01:40:07.360]  And that guy actually was arrested two or three times, went to the penitentiary and one day I was on a traffic stop and a guy had knocked me down and we were tussling fat dead warrants.
[01:40:07.360 --> 01:40:19.360]  And that same guy had just got out of prison, he come whipping up behind my car, he run out there and smack that guy straight in the face and knocked him out.
[01:40:19.360 --> 01:40:22.360]  That's the same guy now.
[01:40:22.360 --> 01:40:25.360]  And I, and I said, his name was Vincent.
[01:40:25.360 --> 01:40:26.360]  I said, Vincent.
[01:40:26.360 --> 01:40:27.360]  Well, he did that.
[01:40:27.360 --> 01:40:34.360]  He said, I just got back home and I was looking for you to ask back and I turned my ways and you got my respect, Mr. Jones.
[01:40:34.360 --> 01:40:37.360]  I said, obviously, you're not this man.
[01:40:37.360 --> 01:40:42.360]  I was afraid he's going to get your gun and shoot you.
[01:40:42.360 --> 01:40:44.360]  That is a cool story.
[01:40:44.360 --> 01:40:49.360]  Yes.
[01:40:49.360 --> 01:40:55.360]  One of the things with this show is, you know, we, this is a show in legal reform.
[01:40:55.360 --> 01:41:11.360]  And we get people who are angry at the system and I've taken a lot of slack because I just can't reasonably bring myself to vilify the villain that by the police.
[01:41:11.360 --> 01:41:13.360]  They're not the bad guys.
[01:41:13.360 --> 01:41:14.360]  What?
[01:41:14.360 --> 01:41:16.360]  Sure, there's some out.
[01:41:16.360 --> 01:41:19.360]  Everything's a learning process.
[01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:26.360]  I doubt there's a single policeman out there that hasn't done something he wishes he hadn't done.
[01:41:26.360 --> 01:41:27.360]  Yes, sir.
[01:41:27.360 --> 01:41:32.360]  Every time one does something he later wishes he hadn't done.
[01:41:32.360 --> 01:41:35.360]  Everybody hears about it.
[01:41:35.360 --> 01:41:43.360]  But the times he does things right, the times they come in and risk their life to help people.
[01:41:43.360 --> 01:41:46.360]  And we just expect that that's your job.
[01:41:46.360 --> 01:41:49.360]  Say, no, no, no, it's your job to keep the peace.
[01:41:49.360 --> 01:41:51.360]  It's not your job to die.
[01:41:51.360 --> 01:42:04.360]  The policeman risked their life sort of regular basis and being a combat that I know what it's like to run into fire and policemen do it all the time.
[01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:15.360]  So while we have to help them become better at their jobs, we don't have to hate them in the process.
[01:42:15.360 --> 01:42:21.360]  You know, on the show, I think of my public officials the way I do my grandkids.
[01:42:21.360 --> 01:42:24.360]  I love them dearly.
[01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:31.360]  But if one of them runs out in the road, I'm fixing to tan his hide.
[01:42:31.360 --> 01:42:33.360]  But it's not because I dislike them.
[01:42:33.360 --> 01:42:35.360]  I just want him to be better.
[01:42:35.360 --> 01:42:44.360]  And if we think that way about police, the guys who are really bad policemen make some crazy.
[01:42:44.360 --> 01:42:52.360]  I've told on the show about a bay leaf once broke my elbow, pushed me out of the door as I was leaving the courthouse.
[01:42:52.360 --> 01:42:59.360]  And my foot hit a carpet there and came out from under me and I fell down backwards on a granite step and broke my elbow.
[01:42:59.360 --> 01:43:02.360]  Well, he did not mean to do that.
[01:43:02.360 --> 01:43:05.360]  But he was absolutely liable.
[01:43:05.360 --> 01:43:09.360]  He would have had no argument and no defense.
[01:43:09.360 --> 01:43:18.360]  But since I couldn't frame that in a way that would lead me toward my ultimate outcome, I didn't go after him.
[01:43:18.360 --> 01:43:25.360]  And that dramatically changed everybody's opinion about me.
[01:43:25.360 --> 01:43:28.360]  You do the right thing for the right reason.
[01:43:28.360 --> 01:43:30.360]  If it's hard, we do it hard.
[01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:34.360]  If it's easy, we do it easy, it's easy, but we get it done.
[01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:40.360]  If you only do the right thing for the right reason, it always comes back to you.
[01:43:40.360 --> 01:43:44.360]  Enough preaching. We're about to go to break.
[01:43:44.360 --> 01:43:49.360]  I think when we come back, I'll take some calls. We've got two callers on the line.
[01:43:49.360 --> 01:44:00.360]  We'll take some calls when we come back. We'll be right back.
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[01:46:24.360 --> 01:46:46.360]  Okay, we are back.
[01:46:46.360 --> 01:46:51.360]  Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, and we're going to go to some callers.
[01:46:51.360 --> 01:47:01.360]  I know it's the last segment, but this was just too interesting a show to interrupt with calls, but we're close to the end.
[01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:09.360]  Shane, what do you have for us? Do you have a question on point for our guests?
[01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:10.360]  Randy, can you hear me?
[01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:12.360]  I can hear you.
[01:47:12.360 --> 01:47:15.360]  Okay, how's this? Is it okay service?
[01:47:15.360 --> 01:47:16.360]  Yes, yes, you sound good.
[01:47:16.360 --> 01:47:20.360]  Okay, I'm just, I'm in my car phone right now. I'm just heading home.
[01:47:20.360 --> 01:47:29.360]  Oh, it's fantastic. I just didn't know, you know, that these things actually really happen in the real world only in the movies.
[01:47:29.360 --> 01:47:33.360]  But yeah, I was really kind of shocked actually.
[01:47:33.360 --> 01:47:39.360]  Well, when you get home, look up First Amendment audits on YouTube.
[01:47:39.360 --> 01:47:40.360]  Okay.
[01:47:40.360 --> 01:47:48.360]  These guys are insane. It was wonderful.
[01:47:48.360 --> 01:47:53.360]  I will only take up three minutes, maybe four minutes of your time. I'll be real quick to the point.
[01:47:53.360 --> 01:48:03.360]  As you know, this bankruptcy case is going on. I stopped the foreclosure for my mom's house and I ran down there today and filed my schedules E&F today.
[01:48:03.360 --> 01:48:10.360]  But I also pull out a certified copy of the mortgage, a notice of mortgage payment.
[01:48:10.360 --> 01:48:20.360]  I don't even have a mortgage with Key Bank and I filed a notice of mortgage into my bankruptcy case or trying to like force my hand to add it into the plan.
[01:48:20.360 --> 01:48:28.360]  And I did not add the plan. I filed all my schedules today. I only got two more to file, just income and my plan.
[01:48:28.360 --> 01:48:37.360]  But I did pull a certified copy to file an objection and a motion and maybe a possible lawsuit.
[01:48:37.360 --> 01:48:40.360]  Did you bar grieve the lawyer for filing it?
[01:48:40.360 --> 01:48:47.360]  Well, it's not a lawyer. It's actually an authorization for the bank.
[01:48:47.360 --> 01:48:56.360]  No, no, no, no. The bank is a corporation. They can't come to court. They have to have a lawyer come to court.
[01:48:56.360 --> 01:49:06.360]  Yeah, the lawyer did not sign it. It was directly from the bank itself. But yeah, as soon as they enter notice, I will go ahead and file a bar immediately.
[01:49:06.360 --> 01:49:16.360]  Okay. And if someone signed it other than a lawyer, then file a motion and ask for sanctions. You won't get sanctions.
[01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:24.360]  But when you file for sanctions, if this guy is not a lawyer, it's going to scare a poop out of him.
[01:49:24.360 --> 01:49:27.360]  It's all about politics.
[01:49:27.360 --> 01:49:30.360]  Yeah, you're right about that. You're absolutely 100 percent right.
[01:49:30.360 --> 01:49:43.360]  But I just wanted to just let you know that I did go down there and get a certified copy of the actual notice of mortgage payment so they can't alter the docket or change it later on down the road.
[01:49:43.360 --> 01:49:51.360]  And that's pretty much all I want to tell you. My hearing doesn't come up until September 3rd for 341.
[01:49:51.360 --> 01:50:01.360]  Okay. How relevant is the issue of this alleged mortgage payment?
[01:50:01.360 --> 01:50:17.360]  The reason I'm going there is if it is a relevant issue, if it affects the tribunal in any way, and it's not true, you should go after the five minute fragmented perjury.
[01:50:17.360 --> 01:50:29.360]  Again, the court is not going to pursue, but depending on how aggressive you want to be, you file aggravated perjury with the court.
[01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:41.360]  And if the court doesn't act on the aggravated perjury, then you can file misprison of felony against the judge. See how he likes that.
[01:50:41.360 --> 01:50:50.360]  Yeah, I've been looking up the rules. It looks like from what I'm reading here, Randy, you have to file a proof of claim before you can even file a notice of mortgage.
[01:50:50.360 --> 01:50:58.360]  They have nobody's, the docket sheet, as I'm looking at it right now, is completely blank. There are no proof of claims filed.
[01:50:58.360 --> 01:51:05.360]  But the aggravated perjury sounds like a route I will definitely look into, but I'm going to be filing something next week.
[01:51:05.360 --> 01:51:11.360]  That's just for the annoyance factor. You want to raise the bar for them.
[01:51:11.360 --> 01:51:13.360]  Yes.
[01:51:13.360 --> 01:51:25.360]  And then if the judge refuses to act on it, that becomes a big deal. I doubt that this federal judge has ever been charged with misprison of felony.
[01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:26.360]  Yeah.
[01:51:26.360 --> 01:51:32.360]  In misprison of felony, 18 U.S. Code 4.
[01:51:32.360 --> 01:51:39.360]  It's not 18 U.S. Code 9267 or something, something way down there in the back. It's right up there at the front.
[01:51:39.360 --> 01:51:46.360]  And 18 U.S. Code 3 has been repealed, so it's the third one.
[01:51:46.360 --> 01:51:54.360]  And the judge has a duty when you give him that criminal affidavit that invokes his duty as a magistrate.
[01:51:54.360 --> 01:51:56.360]  Well, that's something I was going to ask.
[01:51:56.360 --> 01:51:58.360]  They forgive their magistrates.
[01:51:58.360 --> 01:52:11.360]  What I'm just going to ask you is, if I walked into September 3rd into the hearing and had a criminal complaint filed against this particular individual for key banking and hand delivered to him in open court,
[01:52:11.360 --> 01:52:15.360]  because I'm going to have a hearing that says the trustee has already filed a motion to dismiss for felony prosecution.
[01:52:15.360 --> 01:52:19.360]  Well, that'll be moved because all of them are informed by that time.
[01:52:19.360 --> 01:52:32.360]  Okay, I'm kind of losing you there, but if you walked in and handed a verified criminal affidavit to the bailiff and haven't given it to the judge, you have changed the tribunal.
[01:52:32.360 --> 01:52:41.360]  The judges really don't get this, but you have taken the judge's hat off and put a magistrate's hat on the judge.
[01:52:41.360 --> 01:52:49.360]  And that invokes a duty he has when he fails to perform that duty. You got 18 U.S. Code 242.
[01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:54.360]  And just because he's a judge, he don't get out from under it.
[01:52:54.360 --> 01:53:00.360]  You should have seen what happened when I filed criminal charges against Judge McBride in Fort Worth.
[01:53:00.360 --> 01:53:05.360]  Oh my goodness, that was so much fun.
[01:53:05.360 --> 01:53:10.360]  Randy, weren't you at your criminal complaints file?
[01:53:10.360 --> 01:53:17.360]  We have secret police now. If you go to the FBI, they won't identify themselves.
[01:53:17.360 --> 01:53:31.360]  Philadelphia, I'm giving notice. Someone on my show gave me an affidavit that they had watched a grisly murder in the jail in Barrett County, that's San Antonio.
[01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:34.360]  It was grisly.
[01:53:34.360 --> 01:53:44.360]  I'm trying to give it to the FBI. And I asked the agent what his name was, young guy.
[01:53:44.360 --> 01:53:49.360]  Ducked his head, his face turned red, and clearly he was mortified by this.
[01:53:49.360 --> 01:53:54.360]  And he said, we're not allowed to identify ourselves.
[01:53:54.360 --> 01:53:57.360]  And he had on this really ugly blue tie.
[01:53:57.360 --> 01:54:04.360]  I said, so what do I call you, secret agent blue tie?
[01:54:04.360 --> 01:54:09.360]  And Deborah was there, and she almost fell out on the floor.
[01:54:09.360 --> 01:54:12.360]  The guy was absolutely mortified.
[01:54:12.360 --> 01:54:15.360]  So the FBI are now secret police.
[01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:23.360]  The only FBI agent whose name you can access is a special agent in charge.
[01:54:23.360 --> 01:54:27.360]  You file this with a special agent in charge.
[01:54:27.360 --> 01:54:32.360]  Then there is 28 U.S. Code 353.
[01:54:32.360 --> 01:54:37.360]  28 Code 353, none of them even know it exists.
[01:54:37.360 --> 01:54:43.360]  But it is a, what do you call it?
[01:54:43.360 --> 01:54:46.360]  I lost the term, were you?
[01:54:46.360 --> 01:54:58.360]  No, it's where you tell on somebody the law that protects you from being backlashed when you retaliation.
[01:54:58.360 --> 01:55:00.360]  No, I'll think of it as a second.
[01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:10.360]  But anyway, what it says is that if a federal employee has knowledge that another federal employee has violated law,
[01:55:10.360 --> 01:55:15.360]  then he is to give notice to the U.S. Attorney General.
[01:55:15.360 --> 01:55:19.360]  It's a whistleblower, it's a whistleblower statute.
[01:55:19.360 --> 01:55:32.360]  Well, the U.S. FBI agent, he don't think that applies to him, but I haven't seen anything that extents him.
[01:55:32.360 --> 01:55:46.360]  So when I put in a request to the Attorney General for that notice and I don't get it, then I file against the special agent in charge of the FBI with the prosecuting attorney.
[01:55:46.360 --> 01:55:54.360]  Well, actually, I send it to the Foreman of the Grand Jury and the prosecuting attorney will intercept it.
[01:55:54.360 --> 01:56:00.360]  Well, you send it to the Foreman, return receipt restricted.
[01:56:00.360 --> 01:56:04.360]  That means only the Foreman, the person named, can sign for it.
[01:56:04.360 --> 01:56:12.360]  And for five bucks extra, you can insure it for five other bucks.
[01:56:12.360 --> 01:56:22.360]  And you put a cover letter in the complaint that asks the Foreman to initial this document and send it back to me.
[01:56:22.360 --> 01:56:31.360]  Don't sign it because the U.S. Attorney has a rubber stamp with your name on it and we want to make sure he didn't rubber stamp it.
[01:56:31.360 --> 01:56:34.360]  Well, you don't get that letter back.
[01:56:34.360 --> 01:56:37.360]  Then you file criminal charges.
[01:56:37.360 --> 01:56:41.360]  The first thing you do is you file a complaint with the postal inspectors.
[01:56:41.360 --> 01:56:45.360]  You want your 500 bucks.
[01:56:45.360 --> 01:56:48.360]  It's going to get real ugly down there.
[01:56:48.360 --> 01:56:59.360]  Then you file the second complaint the same way against the U.S. Attorney accusing him of tampering with a government document by shielding the complaint from the Grand Jury.
[01:56:59.360 --> 01:57:04.360]  That's when it gets interesting.
[01:57:04.360 --> 01:57:06.360]  Sound like fun, Shane?
[01:57:06.360 --> 01:57:08.360]  I love this kind of stuff.
[01:57:08.360 --> 01:57:13.360]  You said originally you said 28 USD section 353, correct?
[01:57:13.360 --> 01:57:14.360]  Yes.
[01:57:14.360 --> 01:57:21.360]  See the 353 or 535?
[01:57:21.360 --> 01:57:24.360]  Well, 535 is investigation of crime.
[01:57:24.360 --> 01:57:25.360]  There it is.
[01:57:25.360 --> 01:57:26.360]  Okay, got it.
[01:57:26.360 --> 01:57:27.360]  Got it.
[01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:28.360]  Okay, that's it.
[01:57:28.360 --> 01:57:29.360]  535.
[01:57:29.360 --> 01:57:33.360]  I love those little ones nobody knows anything about.
[01:57:33.360 --> 01:57:39.360]  But on another show, I'll talk about the whole procedure to walk through the fence.
[01:57:39.360 --> 01:57:41.360]  Everything we do is about politics.
[01:57:41.360 --> 01:57:43.360]  So you create all this politics.
[01:57:43.360 --> 01:57:48.360]  You get a complaint against the cop on the bottom, and you take that complaint to a magistrate.
[01:57:48.360 --> 01:57:49.360]  He refuses to take it.
[01:57:49.360 --> 01:57:54.360]  So then you take a complaint against the magistrate to the sheriff, and he refuses to act.
[01:57:54.360 --> 01:57:59.360]  And then the prosecutor, the county judge, the district judge.
[01:57:59.360 --> 01:58:07.360]  And once you get it in the attorney general, and then I like to send them to the Chief Justice of the Supreme in the state.
[01:58:07.360 --> 01:58:19.360]  And then when he refuses to act, I file against the Chief Justice of the Supreme with the SAC and the local special agent charge of the FBI,
[01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:22.360]  and then run the same routine on the FBI.
[01:58:22.360 --> 01:58:26.360]  It's a little bit different with the FBI, with the feds.
[01:58:26.360 --> 01:58:30.360]  But you can walk it all the way up to the U.S. Attorney General.
[01:58:30.360 --> 01:58:37.360]  You'll probably never get him indicted or before a grand jury, but you will create so much politics.
[01:58:37.360 --> 01:58:40.360]  These guys will go crazy.
[01:58:40.360 --> 01:58:42.360]  Thank you all for listening.
[01:58:42.360 --> 01:58:44.360]  We are out of time.
[01:58:44.360 --> 01:58:48.360]  We'll be back next week, and hoping we all have some more good guests.
[01:58:48.360 --> 01:58:50.360]  Good night.
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