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[00:50.920 --> 00:58.480] In recent news, Robert David Steele, listed on Wikipedia as a former CIA clandestine [00:58.480 --> 01:03.480] service case officer, was a guest on InfoWars Alex Jones Show, where he claimed last Thursday [01:03.480 --> 01:08.240] that NASA is not only operating colonies on Mars, but populating those colonies with kidnapped [01:08.240 --> 01:09.400] children slaves. [01:09.400 --> 01:14.800] Jones weighed in on NASA during the program, stating that 90% of NASA's missions are secret, [01:14.800 --> 01:19.240] and I've been told by higher-level NASA engineers, he said, that you have no idea. [01:19.240 --> 01:22.920] What seems even more out of this world is NASA responding to the Alex Jones Show with [01:22.920 --> 01:27.720] NASA spokesperson Guy Webster telling the Daily Beast the same day that, quote, there [01:27.720 --> 01:32.400] are no humans on Mars, there are active rovers on Mars, there was a rumor going around last [01:32.400 --> 01:35.720] week that there weren't, but there are, but there are no humans. [01:35.720 --> 01:42.440] It seems InfoWars and Alex Jones are being listened to by a lot of important people. [01:42.440 --> 01:46.640] The University of Exeter released a new study by Professor Charles Tyler, which catalogs [01:46.640 --> 01:50.960] how male freshwater fish in Britain are turning into females due to the chemicals released [01:50.960 --> 01:56.400] into the water from birth control pills, cosmetic makeup, cleaning agents and plastics all being [01:56.400 --> 01:58.160] flushed down the drains. [01:58.160 --> 02:02.920] The study found that one-fifth of males, or 20% of the male fish population, were now [02:02.920 --> 02:08.040] showing feminine traits, including producing eggs, reduced sperm counts, and less aggressive [02:08.040 --> 02:09.040] behavior. [02:09.040 --> 02:12.920] Professor Tyler stated that, quote, we are showing that some of these chemicals can have [02:12.920 --> 02:16.200] much wider health effects in fish than we expected. [02:16.200 --> 02:20.120] You can specially create a transgenic fish that allows us to see response to these chemicals [02:20.120 --> 02:22.360] in the bodies of the fish in real time. [02:22.360 --> 02:27.160] For example, we have shown that estrogens found in some plastics affect the valves in [02:27.160 --> 02:28.320] the heart. [02:28.320 --> 02:32.640] Other research has shown that many other chemicals that are being discharged through sewage treatment [02:32.640 --> 02:38.200] works can affect fish, including antidepressant drugs that reduce the natural shyness of [02:38.200 --> 02:41.560] some fish species, including the way they react to predators. [02:41.560 --> 02:47.160] The Lone Star Lowdown is currently for sponsors, to have a product or a service you like to [02:47.160 --> 02:53.160] advertise with us, feel free to give me a call at 210-363-2257. [02:53.160 --> 03:16.160] This was Rick Brody with your Lowdown for July 3rd, 2017. [03:16.160 --> 03:24.080] Okay, we are back, ready to count, move our radio, and we're going back to Ken, and don't [03:24.080 --> 03:26.440] worry, he's getting to the point. [03:26.440 --> 03:28.080] This was the setup. [03:28.080 --> 03:29.080] You better like this. [03:29.080 --> 03:30.080] Go ahead, Ken. [03:30.080 --> 03:39.600] Well, so what we have is we found a case in Texas, finally, called X-Bart HRC that was [03:39.600 --> 03:49.320] decided in 1977, that clearly says that in cases involving arrest without warrant, you [03:49.320 --> 03:54.920] clearly have to take the person of the magistrate, the magistrate, will perform an examining [03:54.920 --> 03:58.400] file, and this happens even for misdemeanor cases. [03:58.400 --> 04:04.640] We found no cases citing Garcia, subsequent to its initial determination. [04:04.640 --> 04:09.640] So there are some issues as to why this is happening, and apparently, even within the [04:09.640 --> 04:16.720] legal community, there can become urban or legal legends of process in which nobody's [04:16.720 --> 04:24.600] really doing any of the heavy research work, and this was turned up by just serendipitous [04:24.600 --> 04:30.280] research by an individual who was not known for doing decent research, and he found this [04:30.280 --> 04:36.680] case just accidentally, according to Lance Morris, that would be the definition of the [04:36.680 --> 04:39.120] blind squirrel doctor. [04:39.120 --> 04:47.160] So the issue of writing pleadings and cases is to make sure you've got the case and don't [04:47.160 --> 04:52.360] ever cite a portion of the case without actually reading the whole case. [04:52.360 --> 04:59.040] You want to get the context of how the case is written and make sure there aren't any [04:59.040 --> 05:08.440] pending opinions or anything that would dilute the particular quote you're seeing. [05:08.440 --> 05:13.080] The problem that I've seen is that this has been happening through the 27 years I've been [05:13.080 --> 05:18.120] involved in legal reform where people cite bits and pieces out of cases and code, and [05:18.120 --> 05:21.280] I think it applies to everybody globally, and it doesn't. [05:21.280 --> 05:27.400] You have to connect the dots, and they've got to be connected with code and cases that [05:27.400 --> 05:29.440] are absolutely applicable. [05:29.440 --> 05:35.600] The other thing that happens in some of those citations is that people make assumptions, [05:35.600 --> 05:39.440] and that's where these other things are being cited. [05:39.440 --> 05:43.040] And some of the urban legends out there that have been rearing their head is about the [05:43.040 --> 05:48.440] idea of the states are all incorporated. [05:48.440 --> 05:54.360] I've been coming across this for, you know, 27 years, and the issue is that every time [05:54.360 --> 05:59.040] somebody sends me something about this, I ask them, well, if they're talking about these [05:59.040 --> 06:05.160] as corporations that do business in commerce, show me the corporate charter, show me the [06:05.160 --> 06:10.200] board of directors, show me their annual report, and nobody ever has. [06:10.200 --> 06:15.400] Well, recently I came across this again, so I went ahead and made some calls because they [06:15.400 --> 06:22.560] say, oh, they incorporate Delaware because they get better tax consideration in Delaware. [06:22.560 --> 06:25.640] And for a business corporation, that's true. [06:25.640 --> 06:32.440] But the issue is that the fact that we use the word corporation to describe business [06:32.440 --> 06:38.840] entities doesn't mean that just because I incorporate chocolate chips into my cookie [06:38.840 --> 06:43.440] dough that my chocolate chip cookies are incorporated. [06:43.440 --> 06:51.280] So I contacted the Secretary of State's office in Delaware and asked a number of people about [06:51.280 --> 06:52.280] this issue. [06:52.280 --> 06:55.080] They had never heard about this urban legend or whatever. [06:55.080 --> 06:58.200] So apparently nobody has contacted them before. [06:58.200 --> 07:01.840] And this is only on a preliminary level at this point in time. [07:01.840 --> 07:08.400] And they found no indication that there were any, the indication of what they allowed to [07:08.400 --> 07:14.120] incorporate at the Secretary of State in Delaware is business corporation. [07:14.120 --> 07:16.640] So they don't have any state agencies listed. [07:16.640 --> 07:22.480] As a matter of fact, I went out there to check on the names availability of various corporations [07:22.480 --> 07:23.800] and I found several. [07:23.800 --> 07:28.000] I checked Dallas County, Texas. [07:28.000 --> 07:29.000] It's available. [07:29.000 --> 07:34.000] So we could incorporate Dallas County, Texas, Inc. in Delaware because the name is available. [07:34.000 --> 07:40.320] We could incorporate state of Texas, Inc. in Delaware because that name is available [07:40.320 --> 07:43.680] because it doesn't exist yet as a corporation in Delaware. [07:43.680 --> 07:49.520] I could incorporate the Supreme Court of Texas in Delaware because that name doesn't exist [07:49.520 --> 07:51.200] in the corporate record either. [07:51.200 --> 07:54.880] So the people who've got the various public entities, and I'm going to tell you, I'm not [07:54.880 --> 07:59.160] going to go through the whole list of every county and every municipality in the state [07:59.160 --> 08:01.400] to prove that this doesn't happen. [08:01.400 --> 08:08.560] Now, part of this rumor or legal legend has been started by the fact that people come [08:08.560 --> 08:13.320] across reports by Dianne Bradstreet. [08:13.320 --> 08:20.560] So I've always known because I used to use Dianne Bradstreet to do research for papers [08:20.560 --> 08:24.800] when I went to college and I knew what Dianne Bradstreet was. [08:24.800 --> 08:31.960] So anyway, I was looking at one of the Dianne Bradstreet reports on a state agency, the [08:31.960 --> 08:34.600] Tennessee Supreme Court. [08:34.600 --> 08:40.880] And it shows clearly, you know, in one line there it says, Inc. and it shows corporation [08:40.880 --> 08:49.200] and it was incorporated in, as I recall, 1792, which is when the state of Tennessee essentially [08:49.200 --> 08:51.400] was created. [08:51.400 --> 08:56.920] So the issue is that one of the conversations I had with the Dianne Bradstreet researcher, [08:56.920 --> 09:01.640] who got really excited about this, this was something new for him to research. [09:01.640 --> 09:05.560] So he's interested in doing it, and I'm going to contact him back to get more information. [09:05.560 --> 09:11.280] One of the things that he and I discussed was the whole idea of corporations in general. [09:11.280 --> 09:20.320] Everybody remembers the East Indian Company during the Spice Wars of Europe, where everybody [09:20.320 --> 09:21.320] was incorporating. [09:21.320 --> 09:30.840] And the whole idea of incorporation or creating a company into which you sell stock was new. [09:30.840 --> 09:34.640] And I was started in Europe and then it was continued over into the United States. [09:34.640 --> 09:40.480] So I picked, for random, I went ahead and picked one of the oldest corporations or companies [09:40.480 --> 09:44.160] in the United States, which is DuPont. [09:44.160 --> 09:50.640] So we did some looking up on DuPont when I say we, the researcher from Dianne Bradstreet. [09:50.640 --> 09:56.240] And what we found was DuPont was created in 1802 in Wilmington, Delaware. [09:56.240 --> 10:01.320] And they sold stock and they indicated, you know, what kind of business they were in. [10:01.320 --> 10:07.120] And for those that didn't know, they made gunpowder for the United States government. [10:07.120 --> 10:12.040] So the issue became, well, what was the entity in 1802? [10:12.040 --> 10:13.640] Well, it was just a company. [10:13.640 --> 10:20.280] There wasn't dot ink after it, because frankly, dot ink companies didn't start existing until [10:20.280 --> 10:22.120] the late 1800s. [10:22.120 --> 10:31.120] And we find out that DuPont is an incorporated comic ink in Delaware until, like, 1980. [10:31.120 --> 10:33.760] I believe that was the time period. [10:33.760 --> 10:37.120] I could be off by plus or minus a year. [10:37.120 --> 10:42.760] But that issue is that the corporation, or the use of the word corporation, the government [10:42.760 --> 10:50.200] entities occurred long before the business entities of commerce were created, like IBM [10:50.200 --> 10:54.680] or Microsoft or General Electric, and the list goes on and on and on. [10:54.680 --> 11:01.160] So the issue here is that there are corporate entities that are not, not businesses. [11:01.160 --> 11:07.880] And they had that name and they had that structure prior to a lot of the other corporations [11:07.880 --> 11:09.040] that were created. [11:09.040 --> 11:10.400] And they're apples and oranges. [11:10.400 --> 11:17.200] The report on the Dianne Bradstreet report on the Supreme Court of Tennessee was basically [11:17.200 --> 11:24.240] a credit report, it listed no stockholders, it listed no debt-to-equity ratio, it indicated [11:24.240 --> 11:30.720] no amount of business that they did, it didn't talk about profits. [11:30.720 --> 11:38.720] The whole list of things that you would normally see for a commerce entity didn't exist. [11:38.720 --> 11:44.120] But there was something interesting the researcher pointed out called an SIC number, and that's [11:44.120 --> 11:47.680] called a Standard and Industrial Code. [11:47.680 --> 11:54.760] And that was created, and there's some position on my part, about the same time as the securities [11:54.760 --> 11:59.000] and exchange commission was created in the 1930s. [11:59.000 --> 12:06.720] That was after the stock market crash, which everybody was getting into this stocking bonds [12:06.720 --> 12:11.760] and creating all these new negotiable instruments, and there was a lot of fraud associated with [12:11.760 --> 12:12.760] this. [12:12.760 --> 12:15.080] That's why the SEC was created. [12:15.080 --> 12:21.360] So I have a feeling that they created some of the standardized coding in order to describe [12:21.360 --> 12:26.120] these industries so people couldn't lie as to what they did. [12:26.120 --> 12:32.480] So when you get a prospectus on a company that you might want to invest for larger entities [12:32.480 --> 12:36.560] might want to actually purchase, you get the details of it. [12:36.560 --> 12:43.280] The SIC number for the Supreme Court of Tennessee was in the 9,000. [12:43.280 --> 12:53.960] All the 9,000s are listed in the SEC index as public administration. [12:53.960 --> 13:01.080] They were the last code created and they are applied to government entities that are reported [13:01.080 --> 13:08.000] by Dunn and Bradstreet because Dunn and Bradstreet originally didn't report any of these. [13:08.000 --> 13:12.680] That's a recent, well I say recent, maybe the last 30 years they started reporting these [13:12.680 --> 13:16.840] entities because they started using negotiable instruments. [13:16.840 --> 13:22.000] They started purchasing bonds and taking out loans in order to expand their courtrooms [13:22.000 --> 13:26.800] or buy more resources or possibly buy computers. [13:26.800 --> 13:31.760] So they had to have their credit worthiness tested for a place where at least somebody [13:31.760 --> 13:37.640] could see what they were as an entity and see okay, they meet the basic requirements [13:37.640 --> 13:40.680] that we need in order for us to loan them money. [13:40.680 --> 13:44.680] So that's what they list government entities. [13:44.680 --> 13:46.920] It doesn't mean they're commerce corporations. [13:46.920 --> 13:53.920] So they're listed on Dunn and Bradstreet and I've heard this before but they're not listed [13:53.920 --> 14:00.000] as a corporation, they're listed as an administration. [14:00.000 --> 14:02.360] That's a good point. [14:02.360 --> 14:10.520] They do say at Dunn and Bradstreet Corporation but it's an arbitrary title given by Dunn [14:10.520 --> 14:16.440] and Bradstreet because they look at an entity that put together formally as a corporation [14:16.440 --> 14:23.360] and that term corporation was applied to government entities long before it was ever applied to [14:23.360 --> 14:25.800] the business entities in the United States. [14:25.800 --> 14:33.760] Because you had a criminal court, a civil court, a police, a sheriff's office, a constable's [14:33.760 --> 14:41.640] office all incorporated into a county or incorporated into a state administration. [14:41.640 --> 14:42.640] Right. [14:42.640 --> 14:46.120] That's what we're seeing at this point. [14:46.120 --> 14:54.720] A different meaning of the term incorporated, incorporated in the gathering things together [14:54.720 --> 15:00.520] perspective instead of the business entity perspective. [15:00.520 --> 15:03.520] Correct. [15:03.520 --> 15:11.400] So to quote the warden from Coohan, Luke, what we have here, Spalier. [15:11.400 --> 15:15.720] Spalier to Coohan. [15:15.720 --> 15:19.760] And I find this is often the case. [15:19.760 --> 15:25.960] And this is one thing we warn people about here is they don't use English in court. [15:25.960 --> 15:29.320] They use English. [15:29.320 --> 15:33.720] It only appears to sound like English. [15:33.720 --> 15:34.720] You have to be careful. [15:34.720 --> 15:39.240] And you have to be pedantic which is what I do. [15:39.240 --> 15:47.680] And another example of this kind of back and forth and devil's advocate kind of thing was [15:47.680 --> 15:52.480] my colleague Lance Ford had a case he was researching and he said, okay, well, here's [15:52.480 --> 15:54.440] the order of the court. [15:54.440 --> 16:01.760] This judge has been stricken by a statute and he said, okay, where's that motion? [16:01.760 --> 16:04.280] Okay, there's that motion. [16:04.280 --> 16:08.560] The court ruled anyway, even though the judge had been stricken under the rule, was there [16:08.560 --> 16:13.160] an exception to the rule, and we looked at the rule, not the rule of code, different [16:13.160 --> 16:18.560] between rule and code, even though they theoretically are supposed to have the same effect. [16:18.560 --> 16:22.080] So we looked at the back here. [16:22.080 --> 16:30.040] The rule is promulgated by an agency to affect the intent of the court. [16:30.040 --> 16:31.040] Right. [16:31.040 --> 16:39.280] But they have to be given permission to promulgate regulations or instructions from the legislation. [16:39.280 --> 16:43.800] And I have to have permission to run off the cliff at the end of the segment. [16:43.800 --> 16:45.880] So I'm not going to do that this time. [16:45.880 --> 16:46.880] Hang on. [16:46.880 --> 16:48.880] Ready to count and rule our radio. [16:48.880 --> 16:53.240] I call in number 512-646-1984. 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[19:37.880 --> 19:39.880] Everything you know, you will see. [19:39.880 --> 19:41.880] Okay, we are back. [19:41.880 --> 19:48.880] Welcome to Kelton Rule of Law Radio and we have our special pedantic guest on Mr. K. Magnuson. [19:48.880 --> 19:52.880] Okay, Ken, have we... [19:52.880 --> 19:55.880] Yeah, we've pretty much covered it. [19:55.880 --> 20:06.880] I'm still going to do more research on this to find out, try to figure out where the origination of these legal myths have come from. [20:06.880 --> 20:19.880] But this one has raised its ugly head again and the problem is that the reason it's important for me to bring this stuff is you're going to look really foolish if you're going into court. [20:19.880 --> 20:22.880] You cite law that you don't understand fully. [20:22.880 --> 20:27.880] Cite law that you've only read a paragraph of. [20:27.880 --> 20:33.880] You cite law out of legal encyclopedias. [20:33.880 --> 20:39.880] You make propositions that various government entities are incorporated. [20:39.880 --> 20:41.880] That's fine, but they are. [20:41.880 --> 20:42.880] Show it. [20:42.880 --> 20:57.880] I mean, if anybody out there can find the actual filings in Delaware of a state entity in Texas and can find who the corporate directors were originally, how much stock was issued, where their annual report is. [20:57.880 --> 21:04.880] That's kind of corporation they are. [21:04.880 --> 21:10.880] Find those things, which we would expect to be for IBM or General Electric or Microsoft. [21:10.880 --> 21:12.880] But I'm finding nobody finding that. [21:12.880 --> 21:19.880] I'm asking people to do it and they just want to believe this myth because I'm not sure why they want to believe this myth. [21:19.880 --> 21:29.880] So I'm still collecting information to find out if there's some misinformation that's coming from the state that gives people the wrong impression or just incomplete research. [21:29.880 --> 21:34.880] And I'm, at this point in time, I'm leaning towards believing the latter. [21:34.880 --> 21:39.880] I've seen a lot of people do legal research and just not finish the process. [21:39.880 --> 21:42.880] So that's the last thing I want to do, reading code. [21:42.880 --> 21:45.880] You read code and you read something that sounds really good. [21:45.880 --> 21:52.880] Read the whole code because at the end of the code, a chapter or a section or whatever, they may have exemptions. [21:52.880 --> 21:56.880] This code does not apply to this and this and this and this and this. [21:56.880 --> 22:00.880] And almost nobody ever gets down to that last part of the code. [22:00.880 --> 22:19.880] And that's my biggest frustration here is I have people acting in the best of faith without the discipline to do the complete research. [22:19.880 --> 22:34.880] They truly believe that what they're expounding is true, but they don't have the sophistication and the discipline or the research methods to ensure that they're not making horrendous errors. [22:34.880 --> 22:40.880] Speaking of horrendous errors, we've got Scott from Texas on. [22:40.880 --> 22:44.880] That's not fair. [22:44.880 --> 22:49.880] Scott gets no slack around here. [22:49.880 --> 22:50.880] I know. [22:50.880 --> 22:53.880] I'm just looking around here. [22:53.880 --> 22:56.880] Somebody helped me. [22:56.880 --> 22:58.880] Poor Scott. [22:58.880 --> 23:00.880] Don't y'all feel sorry for him? [23:00.880 --> 23:05.880] Everybody say, oh, okay. [23:05.880 --> 23:08.880] Ken, do you want to? [23:08.880 --> 23:10.880] Here's the question. [23:10.880 --> 23:36.880] So if the county, if you get thrown in jail in some little ranked county and they don't have their examining trial, like the one that happened to me over in Reigns, which I had a little pre-trial hearing and the motions that were submitted about ex parte Garcia and the other two, I can't think of what's on my head. [23:36.880 --> 23:40.880] Anyway, they just denied completely outright. [23:40.880 --> 23:42.880] I mean, it was horrible. [23:42.880 --> 23:45.880] They didn't even read the thing. [23:45.880 --> 23:50.880] I don't even think, but if they did, they still just denied it outright. [23:50.880 --> 24:11.880] So if the county, you know, how can you get the county showed up and for their violating or due process rights, can you just go after them or do you just have to go after the cop or just go after the judge for, you know, his supervisor and neglect? [24:11.880 --> 24:14.880] I mean, there's got to be a remedy somewhere. [24:14.880 --> 24:18.880] We just got to be able to pull it apart and find it. [24:18.880 --> 24:20.880] So how about you? [24:20.880 --> 24:23.880] Are they viable at all? [24:23.880 --> 24:28.880] So and how can they be charged? [24:28.880 --> 24:29.880] Okay. [24:29.880 --> 24:31.880] You want me to address this, Randy? [24:31.880 --> 24:32.880] Yes. [24:32.880 --> 24:41.880] I've already talked to Scott before, so I'm somewhat familiar with what Scott's been going through because it's very parallel to a problem happening in Somerville. [24:41.880 --> 24:50.880] But what people also need to know is this whole idea of due process and the examining trial, I think I've got a theory as to why they don't want to do it. [24:50.880 --> 25:03.880] It's because to bring you to the magistrate, most of the magistrates that they use are JP judges and JP judges generally are generally nothing. [25:03.880 --> 25:07.880] JP judges in Texas are not courts of record. [25:07.880 --> 25:13.880] So they have no court reporters there. [25:13.880 --> 25:22.880] Now, if I'm remembering this correctly, Randy, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're supposed to keep a record of the testimony in an examining trial. [25:22.880 --> 25:24.880] Yes? [25:24.880 --> 25:26.880] Not a written record. [25:26.880 --> 25:28.880] There's nothing requiring a written record. [25:28.880 --> 25:40.880] The one thing that is required to be written is or that can be written is a witness's statement. [25:40.880 --> 25:54.880] This is separate, different from other types of hearings because in an examining trial, the first thing that happens is the witness gets to make a statement before any charges are brought or any claims are made against him. [25:54.880 --> 26:00.880] That can be written and it must be transmitted with the case. [26:00.880 --> 26:03.880] That's all I know about written. [26:03.880 --> 26:22.880] But if you're going to cross-examine witnesses under these examining trials, there should be a record of what they say to perpetuate that for testimony to show on a motion to strike based on they were either not credible witnesses [26:22.880 --> 26:26.880] or they didn't state anything that rose to the level of a crime. [26:26.880 --> 26:31.880] And if you don't have the statement recorded, you can't do that. [26:31.880 --> 26:36.880] So there's a question as to whether or not there's a necessity for a court reporter. [26:36.880 --> 27:00.880] But the answer for Scott's question is number one is what we're seeing so far at least our legal theory of operation is that under chapter 16.17, absent of finding a probable cause by the examining trial after 48 hours, the party needs to be released. [27:00.880 --> 27:09.880] Randy would say that that further means that the court has no jurisdiction since there wasn't any documents forward to the court under chapter 17. [27:09.880 --> 27:12.880] So there is no prosecutorial process. [27:12.880 --> 27:21.880] So essentially what we're seeing is the court is acting under color of law, possibly in a simulated legal process. [27:21.880 --> 27:38.880] So the only way to do this since they have no jurisdiction is to go to the appellate court with a mandamus and compel them to instruct the court to dismiss the case since there is no jurisdiction. [27:38.880 --> 27:43.880] You shouldn't have to go through an entire trial at the trial court then to end up in front of the appellate court. [27:43.880 --> 27:51.880] And the appellate court saying, no, this should have never happened. There was no jurisdiction. You should be able to get remedy from that now. [27:51.880 --> 27:54.880] So that would be one thing I would say. [27:54.880 --> 27:58.880] The other thing is this complaints, obviously, and the issue of suits. [27:58.880 --> 28:16.880] Now, parallel to this is I just discovered just a few months ago a class action suit in the federal courts in Houston, Texas, and it involves a class action against Houston, the city of Houston. [28:16.880 --> 28:20.880] We're doing exactly this in violation of Bernstein Pugh. [28:20.880 --> 28:33.880] Well, not only are they in violation of Bernstein Pugh, but apparently there was a district court order that ordered Houston to have probable cause hearings within 24 hours. [28:33.880 --> 28:39.880] This case has 80,000 plaintiffs that were held 36 hours or more. [28:39.880 --> 28:46.880] In some cases, they were held more than a week, and yet they hadn't had probable cause hearings. [28:46.880 --> 29:05.880] So this is a fundamental problem about due process, and it opens up their litigation under, obviously, Title 42, 1983, but there's a fine in the ointment there because there's apparently in the local federal courts [29:05.880 --> 29:17.880] an administrative process in place where some of the judges have required a magistrate to determine whether or not a pro-state's pleadings are appropriate to move forward. [29:17.880 --> 29:22.880] And apparently they can sit on these pleadings for almost ever. [29:22.880 --> 29:37.880] That's why I would suggest that people not file cases in Texas, in Texas, if it's about a public official's in Texas, file it by Pacer in Washington, D.C. [29:37.880 --> 29:54.880] And there's less likely to be a good old boy relationship between the judges in D.C. and the judges in the county judges and the mayors and officials within the state of Texas. [29:54.880 --> 30:00.880] Hang on, we're about to go to break, we'll be right back. 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[32:54.880 --> 33:11.880] You can get your copy today and together we can have free society we all want and deserve. [33:24.880 --> 33:53.880] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio. We're here with Kid Magnuson and we're talking to Scott from Texas. [33:53.880 --> 33:58.880] Ken, I think you were... [33:58.880 --> 34:06.880] Yeah, we were talking about what possibilities Scott can do after the county judge essentially ignores it all. [34:06.880 --> 34:11.880] I think the only possibilities are a mandamus of some type. [34:11.880 --> 34:23.880] The other possible thing that Randy and I were discussing on the break was maybe we need to go ahead and start immediately filing a civil case and asking for a restraining order. [34:23.880 --> 34:31.880] And the only question Randy had is whether or not a district judge could issue a restraining order over a criminal case in a county court. [34:31.880 --> 34:46.880] If there's no jurisdiction and the county court hasn't proven or prevailed upon presenting any evidence that they have jurisdiction, then there's no jurisdictional question in the district court. [34:46.880 --> 34:57.880] So you go to the district court and file suit against them indicating they have no immunity because they have no jurisdiction and you want a restraining order to prevent them from moving forward. [34:57.880 --> 35:02.880] So that would be one of the things that I would contemplate doing. [35:02.880 --> 35:11.880] That could turn into a lot of thought before we set judges against one another. [35:11.880 --> 35:25.880] Right. Well, the other issue is immediately based on this and the lack of jurisdiction would also be to file a motion to disqualify the judge for essentially participating in an ongoing criminal conspiracy under color of law. [35:25.880 --> 35:39.880] And, you know, but you got to put it all together. You got to show the show the issue and then, you know, you know, file it with him and then they can't they can't move forward with the case until I have a hearing. [35:39.880 --> 35:46.880] But now we've seen how those hearings have gone in the past with regards to the free to disqualification as a refusal. [35:46.880 --> 35:58.880] The issue is that the other thing would be is you can't get a fair trial in that county and move for a change of venue. [35:58.880 --> 36:03.880] Then you need three signatures and that shouldn't be hard to get. [36:03.880 --> 36:17.880] It's in the civil rules, but in the in the regular rules, if you can't seem to get a fair trial there because nobody's following the law and you have mandatory law. [36:17.880 --> 36:21.880] Now, technically, you can actually do a mandamus and an emergency mandamus. [36:21.880 --> 36:27.880] You can go all the way to the court of criminal appeals in the criminal side. [36:27.880 --> 36:31.880] You can do the same thing in cases involving the Supreme Court. [36:31.880 --> 36:39.880] You hear it, but the issue is you can go all the way to the court of criminal appeals that here is your precedent case. [36:39.880 --> 36:44.880] Here's the exact situation that your judge talked about it in this case. [36:44.880 --> 36:46.880] It's exactly on point. [36:46.880 --> 36:48.880] It's not 99% on point. [36:48.880 --> 36:50.880] It's 100% on point. [36:50.880 --> 36:58.880] I rarely ever see that and say that they are just disregarding the process. [36:58.880 --> 37:07.880] And then when the court of a criminal appeals rules against you, then you charge them with shielding for prosecution and take them back to the grand jury. [37:07.880 --> 37:10.880] Well, that would be only if they refused to hear it. [37:10.880 --> 37:17.880] But the issue is, is if they ruled against you, they'd be overturning the precedent case, which would violate the statute. [37:17.880 --> 37:20.880] Yeah. [37:20.880 --> 37:23.880] I don't think we want... [37:23.880 --> 37:26.880] They would create untenable case law. [37:26.880 --> 37:28.880] Yes, they would. [37:28.880 --> 37:36.880] They would create conflicting case law that conflicts with the statute and the requirements under Ernstine Pugh. [37:36.880 --> 37:47.880] Because like you've always indicated, if they have to have a probable cause hearing, the only place the legislature is given for a judge to have a probable... [37:47.880 --> 37:50.880] I mean, a magistrate to have a probable cause hearing is under Chapter 16. [37:50.880 --> 37:52.880] There is no other place. [37:52.880 --> 38:01.880] And I can't find any other place for a trial court to get subject matter jurisdiction. [38:01.880 --> 38:04.880] Other than by a finding a probable cause. [38:04.880 --> 38:07.880] Yeah, that's 1517 order. [38:07.880 --> 38:08.880] Right. [38:08.880 --> 38:12.880] Well, no, it's also 1617 order. [38:12.880 --> 38:14.880] I'm sorry, 1617. [38:14.880 --> 38:19.880] 1517 is word salad. [38:19.880 --> 38:20.880] Right. [38:20.880 --> 38:28.880] 16.17 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of Texas specifically says that there is a finding a probable cause. [38:28.880 --> 38:34.880] Now, they're going to show that they have a probable cause determination, but they're going to show it on a magistrates report. [38:34.880 --> 38:40.880] And obviously, they didn't have an examining problem because the accused had a right to make a statement. [38:40.880 --> 38:55.880] Well, the problem with showing it on a magistrates report is under 17.30, the magistrate was required to seal all documents had in the hearing. [38:55.880 --> 39:09.880] The statement of the accused, if any, I forget what it mentioned, and all of the documents had in the hearing are to be sealed in an envelope with the name of the judge written across the seal of the envelope and boarded to the court of jurisdiction. [39:09.880 --> 39:14.880] I don't understand what they got in the magistrate. [39:14.880 --> 39:17.880] I want to see that sealed envelope. [39:17.880 --> 39:18.880] That's right. [39:18.880 --> 39:20.880] We've never seen one of them. [39:20.880 --> 39:22.880] Never have. [39:22.880 --> 39:34.880] And that is the only place in Texas penal code, Code of Criminal Procedure that anything was ever required to be sealed. [39:34.880 --> 39:36.880] Right. [39:36.880 --> 39:43.880] So the legislature took that really serious. [39:43.880 --> 39:45.880] And they haven't changed a bit. [39:45.880 --> 39:58.880] Now, one of the arguments put forward by an attorney I know talked about Bernstein-Pew, and Bernstein-Pew is quite a lengthy case, and it describes, by the Supreme Court says, [39:58.880 --> 40:06.880] we don't have a problem with the idea of the states trying probable cause hearings that are non-advice scenario. [40:06.880 --> 40:24.880] However, after Bernstein-Pew was decided and so was Riverside versus McLaughlin, the Texas legislature didn't change anything in the Code of Criminal Procedure regarding Chapter 14, 15, or 16. [40:24.880 --> 40:35.880] So where did they give the police or law enforcement officers the ability to go to a magistrate for a magistration? [40:35.880 --> 40:42.880] For non-conversual, you know, non... [40:42.880 --> 40:43.880] Okay. [40:43.880 --> 40:49.880] Magistration is mentioned in 15.17. [40:49.880 --> 41:01.880] Chapter 15 is a rest with a warrant, and 15, the magistration goes to someone arrested with a warrant out of county. [41:01.880 --> 41:12.880] If you take them to a magistrate in the foreign county, then he does this thing they call a magistration, but only in that instance. [41:12.880 --> 41:13.880] Right. [41:13.880 --> 41:15.880] They've applied that to every instance. [41:15.880 --> 41:16.880] Yeah. [41:16.880 --> 41:18.880] And they haven't done that in this case. [41:18.880 --> 41:25.880] Obviously, in Scott's case, as well as the case I know out of Somerville County, people were arrested without warrant in that county, [41:25.880 --> 41:33.880] they've been right past the magistrates' jail and held in jail for more than 36 hours before they ever saw a magistrate. [41:33.880 --> 41:44.880] And when the magistrates saw them, they've read them the magistrates' warning mentioned in Chapter 17, but they never did any of the procedure or process under Chapter 16. [41:44.880 --> 41:51.880] Okay, that was mentioned in Chapter 15.17 and in Chapter 16. [41:51.880 --> 41:52.880] Okay. [41:52.880 --> 41:53.880] Right. [41:53.880 --> 41:54.880] Yeah. [41:54.880 --> 41:56.880] You got that, Scott? [41:56.880 --> 41:58.880] Yes. [41:58.880 --> 42:02.880] So are you all straightened out on this now? [42:02.880 --> 42:07.880] Well, straight as a dog's hot leg. [42:07.880 --> 42:19.880] So the only remedy available, number one, would be motion to change venue, which is at the discretion of the trial court judge. [42:19.880 --> 42:35.880] If you're indigent, you're being appointed counsel, I take counsel because it's a lot easier to get the case reversed on appeal because of ineffectual counsel than it is to get it reversed on appeal when you act as your own counsel. [42:35.880 --> 42:40.880] And you get to work over appointed counsel. [42:40.880 --> 42:41.880] Oh, yeah. [42:41.880 --> 42:42.880] Oh, yeah. [42:42.880 --> 42:58.880] And then when they fail you, when they fail to follow the procedures and the statutes, you can then, they're still available for being sued later for malpractice, even though the county paid them. [42:58.880 --> 43:03.880] Because you are the intended third-party beneficiary of the contract. [43:03.880 --> 43:05.880] Well, yeah. [43:05.880 --> 43:09.880] They just want to go ahead and skip right past to trial now. [43:09.880 --> 43:12.880] And so I guess I'd have to ride on the tone. [43:12.880 --> 43:19.880] I need appointed counsel and send in a little affidavit of indigent. [43:19.880 --> 43:20.880] Right. [43:20.880 --> 43:28.880] And if you're receiving any government aid from anywhere, makes you automatically de facto indigent. [43:28.880 --> 43:37.880] Yeah, if you get food stamps, I just qualify for food stamps, so I'll be sending them with that little food stamp letter say, I'm guaranteed for. [43:37.880 --> 43:38.880] Uh-huh. [43:38.880 --> 43:39.880] Yeah. [43:39.880 --> 43:42.880] Well, I wouldn't have written a phrase it that way. [43:42.880 --> 43:46.880] I don't know what I mean. [43:46.880 --> 43:49.880] That's just where the listeners... [43:49.880 --> 43:50.880] Okay. [43:50.880 --> 43:52.880] I kind of bushwhacked you there. [43:52.880 --> 43:57.880] Scott, did you have a particular question or comment for us? [43:57.880 --> 43:59.880] I don't know why. 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[46:38.880 --> 46:41.880] And we're talking to Scott in Texas. [46:41.880 --> 46:47.880] Scott, we gave you an opportunity and you used up your three seconds. [46:47.880 --> 46:58.880] I got one, anyway, one thing was really interesting when I non-suited the Dallas County judge, Clay Jenkins. [46:58.880 --> 47:06.880] The biz circuit wrote me back and said that I had to include Dallas County EEC and they couldn't close the case out. [47:06.880 --> 47:09.880] So I rewrote it and included Dallas County EEC. [47:09.880 --> 47:15.880] So I thought that was kind of strange, but yeah. [47:15.880 --> 47:18.880] Dallas County EEC? [47:18.880 --> 47:23.880] Yeah, they told me I had to write it back and put in Dallas County EEC. [47:23.880 --> 47:26.880] Because you had named another party. [47:26.880 --> 47:31.880] Yeah, but Dallas County Incorporated? [47:31.880 --> 47:33.880] Oh, okay. [47:33.880 --> 47:41.880] Ken said that Dallas County was available in Delaware, but maybe not in Texas. [47:41.880 --> 47:44.880] No. [47:44.880 --> 47:53.880] Well, but the fact that the defendant was named, he has to withdraw all considerations in motion to the non-suit. [47:53.880 --> 47:57.880] He has to remove all of the defendants. [47:57.880 --> 48:03.880] Even if they don't exist. [48:03.880 --> 48:14.880] Okay, that would tend to imply that if you non-suit, you have to non-suit every party. Can you non-suit a single party and not the other parties? [48:14.880 --> 48:23.880] You can do that with a Nunk Proton. [48:23.880 --> 48:34.880] The indicating that the party was named an error? [48:34.880 --> 48:43.880] Well, I don't understand why. [48:43.880 --> 48:46.880] Were you trying to dispose of the case? [48:46.880 --> 48:49.880] Yeah, I was just non-suiting. [48:49.880 --> 48:59.880] Okay, then it makes sense. You have to non-suit everybody because you can non-suit a single party and not non-suit the other parties. [48:59.880 --> 49:06.880] So the court's telling you if you're going to non-suit and dispose of the case, you've got to non-suit everybody. [49:06.880 --> 49:15.880] Right, yeah. So I was just interested in how it was treated like a person is what I was getting asked like. [49:15.880 --> 49:20.880] Under Texas law, a corporation is a person. [49:20.880 --> 49:31.880] For the purpose of being able to be sued and having certain rights on being sued, it's construed as a person and that's reasonable. [49:31.880 --> 49:38.880] Whether they exist or not, you name them, you have to remove all. [49:38.880 --> 49:47.880] Okay, so whether there is no Dallas County Inc. person? [49:47.880 --> 49:58.880] Well, if I decide to incorporate the name Dallas County and become Dallas County Inc. and all of a sudden I've got a suit against me, I didn't know about. [49:58.880 --> 50:05.880] What they're doing is just cleaning up the paperwork. [50:05.880 --> 50:14.880] Okay, that's fine. Well, I guess that's all I got for right now. [50:14.880 --> 50:24.880] Okay, thank you Scott. Now we're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin. Mark, I know you have been causing trouble. [50:24.880 --> 50:53.880] Well, I don't know about trouble, sir. But Mr. Magnussen's point of creating some politics and such to file paperwork with the higher court is an interesting tactic I had not considered in the two little ongoing efforts that I have. [50:53.880 --> 51:02.880] But the reason I was calling tonight is I wanted to ask you, Mr. Kelton, about mortgages. [51:02.880 --> 51:20.880] Notably, I have a situation where a very dear friend of mine who I have power of attorney with made a mortgage payment and the bank sent the money to the wrong party. [51:20.880 --> 51:30.880] They have spent this entire month pointing fingers yelling and screaming at each other. No one's credited the account properly. [51:30.880 --> 51:59.880] And what I'm curious is what angles can I pick on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act such that when I step into this as a, using the power of attorney, I can start dope slapping these people, both the bank that the account is with where the money was sent from and the mortgage company. [51:59.880 --> 52:25.880] So for 15 US code, what is it, 1492G? The one that requires the debt collector to maintain their records in a way to avoid error. [52:25.880 --> 52:40.880] Okay, 15 USC what? I think it's been a while since I quoted them. I think it's 1592G. [52:40.880 --> 52:54.880] But in the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, it's not very big and there's one of them in there that requires that they keep their records in a way to avoid error. [52:54.880 --> 52:56.880] That's your claim. [52:56.880 --> 53:25.880] I'm curious too. All right. Because in the particular case, since the bank had previously stopped 1492G, not just 1492G. I got cobwebs in there. I've slept since I quoted it last. [53:25.880 --> 53:33.880] So we're all getting older and cobwebs keep happening. I'm there, man. [53:33.880 --> 53:51.880] In your electronic habit that you have that you mentioned occasionally, just an FYI, the Pine 64 people now have a $44, 4G of RAM, 4 processor, credit card sized computer. [53:51.880 --> 53:59.880] So for the automation stuff that you're doing, there is a possible target there for you. [53:59.880 --> 54:09.880] But interestingly, back to actual law that, yeah, I thought you would find it interesting. Back to actual law things. [54:09.880 --> 54:23.880] I have a situation where a group of lawyers I've sued, they have, and I'm looking for more tactics than writing the Supreme Court and requesting a dope slapping of the lawyers. [54:23.880 --> 54:44.880] Wisconsin now has a mandatory e-filing. Lawyers are mandatory e-filers. The lawyers have not only been served, but they were sent a letter by the court saying, hey, this case is going on, here's your ID code for e-filing. [54:44.880 --> 55:03.880] They have not joined the case as an e-filer. They have not supplied anything. They've not responded. It looks to me like they're going to try and run the case out under statute limitations by not filing and saying, what? Lawsuit? Us? We're confused. [55:03.880 --> 55:24.880] And so I'm looking at reaching out to not only the Supreme Court, but since the CEO has a relationship with the court system as a judge, or I should say a court commissioner, I'm going to reach out there. [55:24.880 --> 55:43.880] But I'm looking for other things that I could go ahead and create people pointing and asking questions. And I'm just curious what other ideas you may have beyond reaching out to the Supreme Court and saying, you guys created e-filing. [55:43.880 --> 55:50.880] These people are not responding to the e-filing. Are you going to do something? [55:50.880 --> 55:55.880] Can move for sanctions? [55:55.880 --> 56:11.880] I've tried moving for sanctions historically. I've tried moving for sanctions against attorneys, and it's went exactly the same amount of e-filing that you get out of a lead-derigable field. [56:11.880 --> 56:15.880] Okay. Hang on again, Mark. Mark, did you have a comment? [56:15.880 --> 56:27.880] Yeah. The first thing that I wanted to know is, so the system's filed and they've been served, I don't care if they've answered it, they haven't answered, move for default judgment. [56:27.880 --> 56:47.880] All right. Once I file the actual evidence that I have, because what I have is the emails to and from their client that creates the basis for my case. I'll file that paper and then move for default. [56:47.880 --> 56:49.880] Okay. Hold on. [56:49.880 --> 56:51.880] Yeah. [56:51.880 --> 57:01.880] E-mails to and from. Were these emails to and from subsequent to your filing? [57:01.880 --> 57:07.880] Where I'm going with this question, if they have... [57:07.880 --> 57:09.880] These are all e-... [57:09.880 --> 57:19.880] Okay. If they've done something to indicate that they have notice of the suit, they can't claim lack of notice. [57:19.880 --> 57:38.880] Yeah. These are not emails about the lack of notice. These are emails that show that the basis of my suit has merit, the basis of my suit has value, that these people were jerking around not only me, but the court system itself. [57:38.880 --> 57:39.880] Okay. [57:39.880 --> 57:52.880] Yeah. The issue here is once you file the suit, there ought to be enough in the suit that raises a cause of action. [57:52.880 --> 57:53.880] Okay. [57:53.880 --> 58:08.880] And they've been served. And then you file it. You don't have to file anything else except the motion for default judgment. And then when you go in for the default judgment, you do what's called approval, where you present all your evidence. They won't be there. [58:08.880 --> 58:29.880] And you enter all your evidence and you can get on the stand and testify as to what they did. But the testimony can't be secondhand. It can't be hearsay. It's still got to... If you've got witnesses, you bring them with you and you have them on the stand and you go through the whole process just like a trial without the other party even being there. [58:29.880 --> 58:37.880] All right. Let's cover the hearsay version on the other side because I hear the music. [58:37.880 --> 58:49.880] Okay. This is Randy Kelton, Rural Radio. I call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back. [58:49.880 --> 59:00.880] Would you like to make more definite progress in your walk with God? Bibles for America is offering a free study Bible and a set of free Christian books that can really help. [59:00.880 --> 59:12.880] The New Testament recovery version is one of the most comprehensive study Bibles available today. 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There are active rovers on Mars. There was a rumor going around last week that there weren't, but there are. But there are no humans. It seems InfiWars and Alex Jones are being listened to by a lot of important people. [01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:57.880] The University of Exeter released a new study by Professor Charles Tyler, which catalogs how male freshwater fish in Britain are turning into females due to the chemicals released into the water from birth control pills, cosmetic makeup, cleaning agents, and plastics all being flushed down the drains. [01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:08.880] The study found that one-fifth of males, or 20% of the male fish population, were now showing feminine traits, including producing eggs, reduced sperm counts, and less aggressive behavior. [01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:15.880] Professor Tyler stated that, quote, We are showing that some of these chemicals can have much wider health effects in fish than we expected. [01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:27.880] Using specially-created transgenic fish that allows us to see response to these chemicals in the bodies of the fish in real time. For example, we have shown that estrogens found in some plastics affect the valves in the heart. [01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:41.880] Other research has shown that many other chemicals that are being discharged through sewage treatment works can affect fish, including antidepressant drugs that reduce the natural shyness of some fish species, including the way they react to predators. [01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:59.880] The Lone Star Lowdown is currently open for sponsors. If you're a product or a service you'd like to advertise with us, feel free to get any call at 210-363-1257. This was Rick Brody with your Lowdown for July 3rd, 2017. [01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:25.880] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton with Law Radio, and I have to admit it, and you get to be here to see it first time I was wrong. [01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:35.880] 15 U.S. Code 1692. Sorry about that, Mark. Okay, Mark. [01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:47.880] That's all right. I would have caught that eventually, because it goes from 1641 to 1690-something. [01:03:47.880 --> 01:04:06.880] I would have eventually found it, but the key is to maintain records to avoid issues and problems. That's going to be my paydirt to take the cudgel to beat these people over the head. [01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:30.880] Anyway, we're speaking directly to Mr. Magnussen and the hearsay issue. The situation is the attorney's emails to the attorney's client I am in possession of because I bought the client's machine off of the bankruptcy court. [01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:44.880] You're kidding. No. I'm locked with who's on first year. [01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:50.880] He's got the bank's emails because he bought their old computer. [01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:59.880] Well, then he doesn't need to prove them off from the bank to the lawyers, but same difference. [01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:04.880] There's no hearsay there. You own a client. [01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:13.880] Well, that's part of it. The other part that makes this more fun is the business record. [01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:40.880] Well, this gets better. This is why I'm saying, in case it wasn't funny and good now, it gets better. The business in question after dropping $30,000 with lawyers to defend against my $3,000 lawsuit has hired me to do not only their computer work, but their PR and a bunch of other things, subsequent. [01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:53.880] So the guy who is pretending or otherwise functioning as an owner and was a general manager is frozen out and I have his computer. [01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:59.880] And the business asked from the lawyers. It gets better, Randy. [01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:13.880] All you got to do is print them out and do a business record after David's like Texas does where you can submit business records. [01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:24.880] And you can indicate that you're in possession of these business records by virtue of having done business with them. These are your records now. And you can introduce all of them. [01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.880] He's in possession of these by virtue of having bought them. [01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:45.880] Right, right, right, right. Well, this is kind of how sport got beat on their flambé pentos is they went and sold their micro fish to a salvage company. [01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:58.880] And the salvage company owner had somebody that had been injured, severely burned in a flaming pinto. Okay. And he got this Alice full of micro fish, which contains silver. [01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.880] That's why they sell those if you get several pallets of these under the pound of silver. [01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:22.880] So he got he starts looking through it, finding out that that it's from Ford. And he essentially discovers that the memorandum of the concern of the engineering department with regards to the flambé cards. [01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:39.880] And he discovers this after Ford's attorneys had denied there was any knowledge of any of these communications. This all of this story is in a book called No Contest by Ralph Nader and John Wesley Smith. [01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:53.880] And it talks about how corporations essentially beat the average person. But in this case, he turned around and the class act ensued against Ford, and he made those micro fish available. [01:07:53.880 --> 01:08:05.880] And the federal judge in the case essentially did what's called the death penalty. He essentially ruled against Ford based on fraud and rules for the plaintiffs and all they did was argue over how much money. [01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:13.880] They didn't even get to present a defense anymore because they had essentially been caught in fraud. [01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:27.880] Wonderful. Wonderful. I'm going to have to reference that. I was going to reference federal and state law where people's computers were handed over to the cops. [01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:41.880] And the cops have gotten, police have gotten rulings going. We didn't have to worry about due process on these data records. They were handed to us in that. [01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:47.880] But the salvage with Ford, that'll work wonderful. [01:08:47.880 --> 01:09:07.880] But keep Randy laughing. The other part that happened is the business reached out to the lawyers and said, hey, we have a right to copies of all of our records that were involved with your attorney's lawsuits on behalf of our business. [01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:11.880] And the attorneys wrote back and said, we have no records. [01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:23.880] So Ford stopped. I have that. Right. I have that as a backup. But with this Ford thing, I shouldn't have to even touch my backup. That's great. [01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:27.880] Thank you, Mr. Madison. Yeah, you need to go find that case. [01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.880] It makes my evening. Yeah. But that's an old case. [01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:53.880] Yeah, but that's a big one. That's the Ford Pinto case. For those of you who don't know, Ford said it's cheaper for us to pay the lawsuits on the people who are killed and injured and horribly burned than it is to fix the problem. [01:09:53.880 --> 01:10:15.880] Big deal case. It was like $15 that they were claiming that they had adjudicated this out. And the other part for the listeners who are unaware, the issue was the axle and the bumper and the fuel tank all aligned in such a way that a good crash, [01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:30.880] the fuel take would crunch and leak out all the gasoline, which, you know, would make a problem. So yeah, that is, that's good precedent for my particular case. [01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:41.880] Okay. Okay. This is just, Ken, after further thinking about this, I'm trying to remember whether this was the Ford Pinto case or they had another one with the side tanks on their trucks. [01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:54.880] And the problem is, is I'm remembering back to a book that I read literally 25 years ago and I'm actually walking around my house and I found the book. [01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:11.880] So maybe I'll be able to find it and I'll make sure I get it, get the actual case citation to, yeah, I remember Wesley J. Smith and the Ford case. [01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:21.880] When I read this book, this was long before I got involved in legal reform. I read this book, this book came out, I want to say. [01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:30.880] It's a good read. I want to tell people that it's a good read because it tells you the kind of dirty rotten Prince corporations do. [01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:39.880] Okay. Well, no, I was involved in 1996. So I read it right when I was starting out. [01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:53.880] But I soon recall it was Ford and it was either the Pinto or the, I think this, weren't the side tanks a Chevy issue? [01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.880] Yeah, if it was the Chevy, then we're talking about the Chevy case. [01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:03.880] Okay. I got to find it. I got to see the bibliography in here. Let me see if I can find it. [01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:11.880] But when I was thinking about Randy, this sounds like the Pinto case where they got caught by the microfish. [01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:13.880] He definitely knows how to get a hold of me. [01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:14.880] Oh, definitely. [01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:21.880] Right. Well, if I give the case citation to Randy, he can email it to you. [01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:22.880] Yeah. [01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:33.880] But you know basically what to look for. Once you got the basic construct, you can search for lawsuits, federal court, car makers. [01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:39.880] It was probably filed in Federal District Court in Detroit. So you already know where it is. [01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:42.880] I think the reason we know about it is because Ford appealed it. [01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:52.880] Basically, the appellate court said, no, the truck board warned you about discovery abuses over and over and over again because they were procrastinating on producing records. [01:12:52.880 --> 01:13:00.880] And then they said, then they produced documents that said the engineering department had no records. [01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:08.880] And then this guy turns up these microfish that had all of the letters about it. [01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.880] Nick, I say sold them all to his scrap yard. [01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:19.880] Right. They were so cheap they wanted the money off the silverware they should have burned them. [01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:26.880] Right. Now, I thought you had just to hit them. [01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:44.880] Okay. Given that in this county, I explicitly, in the previous case with these previous lawyers, I had previously pointed out where what the attorney submitted was bullshit. [01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:50.880] Wait, wait. You can't say that on there. Bull excrement, please. [01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.880] Okay. [01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:56.880] Male bovine excrement. [01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:02.880] There you go. [01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:13.880] He wasn't a judge. He was a, what will pretend he's a judge for the sake of this because I don't remember his actual title. [01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:30.880] He stated that, no, I believe the attorney. Do I go ahead and issue discovery, have them not respond and be nonresponsive, then give my data or just go... [01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.880] Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. [01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.880] Vertical... [01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.880] You owe it to these lawyers to give them opportunity to screw themselves. [01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:44.880] Why? Yeah, give them the opportunity to lie. [01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.880] All right. [01:14:46.880 --> 01:15:05.880] All right. That was going to be my initial thing was to give them the opportunity to not lie, use false and misleading statements, because I believe Mr. Kelton, you say Mr. Magnuson is the one who says always, but these people don't lie. [01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:07.880] It's false and misleading statements. [01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:13.880] No, that was Jeff Sedgwick and I'm afraid we lost Jeff Sedgwick a few months ago. 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[01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:23.880] I will go ahead and file the discovery request and allow them the opportunity to screw up. [01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:27.880] I will go ahead and delete one of the pieces. [01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:34.880] Okay, don't have too much fun, Mark. [01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:40.880] Oh, these attorneys represented against their client and then said in the email, [01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:44.880] we're going to do this, but you can't tell anybody. [01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:49.880] I'll just leave that 40 hours billing. [01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:51.880] And then with their billing, they also said, [01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:57.880] oh, because you're a wonderful customer and a repeat customer will give you a 50% discount. [01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:04.880] So I'll leave that one and make sure I get that in just to, you know, make them nervous. [01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.880] Good. [01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:08.880] Okay, you're having too much fun, Mark. [01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:09.880] All right. [01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:10.880] Thank you, sir. [01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:12.880] Okay, thank you, Mark. [01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:16.880] Now we're going to go to Olivier in Tennessee. [01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:18.880] Hello, Olivier. [01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:20.880] Hello? [01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:22.880] Amy? [01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:24.880] Yeah, I can hear you. [01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:25.880] I know. [01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:26.880] Okay. [01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.880] Okay, you got news for us. [01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:29.880] Yeah. [01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.880] Tell us what happened in court the other day. [01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:43.880] They went to court, me and Lozano went to court for a hearing and it was a hearing for Lozano got convicted of a trial. [01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:52.880] They denied him the opportunity to file motions and jailed him without due process procedures that they were supposed to do. [01:21:52.880 --> 01:22:02.880] So in return, we looked up the code, filed motions, filed a motion to appeal. [01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:10.880] They came and offered Lozano to release him that day if he would drop the appeal. [01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:17.880] Lozano told him, you know what, then we went. [01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:21.880] He instructed them as to where to put their deal? [01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:23.880] Yeah. [01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:32.880] So now they denied him, they gave, they denied him bail and put a bond on him. [01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:45.880] And so he's had to serve the sentence before the appeals court got a chance to answer his appeal bond, his emotional appeal bond. [01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:59.880] And during this time while he was in, I spoke to the state representatives, I spoke to the state senator and the FBI agent, a couple of, I spoke to the two people. [01:22:59.880 --> 01:23:08.880] But the important thing was when we were sitting there, I knew something was funny because when I walked in, the courtroom got silent. [01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:10.880] My attorney was surrounded. [01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:15.880] It was like a football huddle and he was in the middle. [01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:22.880] He was surrounded by the DA and the other attorney and like he was an attraction or something. [01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.880] So when I walked in, it got real silent. [01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:29.880] Then I knew something, I knew that they were talking about me because it got super silent. [01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:36.880] Then the conversation kind of like veered off very slowly like it wasn't talking about me or something. [01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:43.880] But we weren't paying attention because we handle our own, we're ready for whatever they have. [01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.880] We sat down, we're waiting for the court. [01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.880] The judge comes in, the judge looked like a ghost. [01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:52.880] He looked pale like a ghost and like, what's going on? [01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:59.880] He's like, well, before we start the court session, we have a couple of announcements to make. [01:23:59.880 --> 01:24:16.880] Well, we're going to have to add three more calendar days to every month in order to make room to address the rights of individuals as far as motions, [01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:32.880] especially individuals that have been incarcerated and also to provide due process procedures that we have not applied in a very long time. [01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:47.880] And from now on, all DAs will have to answer all motions written, will have to write a written answer to all motions from now on. [01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.880] And all the DAs were in there like disgusted. [01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:54.880] They were simply like, oh, what? [01:24:54.880 --> 01:25:03.880] And he looked like a ghost and I'm sitting in the fuse and I'm about to blow up. [01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:05.880] I'm making noise, not only intentionally, but I'm so excited that I can't keep to myself. [01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:06.880] I'm making noise. [01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:08.880] Nobody's telling me to be quiet. [01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:10.880] Nobody's asking me to leave. [01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:13.880] It was hilarious. [01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:22.880] So now they have three extra days every month and they have to do procedure processes. [01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.880] I don't think that's it. [01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.880] I think that's the beginning of it, but I don't know where the heat came from. [01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:29.880] I got to go track. [01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:37.880] I got to track down where does he came from because, in essence, there's 36 extra days that they have to put on the calendar. [01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:45.880] That means they pretty much took a month's salary cut if you've got to work. [01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:50.880] 36 extra days and you can't pay the same. [01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:53.880] This can't. [01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:54.880] Hold on, Ken. [01:25:54.880 --> 01:26:11.880] Have you ever seen or heard of a circumstance where a judge stood in front of the guy who caused the problem and ate that much crow? [01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.880] I've never seen this before. [01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:15.880] Go ahead, Ken. [01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:17.880] I was interrupted, Jeff. [01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:23.880] What I'm concerned about is that he may have been doing this and it may all be a dog and pony show. [01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:37.880] You've got to find out if they implemented a rule change or local rules or some court order or an agreement with the Justice Department, but there's got to be something in writing. [01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:41.880] Very good point. [01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.880] It has to be something in writing. [01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:50.880] Yes, whatever they are doing to change the procedures, that's got to be written down. [01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.880] How will anybody know a few months from now? [01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:55.880] No, it's not changing procedures. [01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:57.880] The procedures are already written down. [01:26:57.880 --> 01:26:59.880] They're state laws. [01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:03.880] They just have not been abiding by the state laws. [01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:08.880] Oh, the statutory existed and they were just ignoring the process. [01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:10.880] Exactly. [01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:17.880] When we brought up the issue, we decided to go to jail and bring up the issues because everybody else crying. [01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:25.880] So we were like, well, we're going to figure a result and if we're going to do it, we need to be standing in front of the room with these issues. [01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:26.880] And we did it. [01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:27.880] All right. [01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.880] Now you need to ask for compensation. [01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:35.880] Well, you're talking to the wrong guy here. [01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:37.880] He knows all about that. [01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:40.880] Go ahead, tell me Olivier. [01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:43.880] Oh, my lawsuit? [01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:46.880] Lawsuit? [01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.880] That was singular. [01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:51.880] Yeah, I have several lawsuits. [01:27:51.880 --> 01:28:01.880] I have like nine previous corpus in the federal court and I have about 20 other lawsuits in the federal court and four lawsuits in the state court. [01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:07.880] I've read a mandamus, you were speaking about a read a mandamus earlier, right? [01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:22.880] To me, it's seeming like the courts want the Supreme Court to look over it, especially when you're a mandamus in a governmental agency. [01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:38.880] I've done some research that I've done and it seems like that's what's happening to me. They've pushed my mandamus to the Supreme Court because the lower court ruled that I was not indigent, even though I didn't have a job and didn't have an income. [01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:43.880] And then I got a job a month later and then I had a criminal charge. [01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:48.880] Then the court ruled that I was indigent and I made $1,000 more. [01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.880] So I have all that on record to supply. [01:28:52.880 --> 01:29:06.880] To show that these are the procedures, the unlawful procedures that they do to protect the officials when they break our constitutional rights. [01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:08.880] Absolutely. [01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:27.880] So, but it's seeming like, but that's one point, but when I really read all the research and all the case, it seems like the appeal court doesn't want to deal with it in order to let the Supreme Court to make the ultimate ruling on it. [01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:38.880] And it seems like if the Supreme, if the appeal court ruled on it, then it is going to give them an opportunity to go to the Supreme Court, so they just push it to the Supreme Court. [01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:45.880] It might be unlawful, but I think that's the best of procedures that they're using. [01:29:45.880 --> 01:30:01.880] Okay, hang on, hang on, about to go to break. Randy Kauffman, rule by radio, we'll be right back. [01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:09.880] Home sweet home. As Judy Garland used to say, there's no place like it, but there's one room in our homes that's hands down the most dangerous. 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[01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:17.880] Yeah, so that's one of the techniques that they use them, but I think they're using these illegal rulings or strategies in order to kind of like lighten up their caseload and get our case to accord with authority. [01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.880] That's what my cap... [01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:39.880] Let me make a suggestion. Go down and pull the records of the court and do a calculation on the number of not guilty verdicts. [01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:54.880] I did that in my county I live in. In six months, there were 1,563 felons the indictments brought. According to the court record, one person pled not guilty. [01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:59.880] One. Everybody else was forced into a deal. [01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:09.880] Look in their records and see if you can't pull up some statistics that look really damning for them. [01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:16.880] The purpose is to push everybody into a deal instead, not have to conjugate the cases. [01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:43.880] Okay, well, that's your strategy. I was researching, and when I was researching the work of the Board of Judicial Complaints, I saw that they had like the complaints listed online, but it was also a section where they did like a brief or report about the misconduct [01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:54.880] and the judicial practices of prosecutors, and it's in great detail. [01:35:54.880 --> 01:36:07.880] So Tennessee has been on top of it. It is that us as people have not been bringing up the issue. It is a vast system. [01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:18.880] The issue is not brought for them. It is not corrected. So the ignorance of the public is allowing these prosecutors to get by. [01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:31.880] When I read those reports, they were taking care of these prosecutors, and they were for the same prosecutor errors that you was talking about. No jurisdiction and all these things. [01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:42.880] But see, they don't get, this is Ken Magnuson chiming up here. See, the prosecutor doesn't get discretion whether or not to break the law. [01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:55.880] When they don't have any jurisdiction, they don't have any jurisdiction, and anything they do subsequent to discovering or reasonably believing they don't have jurisdiction is a crime. [01:36:55.880 --> 01:37:06.880] It's malicious prosecution. It's unlawful detention if they put somebody in jail under those circumstances, and they're committing a crime. [01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:17.880] It's like Randy and I opening up our own court, and if the plea bargain will let you pay $1,000, we're going to put you in jail in Randy's storm shelter, right? [01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:25.880] We don't have any jurisdiction. We're not allowed to do that. Just because somebody wrote a report doesn't mean we're allowed to continue to do it. [01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:31.880] They committed crimes when they do this. Randy, you agree? [01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:53.880] I've been going after this for a long time. I mean, we agree, but how many people are going to be educated enough to go force them to press criminal charges? But the system that I was looking at earlier, the Judicial Board was going after prosecutors who did things during the trial, [01:37:53.880 --> 01:38:05.880] and if it was brought to the appeal case or a motion was put in, then something in the judicial system brought it to their attention. [01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:20.880] I think that method is a lot easier or less complicated than trying to press criminal charges against officials with a system that doesn't work for you. [01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:30.880] Right. Well, you can do both. Doesn't mean you can't use both systems. You're not denied access to filing a judicial complaint. [01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:40.880] I'm not familiar with Tennessee's process on that, but the issue is that you could bring the judicial complaints against the prosecutors as well as criminal complaints. [01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:52.880] But the issue that Randy and I have been utilizing is we don't file the complaints necessary with the officials. We file them with the grand jury directly. [01:38:52.880 --> 01:39:11.880] Well, here in Tennessee, that's one of the issues that I'm trying to open up. In this county, almost in every county, that's one of the issues that I'm bringing to the light that we're being restricted from the grand jury. [01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:24.880] Well, talk to your senator about that. That needs to be a law that needs to be changed. In Texas, they're trying to restrict us from the grand jury, too, but there is no specific law, so they're kind of trying to make it up. [01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:37.880] And the issue here at this point is that we'll still keep sending this stuff to the grand jury, and if one of these guys gets indicted, that's going to change everything because nobody will know what they'll do. [01:39:37.880 --> 01:39:51.880] If they're served with papers, they might indict a judge. They might indict a deputy sheriff or whatever, but you use all of the methods that are available. [01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:56.880] If you've got a complaint for a procedure available for the prosecutors, obviously use that. [01:39:56.880 --> 01:40:15.880] See, in this state, even if people did file a complaint against the prosecutor, it's secret. We have Soviet-style law in Texas in order to protect corrupt attorneys. [01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:21.880] Wait a minute. A secret? Well, I file a criminal complaint. It's not a secret. [01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:26.880] No, no, no. The judicial conduct of the bar are secret. [01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:28.880] Oh, okay. Yeah, those are. [01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:40.880] The one thing they can't handle, they can't depend on are the criminal complaints. They can't depend on being protected. [01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:52.880] My local prosecutor gave me the best thing I could have got when I walked into his office one day, and he's sitting with his head in his hand, and I said, what's the matter, Greg? [01:40:52.880 --> 01:41:00.880] He said, those darn grand jurors, you never know what they're going to do. [01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:13.880] And I said, there is a God. That's the best I could have heard. Not that we can control them or that they're out of control. [01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:17.880] They're always a wild card. [01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:33.880] You never know when you bring a complaint against a public official. If you've got a grand juror in there who just had his granddaughter pulled over by some young cop who couldn't get a date with her, so he arrested her through jail all night. [01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:39.880] And the grand juror is furious and looking for someone to take it out on. [01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:44.880] It's always a crap shoot. [01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:49.880] And that's why we go after grand jurors, whether you get to them or not. [01:41:49.880 --> 01:42:00.880] These guys are saying, what if he gets there? What if I got a political enemy that hates me, wants to get rid of me, or wants to use me as a sacrificial lamb? I'm toast. [01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:03.880] That's why I love grand jurors. [01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:15.880] Well, I think you write how grand juror is tough and that's why they won't allow people to get around them. [01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:32.880] But the procedures and the lawsuit that I'm filing right now, what is making this, what is causing it to happen is causing the judges to make errors repeatedly over and over again to the point where I have enough information to show that [01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:44.880] unlawfulness, so when it's time for me to write down, rewrite this mandamus for the grand jury, that should go straight through. [01:42:44.880 --> 01:43:01.880] Because by that time, I have four, three cases that's on docket right now in appeals court for the civil case. I shouldn't get answers, a ruling on that within 30 days or two months. [01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:13.880] But all these cases are coming back and now they're starting to realize that they can't do anything with us because every time they do something, the courts come back and land on them. [01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:16.880] That's the way it's supposed to be. [01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:22.880] Right. So they denied Luzano's attorney that day when he made the speech. [01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:26.880] Luzano asked to get rid of the attorney and give him another. [01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:32.880] He's like, well, you filed a appeal already and we don't have jurisdiction to do anything. [01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:36.880] So you have to do the case by yourself. [01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:40.880] But he awarded the attorney his case to be removed. [01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:46.880] Okay, hang on. Going to break Randy Kelton. We'll be on radio. [01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:59.880] Don't give out the call that number. Pat Germain will try to get to you, but we're sorry. We're running out of time. We'll be right back. [01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:16.880] Nutritious food is real body armor. It builds muscle, burns fat, improves digestion and feeds the entire body the nutrients it needs. 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[01:45:51.880 --> 01:46:20.880] And remember, every $25 donation is a chance to win. Go to logosradionetwork.com for details and donate today. [01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:26.880] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton was already here with Ken Magnuson and we're talking to Olivier in Tennessee. [01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:30.880] Okay, Olivier, where do we go from here? [01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:33.880] Um, who's over here? [01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:40.880] Well, I'm basically on hold now. [01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:45.880] Yeah, basically he's lost his attorney. The judge let him withdraw, right? [01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:52.880] Yeah, the judge let the attorney withdraw and then he said that told Lozano that he had to do securities on appeal. [01:46:52.880 --> 01:47:04.880] The court would not be given an attorney. Lozano traveled up to the appeals court by the motion stating that the appointment of counsel. [01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:25.880] The court, Lozano back stated that his counsel has not sent the record like they petitioned for, so they're going to remand the case down to the lower court in order for a lower court to deal with the motion. [01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:38.880] So now we have the order, wrote a motion, which is very demanding, is written in a commanding language. [01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:48.880] Right now we understand that we're not subject to them, so it's written in a demanding language to piss them off to do something else stupid. [01:47:48.880 --> 01:48:06.880] With the court's order telling them that this case, this issue would then be remanded back into that cause because of the incompetency of Lozano's attorney that he recently had. [01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:19.880] One of the things that we're concerned is, depending on how the rules for appointment of counsel are, is that counsel can't be removed or it may become, depending on how the statutes are written, [01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:30.880] it may become an issue of allowing an attorney to withdraw and you don't want them to withdraw or they withdraw before they complete certain necessary steps. [01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:36.880] That's torturous interference with the contract, you can actually sue the judge for that. [01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:38.880] Right. [01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:44.880] So in this case you asked for the attorney to be removed, didn't you? [01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:47.880] Lozano did. [01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:50.880] Yeah, well it was a counter motion. [01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:54.880] The attorney put an emotion to be removed. [01:48:54.880 --> 01:49:03.880] Lozano put an emotion for him to be found in sufficient counsel because of one through ten issues. [01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:06.880] Right, okay. [01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:16.880] Okay, so you didn't oppose the motion to remove, or the motion to withdraw? [01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:20.880] No. [01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:28.880] Okay, that's how we suggest that you oppose it because the judge is going to grant it anyway, then you get this claim against the judge. [01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:46.880] Right, you conditionally oppose the motion by laying out all of the things the attorney did wrong in the motion and you make it a verified petition because that will stand as the complaint against the attorney when you file it with the bar. [01:49:46.880 --> 01:50:06.880] Well, what he did was, I guess, he filed insufficient counsel to write everything because he already had a trial to write all the things that were insufficient according to case law that has already been ruled in the federal court. [01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:28.880] Right, in Texas there's actually a statute that says counsel represents the party all the way through all exhaustion of appeal, and yet the attorneys tell their clients, I only do the trial, and yet they lie because you need to see what the appointment of counsel statute is in Tennessee and see what the length and breadth of that is. [01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:40.880] It's the same thing. It's the same thing here. Well, what I've been realizing is that all the laws across the state match. They might be written in a different language, but they have to match. [01:50:40.880 --> 01:51:00.880] Tennessee has the same thing that you have, but it's just written in a different way. But if you go look at the federal ruling on a conflicting issue, you realize that all the supreme courts rule the same, that their statute meet the same thing as other states have said. [01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:06.880] So we had the same statute that says that the counsel is all the way through appeal. [01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:15.880] Right. I wanted to address something that you said earlier about the Boston prison arrest without warrants. [01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:36.880] I was thinking, but when you're talking about, I had nine rapist corpuses, and once, then those were just in all the procedures rule that she was talking about, not being able to have a phone call, counsel at the bail hearing, no warrant before being arrested. All those issues, plus or more, have been put in my [01:51:36.880 --> 01:52:00.880] rapist corpus. Now, once I get a ruling on that, I would be able to come back and use those rulings as class action lawsuits or right class action lawsuits against the city because of all these procedural processes that have nine cases that that's been ruled on. [01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:13.880] See, the problem, the problem's yes, and you can use all of those as judicial determinations that the trial court essentially did what you accused them of in a Title 42-1983 case. [01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:28.880] But the reason the rifts of habeas corpus don't go anywhere, as long as you're out of jail, rift of habeas corpus is only used when you're actually in prison. Once you're out, they should revert to mandamuses. [01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:51.880] But if you can't get timely rulings from these courts on either an accelerated appeal, you should sue the state of Tennessee indicating it's just more of a delay, delay, delay, which is their technique for punishing you for even wanting justice. [01:52:51.880 --> 01:53:00.880] Okay, but there is a way to get to Tennessee where I found a way to get the habeas corpus is heard. I don't understand that. [01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.880] Are you conscious? [01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:13.880] In Texas, they'll toss out a habeas that you're out of jail. You can only file a habeas by some other party if you're in jail. [01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:16.880] The state law, right? [01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:21.880] Yeah, this is the state law. [01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:27.880] Well, okay. The way that the habeas corpus is to go is that both state and federal has the right to protect the Constitution. [01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:34.880] So since you're in state, since you're in the state side, you have to allow the state to address the issue first. [01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:49.880] And the state, right, writes the habeas corpus as a post conviction. So that's after you convicted and all that. So the process is to address the state first knowing that they're going to do that. [01:53:49.880 --> 01:54:06.880] I found case law, federal case law states that we have the right to do that. When we do that, we are negating the state, the opportunity to review it because habeas corpus cannot be withheld and we're allowed to do that. [01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:26.880] And it's called the exhaustion rule. So I'm already in the federal court. I passed that, but that's one of the techniques that is used that people are not educated to make them not follow through. [01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:36.880] But after I got all that, I passed all that already. So right now I'm in the appeals court. [01:54:36.880 --> 01:54:42.880] I'm in the federal appeals court waiting to get permission to send them my briefs. [01:54:42.880 --> 01:55:01.880] Okay, so you're right, but there's two sides of the law and they interplay with each other. And you got to, when it stops, one end is always some way connects to the other for it to be just because I always heard that our laws are just and I seem to mess up. [01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:08.880] But when I started reading and investigating, I do realize it is just, but you got to fight for it. You got to fight for it and educate yourself. [01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:17.880] But the problem is that that's erecting a system that makes it complicated for those that don't have resources. [01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:37.880] The goal is to deny to process to the poor and indigent and uneducated while those who have access to Armani suited attorneys get released immediately and seem to have no problems in getting out of jail without posting enormous bonds or whatever. [01:55:37.880 --> 01:55:53.880] So this is a class structure issue where they created the law to deny people of a perceived lower class from getting justice by the very nature of the way they passed the law. [01:55:53.880 --> 01:56:15.880] Well, Olivier is guilty. He is guilty of being black and poor, but he's not guilty of being ignored and afraid and that's their problem. [01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:25.880] So, I'm really pleased with what you've managed to get done, Olivier. You may change everything in Tennessee. [01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:32.880] I'm trying to. I've got the video. I've got a recorder for you too. I'm going to e-mail it to you. [01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:44.880] Oh, wonderful. We'll play it on the air. This is what eating crow sounds like. [01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:49.880] I'll keep you informed with all the other information. [01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:59.880] Okay, good. Because we certainly want to keep up to speed on this one and keep looking at getting all of the research you've got. [01:56:59.880 --> 01:57:09.880] Keep it all together because we're going to start putting together a set of tools so that we can bring what you know to everybody in Tennessee. [01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:15.880] All those people you talked to in jail who were being railroaded. [01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:25.880] We can take the knowledge you're building now and codify it into a set of code so that anybody can take advantage of that knowledge. [01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:37.880] And when these judges start getting a stack of documents an inch high on every case, they'll start getting their procedures in order. [01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:47.880] And I think they realize that I've got a lot of big guns behind me. [01:57:47.880 --> 01:58:01.880] The state senator or the state representative, he mentioned to me that the only thing that he could possibly do which would be productive is to make new laws. [01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:10.880] And he said that this session has been over with, but for the next session he's going to look over my information and we can see what we could do. [01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:13.880] So I think that might hurt more. [01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:20.880] The main thing you want to look at is direct access to a grand jury. I am sorry we are out of time. [01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:26.880] Jermaine, I'm sorry we didn't get to you. If you want to email me offline, I'll talk to you. [01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:28.880] Go ahead, Ken, quickly. You've got 20 seconds. [01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:42.880] Yeah, the issue in Tennessee, though, is that the legislator could ask a special hearing and start subpoenaing judges down there to answer the hard questions as to why they've been doing what they've been doing. [01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:45.880] The idea is that it's now a hearing. [01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:49.880] Okay, we're out of time. Thank you all for listening and good night. [01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:57.880] Bibles for America is offering absolutely free, a unique study Bible called the New Testament Recovery Version. [01:58:57.880 --> 01:59:07.880] The New Testament Recovery Version has over 9,000 footnotes that explain what the Bible says, verse by verse, helping you to know God and to know the meaning of life. 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