[00:00.000 --> 00:10.000] The following news flash is brought to you by the Lone Star Lowdown, providing the daily bulletins for the commodity market. [00:10.000 --> 00:18.000] Today in history, news updates, and the inside scoop into the tides of the alternative. [00:18.000 --> 00:38.000] Markets for the 4th of September, 2015, opened up with gold at $1,124.29 an ounce, silver at $14.75 an ounce, Texas crude at $46.75 a barrel, and Bitcoin is currently sitting at about 227 U.S. currencies. [00:38.000 --> 00:49.000] Today in history, Tuesday, September 4th, 1956, the IBM 305 and 650 RAM AC were internally announced. [00:49.000 --> 00:55.000] They were the first commercial computers to use moving head hard disks, or magnetic disk storage, for its secondary storage device. [00:55.000 --> 01:03.000] They were housed in a room of about 30 by 50 feet, with the unit itself measuring around 16 square feet. More than 1,000 systems were built. [01:03.000 --> 01:15.000] In recent news, as many as 5,000 protesters rallied on foot with French farmers who took over the streets of Paris with more than 1,500 tractors yesterday. [01:15.000 --> 01:18.000] They are calling for action to address falling food prices. [01:18.000 --> 01:27.000] Prime Minister Manuel Valls, a well-known advocate of structural reforms in the farming sector, met with the heads of the FNCEA, the biggest farmers union in France. [01:27.000 --> 01:34.000] The union is calling for governmental action demanding fair prices and structural reforms, seeking the whole shebang of governmental interventionism, [01:34.000 --> 01:40.000] from tax breaks to subsidies, and initiatives which would raise the price of French farming goods to the rest of the EU. [01:40.000 --> 01:49.000] At the beginning of the year, the EU redistributed 1.1 billion euros in subsidies to livestock farmers in France. Then they asked for the payback. [01:49.000 --> 01:56.000] In response, French farmers in July blocked trade routes from Spain and Germany into France, forcing competing foreign goods to turn away. [01:56.000 --> 02:04.000] Why the sudden drop in food prices? Many point to changing dietary habits, slowing Chinese demand, and the Russian embargo on Western products, [02:04.000 --> 02:09.000] which was in response to NATO and the United States imposing their embargoes on Russia over the Ukraine fiasco. [02:09.000 --> 02:14.000] It is estimated that the EU has already lost 21 billion as a result of the embargoes alone. [02:14.000 --> 02:24.000] A remote-controlled drone crashed into the seats of Armstrong Stadium in the middle of Flavio Panetta's second round win against Monika Glusku. [02:24.000 --> 02:29.000] New York police department stopped the game as they investigated. Luckily, no spectators were hit on impact. [02:29.000 --> 02:36.000] Panetta told reporters that it was a little bit scary. I mean, with all the things that happen now in the world, I'm imagining, okay, it's a bomb. [02:36.000 --> 02:44.000] That was my first reaction. [03:07.000 --> 03:11.000] Yeah. [03:16.000 --> 03:20.000] Well, I received my remedy today. [03:20.000 --> 03:24.000] It came in a box just like they say. [03:24.000 --> 03:27.000] I accepted it for value right away. [03:27.000 --> 03:31.000] It's not sooner, not later. [03:31.000 --> 03:38.000] We are originators and the pathway seems to get straighter every day. [03:38.000 --> 03:42.000] And I could take anything that belongs to me. [03:42.000 --> 03:44.000] Okay, we are back. [03:44.000 --> 03:49.000] Randy Tolton with our radio and we're talking to John in Illinois. [03:49.000 --> 03:52.000] Okay, your daughter crashed a car. [03:52.000 --> 03:56.000] And before you go any further, did she get hurt? [03:56.000 --> 03:58.000] No, no, no. [03:58.000 --> 04:05.000] Then you should be jumping up and down and clapping your hands and saying how wonderful this is. [04:05.000 --> 04:07.000] Yes. [04:07.000 --> 04:11.000] I came in one day where I'm out front working on the car. [04:11.000 --> 04:17.000] I'm there with a sledgehammer and a crowbar. [04:17.000 --> 04:25.000] And my daughter went into my wife and said, Mom, why is dad so happy when I wrecked the car? [04:25.000 --> 04:32.000] And she said, hon, you got in your first wreck and you didn't get hurt and you didn't hurt anybody else. [04:32.000 --> 04:36.000] Your father is absolutely thrilled. [04:36.000 --> 04:42.000] So that was a good one if nobody got hurt and she just banged up some pig arm. [04:42.000 --> 04:43.000] Right. [04:43.000 --> 04:46.000] Yeah, I mean, and she just went out to work. [04:46.000 --> 04:48.000] The other driver went to the police station. [04:48.000 --> 04:51.000] So later in the day, the police station contacted me. [04:51.000 --> 04:56.000] They're looking for her, going, hey, she needs to come in here and make a report. [04:56.000 --> 04:57.000] So I called her up. [04:57.000 --> 04:59.000] I'm like, were you in a car accident, Billy? [04:59.000 --> 05:02.000] Okay, you need to deal with that. [05:02.000 --> 05:05.000] I don't need the police hunting me down. [05:05.000 --> 05:11.000] But, you know, and then our insurance company said, hey, you got to fill out a form. [05:11.000 --> 05:14.000] And, you know, I had to – I mean, she's 20 years old. [05:14.000 --> 05:16.000] So I had to hound her about that. [05:16.000 --> 05:17.000] I got her to do it. [05:17.000 --> 05:23.000] And then we got a notice from the other guy's insurance company, you know, [05:23.000 --> 05:30.000] big national chain saying they – you know, our insurance company denied, you know, [05:30.000 --> 05:34.000] they're not going to pay her claim, which I didn't read our policy, [05:34.000 --> 05:35.000] but I'm going liability only. [05:35.000 --> 05:37.000] It's obvious she was at fault. [05:37.000 --> 05:38.000] No tickets were issued. [05:38.000 --> 05:41.000] But, you know, they paid their client. [05:41.000 --> 05:43.000] They paid to fix the client's car. [05:43.000 --> 05:45.000] It was like $2,900. [05:45.000 --> 05:48.000] Well, now they're suing us for it. [05:48.000 --> 05:51.000] Your insurance company is suing you for it? [05:51.000 --> 05:52.000] Yes. [05:52.000 --> 05:57.000] So they named me as the owner of the car, and then they named her as obviously the driver. [05:57.000 --> 06:00.000] So I would like to go into court. [06:00.000 --> 06:03.000] And I told my daughter, I said, you know, you can't blow this off, [06:03.000 --> 06:05.000] or they'll just issue a judgment against you. [06:05.000 --> 06:09.000] They'll find out where you work, and they'll garnish your wages. [06:09.000 --> 06:12.000] I said, you're going to have to pay for the consequences of what you did. [06:12.000 --> 06:15.000] But I'm thinking, you know what? [06:15.000 --> 06:20.000] The National Insurance Company, they honored their contract with their customer, [06:20.000 --> 06:22.000] and they paid you guys' claim. [06:22.000 --> 06:23.000] Now, you're coming after us. [06:23.000 --> 06:24.000] My daughter's 21. [06:24.000 --> 06:25.000] She goes to college. [06:25.000 --> 06:27.000] She's making $9 an hour. [06:27.000 --> 06:28.000] I'm a divorced father of five. [06:28.000 --> 06:31.000] I haven't got a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of. [06:31.000 --> 06:35.000] You know, you're trying to draw blood from stone here. [06:35.000 --> 06:38.000] I'm wondering if I can go into court, either get my, you know, [06:38.000 --> 06:41.000] make some kind of motion to get my name removed from it, [06:41.000 --> 06:48.000] because she was driving, or if I can get a continuance, do some research, [06:48.000 --> 06:53.000] go find out what that guy's policy is, and go, you paid your client's claim. [06:53.000 --> 06:54.000] Okay. [06:54.000 --> 06:55.000] File and answer. [06:55.000 --> 06:58.000] Did you file and answer? [06:58.000 --> 06:59.000] It's a civil lawsuit. [06:59.000 --> 07:01.000] No, I haven't filed anything. [07:01.000 --> 07:02.000] Okay. [07:02.000 --> 07:04.000] How long ago did they file? [07:04.000 --> 07:06.000] Oh. [07:06.000 --> 07:08.000] Let me go out to the car. [07:08.000 --> 07:10.000] I've got the... [07:10.000 --> 07:11.000] Has it been over 30 days? [07:11.000 --> 07:20.000] Because you generally have until the Monday after the 20th day from the time you receive notice. [07:20.000 --> 07:21.000] Hang on. [07:21.000 --> 07:22.000] So has it been over 20? [07:22.000 --> 07:27.000] Let's see. [07:27.000 --> 07:31.000] All we got was, she called me saying, Heather, we got someone to go to court, [07:31.000 --> 07:35.000] and then like a 21-year-old, she's just sitting there going, [07:35.000 --> 07:39.000] well, your name's in this thing too, and I'm like... [07:39.000 --> 07:40.000] Okay. [07:40.000 --> 07:41.000] Why did the insurance company... [07:41.000 --> 07:42.000] Wait a minute. [07:42.000 --> 07:43.000] Wait a minute. [07:43.000 --> 07:44.000] Answer my question here. [07:44.000 --> 07:47.000] I'm trying to figure out what your legal position is. [07:47.000 --> 07:48.000] Hang on. [07:48.000 --> 07:49.000] Okay. [07:49.000 --> 07:50.000] I'm out in the car now. [07:50.000 --> 07:51.000] Okay. [07:51.000 --> 07:58.000] If it has been over 30 days, and you need to file a motion for extension of time, [07:58.000 --> 08:04.000] and a answer, you got to get an answer in. [08:04.000 --> 08:06.000] Okay. [08:06.000 --> 08:15.000] The answer, the only thing that has to be in the answer is that you deny all claims by plaintiff. [08:15.000 --> 08:16.000] Okay. [08:16.000 --> 08:17.000] Yeah. [08:17.000 --> 08:21.000] It looks like August 11th it's stamped by the clerk. [08:21.000 --> 08:23.000] August 11th? [08:23.000 --> 08:24.000] August 11th. [08:24.000 --> 08:25.000] Yeah. [08:25.000 --> 08:28.000] We're doing court on the 15th of September. [08:28.000 --> 08:29.000] Okay. [08:29.000 --> 08:34.000] You barely, you might be able to get it in in time depending on what the rules are. [08:34.000 --> 08:37.000] But if it's 11th, you're close to the 20th. [08:37.000 --> 08:38.000] What's Labor Day? [08:38.000 --> 08:39.000] Oh, wait. [08:39.000 --> 08:40.000] Yeah. [08:40.000 --> 08:41.000] August 11th, 818 a.m. [08:41.000 --> 08:42.000] Okay. [08:42.000 --> 08:45.000] You need to check Illinois law. [08:45.000 --> 08:46.000] It's going to... [08:46.000 --> 08:51.000] I think if I remember right, Illinois is 30 days. [08:51.000 --> 08:53.000] So, you should be okay. [08:53.000 --> 08:57.000] You'll probably be okay anyway if you're just a day or so late. [08:57.000 --> 09:02.000] So, look at the form of the suit that you received. [09:02.000 --> 09:05.000] Then make the heading the same. [09:05.000 --> 09:16.000] And then all you put in there is answer and defendant denies all allegations of plaintiff. [09:16.000 --> 09:19.000] That's all that has to be in there. [09:19.000 --> 09:26.000] But you should look at what they claim and if you can deny each item individually. [09:26.000 --> 09:33.000] And you may want to consider counter suing, but you don't have to do that right away. [09:33.000 --> 09:34.000] Yeah. [09:34.000 --> 09:41.000] It says my daughter while operated the vehicle owned by and as an agent of the defendant [09:41.000 --> 09:47.000] myself, the car owner, negligently struck the plaintiff's insured vehicle causing damage [09:47.000 --> 09:48.000] or injury. [09:48.000 --> 09:49.000] So what? [09:49.000 --> 09:50.000] What's that? [09:50.000 --> 09:57.000] I said, so what? [09:57.000 --> 09:58.000] That's what she was insured for. [09:58.000 --> 09:59.000] Well, yeah, exactly. [09:59.000 --> 10:00.000] See? [10:00.000 --> 10:03.000] So my logic flies going, yeah, you honored the contract and you paid your client's claim. [10:03.000 --> 10:04.000] So, good for you. [10:04.000 --> 10:05.000] Way to go, Allstate. [10:05.000 --> 10:06.000] You paid your client's claim. [10:06.000 --> 10:07.000] Okay. [10:07.000 --> 10:17.000] What they expect for the most part is that, you know, this is the suing for a couple thousand [10:17.000 --> 10:21.000] dollars is most people can't afford. [10:21.000 --> 10:23.000] It's not enough to hire a lawyer for. [10:23.000 --> 10:29.000] So most people just won't do anything and then they get a free judgment. [10:29.000 --> 10:35.000] Once you file an answer, it's likely to stop. [10:35.000 --> 10:36.000] Okay. [10:36.000 --> 10:40.000] Now I'm following the answer on behalf of myself only, right? [10:40.000 --> 10:47.000] None of this stuff about I wasn't driving the car. [10:47.000 --> 10:48.000] It's just an answer. [10:48.000 --> 10:50.000] I deny the claims of the... [10:50.000 --> 10:51.000] Yeah. [10:51.000 --> 10:56.000] Deny all claims by plaintiffs and put your daughter's name on it too and so both have [10:56.000 --> 10:57.000] the answer. [10:57.000 --> 10:58.000] Oh, okay. [10:58.000 --> 10:59.000] So that's an answer. [10:59.000 --> 11:02.000] Does that put off the court date? [11:02.000 --> 11:04.000] No, probably not. [11:04.000 --> 11:12.000] But they're going to have to...what is the court date for? [11:12.000 --> 11:17.000] Well, they probably were assuming we wouldn't show up at court and the guy would just get [11:17.000 --> 11:18.000] an easy... [11:18.000 --> 11:19.000] No, no, no, no. [11:19.000 --> 11:22.000] Why have you been summoned to court? [11:22.000 --> 11:24.000] It's a civil lawsuit. [11:24.000 --> 11:28.000] No, it has to say on the summons. [11:28.000 --> 11:33.000] What are you going to do when you come to court? [11:33.000 --> 11:35.000] It should say in the summons. [11:35.000 --> 11:39.000] Oh, it should...that's complaint at law. [11:39.000 --> 11:43.000] Please hold and your call be answered in the order it was received. [11:43.000 --> 11:45.000] This would be the summons. [11:45.000 --> 11:46.000] Very good, Randy. [11:46.000 --> 11:47.000] See? [11:47.000 --> 11:52.000] All I do is listen to the rule of law radio, but I never thought that I'd have to...you [11:52.000 --> 11:58.000] are hereby summoned and required to appear at this court, blah, blah, blah, set address, [11:58.000 --> 11:59.000] set time. [11:59.000 --> 12:08.000] If you fail to do so, a default judgment will be taken against you. [12:08.000 --> 12:11.000] Notice to the plaintiff...no, wait. [12:11.000 --> 12:12.000] Okay. [12:12.000 --> 12:15.000] It sounds like you're being summoned to answer the complaint. [12:15.000 --> 12:21.000] And if you file an answer before the hearing, the hearing most likely will be canceled. [12:21.000 --> 12:22.000] Okay. [12:22.000 --> 12:25.000] You're hereby summoned to appear. [12:25.000 --> 12:26.000] Okay. [12:26.000 --> 12:30.000] And it doesn't say hearing or otherwise, should it? [12:30.000 --> 12:31.000] Wait. [12:31.000 --> 12:32.000] Do what? [12:32.000 --> 12:35.000] No, it's a courtroom, courtroom number 2001. [12:35.000 --> 12:37.000] You picked Choney. [12:37.000 --> 12:38.000] So... [12:38.000 --> 12:39.000] Yeah. [12:39.000 --> 12:40.000] Yeah. [12:40.000 --> 12:45.000] It's just a...you've been sued and it's a summons to answer the suit. [12:45.000 --> 12:50.000] So, you file an answer and they will most likely cancel this hearing. [12:50.000 --> 12:57.000] And then, once you've filed an answer, then the other side will have to file a motion [12:57.000 --> 12:58.000] for judgment. [12:58.000 --> 12:59.000] Okay. [12:59.000 --> 13:04.000] So, what I'm going to make them do is rack up a bunch of attorney fees where it's going. [13:04.000 --> 13:07.000] How much money do you guys want to spend chasing out $3,000? [13:07.000 --> 13:08.000] Yeah. [13:08.000 --> 13:13.000] The first thing you should do is file bar grievances against them just for yucks. [13:13.000 --> 13:16.000] Well, actually, look at the case. [13:16.000 --> 13:20.000] There goes Randy with the bar grievances again. [13:20.000 --> 13:22.000] No, you just want to check those dues, don't you? [13:22.000 --> 13:23.000] Oh. [13:23.000 --> 13:28.000] These guys want to use their bar card to coerce money out of you? [13:28.000 --> 13:29.000] Well... [13:29.000 --> 13:30.000] Yeah. [13:30.000 --> 13:33.000] Nice place to go is attack their bar card. [13:33.000 --> 13:35.000] And this is not about punishing them. [13:35.000 --> 13:36.000] It's all about the money. [13:36.000 --> 13:40.000] They're trying to coerce you into paying them money. [13:40.000 --> 13:45.000] So, you raise the bar a little bit, so to speak. [13:45.000 --> 13:48.000] Pun intended. [13:48.000 --> 13:53.000] That's not a bar grievance against me. [13:53.000 --> 13:54.000] Yeah, because you're stupid. [13:54.000 --> 13:57.000] You're trying to drop one from stone. [13:57.000 --> 13:59.000] Well, not that. [13:59.000 --> 14:07.000] You insured the vehicle against an accident in which you were at fault. [14:07.000 --> 14:08.000] Right. [14:08.000 --> 14:11.000] You had an accident wherein you were at fault. [14:11.000 --> 14:16.000] And now they want to recover from you the insurance you paid for. [14:16.000 --> 14:21.000] So, bar grievance for filing a frivolous pleading. [14:21.000 --> 14:22.000] Okay. [14:22.000 --> 14:24.000] All right. [14:24.000 --> 14:28.000] Yeah, I have no reason not to. [14:28.000 --> 14:32.000] I have every reason to upset these people because this really is ridiculous. [14:32.000 --> 14:37.000] Like I said, if we're paying premiums for insurance, the other driver's paying premiums, [14:37.000 --> 14:41.000] then you get in an accident, they pay your claim, that's what they're supposed to do. [14:41.000 --> 14:45.000] To continue to try to chase more money is just absolutely... [14:45.000 --> 14:48.000] When I was in Illinois, Illinois was a no-fault state. [14:48.000 --> 14:50.000] Is it still a no-fault state? [14:50.000 --> 14:54.000] I guess it's not. [14:54.000 --> 14:59.000] Well, like I said, if there's no traffic ticket issues, right? [14:59.000 --> 15:02.000] Well, it used to be no fault. [15:02.000 --> 15:10.000] So, you have insurance and your insurance fixed your car, even if it wasn't your fault. [15:10.000 --> 15:13.000] And each guy's insurance took care of his issue. [15:13.000 --> 15:16.000] So, we didn't have these back and forth things. [15:16.000 --> 15:18.000] So, they must have changed that. [15:18.000 --> 15:22.000] Yeah, just file your answer and then do a little research. [15:22.000 --> 15:28.000] Look at their complaint and see what they claim. [15:28.000 --> 15:32.000] They're claiming you were at fault, so what? [15:32.000 --> 15:34.000] You're claiming that that's exactly why you had insurance. [15:34.000 --> 15:43.000] Now, they need to show in their complaint why your insurance didn't cover what occurred. [15:43.000 --> 15:44.000] Okay. [15:44.000 --> 15:47.000] And good chance they don't have it in there. [15:47.000 --> 15:56.000] And if they don't have it or it's improper, then that's a frivolous pleading. [15:56.000 --> 16:06.000] Then you file an answer and then you file a countersuit against them. [16:06.000 --> 16:09.000] This plays stakes a little bit. [16:09.000 --> 16:12.000] This would be a great education for you. [16:12.000 --> 16:14.000] Yeah, that's what I was wondering. [16:14.000 --> 16:15.000] All right. [16:15.000 --> 16:17.000] So, let me – I'll file the answer. [16:17.000 --> 16:18.000] We deny the – right? [16:18.000 --> 16:20.000] We deny the claim or – [16:20.000 --> 16:22.000] Deny all claims by plaintiffs. [16:22.000 --> 16:26.000] Oh, hang on. [16:26.000 --> 16:28.000] And then have a closer look at it. [16:28.000 --> 16:33.000] You might have yourself a private attorney general suit against them. [16:33.000 --> 16:35.000] We'll pick this up on the other side. 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[19:41.000 --> 19:51.000] And the producer brought up an issue on the parade, a question that was probably we need to address about an answer. [19:51.000 --> 20:03.000] A lot of times you'll have an answer filed with your, you'll have a counterclaim filed with your answer. [20:03.000 --> 20:08.000] However, not always, and you don't have to file the counterclaim with the answer. [20:08.000 --> 20:18.000] But in this instance, you don't really know what their claim is at the moment. [20:18.000 --> 20:27.000] Or how they got to their claim, because this goes to insurance law, something of which you're not well-versed. [20:27.000 --> 20:35.000] So it'll take you a while to do your research, and you may have to do some discovery. [20:35.000 --> 20:44.000] But if this turns out that they have filed this suit and they really don't have any grounds, [20:44.000 --> 20:48.000] that's sufficient to ask for sanctions. [20:48.000 --> 20:56.000] However, on a suit this small, for the most part, people will ignore it. [20:56.000 --> 21:01.000] Because for the most part, something this small, people, they don't know anything about this. [21:01.000 --> 21:09.000] They go to a lawyer, the lawyer's going to want $4,000 or $5,000 to represent them in a $3,000 suit. [21:09.000 --> 21:11.000] It's just not worth it. [21:11.000 --> 21:14.000] And so the people just ignore it. [21:14.000 --> 21:19.000] The lawyers get a default judgment, and they get to collect this money. [21:19.000 --> 21:28.000] So for filing a lawsuit, they just pull out of the drawer and put the names and dates in and file it. [21:28.000 --> 21:32.000] They get to collect their $4,000. [21:32.000 --> 21:37.000] I wonder how many people they're doing this to. [21:37.000 --> 21:46.000] And once you've looked at the policy, it would be reasonable to consider that the policy actually covers you. [21:46.000 --> 21:56.000] And if it's clear that the suit is frivolous, then you have a private attorney general suit. [21:56.000 --> 22:04.000] A private attorney general suit is a suit, you know, [22:04.000 --> 22:09.000] we have guys in legal reform talking about the existence of a private attorney general. [22:09.000 --> 22:11.000] Well, there isn't one. [22:11.000 --> 22:16.000] This is just what they happen to call this kind of suit, [22:16.000 --> 22:27.000] where the amount of the individual action is so low that most people can't afford to take on the issue. [22:27.000 --> 22:31.000] So it opens the door for just this kind of abuse. [22:31.000 --> 22:38.000] So in order to close that door, you can file a private attorney general suit. [22:38.000 --> 22:50.000] And what a private attorney general suit is, is where you sue in your own behalf and on behalf of those similarly situated. [22:50.000 --> 22:58.000] So you look at the insurance policy, and if the policy shows that you're clearly covered, [22:58.000 --> 23:04.000] then you put them in a little dance with discovery. [23:04.000 --> 23:09.000] You want to see how many similar suits they filed. [23:09.000 --> 23:16.000] So you can look at those, and if you find a pattern of abusive behavior, [23:16.000 --> 23:26.000] then you can sue to recover in your own benefit and in all of those others that have been similarly mistreated. [23:26.000 --> 23:30.000] Then you really raise the bar on them. [23:30.000 --> 23:34.000] It's always more fun when you're going after them. [23:34.000 --> 23:35.000] Go ahead. [23:35.000 --> 23:41.000] But that would be the law firm that's doing this on behalf of the insurance company, right? [23:41.000 --> 23:42.000] Yes. [23:42.000 --> 23:45.000] It would be the law firm. [23:45.000 --> 23:47.000] They can claim they're acting for the insurance company. [23:47.000 --> 23:50.000] You don't care. [23:50.000 --> 23:59.000] The law firm is the one that has a duty not to file a frivolous plea, not the insurance company. [23:59.000 --> 24:08.000] So you sue the law firm directly, and that will give them apoplexy because that's going to send their insurance premiums to the roof. [24:08.000 --> 24:13.000] Then their insurance company would be doing to them what they're trying to do to you. [24:13.000 --> 24:23.000] Yeah, and what is the national insurance chain, and what are they being charged per hour by this law firm to drop this paperwork? [24:23.000 --> 24:25.000] I mean, you're chasing down $3,000. [24:25.000 --> 24:27.000] How much are you going to pay to do this? [24:27.000 --> 24:36.000] Unless you file an answer, or I show up, or I make them do more paperwork, they're coming back. [24:36.000 --> 24:42.000] In the end, you'll never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side. [24:42.000 --> 24:45.000] To think so is naive. [24:45.000 --> 24:56.000] You will win your case if you have the politics on your side, and all politics is local, and all politics follows the money. [24:56.000 --> 24:59.000] Yes, follow the money, exactly. [24:59.000 --> 25:08.000] And one of the things you like to do is attack an innocent party. [25:08.000 --> 25:21.000] If this law firm is using this maneuver to collect money, you know, $2,900 lawsuit, the law firm's going to take most of that. [25:21.000 --> 25:30.000] So this may be a scam the law firms are pulling just to get money from clients. [25:30.000 --> 25:40.000] And the insurance company may or may not realize that they're filing frivolous pleadings. [25:40.000 --> 25:47.000] So you might file a complaint with the insurance commission and the Better Business Bureau. [25:47.000 --> 25:52.000] Better Business Bureau really gets them excited. [25:52.000 --> 26:01.000] My wife bought a couch for $6,000 for a special order couch. [26:01.000 --> 26:03.000] It turned out to be garbage. [26:03.000 --> 26:06.000] She bought a couch for you to sleep on. [26:06.000 --> 26:10.000] You couldn't even sit on this thing. It was horrible. [26:10.000 --> 26:15.000] So they were going to charge 40% to take it back. [26:15.000 --> 26:27.000] So I sent them a tort letter, and the bulk of the tort letter was the verbiage of the complaint I filed with the Better Business Bureau. [26:27.000 --> 26:32.000] They couldn't get my money back to me fast enough. [26:32.000 --> 26:35.000] Nice. Okay. [26:35.000 --> 26:38.000] There's a lot of politics you've got. [26:38.000 --> 26:46.000] And a complaint against an insurance board, especially if there's an indication that this is a pattern of abuse, [26:46.000 --> 26:53.000] that'll get the insurance company jumping up and down and get them real unhappy. [26:53.000 --> 26:56.000] And again, what I'm doing is I'm calling Bev Bluff. [26:56.000 --> 27:04.000] Now, what I haven't done yet is I haven't called my insurance company to say, why didn't you pay this claim, right? [27:04.000 --> 27:06.000] Oh, wait. Hold on. Hold on. [27:06.000 --> 27:07.000] Maybe I missed something. [27:07.000 --> 27:11.000] I thought these guys were with your insurance company. [27:11.000 --> 27:15.000] No, this is – no. I would say that I had – [27:15.000 --> 27:19.000] Okay. So this is the opposing insurance company. [27:19.000 --> 27:21.000] Yeah. [27:21.000 --> 27:24.000] Oh, okay. [27:24.000 --> 27:28.000] Yeah. This is like the national chain. [27:28.000 --> 27:32.000] They paid for their client's car, and now they're standing around and suing me for it. [27:32.000 --> 27:36.000] Okay. This changes everything. [27:36.000 --> 27:39.000] Okay. Yeah. [27:39.000 --> 27:44.000] This is probably what they have to do in order to collect. [27:44.000 --> 27:52.000] The other party can't sue your insurance company because your insurance company doesn't insure them. [27:52.000 --> 27:55.000] Your insurance company insures you. [27:55.000 --> 28:08.000] So they have to make a claim against you and get a judgment against you, and then your insurance company pays the judgment. [28:08.000 --> 28:15.000] But there's still no reason to make it easy for them. [28:15.000 --> 28:25.000] Okay. Okay. So they have to take me to court, get a judgment, find my daughter at fault in the accident, [28:25.000 --> 28:30.000] and then when the judgment's rendered, they'll send the bill to my insurance company? [28:30.000 --> 28:34.000] Yeah. Well, then you'll send the bill to your insurance company. [28:34.000 --> 28:38.000] Oh, I got you. Okay. So – oh. All right. [28:38.000 --> 28:41.000] Well, I'm going to have to go dig up because, I mean, you know – [28:41.000 --> 28:48.000] You might check. I'm not terribly familiar with insurance law, but in order for the other – [28:48.000 --> 28:55.000] the other part – the other insurance company has paid to fix their client's vehicle. [28:55.000 --> 28:57.000] Yes. Right. [28:57.000 --> 29:03.000] And now they have to get a judgment in order to collect from your insurance company. [29:03.000 --> 29:11.000] Apparently, because I would think there were insurance laws that would govern this, [29:11.000 --> 29:16.000] but I'm not really fluent in insurance law. [29:16.000 --> 29:24.000] But the other insurance company has been out this money through no fault of theirs and no fault of their client. [29:24.000 --> 29:27.000] Now they have a right to collect that money back. [29:27.000 --> 29:33.000] They would come to you to get the money back, and then you go to your lawyer. [29:33.000 --> 29:42.000] You might take this lawsuit to – make sure you get it answered, and then take it to your insurance company. [29:42.000 --> 29:45.000] And they're most likely handling it. [29:45.000 --> 29:47.000] All right. Thanks, Randy. I've got to go. [29:47.000 --> 30:01.000] Okay. Thank you. And Randy Kelton, we have our radio. I call it number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back. [30:01.000 --> 30:09.000] Do you get jittery without your cell phone or iPod? If so, you may be suffering from what scientists now call gadget withdrawal. [30:09.000 --> 30:16.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, back with details on a study into information deprivation disorder next. [30:16.000 --> 30:21.000] Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [30:21.000 --> 30:26.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [30:26.000 --> 30:31.000] So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [30:31.000 --> 30:34.000] Privacy. It's worth hanging on to. 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[34:15.000 --> 34:20.000] Hello, Mr. Terrence, what do you have for us today? [34:20.000 --> 34:21.000] Oh, good evening, Randy. [34:21.000 --> 34:24.000] Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on just a second. [34:24.000 --> 34:38.000] I have Jeff Cedric up on the bridge, and he would like, he had a comment about the last caller. [34:38.000 --> 34:47.000] Jeff, you want to? Yeah, I'm a little concerned, because I do not know if he has notified his insurance company he's being sued or not. [34:47.000 --> 34:55.000] But if he has not, he needs to read his policy to see what happens, because in a number of cases I've seen, [34:55.000 --> 35:03.000] where somebody gets sued, they do not notify the insurance company, who in turn will put a lawyer in court for him. [35:03.000 --> 35:12.000] If they are denied that and he gets a judgment against them, the insurance company will disavow. [35:12.000 --> 35:22.000] So that was, yeah, I was running out of time at the end, but finally, I thought he said his insurance company was suing him, [35:22.000 --> 35:24.000] and that's why I thought it was so outrageous. [35:24.000 --> 35:33.000] But if it's the other insurance company suing him, then he needed to get that to his insurance company, and they would cover it. [35:33.000 --> 35:37.000] Well, that sort of explains why I was a little confused with your response. [35:37.000 --> 35:44.000] Yeah, because I was, I misunderstood it. I kind of got it sorted out. [35:44.000 --> 35:53.000] He kind of made it easy for you. Yeah, he really did. He kind of made it easy for you, the way he was explaining things. [35:53.000 --> 35:58.000] Do you mean easy for me to get it wrong? Yes. [35:58.000 --> 36:06.000] Hey, I am good at getting it wrong. You don't have to make it easy for me. I can get it wrong even when it's hard. [36:06.000 --> 36:11.000] Yeah, I can. But let's take care of Mr. Tarrant. [36:11.000 --> 36:18.000] If you get in an accident, you've got insurance, and the other party's insurance company sues you, [36:18.000 --> 36:25.000] get that to your insurance carrier immediately, and they will handle the answer. [36:25.000 --> 36:33.000] You should notify your insurance company immediately anyway, even if you don't have collision coverage on that, [36:33.000 --> 36:42.000] but you do have liability, because if they sue you, they're going to want to put an attorney in court to represent you to keep their exposure down. [36:42.000 --> 36:50.000] Yeah, but even if you have notified your insurance company that you were in an accident, [36:50.000 --> 36:56.000] if you get sued, you need to make sure you notify them that you actually got sued. [36:56.000 --> 37:02.000] Don't expect them to know that, because as far as I know, they won't even get served. [37:02.000 --> 37:06.000] So only you will know. Right. [37:06.000 --> 37:13.000] And if you don't tell them and give them opportunity to defend, they're going to say, sorry, Bubba, life is tough. [37:13.000 --> 37:16.000] Yeah, right. [37:16.000 --> 37:22.000] Okay, now we're going to go to Tarrant's in Florida. Okay, Tarrant, let's go ahead. [37:22.000 --> 37:23.000] I'm on now. [37:23.000 --> 37:25.000] You are on. [37:25.000 --> 37:35.000] All right. I wanted to get back to the story about the clerk in Kentucky. [37:35.000 --> 37:37.000] Yes. [37:37.000 --> 37:48.000] Well, I think the crime that took place was her being locked in a cage for contempt of judge. [37:48.000 --> 37:57.000] What she did did not, seems to me, did not cause anybody any harm. [37:57.000 --> 38:01.000] So she shouldn't be in a cage. She may be... [38:01.000 --> 38:11.000] I think you're missing. That wasn't a harm to her. That was an opportunity. [38:11.000 --> 38:23.000] I mean, how often do you and I get an opportunity to do the right thing for the right reason and take whatever comes? [38:23.000 --> 38:33.000] You know, a few years ago, I filed some criminal charges against a judge in Cherokee County to help out Robert Fox. [38:33.000 --> 38:45.000] And they immediately prosecuted me for filing those criminal complaints and found me guilty because the judge just lied to the jury. [38:45.000 --> 38:51.000] But I told the jury that whatever happens here is not going to matter. [38:51.000 --> 39:02.000] The prosecutor got up there with a red, white, and blue tie, and he held up his credentials so that he had been in Vietnam. [39:02.000 --> 39:12.000] I told him, yeah, I had to. And I paid heavy for my rights, and my brother paid an even heavier price. [39:12.000 --> 39:18.000] So in the end, it makes no difference what you do because when you're done, I'm still going to be there. [39:18.000 --> 39:23.000] Well, they found me guilty and sentenced me to a year in prison. [39:23.000 --> 39:28.000] So I'd spent about 30 days, 27 days in solitary confinement. [39:28.000 --> 39:32.000] And I stand in there one day looking in that stainless steel mirror. [39:32.000 --> 39:43.000] And I said to myself, self, you were pretty sanctimonious there when you were telling that jury to do their worst. [39:43.000 --> 39:52.000] Did you mean it? And standing in that jail cell after being in solitary confinement for three weeks, [39:52.000 --> 40:00.000] I thought about it a minute and I said, absolutely, I meant it. [40:00.000 --> 40:11.000] That was an incredible gift to me. It's not often we get to test ourselves. [40:11.000 --> 40:17.000] And this clerk got a great opportunity to test herself. [40:17.000 --> 40:23.000] We can huff and puff and say all this stuff about what we will do. [40:23.000 --> 40:28.000] But when the rubber meets the road, we find out what we're really made of. [40:28.000 --> 40:37.000] And every once in a while, we need an opportunity not to prove anything to anybody else, but to ourselves. [40:37.000 --> 40:42.000] And I think for her, this is a great opportunity. [40:42.000 --> 40:45.000] Well, that's all well and good. [40:45.000 --> 40:53.000] But still, you know, she may be able to make a stand, say like Rosa Parks, the law is wrong. [40:53.000 --> 40:54.000] Yes. [40:54.000 --> 41:03.000] And there's got to be a conscience in the officers and the judges and the prosecutors that the law is wrong. [41:03.000 --> 41:07.000] They've read a book that was written by some stranger. [41:07.000 --> 41:08.000] They have no idea. [41:08.000 --> 41:15.000] And for some odd reason, they get this idea that because they read a book, they get to pound that book on somebody's head. [41:15.000 --> 41:20.000] Wait a minute. You're not talking about the Bible, are you? [41:20.000 --> 41:22.000] The code, the law. [41:22.000 --> 41:24.000] Oh, the code. Okay. [41:24.000 --> 41:28.000] I want to make sure I was in the right place. [41:28.000 --> 41:30.000] Well, it doesn't matter what book it is. [41:30.000 --> 41:35.000] If you read the Bible, you can't beat me on the head with your Bible to get me to go your way. [41:35.000 --> 41:41.000] If you read the Code of Texas, well, just because you wear a costume with a badge and a gun, [41:41.000 --> 41:47.000] doesn't mean you get to pound me on the head with that book because you read it, so somehow you get to beat me up with it. [41:47.000 --> 41:49.000] It's all... [41:49.000 --> 41:50.000] Wait a minute. Wait a minute. [41:50.000 --> 41:55.000] That's exactly what his position means. [41:55.000 --> 41:58.000] He's the arbiter. [41:58.000 --> 42:09.000] And, you know, I suspect that the judge who sentenced her to contempt almost certainly had no animosity toward her at all [42:09.000 --> 42:15.000] and almost certainly admired her for the stand she was taking. [42:15.000 --> 42:26.000] But if he didn't visit harm on her, then that would dramatically weaken her position. [42:26.000 --> 42:33.000] There's a good chance that everybody there is working to get this ruling overturned. [42:33.000 --> 42:40.000] Well, that could be, but when he's giving her contempt of judge [42:40.000 --> 42:50.000] and he's not citing malfeasance or misfeasance or anything that she could actually be held accountable to... [42:50.000 --> 42:51.000] Well, he can't... [42:51.000 --> 42:53.000] There's something wrong there. [42:53.000 --> 42:58.000] Well, it would take the local prosecuting attorney to charge her with... [42:58.000 --> 43:03.000] That would be misfeasance in office, failing to perform the duties required to perform. [43:03.000 --> 43:05.000] That's a state issue. [43:05.000 --> 43:10.000] And this is a federal judge, so that's not his business. [43:10.000 --> 43:19.000] The federal judge has a right to enforce the sanctity of the court. [43:19.000 --> 43:27.000] And this is a right he has and essentially a duty he has to ensure that when a federal court issues an order [43:27.000 --> 43:32.000] that those to whom the order is issued pays attention to the court. [43:32.000 --> 43:36.000] So the court's in the right. [43:36.000 --> 43:38.000] Hang on, we'll pick this up on the other side. [43:38.000 --> 43:42.000] That is a good point. [43:42.000 --> 43:49.000] We'll address this when we come back on the other side. Randy Kelton, rule of law radio, I call in number 512-646-1984. [43:49.000 --> 43:51.000] We'll be right back. 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[45:52.000 --> 46:14.000] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll free 866-LAW-EZ. [46:14.000 --> 46:24.000] Whoa, whoa, yeah. [46:24.000 --> 46:30.000] Always I must be careful what I'm wishing for. [46:30.000 --> 46:35.000] When I'm hungry, I like to know just what I'm fishing for. [46:35.000 --> 46:40.000] I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton. [46:40.000 --> 46:47.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio, and we're talking to Terrence in Florida. [46:47.000 --> 46:54.000] Terrence, hang on for a second. Jeff had a real good point on this. [46:54.000 --> 47:04.000] Jeff, will you address the issue of the prohibition against issuing marriage license to sodomites? [47:04.000 --> 47:13.000] Well, yeah. Kentucky has laws that prohibit marriage licenses being issued to gay and lesbian couples. [47:13.000 --> 47:28.000] And so she was upholding that law, and her position was the issuing of marriage license is strictly a state function in that the Supreme Court had no jurisdiction to interfere. [47:28.000 --> 47:41.000] Okay, and on top of that, what was also probably not disclosed is that she was not issuing any marriage licenses, none. [47:41.000 --> 47:49.000] So she deliberately did not single anyone out for special treatment. [47:49.000 --> 48:02.000] Right, and so the one thing the courts are real afraid of, and there's been a number of talking heads that have advocated civil disobedience on this. [48:02.000 --> 48:06.000] And that's what the courts are afraid of. [48:06.000 --> 48:13.000] And that's a good position. She's arguing to change the law. [48:13.000 --> 48:20.000] And I suspect that everybody involved here knows that that's exactly what's going on. [48:20.000 --> 48:27.000] This is how we get it. If you want the law changed, this is how we get it changed. [48:27.000 --> 48:39.000] So I started out in one position, and now I've had to change that position radically. [48:39.000 --> 48:50.000] Well, at the same time, I can't help but wonder if the name of that document shouldn't be changed anyway. [48:50.000 --> 48:52.000] You're talking about marriage license. [48:52.000 --> 48:56.000] It's not illegal to get married. You don't need a license to get married. [48:56.000 --> 49:09.000] So if you're attempting to be able to capture governmental benefits, then it should be a civil union, period. [49:09.000 --> 49:20.000] Well, in order to get the government benefits, you need to enter into the license agreement with the state. [49:20.000 --> 49:22.000] And that's all it's about. [49:22.000 --> 49:25.000] That's a civil union, right. [49:25.000 --> 49:39.000] And that was the primary reason this came up to start with, is that we had gay couples where one of the couples was very ill, [49:39.000 --> 49:47.000] and the other one not only could not sign for his medical treatment, couldn't even visit him in the hospital. [49:47.000 --> 49:58.000] And they were essentially a couple, and they paid the same Social Security that we do, [49:58.000 --> 50:12.000] but they couldn't enjoy the Social Security benefits the way a regular couple could, a regular married couple could. [50:12.000 --> 50:16.000] So it's all about money. The whole thing was about money. [50:16.000 --> 50:28.000] So it was about the license. It wasn't about them being married. [50:28.000 --> 50:42.000] But it does go back to the issue that the federal court ruled that the state law was void. [50:42.000 --> 50:51.000] And she's still standing on the state law in order to change the state. [50:51.000 --> 50:57.000] Most states, I wouldn't be surprised if they all do, and I know Maryland does, [50:57.000 --> 51:06.000] has a statute in which it says that the state does not recognize common law marriage. [51:06.000 --> 51:16.000] Texas does. Texas says that if you live together for three days, [51:16.000 --> 51:25.000] and you have a joint bank account, and you present yourself as a couple, you're common law married. [51:25.000 --> 51:36.000] In DC, all you have to do is introduce them as your spouse. This is my wife. This is my husband. You're married. [51:36.000 --> 51:42.000] But you're not in a license contract. [51:42.000 --> 51:48.000] Yeah, you're in a civil union with the state. [51:48.000 --> 51:57.000] Okay. Let me understand what you were saying again. The state can't recognize a common law marriage for the purpose of state benefits. [51:57.000 --> 52:00.000] I think we should be going back on. [52:00.000 --> 52:10.000] Oh, I thought we were. Oh, let's go back on. I never heard of you. No, we are on. We're six minutes in. [52:10.000 --> 52:14.000] I'm sorry. You guys can't hear the other side of my conversation. [52:14.000 --> 52:24.000] I was pretty sure you were speaking to me. Okay. Now I got into where we were, Jeff. [52:24.000 --> 52:32.000] State doesn't recognize a common law marriage as a marriage that qualifies them for state benefits, [52:32.000 --> 52:35.000] because they're not really in a contract with the state. [52:35.000 --> 52:37.000] Right. [52:37.000 --> 52:44.000] Okay. So I was trying to understand why they both have common law marriages, how they're not recognized. [52:44.000 --> 52:49.000] And everything about this was about gays trying to get government benefits. [52:49.000 --> 52:51.000] Right. [52:51.000 --> 52:55.000] Well, not just government, also the other rights that spouses have. [52:55.000 --> 52:57.000] Right. [52:57.000 --> 52:59.000] Okay. Terrence, are you there? [52:59.000 --> 53:00.000] Yes. [53:00.000 --> 53:04.000] We kind of preempted you, my bad. [53:04.000 --> 53:08.000] I don't mind the discussion at all. It helps. [53:08.000 --> 53:20.000] But then it gets back to the point to where the federal government is seizing the hold of a state employee, [53:20.000 --> 53:24.000] because the state employee is doing her job. [53:24.000 --> 53:37.000] It should actually seize the governor or the attorney general or someone who has capacity to control the clerk. [53:37.000 --> 53:47.000] But just a contempt, a contempt is such the lowest, most vile, vulgar form of seizure of a body [53:47.000 --> 53:56.000] that that judge cannot cite where the clerk has actually broken the law and somehow caused somebody harm. [53:56.000 --> 54:04.000] Well, he can. He can. 18 U.S. Code 242. [54:04.000 --> 54:07.000] It's a public official act to manage the code of the authority. [54:07.000 --> 54:11.000] And I've been told I'm quoting this wrong, and I am. [54:11.000 --> 54:17.000] It's right in substance, not exactly the quote in the actual verse. [54:17.000 --> 54:24.000] But then again, Randy, there's got to be a separation of federal and state. [54:24.000 --> 54:25.000] Then there is. [54:25.000 --> 54:27.000] Federal judge. [54:27.000 --> 54:31.000] This went to a constitutional right. [54:31.000 --> 54:41.000] And the state, the state's got away with the 17th Amendment. [54:41.000 --> 54:45.000] Say that again, Jeff. [54:45.000 --> 54:53.000] I'm going to ask that you hearken back to that attorney that was having a discussion with you and Deborah [54:53.000 --> 55:03.000] about Timothy McVeigh and their appeal to the circuit court and the circuit court writing back to the attorney [55:03.000 --> 55:09.000] and said, you need to go look at the 17th Amendment. [55:09.000 --> 55:14.000] This was Harmon Taylor that said the court hit him with a pattern. [55:14.000 --> 55:27.000] Right. Because the state is this layer over the states of the union and the states of the union are counties within the state. [55:27.000 --> 55:35.000] So they could move him from Oklahoma to Colorado for trial because they were not moving him out of the state. [55:35.000 --> 55:40.000] They were moving him out of the county. [55:40.000 --> 55:45.000] That I don't remember that. [55:45.000 --> 55:47.000] No, I don't remember that. [55:47.000 --> 55:51.000] And he says the court told him it's right there in the 17th Amendment. [55:51.000 --> 55:55.000] Go look it up. [55:55.000 --> 56:00.000] I will have to read that. [56:00.000 --> 56:02.000] OK. [56:02.000 --> 56:04.000] What does the 17th Amendment say? [56:04.000 --> 56:10.000] I appreciate what the gentleman is saying about the contempt of court. [56:10.000 --> 56:14.000] I don't know if he heard what I had to say about civil disobedience or not. [56:14.000 --> 56:22.000] But in case he did not, there have been a number of talking heads that have called for or out there advocating [56:22.000 --> 56:30.000] when it comes to this civil disobedience to this particular judicial ruling by the Supreme Court. [56:30.000 --> 56:38.000] I think this particular court is real concerned about the civil disobedience being displayed here [56:38.000 --> 56:44.000] and he wants to nip it in the bud before other people decide they're going to join the parade. [56:44.000 --> 56:47.000] Well, I'm not so sure about that. [56:47.000 --> 56:55.000] In order to give the clerk standing to raise an issue, she has to be harmed. [56:55.000 --> 57:00.000] And the judge gave her the harm she needed to address the issue. [57:00.000 --> 57:08.000] So the court may actually have been assisting her in her attempt to get this overturned. [57:08.000 --> 57:10.000] Well, maybe. [57:10.000 --> 57:14.000] But we may start seeing more and more of this civil disobedience. [57:14.000 --> 57:18.000] We are seeing more and more whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork, aren't we? [57:18.000 --> 57:19.000] Yep. [57:19.000 --> 57:21.000] We need lots of civil disobedience. [57:21.000 --> 57:26.000] We're seeing some low-level civil passive resistance to this. [57:26.000 --> 57:40.000] And in one particular article that I read, they reported that the judge said that he was going to make an example of her, [57:40.000 --> 57:44.000] which told me he's scared to death of civil disobedience [57:44.000 --> 57:49.000] and he's going to try and nip it in the bud before he gets out of hand. [57:49.000 --> 57:51.000] And that could be. [57:51.000 --> 57:56.000] I haven't read anything about the case, so I didn't know what the position was. [57:56.000 --> 58:00.000] But the judge would have to take that position in any case. [58:00.000 --> 58:03.000] I understood. [58:03.000 --> 58:08.000] So it may well all be just huffing and puffing. [58:08.000 --> 58:14.000] I suspect that most of these conservative judges don't like it. [58:14.000 --> 58:15.000] Okay, hang on. [58:15.000 --> 58:16.000] We're about to go to break. [58:16.000 --> 58:21.000] This is Randy Kelton, Rudelaw Radio, here with Mr. Jeff Cedric. [58:21.000 --> 58:25.000] I call the number 512-646-1984. [58:25.000 --> 58:26.000] Give us a call. [58:26.000 --> 58:31.000] This is the top-of-the-hour break, so you might, during the three-minute break, [58:31.000 --> 58:37.000] go to Logos Radio Network and check out our sponsors and help support this network. [58:37.000 --> 58:50.000] We'll be right back. [59:07.000 --> 59:10.000] We'll be right back. [59:37.000 --> 59:41.000] That's 888-551-0102. [59:41.000 --> 59:45.000] That's 888-551-0102. [59:45.000 --> 59:53.000] Or visit us online at bfa.org. 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[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:45.000] That was my first reaction. [01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.000] If you have a product or a service you'd like to advertise in accordance with our lowdown, [01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.000] feel free to give us a call. [01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.000] 210-863-5617. [01:02:54.000 --> 01:03:22.000] This has been your Lowdown for September 4, 2013. [01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:29.000] OK, we are back. [01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:34.000] Randy Kelton, U of L radio, here with Mr. Jeff Sedgwick. [01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.000] We're talking to Terrence in Florida. [01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:44.000] Terrence, we kind of bushwhacked you there and never did let you get to what you wanted to say. [01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:50.000] I take it you have a comment rather than a question. [01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:57.000] I suppose I have a point of view, but the discussion didn't distract me at all. [01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.000] Actually, it all fits in. [01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.000] Every scenario is a plausible thought. [01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000] Maybe the judge is helping her. [01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.000] Maybe he's hindering her. [01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:19.000] But what seems to be not addressed, at least in the suit, and the judge won't do it, [01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.000] which he should, or which is what I think the judge should be, [01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:30.000] is where does the state or the federal government at all have capacity to determine [01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.000] whatever a marriage is or isn't? [01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:42.000] Or they at least come out and be forthwith or up front and out in the open and say, [01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:52.000] marriage, as far as government is concerned, has nothing to do with God or church or religion or beliefs. [01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:00.000] Marriage with the state is a trust corporation that has nothing to do with love and matrimony [01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.000] and raising children in a family. [01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:10.000] It has everything to do with a corporation and the seizure or surrender of your rights to be men and women. [01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.000] Well, okay, I don't know. [01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:24.000] It is a civil contract with the state, and I absolutely agree it has nothing to do with love or raising kids [01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.000] or any of that kind of stuff. [01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.000] It's a civil contract. [01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:35.000] And it should be stated so right in the open by the judge that I am ruling this way [01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.000] because I have capacity because of that reason. [01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.000] That is a very good point. [01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:52.000] A marriage contract is, I mean, not a marriage contract, that's something else. [01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:57.000] A marriage license is an application made to the state. [01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:06.000] It is a contract between the state and the individuals involved. [01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:15.000] And the federal government has a prohibition to interfere with the private contract. [01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:24.000] So that does raise the question, how does the Fed get there? [01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:30.000] So this doesn't go to a right. [01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:35.000] A license is a privilege. [01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:44.000] The state will issue a license if you agree to certain conditions and meet certain conditions. [01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.000] So it's not a right. [01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.000] You know, if I want to be a plumber, I can get a plumber's license, [01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.000] but I have to meet certain conditions and I have to agree to certain things. [01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:01.000] If I want to operate commercially on the highway, I can get a license. [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.000] It's not a right. [01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.000] It's a privilege to operate commercially on the highway. [01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:18.000] So, Jess, you've got a comment on how does the federal government manage to get here? [01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:32.000] The only way I can see that it could possibly get there would be through civil rights and some form of discrimination. [01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.000] Bingo. [01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:39.000] Well, can you discriminate in a contract? [01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.000] You know, if I want to be a plumber, the state office... [01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:51.000] The answer keeps in mind, Randy, those are not private contracts. [01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:57.000] They're private as far as the federal government is concerned. [01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:58.000] Are they? [01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.000] Yes. [01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:04.000] It's a contract between the individuals and the state. [01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.000] It's not any of the federal government's business. [01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.000] And they're forbidden to interfere with private contracts. [01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.000] They say that it's a private contract. [01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.000] That is a good question. [01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:25.000] If I go down to the state and they want me to work on their core health and re-enter into a contract, [01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.000] is that a private contract or is that a public contract? [01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:29.000] Well, that's put out for bid. [01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.000] No, it's not a private contract. [01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:32.000] It's a public contract. [01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.000] How is it... [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.000] Okay, what does private contract mean? [01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:43.000] Between you and I. [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:48.000] What about if it's between a... [01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:55.000] Okay, so you're saying that any contract with any governmental entity is a public contract. [01:08:55.000 --> 01:09:02.000] What I'm saying is that I don't know that it isn't. [01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:15.000] And even if it was a public contract, how does the federal government preempt a state's entering into a contract? [01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:27.000] And that's why I'm saying that even if it's a public contract in the state, it's still state business, not federal business. [01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:40.000] I don't know that either because I don't know whether underlying contracts may exist between the federal government and the state that makes it the federal government's business. [01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.000] Wait a minute. [01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000] Say that again. [01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:57.000] I do not know what contracts may exist between the federal government and the state government that might make it a federal issue. [01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:02.000] And that might well go to Social Security. [01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:05.000] Well, you're not required to join Social Security. [01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:23.000] Right, but Social Security is a federal program and part of one of the benefits you get when you enter into a state marriage contract is you get access to federal benefits. [01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:31.000] That may not be how they do get there, but that certainly sounds like how they could get there. [01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:33.000] Yeah. [01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:40.000] Does that make sense? [01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:46.000] Well, how do we know that if we don't know how they get there? [01:10:46.000 --> 01:11:01.000] That's why I say the judge has a duty or should have a duty to fully explain the details of what gives him capacity to have standing to make a ruling. [01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:08.000] And it should be all spelled out in plain and simple English so everybody knows why everybody is doing the things they do. [01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:23.000] I think you'll find that that had to be established with the pleadings that were put before the court to cause the court to hand down a contempt of court because somebody had to raise an issue. [01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:28.000] And I suspect whoever raised the issue established the jurisdiction. [01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:34.000] So you're probably going to find a jurisdictional statement in the pleadings that were put before the court that got the contempt cited. [01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:47.000] Yes, but that man and woman, which is what they are, claiming they're not getting marriage privileges, which as actually would be properly worded marriage burdens, [01:11:47.000 --> 01:12:00.000] they, I don't believe they have established where the Constitution applies to them or that they are allowed to apply the Constitution upon anybody. [01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.000] No, no, wait, wait. [01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000] That's a misunderstanding of the Constitution. [01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:07.000] Do you misunderstand? [01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:10.000] The Constitution does not apply to us. [01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:11.000] Correct. [01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.000] Correct. [01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:18.000] It only applies to the public officials. [01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:23.000] Okay, but that means that public officials are hands off. [01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:28.000] Well, the only thing it does is tells public officials what they can't do. [01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.000] It's a charter of negative liberties. [01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.000] It tells the state to let the people alone. [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:42.000] It does not require the state or the federal government to provide services, even so elementary as service as maintaining law and order. [01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:47.000] That's all done by contract. [01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.000] It doesn't require them to, but they can. [01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:56.000] If the public says, yeah, we want it, and they vote for it, they can, and they did. [01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:05.000] But I'm looking at how did the federal government dip down into the state's contract between two individuals? [01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:12.000] And I have the same question, Danny, and I would word it this way. [01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:22.000] Where does the Constitution allow the state or the federal government to contract without the Constitution? [01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:28.000] If they're allowed to contract, regardless of what the Constitution says, then there is no Constitution. [01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:33.000] If they can contract, well, we can take your children because you signed this contract. [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.000] So the Constitution has to allow them to enter. [01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.000] No, no, that's backwards. [01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.000] The Constitution doesn't allow them to do anything. [01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:48.000] The Constitution forbids them to do certain things. [01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.000] It's like the Ten Commandments. [01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:57.000] If you set the first four aside, which is about your relationship with God, [01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:03.000] and just stay with the remaining six, which are about your relationship with your fellow man, [01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:07.000] all they say is thou shalt not. [01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:12.000] Then everything else you can do. [01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.000] Wait a minute, I'm a little bit wrong. [01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:21.000] The amendment to the Constitution is restrictive. [01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:28.000] The Constitution itself does establish how the government is put together [01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:35.000] and what duties and powers certain entities in the government will have. [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.000] So I kind of misstated that. [01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:41.000] There are also prohibitions within there. [01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:45.000] Yeah, but the right to being able to contract, [01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:52.000] the only reference to contract that I know of in the Constitution [01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:57.000] is the prohibition against interfering with a private contract. [01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.000] Yeah, that would be like between you and me or between me and Ford Motor Company [01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:05.000] or some other organization. [01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:09.000] Or between Texas and Oklahoma? [01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.000] I don't know. [01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.000] I suspect that's going to be public. [01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:16.000] It might be secret, but it's public. [01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:25.000] I mean, is it something that the federal government has any business in? [01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.000] There's capacity. [01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000] There's your question of capacity. [01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:34.000] No, that's standing. [01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000] That's standing, yeah, capacity. [01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:39.000] That's capacity in the first place. [01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:46.000] You just have standing in order to get to whether or not you have capacity. [01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.000] Well, see, the Constitution cannot list the cannot-dos [01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.000] because there are a trillion cannot-dos. [01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.000] But there's a few can-dos, [01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.000] and the Constitution lists the very few can-dos the government can do. [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.000] It's not possible to list the things it cannot do because there's a... [01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:11.000] They listed that in the 10th Amendment. [01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:12.000] Yeah, they really did. [01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:18.000] They listed that in the 10th Amendment. [01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:25.000] Right, that it doesn't list all the things it cannot do because there's just too many. [01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:26.000] Yes, it does. [01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:27.000] It cannot do. [01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.000] Yes, it does. [01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.000] But most people don't know what the 10th Amendment says and don't read it for what it actually says [01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.000] because it's in there. 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[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:48.000] Randy Kelton, the new of our radio, here with Mr. Jeff Cedric and we're talking to Terrence in Florida. [01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.000] Tenth Amendment. [01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:57.000] The Tenth Amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, [01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:08.000] nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people. [01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:15.000] So what does that mean, Jeff? [01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000] You there, Jeff? [01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:18.000] I'm here. [01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:19.000] Okay. [01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:22.000] So what does that mean? [01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:29.000] It means if the federal government wasn't given specific permission to do something, they can't. [01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:30.000] They can't. [01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.000] And I can do it. [01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:34.000] They've taken the license. [01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:41.000] At first it was a liberty, now it's a license by way of contracts to violate all that. [01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:47.000] And pretty much that's how they've got to us, is by contract. [01:20:47.000 --> 01:21:09.000] And the other thing that that amendment says is that I may do anything I want to so long as I and my other citizens have not agreed to restrict me from doing. [01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:17.000] So anything the law does not prohibit me from doing specifically, I may do as a matter of right. [01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:22.000] That's kind of like the last six of the Ten Commandments. [01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:27.000] It says what it is you are not to do, anything else you can do. [01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.000] Exactly. [01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:36.000] And public officials, on the other hand, may only do what they are expressly authorized to do. [01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000] And that's what I'm trying to get to. [01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:48.000] How did the federal government get express authorization to interfere with that state contract? [01:21:48.000 --> 01:22:02.000] But if the state contract involves federal benefits, then the Fed has business. [01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:14.000] And since we're not talking about morals here and we're not talking about love and procreation and all that stuff, we're only talking about a license to buy a state. [01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:29.000] If the license grants you access to federal benefits, then the Fed has authority to address the contract. [01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.000] That's my opinion. [01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.000] Terrence, I thought I had you on mute. [01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.000] Thank you, Terrence. [01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:39.000] Oh, thank you. [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:52.000] And thank you for restating the Tenth Amendment, how I misunderstood the way you were describing how it lists what they can't do. [01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:57.000] So thank you for that. [01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:04.000] And I'll thank Mike Badnerich for that. [01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:10.000] That's Michael Badboy Badnerich. [01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.000] I hope he's listening. [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:32.000] But the other rule, which is not a law but is the way things are, is that I cannot grant you a thing to do that I do not possess myself to do myself. [01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.000] I can't give you authority to do something that I cannot do. [01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:44.000] So nobody can give Congress or the courts authority to do anything that they couldn't do themselves in the first place. [01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:45.000] Right. [01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:51.000] And that goes to Congress cannot delegate an authority they never had. [01:23:51.000 --> 01:24:01.000] So I go back to where does the Constitution allow government to contract without the Constitution? [01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:04.000] Where does the IRS get authority? [01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:16.000] That presupposes that the government must be authorized to contract. [01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:21.000] And that's a good point because the government may only do what they're authorized to do. [01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:23.000] And I think they are. [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.000] It's authorized to enter into treaties that are in pursuit of the Constitution, [01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:38.000] which to me Reid says we can do a treaty with China as long as China conforms to the Constitution we have to conform to. [01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:42.000] No, it doesn't say that. [01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.000] In pursuit of the Constitution. [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:50.000] It doesn't say that. [01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.000] It doesn't say that at all. [01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:59.000] They've been trying to get that amendment passed Congress for decades. [01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:04.000] Can't get it done. [01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:12.000] Yeah, what that would do is make it almost impossible for us to enter into trade with other countries. [01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:22.000] It would be forcing every other country to conform to our way of doing things and that's not going to happen. [01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:31.000] But then doesn't that allow our so-called country to do things without the Constitution if they can't? [01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:32.000] Yes. [01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:33.000] If they have to conform? [01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:34.000] Yes. [01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:36.000] So it's a violation there. [01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:37.000] Yes. [01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:38.000] Exactly. [01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:45.000] Where do you think the war on drugs came from? [01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.000] Without an amendment. [01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:51.000] It came from treaties. [01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.000] That a treaty cannot deprive a man... [01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:02.000] There's no prohibition on whether a treaty can or cannot deprive. [01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:08.000] But doesn't the Constitution say that treaties must be in pursuit of the Constitution? [01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:12.000] No, no, no. [01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.000] I think I'm missing something there. [01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:21.000] They've been trying to get that kind of amendment through Congress, as I said, for decades. [01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.000] But it's already in there. [01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:32.000] What I'm hearing is in pursuit and not in compliance with. [01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:39.000] In pursuit is just kind of artfully vague language that really doesn't say anything. [01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:44.000] In compliance with would say something. [01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:49.000] So the Constitution has no meaning whatsoever. [01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.000] No, that's the old generalization. [01:26:54.000 --> 01:27:00.000] The Constitution has a weakness, and that's it, treaties. [01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:05.000] So the Constitution can be amended by treaty? [01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:10.000] After a faction, yes. [01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:17.000] Though it's not actually amended, it's just circumvented. [01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:28.000] You would have no war on drugs if we did not have a treaty with Great Britain. [01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:32.000] So the Constitution has no meaning whatsoever. [01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:34.000] That's the old generalization. [01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.000] You're leaping to the wrong conclusion and you're getting carried away. [01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:45.000] I said it is a weakness in the Constitution. [01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:49.000] Because I'm a fan of right-hander spooner. [01:27:49.000 --> 01:28:00.000] If you've got a wound on your hand and a scab on your wound, does that make you rotten? [01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.000] No. [01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:04.000] Does that mean you've got a weakness and an injury? [01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:07.000] Don't get carried away. [01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:10.000] Don't swing that pendulum too far. [01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:16.000] It's a weakness. [01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:21.000] I'm not sure how we got here. [01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:29.000] Well, we got here because I brought up that the judge used contempt [01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:35.000] and nothing more than contempt of his own opinion, which may be better. [01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:43.000] It's contempt of the orders of the Supreme Court, not his opinion. [01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:48.000] Ah, but that's an opinion of the Supreme Court and not an order. [01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:52.000] When the Supreme Court issues an opinion, that's law. [01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.000] That's law. [01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.000] But now it's lost our legislature. [01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.000] I won't go there with you. [01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:10.000] I have sung in that chorus many times. [01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:13.000] And it is an opinion. [01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:15.000] Oh my gosh. [01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:21.000] It is the Supreme Court issues opinions that interpret law. [01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:27.000] So their opinion in that instance has the force of law. [01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:31.000] Well, but if law needs to be interpreted, then it's vague. [01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:37.000] But, you know, let's go back, if we can, about 150 years. [01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:45.000] The Supreme Court ruled that slavery was constitutional. [01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:46.000] OK, hang on. [01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:47.000] We're about to go to break. [01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:48.000] Randy Kelton. [01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:49.000] We'll have our radio. [01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:53.000] I'll call in number 512-61984. [01:29:53.000 --> 01:30:01.000] We'll be right back. 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[01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:05.000] You are listening to the Logos Radio Network, [01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:10.000] logosradionetwork.com. [01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.000] Okay, we are back. [01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.000] Randy Kelp from Real Blow Radio. [01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.000] Jeff had to drop off. [01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.000] And Terrence, you're kind of running around in circles here. [01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:50.000] I do appreciate your comments and your insight, [01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:51.000] but I do need to move along. [01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:55.000] I've got two more calls and only two seconds left. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:57.000] I don't mind, Randy. [01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.000] And I'm glad you're here. [01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:05.000] I do need to move along. I've got two more calls and only two seconds left. [01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:06.000] I don't mind, Randy. [01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:15.000] And it does seem everything goes in circles where a benefit should be properly called a burden, [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.000] the burden of the license instead of the benefit of the license. [01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.000] And I do appreciate the discussion. [01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:24.000] Okay, thank you, Mr. Terrence. [01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:28.000] Okay, now we're going to go to Charles in Georgia. [01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:32.000] Charles. [01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:33.000] How's it going, Randy? [01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:35.000] How's it going today? [01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:36.000] I am doing good. [01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:41.000] What do you have for us today? [01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:42.000] Randy? [01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.000] Yes, can you hear me? [01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.000] I can hear you. [01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:51.000] Good, good. [01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:58.000] I have a quick question about a jurisdiction issue. [01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:08.000] First off, where does the friend of the court come in in our judicial system? [01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:14.000] Are you speaking to Amicus Curiae? [01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.000] No. [01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:24.000] Or are you speaking to a friend of the court in another capacity? [01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:33.000] In the family court in Michigan, what they have is they call it the friend of the court. [01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:39.000] So I'm trying to figure out where do they come in in the judicial system [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.000] and what kind of, my question is, what? [01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:49.000] I suspect, I see that you're from Georgia. [01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:57.000] I suspect that this is something specifically defined in Georgia law [01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:00.000] because of the way you're speaking to it. [01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:09.000] Now, anyone can file in most any case a brief as an Amicus Curiae, [01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:13.000] and that means friend to the court. [01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:21.000] And it had, an Amicus Curiae has no official standing. [01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.000] It is advisory. [01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:28.000] If I file a brief with the court in a case in which I'm a litigant, [01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.000] then the court has to consider my brief. [01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:38.000] If an Amicus Curiae brief is filed, that's someone who's not a party, [01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.000] and the court can take it under advisement, [01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:45.000] but has no duty to act based on what's in there. [01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:48.000] Does that make sense? [01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:50.000] It does. It does. [01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.000] And I'm thinking the way you're addressing this, [01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:01.000] that in Georgia, there is probably a definition of friend to the court, [01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:05.000] and I know sometimes in family law, [01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:11.000] they'll bring in a third party as a friend to the court. [01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:16.000] So it may be addressed specifically in Georgia Code. [01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:23.000] Okay. Now, I am here in Georgia, but this is stemming from Michigan. [01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:29.000] So I guess it's all the same as well. [01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.000] So they don't have any jurisdiction, [01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.000] but the court can take up the issue through this Amicus Curiae, [01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:36.000] which is a friend of mine. [01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:42.000] Oh, okay. Now you're talking, you're going to full faith and credit. [01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:48.000] If this is, is this someone from Michigan, [01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:57.000] is there a pleading or a document filed in the court based on Michigan law? [01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:59.000] Yes. [01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:06.000] Okay. Then that is advisory, and here's how the court should generally look at that. [01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:14.000] If there is an issue that has not been addressed in, say, Georgia courts, [01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:19.000] but another legislature or another court has addressed the issue, [01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:23.000] and generally it'd have to be the legislature, [01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:28.000] where there is an issue that has occurred, [01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:31.000] and Georgia doesn't have a law addressing the issue, [01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:38.000] but Michigan or Wisconsin, whatever, they have a law addressing this issue. [01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.000] The courts trust the legislatures of other states, [01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:47.000] and if a legislature of another state has addressed this issue, [01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:55.000] they accept that they have addressed it fairly and equitably. [01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.000] So if they don't have guidance within the state, [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:03.000] then they can go look outside the state to take guidance, [01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:08.000] but it's only advisory, it's not compelling. [01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.000] Does that make sense? [01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.000] It does, it does. [01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:16.000] Okay, and I've got one more question for you. [01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:23.000] When it comes down to our birth certificates, [01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:29.000] there's a lot of things out there about stories about our birth certificates. [01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:39.000] Where does that come in with jurisdiction of whatever state the birth certificate is? [01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:48.000] How does the signature of a birth certificate compel the actual human [01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:52.000] to do anything under that state's law? [01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:58.000] I have absolutely no idea. [01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:04.000] I've had all these guys come along and tell me stories about the birth certificate, [01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:15.000] but I have had no one bring me any substantive law concerning all of these assertions [01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.000] and allegations about the effect of a birth certificate. [01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:31.000] So far as I can tell, a birth certificate is merely a record of the birth of an individual. [01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.000] I cannot find that it's anything else. [01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:41.000] I'm not saying it's not, and a lot of people, they have a lot to say about it, [01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:46.000] but I'm an engineer and all I can do is connect the dots. [01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:50.000] And these guys aren't connecting dots together. [01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:57.000] They're just making these vague assertions and jumping to conclusions, [01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:02.000] and I have to assume they're jumping to conclusions because I can't connect dots [01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.000] from one conclusion to another. [01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:08.000] So I really don't know. [01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.000] Exactly. Exactly. [01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:19.000] But with that said, we have so many people that seem to find credence in this [01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:23.000] that I can't just dismiss it. [01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:29.000] It's like commercial law. [01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:36.000] I hear a lot of stuff about it, but I don't get anything, you know, the commercial process. [01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:39.000] I'm sorry, not commercial, the administrative process. [01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:44.000] I get a lot of information about it, but I don't get any law to support it. [01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:48.000] And I was on, what's his name? [01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:54.000] That brought up, I think of his name in a minute, that first came out with this thing [01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:59.000] of the 1931 bankruptcy, Winston Shroud. [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:06.000] I was on his show, and I asked him, Winston, where did you come up with all of this? [01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:14.000] And he said, well, first I asked him, where is the law supporting all of this? [01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:18.000] And he said, well, I don't know that there is any. [01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:22.000] Well, where did you come up with this? [01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:25.000] Well, I figured it out. [01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:27.000] You figured it out. [01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.000] So in effect, you made it up. [01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:34.000] And to his credit, long pause. [01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.000] Well, yes, as a matter of fact, I did. [01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:39.000] And I said, Winston, I'm a creature of statute. [01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:43.000] I can't go into court without making it up. [01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:48.000] I need code or case law to lead me from one place to another, and I can't find it. [01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:52.000] And it's the exact same way with the bankruptcy as it is with the birth certificate. [01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:01.000] I can't find anything that supports all these assertions. [01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:09.000] Well, now there is something that is kind of bothering me, the Dred Scott case. [01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:14.000] I think somebody about five or ten minutes ago was alluding to that. [01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:17.000] I'm not sure what it is you guys are talking about. [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:24.000] But you guys were alluding to the Supreme Court saying that slavery was a good thing. [01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:27.000] I think he was talking about the Dred Scott case. [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:35.000] Now, in that case, it said that all African Americans cannot be citizens. [01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:40.000] So what I wanted to know is, you know, they came out with the 14th Amendment, [01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:47.000] but they never actually overturned or it was never actually... [01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:50.000] Hang on, we're about to go to break. [01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:52.000] This is Randy Kelton, we're by Rio. [01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:55.000] I call this number, 512-646-1984. [01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:00.000] We'll be right back. [01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.000] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? 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[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:55.000] The people come down from the hill [01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:03.000] Into the city they will shuffle [01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:10.000] Many long nights, many strong thrills [01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:17.000] Land of comfort, land of scuffle [01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:26.000] It's hard to lose and it's hard to hold [01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:32.000] Far back as they remember, they've been told [01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:47.000] They got to learn sign language, sign language [01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:12.000] There have been some who speak sentences [01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:19.000] Then there are those who break the rules [01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:27.000] There have been some who speak sentences [01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:33.000] Then there are those who speak the tools [01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:42.000] It's hard to tell who's in control [01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:49.000] So trust in what you see through the eyes of your soul [01:48:49.000 --> 01:49:14.000] They got to learn sign language, sign language [01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:21.000] Okay, I'm finally back. I apologize for the delay. I had a bit of a technical difficulty there. [01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:27.000] I think I got it resolved. The one time I did something, it was gone. [01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.000] I had to struggle around to find a way to get back in. [01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:35.000] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Rule of Law Radio. [01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:44.000] We seem to be having a little issue right here at the end. [01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:52.000] Okay, got the music down. We're talking to Charles in Georgia, about the 14th and then the Dred Scott case. [01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:54.000] Yes. [01:49:54.000 --> 01:50:03.000] Okay, gotcha. Okay, my system, it sounds like it's about to crash. So if you lose me, don't be surprised. [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:09.000] Okay, I read the Dred Scott case. It's been a long time. [01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:19.000] As I understand, the 14th Amendment was put in place in 1868, essentially because of Dred Scott. [01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:31.000] Because Dred Scott was a slave and fought for his rights and it was determined that he didn't have any. [01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:33.000] Am I correct in that? [01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.000] Yes. [01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.000] That's correct. [01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:47.000] Okay, let me read. This is the first part of the 14th Amendment. [01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:56.000] Any person born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States [01:50:56.000 --> 01:51:05.000] and the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities [01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:14.000] of citizens of the United States nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property [01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:22.000] without due process of law nor deny any person within his jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. [01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:31.000] Okay, back to you. Where were we? [01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:50.000] The Dred Scott case, which essentially said that any African American, any person of African descent could not be a citizen. [01:51:50.000 --> 01:52:03.000] Now, I guess they came up with the amendment to the Constitution, but does that void the court's ruling? [01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:13.000] Especially since nobody else has ever taken that thing to court and had it overturned in the court, [01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:17.000] but they just made an amendment to the Constitution. [01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000] Okay, you're saying that Dred Scott was never overturned. [01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:22.000] Yes. [01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:37.000] Okay, and it wasn't necessary because essentially the 14th Amendment over changed the law so Dred Scott was no longer applicable. [01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:38.000] Okay. [01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:48.000] So it wasn't necessary to overturn Dred Scott. It was overturned by operation of law. [01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:51.000] Okay. [01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:55.000] Okay, is that your only question? [01:52:55.000 --> 01:53:01.000] Yeah, that's the question I had. I had my three questions and I'm not going to hold up the line. [01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:10.000] Okay, thank you, Charles. Okay, now we're going to go to Steve in Washington. [01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:15.000] Howdy Steve, what do you have for us tonight? We've got five minutes left. [01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:25.000] Okay, Randy, I've been listening to you and Jeff talk and Jeff, he's really smart. I like that. [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:32.000] He's wise. He's had lots of years to gain wisdom. [01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:44.000] He's actually older than me and I have dirt in my front yard that's not as old as I am. [01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:50.000] I really appreciate the fact. I think he's the only person that's older than me. [01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:55.000] Yeah, Jeff is great. He corrects me on a regular basis. [01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.000] You're older than me too. [01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:04.000] I'm older than everybody. Okay, what do you have for us tonight? [01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:15.000] Well, here's the whole thing. Jeff brought up the whole thing about the war on drugs because of the treaty with Britain. [01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:29.000] That's exactly how we have the driver license, the license plate, Social Security and all of those things. [01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:42.000] First, what we do is we get a treaty going with another nation and this puts the mechanisms of agency into play here [01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:53.000] because what happens is once we get the treaty, what happens is now the Congress can come back [01:54:53.000 --> 01:55:03.000] and they can create a public law and a public law means those are the marching orders for the agency [01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:14.000] and those go to what's called cabinet level independent agencies. They are basically their own autonomous government [01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:20.000] and the only way they are amenable is by joint resolution. [01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:33.000] So what happens is that we get the treaty, the treaty is ratified, now Congress comes back and they make a public law [01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:42.000] which is the marching orders for the agencies and then the agencies have to promulgate regulation [01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:50.000] and they have to go up for review with the notice period, 90 days I believe. [01:55:50.000 --> 01:56:02.000] Okay, wait a minute. Let me make sure I've got this right. Does the Congress in these cases promulgate law or rules? [01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:04.000] Rules. [01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:17.000] Because we have statutes, rules, regulations and they're like onion skins, one wraps around the other, regulations on the outside. [01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:27.000] Statutes establishes the agency, the rules tell the agency how they'll do what they do [01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:37.000] and then the regulations the agency promulgates stipulates how they will abide by the rules. Am I accurate in that assessment? [01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:47.000] Exactly, that's accurate and so what happens is the agencies distribute what's called a benefit or a right [01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:59.000] and where rights are created by Congress you know they also create the remedy and so what happens is now you go down to your agency, [01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:11.000] your DMV, your Social Security office and you sign up for a benefit and now you're beholden to the agency [01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:19.000] and those rules that went out in the treaty and you know take for instance the license plate. [01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:32.000] That was an agreement between I think it was Teddy Roosevelt and Russia over the border crossing of military vehicles [01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:42.000] that they would have license plates on motor vehicles. This is way, this is 100 years ago and over 100 years ago [01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:51.000] and this came back, all this stuff comes back in the form of some benefit that an agency can give out. [01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:59.000] You know license, whatever, benefit, anything coming from the government is a benefit and it comes from agencies. [01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:09.000] And it traps us, it tricks us into agreeing to their regulatory schemes. [01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:21.000] Exactly and what it is is if I cover up a bear trap and I put a birthday cake on it and you say oh a free birthday cake, you go and you grab it. [01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:28.000] And I say well sorry you got hit by the trap but you grabbed it on purpose. 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