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[00:55.160 --> 00:59.560]  And now, a Liberty Beat special report, a trial in Austin.
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[01:04.760 --> 01:08.560]  That testimony was shared Thursday by Norma Pizzana during the first day of proceedings
[01:08.560 --> 01:13.040]  in the trial of Antonio Bieler, an Austin, Texas activist accused of refusing to obey
[01:13.040 --> 01:17.480]  a police officer after he stepped in to record and ultimately defend a woman when she was
[01:17.480 --> 01:19.800]  apparently being treated aggressively by police.
[01:19.800 --> 01:23.800]  Pizzana is a female passenger who was ripped from her friend's car shortly before Bieler
[01:23.800 --> 01:27.480]  was arrested for resisting arrest and for allegedly spitting in the face of Officer
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[01:40.680 --> 01:45.280]  Oborsky testifying that Bieler was verbally aggressive and that he considered him a threat
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[03:28.800 --> 03:30.640]  What's it gonna do? What's it gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys, Bad Boys? What's
[03:30.640 --> 03:33.320]  it gonna do? What's it gonna do when they come for you, When you were eight and you had
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[03:44.080 --> 04:07.960]  Howdy Howdy, this is Randy Kelkin and Steve Skidmore on this Friday, the 24th day of
[04:07.960 --> 04:18.120]  October 2000. And we're gonna start out with a little synopsis of Santiago. We went through
[04:18.120 --> 04:26.680]  Santiago and versus, who's reversing? Mackie Wolf. Oh, Mackie Wolf. Yeah. Mackie Wolf to
[04:26.680 --> 04:39.840]  jump. Okay. Steve's gonna kind of give us some give a synopsis back of Mackie. Nine o'clock,
[04:39.840 --> 04:47.120]  we're going to have a passing acid on. And from New York, and he's gonna talk about the
[04:47.120 --> 04:54.000]  debacle going on in Houston, Houston mayor. But we'll get to that at nine, the call boards are
[04:54.000 --> 04:59.600]  open. So if you have a question, you want to get in before we get the pastor on, give us a
[04:59.600 --> 05:10.320]  call 512-646-1984. Take it away, Steve. Okay. If anybody was sticking around the airways around
[05:10.320 --> 05:17.700]  the radio last Friday, you know that we went over Louis, Louise, a Santiago and Linda a Santiago
[05:17.700 --> 05:28.720]  appellants versus Mackie Wolf, Zeintz and Mann PC appellee. We read from a memorandum opinion
[05:28.720 --> 05:34.720]  from the Court of Appeals, 5th District from the 5th District of Texas at Dallas. This was
[05:34.720 --> 05:51.520]  under cause number 05-13-00620-CV. And it's funny, I got to work the following Monday and had a
[05:51.520 --> 05:59.440]  discussion with my boss about this, we started talking about the application. And he was of the
[05:59.440 --> 06:07.780]  impression that, and we haven't had quote unquote, unofficially quote unquote that talk yet, but
[06:07.780 --> 06:19.260]  we've tentatively scheduled to sit down and have a meeting of the minds on Mackie Wolf. Here,
[06:19.260 --> 06:27.740]  one of the attorneys in the firm are of the impression that Mackie Wolf gives a very limited
[06:27.740 --> 06:39.540]  scope to application to other cases. I differ completely. I believe it is my mindset that
[06:39.540 --> 06:51.420]  there is a citation in this memorandum opinion that broadens the scope of application of Mackie
[06:51.420 --> 07:02.140]  Wolf to other cases. Specifically, and just to let you know where these attorneys' perspectives
[07:02.140 --> 07:15.260]  are coming from, is that Mackie Wolf, the whole issue, the core issue in Santiago v. Mackie,
[07:15.260 --> 07:26.220]  was that Mackie Wolf presented what was considered by Santiago to be a counterfeit
[07:26.220 --> 07:37.180]  of an original instrument, the note. Santiago had asked to see the original note and Mackie
[07:37.180 --> 07:47.900]  Wolf presented a photostat copy of a digital image that they had somewhere on their computer
[07:47.900 --> 07:55.940]  database and presented it as an original. So, therefore, I've got issues with the definition
[07:55.940 --> 08:06.100]  of counterfeit as it applies to this, but I see the absence of that argument or the absence
[08:06.100 --> 08:18.180]  of bringing up the legal definition or statutory definition of counterfeit that the court made
[08:18.180 --> 08:25.460]  no mention of it either. So, it could be construed that it was a counterfeit instrument, this
[08:25.460 --> 08:37.020]  photostat copy or print out of a digital image, but this on page for the memorandum, go ahead,
[08:37.020 --> 08:41.980]  Randy. This wasn't about the document at all, so
[08:41.980 --> 08:48.820]  it didn't give us a statement on... Well, that's where it started. Yeah, I mean, that's
[08:48.820 --> 08:55.660]  how the door opened, but since Mackie didn't address the validity of the argument, if
[08:55.660 --> 09:01.300]  these lawyers are thinking this is a statement about the presentation of false documents
[09:01.300 --> 09:07.780]  or fraudulent documents, I took it as nothing to do with that. That was only the issue that
[09:07.780 --> 09:15.660]  opened the door, the only issue that the judge talked about was whether or not the attorney
[09:15.660 --> 09:29.020]  had immunity. Correct. I'll shut up now. No, that's fine. You're 100%, but where I stray
[09:29.020 --> 09:37.020]  off, where I'm thinking outside the box, let me say that, and I hate to say that, but on
[09:37.020 --> 09:44.260]  page four of the memorandum opinion, under applicable law, first paragraph, line begins
[09:44.260 --> 09:57.300]  on line four and continues. The court cites Brandt v. West, 892, Southwest 2nd, 56, 71
[09:57.300 --> 10:10.740]  through 72, Texas appellate at Houston, 1st District, 1994, writ denied. Where the court
[10:10.740 --> 10:25.380]  cited this case was by saying, this doctrine is often termed quote, attorney immunity. Stop.
[10:25.380 --> 10:30.640]  The purpose behind the rule is to allow an attorney to fulfill his duty and zealously
[10:30.640 --> 10:42.220]  represent his client within the bounds of law by fully taking advantage of his client's
[10:42.220 --> 10:49.060]  rights and defenses without the threat of liability. Okay, let's revisit. There's reason
[10:49.060 --> 10:59.620]  I emphasized within the bounds of law. It does not say this law, that law, any specific
[10:59.620 --> 11:10.640]  law is very general and broad by saying within the bounds of the law. Now, Randy, you have
[11:10.640 --> 11:18.600]  a definition for the, that would be previously referred to or previously mentioned. One previously
[11:18.600 --> 11:25.560]  mentioned. Okay. They didn't say the law. So we take that to mean any, all in every
[11:25.560 --> 11:32.440]  law. Well, yes, they did. Here's a direct quote from, from Brandt v. West within the
[11:32.440 --> 11:44.480]  bounds of the law. Oh, direct quote. I stand corrected against. Yes, sir. Stompy chomp.
[11:44.480 --> 11:57.400]  But now it does not specify there what the law is. So is it fair to construe the law
[11:57.400 --> 12:09.240]  as any law? And if it be construed as any law correctly, if I am interpreting this correctly,
[12:09.240 --> 12:16.600]  this blows the doors off of what you can accuse these attorneys for, I would like to direct
[12:16.600 --> 12:24.240]  your attention to your respective state's code or rules of professional conduct. These
[12:24.240 --> 12:29.800]  are ethics. Like Randy likes to say, if you read these things, they read like a comic
[12:29.800 --> 12:34.360]  book. Yes, they do. Because if you've ever been in court against one of these bank's
[12:34.360 --> 12:39.880]  attorneys, you'll know just you don't even have to be involved in the case. Just sit
[12:39.880 --> 12:46.800]  back and listen to these guys. Watch what they do. Look at what they present as evidence.
[12:46.800 --> 12:51.680]  And here what comes out of their mouths, you will catch them in so many lies. Well, I don't
[12:51.680 --> 12:58.160]  want to say lies because technically and legally an attorney cannot lie. Let me say it again.
[12:58.160 --> 13:03.320]  Legally an attorney cannot lie. That's something lay people do. That's something you and I
[13:03.320 --> 13:09.840]  do when we're at the bar talking about how big that fish was that got away. What attorneys
[13:09.840 --> 13:16.960]  do since they're learned at counsel, they do not lie. They commit aggravated perjury.
[13:16.960 --> 13:32.640]  They commit willful misrepresentations of material facts, forgery, any number of things.
[13:32.640 --> 13:40.480]  So step outside the bounds of law in the interest of the pursuit of your clients, in pursuit
[13:40.480 --> 13:47.240]  of your clients interests, and you divest yourself of what is termed in quotes above
[13:47.240 --> 13:58.560]  as attorney immunity. And as this ruling said, you are now liable to the third party, Santiago,
[13:58.560 --> 14:08.640]  for damages. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it, and I can't look. I'm very anxious
[14:08.640 --> 14:11.880]  to have this conversation with the guys at work.
[14:11.880 --> 14:21.560]  Well, I seriously hope that the way the court subsequently adjudicates this is in line with
[14:21.560 --> 14:29.320]  the strength of that particular opinion. I thought the opinion was very strongly worded.
[14:29.320 --> 14:34.440]  The opinion was very strongly worded, and I think what the saving grace in my argument
[14:34.440 --> 14:41.440]  is is that what I just read was not the opinion of this court, but the opinion of the Texas
[14:41.440 --> 14:49.920]  Appellate Court at Houston District 1 in 1994, in the case of Brent v. West. They made an
[14:49.920 --> 14:54.440]  affirmative statement, but they did not make an affirmative statement from their own mouth.
[14:54.440 --> 15:02.160]  They made it from the mouth of a previously adjudicated case.
[15:02.160 --> 15:12.080]  So this is going to, if it's utilized, this will change the whole playing field.
[15:12.080 --> 15:19.120]  Hang on just a second. I just noticed something else in this. Just notice this. Where it says
[15:19.120 --> 15:26.320]  within the bounds of the law, if they are speaking of a previously mentioned or a law
[15:26.320 --> 15:33.960]  previously mentioned, would that be applicable to the law that was being mentioned in Brent
[15:33.960 --> 15:41.600]  v. West or the law that's being mentioned here in Santiago v. Mackey?
[15:41.600 --> 15:55.840]  I don't see how we can get this back to... This even further validates in my mind, naturally.
[15:55.840 --> 16:01.720]  I think further validates my argument by saying any law.
[16:01.720 --> 16:11.480]  The judges in here, essentially the case is not about the law just being a general scoundrel
[16:11.480 --> 16:18.480]  but specifically the presentation of fraudulent evidence to the court or further fraudulent
[16:18.480 --> 16:19.920]  evidence to anyone.
[16:19.920 --> 16:30.200]  Yes. And their only alleged affirmative defense to the Santiago's accusations was attorney
[16:30.200 --> 16:31.200]  immunity.
[16:31.200 --> 16:37.400]  Now, here's the music in the background, folks. We'll be right back. We've got the phone
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[16:49.280 --> 17:00.800]  with Leslie. Folks, you're listening to Rural Law Radio. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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[19:22.640 --> 19:36.960]  Radio, folks. 512-646-1984. I'll give you two minutes here and I'll wrap up with this Santiago
[19:36.960 --> 19:44.760]  Mackie. It's very important, folks, that if I am interpreting this correctly and I have
[19:44.760 --> 19:51.520]  no reason to believe that I am and I have had nobody tell me that I am, just straight
[19:51.520 --> 19:56.680]  out, I have had somebody tell me, hey, we need to talk about this. Okay, fine. We just
[19:56.680 --> 20:03.400]  haven't had that talk yet. But if anybody disagrees with me, please, please blow holes
[20:03.400 --> 20:07.960]  in my argument. Tell me I am wrong. Please tell me I am wrong. I need to know. I need
[20:07.960 --> 20:18.360]  to know. So, 512-646-1984 and tell me I am wrong. Let me specify and tell me I am wrong
[20:18.360 --> 20:26.160]  about my interpretation of, actually, I guess it would be Brant v. West as cited by the
[20:26.160 --> 20:34.800]  Justices in the ruling memorandum opinion of Santiago v. Mackie Wolf Zeintz and Mann
[20:34.800 --> 20:40.400]  and with no further delay. Leslie in Pennsylvania, I have the understanding that Randy has been
[20:40.400 --> 20:49.080]  waiting for you to call. My dear, how have you been? I've been okay. Good. There was
[20:49.080 --> 20:56.320]  a very interesting decision came down a couple of days ago and it was in Seminole, Cali,
[20:56.320 --> 21:04.480]  Florida. And it was the Bank of New York by merger of BHC, Home Loans, Forest and Countrywide,
[21:04.480 --> 21:12.320]  et cetera, versus NASH. And they came to a very interesting conclusion. If you would
[21:12.320 --> 21:13.640]  remember a couple...
[21:13.640 --> 21:15.800]  Is NASH NASH?
[21:15.800 --> 21:21.200]  Yes. I skipped a link to Randy.
[21:21.200 --> 21:23.720]  I'm looking it up now.
[21:23.720 --> 21:31.960]  Okay. Now, on that, America's wholesale lender, we discussed a couple of months ago where
[21:31.960 --> 21:39.160]  the Countrywide Bank had sued them because they were borrowers who discovered America's
[21:39.160 --> 21:46.760]  wholesale lender was never a New York corporation. So they created it so that Countrywide could
[21:46.760 --> 21:54.880]  not create it. And they've been putting this through to Countrywide ever since. Well, this
[21:54.880 --> 22:02.720]  court found that under number nine, America's wholesale lender, specifically named in the
[22:02.720 --> 22:08.760]  mortgage, did not file this action or appear at trial or assign any interest. And that
[22:08.760 --> 22:15.120]  the note and mortgage are void because the lender, America's wholesale lender, stated
[22:15.120 --> 22:22.200]  to be a New York corporation was not in fact incorporated in the year 2005 or subsequently
[22:22.200 --> 22:30.880]  at any time by either Countrywide Home Loans or Bank of America or any of their related
[22:30.880 --> 22:36.160]  corporate entities or agents. Very specific there.
[22:36.160 --> 22:40.440]  And then it goes on to America's wholesale lender, stating to be a corporation under
[22:40.440 --> 22:46.000]  the laws of New York, the alleged lender in this case, was not licensed as a mortgage
[22:46.000 --> 22:56.400]  lender in Florida in 2005 or thereafter. And the alleged mortgage loan is invalid and void.
[22:56.400 --> 23:02.280]  Then it goes on that America's wholesale lender, stated to be a New York corporation,
[23:02.280 --> 23:09.000]  did not have authority to do business in Florida. The alleged mortgage loan is invalid and void.
[23:09.000 --> 23:14.800]  Plaintiffs and predecessors in interest had no right to receive payment on the mortgage
[23:14.800 --> 23:20.320]  loan because the loan was invalid and therefore void because the corporate mortgagee named
[23:20.320 --> 23:27.200]  therein was nonexistent. And no valid mortgage loan was ever held by Plaintiff or its predecessors
[23:27.200 --> 23:31.360]  in interest. This is where it gets really interesting.
[23:31.360 --> 23:36.480]  The alleged assignment of mortgage, which purported the transfer interest in this mortgage to
[23:36.480 --> 23:42.840]  BAC Home Loans, Servicing, Countrywide Loans, Servicing, et cetera, as a signing, was invalid
[23:42.840 --> 23:49.880]  because mortgage electronic registration system as nominee for America's wholesale lender
[23:49.880 --> 23:57.400]  had no authority to assign the ownership interest of said mortgage because MERS was not owner
[23:57.400 --> 24:04.120]  of the subject mortgage and was only a nominee for America's wholesale lender. An alleged
[24:04.120 --> 24:11.280]  New York corporation, which was nonexistent corporation, said purported assignment was
[24:11.280 --> 24:19.440]  without authority and invalid. Plaintiff's witness had no knowledge of who and what entity
[24:19.440 --> 24:26.360]  might have instructed MERS as nominee to attempt to assign or transfer any interest of said
[24:26.360 --> 24:32.160]  mortgage which in any event would have been invalid because the entity had no ownership
[24:32.160 --> 24:38.680]  interest in the mortgage and was merely named as nominee for the non-existent corporate
[24:38.680 --> 24:47.080]  mortgagee. Now here's the kicker. Based on the foregoing, the Plaintiff Bank of America
[24:47.080 --> 24:52.520]  has no standing to bring this action. The Plaintiff has no legal right to attempt to
[24:52.520 --> 24:59.040]  claim ownership of the subject's note and mortgage or any right as servicer for some
[24:59.040 --> 25:05.600]  unknown entity and is without any legal basis to attempt to foreclose this mortgage or to
[25:05.600 --> 25:13.240]  collect on the mortgage note because America's wholesale lender, a New York corporation did
[25:13.240 --> 25:20.800]  not exist in 2005 and was never formed as a corporation by Plaintiff or its predecessors
[25:20.800 --> 25:28.640]  in interest. The collection of mortgage payments by the Plaintiff and its predecessors in interest
[25:28.640 --> 25:36.680]  was therefore illegal and they were without any legal right to receive and use or disperse
[25:36.680 --> 25:44.200]  the funds therefrom on behalf of any owner of the note or mortgage or any other party.
[25:44.200 --> 25:51.200]  Defendant is therefore entitled to recover from Plaintiff. All funds reflected on Plaintiff's
[25:51.200 --> 25:58.480]  exhibit four, which Plaintiff's witness testified reflected the payment history of money paid
[25:58.480 --> 26:04.680]  by defendant to Plaintiff or its predecessors in interest because the subject note and mortgage
[26:04.680 --> 26:12.320]  were invalid because the alleged mortgage lender did not exist and did not have the legal
[26:12.320 --> 26:20.840]  right to receive and retain or disperse said funds. Defendant is also entitled to recover
[26:20.840 --> 26:28.920]  from Plaintiff. All costs and attorney fees incurred by defendant in this action pursuant
[26:28.920 --> 26:36.040]  to the terms and conditions of the said mortgage note and mortgage upon which Plaintiff faced
[26:36.040 --> 26:44.600]  this action and pursuant to the terms of Florida Statute 57105 as the prevailing party. The
[26:44.600 --> 26:49.960]  court finds the principal and interest paid by defendant to Plaintiff or its predecessors
[26:49.960 --> 26:56.320]  in interest in the amount of 55,000 in change. As shown on Plaintiff's exhibit four, presented
[26:56.320 --> 27:04.000]  a trial is recoverable by Plaintiff by defendant from Plaintiff and defendant is entitled to
[27:04.000 --> 27:13.280]  judgment against Plaintiff in the amount of 55,680.28 plus interest on the amount of each
[27:13.280 --> 27:22.120]  respected payment at the statutory rate for each year in question from the year 2005 through
[27:22.120 --> 27:31.960]  the date of defendant's last payment in October 2010 in the amount of $8,206.87 and continuing
[27:31.960 --> 27:38.720]  to date of the final judgment. Defendant has presented to this court a computation of the
[27:38.720 --> 27:45.920]  said payment and the interest due thereon from the date of each respected payment that,
[27:45.920 --> 27:48.920]  you know, totally.
[27:48.920 --> 27:59.760]  This goes exactly to the issue we've been bringing about MERS doing an assignment of
[27:59.760 --> 28:06.560]  the security instrument after a apparently legitimate mortgage company has went out of
[28:06.560 --> 28:14.400]  business. And we find this all the time. So this is major.
[28:14.400 --> 28:24.560]  It goes to most states, statutes requiring a foreign entity, a foreign entity being let's
[28:24.560 --> 28:32.480]  say, such as Bank of America. Bank of America is not headquartered in Texas. So Bank of America
[28:32.480 --> 28:37.440]  would have to come to the secretary of state for the state of Texas and file documents
[28:37.440 --> 28:42.600]  and pay fees in order to play in their sandbox and be rushed in the courts.
[28:42.600 --> 28:50.200]  Glad you mentioned Bank of America because we had Jeff Sedgwick call in on this issue.
[28:50.200 --> 28:56.560]  A few years back, a judge in Utah threw Bank of America out of Utah.
[28:56.560 --> 28:57.560]  Yeah.
[28:57.560 --> 29:02.920]  Well, a week later, the feds come in and said they don't have to register in the state.
[29:02.920 --> 29:07.120]  They registered with the fed, named to business anywhere they want to. And this is what Jeff
[29:07.120 --> 29:13.200]  is talking about because they are a national association.
[29:13.200 --> 29:23.400]  Registry requirement does not apply to a national association who's doing business under the
[29:23.400 --> 29:30.640]  authority of the fed, but only the national associations, not all these mortgage companies
[29:30.640 --> 29:33.480]  that the bank set up so they could bankrupt them.
[29:33.480 --> 29:34.480]  Right.
[29:34.480 --> 29:35.480]  I mean, that was the whole thing.
[29:35.480 --> 29:43.080]  Well, that applies equally to national banking associations and national savings.
[29:43.080 --> 29:44.080]  Right.
[29:44.080 --> 29:53.080]  They act under the cover of the fed, but if they're not one of those two, then this applies
[29:53.080 --> 29:54.080]  to them.
[29:54.080 --> 29:55.080]  You hear the music?
[29:55.080 --> 29:56.080]  Yeah.
[29:56.080 --> 29:57.080]  I hear the music.
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[33:09.800 --> 33:26.280]  Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm going to solve them to the end of them and prosecute them.
[33:26.280 --> 33:46.840]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me. Prosecute them wickedly that you see.
[33:46.840 --> 34:01.880]  Welcome back to ruleoflawradio folks. I dove off the cliff for Randy just to save Randy
[34:01.880 --> 34:06.160]  because I saw he was going off the cliff but I didn't have my color page. Welcome to live
[34:06.160 --> 34:16.800]  radio. Leslie, hang on just a second. Let me see if Leslie is unmuted. Leslie isn't
[34:16.800 --> 34:22.000]  not unmuted. Leslie, I did not find, are you with me, Leslie?
[34:22.000 --> 34:25.520]  Yes, I'm here. Very good, very good. Okay, let me minimize
[34:25.520 --> 34:31.040]  this page. Now, I've been looking for the case that you cited out of Seminole County,
[34:31.040 --> 34:37.840]  it was, yeah, I guess it was Seminole County, Florida. I was looking for it as you cited
[34:37.840 --> 34:44.080]  it but I did not find it under that citation. What style I did find something under was
[34:44.080 --> 34:52.200]  Bank of America National or Bank of, as it reads, Bank of America, cut, take two or three,
[34:52.200 --> 34:59.720]  Bank of America NA, successor by merger to BAC Home Loans Servicing LLP, FKA Countrywide
[34:59.720 --> 35:07.720]  Home Loans Servicing LLP as plaintiffs versus Linda A. Nash at our defendants, cause number
[35:07.720 --> 35:20.600]  59-2011-CA-004389. Are we on the same page? That's the one.
[35:20.600 --> 35:28.360]  Okay, where did you leave off reading? Because I spent, I had my brain split in two different
[35:28.360 --> 35:32.280]  places looking for it and listening to what you were reading. So where did you leave off
[35:32.280 --> 35:37.840]  in this, in this judgment? I started it, I started at nine and went to 13.
[35:37.840 --> 35:44.840]  Perfect. Thank you. Okay, so folks, for your benefit, I'm not going to read that again.
[35:44.840 --> 35:51.320]  It's a good thing the show's archived. Go back to this time marker and find it. Thank
[35:51.320 --> 35:58.640]  you. Leslie, pick up the ball, honey, and take this thing to the end zone.
[35:58.640 --> 36:04.120]  Okay, what I found interesting about this is number one, America's Hostile Lendr. We
[36:04.120 --> 36:10.280]  discussed this a couple of months ago because there was that lawsuit about that Countrywide
[36:10.280 --> 36:17.440]  sued them, sued America's Hostile Lendr Incorporated. That was not the same lender, not the same
[36:17.440 --> 36:25.760]  agency, not the same person. I thought it was very interesting that they put in there
[36:25.760 --> 36:33.360]  that they were not a corporation in 2005, but also that they were never incorporated
[36:33.360 --> 36:40.040]  by Bank of America, Countrywide Homelands, and all those people there. They didn't say
[36:40.040 --> 36:45.240]  it was never incorporated. It was never incorporated by those people.
[36:45.240 --> 36:48.840]  Right. Did you catch that?
[36:48.840 --> 36:55.040]  Yes, absolutely. I thought that was very good. So that if anybody's going to use that, you
[36:55.040 --> 37:00.080]  have to be specific. You can't say it was never incorporated. It was never incorporated
[37:00.080 --> 37:02.040]  by those people.
[37:02.040 --> 37:12.520]  Correct. Elements. This is how important elements are. You miss one, you miss the whole thing.
[37:12.520 --> 37:16.520]  Satisfy them all. The pie is yours.
[37:16.520 --> 37:21.280]  I also found it interesting that they made the bank return all the money and interest.
[37:21.280 --> 37:26.480]  That made me feel warm and fuzzy all over.
[37:26.480 --> 37:29.720]  Now that I've got this file downloaded, I'm going to go back and give it some more attention
[37:29.720 --> 37:35.680]  because this has got teeth. Folks, every now and again, the courts will put something out
[37:35.680 --> 37:39.280]  with teeth, and this is one of them. Randy?
[37:39.280 --> 37:46.680]  The problem is, there are some judges that sometimes are fair and honest in spite of
[37:46.680 --> 37:57.800]  themselves. That's not really fair, I suppose, but these are complex issues and we tend to
[37:57.800 --> 38:04.400]  represent these issues only from our perspective. So when we don't get a ruling that reflects
[38:04.400 --> 38:14.120]  our perspective, we want to presume that the court is corrupt and because it didn't give
[38:14.120 --> 38:23.480]  us what we want. So, I guess perhaps I pick on the courts more than they deserve. But
[38:23.480 --> 38:35.680]  they're big boys. They can handle it. I said perhaps. I just don't like to sound like I
[38:35.680 --> 38:43.320]  always consider anything. The thing that the courts are always corrupt is not a very tenable
[38:43.320 --> 38:48.320]  position. There is always an exception to every rule.
[38:48.320 --> 38:55.040]  Yeah, politics. There's some politics we don't know about, but that's okay. We'll take what
[38:55.040 --> 38:59.840]  we can get. This was an incredible opinion.
[38:59.840 --> 39:09.160]  Isn't that restruticata in the part where it says that they were about New York, about
[39:09.160 --> 39:14.480]  the corporation and stuff? Can't it be included as restruticata in any case?
[39:14.480 --> 39:20.480]  They can now. They can now. Resruticata. Let me explain something about resruticata. There's
[39:20.480 --> 39:26.360]  a difference between case law and resruticata. Case law is something that happened in another
[39:26.360 --> 39:35.560]  case that would convince the court to decide in your case the same way that previous did.
[39:35.560 --> 39:44.520]  Now resruticata is specific to your case. You out there homeowners who are anybody, anybody
[39:44.520 --> 39:51.040]  that's fighting anything in court. If you get a judgment against you, that is considered
[39:51.040 --> 39:58.800]  resruticata. If you get a judgment against your opponent, that is considered resruticata.
[39:58.800 --> 40:06.440]  It does not, resruticata does not extend outside your specific case. Yes, but then it becomes
[40:06.440 --> 40:09.640]  collateral estoppel. It does certainly.
[40:09.640 --> 40:19.320]  Now that's, Leslie, that's probably the term you want to look for because since that, since
[40:19.320 --> 40:28.800]  Bank of America and Countrywide came into court and brought this particular argument
[40:28.800 --> 40:37.840]  into court that they were there as a successor and assigned for Americans wholesale lenders.
[40:37.840 --> 40:44.120]  And the court said American wholesale lenders never existed. Now they can never go into
[40:44.120 --> 40:52.040]  court again and make this same argument, whether it's in your case or any other case, because
[40:52.040 --> 40:59.840]  now it is resruticata and becomes collateral estoppel. If they attempt to bring this in
[40:59.840 --> 41:04.960]  another case, then they should get sanctions. Agreed.
[41:04.960 --> 41:10.360]  Okay. So if, if, if that with sanctions would be on a separate motion.
[41:10.360 --> 41:16.400]  Okay. So if someone, if someone was behind in their mortgage and they had America's wholesale
[41:16.400 --> 41:26.880]  lender, would they then put in like a motion to dismiss or preliminary objections?
[41:26.880 --> 41:35.760]  Wait a minute. That's a contradiction of terms. You can't have wholesale lenders, American
[41:35.760 --> 41:45.800]  wholesale lenders. Good point. Good point. Good point.
[41:45.800 --> 41:50.440]  But if they had that party, the New York corporation in their mortgage, couldn't they say there's
[41:50.440 --> 41:54.280]  collateral estoppel? They can't bring this mortgage in because this mortgage is void
[41:54.280 --> 41:58.040]  because this is the collateral estoppel. It's already been decided.
[41:58.040 --> 42:07.800]  Yeah. They should raise an issue to, to strike whatever pleading contained it as this, the,
[42:07.800 --> 42:14.520]  the plaintiff is subject to collateral estoppel from bringing this particular issue.
[42:14.520 --> 42:15.520]  Okay.
[42:15.520 --> 42:21.120]  Oh, that'd be great fun. That'd really jerk a knot in their shorts.
[42:21.120 --> 42:22.120]  Mm-hmm.
[42:22.120 --> 42:29.720]  Now, Randy, would this extend, would this decision extend outside the state of Florida?
[42:29.720 --> 42:31.520]  Africa or outside Florida?
[42:31.520 --> 42:40.000]  I don't see how this could be anything other than, we call it good faith and I'm pretty
[42:40.000 --> 42:43.960]  caught up when you bring in a decision by another court.
[42:43.960 --> 42:44.960]  Yeah.
[42:44.960 --> 42:53.400]  Unless there's something, unless there's something statutorily to the contrary in another state
[42:53.400 --> 42:58.080]  because I'm, I'm seeing that this is a state issue, not a federal issue.
[42:58.080 --> 43:05.280]  So the court could, are you saying that the, if pled in another state could, this could
[43:05.280 --> 43:09.160]  be taken upon advisement. I understand it wouldn't be controlling.
[43:09.160 --> 43:13.040]  It's full faith and what's the other term?
[43:13.040 --> 43:14.040]  Credit?
[43:14.040 --> 43:15.040]  Credit number nine.
[43:15.040 --> 43:19.680]  Full faith and credit. Yeah, that's it. Okay.
[43:19.680 --> 43:28.720]  What would have to be accepted in another court would be that the fact was established
[43:28.720 --> 43:35.360]  by this court that American wholesale lenders never existed in the first instance.
[43:35.360 --> 43:39.320]  That's what I was doing to say that it never was in New York corporation then.
[43:39.320 --> 43:40.320]  Right.
[43:40.320 --> 43:44.520]  That wasn't a legal opinion. That was an adjudicated fact.
[43:44.520 --> 43:50.920]  Got to break in here, folks. Adjudicated fact, hold that point. We'll be right back after
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[46:47.760 --> 46:52.760]  Welcome back to rule of law radio folks. It is our Friday night marathon. At the top
[46:52.760 --> 46:59.440]  of the hour, we'll be bringing in Pastor Mastit. I'm sorry. Cut, take two. Here we go again.
[46:59.440 --> 47:04.960]  Pastor Mastit, guest of Mr. Kelton's. So, let's see if we can wrap up real quick with
[47:04.960 --> 47:10.720]  Leslie and go to James in Texas. Oh, I just muted Leslie. Leslie, how are you going to
[47:10.720 --> 47:20.120]  wrap this up if I mute you? I'm sorry. I don't either, so I unmuted you. So, a very, very
[47:20.120 --> 47:24.400]  brief nutshell for synopsis and we've got to move on to James.
[47:24.400 --> 47:31.240]  Okay. Well, it's just that I felt it was interesting that people have that in their mortgage that
[47:31.240 --> 47:37.040]  they should just, you know, take a look at what's around using Google AS and find a lot
[47:37.040 --> 47:41.600]  of things where you can add them in, but you have to know where to use them, but you have
[47:41.600 --> 47:48.200]  to also be specific. And I would also add tune in to rule of law radio every Friday night.
[47:48.200 --> 47:54.120]  Tell your friends, tell your neighbors. Tell anybody that has a mortgage. Tell them to be
[47:54.120 --> 48:00.160]  prepared to curl up in their closet in the field position for at least six weeks. Well,
[48:00.160 --> 48:05.040]  I found it very interesting that they're going to get their money back and I'm very
[48:05.040 --> 48:14.560]  impressed. I agree. Yes. That's kind of the cherry on top of the icing, isn't it? I just,
[48:14.560 --> 48:20.280]  yes, yes. Makes me worry and fuzzy all over the place. There you go. Leslie, thank you
[48:20.280 --> 48:25.000]  very much for bringing this to us and I'm going to give more attention to this and pass
[48:25.000 --> 48:31.400]  it along as well. Anything else, my dear? Nope, that's it. Thank you very much. Perfect.
[48:31.400 --> 48:37.520]  Thank you for calling. James in Texas, you and I, my friend, have been back and forth
[48:37.520 --> 48:46.800]  on an issue. Let's see if you're on point here, what you got tonight. I'm here. You
[48:46.800 --> 48:55.760]  have the floor, my friend. I'm trying to talk. Am I, is there a copy? Say copy that. Roger,
[48:55.760 --> 49:04.400]  or let her rip. Okay. Well, I was listening to Leslie and I have to agree with the National
[49:04.400 --> 49:14.120]  Banks Act for the National Associations. They can operate in the States as a principal,
[49:14.120 --> 49:20.760]  but you look at a lot of these banks pleading to come in as a national bank in a as trustee
[49:20.760 --> 49:27.720]  for a principal. They're acting as an agent. They don't have a right and if these are private
[49:27.720 --> 49:35.640]  labels and so forth and registered with the security exchange or offshore, then we're
[49:35.640 --> 49:42.680]  looking at foreign powers. Do they have a right to the court? Then also for the fact
[49:42.680 --> 49:52.880]  is if they are, if it is a securitized trust and it's registered with the SEC and then
[49:52.880 --> 50:00.840]  immediately after the aggregator and the depositor sell it to the trustee, they usually disappear.
[50:00.840 --> 50:08.160]  So how in the hell do you get a chain from A to D to go backwards? You can't do it.
[50:08.160 --> 50:12.560]  It's certainly not in the public record. That's where you're supposed to be able to
[50:12.560 --> 50:19.120]  go to find a chain of title. That's the public record, but we never find these entities.
[50:19.120 --> 50:26.040]  But the other thing is, is with Leslie, now that they've proved that they, to my point,
[50:26.040 --> 50:32.480]  they have proved that a crime bill has been wronged by bringing forward something to the
[50:32.480 --> 50:39.160]  court that's unlawful, that crime bill has been wronged. You can't honor the crime.
[50:39.160 --> 50:43.040]  If it's wrong, it's wrong.
[50:43.040 --> 50:49.560]  Speaking of crime bills, a little off topic, but I thought you might find it interesting.
[50:49.560 --> 50:58.200]  We have been helping some folks in Tarrant County with family law issues and we hammered
[50:58.200 --> 51:06.320]  a judge, Sinha, a district judge in the family court for holding an ex parte hearing where
[51:06.320 --> 51:15.520]  he found sanctions against a woman with no lawyer. We filed a pleading and accused the
[51:15.520 --> 51:23.080]  county's lawyer who petitioned for sanctions and the judge. We charged them with obstruction
[51:23.080 --> 51:30.160]  of justice, stamp and government document, official oppression, a whole number of things.
[51:30.160 --> 51:36.480]  And they threw her in jail to kind of pressure her to get her to make a deal with the other
[51:36.480 --> 51:42.240]  side. We filed a motion to disqualify the judge. The head administrative judge just
[51:42.240 --> 51:52.600]  blew it off. They got a new head administrative judge. We filed a motion to recuse with him
[51:52.600 --> 52:00.360]  and he held a hearing on it, ex parte and just signed it. So we went after him.
[52:00.360 --> 52:09.240]  She just told the litigant that she should file criminal charges against the first judge.
[52:09.240 --> 52:17.480]  He threw the judge under the bus. Yeah, baby. They're feeling the heat. We come back after
[52:17.480 --> 52:24.320]  him criminally. They're feeling it. Well, there's another factor that's in the play
[52:24.320 --> 52:29.960]  is if they don't have, if there is not standing to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction
[52:29.960 --> 52:35.720]  of the court and they continue with it and the court exercise the subject matter jurisdiction,
[52:35.720 --> 52:42.480]  their judicial immunity goes away. Hold them personally criminally liable. That's in nearly
[52:42.480 --> 52:52.800]  every foreclosure case in this state, James. I know. Without exception for the last decade
[52:52.800 --> 53:00.520]  continuing through tomorrow, at least. But 30, 40 years ago, we didn't have this issue
[53:00.520 --> 53:07.560]  that we have today. It's only since it's electronic. Uh huh. Yeah, we didn't have it
[53:07.560 --> 53:14.400]  since we didn't have it until Mars. We didn't have it until the Graham leech. Landmark v.
[53:14.400 --> 53:20.080]  Kessler clearly indicated that this was a fraudulent and flawed strategy. Yes. When
[53:20.080 --> 53:30.920]  Mars came to the landmark case and said this requirement to file a change in interest in
[53:30.920 --> 53:37.640]  the beneficial interest in real property with the county clerk is archaic cumbersome and
[53:37.640 --> 53:42.840]  costly. Too bad. And they come up with his wisdom, a new idea and landmark told them you
[53:42.840 --> 53:49.920]  are right. It is archaic cumbersome and costly. But it is law and until the law is changed,
[53:49.920 --> 53:57.800]  we have no power to his law and we have no power to change it. So this is this is just
[53:57.800 --> 54:07.000]  in support. This is an excellent case. Leslie absolutely made my day. Yeah, this this thing's
[54:07.000 --> 54:21.960]  got teeth. James applicability said it to hang on James. How do you apply this? Okay,
[54:21.960 --> 54:25.800]  be more specific with your question, Steve. I'm not understanding the question you're
[54:25.800 --> 54:34.520]  asking me. Apply what? Okay, if if the average if the average Joe falls into foreclosure,
[54:34.520 --> 54:40.600]  let's say they've got American wholesale lenders. Based on the information that you gave us,
[54:40.600 --> 54:45.880]  how do you apply that information? What type of pleading would you write it into quiet
[54:45.880 --> 54:54.760]  title slander title trespass to try? I'd avoid quiet title because you're limited in your
[54:54.760 --> 55:02.520]  recovery slander the title gives an attorney the capabilities of covering his fees and damages.
[55:03.240 --> 55:08.520]  But you got to miss. Wait, wait, hold on. Can't you recover fees and damages in quiet
[55:08.520 --> 55:13.720]  title? It's just trespass to try title that you can't. Did I misunderstand that?
[55:15.080 --> 55:22.200]  I think Steve has a book that I sent to him that's written by some legal people and it'll
[55:22.200 --> 55:29.000]  explain to you why you'd want to go to slander the title. They don't have a right to slander the title.
[55:31.480 --> 55:38.440]  Now that was an issue that I was never clear on the difference between quiet title and slander
[55:38.440 --> 55:46.520]  title slander title quiet slander title will quiet the controversy over who has right to title
[55:46.520 --> 55:52.760]  just as a quiet title it would result in a quiet title but some of the elements are one of the
[55:52.760 --> 55:58.280]  elements that differs quiet title action against slander title action at least here in the state
[55:58.280 --> 56:05.160]  of texas is the loss of the specific sale that that just needs hints yeah in slander title slander
[56:05.160 --> 56:12.040]  of title invokes harm and damage were correct but doesn't correct you cannot ask for damages in
[56:12.040 --> 56:18.200]  quiet title all you're asking for is to quiet a controversy over who has possession or who
[56:18.200 --> 56:23.720]  has the right of possession or who has the right to title slander title you're asking for damages
[56:23.720 --> 56:29.240]  because somebody messed you up we're running out of time before we bring on pastor massive i'm going
[56:29.240 --> 56:35.480]  to bring in bob bob had a question on point so hang on james stay in there we might need your input
[56:35.480 --> 56:42.360]  okay bob in texas what have you got for us tonight sir
[56:43.880 --> 56:49.320]  well one for you yourself or randy i had called in before but i would like a little bit of more
[56:49.320 --> 56:56.920]  clarification maybe under the federal uh record reduction act where they're allowed to reduce
[56:56.920 --> 57:07.720]  all of these papers to an electronic format that's 16 usc 7w1 okay doesn't a statement of
[57:07.720 --> 57:15.240]  agreement to conversion have to be in the record for it to be an allowable or agreed upon record
[57:16.600 --> 57:25.160]  not that i know of it if it's uh if a agreement documented in there and they have converted
[57:25.160 --> 57:31.960]  a multi-fragulent document without agreement of the party okay are you with such such as in the
[57:31.960 --> 57:42.840]  application there of uh mac of uh santiago v mackey yes yes okay okay well you're referring to
[57:44.040 --> 57:52.280]  the requirement that both parties agree to the electronic filing is that correct that that's
[57:52.280 --> 58:04.360]  what i just whatever code i read that i i'm i'm not okay okay rob uh i hear you i also hear the
[58:04.360 --> 58:09.080]  music in the background means we're going to the top of the hour break to try to to try to to bring
[58:09.080 --> 58:20.040]  this up um i have the understanding that if you ask for the original there you have already said
[58:20.040 --> 58:28.360]  there is no agreeing on anything other than okay and and we're about to to break and we'll be going
[58:28.360 --> 58:37.000]  to pastor massive uh can you call back in like two hours oh yeah i listen religiously james that
[58:37.000 --> 58:41.800]  goes for you too folks we're fixing to go to break we'll be back with pastor massive we're
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[01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.680]  it's all according to the well of the online
[01:03:12.200 --> 01:03:16.840]  i read his book and it says he cares not for the upside
[01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.640]  me
[01:03:19.640 --> 01:03:22.440]  these warmongers come by that term right
[01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:36.360]  i will pay for the war with my body ain't gonna pay for the car with my money i won't pay for
[01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:45.320]  the fun with my body the plans wicked and the logic shoddy ain't gonna pay for the war with my body
[01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:52.840]  i won't pay for the boys with my money ain't gonna pay for the k we are back randy kelton
[01:03:52.840 --> 01:04:00.360]  steve skidmore we have our radio on this friday october the 24th and we have today a very special
[01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:07.560]  guest he's been on the show before but it's been a long time pastor master is on the show
[01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:10.760]  and he wanted to talk about something that is going on
[01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:18.520]  one pastor master that was shown with him every monday night out of new york he's up
[01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:22.920]  there where it never gets warm and we're down here in texas where it never gets cold
[01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:29.960]  hello pastor randy it is good to be back with you here tonight how are you tonight
[01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:36.440]  i am doing wonderful i don't care what steve says steve it's good to meet you as well
[01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:42.760]  steve is not here now he's away from the mic for a minute healing back shortly
[01:04:44.200 --> 01:04:48.040]  all right now listen i heard the way you set this up friend randy i didn't realize
[01:04:49.720 --> 01:04:53.400]  that you were going to have this on a live show i thought you wanted to do your exorcism thing in
[01:04:53.400 --> 01:05:00.920]  private oh the pastor's been wanting to do an exercise of one week for years it'll do it'll
[01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:08.760]  make great video randy you thinking maybe we should send that into america's funniest home videos
[01:05:10.600 --> 01:05:16.440]  it'll do something that's for sure all right let's let's chat a little bit about what what
[01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:21.800]  is happening in the great state of texas you know as a pastor i got i have to go back one step to
[01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.640]  the supreme court and i'm just going to speak in kind of vague generalities here but you all
[01:05:25.640 --> 01:05:33.080]  remember the issues a couple weeks ago the supreme court sidestepped a serious question
[01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:37.480]  that came to them they decided not to hear a same-sex marriage case out of whichever state it was from
[01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:46.040]  one of the appellate courts or district courts and by doing that 35 different states said okay
[01:05:46.040 --> 01:05:51.720]  we can now have same-sex marriage and to me it was an extremely irresponsible move by the supreme
[01:05:51.720 --> 01:05:56.040]  court obviously i'm not in favor of same-sex marriage but leave that aside for a second
[01:05:56.040 --> 01:06:01.880]  what then happened was pastors in in houston texas began to speak out against same-sex marriage
[01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:11.000]  and and all of a sudden i catch in the news uh that the city of houston has issued subpoenas
[01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:17.480]  demanding to see the pastor's sermons and their notes and emails and some other things
[01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:23.240]  and obviously that kind of gets my eye up a little bit and ended up making national news and
[01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:29.080]  was quite the created quite the furor and i said my goodness these people are absolutely out of
[01:06:29.080 --> 01:06:33.160]  control to think that they have the authority to do such a thing because we all know they don't
[01:06:33.160 --> 01:06:39.560]  and the truth is they're not ignorant they know they don't have it either and uh that was the
[01:06:39.560 --> 01:06:46.520]  extent of the story for a few days and then pastor yes can you hear me yes i can got a question
[01:06:46.520 --> 01:06:52.600]  is this steve yes this is what's left of him steve i am glad to have you on the show tonight
[01:06:52.600 --> 01:06:57.720]  because i i always wondered who was it kept randy in line on friday i try i do the best
[01:06:58.680 --> 01:07:03.640]  unfortunately randy has a mind of his own he does on monday's i do a good job keeping in line i
[01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:09.320]  wondered who had him on friday's god that's my task all right sometimes sometimes i fall short
[01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:15.960]  sometimes i succeed but i had a question for you with uh in regard to the the uh church that was
[01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:25.240]  approached by this uh pseudo quasi whatever alleged law enforcement entity was this establishment a 501c3
[01:07:25.240 --> 01:07:30.360]  non non-profit organization i'm actually not positive if they were not but the pseudo quasi
[01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:38.040]  law enforcement agency was the um the attorney for the city of houston it's not a little
[01:07:38.040 --> 01:07:47.480]  really background i've done a little more research on how this came about the city of houston passed
[01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:59.240]  an ordinance that established certain gay rights the churches were putting together put they put
[01:07:59.240 --> 01:08:07.320]  together a petition for a recall and they took it to the clerk and the clerk counted them up and she
[01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:16.520]  stopped at 17 000 they had over 19 000 because they had plenty and then the mayor and the city
[01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:22.360]  attorney just arbitrarily and capriciously throughout a good portion of these signatures
[01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:32.920]  so some people got together apparently some churches and filed suit against the city
[01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:40.760]  and it's in this suit or in support of this suit that the subpoenas were issued
[01:08:41.480 --> 01:08:49.480]  okay and and they but the ones who were subpoenaed were not the ones who filed suit
[01:08:50.440 --> 01:08:56.040]  so that's kind of the context of how this came about and that's good i didn't know that background
[01:08:56.040 --> 01:09:00.600]  all i caught was what had broken nationally and didn't dig too deep into it however the next thing
[01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:04.280]  was that the attorney general of the state of texas who i understand is running for governor
[01:09:05.320 --> 01:09:09.880]  greg abbott all right yeah greg abbott will will greg the the attorney general
[01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.000]  issued sent the letter to the city attorney for the city of houston and and without quoting it
[01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.960]  verbatim basically what he said is listen you're treading on constitutionally invalid grounds you
[01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:24.040]  don't have the right to do this it's important that in the city of houston everybody knows that
[01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:28.600]  their religious liberties are protected and the only thing you can do is withdraw those subpoenas
[01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:35.640]  now the city solicitor the city attorney in the in houston basically poo poo's this dismisses it
[01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:41.960]  i'm going to do what i want to do driven by the mayor and so i when i heard that i stepped back
[01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:46.440]  him and i said well wait a second now without knowing all the particulars of the of the statutes
[01:09:46.440 --> 01:09:52.040]  and the laws in in the state of texas the attorney general is someone who could certainly
[01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:57.960]  create a real bad day for the attorney for the city of houston and for the mayor of the city of
[01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:02.520]  houston i mean i would think that if the if the attorney general decided he wanted to get before
[01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:08.440]  grand jury he'd be before grand jury real quickly and i'm sure if he personally lobbied lobby for
[01:10:08.440 --> 01:10:15.560]  indictments for them he could probably get them especially if they are since they especially
[01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:22.360]  since they are transgressing the bounds of their authority that they're limited to by the constitution
[01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:27.080]  it's basically sedition i mean i would think the attorney general could could cause serious
[01:10:27.080 --> 01:10:31.800]  problems to them so i said my goodness why in the world would they ever do this why this has to
[01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:37.160]  this has to be personal why would they go this far out on a limb and then i found out that the real
[01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:42.440]  issue was that the mayor and her wife got offended by the sermons from these pastors
[01:10:43.400 --> 01:10:49.400]  he said ah now it makes sense but the nice thing about public officials when they commit crimes
[01:10:49.400 --> 01:10:55.080]  they always leave a record of them so i called my friend randy in texas and i said randy if this
[01:10:55.080 --> 01:10:59.800]  isn't something that we can get before a grand jury and take you to song properly legally because
[01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:05.880]  it has affected all the citizens in the state of texas and that's how we ended up here yes and i'm
[01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:14.440]  amazed at and and in reading the articles there was the comments by the mayor and this and their
[01:11:14.440 --> 01:11:21.800]  attorney the city's attorney they were amazed at the outcry around the country over this issue
[01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:27.320]  well they think that everybody's simply going to honor their personal agenda you know the bottom
[01:11:27.320 --> 01:11:33.240]  line is the the homosexual community is not a vast community in the country it's very vocal it's
[01:11:33.240 --> 01:11:37.880]  very it's making it's making a lot of waves but it's not it's not a vast community a lot of people
[01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:42.920]  still believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman well this is not standing with this
[01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:51.720]  mayor this particular issue here it happened to occur essentially simultaneously with this marriage
[01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:59.320]  issue but that this wasn't about the marriage issue it was about non-discrimination against gays
[01:11:59.320 --> 01:12:14.680]  okay so but the churches had a basic moral objection and what the pretext of the summons
[01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:27.560]  was is they were looking for sermons where the pastors were encouraging their parishioners to
[01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:34.200]  file to sign petitions you know let's go back to the founding of our country for a minute the the
[01:12:34.200 --> 01:12:39.800]  the reason we have a free nation today is because the revolution was fired from the pulpits in
[01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:45.880]  new england there was a group called the black regiment and these were pastors who understood
[01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:50.360]  freedom these were pastors who understood liberty these were pastors who preached in their churches
[01:12:50.360 --> 01:12:56.280]  that since the since jesus christ died to set us free we have an obligation to live as free men
[01:12:56.280 --> 01:13:00.200]  and they would fire up their congregations then they'd take off their their clerical robes and
[01:13:00.200 --> 01:13:05.160]  they had muskets under there they say who will join me come let's go we need to fight for freedom
[01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:11.480]  and so yes it would be very convenient for the mayor and the city attorney if they could get the
[01:13:11.480 --> 01:13:17.080]  notes of the pastors so that they could control them but it's funny how they never want to excuse
[01:13:17.080 --> 01:13:21.320]  me always wanted to talk about the separation of church and state unless they want to take control
[01:13:21.320 --> 01:13:26.280]  something then suddenly there is no bound between the church and the state exactly and
[01:13:27.320 --> 01:13:35.160]  steve's reference to the 501 c's yeah that's i was looking i was searching for the reason
[01:13:35.160 --> 01:13:41.000]  let me explain the reason i asked about the 501 c3 is i'm looking for a nexus to jurisdiction
[01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:49.160]  if the church if the church is 501 c3 it does have a jurisdiction to the state
[01:13:49.160 --> 01:13:56.360]  if it doesn't yes but it doesn't doesn't apply it doesn't apply here even if you are 501 c3's
[01:13:57.400 --> 01:14:07.240]  this doesn't go to electioneering and that's the only only restriction there is i agree yes i agree
[01:14:07.240 --> 01:14:17.480]  but you know bureaucracy always over steps it's bound always always over steps and they use this
[01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:25.480]  501 c3 as a nexus for them to give up the documents that or the transcripts that they're asking for
[01:14:25.480 --> 01:14:33.720]  if this church that has been approached is not a 501 c3 i'd tell them to go suck eggs they can't
[01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:40.840]  anyway it's getting christmas time we're going to need something to hang on the the tree go suck
[01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:50.200]  eggs before we get deeper into your recipe there let me uh let me let me give you a thought here
[01:14:50.200 --> 01:14:55.800]  the bottom line is this you and i understand the difference between the 501 c3 and a true sovereign
[01:14:55.800 --> 01:15:00.840]  church yes church is a church based on on the guarantees that we were given by our forefathers
[01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:07.000]  but the reality they would never ever ever want to let that truth out and so at a time like this
[01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:10.520]  they're not going to make that they're going to say no no you all have a constitutional protection
[01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.920]  and there isn't separation and the church definitely can't be trumped on by the state
[01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:21.400]  they're not going to let it out of the bag right now the attorney general stepped forward
[01:15:21.400 --> 01:15:27.720]  and basically took that position right away yeah i think we're mixing things up here the fact that
[01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:38.120]  there are 501 c3 would give the government some standing to subpoena financial records which
[01:15:38.120 --> 01:15:45.800]  government 501 c3 is a federal statute the federal okay okay it would give them some
[01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:51.240]  standing to subpoena financial records actually randy let me go let me go back a step how much
[01:15:51.240 --> 01:16:01.560]  time do we have to a break uh one minute six five four okay all right let's it would probably be
[01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:07.560]  better if i tell the the difference with what the 501 c3 actually is because you really have to
[01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:12.440]  understand it to understand why it gives them a nexus of jurisdiction it's very very important
[01:16:12.440 --> 01:16:18.360]  because that's why higher ground is not a 501 c3 is not and never will be and for the record
[01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:22.040]  anyone who's listening any any clergy that are listening to think oh my goodness if you're not
[01:16:22.040 --> 01:16:26.920]  a 501 c3 how in the world can anyone donate anything to you and to be tax exempt there are
[01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:31.560]  all your incomes going to be taxable it is not look at the irs documents the irs documents make it
[01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:38.120]  clear that you do not have to be a 501 c3 and prior to the 1950s no churches with 501 c3
[01:16:38.120 --> 01:16:44.920]  okay hang on 20 seconds all right okay hang on this is randy felton he's did more real
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[01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:48.680]  okay we are back brandy kelton steve skidmore here with our special guest pastor massive
[01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:56.280]  and pastor massive is explaining to us how the 501c3 works pastor thanks thanks let me explain
[01:19:56.280 --> 01:20:02.280]  this for a second because when you really understand what the 501c3 is it'll really help you to frame
[01:20:02.280 --> 01:20:09.000]  this issue that we're talking about so brandy if if if we form a corporation and and we're going to
[01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.880]  sell vacuum cleaners doesn't matter what it is you know we form a company we're going to form
[01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:18.600]  back we're going to sell vacuum cleaners we we go we go to the state and we get a corporation
[01:20:20.280 --> 01:20:25.720]  we're both putting $10,000 into it so no you get 50% of the stock i get 50% of the stock correct
[01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:35.720]  works for me all right so now so now when when someone forms a a church and they and they go
[01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:39.960]  and they to a lawyer say what do we do and he takes them down and has them incorporated
[01:20:41.320 --> 01:20:49.400]  no stock is issued because everyone knows that the church is not for profit and no stock is
[01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:55.160]  issued whatsoever and to to the pastor and so everyone thinks that no stock is issued but
[01:20:55.160 --> 01:21:01.960]  that's not true stock is issued but it's held by the secretary of state and so now the state says
[01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:06.840]  we we have created a corporation and everybody knows that the thing that you create you have
[01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:17.880]  control over and the state says no corporations are tax exempt they're all taxable i don't care
[01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:23.880]  why you started this corporation so now you have to go and apply for this 501c3 status
[01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:31.880]  and you say please master we're going to do good things won't you give us a tax break
[01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:37.240]  and they say well i'll tell you what we'll give we'll put out a smorgasbord here for you a little
[01:21:37.240 --> 01:21:43.000]  buffet and we're going to call it the tax break buffet but you have to take a little bit of everything
[01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:49.400]  because the tax break there's another dish over here called broccoli and there's another one over
[01:21:49.400 --> 01:21:55.160]  here called silence and there's another one over here called no political speech and yeah we'll give
[01:21:55.160 --> 01:22:03.800]  you this buffet to eat at now what's happening you can't pick and choose you got to have a little
[01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:12.040]  of all exactly and and so but and and they'll always win over the churches because the church
[01:22:12.040 --> 01:22:21.000]  which all the 501c3 churches are state created corporations voluntarily
[01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:28.360]  exactly they didn't come in and hold a gun to the pastor's head and said you must come in no the
[01:22:28.360 --> 01:22:34.760]  pastor showed up at their door knocking can i do business with you exactly and come right on in
[01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:41.960]  bingo and now now this one particular issue though it got too big too fast and and they dare not
[01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:48.040]  default to that because they would let the cat out of the bag and that's why the attorney general
[01:22:48.040 --> 01:22:53.640]  of the state of texas sent that letter because because he can't let this go on any further now
[01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:58.520]  he's also running for governor so he's trying to store some brownie points i'm sure i was just gonna
[01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:06.200]  say is a perfect time for that kind of pr absolutely and and and you know god always has little
[01:23:06.200 --> 01:23:11.800]  little details waiting to help us all along the way and that's perfect timing for these churches
[01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:16.200]  but but but the bottom one is they dare this is way too public and if they were to let that cat
[01:23:16.200 --> 01:23:19.640]  out of the bag it'd be a big problem so no they're going to stand strong and and they're going to
[01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:24.600]  call it constitutional guarantees when in reality constitutional guarantees have nothing to do
[01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:30.680]  with a 501c3 church because you are a creature of the state created by the state if however you
[01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:35.320]  did like higher ground did you said i don't want anything from your smorgasbord i don't want any
[01:23:35.320 --> 01:23:40.920]  of your benefits i don't want anything from you the constitution of the united states guarantees us
[01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:47.560]  that god is above you mr government and we're going to set up a church that's protected by the
[01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:53.400]  constitution that thing over which you shall pass no law what part of no law don't you understand
[01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:58.760]  and you want to attack higher ground no no no what part of no law don't you understand you have no
[01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:09.160]  jurisdiction over us whatsoever could that be a way of backing out of a 501c3 rejection yes you
[01:24:09.160 --> 01:24:15.320]  you can undo a 501c3 but keep in mind it's not necessarily an easy process it can be done it is
[01:24:15.320 --> 01:24:20.680]  done but you got to do it the right way because remember someone someone is holding the stock
[01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:26.680]  to that corporation and it's the secretary of state and he's not always the nicest guy in the world
[01:24:30.040 --> 01:24:33.480]  yeah probably you know maybe there's three million dollars worth of church buildings
[01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:39.400]  maybe there's whatever else there was i i forget exactly where i had i wasn't prepared to talk about
[01:24:39.400 --> 01:24:46.840]  that tonight this tonight but there was a couple of incidents where 20 years ago where where cities
[01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:52.200]  bulldozed down churches because they were in big fights with people and no one could understand
[01:24:52.200 --> 01:24:55.640]  understand how can they do this how can they do a separation of church and state religious freedom
[01:24:55.640 --> 01:25:01.160]  they can't do yeah they can do it because you took a corporation and they opted in and it was to
[01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:06.840]  theirs all along you opted in you volunteered and so yes they can do it and and you know i said prior
[01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:12.920]  to the 1950s almost no churches were incorporated they all simply existed as churches but a man who
[01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:19.480]  was no friend of the church from the great state of texas linden baines johnson started that whole
[01:25:19.480 --> 01:25:26.600]  thing he did that so now they they've got a whole lake named after him up here or down here
[01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:35.960]  do they really they didn't know that lake lbj there's johnson city uh mopak one of the major
[01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:43.160]  thoroughfares through the capital the capital city of austin uh mopak meaning mr uh being an
[01:25:43.160 --> 01:25:49.800]  acronym for missouri pacific uh the the highway is now being expanded but the original highway
[01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:56.120]  was constructed so that lbj could have a quicker way home really he swung a deal with the missouri
[01:25:56.120 --> 01:26:02.120]  pacific railroad to fund uh to petition and fund for the building of a road and he got it
[01:26:02.120 --> 01:26:06.440]  he started fighting traffic on his way home he wanted to he wanted to uh
[01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:13.880]  nearly as at that time as close as you could get to a free pass because he had a heavy foot
[01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:20.120]  he liked to drive but he had a heavy foot but uh yeah he wanted to get home well i guess he had
[01:26:20.120 --> 01:26:25.160]  friends in high places he did but but so do we here at higher ground we have real good friends
[01:26:25.160 --> 01:26:32.200]  in high places what my my meaning is is that yeah lbj was far from the angel a lot of people would
[01:26:32.200 --> 01:26:37.160]  like to hold him up to no absolutely he was definitely part of putting together this this
[01:26:37.160 --> 01:26:43.320]  whole attack on churches um however it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out
[01:26:43.320 --> 01:26:51.640]  to me the the attorney general wins great accolades from the people of texas if he takes
[01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:57.240]  strong action against the city attorney and the mayor of houston well he started off on
[01:26:57.240 --> 01:27:03.480]  the right foot i think but by actually forcing his foot into the door and and and submitting what he
[01:27:03.480 --> 01:27:17.160]  has i agree with you your summation of the 501c status would indicate that the city has some standing
[01:27:17.160 --> 01:27:27.080]  to make this request because what they're claiming is the sermons they're trying to access are the
[01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:40.520]  sermons wherein the pastors promoted a petition to recall a law and they're claiming this violates
[01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:50.440]  the 501c status that would fall under if if i'm thinking correctly the uh the some of the items
[01:27:51.320 --> 01:27:59.800]  offered on the buffet uh as pastor massed so artfully put out uh are represented were political
[01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:12.440]  speech strict limitations on that uh the when i think of politics i think of all three branches
[01:28:12.440 --> 01:28:21.400]  of government the judicial being one so yeah you're limit i would think that under the 501c
[01:28:21.400 --> 01:28:31.480]  three you would be extremely limited in speaking to your congregation uh as to how the as to sway
[01:28:31.480 --> 01:28:41.160]  them into going to voice uh their opinion on the passage of some bill or or some other type of thing
[01:28:42.200 --> 01:28:47.480]  that would be political speech steve you're absolutely correct and if this had played out in
[01:28:47.480 --> 01:28:52.040]  the city of houston the city attorney and the mayor would get away with what they're doing
[01:28:52.040 --> 01:28:56.760]  and they'd be a big problem but unfortunately for them in this great information they must hit
[01:28:56.760 --> 01:29:02.120]  twitter facebook and all of a sudden abc mbc fox and cnn and everybody at a hold of it so now
[01:29:02.120 --> 01:29:06.680]  they've got a great big national story and there's an old saying in politics making a thing public
[01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:14.280]  makes it intolerable and this is now very public all across the world so now all eyes are on the
[01:29:14.280 --> 01:29:22.600]  state of texas the attorney general has done the right thing theoretically legally because they are
[01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:26.920]  likely a 501c three i'm not sure if they are enough but they're likely a 501c three um
[01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:31.160]  they could get away with what they're doing however that would let the cat out of the bag
[01:29:31.160 --> 01:29:37.880]  they can't do that it would it would this is a kind of a cat that this is putting the not only the
[01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:43.880]  attorney general but he's actually stepped into a catch 22 but this whole situation is a catch 22
[01:29:45.240 --> 01:29:49.960]  sure it is and i hear the music and i hear the music in the background pastor
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[01:33:41.480 --> 01:33:45.720]  welcome back to rule all radio folks you're listening before our friday night marathon
[01:33:46.440 --> 01:33:56.200]  tonight this 24th of october 2014 and on board with us is pastor massatt uh pastor massatt
[01:33:56.200 --> 01:34:06.360]  uh yes yes you have kicked up a hornet's nest here uh come on i'm not i've only just begun
[01:34:06.360 --> 01:34:11.640]  you know our our nation our nation was founded on some serious christian principles i want to
[01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:16.920]  give you a couple of quotes from our founding fathers thomas jefferson god who gave us life
[01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:22.040]  gave us liberty and can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction
[01:34:22.040 --> 01:34:27.320]  that these liberties are a gift from god i tremble for my country when i reflect that god is just
[01:34:27.320 --> 01:34:32.520]  and his justice cannot sleep forever john jay the first chief justice of the united states supreme
[01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:38.760]  court says god has given to our people the choice of their rulers and is the duty as well as the
[01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:44.440]  privilege and interest of our christian nation to select and prefer christians for their rulers
[01:34:44.440 --> 01:34:49.560]  now i'm not i'm not going to get into a whole political thing about who should be in office
[01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:53.400]  and what the qualifications should be although our founding fathers felt very strongly about it
[01:34:53.400 --> 01:34:59.080]  but i am going to say that they recognize and set up this nation so that the church was sovereign
[01:34:59.080 --> 01:35:06.280]  so that congress could make no law against the church and so now i go back to unless they want
[01:35:06.280 --> 01:35:13.400]  to let the cat out of the bag that somehow they've hijacked the real republic that we have they have
[01:35:13.400 --> 01:35:19.000]  no choice now that this is playing out as big as it is but to defend the constitutionally guaranteed
[01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:26.040]  protections for the church the governor i think will follow the excuse me the attorney general who
[01:35:26.040 --> 01:35:29.560]  wants to be governor i think he'll follow this he'll go to the mad on this he can't lose
[01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:47.240]  that brings a question if the government shall make no law it doesn't say the government shall
[01:35:47.240 --> 01:35:54.920]  make no law that the churches don't agree with that's right they'll make no law so even if the
[01:35:54.920 --> 01:36:06.120]  churches were conned into opting into this statutory steam is it still not unconstitutional
[01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:12.520]  even if you agreed to it well i would i would agree that is but you you've got a tough road a tough
[01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:17.480]  road to hoe if if you try to present it that way you know james madison i look at him every once
[01:36:17.480 --> 01:36:22.200]  in a while he said this we have staked the whole of civilization and all of our political
[01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:28.840]  institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each of us
[01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:34.360]  to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the ten commandments of
[01:36:34.360 --> 01:36:40.840]  almighty god see the truth is we have this long history of being a christian nation i'm not forcing
[01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:46.520]  anyone to be a religion any religion at all but let's make it clear the state has absolutely no
[01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:51.800]  authority to trance all over the church the fact that they've created a covert system and
[01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:58.520]  suckered many pastors into believing that it was the way to do it normally to get away with it
[01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:03.000]  this time they're not getting with it it got very public very quick very big
[01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:14.600]  faster i'd like to caveat to that a little bit off topic but to you you'd mentioned at the end
[01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:21.480]  i completely agreed that america was established a christian nation however that does not mean
[01:37:21.480 --> 01:37:27.160]  that america is a nation of christians now steve you have your sound issue
[01:37:27.160 --> 01:37:34.920]  am i what's on the show i haven't well you're sounding kind of flaky i mean i'm not personally
[01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:43.560]  flaky but this uh are you close enough to your mic that's an odd well something's breaking up in
[01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:55.000]  your in your sound something's not working on my hand technically how's that that's a little
[01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:00.440]  better that's a little better okay just turn them like down and beat the people on the mess out of
[01:38:00.440 --> 01:38:06.280]  my mixer just check your mic check your mic plug it sounds like it may be a bad connection something
[01:38:07.480 --> 01:38:13.800]  how's that any better no it's still better we'll try to fix it on the break i'll i'll back out okay
[01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:20.840]  if if i can pass or are you hearing me all right i'm making out what you're saying you are coming
[01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:25.560]  in distorted but i'm making out what you're saying okay we'll see what's what's going on on the break
[01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:35.480]  but uh if i can uh if i can clearly be heard uh but when you said that something came to mind an
[01:38:35.480 --> 01:38:42.360]  image that i have seen that is indelibly burned in my brain and that is the inauguration of barack
[01:38:42.360 --> 01:38:50.200]  hussain obama uh into the alleged position of presidency and during at his inauguration he took
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:58.280]  me swore his oath on two books one i believe to be the caron which he actually had his hand
[01:38:58.280 --> 01:39:05.240]  in contact with and under that is another book which appears to be a bible if the president
[01:39:05.240 --> 01:39:14.040]  or the alleged whatever pseudo quasi president of this nation swore his oath on a caron would that
[01:39:14.040 --> 01:39:22.520]  have in your opinion as as a man of god and as a as a preacher the portrayer of the word of god
[01:39:24.440 --> 01:39:30.840]  would that have established this country a muslim nation no it would not what it would
[01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:35.400]  have established as a fraud because according to the constitution it's clear what the path is to
[01:39:35.400 --> 01:39:40.840]  become the president of this christian nation and unless they're thank you very much that's right
[01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:48.680]  unless there's a change ahead of time uh all he did was commit a fraud period okay well i'm sorry
[01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:55.640]  to go so far off topic but there there has been a very strong influence that has raised its head
[01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:03.080]  here as of late in the last couple of years and yeah you know i i really don't want to go
[01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:10.200]  that deep into it but uh raises concern to to a christian nation
[01:40:12.120 --> 01:40:19.000]  yeah we we yeah that's what it is it's a nation under attack and uh this is this is part of the
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:25.560]  reason that our founding fathers developed a very limited central government because there was always
[01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:30.840]  the chance that someone could grab hold of a position there and be able to steer the ship
[01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:35.240]  in a direction that isn't intended to go that's why we were set up with a very limited central
[01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:38.840]  government that's why we were supposed to have strong states you know if you look at liberty
[01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:44.120]  the whole history of liberty has nothing to do with government liberty never comes from government
[01:40:44.120 --> 01:40:48.600]  the whole history of liberty is the limitation of government power not the increase of it
[01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:55.880]  the government never brings liberty and so when you see this incredible encroachment
[01:40:56.600 --> 01:41:02.440]  by the city of houston in its official capacity to subvert and go beyond what the constitution
[01:41:02.440 --> 01:41:09.880]  allows i to me personally the whole 501c3 issue is a fraud because if you said we'll pass but
[01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:14.440]  if you said to a pastor up front listen we've got this 501c3 status that'll give you a
[01:41:14.440 --> 01:41:21.960]  a we'll we'll grant you a tax exempt status under our system if you said the whole story
[01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:26.120]  because the rest of the sentence would be because right now you are actually tax immune
[01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:31.000]  because there's no way we can tax you because you're protected by the constitution because
[01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:35.560]  you're a church you don't have to come here but if you do then we'll be able to control you there
[01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:40.360]  isn't a single pastor any place in america who would take that deal so the only reason that
[01:41:40.360 --> 01:41:47.080]  any church has a 501c3 is because they've been conned into it and fraud fraud vitiates any claim
[01:41:47.080 --> 01:41:54.520]  and and your and your consideration here is that if the mayor pushes this issue
[01:41:56.040 --> 01:42:04.520]  the church is in in in order to be able to defend against the issue will demonstrate the fraud and
[01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:09.640]  this whole cat gets out of the bag they can't let that happen they wouldn't let that happen but yes
[01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:14.200]  that's that's the point that that's exactly what would happen so it's got too big too fast
[01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:20.840]  welcome to the information age okay on the in the next segment we're going to open the phone
[01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:28.040]  line see if you have a a question preferably on this topic a question a comment feel free to
[01:42:28.040 --> 01:42:33.960]  give us a call i have the phone bridge open so you can call in and get in line now it's 512
[01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:44.760]  646 1984 give us a call chime in uh go ahead guys you pastor massad you you very loosely quoted uh
[01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:54.680]  one of my favorite case citations usd throckmorton fraud the fraud vch the most solemn contracts
[01:42:54.680 --> 01:43:01.240]  documents and even judgments absolutely correct once fraud is discovered you can go all the way
[01:43:01.240 --> 01:43:09.320]  back to the point of the fraud everything after that is totally vitiated correct now now if you if
[01:43:09.320 --> 01:43:14.360]  you take that ruling and apply it to what the the various municipalities and states are doing
[01:43:14.360 --> 01:43:18.360]  with the frauds that they're perpetrating on people oh my goodness the problem is it's gone
[01:43:18.360 --> 01:43:22.520]  off for so long and it's been unchecked for so long that people think it's business as usual
[01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:27.640]  they don't know that there was ever a time that a church didn't have a 501c3 well now that we've
[01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:36.520]  invoked a statutory element of fraud let's discuss uh statutes of limitations uh i just i read just
[01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:44.920]  today that uh an individual has to recover on fraud upon discovery you have four years to file
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[01:46:49.320 --> 01:46:51.880]  welcome back to rule of law radio folks 512
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[01:47:00.060 --> 01:47:10.600]  So if you'd like to comment, ask questions, Pastor Massey, folks, we're raising an issue
[01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:12.960]  that is starting in the church.
[01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:20.240]  But don't, by any stretch of your imagination, think that it is limited to that.
[01:47:20.240 --> 01:47:26.680]  If you do, God, help me, you are a fool.
[01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:28.520]  This is where it starts.
[01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:32.720]  This is where it branches out into your personal life.
[01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:36.280]  This is where it crawls out.
[01:47:36.280 --> 01:47:39.920]  This is the seed.
[01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.360]  You are the soil.
[01:47:42.360 --> 01:47:45.360]  Government is the roots.
[01:47:45.360 --> 01:47:51.600]  You see how that seed has germinated through the 501c3.
[01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.800]  Now the roots have spread throughout the congregation of this church.
[01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:02.840]  It will soon go through the doors and reach out into the community that doesn't even go
[01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:04.840]  to church.
[01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:05.840]  Pastor?
[01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:08.880]  Yeah, that's the absolute truth.
[01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:14.080]  You know, when you stop and think about the great warnings that we've had from history
[01:48:14.080 --> 01:48:19.440]  from our founding fathers, Pastor Kenry said that without the Bill of Rights, the Constitution
[01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:22.000]  is an agreement with hell and a refuge of lies.
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:25.160]  He said God Himself wouldn't want so much power.
[01:48:25.160 --> 01:48:26.600]  The Bill of Rights is essential.
[01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:29.600]  That's why to our freedom, to our liberty, that's why it's coming under attack all over
[01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:30.600]  the place.
[01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:34.400]  That's why these people don't want you to know that there is freedom of speech.
[01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:38.560]  That's why these people don't want you to know that there is freedom of religion.
[01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:48.560]  Well, the Constitution itself, by itself, set aside the amendments, but the Constitution
[01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:51.920]  by itself grants nobody any rights.
[01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:55.280]  It is directly limitations on government.
[01:48:55.280 --> 01:49:08.600]  It was the Bill of Rights that I believe in, I forget, there were two opposing ideologies
[01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:15.040]  when constructing the Constitution, but all were pretty much in agreement with the exception,
[01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:22.040]  I believe, of Thomas Jefferson, that these things that you're asking for for us to make
[01:49:22.040 --> 01:49:26.680]  amendments are just a given, should go unspoken.
[01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:32.280]  It is unnecessary to write these down.
[01:49:32.280 --> 01:49:36.920]  Let me jump in and tell you why, because the truth is even the Bill of Rights doesn't
[01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:38.400]  give us any rights.
[01:49:38.400 --> 01:49:42.000]  A trick question I ask when I teach on the Constitution all the time is I always say,
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:46.720]  how many of you would put up your hands and say that we have constitutional rights?
[01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:49.520]  People put their hands up and say, we're supposed to, and I say, no, actually the truth is we
[01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:50.520]  don't.
[01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:54.720]  And I go back to the Declaration of Independence because it says this, we hold these truths
[01:49:54.720 --> 01:49:58.840]  to be self-evident that all men are created equal and that they're endowed by their Creator
[01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.000]  with certain unalienable rights.
[01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.200]  They'll come from government.
[01:50:03.200 --> 01:50:04.840]  The Bill of Rights doesn't.
[01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:09.240]  They come from God, and that's what our founding fathers recognize, that these rights come
[01:50:09.240 --> 01:50:10.240]  from God.
[01:50:10.240 --> 01:50:12.320]  No, the Constitution doesn't give us any rights.
[01:50:12.320 --> 01:50:15.000]  The Declaration of Independence doesn't give us any rights.
[01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:16.960]  The Bill of Rights doesn't give us any rights.
[01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:21.240]  It protects the rights that are given to us by God Almighty, and it does that by limiting
[01:50:21.240 --> 01:50:22.240]  government.
[01:50:22.240 --> 01:50:27.600]  And that's why you see someone like the mayor of the city of Houston, and you see the city
[01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:31.240]  attorney of the city of Houston saying, we don't care about your rights, we're going
[01:50:31.240 --> 01:50:32.800]  to do what we want to do.
[01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:35.000]  That is sedition.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.560]  That's what that is, to undermine the Constitution.
[01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:38.560]  That is felony.
[01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:43.040]  Now, how are the good citizens of the state of Texas going to handle this?
[01:50:43.040 --> 01:50:45.200]  I know what our founding fathers would have done.
[01:50:45.200 --> 01:50:51.320]  They would have been there with their muskets, placing them under arrest.
[01:50:51.320 --> 01:50:55.000]  You have proven that you're not worthy of the public position that you hold now.
[01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:59.440]  You have proven that we cannot trust you, and you have committed a felony against the
[01:50:59.440 --> 01:51:04.680]  very foundations of this nation.
[01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:08.480]  I couldn't agree more.
[01:51:08.480 --> 01:51:12.360]  You were invoking organic law.
[01:51:12.360 --> 01:51:14.800]  Organic law is not statute.
[01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:21.680]  Organic law are documents like the Federalist Papers, Anti-Federalist Papers, the Constitution,
[01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:28.480]  the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Declaration of Independence being
[01:51:28.480 --> 01:51:40.320]  one of my favorites, stating that we as the people of the United States, of the North
[01:51:40.320 --> 01:51:51.440]  American continent of America, my paraphrase, that we have a right and a duty, stress, duty,
[01:51:51.440 --> 01:51:58.120]  emphasis on duty to throw off such forms of government that would reduce us to utter
[01:51:58.120 --> 01:51:59.120]  despotism.
[01:51:59.120 --> 01:52:01.200]  Do we not, Pastor?
[01:52:01.200 --> 01:52:02.200]  We do.
[01:52:02.200 --> 01:52:03.200]  That's how it begins.
[01:52:03.200 --> 01:52:06.880]  That's in there, more how it concludes.
[01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:11.040]  But there's a part of the Declaration that I was just quoting that everybody always
[01:52:11.040 --> 01:52:12.040]  forgets.
[01:52:12.040 --> 01:52:13.040]  Give me one minute here.
[01:52:13.040 --> 01:52:18.040]  It says, among these are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, period, that to secure
[01:52:18.040 --> 01:52:21.800]  these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from
[01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:23.600]  the consent of the governed.
[01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.880]  Everyone ends it there, but there's a comma there, not a period.
[01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:30.280]  And after that, it says this, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive
[01:52:30.280 --> 01:52:35.400]  of these ends, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, it is the right of the people to alter or
[01:52:35.400 --> 01:52:39.400]  to abolish it and to institute new government.
[01:52:39.400 --> 01:52:43.760]  That is the authority that we've been given in our founding documents.
[01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.480]  That is the heritage that we have as an American people.
[01:52:47.480 --> 01:52:51.040]  Originally, the motto of our nation was, don't tread on me.
[01:52:51.040 --> 01:52:54.960]  How did it ever get to be, you can't fight City Hall?
[01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:56.960]  Oh, wow.
[01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:57.960]  Yeah.
[01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.000]  That's a good question.
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:03.400]  And right now, citizens of Houston, City Hall is attacking.
[01:53:03.400 --> 01:53:08.400]  And the answer to that, the answer to that is gradually.
[01:53:08.400 --> 01:53:09.400]  Absolutely.
[01:53:09.400 --> 01:53:10.400]  Incrementally.
[01:53:10.400 --> 01:53:11.400]  Incrementally.
[01:53:11.400 --> 01:53:12.400]  Yep.
[01:53:12.400 --> 01:53:13.400]  Absolutely.
[01:53:13.400 --> 01:53:16.120]  And Steve, you hit the nail right on the head.
[01:53:16.120 --> 01:53:17.520]  It's starting with a church.
[01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:18.520]  Yes.
[01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:20.040]  It's not going to end there.
[01:53:20.040 --> 01:53:28.920]  You know, there was a pastor, a pastor, Martin Niemoller, who ended up at a concentration
[01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:29.920]  camp.
[01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:33.160]  And when someone got into his cell afterwards, he had written something on the wall.
[01:53:33.160 --> 01:53:35.360]  And I want to read it to you.
[01:53:35.360 --> 01:53:39.000]  He said, first they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not
[01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.000]  a socialist.
[01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:43.720]  Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade
[01:53:43.720 --> 01:53:44.720]  unionist.
[01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:48.680]  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
[01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:54.920]  Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
[01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:59.560]  I don't care if you're a Bible thumping Christian or not.
[01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:07.040]  The fact that the mayor and the city attorney would misuse the power of the state in your
[01:54:07.040 --> 01:54:11.520]  name, because they're acting in your name, citizens of Houston, the fact that they would
[01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:19.000]  misuse the power of the state to attack a free speech should get up the ire of every
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:24.360]  one of you, and you should be protesting on City Hall for the arrest of those two people
[01:54:24.360 --> 01:54:28.640]  for the crime of sedition, the felonious crime of sedition.
[01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:36.440]  If you don't, and you allow them to get away with it, you're next.
[01:54:36.440 --> 01:54:37.440]  You're next.
[01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:38.440]  That's it.
[01:54:38.440 --> 01:54:43.760]  And it will spread out of Harris County and go into every county in Texas.
[01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:45.040]  Because they will be involved in it.
[01:54:45.040 --> 01:54:46.480]  They will think, no one's going to stop us.
[01:54:46.480 --> 01:54:51.640]  We can do whatever we want, and other people will go by this playbook because they got
[01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:52.640]  away with it.
[01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:54.760]  That's why it has to be checked.
[01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:59.040]  And Randy and I spoke earlier of full faith and credit.
[01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:03.600]  Once it starts here in Texas, guess where it's going?
[01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:05.600]  The other 49.
[01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:08.160]  That's right.
[01:55:08.160 --> 01:55:09.800]  Absolutely correct.
[01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:10.800]  Absolutely correct.
[01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:14.560]  Randy, I heard you chime in.
[01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:20.840]  We just, I was agreeing that it was, you know, when I looked at this, I think everybody
[01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:26.960]  knows on the area that I don't have a particular religious conviction.
[01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:27.960]  Nor do I.
[01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:29.280]  Or the record.
[01:55:29.280 --> 01:55:33.880]  It did not strike me from a religious perspective.
[01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:37.960]  It would struck me from a holy mackerel.
[01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:42.360]  If these guys, if these guys are these people.
[01:55:42.360 --> 01:55:45.520]  Sorry, I call them criminals, Randy.
[01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:46.520]  Yeah.
[01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:48.520]  Well, I wouldn't call it like you see it.
[01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:49.520]  We do.
[01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:51.160]  Well, you commit a crime, you're a criminal.
[01:55:51.160 --> 01:55:52.160]  That's right.
[01:55:52.160 --> 01:55:53.160]  Thank you.
[01:55:53.160 --> 01:56:01.160]  If they are emboldened enough to take on the church this way of all places, you know,
[01:56:01.160 --> 01:56:06.320]  this is not the Rust Belt, the Pastor Master lives up in the Rust Belt.
[01:56:06.320 --> 01:56:13.320]  And here I'm speaking to the political ramifications here because we've been talking about the
[01:56:13.320 --> 01:56:15.960]  politics.
[01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:17.760]  What was she thinking?
[01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:19.240]  This is not the Rust Belt.
[01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:27.320]  This is the Bible Belt right in the middle of it to feel emboldened enough to take such
[01:56:27.320 --> 01:56:33.200]  an outrageous and highly public stance.
[01:56:33.200 --> 01:56:37.720]  When I back up and look at it, you know, she may be right.
[01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:45.360]  If they've accepted the 5013C, they've agreed not to politic from the pulpit and she's addressing
[01:56:45.360 --> 01:56:48.680]  politic taking from the pulpit.
[01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:59.120]  However, you've got to be out of your mind to do that here, especially when this particular
[01:56:59.120 --> 01:57:01.320]  issue is a morality issue.
[01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:06.240]  You can try to call it politicking, but the bottom line is the Bible's real clear about
[01:57:06.240 --> 01:57:07.240]  sodomy.
[01:57:07.240 --> 01:57:09.360]  Oh, did I say that instead of getting right?
[01:57:09.360 --> 01:57:10.360]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:57:10.360 --> 01:57:12.200]  Do we have to put the correct on your show?
[01:57:12.200 --> 01:57:13.200]  Oops.
[01:57:13.200 --> 01:57:14.200]  I'm sorry.
[01:57:14.200 --> 01:57:15.200]  No, I'm not.
[01:57:15.200 --> 01:57:16.200]  I'm sorry.
[01:57:16.200 --> 01:57:18.200]  And the bottom line is it is a morality issue.
[01:57:18.200 --> 01:57:20.120]  Now, I want to make something clear.
[01:57:20.120 --> 01:57:24.080]  It is not hate speech to say that God says that homosexuality is wrong.
[01:57:24.080 --> 01:57:25.320]  It's not hate speech.
[01:57:25.320 --> 01:57:28.280]  It's not hate speech.
[01:57:28.280 --> 01:57:31.400]  And I would never attack any homosexual, period.
[01:57:31.400 --> 01:57:33.040]  We'd share the love of God with them.
[01:57:33.040 --> 01:57:34.040]  We'd try to counsel them.
[01:57:34.040 --> 01:57:35.040]  We'd try to talk to them.
[01:57:35.040 --> 01:57:39.200]  But no way, they're protected in all kinds of other ways against any kind of assaults
[01:57:39.200 --> 01:57:42.360]  or crimes against them or discrimination against them.
[01:57:42.360 --> 01:57:45.480]  They don't need to be especially protected people.
[01:57:45.480 --> 01:57:51.920]  And this really wasn't about protecting gay rights.
[01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:58.120]  This was about the church's fundamental moral conviction.
[01:57:58.120 --> 01:57:59.120]  Yes.
[01:57:59.120 --> 01:58:00.120]  Correct.
[01:58:00.120 --> 01:58:06.000]  And now what you see is the state attempting to attack that not just the conviction, but
[01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:08.200]  that they would dare to voice it.
[01:58:08.200 --> 01:58:15.440]  I think they used this, I think they intentionally used this issue as a segue into something
[01:58:15.440 --> 01:58:18.800]  much bigger, kind of a launchpad.
[01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:23.440]  Because right now, gay rights happens to be a very hot topic.
[01:58:23.440 --> 01:58:24.440]  Yep.
[01:58:24.440 --> 01:58:30.520]  And looking at this, I can't even see the gay community being comfortable with this.
[01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:31.520]  I can't either.
[01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:34.400]  Because this is really not about the gay issue.
[01:58:34.400 --> 01:58:37.480]  Folks, we'll be right back after this brief message.
[01:58:37.480 --> 01:58:42.000]  Actually, we're going to the top of the hour break, so we'll be back after the news, Pastor.
[01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:43.000]  You want to stay with us?
[01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:44.000]  I'll be happy to.
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