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[00:11.280 --> 00:17.120]  I'm Brian Hagen with your Liberty Beat for Monday, July 7, 2014.
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[00:56.480 --> 01:01.000]  In the news, on Saturday, the kidnapping and murder of a Palestinian teenager sparked protests
[01:01.000 --> 01:02.080]  in Israel.
[01:02.080 --> 01:05.920]  The Palestinian Attorney General claimed the boy had been burned alive.
[01:05.920 --> 01:10.120]  This is reportedly the latest of several kidnappings since June 12.
[01:10.120 --> 01:14.520]  At the funeral for the teen, a group of Palestinians threw stones as Israeli police fired tear
[01:14.520 --> 01:16.800]  caps, stun guns and rubber bullets.
[01:16.800 --> 01:23.120]  The Israeli police arrested six suspects on Sunday.
[01:23.120 --> 01:27.840]  Designed to leak code for the X-KeyScore program from the National Security Agency,
[01:27.840 --> 01:32.600]  users of Privacy Tool Tour or the Tails operating system are labeled as extremists and have
[01:32.600 --> 01:34.880]  their IP addresses logged.
[01:34.880 --> 01:38.640]  German researchers and journalists have found that merely searching for or visiting the
[01:38.640 --> 01:40.680]  torn site will get you noticed.
[01:40.680 --> 01:45.760]  X-KeyScore is designed to track internet use as well as examine emails looking for information.
[01:45.760 --> 01:51.080]  A part of the source code refers to tails as a tool used by extremists on extremist forums.
[01:51.080 --> 01:56.600]  The code for X-KeyScore is said to avoid users in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK
[01:56.600 --> 02:03.360]  and the US, the so-called Five Eyes Buying Nations.
[02:03.360 --> 02:08.200]  The website CryptoMe has claimed to be releasing more documents reportedly leaked by Edward
[02:08.200 --> 02:09.200]  Snowden.
[02:09.200 --> 02:14.600]  CryptoMe on Twitter claim that the documents will be published in the coming weeks.
[02:14.600 --> 02:20.400]  In an email exchange with Vocactive.com, John Young, the founder of CryptoMe, hints that
[02:20.400 --> 02:24.960]  they may be released before the beginning of the upcoming hacker and whistleblower conference
[02:24.960 --> 02:29.840]  Hope X, Edward Snowden is supposed to speak at that conference.
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[02:49.280 --> 02:53.520]  This is the Liberty Beat for Monday, July 7th, 2014.
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[03:19.920 --> 03:33.240]  Thanks a lot.
[03:49.920 --> 03:52.620]  All those trees round up all of them
[03:52.620 --> 03:55.120]  Let the boys hang up higher streets
[03:57.120 --> 03:59.120]  For all the people to see
[04:01.620 --> 04:05.120]  That's just a simple thing you should always find
[04:05.120 --> 04:07.120]  You gotta saddle up your boys
[04:07.120 --> 04:09.120]  You gotta throw a hard line
[04:09.120 --> 04:11.120]  Well, the guns won't settle
[04:11.120 --> 04:13.120]  We'll set a victory tune
[04:13.120 --> 04:15.120]  And we'll all be fine
[04:15.120 --> 04:17.120]  I just will hope for some hope
[04:17.120 --> 04:19.120]  We'll raise up our glasses
[04:19.120 --> 04:22.120]  Against evil forces singing
[04:22.120 --> 04:24.120]  Let's get for my men
[04:24.120 --> 04:27.120]  Before my horses
[04:34.120 --> 04:36.120]  Alright folks, good evening
[04:36.120 --> 04:38.120]  This is the Monday Night Rule of Law radio show
[04:38.120 --> 04:40.120]  And I am your host, Eddie Craig
[04:40.120 --> 04:45.120]  It is July 14th, 2014
[04:45.120 --> 04:48.120]  And I've been doing a lot of reading
[04:48.120 --> 04:51.120]  And rewriting of things for friends
[04:51.120 --> 04:53.120]  And other folks this week
[04:53.120 --> 04:56.120]  On cases they're working on and so on and so forth
[04:56.120 --> 04:58.120]  But I've also been doing some reading research
[04:58.120 --> 05:00.120]  And there is a site out there
[05:00.120 --> 05:02.120]  That I keep an eye on from time to time
[05:02.120 --> 05:04.120]  Just so I can see and be reminded
[05:04.120 --> 05:07.120]  Of what a status simpleton actually sounds like
[05:07.120 --> 05:11.120]  There's a website out there called Quatloose
[05:11.120 --> 05:14.120]  And what they love to do
[05:14.120 --> 05:19.120]  Is to deride and disparage people
[05:19.120 --> 05:22.120]  In the patriot movement
[05:22.120 --> 05:25.120]  That are trying to bring information to the masses
[05:25.120 --> 05:28.120]  And expose the lies about what the state is doing
[05:28.120 --> 05:30.120]  And so on and so forth
[05:30.120 --> 05:33.120]  And you'll never read a more
[05:33.120 --> 05:38.120]  Status-bent sheeple thought process
[05:38.120 --> 05:41.120]  Than the one displayed by the people on this site
[05:41.120 --> 05:44.120]  They actually have several people up there
[05:44.120 --> 05:47.120]  By the name of which I am also one
[05:47.120 --> 05:49.120]  And it's really interesting to see
[05:49.120 --> 05:51.120]  The kind of stuff that they put up there
[05:51.120 --> 05:53.120]  You can tell by what they're saying
[05:53.120 --> 05:56.120]  In their comments that they've actually never bothered
[05:56.120 --> 05:59.120]  To do any real research on either the person
[05:59.120 --> 06:03.120]  They're trying to talk down about
[06:03.120 --> 06:06.120]  Or the information that person
[06:06.120 --> 06:08.120]  Is actually trying to put forth
[06:08.120 --> 06:11.120]  They don't do any real informational research
[06:11.120 --> 06:14.120]  They just take the word as it exists from government
[06:14.120 --> 06:17.120]  And play that against everything that is being said
[06:17.120 --> 06:19.120]  Or done by the individual they're harassing
[06:19.120 --> 06:21.120]  With their comments
[06:21.120 --> 06:24.120]  Now, I don't put any stock in anything they got to say
[06:24.120 --> 06:27.120]  Because anybody that's hell-bent on
[06:27.120 --> 06:30.120]  Remaining ignorant and asleep
[06:30.120 --> 06:32.120]  And taking advantage of more power to them
[06:32.120 --> 06:33.120]  That's their choice
[06:33.120 --> 06:36.120]  So what they've got to say doesn't really bother me
[06:36.120 --> 06:38.120]  One way or the other
[06:38.120 --> 06:40.120]  But it was just interesting to note
[06:40.120 --> 06:44.120]  How little they actually understand anything
[06:44.120 --> 06:47.120]  About the people or what they're talking about
[06:47.120 --> 06:50.120]  For instance, one of them on there was talking about
[06:50.120 --> 06:54.120]  I got my start in the sovereign citizen movement
[06:54.120 --> 06:58.120]  Now, those of you that have listened to my show
[06:58.120 --> 07:00.120]  Know very, very well
[07:00.120 --> 07:04.120]  That I absolutely
[07:04.120 --> 07:07.120]  Put no stock in the sovereign citizen movement
[07:07.120 --> 07:10.120]  I've told you personally on the air
[07:10.120 --> 07:12.120]  And to your face if I've met you
[07:12.120 --> 07:14.120]  And we were discussing the topic
[07:14.120 --> 07:17.120]  That I, no one living on planet earth
[07:17.120 --> 07:19.120]  Is a sovereign anything
[07:19.120 --> 07:21.120]  Nobody
[07:21.120 --> 07:23.120]  The very definition of sovereign
[07:23.120 --> 07:25.120]  Is one that has the power to make
[07:25.120 --> 07:29.120]  And bind others to his law
[07:29.120 --> 07:31.120]  I don't have that power
[07:31.120 --> 07:32.120]  You don't have that power
[07:32.120 --> 07:34.120]  Even our legislature doesn't have that power
[07:34.120 --> 07:37.120]  And 99% of the things they do
[07:37.120 --> 07:40.120]  They simply use force of arms
[07:40.120 --> 07:42.120]  Through the police agencies
[07:42.120 --> 07:44.120]  To have their way with what they want
[07:44.120 --> 07:47.120]  But it's not a legitimate exercise of power
[07:47.120 --> 07:50.120]  It's not a republican form of exercise
[07:50.120 --> 07:51.120]  That's for sure
[07:51.120 --> 07:53.120]  It's an authoritarian exercise
[07:53.120 --> 07:55.120]  That's for certain
[07:55.120 --> 07:57.120]  Okay
[07:57.120 --> 07:59.120]  But just to listen to their comments
[07:59.120 --> 08:02.120]  They say if you ever listen to a show
[08:02.120 --> 08:03.120]  He talks about blah, blah
[08:03.120 --> 08:05.120]  And I hate to see
[08:05.120 --> 08:07.120]  Ex-law enforcement get into this
[08:07.120 --> 08:09.120]  Sovereign citizen stuff and all this
[08:09.120 --> 08:12.120]  And yet just their comments alone prove
[08:12.120 --> 08:14.120]  They know absolutely nothing about
[08:14.120 --> 08:16.120]  What they're commenting about
[08:16.120 --> 08:17.120]  Because like I say
[08:17.120 --> 08:20.120]  I've spoken against the idea
[08:20.120 --> 08:22.120]  Of sovereign citizen the way
[08:22.120 --> 08:23.120]  Especially the way the government's trying
[08:23.120 --> 08:25.120]  To put it out there
[08:25.120 --> 08:27.120]  It's not that I don't believe that
[08:27.120 --> 08:29.120]  We have personal sovereignty
[08:29.120 --> 08:30.120]  I do
[08:30.120 --> 08:33.120]  But that is personal sovereignty
[08:33.120 --> 08:36.120]  It is not a sovereign
[08:36.120 --> 08:38.120]  It's not the same thing
[08:38.120 --> 08:40.120]  I am keying over me
[08:40.120 --> 08:42.120]  And me alone
[08:42.120 --> 08:44.120]  But I am not a sovereign
[08:44.120 --> 08:46.120]  That has power over anyone else
[08:46.120 --> 08:48.120]  Except for those in my family
[08:48.120 --> 08:50.120]  That are my children
[08:50.120 --> 08:52.120]  Or if she's willing to abide by it
[08:52.120 --> 08:55.120]  My spouse
[08:55.120 --> 08:57.120]  Okay, that's it
[08:57.120 --> 08:59.120]  I don't even pretend to have the authority
[08:59.120 --> 09:01.120]  To tell anybody else on the planet
[09:01.120 --> 09:02.120]  What they can and cannot do
[09:02.120 --> 09:04.120]  Unlike most of these people
[09:04.120 --> 09:06.120]  That are making this commentary
[09:06.120 --> 09:08.120]  On this website
[09:08.120 --> 09:10.120]  And those like it
[09:10.120 --> 09:12.120]  They want to speak out against
[09:12.120 --> 09:14.120]  What the message that we're putting out there
[09:14.120 --> 09:17.120]  But none of them have any actual
[09:17.120 --> 09:21.120]  Rebuttal based upon anything
[09:21.120 --> 09:23.120]  Other than the same information
[09:23.120 --> 09:25.120]  That we're using to disprove
[09:25.120 --> 09:27.120]  What's being done in the first place
[09:27.120 --> 09:29.120]  For instance, a lot of the commentary
[09:29.120 --> 09:31.120]  They make relates to people
[09:31.120 --> 09:36.120]  In the income tax fight basically
[09:36.120 --> 09:38.120]  The ones that are talking about
[09:38.120 --> 09:40.120]  There is no liability for the tax
[09:40.120 --> 09:41.120]  On the American people
[09:41.120 --> 09:42.120]  The law does not require it
[09:42.120 --> 09:44.120]  And it never has and it can't and all that
[09:44.120 --> 09:46.120]  And they're absolutely right
[09:46.120 --> 09:49.120]  They're absolutely right
[09:49.120 --> 09:51.120]  And the only authority that these
[09:51.120 --> 09:54.120]  So-called experts on quote lose
[09:54.120 --> 09:57.120]  Can come up with is the same authority
[09:57.120 --> 09:59.120]  That we're using to prove
[09:59.120 --> 10:02.120]  That's not the way it was done
[10:02.120 --> 10:04.120]  They're trying to say the courts have ruled
[10:04.120 --> 10:06.120]  The courts have never ruled the way
[10:06.120 --> 10:07.120]  These guys are saying
[10:07.120 --> 10:09.120]  The only court that's ever done that
[10:09.120 --> 10:12.120]  Is the tax court and it's not an official court
[10:12.120 --> 10:14.120]  It's an administrative court
[10:14.120 --> 10:17.120]  Just like a municipal court is
[10:17.120 --> 10:19.120]  It's not a real court
[10:19.120 --> 10:22.120]  It's most certainly not a judicial court
[10:22.120 --> 10:24.120]  Those are not judges
[10:24.120 --> 10:27.120]  Sitting in front of you in a tax court
[10:27.120 --> 10:30.120]  Those are IRS agents
[10:30.120 --> 10:33.120]  And they're never going to say you're right
[10:33.120 --> 10:35.120]  Because if they do
[10:35.120 --> 10:38.120]  Not only do they lose their job
[10:38.120 --> 10:40.120]  But they open up the entire IRS
[10:40.120 --> 10:42.120]  To actions from every American
[10:42.120 --> 10:44.120]  That's ever paid a penny into the system
[10:44.120 --> 10:47.120]  Under the fraudulent claims made
[10:47.120 --> 10:50.120]  By the agency
[10:50.120 --> 10:52.120]  They can't afford to expose
[10:52.120 --> 10:54.120]  The light that actually shines for truth
[10:54.120 --> 10:57.120]  In what they can and cannot do
[10:57.120 --> 10:59.120]  So folks, when you're going around
[10:59.120 --> 11:02.120]  And you're reading and especially this is true
[11:02.120 --> 11:04.120]  For first-time listeners and people
[11:04.120 --> 11:05.120]  That are new to the movement
[11:05.120 --> 11:07.120]  And are trying to decide what's wheat
[11:07.120 --> 11:10.120]  And what's chaff
[11:10.120 --> 11:14.120]  Everything out there has value
[11:14.120 --> 11:18.120]  It's either to prove what doesn't work
[11:18.120 --> 11:21.120]  Or it's to prove what does
[11:21.120 --> 11:24.120]  Because it's based upon truth
[11:24.120 --> 11:26.120]  But you're also going to find
[11:26.120 --> 11:28.120]  That there are those times and places
[11:28.120 --> 11:30.120]  And information that is out there
[11:30.120 --> 11:32.120]  That is put in place specifically
[11:32.120 --> 11:34.120]  To try to stem the tide
[11:34.120 --> 11:37.120]  Of one over the other
[11:37.120 --> 11:39.120]  The system has survived and gotten
[11:39.120 --> 11:41.120]  To the point it has because
[11:41.120 --> 11:44.120]  Of its disinformation structure
[11:44.120 --> 11:47.120]  Because of its indoctrination program
[11:47.120 --> 11:51.120]  Because of its mental programming
[11:51.120 --> 11:55.120]  Of individuals through the school systems
[11:55.120 --> 11:59.120]  Through the media and so on and so forth
[11:59.120 --> 12:01.120]  I mean, look at the stories that the media
[12:01.120 --> 12:03.120]  Puts out there regarding income taxes
[12:03.120 --> 12:06.120]  Again, for instance, you only see
[12:06.120 --> 12:08.120]  The stories involving two things
[12:08.120 --> 12:11.120]  When it relates to income tax
[12:11.120 --> 12:15.120]  Cases where the IRS wins
[12:15.120 --> 12:18.120]  And the individual has claimed to be exempt
[12:18.120 --> 12:21.120]  They do that for the publicity of the win
[12:21.120 --> 12:23.120]  And those instances where someone
[12:23.120 --> 12:27.120]  Is acted to cause direct violent actions
[12:27.120 --> 12:29.120]  Against the Internal Revenue Service
[12:29.120 --> 12:33.120]  Or in relation to the Internal Revenue Service
[12:33.120 --> 12:36.120]  Against some governmental agency
[12:36.120 --> 12:38.120]  Or building or piece of property
[12:38.120 --> 12:40.120]  Or group of employees
[12:40.120 --> 12:42.120]  Those are the only two times
[12:42.120 --> 12:44.120]  The media will put up a story
[12:44.120 --> 12:47.120]  About income taxes
[12:47.120 --> 12:49.120]  They will never put up the stories
[12:49.120 --> 12:53.120]  Where the IRS loses the battle
[12:53.120 --> 12:56.120]  And they've lost many
[12:56.120 --> 12:58.120]  From the very beginning of the income tax
[12:58.120 --> 13:02.120]  Until modern day, they have lost many
[13:02.120 --> 13:05.120]  But they keep those stories buried
[13:05.120 --> 13:09.120]  And they never allow them to become precedent
[13:09.120 --> 13:11.120]  They always rule that they're supposed
[13:11.120 --> 13:13.120]  To be unpublished opinion
[13:13.120 --> 13:15.120]  Because most courts will not allow you
[13:15.120 --> 13:18.120]  To reference unpublished opinions
[13:18.120 --> 13:21.120]  As judicial facts
[13:21.120 --> 13:25.120]  So everything about the system is set
[13:25.120 --> 13:27.120]  To keep what it really does
[13:27.120 --> 13:31.120]  And how it does it hidden from public view
[13:31.120 --> 13:33.120]  It keeps the information's smoke screen
[13:33.120 --> 13:35.120]  Alive through its disinformation
[13:35.120 --> 13:39.120]  It's orientation and programming
[13:39.120 --> 13:41.120]  Of the thought process about government
[13:41.120 --> 13:43.120]  Can do all these things
[13:43.120 --> 13:45.120]  And we have to accept it type of deal
[13:45.120 --> 13:48.120]  That's just the way it is
[13:48.120 --> 13:50.120]  In most Americans' minds
[13:50.120 --> 13:52.120]  We can't do anything
[13:52.120 --> 13:53.120]  It's always been this way
[13:53.120 --> 13:54.120]  It's going to always be this way
[13:54.120 --> 13:56.120]  It's just the way things are done
[13:56.120 --> 13:58.120]  Pick your poison as to why
[13:58.120 --> 14:00.120]  It should be allowed to remain in place
[14:00.120 --> 14:02.120]  And I'm sure that you know somebody
[14:02.120 --> 14:04.120]  That is using it as an excuse
[14:04.120 --> 14:08.120]  To remain ignorant and doing nothing
[14:08.120 --> 14:10.120]  And that is pretty much the way
[14:10.120 --> 14:12.120]  I see these people making these commentaries
[14:12.120 --> 14:13.120]  On these websites
[14:13.120 --> 14:16.120]  They choose to remain ignorant
[14:16.120 --> 14:19.120]  They refuse to ask any intelligent questions
[14:19.120 --> 14:23.120]  About how, what, when, why, who, where
[14:23.120 --> 14:25.120]  They refuse
[14:25.120 --> 14:27.120]  And any time that you mess with their paradigm
[14:27.120 --> 14:29.120]  Thought process about what's legitimate
[14:29.120 --> 14:32.120]  And what's not, you get attacked
[14:32.120 --> 14:34.120]  And that's okay
[14:34.120 --> 14:36.120]  If you want to gauge how well you're doing
[14:36.120 --> 14:37.120]  In the Patriot Movement
[14:37.120 --> 14:39.120]  At putting out information
[14:39.120 --> 14:41.120]  See how many of these sites
[14:41.120 --> 14:44.120]  You are the topic of discussion on
[14:44.120 --> 14:46.120]  The more of them you're on
[14:46.120 --> 14:48.120]  The more of them you're being derided on
[14:48.120 --> 14:51.120]  And chastised for being able to think
[14:51.120 --> 14:53.120]  Outside the box
[14:53.120 --> 14:56.120]  The more your message is getting out there
[14:56.120 --> 14:59.120]  So they've got to do something to stem that tide
[14:59.120 --> 15:03.120]  Now, one of the other things that they pointed out
[15:03.120 --> 15:06.120]  In their commentary is that
[15:06.120 --> 15:08.120]  Someone made the comment
[15:08.120 --> 15:11.120]  I doubt if he will ever reach guru status
[15:11.120 --> 15:15.120]  Like some of the others in this so-called movement
[15:15.120 --> 15:19.120]  Folks, if again, if you've been listening to this show
[15:19.120 --> 15:21.120]  You know for a fact
[15:21.120 --> 15:24.120]  The last thing I want is to be a guru to anybody
[15:24.120 --> 15:27.120]  I would much rather everybody
[15:27.120 --> 15:30.120]  Took an interest in their own welfare
[15:30.120 --> 15:33.120]  And the information that I've given you
[15:33.120 --> 15:35.120]  And run with it on your own
[15:35.120 --> 15:37.120]  Verify it, check it out
[15:37.120 --> 15:39.120]  Put your own thoughts into it
[15:39.120 --> 15:42.120]  Learn how this stuff works
[15:42.120 --> 15:44.120]  Learn what is actually right
[15:44.120 --> 15:46.120]  And what is actually wrong
[15:46.120 --> 15:48.120]  Do not, under any circumstances
[15:48.120 --> 15:54.120]  Take my word for anything
[15:54.120 --> 15:56.120]  I can't count the number of times
[15:56.120 --> 15:58.120]  I've tried to put that message out there
[15:58.120 --> 16:00.120]  I don't want to be your guru
[16:00.120 --> 16:03.120]  That just makes me a target
[16:03.120 --> 16:05.120]  As long as I'm the only stream
[16:05.120 --> 16:07.120]  That's flowing out there with this information
[16:07.120 --> 16:10.120]  That makes me very easy to dam up
[16:10.120 --> 16:12.120]  And cut off the water flow
[16:12.120 --> 16:16.120]  But the more of you that are attacking that
[16:16.120 --> 16:19.120]  On your own and figuring this out for yourselves
[16:19.120 --> 16:22.120]  And spreading the message to others
[16:22.120 --> 16:26.120]  Great, that's a lot less work for me
[16:26.120 --> 16:28.120]  And it's most certainly
[16:28.120 --> 16:31.120]  Makes me less of a threat to them
[16:31.120 --> 16:33.120]  And I'm all for that
[16:33.120 --> 16:35.120]  Because I want us all to see this through to the end
[16:35.120 --> 16:37.120]  And be successful
[16:37.120 --> 16:39.120]  I'm not afraid of getting hit off
[16:39.120 --> 16:41.120]  If that's what's got to happen
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[19:38.560 --> 19:40.120]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[19:40.120 --> 19:41.680]  I'm your host, Eddie Craig.
[19:41.680 --> 19:50.240]  Calling number is 512-646-1984, gives a call, lines are open right now, and they are empty.
[19:50.240 --> 19:54.840]  So I'm wanting to keep rambling until somebody gets on the air with me and starts to talk.
[19:54.840 --> 20:00.840]  But in the meantime, in this discussion of these statist individuals that don't wish
[20:00.840 --> 20:05.480]  to go beyond their own ignorance to find out what's actually going on in the world, we
[20:05.480 --> 20:12.440]  have to get more people looking at things from a different angle.
[20:12.440 --> 20:14.160]  We don't have enough of those.
[20:14.160 --> 20:17.200]  Too many people are too comfortable.
[20:17.200 --> 20:22.040]  Too many people are too apathetic and want to stay that way.
[20:22.040 --> 20:30.280]  So what do we do to get them out of that lethargy that they want to keep themselves in so that
[20:30.280 --> 20:38.160]  they can actually become productive as far as getting other people to ask questions?
[20:38.160 --> 20:49.440]  Used to America was a very successful nation because of its willingness to question everything.
[20:49.440 --> 20:55.360]  People were innovative and inventive because they were willing to question and challenge
[20:55.360 --> 20:58.000]  anything.
[20:58.000 --> 21:05.360]  I mean, go back to the Battle of Athens here in the States, where one small town, a group
[21:05.360 --> 21:13.640]  of veterans, had to take up arms and have an actual shootout with the local authorities,
[21:13.640 --> 21:20.880]  the Sheriff's Department and its officers and all of the elected officials of the town
[21:20.880 --> 21:27.760]  because they were corruptly stealing the elections and stealing from the people of this town
[21:27.760 --> 21:29.560]  for decades.
[21:29.560 --> 21:35.160]  And a bunch of veterans that came home from the war, saw what was going on, decided to
[21:35.160 --> 21:42.480]  take a stand against it, all of them ran for public offices, and as soon as the story got
[21:42.480 --> 21:48.920]  out that they were going to win and replace the corrupt system as it existed, the system
[21:48.920 --> 21:54.680]  came down with guns and bullets and took the voting boxes, took them to the jailhouse and
[21:54.680 --> 21:58.640]  started trying to rig the vote before they let it out to the public.
[21:58.640 --> 22:05.280]  Well, the veterans got their guns, marched on the jailhouse and took it over, captured
[22:05.280 --> 22:12.880]  all the guys on the Sheriff's Department, Police Department, and the town officials
[22:12.880 --> 22:15.520]  and turned them over to the feds.
[22:15.520 --> 22:20.120]  So it can be done because it has been done.
[22:20.120 --> 22:23.000]  Is that the way we want to have to do it?
[22:23.000 --> 22:25.040]  Absolutely not.
[22:25.040 --> 22:32.040]  But before you listen to a government official say that it's a violation of the law to use
[22:32.040 --> 22:39.680]  force to overthrow your government, you need to understand that King George said the same
[22:39.680 --> 22:41.400]  thing.
[22:41.400 --> 22:47.680]  So did his redcoats, so did his tax collectors.
[22:47.680 --> 22:54.400]  Every one of them said the same thing.
[22:54.400 --> 23:06.680]  As long as the government gets to decide when its power is excessive, it will never be excessive.
[23:06.680 --> 23:14.840]  As long as the people are willing to live with a boot on their neck, it will never be
[23:14.840 --> 23:19.160]  excessive.
[23:19.160 --> 23:24.480]  If they're willing to suffer while that boot crushes down rather than resist and throw it
[23:24.480 --> 23:30.480]  off, then it will never be excessive.
[23:30.480 --> 23:34.440]  And just like in Athens, if you think you're going to take this over with a ballot box
[23:34.440 --> 23:41.960]  when you don't have any control over the ballot box, you better think again.
[23:41.960 --> 23:47.560]  Voting is not going to get you anywhere as long as they control how the voting happens,
[23:47.560 --> 23:53.360]  where the voting happens, and who counts the votes when it's over.
[23:53.360 --> 24:01.560]  I believe there was another famous governmental politician who was the power to be seen in
[24:01.560 --> 24:09.600]  public who made the statement, he who cast the vote decides nothing, he who counts the
[24:09.600 --> 24:14.560]  vote decides everything, okay?
[24:14.560 --> 24:17.800]  That was Stalin, folks.
[24:17.800 --> 24:24.800]  So if you think America hasn't gone the way of communist Russia when it comes to the
[24:24.800 --> 24:31.960]  vote or the city of Athens and its corruptness when it comes to the vote, think again.
[24:31.960 --> 24:37.680]  This has happened time and time again in every election we've had at every level for Lord
[24:37.680 --> 24:39.800]  knows how long now.
[24:39.800 --> 24:43.200]  We've seen it every time Ron Paul has run for president.
[24:43.200 --> 24:47.720]  There's been voter fraud, Obama runs for president, there was voter fraud, Bush runs
[24:47.720 --> 24:51.680]  for president, there was voter fraud, and I don't know how far back it goes and I'm
[24:51.680 --> 24:54.680]  not going to pretend to know how far back it goes.
[24:54.680 --> 24:59.080]  But if we actually went and took up all the records and verified them, the ones that actually
[24:59.080 --> 25:04.880]  may still even survive, we would find out real quick that what's real and what we're
[25:04.880 --> 25:08.760]  told don't match.
[25:08.760 --> 25:16.440]  So how long and how much are we willing to live with before we decide the government
[25:16.440 --> 25:20.840]  no longer gets to decide?
[25:20.840 --> 25:26.680]  If all political power is inherent in the people and we the people have the right to
[25:26.680 --> 25:31.600]  abolish or overthrow our government by any means we deem necessary when that government
[25:31.600 --> 25:38.680]  no longer serves the will and purpose of the people, then how can government claim to be
[25:38.680 --> 25:43.440]  able to make a law that says we can't do it?
[25:43.440 --> 25:49.840]  How does government claim to make a law that says we do not have the right to wear our
[25:49.840 --> 25:56.760]  arms with us and carry them with us every single day so that we are able to resist any
[25:56.760 --> 26:03.800]  abuse of power by our government officials regardless of who they are?
[26:03.800 --> 26:09.160]  Because folks, there's another famous quote to be paid attention to here and this one
[26:09.160 --> 26:18.640]  was by Ben Franklin, surely we shall stand together or surely we shall hang separately.
[26:18.640 --> 26:24.480]  Okay, so which one do you want to do?
[26:24.480 --> 26:29.200]  I'm not asking anybody to do anything I'm not willing to do for myself.
[26:29.200 --> 26:30.680]  I'm here, I'm making an effort.
[26:30.680 --> 26:36.160]  I'm trying to get information out to you and I will resist any attempt to inflict physical
[26:36.160 --> 26:41.800]  injury upon me and those I care about when there is absolutely no justification for it.
[26:41.800 --> 26:48.640]  Okay, there it and there never is, there really never is, but the fact of the matter is until
[26:48.640 --> 26:54.400]  we're willing to stand up for each other then it will be impossible to even stand up for
[26:54.400 --> 27:01.840]  ourselves because it's only by numbers we're going to make a change here.
[27:01.840 --> 27:12.960]  No one man can do it, no one man is responsible for taking the risk to do it.
[27:12.960 --> 27:20.280]  But every man has the responsibility to try to unite together with those that are willing
[27:20.280 --> 27:25.840]  to do what's necessary to do what's right and to regain control of that which is rightfully
[27:25.840 --> 27:29.680]  his.
[27:29.680 --> 27:36.800]  That's us and we need to start living by that thought at every turn we need to start living
[27:36.800 --> 27:44.120]  by that because we have sat aside on the sidelines for far too long letting our public servants
[27:44.120 --> 27:47.880]  get away with literally murder.
[27:47.880 --> 27:53.160]  Doesn't matter whether it's the police doing it, doesn't matter whether it's the military
[27:53.160 --> 27:57.800]  doing it because they're told a bunch of lies like the rest of us are about why they go
[27:57.800 --> 28:00.240]  to war and why they fight.
[28:00.240 --> 28:03.120]  Just like us they're made to believe they're there to make a difference.
[28:03.120 --> 28:08.960]  Well, the problem is the difference they're told about and the one they're actually creating
[28:08.960 --> 28:11.280]  aren't the same thing.
[28:11.280 --> 28:15.280]  They're making a difference alright, but it's the economic well-being of those that
[28:15.280 --> 28:19.120]  sent them there, it's not the freedom of the American people.
[28:19.120 --> 28:26.480]  If anything they're eroding that at a rapid rate because by going to these foreign countries
[28:26.480 --> 28:31.880]  and waging these foreign wars uninvited without any purpose other than nation building and
[28:31.880 --> 28:36.500]  resource stealing and everything else, we're the invaders.
[28:36.500 --> 28:39.200]  They have every right to resist us.
[28:39.200 --> 28:41.920]  They have every right to put up a fight.
[28:41.920 --> 28:46.520]  Things like you would have if someone broke into your house, tried to take your property
[28:46.520 --> 28:52.120]  or invaded your county or city or state and tried to take it over by force.
[28:52.120 --> 29:01.880]  You would have every single right in the world to forcibly resist by any means necessary.
[29:01.880 --> 29:07.120]  Including guerrilla warfare which the government has decided to label as terrorism.
[29:07.120 --> 29:11.960]  And it's the very thing that the CIA has gone to every nation on earth when we're trying
[29:11.960 --> 29:16.880]  to make regime change and taught them to wage war with.
[29:16.880 --> 29:19.680]  Guerrilla tactics.
[29:19.680 --> 29:23.120]  That's your terrorist folks, we're creating them.
[29:23.120 --> 29:26.320]  Then we're paying them, we're supplying them and we're sending them here and everywhere
[29:26.320 --> 29:33.360]  else or driving them here and everywhere else in an effort to get us out of what their business
[29:33.360 --> 29:37.000]  rightfully is.
[29:37.000 --> 29:40.520]  And if you put yourself in their place, if it was your home and your country that this
[29:40.520 --> 29:45.600]  was happening to, you might come to understand who's being manipulated and how.
[29:45.600 --> 29:49.600]  It's time to wake up people, you've been asleep too long.
[29:49.600 --> 29:54.240]  Kick your neighbor, shake him, say something, do something, get involved.
[29:54.240 --> 29:58.200]  Alright callers, I see you on the board, y'all hang on, I'll start taking calls when we
[29:58.200 --> 29:59.200]  get back.
[29:59.200 --> 30:04.200]  The Bill of Rights contains the first ten amendments of our Constitution.
[30:04.200 --> 30:09.200]  They guarantee the specific freedoms Americans should know and protect, our liberty depends
[30:09.200 --> 30:10.200]  on it.
[30:10.200 --> 30:13.640]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be right back with an unforgettable way to remember
[30:13.640 --> 30:43.600]  one of your constitutional rights.
[30:43.600 --> 30:51.600]  Remember the scene in George Orwell's novel 1984 when Winston is threatened with his worst
[30:51.600 --> 30:52.600]  fear?
[30:52.600 --> 30:57.080]  That fear was having a cage of hungry rats unleashed on his face, but with his worst
[30:57.080 --> 31:00.080]  fear was spiders, eight-legged spiders to be exact.
[31:00.080 --> 31:03.880]  Getting a face full of spiders would be pretty cruel and unusual.
[31:03.880 --> 31:07.600]  That image of eight-legged spiders will help you remember the Eighth Amendment.
[31:07.600 --> 31:11.920]  Our founding fathers added the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to protect us from
[31:11.920 --> 31:16.560]  creepy, crawly, eight-legged punishments and other cruel and unusual prison practices that
[31:16.560 --> 31:18.160]  were common in their day.
[31:18.160 --> 31:22.480]  The Eighth Amendment also prohibits the government from requiring excessive bail and charging
[31:22.480 --> 31:23.480]  excessive fines.
[31:23.480 --> 31:53.440]  I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com.
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[39:42.200 --> 39:53.160]  They do have different definitions, but like I said, one is usually a punishment resulting in death, and the other is any lesser punishment than death.
[39:53.160 --> 39:58.200]  Well, how do I draw commonality to them? Is that through case law?
[39:58.200 --> 40:08.200]  Yeah, the case law says they're the same thing. They just have a lesser punishment form associated with them, hence the difference in the naming.
[40:08.200 --> 40:12.200]  Okay, for Texas specifically, do you have a...
[40:12.200 --> 40:18.200]  No, this is federal case law. This is case law that affects everybody, including every state.
[40:18.200 --> 40:20.200]  You got a case name?
[40:20.200 --> 40:32.200]  No, I don't, but it shouldn't be hard to find. I mean, all you got to do is go to Google Scholar and do a search for Bill of Pains and penalties. You should hit case law by the thousands.
[40:32.200 --> 40:44.200]  Yeah, I'm a Google Scholar and I've also, like I already said, I guess my scope was too narrow when I was just looking at Texas Constitutional Code, so I really appreciate that you point me to case law as opposed to...
[40:44.200 --> 40:52.200]  But I can swear, you said it was because of the Constitution that it was outlawed, but I guess you're saying that the Bill of Attainer somehow was assigned to the...
[40:52.200 --> 41:01.200]  The Bill of Attainer has been outlawed by every Constitution, and like I said, a Bill of Pains and Penalties is the same thing.
[41:01.200 --> 41:07.200]  It's just a lesser form of punishment, so they gave it a different name.
[41:07.200 --> 41:23.200]  Just like they gave a first-degree felony a different name than a second-degree felony, they're both still in prisonable offenses, just it changes by what degree the punishment is.
[41:23.200 --> 41:41.200]  Okay, so I could potentially tie the Bill of Attainer, you know, Bill of Right in the Constitution, it's being forbade, and then, you know, somehow equate that to Bill of Pains and Penalties and case law that they equate, and then perhaps...
[41:41.200 --> 41:51.200]  Well, like any case law you find, if you do case law on Bill of Attainer, you will eventually find the cases that say that they are the same thing.
[41:51.200 --> 41:57.200]  Okay, you know the difference between a capital offense and any other felony offense?
[41:57.200 --> 41:59.200]  No, you better run it down for me.
[41:59.200 --> 42:05.200]  A capital offense is one where the punishment results in death.
[42:05.200 --> 42:08.200]  Okay, that's your Bill of Attainer.
[42:08.200 --> 42:16.200]  Every other felony is punishable by some form of imprisonment, and fine, that's your Bill of Pains and Penalties.
[42:16.200 --> 42:21.200]  They're both still punishments.
[42:21.200 --> 42:28.200]  Okay, now I'm not saying that felonies are Bill of Pains and Penalties, I'm just using these to draw a mental picture of how they relate.
[42:28.200 --> 42:31.200]  That's all folks, don't mix up what I'm saying here.
[42:31.200 --> 42:33.200]  Okay, Roger.
[42:33.200 --> 42:42.200]  Okay, so if you had to draw a mental picture, a capital offense would equate to a Bill of Attainer, a sentence of death.
[42:42.200 --> 42:51.200]  Whereas the Bill of Pains and Penalties is anything other than a sentence of death.
[42:51.200 --> 42:56.200]  But the reason they were outlawed was because they were administratively adjudged.
[42:56.200 --> 43:05.200]  You didn't get a jury, you didn't have to have any evidence against you, they just declared you guilty and took you out and killed you or punished you.
[43:05.200 --> 43:16.200]  That was why it was forbidden, that's why they require everything to be done by due process of law in America, because those became outlawed.
[43:16.200 --> 43:26.200]  And now they've brought them back under these citations and everything else because you don't go before a judicial body, you go before an administrative body.
[43:26.200 --> 43:31.200]  And that's exactly what a Bill of Pains and Penalties or a Bill of Attainer is.
[43:31.200 --> 43:40.200]  It's an administrative or legislative determination of guilt without judicial review.
[43:40.200 --> 43:46.200]  Okay Eddie, I'm going to keep that in mind and I'll definitely look up the case law on it.
[43:46.200 --> 43:49.200]  Okay, well good luck.
[43:49.200 --> 43:51.200]  I said good luck.
[43:51.200 --> 43:54.200]  Alright, thanks for calling in Max.
[43:54.200 --> 44:00.200]  Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, we'll be right back after this break.
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[46:19.200 --> 46:26.200]  Alright folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio's Monday night call-in show, and I am your host Eddie Craig.
[46:26.200 --> 46:31.200]  We are going to go to Billy Bob in New York. Billy Bob, what can we do for you?
[46:31.200 --> 46:35.200]  Hey Ed, I've got a couple questions for you.
[46:35.200 --> 46:43.200]  You were going over having to speak with people and trying to get in contact with people and your neighbors, reaching out to your neighbors,
[46:43.200 --> 46:50.200]  trying to find out, get a group together and try to form some kind of a group so you can hash these things out with people.
[46:50.200 --> 46:55.200]  What are your thoughts on talking to a neighbor and then not being receptive to that?
[46:55.200 --> 47:02.200]  Are there any groups that you know of that you could suggest that any way we can go and get this information?
[47:02.200 --> 47:08.200]  Well, in the various states at the moment, no. I don't have personal knowledge of lots of these different groups.
[47:08.200 --> 47:16.200]  I know here in Texas there are a few like the San Jacinto Constitutional Study Group and things like that,
[47:16.200 --> 47:20.200]  but I don't know where they are in all the other states.
[47:20.200 --> 47:26.200]  That's one of the reasons why I'm hoping when we get our website launched, the things that we're going to have on there,
[47:26.200 --> 47:35.200]  the tools will make creating and finding such groups far, far easier because it'll have a geographic location map on it
[47:35.200 --> 47:42.200]  and you'll be able to drill down into that and find any groups that are active in that area that are registered on our site
[47:42.200 --> 47:46.200]  or members of our site, so it'll make it a whole lot easier.
[47:46.200 --> 47:50.200]  But right now, no. I don't know of any particular groups anywhere.
[47:50.200 --> 47:56.200]  And the problem is, is I don't really have the time with everything else I'm working on to become a clearinghouse for them
[47:56.200 --> 48:02.200]  where I say, hey, everybody send me your contact information. Anybody wants to know about you, I'll let them know.
[48:02.200 --> 48:05.200]  I don't have the manpower to do that.
[48:05.200 --> 48:10.200]  So the website would be the simplest way, but we just haven't got it online yet.
[48:10.200 --> 48:18.200]  Now you're a man in the wilderness and you're really out there kind of on your own and trying to get this information collated
[48:18.200 --> 48:25.200]  with some people in your state who may be more aware of some of the things that you've been talking about over the last couple of years.
[48:25.200 --> 48:32.200]  Maybe they've gone to an actual next step that maybe some of the people who are just starting this don't know.
[48:32.200 --> 48:34.200]  But I understand if you don't know anyone, that's fine.
[48:34.200 --> 48:39.200]  Yeah, and I agree with you there may be, but the problem is I don't know about them either.
[48:39.200 --> 48:42.200]  Yeah, okay.
[48:42.200 --> 48:45.200]  The next question I have, I got a ticket.
[48:45.200 --> 48:47.200]  What kind of ticket?
[48:47.200 --> 48:49.200]  It was a speeding ticket.
[48:49.200 --> 48:50.200]  Okay.
[48:50.200 --> 48:56.200]  Now, in this particular court, they give you some time to answer the ticket.
[48:56.200 --> 49:00.200]  Now, I didn't choose to fight the ticket at the time.
[49:00.200 --> 49:03.200]  I know the script and I was not well versed in it.
[49:03.200 --> 49:06.200]  And unfortunately, he gave it to me.
[49:06.200 --> 49:07.200]  He gave me a ticket.
[49:07.200 --> 49:11.200]  And so now I'm at the point where I'm having to fight this administratively.
[49:11.200 --> 49:14.200]  So I'd like to ask you what would be my next step?
[49:14.200 --> 49:16.200]  I have not answered the ticket yet.
[49:16.200 --> 49:17.200]  Okay.
[49:17.200 --> 49:20.200]  You're in New York, but where in New York?
[49:20.200 --> 49:21.200]  Long Island.
[49:21.200 --> 49:22.200]  Okay.
[49:22.200 --> 49:25.200]  So you're actually inside the city?
[49:25.200 --> 49:26.200]  I'm outside.
[49:26.200 --> 49:27.200]  This is right outside the city.
[49:27.200 --> 49:28.200]  I'm in the suburb.
[49:28.200 --> 49:30.200]  Long Island in the city itself?
[49:30.200 --> 49:32.200]  Anyway, it doesn't matter.
[49:32.200 --> 49:34.200]  But the point I'm getting here is this.
[49:34.200 --> 49:46.200]  In New York law and statute, and remember they are different things, what type of court action is a traffic citation?
[49:46.200 --> 49:48.200]  Is it civil or is it criminal?
[49:48.200 --> 49:50.200]  I believe civil.
[49:50.200 --> 49:51.200]  Okay.
[49:51.200 --> 49:57.200]  And is it civil administrative or civil contract?
[49:57.200 --> 49:58.200]  I'm not sure.
[49:58.200 --> 50:01.200]  I'm going to guess and say it's a contract.
[50:01.200 --> 50:04.200]  I'm betting you it's civil administrative.
[50:04.200 --> 50:05.200]  Okay.
[50:05.200 --> 50:06.200]  All right.
[50:06.200 --> 50:12.200]  Now, and the reason for that is because you didn't sign any contract and they're still claiming to have authority over you, right?
[50:12.200 --> 50:13.200]  Correct, correct.
[50:13.200 --> 50:14.200]  Okay.
[50:14.200 --> 50:19.200]  So if it's civil contract, they would have to first be able to prove that part of it, wouldn't they?
[50:19.200 --> 50:21.200]  There was nothing to prove it.
[50:21.200 --> 50:22.200]  Exactly.
[50:22.200 --> 50:34.200]  So in New York statute or law, what type of offense directly is a citation related to?
[50:34.200 --> 50:39.200]  Is it an offense or is it an infraction?
[50:39.200 --> 50:45.200]  And if it is an offense, is the offense defined as civil or is it defined as criminal?
[50:45.200 --> 50:51.200]  If it is an infraction, is an infraction defined as civil or criminal?
[50:51.200 --> 50:52.200]  Okay.
[50:52.200 --> 50:59.200]  Because that's going to determine what authority they have to make contact with you in the first instance to issue the ticket.
[50:59.200 --> 51:00.200]  Okay.
[51:00.200 --> 51:08.200]  See, in California, the code has made it very clear that an infraction is not a crime.
[51:08.200 --> 51:14.200]  No officer anywhere has the authority to make an arrest without a warrant.
[51:14.200 --> 51:18.200]  He can't because civil means exactly that.
[51:18.200 --> 51:25.200]  There's no criminal action that would establish probable cause to make an arrest without a warrant.
[51:25.200 --> 51:26.200]  Right?
[51:26.200 --> 51:27.200]  Uh-huh.
[51:27.200 --> 51:39.200]  So if an infraction is not criminal even in New York, then the officer's seizure of you for the purpose of issuing the citation is an illegal seizure.
[51:39.200 --> 51:47.200]  It has to be because no probable cause existed to allow the arrest to be made without a warrant.
[51:47.200 --> 51:57.200]  Hence the reason it's so important to get the officer to answer you when you ask, am I under arrest or am I free to go?
[51:57.200 --> 52:04.200]  This is why I don't use the question, am I being detained?
[52:04.200 --> 52:08.200]  I specifically asked, am I under arrest?
[52:08.200 --> 52:11.200]  Am I free to go?
[52:11.200 --> 52:20.200]  I don't ever ask about being detained because the way I ask it, I cannot get the same answer to both questions and they'd be correct.
[52:20.200 --> 52:32.200]  If they tell me no that I'm not arrested but no I'm not free to go, then I'm going to presume I'm in a custodial arrest and all my rights kick in automatically.
[52:32.200 --> 52:38.200]  Okay, because the courts have ruled that it's what the person feels their liberty has been restricted to.
[52:38.200 --> 52:55.200]  Not what the officer says it is, but if a person feels like they are not able to exercise their liberty of their own volition to leave the scene, then they can presume themselves to be in a custodial arrest and to act accordingly.
[52:55.200 --> 53:00.200]  So my questions are geared to get me to that point.
[53:00.200 --> 53:14.200]  Now if the officer sees you without a crime and without a warrant, then you can say that the arrest to issue the citation was an illegal seizure or a false arrest or whatever it is in New York.
[53:14.200 --> 53:23.200]  But you can bring the stopping of your person or your car or whatever into question as to whether or not it was valid in the first instance.
[53:23.200 --> 53:36.200]  But to do that you have to know whether or not it's an offense, an infraction and whether it's defined specifically in the statute or the law as civil or not criminal.
[53:36.200 --> 53:37.200]  How would I determine that?
[53:37.200 --> 53:39.200]  Well you'd have to read the statute and see what it says.
[53:39.200 --> 53:45.200]  Somewhere there's got to be something that defines infraction if the term is infraction.
[53:45.200 --> 53:53.200]  So this requires that you understand the codes a little bit up there. What is related to the issuance of a citation?
[53:53.200 --> 53:57.200]  Is it a misdemeanor offense or is it an infraction?
[53:57.200 --> 54:01.200]  And then is it considered civil or criminal?
[54:01.200 --> 54:08.200]  It says plainly on the ticket if you're going over 30 miles an hour.
[54:08.200 --> 54:09.200]  Don't trust the ticket.
[54:09.200 --> 54:16.200]  Do not trust the ticket. Read the statutes and the underlying legislative enactment.
[54:16.200 --> 54:20.200]  Do not take what's on the ticket at face value.
[54:20.200 --> 54:22.200]  Okay.
[54:22.200 --> 54:35.200]  So being able to answer this ticket, how would I, what documentation or any kind of material I could use other than the statutes that I could answer this ticket?
[54:35.200 --> 54:43.200]  Well again, until you know the things I'm just talking about, you don't even know how you should be answering the ticket.
[54:43.200 --> 54:45.200]  Okay.
[54:45.200 --> 54:55.200]  Okay, that's like somebody asking you a question in Japanese and you don't speak it and you want to give them an answer without an interpreter.
[54:55.200 --> 54:57.200]  Okay.
[54:57.200 --> 55:11.200]  All right, next question I have is, I have a parking ticket and I answered it and I used your template and they just returned it to me with an appearance date.
[55:11.200 --> 55:16.200]  They just abjectly dismissed everything that I wrote down and they just sent me an appearance.
[55:16.200 --> 55:21.200]  Well again, how is a parking ticket defined? Is it an infraction?
[55:21.200 --> 55:25.200]  I'm sorry, Eddie. I'm sorry. It was a red light ticket. I'm sorry.
[55:25.200 --> 55:26.200]  Okay.
[55:26.200 --> 55:28.200]  Red light camera ticket.
[55:28.200 --> 55:34.200]  All right. Well again, when you make this so-called appearance, what kind of individual are you going to be appearing in front of?
[55:34.200 --> 55:44.200]  Is it going to be an actual judicial judge or is it going to be an administrative hearing officer or some sort of commissioner who, neither of which are actually judges?
[55:44.200 --> 55:51.200]  Which means this is an administrative proceeding which throws it right back into the Bill of Attainer category.
[55:51.200 --> 55:57.200]  Or I'm sorry, Bill of Panes and Penalties category.
[55:57.200 --> 55:59.200]  Okay.
[55:59.200 --> 56:08.200]  These are the kind of things you need to know. How are these handled? In almost every state, these camera tickets are entirely administrative.
[56:08.200 --> 56:17.200]  So by then just not even answering any of my questions, even the Freedom of Information Acts, and they just abjectly just didn't even answer anything.
[56:17.200 --> 56:25.200]  Is that to be expected? I mean, my friend is getting, it has trouble with the IRS and they have things on their website, they just completely ignore it.
[56:25.200 --> 56:28.200]  When he goes to answer them, they just make believe it's like it's not even there.
[56:28.200 --> 56:33.200]  Yeah. The IRS is just like every other government agency that knows it's acting outside of its lawful authority.
[56:33.200 --> 56:38.200]  It cannot afford to answer questions or its lack of authority becomes exposed.
[56:38.200 --> 56:39.200]  So-
[56:39.200 --> 56:44.200]  Is it to be expected that you answer them and they just don't even answer you back to just give you a date?
[56:44.200 --> 56:46.200]  Is that typically what you hear?
[56:46.200 --> 56:49.200]  That's generally what I hear that they try to do.
[56:49.200 --> 56:57.200]  But then when people go in there, they fail to determine where they are and who they're dealing with.
[56:57.200 --> 57:01.200]  They go in there acting like they're talking to a judge and they're not.
[57:01.200 --> 57:12.200]  And if you recall, one of the things that letter specifically says is you do not agree or consent to any non-judicial decision making.
[57:12.200 --> 57:22.200]  The first question you need to be asking when you go in there, are you a judge in the state of New York, an actual judicial officer?
[57:22.200 --> 57:25.200]  And if they ask you your name, what do you say?
[57:25.200 --> 57:36.200]  Anything you do. I am here by special appearance to challenge the jurisdiction of whatever the hell this is.
[57:36.200 --> 57:44.200]  Okay, and then you ask the question, are you a judge in an actual judicial officer in the state of New York?
[57:44.200 --> 57:54.200]  Or are you an administrative hearing officer, commissioner, or any other type of individual that isn't a judicial officer?
[57:54.200 --> 57:58.200]  And if they say something like, well, I'm an attorney. Well, that ain't good enough.
[57:58.200 --> 58:01.200]  Are you a judge?
[58:01.200 --> 58:04.200]  And if they try to say something like, well, I am for the purposes of this.
[58:04.200 --> 58:09.200]  If you're not an actual judge, and this is not an actual judicial proceeding,
[58:09.200 --> 58:12.200]  I specifically told you I was not consenting to any of this.
[58:12.200 --> 58:16.200]  So are we done here?
[58:16.200 --> 58:22.200]  And force them into the area you want them to be, not where they want you to be.
[58:22.200 --> 58:25.200]  Right.
[58:25.200 --> 58:30.200]  Okay, so you got anything else Billy Buckles, we're about to take a break.
[58:30.200 --> 58:32.200]  Uh, nope, that's it.
[58:32.200 --> 58:34.200]  All right, well thanks for calling in.
[58:34.200 --> 58:35.200]  Okay.
[58:35.200 --> 58:38.200]  All right, Jonathan, I'll pick you up on the other side of this break.
[58:38.200 --> 58:42.200]  Call in number 512-646-1984.
[58:42.200 --> 58:50.200]  Jonathan's my only caller. I need some more, so give us a holler. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:57.200 --> 01:04:01.200]  Hi folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio.
[01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:08.200]  Call in number 512-646-1984. Right now we're going to Jonathan in Pennsylvania.
[01:04:08.200 --> 01:04:12.200]  Jonathan, what can we do for you?
[01:04:12.200 --> 01:04:17.200]  I'm from Pennsylvania. I actually live in Pennsylvania, but I'm from North Carolina.
[01:04:17.200 --> 01:04:24.200]  I was home over Independence Day holiday there visiting some family and pulled up to a license check.
[01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:33.200]  Actually, my wife was behind the wheel. I was her guest in the car there.
[01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:43.200]  What happened was we actually wound up getting, I wound up getting yanked out of the car and arrested.
[01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:46.200]  Okay, four?
[01:04:46.200 --> 01:04:51.200]  Well, I was charged with resisting a public officer.
[01:04:51.200 --> 01:04:55.200]  How could you do that from inside your car?
[01:04:55.200 --> 01:05:02.200]  Right. I had the doors locked. What happened was, I've been coaching my wife on this kind of stuff for a little bit,
[01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:09.200]  but I think in the heat of the moment, things kind of went bad.
[01:05:09.200 --> 01:05:16.200]  The one officer came up to the left side of the car and she rolled her window all the way down.
[01:05:16.200 --> 01:05:22.200]  She didn't have her driver's license on her, so she asked to step out so she can get it.
[01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:28.200]  Meanwhile, another officer came up to my window shining his flashlight into the car.
[01:05:28.200 --> 01:05:32.200]  So I just cracked my window, just say something to him, and he told me,
[01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:35.200]  open your legs, open your legs. Let me see what's in there.
[01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:42.200]  So I rolled the window back up. He didn't open my car door, which I then yanked shut and locked.
[01:05:42.200 --> 01:05:50.200]  I reached across his driver's side, I'm sorry, to the left side of the car and locked all the doors.
[01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:57.200]  I then looked back to the right there and there's another officer standing there with a baton getting ready to break my glass.
[01:05:57.200 --> 01:06:01.200]  So I put my hands up, so I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:06.200]  Now I guess the arresting officer looked across and saw another one standing over there,
[01:06:06.200 --> 01:06:14.200]  reached in and unlocked the doors. He then opened the door, pulled me out, and arrested me.
[01:06:14.200 --> 01:06:22.200]  They then immediately started to search the car without permission, without any kind of consent at that point.
[01:06:22.200 --> 01:06:29.200]  It wasn't until later that my wife actually did get consent. Probably it was after I was already sitting in the squad car.
[01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:36.200]  So I was charged with the resisting officer right then, whenever I shut the door, and then later when I was in the squad car,
[01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:41.200]  he'd come to me and ask me if I had a driver's license.
[01:06:41.200 --> 01:06:46.200]  I said, yeah, you know, I was handcuffed and I started to reach in my back pocket and I said, well, you know what, I don't consent.
[01:06:46.200 --> 01:06:53.200]  Well, he had already had his hand underneath my rear end reaching into my pocket when I sat down on his hand.
[01:06:53.200 --> 01:06:57.200]  And I just said, hey, sir, I do not consent. I do not consent.
[01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:03.200]  And, well, you know, he got my wallet in my pocket and walked away, you know.
[01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:11.200]  So that was the traffic stop, of course, I was taken to the jailhouse, you know, before the magistrate there.
[01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:17.200]  He wrote up his order before the magistrate. The magistrate specifically said where I could hear him,
[01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:22.200]  you did not have proper cause. He does not have to provide evidence against himself.
[01:07:22.200 --> 01:07:28.200]  And the officer just repeated his argument, almost verbatim.
[01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:34.200]  And so the magistrate just wrote up the order, you know, and it gave me two counts resisting public officer.
[01:07:34.200 --> 01:07:43.200]  Okay, did you need to get your hands on whatever recording was made of that review and discussion?
[01:07:43.200 --> 01:07:46.200]  There should be a recording of that proceeding.
[01:07:46.200 --> 01:07:55.200]  You need to get it because if the judge sat there and told the officer that he did not have probable cause and then gave the thing anyway,
[01:07:55.200 --> 01:07:59.200]  that's criminal conspiracy.
[01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:08.200]  In North Carolina, they've already got a lot of issues going against them in North Carolina.
[01:08:08.200 --> 01:08:14.200]  It's already been determined. Now, which agency was this?
[01:08:14.200 --> 01:08:19.200]  Was it city cops, county cops, state troopers?
[01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:22.200]  Yeah, the state bill police department.
[01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:34.200]  Okay. Yeah, there's plenty of case law in the books that says very clearly a guest in a car doesn't have to provide an officer anything at a traffic stop.
[01:08:34.200 --> 01:08:46.200]  Absolutely nothing. They can't ask you for ID and they can't demand that you let them do anything when they don't have a warrant to search the car.
[01:08:46.200 --> 01:08:47.200]  Right.
[01:08:47.200 --> 01:08:52.200]  And since no one was under arrest at the time of this illegal search.
[01:08:52.200 --> 01:08:53.200]  No, no.
[01:08:53.200 --> 01:09:01.200]  Yeah, the problem is is your wife consented after the fact and the way the Supreme Court is already ruling on home invasions by cops.
[01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:09.200]  I'm pretty sure you're not going to have any grounds to say that the search was illegal at this point because she consented.
[01:09:09.200 --> 01:09:18.200]  Right now, the Supreme Court's got taste law in the books that says if any person consents to a search of a home and that person has a lawful legal right to be there,
[01:09:18.200 --> 01:09:25.200]  then it doesn't matter if any other person objects and says no, even if they are the actual property owner.
[01:09:25.200 --> 01:09:27.200]  The one consent is enough.
[01:09:27.200 --> 01:09:28.200]  What happened in?
[01:09:28.200 --> 01:09:29.200]  Huh?
[01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:32.200]  Does it matter which order the events took place?
[01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:38.200]  Well, the thing about it is once she consented, she waived the prior offense by them.
[01:09:38.200 --> 01:09:48.200]  That's the way that now you can try to make the argument, but I can almost guarantee you the courts are going to latch on to that like a saving a life saver in an ocean.
[01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:51.200]  I mean, they're they're going to hit that life preserver and hang on.
[01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:53.200]  Well, the wife consented.
[01:09:53.200 --> 01:09:58.200]  It may have been after the fact, but she consented.
[01:09:58.200 --> 01:10:01.200]  But it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to make the argument.
[01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:05.200]  Just expect that to be something they throw out there.
[01:10:05.200 --> 01:10:08.200]  Well, I've got a couple other things here.
[01:10:08.200 --> 01:10:16.200]  As far as those records go, my sister is a paralegal there in North Carolina working for an attorney and she knows a few other attorneys.
[01:10:16.200 --> 01:10:23.200]  I talked to one who is a former district attorney who is now just a regular lawyer.
[01:10:23.200 --> 01:10:30.200]  And I asked him about those body camps and I did read the public records code and the code there.
[01:10:30.200 --> 01:10:43.200]  It's Chapter 132 says that those particular records are not considered public, but only a competent jurisdiction can get a hold of them.
[01:10:43.200 --> 01:10:50.200]  I ask that lawyer is a competent jurisdiction a pro se lawyer or a pro se.
[01:10:50.200 --> 01:10:53.200]  And what do you say to that?
[01:10:53.200 --> 01:11:00.200]  You have the right to any information and evidence that the state would intend to use or that would prove exculpatory to you in any way.
[01:11:00.200 --> 01:11:06.200]  You have a legal right to that for the purpose of preparing and making a defense.
[01:11:06.200 --> 01:11:07.200]  Okay.
[01:11:07.200 --> 01:11:19.200]  Well, that's another thing he said is that this particular office being the officer of the year last year has a record of losing the video footage.
[01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:23.200]  Now, the thing is, is there was about a dozen officers and there were eight squad cars.
[01:11:23.200 --> 01:11:26.200]  I've got two witnesses, but they do have a dozen.
[01:11:26.200 --> 01:11:27.200]  Yeah.
[01:11:27.200 --> 01:11:33.200]  So what I'm saying is you asked for every record from every car and every officer that was present that night.
[01:11:33.200 --> 01:11:36.200]  Let's see if they all lose them.
[01:11:36.200 --> 01:11:38.200]  Yes.
[01:11:38.200 --> 01:11:39.200]  Okay.
[01:11:39.200 --> 01:11:42.200]  And I've got another question here about the magistrates order.
[01:11:42.200 --> 01:11:43.200]  Here's the thing.
[01:11:43.200 --> 01:11:44.200]  Okay.
[01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:46.200]  He had my Pennsylvania drivers license.
[01:11:46.200 --> 01:11:50.200]  The magistrates order, they've got a lot of information wrong on here.
[01:11:50.200 --> 01:11:59.200]  They put my parents home address, which I do still receive mail there, but I do not reside there.
[01:11:59.200 --> 01:12:02.200]  Is it the one that's on the license?
[01:12:02.200 --> 01:12:04.200]  It's not the one on the license.
[01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:05.200]  Okay.
[01:12:05.200 --> 01:12:07.200]  Then I guarantee you that was intentional.
[01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:09.200]  Go ahead.
[01:12:09.200 --> 01:12:10.200]  Okay.
[01:12:10.200 --> 01:12:12.200]  I've got the date of birth is off.
[01:12:12.200 --> 01:12:15.200]  That's wrong.
[01:12:15.200 --> 01:12:17.200]  There's something else on here that was wrong.
[01:12:17.200 --> 01:12:19.200]  Oh, the driver's license number.
[01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:20.200]  Okay.
[01:12:20.200 --> 01:12:23.200]  So do you intend to fight this?
[01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:24.200]  Absolutely.
[01:12:24.200 --> 01:12:25.200]  Okay.
[01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:33.200]  Then you can use all of that incorrect information to prove the officer not only conducted a shoddy investigation.
[01:12:33.200 --> 01:12:39.200]  He is incompetent in the methods of which an investigation is to be done.
[01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:43.200]  And if he's not incompetent, then he's an actual liar.
[01:12:43.200 --> 01:12:52.200]  And if he's an actual liar, then how truthful could he be about the charge he made against you in the first place?
[01:12:52.200 --> 01:13:09.200]  If he's so incompetent he can't get information that he's got in front of him correct, then how can he be expected to make a correct assessment of what laws were violated to make a charge?
[01:13:09.200 --> 01:13:10.200]  I understand.
[01:13:10.200 --> 01:13:23.200]  Now take that in correlation with the videos that you should be able to get your hands on, and you'll have proof positive that everything the officer did was fabricated.
[01:13:23.200 --> 01:13:24.200]  Okay.
[01:13:24.200 --> 01:13:30.200]  So I do want to fight this based on the fact that he did not have probable cause, but also on the fact that he is.
[01:13:30.200 --> 01:13:39.200]  If you actually have to be the one to take it to trial, but you can also use this information if you use an attorney to force the attorney to take a look at it and to use it.
[01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:43.200]  Don't let the attorney tell you this is not useful information because it absolutely is.
[01:13:43.200 --> 01:13:49.200]  The question is whether or not he's going to do his best for you or he's going to protect the cop.
[01:13:49.200 --> 01:13:50.200]  Right.
[01:13:50.200 --> 01:13:52.200]  And see, I already talked to one.
[01:13:52.200 --> 01:13:54.200]  It's considering hiring him.
[01:13:54.200 --> 01:13:56.200]  This is something I've been looking at for a little while now.
[01:13:56.200 --> 01:14:01.200]  I'm still kind of new at procedure and things like that.
[01:14:01.200 --> 01:14:05.200]  And the conversation didn't go very well.
[01:14:05.200 --> 01:14:15.200]  So he was wanting to put some things on the record such as, you know, Jeanette had, my wife had a valid driver's license that the car was registered.
[01:14:15.200 --> 01:14:22.200]  And these are things I necessarily want into the record because I was doing my best not to admit to any of these things.
[01:14:22.200 --> 01:14:24.200]  Now, here's another thing.
[01:14:24.200 --> 01:14:28.200]  Every officer I came in contact that night, I asked to identify.
[01:14:28.200 --> 01:14:30.200]  Not one of them would do it.
[01:14:30.200 --> 01:14:33.200]  They all said, you don't need to know that.
[01:14:33.200 --> 01:14:35.200]  Is there a problem there?
[01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:36.200]  Absolutely.
[01:14:36.200 --> 01:14:37.200]  They're public servants.
[01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:41.200]  They're supposed to identify themselves and what authority they're acting under.
[01:14:41.200 --> 01:14:45.200]  But they don't think of themselves as public servants anymore.
[01:14:45.200 --> 01:14:50.200]  They think of themselves as public lords.
[01:14:50.200 --> 01:14:53.200]  Absolutely.
[01:14:53.200 --> 01:15:05.200]  And then some of the information in the magistrate's order is incorrect or it's false, such as he asked me to get out of the car or the vehicle.
[01:15:05.200 --> 01:15:10.200]  Right. Again, something you can use the video to discredit.
[01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:17.200]  There's nothing you're going to be able to do that you'll be able to prove in relation to testimony or anything against 12 cops.
[01:15:17.200 --> 01:15:21.200]  But the 12 cops can't change what all the video shows.
[01:15:21.200 --> 01:15:22.200]  That's right.
[01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:25.200]  So that's why that video is imperative.
[01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:33.200]  It's also the reason why I tell people, make sure you have something that records video of your own.
[01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:34.200]  Right.
[01:15:34.200 --> 01:15:38.200]  And I really do wish we had a recording going and tell you what.
[01:15:38.200 --> 01:15:42.200]  I actually bought a dash cam and the thing broke two weeks prior.
[01:15:42.200 --> 01:15:43.200]  Yeah.
[01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:50.200]  If you really want something that'll be reliable but doesn't stream out like it needs to.
[01:15:50.200 --> 01:15:55.200]  I'm hoping one of these days they solve this problem but get you a GoPro camera.
[01:15:55.200 --> 01:16:01.200]  Especially the newer one that now works in low light very, very well.
[01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:03.200]  Okay.
[01:16:03.200 --> 01:16:06.200]  I'm definitely going to do that.
[01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:09.200]  And I do have one more question for you.
[01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:14.200]  It's a question of strategy.
[01:16:14.200 --> 01:16:24.200]  I'm kind of curious as to if I should go ahead and enter a counter claim or if I should try to get the case dismissed and then later on enter claims against everybody.
[01:16:24.200 --> 01:16:27.200]  Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:16:27.200 --> 01:16:31.200]  Tell me what you mean by a counter claim.
[01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:32.200]  Counter claim.
[01:16:32.200 --> 01:16:36.200]  What I mean by that is right now they have a claim against me.
[01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:41.200]  No, they have a criminal accusation against you.
[01:16:41.200 --> 01:16:44.200]  They're mixing genres of law here.
[01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:52.200]  And that's what I keep saying about this, the Patriot stuff dealing with claims and accepted for value and all this other kind of stuff that goes down that same road.
[01:16:52.200 --> 01:16:53.200]  Hang on, Jonathan.
[01:16:53.200 --> 01:16:54.200]  We'll finish this on the other side.
[01:16:54.200 --> 01:16:55.200]  All right, folks.
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[01:19:22.200 --> 01:19:29.200]  Alright, folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. We're talking to Jonathan in Pennsylvania.
[01:19:29.200 --> 01:19:37.200]  Alright, Jonathan, as far as the counterclaim stuff goes, I'm not going to recommend anything along that course of action,
[01:19:37.200 --> 01:19:43.200]  because I don't see how it carries any traction in a criminal case.
[01:19:43.200 --> 01:19:53.200]  This goes more in the line of whether you're trying to make a specific commercial claim or you're asserting they're trying to make a specific commercial claim
[01:19:53.200 --> 01:20:06.200]  when these particular charges, if I'm not mistaken, in North Carolina are penal code violations, not regulatory code violations.
[01:20:06.200 --> 01:20:08.200]  There's a difference in the two.
[01:20:08.200 --> 01:20:17.200]  The regulatory codes are always administrative in what they do. The penal code, however, isn't.
[01:20:17.200 --> 01:20:28.200]  So the only thing I would know of that they're doing in relation to transportation that you can make a claim against is that they're charging you something in relation to a traffic ticket,
[01:20:28.200 --> 01:20:33.200]  and that's not what they're doing to you. Am I correct?
[01:20:33.200 --> 01:20:34.200]  That's correct.
[01:20:34.200 --> 01:20:44.200]  Okay, and so if you're actually talking about hiring an attorney, I guarantee you he is not going down that road.
[01:20:44.200 --> 01:21:00.200]  Now, if you relegate him to an advisory capacity, then you can do that yourself, but I don't put any stock in making claims when it's an actual criminal act they're coming against you with.
[01:21:00.200 --> 01:21:03.200]  Okay.
[01:21:03.200 --> 01:21:08.200]  Now, there will be a complaint on the record, is that right?
[01:21:08.200 --> 01:21:16.200]  There should be. It depends on what North Carolina statute and law says grants a court jurisdiction of a cause.
[01:21:16.200 --> 01:21:26.200]  But in every state, any proceeding generally begins with a complaint, whether it's civil or criminal.
[01:21:26.200 --> 01:21:35.200]  Okay, and just backing up here real quick back to the records.
[01:21:35.200 --> 01:21:43.200]  Now, if they refuse to give me records, how would I go about getting something like that?
[01:21:43.200 --> 01:21:55.200]  You can do it through court order discovery if no other way, but the one thing you need to check on is North Carolina's open records or public information acts, whatever that may actually be in North Carolina.
[01:21:55.200 --> 01:22:03.200]  Look at it and see specifically what it exempts from public disclosure and what it says must be given in public disclosure.
[01:22:03.200 --> 01:22:11.200]  And whether or not the public must submit a written request or whether they can just walk up and demand it.
[01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:14.200]  Right. No, I actually have that.
[01:22:14.200 --> 01:22:18.200]  You've got the entire act?
[01:22:18.200 --> 01:22:25.200]  I'm not sure if I do. I went to North Carolina.gov and I'm under the general statutes under public records.
[01:22:25.200 --> 01:22:36.200]  Okay. You want to read that whole thing, not just parts of it. Read it all because that'll tell you what they're required to do as well as what information you can have.
[01:22:36.200 --> 01:22:50.200]  You've got to know everything in it because that's what you're going to use to hold them to it. And there should be, here in Texas, for example, there is a criminal punishment for violations of that act by a public official.
[01:22:50.200 --> 01:22:54.200]  You need to see if there's one like that in that act.
[01:22:54.200 --> 01:22:56.200]  Okay.
[01:22:56.200 --> 01:23:01.200]  Because that's how you're going to hold their feet to the fire to comply.
[01:23:01.200 --> 01:23:16.200]  I see. Well, they've got a subsection in here that says criminal investigations that records of criminal investigations conducted by public law enforcement agencies, records of criminal intelligence information compiled by public law enforcement agencies, and records of investigations.
[01:23:16.200 --> 01:23:25.200]  Yes, that would prevent it from being disclosed to the general public, but it cannot be used to deny the defense access to it.
[01:23:25.200 --> 01:23:27.200]  I see. Okay.
[01:23:27.200 --> 01:23:39.200]  They don't have to give it out as public information while it's going on, but they certainly cannot prevent the individual that it's being used against from having access to the evidence and information.
[01:23:39.200 --> 01:23:53.200]  All you have to do to nullify that statement in that act is to check the rules of evidence in North Carolina because it'll say in the rules of evidence both parties must have access to the information.
[01:23:53.200 --> 01:23:59.200]  And here's the procedures that can be used to gain access to that information.
[01:23:59.200 --> 01:24:13.200]  And that will supersede the act in that case because it's a court-related function, not a public record-related function.
[01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:16.200]  I see. Okay.
[01:24:16.200 --> 01:24:27.200]  All right. See, that was that thing I was talking about earlier in the show that a law or statute cannot be used to harm a right or to perpetrate a harm against an individual directly.
[01:24:27.200 --> 01:24:44.200]  By denying you the ability to have access to the evidence they're attempting to use against you and any exculpatory evidence that would allow you to defend yourself, that is a harm.
[01:24:44.200 --> 01:24:59.200]  Okay. Now, suppose in the unlikely, very improbable event that they lose all of that video evidence, would that mean that they don't really have much of a case against me except for against other officers?
[01:24:59.200 --> 01:25:08.200]  No, it wouldn't mean that they don't have a case against you. It just means that they're all getting ready to lie about it. That's what that will mean.
[01:25:08.200 --> 01:25:11.200]  There's not much defense against that.
[01:25:11.200 --> 01:25:29.200]  Here there is. If you do it soon enough before they get their stories organized, you could hold depositions and get each witness present to testify and make sure that everywhere their stories conflict, you beat them to death with it.
[01:25:29.200 --> 01:25:33.200]  Not during the deposition, of course, but at trial.
[01:25:33.200 --> 01:25:38.200]  But again, these are things your attorney would know to do or should know to do.
[01:25:38.200 --> 01:25:48.200]  But you need to know it too so you'll know if he isn't doing it, you can ask him why.
[01:25:48.200 --> 01:25:53.200]  Right. And when I talked to this particular attorney, he sounded good on the phone.
[01:25:53.200 --> 01:25:58.200]  They always do. They always do.
[01:25:58.200 --> 01:26:09.200]  But when I asked him some specific questions about who's in charge basically and things like that, he kind of lost interest in my case.
[01:26:09.200 --> 01:26:26.200]  Right. Because he came to understand that you want to know if you have any say so in your defense or if he's going to demand that you let him take care of you the way he takes care of everybody else, which is cut plea deals, waive your rights, and collect his money.
[01:26:26.200 --> 01:26:40.200]  Right. No attorney wants to work for a living. None of them.
[01:26:40.200 --> 01:26:46.200]  All right. Well, I got my work cut out for him. It sounds like. Yes, you do. No matter which way you go.
[01:26:46.200 --> 01:26:58.200]  All right. Thanks for calling in. All right. Good luck. All right. Now we're going to go to Truth Raider in Oregon. I've got about two and a half minutes before I go to break.
[01:26:58.200 --> 01:27:01.200]  So let's get started, Truth Raider.
[01:27:01.200 --> 01:27:11.200]  Hi, Eddie. Thank you for taking my call. This is just an update and a little statement. I got to say what's going on here in Oregon as far as traffic patrol, law enforcement, and how they handle things here currently.
[01:27:11.200 --> 01:27:29.200]  And then I had a couple of questions about alternative ways law enforcement that you would suggest that are a little bit better than just patrolling and stopping people for expired tags, broken tail light, suspicion of DUI, et cetera.
[01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:36.200]  Police should work the same way the fire department does. Stay the hell in the house until somebody calls you.
[01:27:36.200 --> 01:27:49.200]  All right. Very good. But what's going on here in the time that we have left before we go to break is they apparently have suspended the traffic patrol program here in the area that I live.
[01:27:49.200 --> 01:27:56.200]  I live in Maloma County in an municipality suburb of Portland, Oregon called Gresham, Oregon.
[01:27:56.200 --> 01:28:09.200]  So when you say traffic patrol, are we talking about where they issue citations by doing traffic enforcement or are we talking about rolling police cruisers through neighborhoods?
[01:28:09.200 --> 01:28:28.200]  We're talking about rolling police cruisers up and down Boulevard streets, just regular, just following people in certain zones of town in that nature. I hadn't seen any hair of them.
[01:28:28.200 --> 01:28:39.200]  So about maybe the last time I really saw anything going on like a traffic patrol where they just around looking, you know, they're looking for bait and which to go after was two years ago.
[01:28:39.200 --> 01:28:46.200]  They were, every summer they would park down by the local Walmart, which is just kind of adjacent to the Boulevard.
[01:28:46.200 --> 01:28:57.200]  Okay. Well, how are you linking a decrease in activity to a suspension of the enforcement protocol itself?
[01:28:57.200 --> 01:29:07.200]  They're starting to recognize that people are aware of the true statutes.
[01:29:07.200 --> 01:29:12.200]  Is this an assumption or do you have something that backs that up?
[01:29:12.200 --> 01:29:29.200]  Well, we're actually a couple policemen and they say, well, we're not doing the regular traffic patrols quite as often because of circumstances that we can't really discuss with you specifically about.
[01:29:29.200 --> 01:29:43.200]  So at the time we don't choose to be able to or choose to follow people without a particular cause or something of some emergency nature as far as they can go with me.
[01:29:43.200 --> 01:29:46.200]  Okay. Well, hang on just a second and we'll finish this up on the other side.
[01:29:46.200 --> 01:29:51.200]  All right, folks, this is Rule of Law Radio. Got about a half an hour left in the show.
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[01:33:35.540 --> 01:34:03.780]  all right folks we are back this is rule of law radio and we are talking with
[01:34:03.780 --> 01:34:11.420]  truth raider in Oregon let's finish this up so what what you're doing is so
[01:34:11.420 --> 01:34:14.460]  far you're saying you're reading between the lines because they haven't come
[01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:18.300]  right out and said what we're discussing here as far as the relationship
[01:34:18.300 --> 01:34:23.420]  between the decrease in patrols and stops for traffic and things like that
[01:34:23.420 --> 01:34:27.540]  but they're making a general inference or you're reading into it is that being
[01:34:27.540 --> 01:34:31.820]  the inference how's that working well then you just vague you vague about it
[01:34:31.820 --> 01:34:36.020]  how you told me we're just not doing it unless there's a specific specific
[01:34:36.020 --> 01:34:40.860]  purposes for example stolen vehicles okay if you want to know for certain what
[01:34:40.860 --> 01:34:45.500]  it is then you need to do whatever constitutes a public information or
[01:34:45.500 --> 01:34:52.540]  records request in Oregon requesting any and all internal communications meetings
[01:34:52.540 --> 01:34:57.980]  anything from like an open meetings act or anything like that that is relating
[01:34:57.980 --> 01:35:04.660]  to that subject and that program for a given area and see if you can obtain any
[01:35:04.660 --> 01:35:09.940]  documentation that will take what you're believing is happening and make it a
[01:35:09.940 --> 01:35:17.180]  valid documented fact okay I guess that I haven't seen them anywhere around
[01:35:17.180 --> 01:35:21.380]  three like you know yeah and there could be various reasons for that there
[01:35:21.380 --> 01:35:26.300]  could they could also be getting ready to do these large-scale drug stings or
[01:35:26.300 --> 01:35:29.940]  property seizures and so they've reallocated and repositioned everybody
[01:35:29.940 --> 01:35:34.180]  for doing that and drawn them out of your neighborhood because of it and then
[01:35:34.180 --> 01:35:38.500]  the ones that are remaining are just being either given BS to spread so that
[01:35:38.500 --> 01:35:43.500]  the real life plan isn't discovered or they don't actually know because they
[01:35:43.500 --> 01:35:48.620]  were left in the dark so that's definitely possible yeah so that
[01:35:48.620 --> 01:35:52.180]  documentation through those type of requests would be what would give you
[01:35:52.180 --> 01:36:00.180]  more of a physical proof of what you need to know okay so it's called a
[01:36:00.180 --> 01:36:05.340]  request well here in Texas it's called a public information request out of what
[01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:10.220]  used to be the open records act now it's a public information act it's also what
[01:36:10.220 --> 01:36:14.700]  we have here in Texas is also called an open meetings act which is a separate
[01:36:14.700 --> 01:36:18.420]  act that says any and all communications for the purpose of
[01:36:18.420 --> 01:36:24.420]  governmental process and procedure between any government official and any
[01:36:24.420 --> 01:36:28.340]  other government official for the purpose of conducting government business
[01:36:28.340 --> 01:36:34.140]  is subject to public information requests and has to be given so they are
[01:36:34.140 --> 01:36:38.820]  not allowed to hold meetings in secret they're not allowed to use unofficial
[01:36:38.820 --> 01:36:43.740]  emails and communication methods and anything they do in relation to public
[01:36:43.740 --> 01:36:48.780]  business for any purpose has to be documented and that documentation has
[01:36:48.780 --> 01:36:53.460]  to be turned over to the public if it's requested so see if Oregon has something
[01:36:53.460 --> 01:36:59.620]  similar hey I'll definitely look into that now the two questions I have okay
[01:36:59.620 --> 01:37:03.620]  the one question is concerning how is it you know you were at the beginning of
[01:37:03.620 --> 01:37:06.980]  the call you said that they should they should be act like fire department
[01:37:06.980 --> 01:37:11.420]  they should stay inside until you know to their call now but how would they
[01:37:11.420 --> 01:37:15.780]  that what's the alternate way they can they can take people who are who are
[01:37:15.780 --> 01:37:19.340]  driving around and stolen automobiles and people who are under the influence of
[01:37:19.340 --> 01:37:23.260]  drugs or alcohol how do we get after those and what's an alternative way that
[01:37:23.260 --> 01:37:27.620]  they can effectively and constitutionally be able to go after those type of
[01:37:27.620 --> 01:37:31.100]  individuals that make those violations well again if someone calls in and
[01:37:31.100 --> 01:37:36.260]  reports a stolen car then they can send out investigators to conduct the proper
[01:37:36.260 --> 01:37:42.140]  business of law enforcement to find the car right but they didn't go out running
[01:37:42.140 --> 01:37:49.380]  up and down the streets harassing people until someone made that call okay so it
[01:37:49.380 --> 01:37:53.220]  also in the same token of somebody who's under the influence of drugs or
[01:37:53.220 --> 01:37:56.980]  alcohol it should come from somebody who makes a report to them about it someone
[01:37:56.980 --> 01:38:02.940]  can call it in if they see it okay now my second question real quick and let's
[01:38:02.940 --> 01:38:08.340]  get on to the final callers of the show today is what's the best form of
[01:38:08.340 --> 01:38:12.540]  alternative insurance that you can that you can purchase to protect yourself
[01:38:12.540 --> 01:38:17.060]  and your automobile I don't know I'm not an insurance agent and as far as what
[01:38:17.060 --> 01:38:20.140]  you're I don't know what you're considering alternative insurance either
[01:38:20.140 --> 01:38:25.260]  most states have many different ways that you can become self-insured or
[01:38:25.260 --> 01:38:31.220]  self-responsible financially in relation to motor vehicle statutes so I don't
[01:38:31.220 --> 01:38:36.860]  really have an answer for you there there used to be all kinds of entities
[01:38:36.860 --> 01:38:40.660]  trust and things like that that set themselves up privately in the states
[01:38:40.660 --> 01:38:46.580]  did their best to outlaw any of that in order to ensure a revenue generation
[01:38:46.580 --> 01:38:50.300]  stream for the insurance companies insurance companies lobbied against
[01:38:50.300 --> 01:38:56.260]  private insurance pools that weren't regulated by the state and and bought the
[01:38:56.260 --> 01:39:01.180]  state off because most states in order to allow a regular insurance agency to
[01:39:01.180 --> 01:39:05.780]  function within it require not only the corporate fees but they get a cut of
[01:39:05.780 --> 01:39:12.100]  every policy every dollar value of a policy and every car on a policy every
[01:39:12.100 --> 01:39:15.660]  state's agreement with an insurance corporation varies as to what that state
[01:39:15.660 --> 01:39:20.460]  gets in relation to letting that insurance company do business there so
[01:39:20.460 --> 01:39:27.020]  again as long as it's a money-making enterprise they've got their lobbyists
[01:39:27.020 --> 01:39:30.220]  in there trying to get the states to outlaw anything that takes money out of
[01:39:30.220 --> 01:39:34.940]  their pockets so as far as what still exists and is available as an
[01:39:34.940 --> 01:39:41.780]  alternative I really don't know at this point okay fair enough well I'm gonna do
[01:39:41.780 --> 01:39:44.580]  some studies can continue to say I have some time away from my work for right
[01:39:44.580 --> 01:39:49.420]  now so I'll do the the the call that we had earlier we're trying to find the
[01:39:49.420 --> 01:39:53.980]  statutes in researching our organ statutes and conjunction with what
[01:39:53.980 --> 01:39:58.220]  blacks law originally wrote the definition of between what a vehicle is
[01:39:58.220 --> 01:40:03.460]  and an automobile is from one of them an operator to a traveler to a well the
[01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:08.420]  thing is the courts have always said that an automobile and a vehicle are
[01:40:08.420 --> 01:40:13.980]  functionally identical the difference between the two is not in how it's
[01:40:13.980 --> 01:40:19.860]  constructed or how it's a cheese locomotion the difference depends entirely
[01:40:19.860 --> 01:40:27.860]  upon its use and application so you're looking at the wrong thing we don't
[01:40:27.860 --> 01:40:33.020]  really care how they're defining automobile versus vehicle we're looking
[01:40:33.020 --> 01:40:39.260]  at how they're determining the use as constituting one or the other because an
[01:40:39.260 --> 01:40:45.300]  automobile most certainly can be a vehicle right oh absolutely okay use it
[01:40:45.300 --> 01:40:50.140]  for in commerce exactly and that's exactly what the courts have said but at
[01:40:50.140 --> 01:40:54.220]  the same time the courts have said what distinguishes it between being engaged
[01:40:54.220 --> 01:41:02.740]  in a regular activity as a vehicle versus an automobile is the use if it's
[01:41:02.740 --> 01:41:07.420]  being used to generate private profit or gain using the public resource of the
[01:41:07.420 --> 01:41:13.300]  highways it is a vehicle for commercial purposes
[01:41:13.300 --> 01:41:18.220]  absolutely very good any thank you very much for answering the questions of
[01:41:18.220 --> 01:41:21.180]  best of two you're good to the best of your knowledge and I'll be back in touch
[01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:24.180]  with you sometime a little bit later to let you know what my findings were okay
[01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:28.620]  well good luck all right thanks Eddie all right you have a good night okay now
[01:41:28.620 --> 01:41:33.020]  we're going to go to Dave in Delaware Dave what can we do for you you got about
[01:41:33.020 --> 01:41:37.580]  two minutes here before we go to another break yeah you had an earlier
[01:41:37.580 --> 01:41:41.860]  clover who had a friend with a traffic ticket and another friend who had a
[01:41:41.860 --> 01:41:47.340]  problem with the IRS and no no he was just asking a question about the IRS he
[01:41:47.340 --> 01:41:51.540]  said he had a he had a friend of a friend that would had a problem with him but
[01:41:51.540 --> 01:41:57.700]  go ahead well the solution would be for him to have their friend or friends go
[01:41:57.700 --> 01:42:10.540]  to escape harassment dot com or escape hyphen tickets hyphen IRS
[01:42:10.540 --> 01:42:20.580]  hyphen court dot org that's that's the answer to how to avoid being held to
[01:42:20.580 --> 01:42:27.940]  these tickets and how is that the answer well the strategy number one is the
[01:42:27.940 --> 01:42:33.260]  answer when you get to the website it's explained that strategy number one is
[01:42:33.260 --> 01:42:37.820]  how to avoid being tricked into the appearance trap or the acceptance trap
[01:42:37.820 --> 01:42:44.220]  and the subsequent contract okay you avoid that by implementing strategy
[01:42:44.220 --> 01:42:52.820]  number one okay all right well thanks for the information thank you all right
[01:42:52.820 --> 01:42:57.340]  folks again I don't I'm not related to Dave here or anything I don't know what
[01:42:57.340 --> 01:43:01.540]  the sites contain that he's talking about so again until you verified any
[01:43:01.540 --> 01:43:05.020]  information that's put out on this show I'm asking you I'm begging you no matter
[01:43:05.020 --> 01:43:10.900]  what the source including myself check out everything for yourself okay don't
[01:43:10.900 --> 01:43:16.500]  accept anything as a silver bullet just don't that's fatal in every instance
[01:43:16.500 --> 01:43:21.020]  that's fatal I'm not saying Dave's information isn't accurate but I haven't
[01:43:21.020 --> 01:43:25.100]  read it I haven't looked at it I don't even know what it is but whether it's
[01:43:25.100 --> 01:43:29.980]  mine whether it is whether it's anybody's stop looking for silver bullets
[01:43:29.980 --> 01:43:35.580]  okay you need to understand what they're doing and why they're doing it so take
[01:43:35.580 --> 01:43:41.780]  a look at it by all means just make sure you verify whatever you find okay
[01:43:41.780 --> 01:43:46.060]  alright folks we're gonna take a break we will be right back we got one more
[01:43:46.060 --> 01:43:50.140]  segment and then we're gonna take Jimmy and Marilyn when we return so y'all
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[01:46:17.660 --> 01:46:23.380]  all right folks we are back this is rule of law radio we are in our last
[01:46:23.380 --> 01:46:26.820]  segment Jimmy I see they're giving you one second and I'll take your call but
[01:46:26.820 --> 01:46:30.540]  before we do that I want to refer back to the beginning of the show what I was
[01:46:30.540 --> 01:46:36.620]  talking about for folks regarding the website quat loose and those that post
[01:46:36.620 --> 01:46:41.460]  on it and so many sites like its Southern Poverty Law Center and all this stuff
[01:46:41.460 --> 01:46:45.260]  that never verifies or researches anything before they start the little
[01:46:45.260 --> 01:46:52.460]  diatribes and character assassinations I want to read you a quote from Carl
[01:46:52.460 --> 01:46:58.340]  Sagan and see if this sounds like what I was describing early on in the show one
[01:46:58.340 --> 01:47:03.140]  of the saddest lessons of history is this if we've been bamboozled long
[01:47:03.140 --> 01:47:08.220]  enough we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle we're no longer
[01:47:08.220 --> 01:47:14.580]  interested in finding out the truth the bamboozle has captured us it's simply
[01:47:14.580 --> 01:47:20.420]  too painful to acknowledge even to ourselves that we've been taken once
[01:47:20.420 --> 01:47:28.580]  you give a charlatan power over you you almost never get it back in my opinion
[01:47:28.580 --> 01:47:33.220]  those folks that derived those of us that try to send out a little bit of
[01:47:33.220 --> 01:47:38.660]  information backed by information that we believe to be the truth because it
[01:47:38.660 --> 01:47:45.620]  comes from the source that is using that same information against us I believe
[01:47:45.620 --> 01:47:51.820]  that they intentionally allow themselves to remain bamboozled the rest of us
[01:47:51.820 --> 01:47:58.820]  have managed to shake it off we call that being awake while these guys insist on
[01:47:58.820 --> 01:48:05.820]  remaining asleep don't let them and don't let the people you know stay asleep
[01:48:05.820 --> 01:48:11.060]  all right with that being said let's get to Jimmy in Maryland all right Jimmy go
[01:48:11.060 --> 01:48:18.260]  ahead yeah yeah you know today so far so grand all right okay yeah just saying
[01:48:18.260 --> 01:48:21.940]  that you said you just was the quality you know one thing they do do is they
[01:48:21.940 --> 01:48:26.060]  use not a fear intimidation tactic that people remain afraid and scared and so
[01:48:26.060 --> 01:48:29.540]  they don't really step up and you know and hold them accountable like they
[01:48:29.540 --> 01:48:33.740]  should because that's one reason why I think we get bamboozle
[01:48:33.740 --> 01:48:38.500]  fear intimidation yeah that's exactly right they were making comments along that
[01:48:38.500 --> 01:48:42.220]  vein about my transportation script and about my practice cross-examination
[01:48:42.220 --> 01:48:46.460]  script one guy made the comment his cross-examination script should be
[01:48:46.460 --> 01:48:52.220]  titled how to get shut down by a judge in 18 seconds or less the problem is is
[01:48:52.220 --> 01:48:58.420]  he's never gone to court and used it all right and people have and the judge
[01:48:58.420 --> 01:49:02.020]  can say anything he wants to shut it down that point of it isn't whether or
[01:49:02.020 --> 01:49:05.260]  not he tries to shut you down it's whether or not you're able to get the
[01:49:05.260 --> 01:49:10.420]  information in the record and the court helps prove what you're saying
[01:49:10.420 --> 01:49:16.420]  mm-hmm yeah well I said these people they don't play fair and they'll tell you
[01:49:16.420 --> 01:49:20.020]  anything and as you guys I heard you say they make up things as they go and try
[01:49:20.020 --> 01:49:23.060]  to get you to believe in it and be bamboozled right until what they want
[01:49:23.060 --> 01:49:27.980]  to do to you oh absolutely and I don't know if you got questions or anything so
[01:49:27.980 --> 01:49:31.660]  I won't try to keep you too much by saying my own stuff here but I had a
[01:49:31.660 --> 01:49:38.860]  conversation on Facebook the guy turned out to actually be some sort of big wig
[01:49:38.860 --> 01:49:46.100]  judge and he was telling me about how the Texas statutes under 601.053 don't
[01:49:46.100 --> 01:49:53.980]  create a an air of guilt over innocence and all this kind of stuff and when I
[01:49:53.980 --> 01:49:57.500]  sent the statute and he said he was very familiar how this works he reads the
[01:49:57.500 --> 01:50:01.940]  stuff every single day so I sent it back to him in its entirety and in broken
[01:50:01.940 --> 01:50:07.780]  down pieces word-for-word and said okay where it says the accused shall be
[01:50:07.780 --> 01:50:13.180]  presumed in violation of the statute how is that not a predetermination of
[01:50:13.180 --> 01:50:22.180]  guilt the print the accused must produce evidence that they had financial
[01:50:22.180 --> 01:50:27.100]  responsibility or they shall be presumed to be in violation of the statute how
[01:50:27.100 --> 01:50:32.740]  is that not a reversal of the burden of proof suddenly his entire demeanor
[01:50:32.740 --> 01:50:37.500]  change in the conversation was over and I got feedback later from another party
[01:50:37.500 --> 01:50:44.700]  saying he admitted you had some good points so that just goes to show you if
[01:50:44.700 --> 01:50:50.100]  I'm so wrong why is it that once I get in a public discussion with these
[01:50:50.100 --> 01:50:54.980]  individuals that tell me I'm wrong and supposedly should have the ability to
[01:50:54.980 --> 01:51:02.180]  show me where I'm wrong can't and run away when I put it in front of them and
[01:51:02.180 --> 01:51:05.300]  I'm not saying that the despair is the guy as far as the run away it's just a
[01:51:05.300 --> 01:51:09.100]  general description every time I try to have this conversation I either get
[01:51:09.100 --> 01:51:12.420]  poo-pooed is all that's your interpretation well sorry guys that's
[01:51:12.420 --> 01:51:18.260]  the coward's way out of this debate okay so you can't pull the challenge and you
[01:51:18.260 --> 01:51:22.380]  pull just believe them exactly and that's what the folks that sites like
[01:51:22.380 --> 01:51:26.980]  quat loose and Southern Poverty Law Center want us to keep doing is believing
[01:51:26.980 --> 01:51:33.540]  and drinking the Kool-Aid all right sorry another die-tribe of mine what do you
[01:51:33.540 --> 01:51:41.060]  got for us okay yes if they had a little adventure I was I didn't realize my my
[01:51:41.060 --> 01:51:47.900]  left front light was out the fold over light being headlight or signal light
[01:51:47.900 --> 01:51:54.620]  front headlight okay my left front headlight was out also pulled me over
[01:51:54.620 --> 01:51:59.780]  and gave you my name date of birth they couldn't find me
[01:51:59.780 --> 01:52:03.620]  guess I'm fine another officer came in you know the question I had a witness
[01:52:03.620 --> 01:52:07.500]  with me in you know the car and he said why is he a lot of the officer that is
[01:52:07.500 --> 01:52:11.300]  not sure that is not sure then I said yes it isn't been in my friends oh yeah
[01:52:11.300 --> 01:52:14.260]  he was confirming what I'm saying we should it is my name and if they did my
[01:52:14.260 --> 01:52:22.660]  date of birth so what happened is they end up um I they end up fighting me with
[01:52:22.660 --> 01:52:27.460]  a fictitious driver's license I've had a problem before in the past with his
[01:52:27.460 --> 01:52:31.180]  driver's license it's I called you before to talk about the the sound
[01:52:31.180 --> 01:52:34.140]  assistant that they use they try to use your name and date of birth you know I
[01:52:34.140 --> 01:52:38.220]  don't have a license like you I have surrendered my license back in 98 so
[01:52:38.220 --> 01:52:43.020]  right since I'm not in the system they're using a fictitious sound
[01:52:43.020 --> 01:52:46.140]  assistant that's actually it's form because I never styled off and agreed to
[01:52:46.140 --> 01:52:49.980]  these are the number but it has a different date of birth on it and it's
[01:52:49.980 --> 01:52:54.900]  kind of seeing the complaint and the citation both have different dates of
[01:52:54.900 --> 01:53:02.380]  birth you know the the the muffin are either of them correct different no okay
[01:53:02.380 --> 01:53:08.460]  then that that right there is a facial is a facially a facial invalidity in the
[01:53:08.460 --> 01:53:14.820]  complaint okay what they would when I see what they will try to do any is when
[01:53:14.820 --> 01:53:20.420]  I when I'll go to court they'll they'll try to do something like a an amended
[01:53:20.420 --> 01:53:25.420]  complainer try to try to admit it and try just aka and try to add that on instead
[01:53:25.420 --> 01:53:30.020]  of correct the record they'll just add on you know just add on that with the
[01:53:30.020 --> 01:53:34.020]  with the malicious you know fictitious information it's already
[01:53:34.020 --> 01:53:38.180]  established so I don't really see how they try to correct the record you know
[01:53:38.180 --> 01:53:41.660]  this had me a couple years ago when they just you know they they try to they
[01:53:41.660 --> 01:53:47.540]  try to submit a the the driver with the sound x number and then the driver with
[01:53:47.540 --> 01:53:51.620]  with my you know what's with the driver's license that I that I
[01:53:51.620 --> 01:53:55.900]  surrendered in in the past and I know that both are fictitious because they
[01:53:55.900 --> 01:53:59.940]  don't exist I know there's I've been trying to search online for what's for
[01:53:59.940 --> 01:54:05.420]  I know the case call that says that you know the state can't can't suspend
[01:54:05.420 --> 01:54:13.140]  something that does not exist yeah they or yeah if it if it doesn't exist or it
[01:54:13.140 --> 01:54:21.980]  expired legally expired without any bad status to it when it did so they can't
[01:54:21.980 --> 01:54:25.940]  resurrect it for the purpose of suspending it and thus creating a crime
[01:54:25.940 --> 01:54:32.060]  that makes the action retroactive if they can literally reach back in time to
[01:54:32.060 --> 01:54:40.100]  take an already expired license and declare it suspended and then say that
[01:54:40.100 --> 01:54:44.380]  it was suspended in here in Texas for instance statutes very clear you can
[01:54:44.380 --> 01:54:48.140]  only be charged with the driving law license invalid in relation to a license
[01:54:48.140 --> 01:54:54.860]  if the license expired during a period when it was actually suspended and you
[01:54:54.860 --> 01:55:00.060]  were actually engaged in activity requiring that license to be valid
[01:55:00.060 --> 01:55:05.940]  okay then they can charge you with driving while license invalid but the
[01:55:05.940 --> 01:55:13.060]  issue here is is if your license expired without any detrimental basis for it it
[01:55:13.060 --> 01:55:18.540]  just it would expire because it was its four year or six year term limit and you
[01:55:18.540 --> 01:55:24.380]  didn't renew it for them to attempt to reach back to an already expired license
[01:55:24.380 --> 01:55:28.580]  and resurrect it for the purpose of suspending it makes that action
[01:55:28.580 --> 01:55:33.100]  retroactive that's criminal it's a violation of the Constitution on its
[01:55:33.100 --> 01:55:38.580]  face well well I might have something on that when I but you know when I did
[01:55:38.580 --> 01:55:44.500]  submit my license then back in 98 it it wasn't a suspended status or something
[01:55:44.500 --> 01:55:48.940]  in 91 but I know when you submitted it in like said they destroy it it becomes
[01:55:48.940 --> 01:55:53.260]  null and void and I have record it but he said it was turned in and destroyed so
[01:55:53.260 --> 01:55:57.780]  it should be null and void exactly but but what they're doing and they're using
[01:55:57.780 --> 01:56:01.260]  as a justice like to the sound next update if they can't find the system they
[01:56:01.260 --> 01:56:05.220]  will create it by your name and date of birth they would create a number for you
[01:56:05.220 --> 01:56:09.380]  to cite you with and then that's what they were used and I've had this like
[01:56:09.380 --> 01:56:13.060]  they said which in a couple years ago where they when they've used both object
[01:56:13.060 --> 01:56:17.380]  to it and you know judge doing whatever they're going to do as you still allow
[01:56:17.380 --> 01:56:22.060]  them to do that too you know to oh that's nothing to tell you that I don't know
[01:56:22.060 --> 01:56:25.860]  where to come up with this when they date the driving record that they come
[01:56:25.860 --> 01:56:31.740]  for certified documentation of a bogus driver's license number that like
[01:56:31.740 --> 01:56:36.180]  well no no no wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait are you
[01:56:36.180 --> 01:56:41.300]  sure you're reading into that correctly now consider this this little paradigm
[01:56:41.300 --> 01:56:49.500]  here they get a certified record how does that make the record invalid if it's
[01:56:49.500 --> 01:56:56.100]  an official record they can get it certified right the question becomes
[01:56:56.100 --> 01:57:02.420]  well wait a minute the question becomes is the information in the record
[01:57:02.420 --> 01:57:10.020]  certified or is just the copy of the information itself certified did they
[01:57:10.020 --> 01:57:16.140]  certify that the information in the document was 100% true and accurate or
[01:57:16.140 --> 01:57:25.100]  did they simply certified as something produced at an official source that's
[01:57:25.100 --> 01:57:30.260]  what I think it is the latter what you just said it has to be the latter see if
[01:57:30.260 --> 01:57:35.100]  you can show or force them to prove that what they allege in the document is
[01:57:35.100 --> 01:57:39.620]  true and correct and they can't do it then the only thing they could have done
[01:57:39.620 --> 01:57:44.140]  is got well we produced it then we certified that it was an actual record
[01:57:44.140 --> 01:57:49.140]  well great but are you certifying that the information in this so-called record
[01:57:49.140 --> 01:57:57.380]  is true and accurate those are two different things okay I hear the
[01:57:57.380 --> 01:58:03.060]  news I guess yeah we got a little less than a minute left to go here so you
[01:58:03.060 --> 01:58:07.300]  got anything else you want to add do that in 30 seconds okay okay well I
[01:58:07.300 --> 01:58:14.300]  regret that they did you know they did like me up and you're out on spinning lights and giant white furligid circle
[01:58:14.300 --> 01:58:19.580]  without authorization so I can't force my attention to that that could fight and I know you didn't have
[01:58:19.580 --> 01:58:23.620]  criminal suspicion because I'm like that but I've known headlight is not
[01:58:23.620 --> 01:58:28.180]  official yeah you're gonna have to take it the task on that and make them prove
[01:58:28.180 --> 01:58:32.740]  what they're asserting the record actually says okay challenge the
[01:58:32.740 --> 01:58:37.220]  information in the record itself not the actual certification of the record but
[01:58:37.220 --> 01:58:42.340]  the information in it okay okay all right Jimmy thanks for calling in man all
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