[00:00.000 --> 00:07.340]  You're listening to the Liberty Beat, your daily source for Liberty news and activist
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[00:15.820 --> 00:16.820]  This is Justin Armand.
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[01:02.400 --> 01:03.760]  And now the news.
[01:03.760 --> 01:08.280]  The New York Times and the Justice Department are under scrutiny for bowing to the NSA for
[01:08.280 --> 01:14.040]  either hiding or misinforming the public about the agency's secret spying program.
[01:14.040 --> 01:19.880]  A two-part program called United States of Secrets reveals the New York Times' 2004 decision
[01:19.880 --> 01:25.520]  to kill a story on the NSA spying program in the months leading up to the year's presidential
[01:25.520 --> 01:26.520]  election.
[01:26.520 --> 01:30.880]  Officials at the NSA reportedly convinced journalists at the New York Times not to run
[01:30.880 --> 01:36.140]  a story claiming the agency's spying tactics were completely legal and, if revealed, could
[01:36.140 --> 01:41.560]  endanger the country's national security.
[01:41.560 --> 01:47.240]  Monday a Texas County grand jury indicted a former Austin police detective for manslaughter.
[01:47.240 --> 01:53.280]  The second-degree charge is punishable for up to 20 years in prison and a fine of $10,000.
[01:53.280 --> 01:57.600]  Officials were investigating a bank robbery when 32-year-old Larry Jackson showed up at
[01:57.600 --> 01:59.720]  the scene of the crime.
[01:59.720 --> 02:03.680]  Detectives began questioning Jackson after bank officials said they recognized him as
[02:03.680 --> 02:06.480]  a man who might try to defraud the bank.
[02:06.480 --> 02:11.080]  When Jackson fled after being questioned, former detective Charles Kleinert chased him
[02:11.080 --> 02:13.440]  down fatally shooting him in the neck.
[02:13.440 --> 02:17.760]  The grand jury said Kleinert failed to maintain a sufficient distance from Jackson in which
[02:17.760 --> 02:19.880]  he could safely holster his gun.
[02:19.880 --> 02:25.320]  Kleinert retired last October, but pension records show he will still collect $72,000
[02:25.320 --> 02:27.640]  annually, even if he's convicted.
[02:27.640 --> 02:34.720]  In 2013, among the 360,000 illegal immigrants freed by the United States Immigration and
[02:34.720 --> 02:43.040]  Customs Enforcement were 116 homicide convictions, 43 negligent for manslaughter, and 14 for voluntary
[02:43.040 --> 02:44.040]  manslaughter.
[02:44.040 --> 02:48.840]  The Center for Immigration Studies revealed that ICE was holding deportation proceedings
[02:48.840 --> 02:52.440]  for the convicts, but instead released them back into the country.
[02:52.440 --> 02:57.600]  Texas Republican Lamar Smith is calling the release the worst prison break in American
[02:57.600 --> 02:58.600]  history.
[02:58.600 --> 03:26.120]  Well, I received my remedy today, came in a box just like they say, I accepted it for
[03:26.120 --> 03:44.920]  the first time, I accepted it for the second time, I accepted it for the third time, I
[03:44.920 --> 03:53.520]  accepted it for the fourth time.
[03:53.520 --> 03:56.400]  Okay.
[03:56.400 --> 03:59.320]  Okay.
[03:59.320 --> 04:01.560]  Kill the bumper music, Randy.
[04:01.560 --> 04:04.600]  I didn't hear the beep.
[04:04.600 --> 04:06.760]  I didn't either.
[04:06.760 --> 04:07.760]  Okay.
[04:07.760 --> 04:08.760]  Okay.
[04:08.760 --> 04:09.760]  I'll stay here for a minute.
[04:09.760 --> 04:10.760]  Okay, shows are live anyway.
[04:10.760 --> 04:11.760]  Okay.
[04:11.760 --> 04:17.720]  Sorry guys, we are really confused here on the break and we're good at that.
[04:17.720 --> 04:25.600]  Okay, when we went out, we were talking about they snuck in three notes at one time by telling
[04:25.600 --> 04:32.320]  her they were something else or were offers or bids and they were actually contract agreements
[04:32.320 --> 04:35.480]  and then they send them all to the bank at the same time.
[04:35.480 --> 04:39.160]  That's what they do when they do an 80-20.
[04:39.160 --> 04:45.880]  You will qualify for an 80, 80% of the note, but the other 20% you don't qualify for.
[04:45.880 --> 04:53.560]  So they break it into two notes and they send them both into the bank at the same time.
[04:53.560 --> 05:01.200]  So when the bank runs a check on your credit, neither one of these are on your record yet.
[05:01.200 --> 05:07.360]  So when they check the first one, they don't see that you have the 20% note and when they
[05:07.360 --> 05:10.720]  do the 20% note, they don't see that you have the 80% note.
[05:10.720 --> 05:15.180]  So each one by themselves will clear.
[05:15.180 --> 05:19.360]  So but once they went through, had they saw them both together, it would have never made
[05:19.360 --> 05:20.360]  it.
[05:20.360 --> 05:27.240]  I hope that makes sense and that's why they could put in three, four, five, nine notes
[05:27.240 --> 05:31.160]  all at the same time and the bank will clear all of them.
[05:31.160 --> 05:36.800]  Well, if she doesn't know anything about any of these, whatever they're doing with it,
[05:36.800 --> 05:40.880]  as long as there's not a default, the bank don't come after her.
[05:40.880 --> 05:42.240]  She's never going to know they're there.
[05:42.240 --> 05:44.800]  Does that sound correct, Carol?
[05:44.800 --> 05:49.240]  Yes, it sounds correct enough for me at this point.
[05:49.240 --> 05:54.480]  I found out what they were doing later, but at this point, it sounds just fine.
[05:54.480 --> 05:59.320]  So there were nine, as I was stating when I went to the courthouse and got this file
[05:59.320 --> 06:05.120]  on this elderly lady, very nice lady, she handed me this big file and I said, this is
[06:05.120 --> 06:06.520]  one foreclosure.
[06:06.520 --> 06:09.160]  She said, this is a lawyer's file.
[06:09.160 --> 06:11.000]  She said, I'm sorry about it, it's a mess.
[06:11.000 --> 06:15.080]  So I had my friend Linda from Peru with me and I'm like, just start making copies.
[06:15.080 --> 06:16.520]  I'm going to run to the bank.
[06:16.520 --> 06:21.480]  So I went to get more Federal Reserve notes and I ran back and I had shown her what to
[06:21.480 --> 06:25.240]  copy and then I grabbed more what I could of everything.
[06:25.240 --> 06:31.400]  So we copied everything and we left and I brought it home.
[06:31.400 --> 06:38.560]  Inside that file, the clerk of courts for that particular court, it was under, I believe,
[06:38.560 --> 06:39.560]  Judge Horn.
[06:39.560 --> 06:44.480]  That's the same judge who's foreclosing upon her here in the district court in Wayne County,
[06:44.480 --> 06:45.480]  Indiana.
[06:45.480 --> 06:51.120]  So underneath this case number under this undisclosed sheriff's deed for a foreclosure,
[06:51.120 --> 06:56.280]  mind you, it was supposed to be for a foreclosure that this Paul Stickel had originally purchased
[06:56.280 --> 06:57.600]  in 2006.
[06:57.600 --> 07:04.080]  My daughter bought the home in 2008, but they had backdated the title policy to 2006.
[07:04.080 --> 07:11.480]  It had a undisclosed sheriff's deed for this one property within it and it was Mears and
[07:11.480 --> 07:17.640]  Duchland Bank or Duchland Trust, I can't say that word right, versus Charles and Annette
[07:17.640 --> 07:18.640]  Scott.
[07:18.640 --> 07:23.120]  That was the reported owners of the property and they, this Paul Stickel had came in and
[07:23.120 --> 07:26.160]  bought the home for 16,000, I think.
[07:26.160 --> 07:31.440]  So anyway, it showed him buying this house, but I looked a little further and there was
[07:31.440 --> 07:38.120]  two checks from Mears in there to the clerk of courts.
[07:38.120 --> 07:40.440]  And they were attached to warrants.
[07:40.440 --> 07:44.200]  And I had been researching this property for a while, so I knew that the people that had
[07:44.200 --> 07:50.000]  lived there, Charles and Annette Scott, it appeared they'd been foreclosed on many times.
[07:50.000 --> 07:54.440]  So I looked at it and they had these warrants and I thought, wait a minute, I checked the
[07:54.440 --> 07:59.120]  warrants that were in the database for them and those were paid in 2003, so I did a double
[07:59.120 --> 08:05.560]  check and a triple check and sure enough, in 2006, supposedly, Mears came in to write
[08:05.560 --> 08:10.400]  checks on warrants that had already been paid in 2003.
[08:10.400 --> 08:12.400]  So I thought, well, that's about bogus.
[08:12.400 --> 08:19.000]  And another thing, what's Mears coming in doing, paying for this house with any kind
[08:19.000 --> 08:25.560]  of a check for warrants when it was a foreclosure and this guy reportedly bought it?
[08:25.560 --> 08:29.600]  So I'm seeing two transactions within this file right away.
[08:29.600 --> 08:30.600]  Hold on.
[08:30.600 --> 08:35.120]  What do you mean when you say warrants?
[08:35.120 --> 08:43.600]  One was a tax warrant and one was a weed lien, like a municipal, like a weed lien, like a
[08:43.600 --> 08:44.600]  warrant.
[08:44.600 --> 08:45.600]  That's what I mean.
[08:45.600 --> 08:46.600]  One was an actual tax warrant.
[08:46.600 --> 08:47.600]  Okay.
[08:47.600 --> 08:48.600]  Okay.
[08:48.600 --> 08:52.320]  These are like mechanics liens or a tax lien against the property.
[08:52.320 --> 08:53.320]  Yes.
[08:53.320 --> 08:55.120]  And they're paying off these liens.
[08:55.120 --> 08:56.120]  Oh, okay.
[08:56.120 --> 09:01.760]  That were already paid, Mears was, and they were paying, it was made, the checks were
[09:01.760 --> 09:06.760]  made out to their clerk of courts and Steve, those are on my photos on Facebook.
[09:06.760 --> 09:08.320]  They've been up for over a year.
[09:08.320 --> 09:14.840]  So the Mears wrote a check to the county clerk or to the city, yeah, the clerk of courts
[09:14.840 --> 09:15.840]  of Wayne County.
[09:15.840 --> 09:21.680]  They wrote two checks for these warrants that had already been paid, so they were false.
[09:21.680 --> 09:23.760]  So they were just coming in behind the scenes.
[09:23.760 --> 09:25.000]  This is where it comes key.
[09:25.000 --> 09:29.920]  The anchor date, which is Admiralty Law, think about it, anchor date.
[09:29.920 --> 09:34.120]  Remember at the land office, I said, this lady said, I'm sick of these bees doing this,
[09:34.120 --> 09:40.040]  so I'm going to do an anchor date search, and she pulled my daughter's property under
[09:40.040 --> 09:41.960]  a fourth property.
[09:41.960 --> 09:48.040]  Well, that fourth property that I was talking about, the land records office, was in that
[09:48.040 --> 09:53.080]  file, and it wasn't showing it, but it had actually been foreclosed upon on the year
[09:53.080 --> 09:54.080]  2009.
[09:54.080 --> 10:01.240]  And so here we are in a judicial state, and my daughter making her payments, being a good
[10:01.240 --> 10:06.680]  first-time homebuyer, doing exactly what she needed to do, working for the state of Indiana.
[10:06.680 --> 10:12.280]  My daughter making her payments, they foreclosed behind the scenes in this secret shadow court
[10:12.280 --> 10:13.280]  case.
[10:13.280 --> 10:17.080]  This is like the side A and side B of a vinyl record.
[10:17.080 --> 10:24.280]  That's what they did, because that property, the fourth property, 938 South 17th, where
[10:24.280 --> 10:29.760]  my daughter's property was tucked in like a land contract, it was foreclosed upon.
[10:29.760 --> 10:36.320]  And there was no need for any of that to be in there except for the amounts of the loans.
[10:36.320 --> 10:39.880]  And that's too complicated to explain, but I can tell you that I have the documents to
[10:39.880 --> 10:40.880]  prove what I'm saying.
[10:40.880 --> 10:47.640]  So they actually had nine properties within that judicial file that they didn't have any
[10:47.640 --> 10:50.480]  of them in the heading of the case at all.
[10:50.480 --> 10:54.560]  They were down in parentheses, and they'd say they tried to serve this Annette and Charles
[10:54.560 --> 10:56.080]  Scott at various addresses.
[10:56.080 --> 11:01.920]  So all nine of the properties are in parentheses, hidden down within the clerk of court notes.
[11:01.920 --> 11:03.440]  None of them are in the heading.
[11:03.440 --> 11:10.280]  The only thing in the heading was William and Betty Cross, and they are deceased persons.
[11:10.280 --> 11:15.880]  And remember the county attorney, his name is Ronald Cross, and those are his dead parents.
[11:15.880 --> 11:22.400]  And that is a trust that has about 2,900 properties in it.
[11:22.400 --> 11:26.920]  And also in this clerk's file, it states that the state of Indiana is a party.
[11:26.920 --> 11:31.400]  It's moved over right beside the mirrors and the other.
[11:31.400 --> 11:34.880]  And the party's under, it says parties, the judge is listed.
[11:34.880 --> 11:36.320]  He's a party.
[11:36.320 --> 11:41.240]  The same judge is foreclosing on her now.
[11:41.240 --> 11:45.800]  That wouldn't create a conflict of interest, would it, Randy?
[11:45.800 --> 11:48.920]  Only one you could drive a semi through.
[11:48.920 --> 11:49.920]  Yeah.
[11:49.920 --> 11:54.920]  I'm listening to this, and I'm thinking, where's the money?
[11:54.920 --> 11:55.920]  Yeah.
[11:55.920 --> 12:02.920]  You say there's nine property, just in your daughter's documents, you found nine properties.
[12:02.920 --> 12:12.200]  Okay, if there's nine properties, I'm presuming there are nine loans, nine liens, nine payments.
[12:12.200 --> 12:14.160]  Where's all this money coming from?
[12:14.160 --> 12:15.680]  Wait a minute.
[12:15.680 --> 12:24.320]  There's one more thing that there should be nine of, mortgage insurance, derivative contracts.
[12:24.320 --> 12:25.320]  Yes.
[12:25.320 --> 12:31.400]  And that's where the evaluating of the insurance policy is coming in.
[12:31.400 --> 12:33.480]  And I can even go a step further.
[12:33.480 --> 12:38.400]  After I did all that, I went ahead and the clerk had notes in there where she had taken
[12:38.400 --> 12:40.800]  the cause numbers and parsed them out.
[12:40.800 --> 12:46.200]  So like, it would be, it would name your county and the court, it was in district or circuit.
[12:46.200 --> 12:54.260]  So it was 89D02-1206-MF, or mortgage foreclosure, dash 0025.
[12:54.260 --> 13:00.720]  She had parsed those numbers out on those warrants that were already prepaid, so they
[13:00.720 --> 13:03.640]  didn't have any effect except to try to cover themselves.
[13:03.640 --> 13:07.720]  I just happened to study it so hard because this is my daughter, I'm trying to, I'm looking
[13:07.720 --> 13:13.600]  at this one, what have they done to my child and my grandchildren, what's happened to them?
[13:13.600 --> 13:15.400]  So she had parsed all those out.
[13:15.400 --> 13:19.480]  So what I did was I just, I stuck with the original three properties.
[13:19.480 --> 13:22.200]  When I opened up that white file, I just stuck with those.
[13:22.200 --> 13:23.760]  I thought I'm not getting into this.
[13:23.760 --> 13:28.040]  I'm just going to go ahead and go get those three properties and I'm going to get all
[13:28.040 --> 13:30.720]  the loans and all the deeds to them.
[13:30.720 --> 13:36.200]  So I went down and got them all, I put them in order and those three loans tell this story
[13:36.200 --> 13:38.200]  like you would not believe.
[13:38.200 --> 13:44.200]  My daughter, when she purchased her home at 422 Randolph Street from a Charles and Annette
[13:44.200 --> 13:50.640]  Scott reportedly, and she purchased this and she purchased it from First Horizon, but yet
[13:50.640 --> 13:56.560]  within 15 days, they assigned it immediately to U.S. Bank, immediately.
[13:56.560 --> 14:00.520]  So she was paying U.S. Bank, she didn't, she just thought she owed the money.
[14:00.520 --> 14:05.280]  She didn't realize the fraud, so she was doing what she thought she was supposed to do.
[14:05.280 --> 14:09.980]  So when I looked at those three properties together, 422 Randolph Street, the one my
[14:09.980 --> 14:16.480]  daughter bought, 4393 State Route 35, the one she didn't know about, and the 1007 State
[14:16.480 --> 14:21.160]  Route 38, which is a county property, those three properties, I pulled all three of the
[14:21.160 --> 14:26.600]  loans together and it brought in U.S. Bank and it weaves through there just like a figure
[14:26.600 --> 14:32.560]  A. It goes in and out where U.S. Bank comes in and out and you can buy anchor dates.
[14:32.560 --> 14:38.040]  So in January the 21st, she made her first offer on that house and they said they didn't
[14:38.040 --> 14:40.960]  accept it, that went to the county property.
[14:40.960 --> 14:47.640]  Then on February the 5th, she signed her second offer, that went to her property and the other
[14:47.640 --> 14:48.640]  property.
[14:48.640 --> 14:55.800]  Okay, so you got the county attorney, city attorney, a couple of judges, probably somebody
[14:55.800 --> 15:01.000]  in the sheriff's office, the title company, the mortgage company, everybody all in collusion
[15:01.000 --> 15:02.120]  here.
[15:02.120 --> 15:08.920]  Even if you got some airtight evidence, who would you take it to?
[15:08.920 --> 15:13.400]  Everybody that you would take these issues to are in on the deal.
[15:13.400 --> 15:17.880]  It gets even worse than that, remember the, I forgot to tell you, on the back of those
[15:17.880 --> 15:22.560]  real estate purchase agreements that are really the master promissory notes.
[15:22.560 --> 15:30.640]  There were three promissory notes within the file and they're called L-108 and there's,
[15:30.640 --> 15:34.280]  these are pink and blue, these are different, these are yellow and pink copies, these aren't
[15:34.280 --> 15:39.360]  white copies, these are the originals because this guy sent her the crook file by mistake
[15:39.360 --> 15:41.360]  and she never looked at it.
[15:41.360 --> 15:48.320]  So here's a yellow for drawer and pink, yellow for drawer and pink for office.
[15:48.320 --> 15:53.720]  So I have the yellow ones I think, I'm pretty sure it's yellow, it might be the pink ones
[15:53.720 --> 15:58.240]  but anyway it's one of those two, there's not a copy for the customer because the borrowers
[15:58.240 --> 16:03.280]  are the signatures, the signatories are never supposed to know about these international
[16:03.280 --> 16:04.280]  promissory notes.
[16:04.280 --> 16:10.320]  Yeah, so okay, if you've got international promissory notes then that creates a jurisdictional
[16:10.320 --> 16:11.440]  issue.
[16:11.440 --> 16:17.080]  I would think, now don't quote me on this, but I would think that the only place that
[16:17.080 --> 16:21.600]  you could take issues of this magnitude to would be the Department of Justice.
[16:21.600 --> 16:24.160]  Randy, would you agree or disagree?
[16:24.160 --> 16:29.440]  Well, yeah, if you're making criminal accusations.
[16:29.440 --> 16:30.720]  Well what else could it be?
[16:30.720 --> 16:34.000]  Well, I mean, if you're trying to stop the foreclosure.
[16:34.000 --> 16:37.000]  And that's what I did.
[16:37.000 --> 16:45.320]  If your daughter purchased all of these properties, she might want to sell them.
[16:45.320 --> 16:52.960]  I hear the music in the background folks, we're going to break 512-646-1984 is the number
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[19:53.600 --> 19:58.600]  Welcome back to Rule Law Radio, folks. Just about the time you've heard it all,
[19:58.600 --> 20:03.600]  you hear something you've never heard before. We're speaking with Carol.
[20:03.600 --> 20:08.600]  Carol, good heavens, can it get any worse?
[20:08.600 --> 20:15.600]  Over the break, we were discussing who do you take this grievance to,
[20:15.600 --> 20:20.600]  and we've learned that you've been to everybody but the Pope.
[20:20.600 --> 20:25.600]  That may be. No, I haven't.
[20:25.600 --> 20:34.600]  Well, there's the Office of Thrift Supervision, the OCC, the DOJ, the AG.
[20:34.600 --> 20:39.600]  You've been to all of them, and you're not getting any traction.
[20:39.600 --> 20:44.600]  As a matter of fact, they send the case back to the guys who perpetrated these
[20:44.600 --> 20:51.600]  — I'm going to go out on lemons and say crimes — to investigate the crimes
[20:51.600 --> 20:54.600]  that they've committed. Now, that's kind of like going to internal affairs
[20:54.600 --> 20:57.600]  at the PD when you get beat up by a drunk cop.
[20:57.600 --> 20:59.600]  Right.
[20:59.600 --> 21:03.600]  You know, the fox is watching the hen house here.
[21:03.600 --> 21:08.600]  Well, I wanted to let the viewers know this especially.
[21:08.600 --> 21:11.600]  One of the things that I noticed was my daughter signed, supposedly,
[21:11.600 --> 21:17.600]  for the closing on 3-14 of 2008, and I don't pay attention to the back years
[21:17.600 --> 21:20.600]  because under UCC code, as long as they have a check
[21:20.600 --> 21:25.600]  and it's got everything written out, they really don't have to go by the date so much.
[21:25.600 --> 21:31.600]  So I found in this file, this clerk's file, which I'm alleging is a judge's file,
[21:31.600 --> 21:34.600]  because I went back up to get more records, and the clerk said,
[21:34.600 --> 21:38.600]  you'll not get back in our room again, and I said, what did I do?
[21:38.600 --> 21:40.600]  And she said, you've got the judge's file.
[21:40.600 --> 21:43.600]  I said, well, thank you for telling me that. I didn't know that.
[21:43.600 --> 21:47.600]  I didn't know it was a judge's file.
[21:47.600 --> 21:52.600]  So I think that they were, what had happened was these three properties,
[21:52.600 --> 21:59.600]  the people's last name were Tony S. Bond, Charles and Annette Scott on one property,
[21:59.600 --> 22:05.600]  Tony S. Bond on one property, and Leslie K. Me Happy Lane on another property.
[22:05.600 --> 22:11.600]  The child support prosecuting attorney is named Leslie or Stacey Leslie Lane.
[22:11.600 --> 22:17.600]  So we've got a county attorney, a city attorney, and the child support prosecuting attorney.
[22:17.600 --> 22:23.600]  You do have these physical documents in a very safe place, not on your property.
[22:23.600 --> 22:24.600]  Is that correct?
[22:24.600 --> 22:25.600]  Correct.
[22:25.600 --> 22:26.600]  Good.
[22:26.600 --> 22:32.600]  Yes, they're safe, and I have shared everything with the title company since then.
[22:32.600 --> 22:36.600]  But what they do is they took my, I found out that they had actually,
[22:36.600 --> 22:41.600]  I looked in the electronic records, DocsPop, it's our local third party technology provider.
[22:41.600 --> 22:47.600]  The government hires those to keep at an arm's length transaction to escape liability.
[22:47.600 --> 22:49.600]  This guy does a really good job.
[22:49.600 --> 22:55.600]  There was a Chandler S. Bond. So remember I said Tony Scott Bond.
[22:55.600 --> 23:00.600]  Scott Bond married a Rachel Y. Bond, which is my daughter's stolen identity,
[23:00.600 --> 23:05.600]  and right away they had a child that appeared out of nowhere named Chandler Scott Bond.
[23:05.600 --> 23:08.600]  That's my oldest grandson. They just changed his last name.
[23:08.600 --> 23:14.600]  The IRS does not require a birthday check or a name check,
[23:14.600 --> 23:18.600]  but they do require a valid last five of the social.
[23:18.600 --> 23:24.600]  They are registering my grandchildren to work for unregistered LLCs,
[23:24.600 --> 23:30.600]  and in my city, they're supposed to be unincorporated.
[23:30.600 --> 23:36.600]  The City of Richmond Police Department Traffic Division is operating and trading on Wall Street
[23:36.600 --> 23:44.600]  under the Richmond City Parks Department Highland Heights Golf Course and unregistered LLC.
[23:44.600 --> 23:47.600]  God almighty.
[23:47.600 --> 23:51.600]  Have you ever considered moving out of Richmond?
[23:51.600 --> 23:58.600]  Well, I really have not at this point because we were kind of stuck.
[23:58.600 --> 24:00.600]  What happened was the original complaint came in,
[24:00.600 --> 24:04.600]  and my daughter went ahead and put her answer in with counter complaints,
[24:04.600 --> 24:08.600]  and I had her do her affidavit based on her personal knowledge.
[24:08.600 --> 24:12.600]  So we got all that into the record. We named all the relevant parties,
[24:12.600 --> 24:16.600]  and that's where it stood until we hired an attorney because the clerk kept telling her,
[24:16.600 --> 24:19.600]  you need to get an attorney. The judge is getting upset.
[24:19.600 --> 24:23.600]  I didn't know at the time that that doesn't matter what the judge is doing.
[24:23.600 --> 24:29.600]  I was scared because they have since, my two grandsons, they're little, they're 12 and 9.
[24:29.600 --> 24:32.600]  The 9-year-old, the police came to the school and tried to,
[24:32.600 --> 24:37.600]  they arrested him and let him loose last year for getting in a verbal fight with another boy.
[24:37.600 --> 24:41.600]  They actually arrested him and then released him right away.
[24:41.600 --> 24:42.600]  Nine years old.
[24:42.600 --> 24:45.600]  Well, they're messing with him because of what's happened here.
[24:45.600 --> 24:50.600]  Sure, that's what I think. That's a shot across your bow.
[24:50.600 --> 24:53.600]  So anyway, we hired this attorney,
[24:53.600 --> 24:59.600]  and I was doing the insurance claim with the title company behind the scenes,
[24:59.600 --> 25:03.600]  and I didn't hire the attorney for anything about the insurance.
[25:03.600 --> 25:07.600]  I hired him for the wrongful foreclosure, and I made that clear to him.
[25:07.600 --> 25:12.600]  Well, the insurance agency guy in Florida, Fidelity Title,
[25:12.600 --> 25:17.600]  accidentally sent me a letter, and it was not the one I was working with.
[25:17.600 --> 25:19.600]  This guy sent a letter, and I wrote him back.
[25:19.600 --> 25:20.600]  I said, what are you talking about?
[25:20.600 --> 25:23.600]  He goes, oh, I'm sorry, I'm representing the lenders.
[25:23.600 --> 25:27.600]  And I said, what lenders? That's plural. I thought there was only one.
[25:27.600 --> 25:30.600]  And he said, well, you'll have to talk to the attorney.
[25:30.600 --> 25:34.600]  I'm not her attorney, and I don't know who you are.
[25:34.600 --> 25:37.600]  I said, you're the one that wrote me, so somebody had given him my email.
[25:37.600 --> 25:41.600]  And he accidentally wrote me and said that he was the lender.
[25:41.600 --> 25:46.600]  He was representing the lenders from already tendered claims.
[25:46.600 --> 25:54.600]  So I called up the attorney that I hired, and I wrote him.
[25:54.600 --> 25:56.600]  I made sure I documented everything.
[25:56.600 --> 25:59.600]  I said, I didn't hire you for this. I hired you for the wrongful foreclosure.
[25:59.600 --> 26:03.600]  I'm the one handling this insurance side of it. I didn't hire you for that.
[26:03.600 --> 26:05.600]  I want you to move for a dismissal.
[26:05.600 --> 26:09.600]  Well, he refused to listen to me.
[26:09.600 --> 26:11.600]  Malpractice.
[26:11.600 --> 26:16.600]  Well, that's where Randy's show came in very handy, because I'm working on it, Randy.
[26:16.600 --> 26:18.600]  His show came in handy all the way around.
[26:18.600 --> 26:24.600]  I listened to Randy, and I set for four or five shows, the same show,
[26:24.600 --> 26:26.600]  and I wrote down everything he said.
[26:26.600 --> 26:30.600]  So in the beginning of all this, I thought, he's saying this is what they do.
[26:30.600 --> 26:35.600]  So I got backdated calendars from the year 2006 since they had backdated it,
[26:35.600 --> 26:42.600]  and I went 90 days back, and then I went 180 days back, and I did a cycle.
[26:42.600 --> 26:46.600]  So for all of these three loans, all of the anchor dates are matching up.
[26:46.600 --> 26:48.600]  So I have it proven.
[26:48.600 --> 26:52.600]  But little good is it doing me, because I can get no one to do anything,
[26:52.600 --> 26:54.600]  because you know what I think I found?
[26:54.600 --> 27:00.600]  I think that I found what our government might be doing in collusion with these folks.
[27:00.600 --> 27:05.600]  They might just be, this might be the Federal Reserve.
[27:05.600 --> 27:07.600]  I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
[27:07.600 --> 27:13.600]  I'm going to say it's the Federal Reserve, because one of the properties that was later discovered,
[27:13.600 --> 27:17.600]  this is in addition to the 9th, there was a property,
[27:17.600 --> 27:23.600]  the 4393 State Route 35 had an address in it, and so the Treasurer,
[27:23.600 --> 27:27.600]  the Clerk of Treasury looked it up for me, and she said this has to be it,
[27:27.600 --> 27:32.600]  and it had the name Michelle R instead of Rachel Michelle, and a different last name,
[27:32.600 --> 27:35.600]  and I held it for about a week or two, and I got to looking at it,
[27:35.600 --> 27:40.600]  and it had a batch and a sequence number, and this is my daughter's still in identity, right,
[27:40.600 --> 27:44.600]  under a brand new 10th property, and it was for a commercial property,
[27:44.600 --> 27:51.600]  quite a substantial amount, and it said LB0421, sequence number 61.
[27:51.600 --> 27:52.600]  Guess what?
[27:52.600 --> 27:56.600]  That's her biological mother's birth date and birth year.
[27:56.600 --> 27:57.600]  Oh.
[27:57.600 --> 28:04.600]  On her stolen identity and a backwards tax scam under the CAFR and TIF funds.
[28:04.600 --> 28:05.600]  How nice.
[28:05.600 --> 28:07.600]  That's about enough, isn't it?
[28:07.600 --> 28:10.600]  Yeah, you would think.
[28:10.600 --> 28:12.600]  Well, it wasn't quite all there was to it.
[28:12.600 --> 28:16.600]  The clerk's notes, remember I told you she had parsed out the cause numbers?
[28:16.600 --> 28:17.600]  Mm-hmm.
[28:17.600 --> 28:22.600]  Well, the only way that the clerk enters information in our city is to enter it
[28:22.600 --> 28:26.600]  into DocsPop, the third-party technology provider.
[28:26.600 --> 28:30.600]  She had parsed out the last three digits of the cause number,
[28:30.600 --> 28:33.600]  so I put those into the name search only because DocsPop said
[28:33.600 --> 28:36.600]  do not ever enter digits into the name search, and I thought,
[28:36.600 --> 28:38.600]  well, I'm going to do it because they're telling me not to, right?
[28:38.600 --> 28:39.600]  It's like a child.
[28:39.600 --> 28:40.600]  Don't do that.
[28:40.600 --> 28:41.600]  There you go.
[28:41.600 --> 28:43.600]  Well, I'm going to do it anyway.
[28:43.600 --> 28:51.600]  So I put in those digits, and thousands and thousands of warrants come up.
[28:51.600 --> 28:53.600]  So I called the IRS.
[28:53.600 --> 28:55.600]  I talked to a lady named Kathy Coctor.
[28:55.600 --> 28:58.600]  Actually, she called me in September of last year
[28:58.600 --> 29:00.600]  because she had been investigating for quite a while.
[29:00.600 --> 29:04.600]  She goes, Carol, give me your youngest grandson's Social Security number.
[29:04.600 --> 29:07.600]  Because I had made a claim, I knew I didn't lean to a lawyer for that,
[29:07.600 --> 29:11.600]  so I had made a claim because I had some other history on these people
[29:11.600 --> 29:17.600]  that are involved, and so I gave her his Social Security number.
[29:17.600 --> 29:18.600]  She said he has 97 warrants,
[29:18.600 --> 29:21.600]  and I can't remember if it was 47 or 49.
[29:21.600 --> 29:24.600]  She said 47 or 49 are felonies.
[29:24.600 --> 29:28.600]  Those are worth $400,000 each on the international banking,
[29:28.600 --> 29:30.600]  you know, on the warrants side of it.
[29:30.600 --> 29:33.600]  That's how much they're worth, $400,000 each.
[29:33.600 --> 29:37.600]  And the misdemeanors are worth $100,000 under my youngest grandson.
[29:37.600 --> 29:40.600]  You ever feel like you've been sold up the river?
[29:40.600 --> 29:42.600]  Folks, we're fixing to go to break again.
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[33:47.600 --> 33:54.600]  This story is, I don't want to sound cliché, but it's riveting.
[33:54.600 --> 34:00.600]  I've always known that the fraud runs very deep.
[34:00.600 --> 34:02.600]  I just didn't know how deep.
[34:02.600 --> 34:07.600]  And this is beyond my imagination.
[34:07.600 --> 34:14.600]  Carol, I congratulate you for digging into this, for your insight, your intuition.
[34:14.600 --> 34:23.600]  This may be a lot bigger than anybody can really wrap their mind around.
[34:23.600 --> 34:28.600]  This goes to selling out the country itself.
[34:28.600 --> 34:33.600]  I mean, it's not possible that this is isolated to your area.
[34:33.600 --> 34:37.600]  What I'm thinking is that if this is a modus operandi,
[34:37.600 --> 34:47.600]  then it could very well be that everybody in this country who has a mortgage is equally affected.
[34:47.600 --> 34:48.600]  Yes.
[34:48.600 --> 34:53.600]  Randy?
[34:53.600 --> 34:56.600]  Push mute button, Randy.
[34:56.600 --> 34:58.600]  She's not muted.
[34:58.600 --> 34:59.600]  No, yours.
[34:59.600 --> 35:02.600]  Oh.
[35:02.600 --> 35:09.600]  Somebody keeps sneaking up behind Randy and muting his mic.
[35:09.600 --> 35:10.600]  I'm sorry.
[35:10.600 --> 35:13.600]  I was trying to get my screen up and I missed that part.
[35:13.600 --> 35:20.600]  Well, I was, okay, let's, we've identified the problem and my God, what a problem.
[35:20.600 --> 35:24.600]  Now we need to find solution.
[35:24.600 --> 35:27.600]  That's what we're here for.
[35:27.600 --> 35:33.600]  We need more about, we need to understand what it is they're doing.
[35:33.600 --> 35:35.600]  Where's the money?
[35:35.600 --> 35:39.600]  I can tell you what they're doing if I have it.
[35:39.600 --> 35:43.600]  I really hate to take up any more, but I do need to tell this.
[35:43.600 --> 35:49.600]  Back in 1999, Metropolitan Life Insurance Company demutualized,
[35:49.600 --> 35:54.600]  and when it demutualized, it developed a program called the Buy and Sell and Sell and Buy,
[35:54.600 --> 36:00.600]  or Purchase and Sale, Sale and Purchase program for the stockholders
[36:00.600 --> 36:06.600]  that were going to be ousted from the private Metropolitan Life Insurance Company.
[36:06.600 --> 36:10.600]  They developed a tool called the Closed Block, and it's all in testimony.
[36:10.600 --> 36:12.600]  They've already testified to it.
[36:12.600 --> 36:17.600]  They did this in unison with Goldman Sachs and I think McLean Brothers.
[36:17.600 --> 36:22.600]  So they did testimonies before the insurance, New York Insurance Commissioner,
[36:22.600 --> 36:26.600]  who they later elevated to a job with the Port Authority,
[36:26.600 --> 36:29.600]  and he ended up getting killed in that building in 9-1-1,
[36:29.600 --> 36:33.600]  and I hate to hear that about anybody, but anyway, that's what happened to him.
[36:33.600 --> 36:37.600]  But he ended up letting them come in and do this demutualization.
[36:37.600 --> 36:44.600]  At the time, they held $16 billion industrial life insurance policies,
[36:44.600 --> 36:49.600]  and we're talking about before the Bankruptcy Act of 1933, and they testified to this.
[36:49.600 --> 36:54.600]  They came in, and this man that owned Goldman, that was part of Goldman, he testified.
[36:54.600 --> 36:58.600]  So all three of them kind of like tag-teamed the testimony,
[36:58.600 --> 37:02.600]  and they said that they were going under insurance rule 7312.
[37:02.600 --> 37:04.600]  They were going to demutualize.
[37:04.600 --> 37:06.600]  Well, the one from Goldman Sachs came in, and he said,
[37:06.600 --> 37:12.600]  we're going to create a livestock company, and we're going to go under 7312.
[37:12.600 --> 37:13.600]  He took it out of context.
[37:13.600 --> 37:18.600]  Now, the attorneys for this big bunch of people, Metropolitan Life Insurance Company,
[37:18.600 --> 37:23.600]  ran by John Benmashi, who later became the AIG CEO,
[37:23.600 --> 37:28.600]  they came in and corrected the testimony, but they let that guy's testimony stand.
[37:28.600 --> 37:33.600]  So he actually testified that they were going to start a livestock company,
[37:33.600 --> 37:36.600]  and it was going to come in under rule 7312.
[37:36.600 --> 37:41.600]  So I went and looked up 7312, and I got into, right away,
[37:41.600 --> 37:47.600]  it brought up a cattle code from the year 1929, and it had 7312 in parentheses.
[37:47.600 --> 37:49.600]  It was in an old Google book.
[37:49.600 --> 37:53.600]  And I can take anybody to it, and you go to it, and you curse down,
[37:53.600 --> 38:03.600]  and 7312, before your very eyes, the 7312 goes away, and LIBE comes up.
[38:03.600 --> 38:07.600]  And it's a cattle code that's updated daily, and they're still using it.
[38:07.600 --> 38:08.600]  And guess what?
[38:08.600 --> 38:09.600]  We really are cows.
[38:09.600 --> 38:10.600]  We're cattle.
[38:10.600 --> 38:11.600]  We're cattle.
[38:11.600 --> 38:13.600]  They're trading us like cows.
[38:13.600 --> 38:18.600]  The Interpolitan Life Insurance Company, the mutualization, has been selling
[38:18.600 --> 38:23.600]  and enslaving our nation in unison with certain key government officials,
[38:23.600 --> 38:26.600]  and that's what I put in, or my daughter put into court papers,
[38:26.600 --> 38:31.600]  and they have not answered to date, and they were properly served in summons
[38:31.600 --> 38:36.600]  in December 2012, and they have not answered to date,
[38:36.600 --> 38:39.600]  because they know that what I'm saying is true.
[38:39.600 --> 38:42.600]  And the reason I know about that is because I worked for a rather large company,
[38:42.600 --> 38:47.600]  and I was an investor in Metropolitan Life Insurance Company.
[38:47.600 --> 38:49.600]  So I was familiar with them.
[38:49.600 --> 38:53.600]  When I found the backdating, I thought, hmm, the buyer becomes a seller.
[38:53.600 --> 38:56.600]  Oh, and yeah, they're going to marry her off to this guy and this guy.
[38:56.600 --> 38:58.600]  She hasn't been married.
[38:58.600 --> 39:00.600]  They're going to marry her off, and she's going to purchase this property
[39:00.600 --> 39:04.600]  and this property and this little three-ring thing they got going on.
[39:04.600 --> 39:06.600]  It's called the magic hat trick in accounting.
[39:06.600 --> 39:10.600]  They're going to marry her off, and nobody's going to be any the wiser,
[39:10.600 --> 39:13.600]  because they got that little window that you talked about, Randy,
[39:13.600 --> 39:20.600]  where nobody knows what they're doing with that 80-20 split.
[39:20.600 --> 39:21.600]  Wow.
[39:21.600 --> 39:23.600]  And that's it, and it's in testimony.
[39:23.600 --> 39:28.600]  I don't have to look far when I know the facts, and I have the testimony.
[39:28.600 --> 39:30.600]  I have those screenshots.
[39:30.600 --> 39:32.600]  They're on my Facebook page, Steve.
[39:32.600 --> 39:34.600]  Nobody pays attention to my Facebook page.
[39:34.600 --> 39:37.600]  It's in the photos.
[39:37.600 --> 39:43.600]  This is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see Joe Esquivel take apart.
[39:43.600 --> 39:48.600]  Well, yeah, that's what I said over the break.
[39:48.600 --> 39:53.600]  I'm getting a message from someone on Skype saying 25 trillion tangible market value
[39:53.600 --> 39:59.600]  versus 240 trillion intangible value.
[39:59.600 --> 40:03.600]  Then it climbs up to 700 trillion.
[40:03.600 --> 40:11.600]  Now, if that's not selling the country out, what else is?
[40:11.600 --> 40:13.600]  This is crazy, folks.
[40:13.600 --> 40:15.600]  700 trillion?
[40:15.600 --> 40:18.600]  That's worth more than the whole planet.
[40:18.600 --> 40:19.600]  That's right.
[40:19.600 --> 40:22.600]  Yeah, but you're talking about intangible value.
[40:22.600 --> 40:24.600]  This is commercial paper.
[40:24.600 --> 40:27.600]  This is not gold, silver coin.
[40:27.600 --> 40:29.600]  This is not even Federal Reserve notes.
[40:29.600 --> 40:34.600]  This is digits on a computer.
[40:34.600 --> 40:37.600]  They actually talk about, they talk about in some of their clauses, though,
[40:37.600 --> 40:40.600]  that they're going to trade it in for gold and silver.
[40:40.600 --> 40:41.600]  And guess what?
[40:41.600 --> 40:44.600]  There's not that much gold and silver on this planet.
[40:44.600 --> 40:46.600]  Oh, wow.
[40:46.600 --> 40:48.600]  That's what I'm saying.
[40:48.600 --> 40:51.600]  No wonder I got lawyers trying to get into things behind the scenes
[40:51.600 --> 40:53.600]  because that's been happening here as well lately.
[40:53.600 --> 40:57.600]  I ended up having to run a few of those off that I've caught on other things.
[40:57.600 --> 41:01.600]  And I'm like, you know, attorneys back off here
[41:01.600 --> 41:03.600]  because I know what's up now, right?
[41:03.600 --> 41:06.600]  They're not operating in honor.
[41:06.600 --> 41:07.600]  Yeah.
[41:07.600 --> 41:10.600]  Well, I'm glad that you came on the air and made this public.
[41:10.600 --> 41:12.600]  Watch your back.
[41:12.600 --> 41:13.600]  I have been.
[41:13.600 --> 41:15.600]  Watch your back real close.
[41:15.600 --> 41:16.600]  I have been.
[41:16.600 --> 41:18.600]  Because this is beyond huge.
[41:18.600 --> 41:25.600]  Well, I've been sitting here since 2012.
[41:25.600 --> 41:28.600]  You know, I've already won because I'm telling the truth.
[41:28.600 --> 41:31.600]  And if people can find it, all you have to do is look for the backdating.
[41:31.600 --> 41:35.600]  And don't think that those backdates and those misspelled names,
[41:35.600 --> 41:36.600]  that they're a mistake.
[41:36.600 --> 41:37.600]  They're not.
[41:37.600 --> 41:39.600]  They're not harmless error.
[41:39.600 --> 41:42.600]  Those are real things that they're doing on purpose.
[41:42.600 --> 41:45.600]  No lawyer can spell your name wrong in the heading of the document.
[41:45.600 --> 41:50.600]  Then down in the text, they call you, I'm Carol Keene, K-E-I-H-N,
[41:50.600 --> 41:52.600]  but then they call me Carol Klein.
[41:52.600 --> 41:55.600]  And then in the end, they call me Miss Klein.
[41:55.600 --> 41:58.600]  That's kind of like a title of nobility in their introverted,
[41:58.600 --> 42:01.600]  messed up world that they're using.
[42:01.600 --> 42:07.600]  I really do believe it does lead clear over to the Vatican.
[42:07.600 --> 42:11.600]  I think it's the, you know, that batch number and that sequence number,
[42:11.600 --> 42:15.600]  you know where I got that from, from the Treasury Department window
[42:15.600 --> 42:18.600]  at my local county records.
[42:18.600 --> 42:19.600]  Wow.
[42:19.600 --> 42:24.600]  So where did they come up with the LB0421, which is my birthday?
[42:24.600 --> 42:25.600]  That means light birth.
[42:25.600 --> 42:32.600]  And the sequence is in a decadal format, 61,
[42:32.600 --> 42:35.600]  which means they're bringing in the census and they're rolling all this back
[42:35.600 --> 42:37.600]  in their little backwards bankruptcy.
[42:37.600 --> 42:38.600]  Oh, I forgot that too.
[42:38.600 --> 42:42.600]  I found bankruptcy papers in there for all those properties.
[42:42.600 --> 42:45.600]  And the guy who was putting the bankruptcy in, Charles Scott,
[42:45.600 --> 42:49.600]  it turns out, it said that Charles Scott was Annette Scott's attorney.
[42:49.600 --> 42:52.600]  Charles Scott is a guy named Chuck Hyde,
[42:52.600 --> 42:56.600]  who is an attorney who's been guilty of 29 counts of fraud.
[42:56.600 --> 43:01.600]  So every bankruptcy entered was from him on every property.
[43:01.600 --> 43:04.600]  That's bankruptcy fraud, right?
[43:04.600 --> 43:07.600]  You would think, yeah.
[43:07.600 --> 43:08.600]  Wow.
[43:08.600 --> 43:13.600]  You might look at taking that to the bankruptcy trustees for those bankruptcies.
[43:13.600 --> 43:17.600]  They're probably in on it, Randy.
[43:17.600 --> 43:19.600]  There are state actors.
[43:19.600 --> 43:24.600]  I called up a guy and I called up, what I did was I ended up calling up Rich Delmar
[43:24.600 --> 43:28.600]  with the Department of Treasury, and he is the Inspector General's head camp.
[43:28.600 --> 43:30.600]  I just called the Inspector General.
[43:30.600 --> 43:31.600]  I didn't mean to reach anybody.
[43:31.600 --> 43:33.600]  I figured I wouldn't, but he answered the phone.
[43:33.600 --> 43:37.600]  And I said, would it interest you to know that state actors, I said,
[43:37.600 --> 43:42.600]  are actually ripping you guys off for the federal funds you're giving to everybody?
[43:42.600 --> 43:46.600]  And he said, tell me more.
[43:46.600 --> 43:48.600]  We'll be right back here after this break, folks.
[43:48.600 --> 43:51.600]  512-646-1984.
[43:51.600 --> 43:54.600]  And I know I keep putting out that number, and I promise we'll get to the callers.
[43:54.600 --> 43:55.600]  Stay tuned.
[43:55.600 --> 44:02.600]  We'll be right back.
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[46:52.600 --> 47:21.600]  Welcome back to Rule of Law, folks.
[47:21.600 --> 47:23.600]  We're talking to Carol.
[47:23.600 --> 47:29.600]  Man, what a story.
[47:29.600 --> 47:32.600]  Carol, thank you very much for coming on tonight.
[47:32.600 --> 47:38.600]  We've been talking over the break, folks, and this story is so big.
[47:38.600 --> 47:44.600]  I'm going to encourage, now we're going to have Carol back on here in a couple of weeks
[47:44.600 --> 47:51.600]  to get a more succinct overview of the situation unbroken.
[47:51.600 --> 47:56.600]  I'm going to encourage all of our listeners that once this archive is posted to the website,
[47:56.600 --> 48:07.600]  please grab the links to the show and put this on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, everywhere.
[48:07.600 --> 48:10.600]  Get this out in the social media.
[48:10.600 --> 48:12.600]  This is very important.
[48:12.600 --> 48:14.600]  Number one, it's a huge story.
[48:14.600 --> 48:21.600]  Number two, Carol needs the notoriety for her safety.
[48:21.600 --> 48:23.600]  There is danger in the shadows.
[48:23.600 --> 48:25.600]  There is safety in the light.
[48:25.600 --> 48:28.600]  And what I mean by the light is going public.
[48:28.600 --> 48:30.600]  Get this out.
[48:30.600 --> 48:33.600]  Make it go viral.
[48:33.600 --> 48:38.600]  The only thing that can protect this woman is for everybody in this country to know her story
[48:38.600 --> 48:43.600]  and know what she's got.
[48:43.600 --> 48:44.600]  Carol.
[48:44.600 --> 48:45.600]  Thank you.
[48:45.600 --> 48:51.600]  Again, if anybody wants to listen to our show on identity fraud, it's Two Moms on a Burrow
[48:51.600 --> 48:56.600]  and it's on Blog Talk, and then we have a Facebook page as well.
[48:56.600 --> 48:57.600]  Excellent.
[48:57.600 --> 48:59.600]  How do we get to Blog Talk?
[48:59.600 --> 49:07.600]  Well, you would just put in Two Moms on a Burrow, or you can just go to Blog Talk.
[49:07.600 --> 49:08.600]  Is it blogtalk.com?
[49:08.600 --> 49:10.600]  You can go to my Facebook page.
[49:10.600 --> 49:13.600]  Yeah, blogtalk.com.
[49:13.600 --> 49:24.600]  And it's Two Moms on a Burrow, no spaces, T-W-O-M-O-M-S-O-N-B-O-R-O-U-G-H.
[49:24.600 --> 49:25.600]  Excellent.
[49:25.600 --> 49:26.600]  Excellent.
[49:26.600 --> 49:27.600]  Thank you.
[49:27.600 --> 49:28.600]  Thank you, guys.
[49:28.600 --> 49:29.600]  I appreciate it.
[49:29.600 --> 49:30.600]  Thank you for coming on.
[49:30.600 --> 49:31.600]  Thank you.
[49:31.600 --> 49:33.600]  Looking forward to having you back.
[49:33.600 --> 49:34.600]  I'll be here.
[49:34.600 --> 49:35.600]  Bye.
[49:35.600 --> 49:36.600]  Bye-bye.
[49:36.600 --> 49:37.600]  You want to pick it up, Steve?
[49:37.600 --> 49:38.600]  You want me to?
[49:38.600 --> 49:39.600]  Sure.
[49:39.600 --> 49:40.600]  Sure.
[49:40.600 --> 49:41.600]  Let's go to the telephones.
[49:41.600 --> 49:49.600]  Steve in New York, you've been waiting for quite some time, and I do appreciate that.
[49:49.600 --> 49:50.600]  Wow.
[49:50.600 --> 49:55.600]  We don't get calls like that very often, but when we do, we need to pay very close attention.
[49:55.600 --> 50:02.600]  And note to Tim in California, if you call back, we'll get you right on air.
[50:02.600 --> 50:05.600]  Steve in New York, what you got tonight?
[50:05.600 --> 50:08.600]  Well, good evening there, Steve.
[50:08.600 --> 50:10.600]  Is Brandy still awake?
[50:10.600 --> 50:12.600]  Brandy's still awake?
[50:12.600 --> 50:13.600]  I think so.
[50:13.600 --> 50:14.600]  Okay.
[50:14.600 --> 50:15.600]  Okay.
[50:15.600 --> 50:19.600]  Well, what I have, I guess, is rather pedestrian after your last call.
[50:19.600 --> 50:27.600]  Let me say that my background is kind of in domestic relations, not in real property issues.
[50:27.600 --> 50:29.600]  And I'd like your opinion on this.
[50:29.600 --> 50:32.600]  This is a property foreclosure.
[50:32.600 --> 50:36.600]  It's in New York, the venue is New York.
[50:36.600 --> 50:41.600]  New York is a judicial state, and this is a tax foreclosure.
[50:41.600 --> 50:42.600]  Okay.
[50:42.600 --> 50:51.600]  A trust has bought the interest of the county, whatever interest the county may have, to
[50:51.600 --> 50:53.600]  transfer to this trust.
[50:53.600 --> 51:02.600]  This trust has a custodian of the trust is U.S. Bank, which is interesting.
[51:02.600 --> 51:05.600]  And I'm just wondering what your comments may be.
[51:05.600 --> 51:13.600]  What I found out here looking into this is this particular trust has bought, it looks
[51:13.600 --> 51:19.600]  like 180 pages of the county clerk, this particular county, there's 180 pages with approximately
[51:19.600 --> 51:28.600]  30 to 40 properties per page, so this trust evidently looks to be acting as a debt collector,
[51:28.600 --> 51:29.600]  maybe.
[51:29.600 --> 51:30.600]  Okay.
[51:30.600 --> 51:34.600]  You're talking about a pass-through trust?
[51:34.600 --> 51:35.600]  I'm not sure.
[51:35.600 --> 51:37.600]  I'm still looking into what this trust is.
[51:37.600 --> 51:38.600]  Okay.
[51:38.600 --> 51:39.600]  You have the title of the...
[51:39.600 --> 51:40.600]  Okay.
[51:40.600 --> 51:52.600]  These trusts, these were the investment condo vehicles, but over time they've kind of evolved,
[51:52.600 --> 51:55.600]  at least from what I see in the paperwork.
[51:55.600 --> 52:03.600]  If the note was put into a trust, it had to have been put into the trust within three
[52:03.600 --> 52:13.600]  months of closing, or it had to have been put in the trust in replacement of one that
[52:13.600 --> 52:16.600]  had defaulted that was in the trust.
[52:16.600 --> 52:22.600]  Randy, that would be on a new loan, but we're talking about a tax foreclosure here.
[52:22.600 --> 52:23.600]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[52:23.600 --> 52:24.600]  I'm sorry.
[52:24.600 --> 52:29.600]  You did say that, and I caught it, and when you started talking about the trust, I dropped
[52:29.600 --> 52:30.600]  it.
[52:30.600 --> 52:31.600]  That changes everything.
[52:31.600 --> 52:32.600]  Hold on.
[52:32.600 --> 52:33.600]  So this was a tax foreclosure.
[52:33.600 --> 52:34.600]  I'm sorry.
[52:34.600 --> 52:42.600]  Was there a completed tax foreclosure, or are they in the process?
[52:42.600 --> 52:45.600]  The interest was transferred, the county...
[52:45.600 --> 52:49.600]  Actually, the town transferred their interest to the county.
[52:49.600 --> 52:53.600]  The county transferred their or sold their interest to this trust.
[52:53.600 --> 52:54.600]  Okay.
[52:54.600 --> 52:58.600]  So this is essentially a quit claim.
[52:58.600 --> 52:59.600]  I guess you could...
[52:59.600 --> 53:06.600]  Okay, in order for the county to get an interest, they would have had to have foreclosed, or
[53:06.600 --> 53:09.600]  did they sell the debt?
[53:09.600 --> 53:13.600]  I don't have that answer.
[53:13.600 --> 53:14.600]  Okay.
[53:14.600 --> 53:19.600]  So do you know if there was a tax foreclosure completed?
[53:19.600 --> 53:26.600]  Apparently, it's been completed because the interest has been transferred or sold to this
[53:26.600 --> 53:27.600]  trust.
[53:27.600 --> 53:28.600]  No, not necessarily.
[53:28.600 --> 53:35.600]  That's what I'm trying to get to, because what they may have done is just sold the debt.
[53:35.600 --> 53:37.600]  That's just a debt.
[53:37.600 --> 53:45.000]  Now, in that particular case, they have a special way of collecting that debt, but that
[53:45.000 --> 53:47.600]  would take a judicial foreclosure.
[53:47.600 --> 53:48.600]  Okay.
[53:48.600 --> 53:54.200]  You'd have to go into court, and they'd have to give you notice, and there's a whole bunch
[53:54.200 --> 53:56.160]  of steps they have to go through.
[53:56.160 --> 54:01.400]  What I'm hearing, and what it's sounding like, and Steve, I'd like to hear your opinion,
[54:01.400 --> 54:04.800]  it sounds like they just sold the debt.
[54:04.800 --> 54:06.800]  That's kind of what I was thinking, yeah.
[54:06.800 --> 54:14.920]  My thought was that this trust scheme is they bought 180 pages with 30 properties per page.
[54:14.920 --> 54:19.840]  They're simply a debt collector, and we're going after them for federal debt collection
[54:19.840 --> 54:20.840]  practices.
[54:20.840 --> 54:21.840]  FDCPA?
[54:21.840 --> 54:22.840]  Yeah.
[54:22.840 --> 54:27.200]  That's sure what it sounds like, is that they're a debt collector.
[54:27.200 --> 54:33.880]  Had you received communications from them, and if so, was there a notice that they were
[54:33.880 --> 54:37.600]  a debt collector?
[54:37.600 --> 54:42.600]  They hired a local attorney to represent them, which I'm sure they have hired the same firm
[54:42.600 --> 54:46.680]  and many actions from the filing site scenes.
[54:46.680 --> 54:50.540]  They have alluded to the fact that they're trying to collect the debt.
[54:50.540 --> 54:56.520]  We are going to file, I'm thinking of filing a counterclaim in here, in this case, to try
[54:56.520 --> 54:57.520]  to stop foreclosures.
[54:57.520 --> 54:58.520]  Okay.
[54:58.520 --> 54:59.520]  Hold on.
[54:59.520 --> 55:05.440]  Have you filed a debt validation letter and a QWR, or it won't be a QWR, but a debt validation
[55:05.440 --> 55:06.440]  letter?
[55:06.440 --> 55:15.440]  The person that's involved in this, they did file an answer looking for validation of debt.
[55:15.440 --> 55:16.440]  Okay.
[55:16.440 --> 55:24.520]  Yeah, I would treat this like a debt collection, like a third party debt collector.
[55:24.520 --> 55:28.720]  The goal here would be to determine as to whether or not they're collecting their own
[55:28.720 --> 55:34.560]  debt or if they have a third party doing the collection attempt.
[55:34.560 --> 55:39.280]  If it's a third party, then FDCPA kicks in.
[55:39.280 --> 55:47.320]  I just got involved in this, I'm trying to figure out who has standing here to collect
[55:47.320 --> 55:53.880]  this debt, what's the county actually transfer, other than just their interest, not even in
[55:53.880 --> 56:04.080]  the real property, but just as a, well, New York views as a tax liability, not as a debt,
[56:04.080 --> 56:06.320]  but how does this transfer over?
[56:06.320 --> 56:12.040]  So I'm just looking for any thoughts you guys have on how to attempt this.
[56:12.040 --> 56:21.640]  Yeah, I'd read the FDCPA real good and treat them as if they are a third party debt collector.
[56:21.640 --> 56:26.480]  If you treat them as a third party debt collector, but they are attempting to collect their own
[56:26.480 --> 56:30.400]  debt, they'll set you straight real quick.
[56:30.400 --> 56:32.920]  Okay.
[56:32.920 --> 56:39.200]  But if they are trying to collect their own debt, they'd still have to prove the debt
[56:39.200 --> 56:40.360]  is owed.
[56:40.360 --> 56:47.160]  Now taxes, property tax sales are not necessarily my forte.
[56:47.160 --> 56:54.000]  I think Randy might know a little bit more about that, but this smells like a third party
[56:54.000 --> 56:56.000]  collection attempt.
[56:56.000 --> 56:58.760]  Yeah, absolutely.
[56:58.760 --> 57:05.520]  And what I'm hearing, this is not the foreclosure process because normally the county just initiates
[57:05.520 --> 57:11.440]  a foreclosure process and gets a ruling from the judge and then they sell the property
[57:11.440 --> 57:12.440]  on the courthouse steps.
[57:12.440 --> 57:13.440]  Sure.
[57:13.440 --> 57:14.440]  So yeah.
[57:14.440 --> 57:18.600]  Definitely the properties surrounding this particular county do exactly that.
[57:18.600 --> 57:24.520]  They auction the property and unfortunately in New York, the county keeps all of the proceeds
[57:24.520 --> 57:30.000]  from the sale and the owner gets nothing, but in this case, the county did not do that.
[57:30.000 --> 57:35.600]  They just simply transferred their interest to this trust, which is a custodian of the
[57:35.600 --> 57:41.600]  trust USPAC, which was still trying to tear out that relationship.
[57:41.600 --> 57:48.400]  It looks like they're trying to find a more effective way of collecting them funds because
[57:48.400 --> 57:54.680]  when they have that special ability to do a foreclosure and take your property, that
[57:54.680 --> 57:58.880]  will stand over a bank loan or anything else.
[57:58.880 --> 58:03.080]  But once they do that, now they're holding the property.
[58:03.080 --> 58:09.720]  And when they put it up for auction, if nobody bids on it, then it goes back to the county
[58:09.720 --> 58:13.840]  and then they're responsible for it.
[58:13.840 --> 58:16.880]  And I suspect they don't want to be.
[58:16.880 --> 58:32.600]  So they're trying a slick maneuver to try to find another way to collect the funds.
[58:32.600 --> 58:40.320]  That sounds like it would eliminate their exclusive right to foreclose above a bank
[58:40.320 --> 58:42.120]  security instrument.
[58:42.120 --> 58:48.120]  Folks, we're coming up on a break real quick, hang on there, stay tuned folks, we'll be
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[01:01:41.560 --> 01:01:47.240]  Monday a Texas County grand jury indicted a former Austin police detective for manslaughter.
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[01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.600]  Officials were investigating a bank robbery when 32-year-old Larry Jackson showed up at
[01:01:57.600 --> 01:01:59.720]  the scene of the crime.
[01:01:59.720 --> 01:02:03.680]  Detectives began questioning Jackson after bank officials said they recognized him as
[01:02:03.680 --> 01:02:06.480]  a man who might try to defraud the bank.
[01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:11.080]  When Jackson fled after being questioned, former detective Charles Kleinert chased him
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[01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:25.400]  Kleinert retired last October, but pension records show he will still collect $72,000
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[01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:57.600]  Texas Republican Lamar Smith is calling the release the worst prison break in American
[01:02:57.600 --> 01:02:58.600]  history.
[01:03:27.600 --> 01:03:35.720]  Welcome back to Rule of Law Radio, folks.
[01:03:35.720 --> 01:03:39.800]  Stephen New York, let me press the go live button.
[01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:40.800]  There we go.
[01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.320]  Now we can hear you.
[01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:47.280]  Have we addressed your question as best we can?
[01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:54.960]  Well, here's my other thought, you know, property law kind of guy, is I'm looking to join the
[01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:01.120]  county in a counterclaim to this action that there is no evidence that this property was
[01:04:01.120 --> 01:04:07.960]  ever, this is probably strictly a New York issue, property was never registered to be
[01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:14.240]  eligible, if you like that word, for property taxation as far as we can find out.
[01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:16.320]  Okay, why is that?
[01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:22.760]  Is the property on the public roles of the county or the private roles of the county?
[01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:29.600]  Well, I don't know how to make that distinction but this goes back to, New York State doesn't
[01:04:29.600 --> 01:04:37.080]  use the foreign system, back in the 1900s in order to expedite farm loans and all of
[01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:41.880]  that you had the option to apply to the Supreme Court of New York State, which is just the
[01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:48.600]  regular trial court, to have your property taxed and of course it would be put on the
[01:04:48.600 --> 01:04:55.440]  tax rolls of the county and make it very easy to get a loan against the property.
[01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:01.080]  Nobody ever did that and they kind of split things in that everybody just started paying
[01:05:01.080 --> 01:05:06.800]  property taxes but I can find no evidence that this property was ever registered for
[01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:07.800]  taxation.
[01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:08.800]  Interesting.
[01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:17.480]  Yeah, that is an interesting issue, I haven't heard that about New York.
[01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:24.440]  Several years ago we had a guy from New York and what he would do is he would send a letter
[01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:33.040]  to the county and ask them if they had any claim against his property and then when they
[01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:39.320]  send him back a letter saying no they don't, then he would send back a letter and ask them
[01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:45.480]  to remove his property from the public roles to the private roles and that would stop taxation.
[01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.080]  At least that's what he said.
[01:05:48.080 --> 01:05:51.800]  In your case you probably can't do that because when you send them a letter and ask them to
[01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:56.240]  have a claim they're going to say yeah we got one.
[01:05:56.240 --> 01:06:00.600]  Well we're looking to see what evidence they have of such a claim as far as I can tell
[01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:05.560]  there is never any registration of this property like probably 99% of properties in New York
[01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:06.560]  State.
[01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:11.960]  You had to apply to the Supreme Court to register your property for the benefit if you will
[01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:16.200]  of taxation and you know it's not regard.
[01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:23.240]  Have you researched to see if that has changed at some point in the interim or something
[01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:28.560]  has been filed authorizing the state to tax even without your permission?
[01:06:28.560 --> 01:06:34.880]  Well I just got thrown into the middle of this and you know I just started stages all
[01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:39.800]  of this but my initial impression is that nobody was in the right mind other than somebody
[01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:45.960]  looking for the benefit of taxation and the easy transfer title or liens against it would
[01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:50.840]  in the right mind apply for the benefit of taxation.
[01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:57.600]  That is interesting applying for the benefit of taxation.
[01:06:57.600 --> 01:07:01.520]  I can't see any benefit to taxes.
[01:07:01.520 --> 01:07:05.920]  Well you should register your property for taxation and that would be easy since it was
[01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:11.520]  registered with the county court for a bank to record a lien so you could get money for
[01:07:11.520 --> 01:07:19.440]  seed or whatever other farming activities that you had wished at the time.
[01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:28.000]  Now is this property in the country or is it a municipality?
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.000]  Where is the property?
[01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:36.040]  It's in a municipality now but of course years ago the state goes back to the highland land
[01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:40.600]  purchase and all of that.
[01:07:40.600 --> 01:07:47.720]  So then you're being taxed for the privilege of having police come out when you called,
[01:07:47.720 --> 01:07:55.160]  the privilege of having the fire department come out if your house is on fire, other municipal
[01:07:55.160 --> 01:08:05.520]  water, sewer, blah, blah, blah so that's probably why they want the tax payment.
[01:08:05.520 --> 01:08:11.560]  But you had to willingly apply for that and you know for a particular property I looked
[01:08:11.560 --> 01:08:17.040]  at it back to 1900 something and by no way it was ever registered.
[01:08:17.040 --> 01:08:21.320]  Well I'm just at the beginning stages of that so thank you.
[01:08:21.320 --> 01:08:22.320]  Randy had a good suggestion.
[01:08:22.320 --> 01:08:24.040]  I'd back him up on that.
[01:08:24.040 --> 01:08:35.920]  I'd search the statutes and see if something has changed that would allow the municipality
[01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:42.720]  or whoever it is that's foreclosing on the property the authority to tax the property
[01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.000]  without it having been registered.
[01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:55.400]  You might look for a law titled something like I volunteer for you to pay the taxes.
[01:08:55.400 --> 01:08:58.720]  That would be a specific search parameter.
[01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.680]  That's what it would almost have to go to.
[01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:04.520]  Yeah pretty much.
[01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:14.440]  Maybe something like if you use the services of the state then you imply you are under
[01:09:14.440 --> 01:09:18.680]  an implied contract to pay the taxes.
[01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:23.200]  Almost certainly there's going to be something in there of that nature because if they have
[01:09:23.200 --> 01:09:31.480]  a old statute that says you have to voluntarily apply for the taxation and now they want to
[01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:36.840]  tax everybody somebody will have screamed.
[01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:44.680]  We fought a revolution over something like a 10% overall tax and that was outrageous
[01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:52.480]  and now we're at 40% so back in that time when they started taxing everybody's property
[01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:56.640]  I would expect that there would have been a lot of resistance so they almost certainly
[01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.200]  have something in place for that.
[01:09:59.200 --> 01:10:04.000]  We've tried to get a sworn declaration from the assessor that they have a true and correct
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  assessment while you're not going to get any kind of paperwork like that so we've been
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:16.440]  signing a number of different ways here and I guess we'll see where we come in.
[01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:22.440]  There's probably going to be some very specific procedures for dealing with assessments and
[01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:25.440]  stuff because they do that all the time.
[01:10:25.440 --> 01:10:29.720]  If you look at their code they probably have a remedy in the code.
[01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:37.040]  Whether they will actually exert the remedy when you evoke it that's a different thing
[01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:40.240]  but then that's kind of what the show's about when they don't do what they're supposed
[01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:46.000]  to we have tools to go beat them up with but I would certainly look at that because that
[01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.520]  is an interesting issue.
[01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:54.680]  You had to register your property for the benefit of taxation in New York State.
[01:10:54.680 --> 01:11:03.480]  Well anyways, thanks for your input guys and if you know anybody that goes by the nomenclature
[01:11:03.480 --> 01:11:10.040]  of Quasimodo you should check his PMs down in there.
[01:11:10.040 --> 01:11:12.240]  Somebody knows about me.
[01:11:12.240 --> 01:11:18.280]  Okay, I think yes Steve I know who you are.
[01:11:18.280 --> 01:11:19.280]  Thank you for calling in.
[01:11:19.280 --> 01:11:20.280]  I appreciate it.
[01:11:20.280 --> 01:11:22.280]  Do you have any more questions, comments?
[01:11:22.280 --> 01:11:26.960]  No, not yet, I'm still at the beginning of this issue.
[01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:27.960]  Okay.
[01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:28.960]  Good night.
[01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:33.120]  Well, good night and thank you for calling in Steve.
[01:11:33.120 --> 01:11:42.680]  Now we're going to I believe I had a conversation with this gentleman last night, Tim in California.
[01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.480]  Hello Tim, what do you got for us tonight?
[01:11:45.480 --> 01:11:48.120]  How are you, can you hear me?
[01:11:48.120 --> 01:11:49.920]  I can hear you just fine.
[01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:50.920]  Great.
[01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:57.280]  I have you on speaker so let me know if it gets shaky and I'll turn it off.
[01:11:57.280 --> 01:11:58.280]  It actually...
[01:11:58.280 --> 01:11:59.280]  So far so good.
[01:11:59.280 --> 01:12:00.280]  Good.
[01:12:00.280 --> 01:12:05.600]  The thing that I was going to ask you about, there are a couple, I'll get as many as you
[01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:10.760]  allow as much time as you have available for one person.
[01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:17.320]  One of them is this treason that's going on in the country, I have an action to file against
[01:12:17.320 --> 01:12:24.000]  one entity within my state, the Franchise Tax Board which are notorious, they just came
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:31.400]  and yanked, not just, it was actually a year or so ago, they came and yanked a big chunk
[01:12:31.400 --> 01:12:38.200]  of change out of my bank account, just unilaterally decided because of APNC I must have income
[01:12:38.200 --> 01:12:44.040]  and they just decided arbitrarily, came up with a number, calculated the taxes on that
[01:12:44.040 --> 01:12:50.000]  arbitrary number even though they had every bit of information on my income and it clearly
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:56.520]  wasn't anywhere near that among disability and that's available to them.
[01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.160]  Now everything, there is nothing hidden except from the government, everything has been inverted
[01:13:00.160 --> 01:13:05.640]  where we used to have privacy, now we have none at all and they have total secrecy, they
[01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:10.160]  just slap a little security stamp on it and they can do whatever they want.
[01:13:10.160 --> 01:13:13.160]  Are you talking about the IRS?
[01:13:13.160 --> 01:13:25.760]  No, it's the Franchise Tax Board, state level and the other thing that I wanted to do possibly
[01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:31.760]  at the same time is, I'm going to be assuming the Governor, these slimeballs at the Franchise
[01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:37.440]  Tax Board won't give any names as to who did what, who approved it, they're basically
[01:13:37.440 --> 01:13:43.000]  playing a shell game and they give you a little peon and they go running away to some secret
[01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:49.920]  person asking questions, they won't tell you, so you can't really go after, you know, supervisors,
[01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.280]  somebody that approved this little theft is what it is.
[01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:56.640]  Oh, okay, so you can't find who those supervisors are?
[01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:57.640]  Correct.
[01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:02.680]  Okay, so you can't do the respondeat superior.
[01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:12.440]  What I suggest is that if you talk to some shrap, low level clerk and the clerk gives
[01:14:12.440 --> 01:14:18.480]  you bad information or the clerk goes back to the high level clerk and she tells them
[01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:29.120]  to do something bogus, file criminal charges on the actor, okay, this goes to the position
[01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:35.800]  I tend to take is never ask a public official to do anything that you actually want them
[01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:36.800]  to do.
[01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:37.800]  Yeah.
[01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:45.880]  Okay, the reason is, is you never ask them to do anything that the law does not require
[01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:51.560]  them to do, so when you walk in and ask them to do something, you're really holding out
[01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.520]  this little tar baby and say, here, I got my little tar baby here, you want to touch
[01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:57.520]  it?
[01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:01.080]  Come on, go ahead, touch it, touch it for me, that's when you touch it, you're going
[01:15:01.080 --> 01:15:03.000]  to stick to it.
[01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:09.200]  When I ask you to do something that the law requires you to do and you refuse to do it,
[01:15:09.200 --> 01:15:15.800]  you stick to my tar baby, good, gotcha, because now you drag him with your tar baby and you
[01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:24.480]  go file against him somewhere else with someone over him and ask someone over him to prosecute
[01:15:24.480 --> 01:15:30.760]  this guy, like if it's a clerk in a court or someone in the registrar's office, you
[01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.600]  go to the district attorney and say, yeah, I asked this guy to do this and this law says
[01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.240]  he's supposed to do this, but he didn't do this and here's a law that says when a public
[01:15:39.240 --> 01:15:44.160]  official fails to perform a duty, he's required to perform and in the process denies a citizen
[01:15:44.160 --> 01:15:48.360]  in the full and free access to a enjoyment right, well, that's a criminal act and I want
[01:15:48.360 --> 01:15:51.360]  you to go out and arrest him.
[01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:54.040]  Who are you asking to arrest?
[01:15:54.040 --> 01:15:58.480]  You asked the district attorney to arrest whoever this is who didn't do what you requested
[01:15:58.480 --> 01:16:00.880]  that they do or what they were supposed to do.
[01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.680]  Oh, that's the subject of the arrest, but who do you go to?
[01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:05.240]  The sheriff is not going to go.
[01:16:05.240 --> 01:16:08.400]  Ah, screw the sheriff, go to the district attorney.
[01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:11.400]  We don't get involved with this.
[01:16:11.400 --> 01:16:12.400]  Keep in mind.
[01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:15.800]  I was stupid for even suggesting the idea.
[01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:19.720]  Wait a minute, I missed part of that.
[01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:26.960]  Oh, I talked to somebody at the county, I'm on disability and so-
[01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:28.960]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:33.960]  Never talk to him if you can avoid it.
[01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:34.960]  Send him a letter.
[01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:39.560]  Hold on, we'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.600]  Okay, you're like so this, hold on.
[01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:46.520]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, we will go radio.
[01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.520]  I call in number 512-646-1984.
[01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:52.360]  Francis, we see you there.
[01:16:52.360 --> 01:16:55.360]  We will get to you.
[01:16:55.360 --> 01:17:01.160]  We'll be right back.
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[01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:15.240]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, Wheel of Law Radio, and Tim, this is apparently, this is
[01:20:15.240 --> 01:20:24.600]  This is your first call in, so you may not be too familiar with the tax that we take.
[01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:29.440]  If you grew up in this country and went to the public schools, you were subjected to
[01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:38.400]  a school system that taught you a whole bunch of crapola, and we try to deal with how things
[01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:44.840]  really work and what actually works, and we try to kind of boil it down to some principles
[01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:50.360]  that's pretty easy to understand, and one of the principles is never, ever expect the
[01:20:50.360 --> 01:20:53.440]  court to rule in your favor.
[01:20:53.440 --> 01:20:54.440]  Courts are corrupt.
[01:20:54.440 --> 01:21:00.320]  They're absolutely corrupt, and if you go in as a pro se, representing yourself, you
[01:21:00.320 --> 01:21:09.000]  can expect the courts to rule against you out of hand at every turn, and that's just
[01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:10.560]  maybe they won't.
[01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.520]  Maybe they will rule in your favor, but it behooves you to act as if they will rule against
[01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:21.040]  you out of hand at every turn, so you plan what you do from the perspective that that's
[01:21:21.040 --> 01:21:25.360]  what's going to happen, and that's why we never ask a public official to do anything
[01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:33.480]  we actually want them to do, because we want them not to so that we can cover them because
[01:21:33.480 --> 01:21:40.840]  you will never win your case simply because you have the law and the facts on your side.
[01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:46.640]  It's not that way now, it never has been that way since the beginning of this country.
[01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:56.120]  Only win your case if you can get the politics on your side, and all politics is local.
[01:21:56.120 --> 01:22:02.640]  So what we do is set about showing you how to generate a little local politics.
[01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:07.440]  You go to this public official who thinks he's so big and smart and high and mighty,
[01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:09.920]  and you ask him to do something he's not going to want to do.
[01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:10.920]  I'll give you an example.
[01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:14.520]  I was in court, and they were having a hearing in front of me, and I went and stood up at
[01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:15.520]  the bar.
[01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.720]  The judge finally saw me standing there and said, can I help you?
[01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:22.480]  I said, yes, my name is Randall Kelton, and I have a hearing deficiency.
[01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:24.080]  Oh, you do, Mr. Kelton?
[01:22:24.080 --> 01:22:25.560]  Well, what's wrong with your hearing?
[01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:30.880]  Oh, judge, I was down in Mexico the other day, and I drank too much of that cheap tequila,
[01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:31.880]  and I lost my hearing aid.
[01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:34.240]  Well, why are you telling me this, Mr. Kelton?
[01:22:34.240 --> 01:22:36.880]  I said, well, do you have accommodation for the hearing impaired?
[01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:39.120]  Well, no, Mr. Kelton, I do not.
[01:22:39.120 --> 01:22:41.080]  So we have a sound system here.
[01:22:41.080 --> 01:22:42.080]  Will you turn it up?
[01:22:42.080 --> 01:22:43.080]  No, I will not.
[01:22:43.080 --> 01:22:44.080]  Well, then, will you speak up?
[01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:45.080]  And he did.
[01:22:45.080 --> 01:22:52.920]  He told the bailiff that if I didn't sound shut up, he stole me out of the courtroom.
[01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:58.760]  When I finished my hearing, I called the bailiff outside with me, and I wanted him to arrest
[01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:05.080]  the judge for Class A misdemeanor, official mis- official oppression, criminal violation
[01:23:05.080 --> 01:23:15.000]  39.03 for failing to perform a duty he was required to perform and in the process denied
[01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:21.120]  me in the full and free access to or enjoyment of right, in that he failed to provide accommodation
[01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:24.720]  under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
[01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:25.720]  Okay.
[01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:32.680]  And the bailiff said, well, why didn't you tell him about the Americans with Disabilities
[01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:33.680]  Act?
[01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:42.440]  I said, heck, if I'd have done that, he might have turned up sound system jerk guy wants
[01:23:42.440 --> 01:23:44.480]  to have an attitude.
[01:23:44.480 --> 01:23:47.240]  We'll introduce him to the deep end of the pool.
[01:23:47.240 --> 01:23:52.920]  So now I try to get the bailiff to arrest the judge and he refused.
[01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:58.520]  I even told him to take his chicken suit off and he wouldn't do it.
[01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:05.080]  So now I go to the district attorney and ask the district attorney to arrest the bailiff.
[01:24:05.080 --> 01:24:08.600]  The bailiff's job to keep the peace in the courtroom makes no difference who breaches
[01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:10.800]  it.
[01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:15.440]  He observed the crime being committed and refused to perform his duty.
[01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:18.640]  Now I go after the bailiff.
[01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:23.800]  When I file a criminal complaint against the bailiff, the bailiff is going to go ballistic
[01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:27.840]  and he's going to run into that judge and say, you got to do something.
[01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:34.020]  I was covering your behind and now they're coming after me.
[01:24:34.020 --> 01:24:37.200]  That's the politics we're talking about.
[01:24:37.200 --> 01:24:38.200]  Okay.
[01:24:38.200 --> 01:24:46.080]  And then when the prosecuting attorney refuses to arrest the bailiff, then you go to state
[01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:50.840]  attorney general and ask him to arrest the prosecutor.
[01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:55.560]  When he refuses, you go to the chief justice of the Supreme Court in the state of California
[01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:00.080]  and you ask him to hold an examining trial on your criminal complaints and arrest the
[01:25:00.080 --> 01:25:05.400]  attorney general for not arresting the district attorney, for not arresting that Chuck Bailey
[01:25:05.400 --> 01:25:08.640]  for not arresting the judge.
[01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.280]  Does that make sense?
[01:25:11.280 --> 01:25:13.240]  This is like the old plumber's rule.
[01:25:13.240 --> 01:25:18.640]  There's two rules in plumbing, paydays on Friday and crap rolls downhill.
[01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:29.480]  And keep in mind, when you walk into a courthouse, you are the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[01:25:29.480 --> 01:25:34.760]  There's only one reason you're the baddest motor scooter in the building.
[01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:37.600]  It's because you're nobody.
[01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:43.560]  You're not a judge, you're not a bailiff, you're not a clerk, you're not a lawyer.
[01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:46.200]  They are all public servants.
[01:25:46.200 --> 01:25:54.040]  You, you are the master and they are not to forget it.
[01:25:54.040 --> 01:26:00.920]  They are there and they have a duty to abide by your rules.
[01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:04.600]  You don't live in a democracy.
[01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:12.920]  You live in a republic and in a republic, the law belongs to each individual.
[01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:18.160]  All the servants are servants of the individuals.
[01:26:18.160 --> 01:26:21.400]  So we discipline our servants.
[01:26:21.400 --> 01:26:28.440]  You know, you think of my kid, like I think about my grandkids, I've loved them dearly.
[01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:33.440]  But if one of them runs out in the road, I'm fixing to tan his hide.
[01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:36.360]  I treat my public officials the same way.
[01:26:36.360 --> 01:26:45.040]  I have given you a set of rules to follow and I have developed remedies with which I
[01:26:45.040 --> 01:26:50.280]  could kick your butt when you don't.
[01:26:50.280 --> 01:26:56.240]  This really works and it's simple, there's only one drawback.
[01:26:56.240 --> 01:27:01.920]  You have to really be careful because when you start doing this, it's likely to become
[01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:06.840]  way too much fun.
[01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:12.960]  When you ask them to do something, they give you this song and dance and seltzer down your
[01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:13.960]  pants.
[01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:17.480]  You don't argue with them, you just, okay.
[01:27:17.480 --> 01:27:21.560]  You go to the next guy up the line and ask him to arrest that one.
[01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:26.320]  You do that about twice and they're going to get the, the word will go around, watch
[01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:29.120]  out for this scoundrel.
[01:27:29.120 --> 01:27:34.400]  He's going to ask you to do something and try to get you not to, just so he can run
[01:27:34.400 --> 01:27:36.280]  down and try to get you arrested.
[01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:39.280]  That's what we want to do.
[01:27:39.280 --> 01:27:43.760]  Yeah, I like your style, I must say, you know, it makes sense, I understand what you're saying.
[01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:47.200]  Our court here is totally corrupt.
[01:27:47.200 --> 01:27:49.440]  It's the same way everywhere.
[01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:55.640]  I do seminars all over the country and everybody says, oh, my county is the most corrupt county
[01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:57.600]  in the nation.
[01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:01.360]  I don't see any difference, they're all the same.
[01:28:01.360 --> 01:28:10.040]  You know, I've spent 30 years trying to research out what the problem is and I found it.
[01:28:10.040 --> 01:28:18.600]  It's Cham in California, he's the problem and it's Randy in Texas because we didn't
[01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:25.440]  stand up and rail in righteous indignation the first time one of our officials stepped
[01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:28.600]  across a tiny little line.
[01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:35.520]  We don't wait till they do something horrendous, nail them on the nitpicking stuff.
[01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:42.880]  When they have all this trouble coming at them over something really minor, this judge
[01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:48.120]  is going to have to fend these criminal complaints off because he wouldn't turn his sound system
[01:28:48.120 --> 01:28:49.400]  up.
[01:28:49.400 --> 01:28:52.600]  He's going to say, are you kidding me?
[01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:56.040]  He's filing criminal complaints against the attorney general with the chief justice of
[01:28:56.040 --> 01:29:03.000]  the Supreme Court because he wouldn't arrest me for not turning up my sound system?
[01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:09.720]  Think how much more careful he's going to be when it gets to something more serious.
[01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:15.280]  There's no way they're going to indict the judge for not turning up his sound system.
[01:29:15.280 --> 01:29:22.480]  We don't want him to, we just want to kick him in his pants really hard a few times.
[01:29:22.480 --> 01:29:29.520]  So when we come back, I'll actually go to something you wanted to talk about.
[01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:33.520]  I kind of bushwhacked you there, but since you already called her, I didn't know if you
[01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:40.280]  were familiar with the approach that we take.
[01:29:40.280 --> 01:29:45.520]  Hang on, we're about to go to break and we'll pick this back up on the other side.
[01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:50.680]  This is Randy Kelton and Steve Kiddmore with Radio and Francis, I see you there.
[01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:55.960]  We'll try to get to you pretty quick because I know you're going to have some complex issues.
[01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:57.720]  You always have a way of stumping the chumps.
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[01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:36.840]  We are back.
[01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:39.400]  Randy Kelton with Steve Skidmore with Logos Radio.
[01:33:39.400 --> 01:33:47.320]  Tim, what was your original issue before I bushwhacked you?
[01:33:47.320 --> 01:33:50.320]  Let's see.
[01:33:50.320 --> 01:33:55.040]  I'd like to go after the governor, but I'd like to... One of the things that I'm a little
[01:33:55.040 --> 01:34:00.280]  bit concerned about is that our governor has not prepared for us getting totally screwed
[01:34:00.280 --> 01:34:05.000]  over by the banksters, the Federal Reserve.
[01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:09.600]  All it would take is a state like ours, and it would be great if it was a couple of states
[01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:15.160]  like Texas and California, or maybe just the Western Arizona, Texas, Nevada, to get together
[01:34:15.160 --> 01:34:21.120]  and put together the greenback, some sort of backstop for these damn criminal banksters.
[01:34:21.120 --> 01:34:22.120]  Okay.
[01:34:22.120 --> 01:34:23.840]  We are working on that.
[01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:25.560]  Through him to the horse family.
[01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:26.560]  They're all masons.
[01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:32.240]  They're all whores, being bribed, and this goes back to the 15th century English quote
[01:34:32.240 --> 01:34:39.000]  unquote revolution, all these revolutions have been Masonic coups, and they've done
[01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.520]  the same thing here, and all we have to do, we've got to... The Iceland solution is
[01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:44.520]  what we need.
[01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:52.580]  I think many people, it's very obvious, and it would force these Mason governors to come
[01:34:52.580 --> 01:34:57.920]  up with something for their people to whom they're supposedly... Of course they're
[01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.280]  not, and they have a duty to.
[01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:07.960]  If there's someone we could sue them and force them to set up an interest-free war,
[01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:13.680]  war-proof currency, so they can get out of the debt war blood-skin.
[01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:22.280]  Every state has the option of establishing gold and silver as legal tender, and as I
[01:35:22.280 --> 01:35:30.000]  understand, the last I heard, some 23 states have legislative proposals to that effect.
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:40.720]  If they simply rendered gold and silver, legal tender, valued by weight of species, then
[01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.040]  that would cut out these greenback dollars.
[01:35:43.040 --> 01:35:48.200]  The feds could take their green frog skins and use them for toilet paper.
[01:35:48.200 --> 01:35:54.600]  Well, Lincoln set up the greenback is what I was talking about, and it was a separate
[01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:55.600]  non-king orientation.
[01:35:55.600 --> 01:36:00.840]  This is why, of course, they got killed, but couldn't we do something to...
[01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:03.080]  Well, you're talking about Kennedy...
[01:36:03.080 --> 01:36:04.080]  Not enough.
[01:36:04.080 --> 01:36:05.080]  It's ridiculous.
[01:36:05.080 --> 01:36:07.520]  If they look at the disparity between the two, that will never happen.
[01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:08.520]  Okay.
[01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:13.400]  That's exactly what Kennedy tried to do, is establish a metal-backed currency.
[01:36:13.400 --> 01:36:20.080]  Well, oddly enough, we've had, since the institution of this country, we've had four successful
[01:36:20.080 --> 01:36:22.040]  assassinations on presidents.
[01:36:22.040 --> 01:36:28.120]  There's McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln, and Kennedy.
[01:36:28.120 --> 01:36:35.880]  Several attacks on Andrew Jackson, and you might as well throw the unsuccessful attempt
[01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:37.820]  on Ronald Reagan.
[01:36:37.820 --> 01:36:43.300]  There's one common thread that ties all of these six men together, and that is that they
[01:36:43.300 --> 01:36:47.520]  all said no to a central bank.
[01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:54.520]  The central bank had already been instituted when Kennedy issued the silver certificates,
[01:36:54.520 --> 01:37:00.880]  and if anybody's seen a dollar bill with a little red seal on it, that's a silver certificate.
[01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:09.240]  Ronald Reagan, if you'll remember, Ronald Reagan came on television, and I remember
[01:37:09.240 --> 01:37:10.240]  him saying that.
[01:37:10.240 --> 01:37:16.160]  He says, what we need to do is get back to an honest currency.
[01:37:16.160 --> 01:37:21.040]  Enter stage left, John Hinckley Jr., pop, pop, pop, you never heard another word about
[01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:26.480]  honest currency out of Ronald Reagan.
[01:37:26.480 --> 01:37:29.160]  I think he got the message.
[01:37:29.160 --> 01:37:39.840]  Yeah, I'm of the firm belief that the root of this American problem, actually it's a
[01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:46.120]  global problem now, is fiat currencies, debt-based currencies.
[01:37:46.120 --> 01:37:52.120]  You'll never borrow your way out of debt, and that's what we do.
[01:37:52.120 --> 01:37:56.640]  Every time they raise the debt ceiling, what does that mean, raising the debt ceiling?
[01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:01.280]  Well, that means that somebody made the decision that we can go back to the IMF and borrow
[01:38:01.280 --> 01:38:05.240]  more money.
[01:38:05.240 --> 01:38:09.320]  That's not going to get us out of debt.
[01:38:09.320 --> 01:38:11.800]  So what about Iceland's solution?
[01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:17.840]  There's this saying, basically, that they'll never do it because they know they'll be dead?
[01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:18.840]  I don't know.
[01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:20.440]  That would take a crystal ball.
[01:38:20.440 --> 01:38:23.280]  I don't have one of those.
[01:38:23.280 --> 01:38:25.280]  It would take, you know, this cycle.
[01:38:25.280 --> 01:38:31.200]  He's going to do something that's right for his people, for God's sake.
[01:38:31.200 --> 01:38:36.080]  You know, California's big enough, and I understand, I think our economy, at least it used to be,
[01:38:36.080 --> 01:38:41.680]  I don't know about now, was almost as big as half the rest of the country.
[01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:45.560]  And if one state like California or a couple of states that could equal California could
[01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:53.520]  come up with their own currency as a backstop, even as a shotgun over their heads, go ahead.
[01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:54.520]  Make our day.
[01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:58.320]  Do your little 1929 game again, and we're all ready for you.
[01:38:58.320 --> 01:39:02.280]  We're going to use the Hitler solution, bitch.
[01:39:02.280 --> 01:39:05.240]  Yeah, we've got to watch the language.
[01:39:05.240 --> 01:39:11.760]  Yeah, well, let's watch the vulgarity.
[01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:13.240]  We can't have that.
[01:39:13.240 --> 01:39:14.240]  Sorry.
[01:39:14.240 --> 01:39:15.240]  Yeah.
[01:39:15.240 --> 01:39:16.240]  Okay.
[01:39:16.240 --> 01:39:17.240]  Bovine experiment.
[01:39:17.240 --> 01:39:18.240]  Sorry.
[01:39:18.240 --> 01:39:19.240]  Yeah.
[01:39:19.240 --> 01:39:20.240]  Okay.
[01:39:20.240 --> 01:39:21.880]  That's stepping up to the line, but that's not crossing it.
[01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:27.880]  But have we addressed your question at all?
[01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:28.880]  Okay.
[01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:35.160]  So how would you sue, okay, then I guess there's no really, how would you sue the entire country?
[01:39:35.160 --> 01:39:43.240]  The governor to compel him to do, you know, financial backup, backstop to these criminal
[01:39:43.240 --> 01:39:44.240]  bank accounts.
[01:39:44.240 --> 01:39:47.040]  I don't know that you could.
[01:39:47.040 --> 01:39:48.520]  You'd have to get legislation.
[01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:53.040]  A company that basically commit treason.
[01:39:53.040 --> 01:39:58.520]  You can't sue a corporation for treason if they're hiding treason that's going on.
[01:39:58.520 --> 01:39:59.520]  Okay.
[01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:05.080]  Treason, a lot of times we have people talking treason and mixing treason with sedition.
[01:40:05.080 --> 01:40:09.000]  Treason's armed insurrection against the government.
[01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.000]  Oh, it is armed?
[01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  Okay.
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:19.320]  This is more seditious and sedition doesn't involve, it's undermining the government,
[01:40:19.320 --> 01:40:22.960]  but it's so hard to make the argument.
[01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:32.840]  I've spent 30 years looking for a more subtle remedy.
[01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:39.640]  A remedy where we, if we find the right thing to change, the rest of the structure will
[01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:41.800]  start changing around it.
[01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:48.160]  We're not going to fix this with a bulldozer because we've got the Bilderbergs and Rockefellers
[01:40:48.160 --> 01:40:53.840]  and the real big money in the background.
[01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:57.560]  They just got bigger bulldozers than we do.
[01:40:57.560 --> 01:40:59.560]  We're basically talking about currencies.
[01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:03.080]  There's alternative currencies popping up everywhere.
[01:41:03.080 --> 01:41:07.080]  I don't know if you know anything about cryptocurrencies.
[01:41:07.080 --> 01:41:14.320]  Bitcoin, there's, Bitcoin's just one example.
[01:41:14.320 --> 01:41:19.480]  What I find attractive about cryptocurrencies, even though they are a fiat currency, there's
[01:41:19.480 --> 01:41:22.280]  nothing tangible behind them.
[01:41:22.280 --> 01:41:28.120]  Okay, we go back in history to Old Man Rothschild.
[01:41:28.120 --> 01:41:34.920]  He said, give me the issue of a nation's currency, and I care not who makes its laws.
[01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:40.360]  If you've got a centralized bank issuing the value of a currency or issuing a currency
[01:41:40.360 --> 01:41:50.360]  itself, that takes the power of value or acceptance for value out of the hands of those who are
[01:41:50.360 --> 01:41:51.960]  trading it.
[01:41:51.960 --> 01:42:00.360]  However, these cryptocurrencies put the power of accepted value back in the hands of those
[01:42:00.360 --> 01:42:02.520]  who are trading it.
[01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:09.240]  I think the more we become accustomed to using these cryptocurrencies and the more we trade
[01:42:09.240 --> 01:42:16.000]  in cryptocurrencies, the more power we take away from the centralization of the currency
[01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.520]  that we currently use as medium of exchange.
[01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:28.840]  These cryptocurrencies are getting more traction on internet purchases and also in storefront
[01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:30.800]  brick and mortar buildings.
[01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:40.040]  I'm starting to see little Bitcoin signs on the front doors of brick and mortar establishments.
[01:42:40.040 --> 01:42:42.440]  People are starting to catch on.
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:51.280]  So if you can't get it done legislatively, do it yourself.
[01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:58.220]  Look into some of these cryptocurrencies, and I think if they become popular enough,
[01:42:58.220 --> 01:43:07.840]  we can decentralize and debase this debt currency we're on now and use the barter item of a
[01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:08.840]  cryptocurrency.
[01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:19.200]  Well, so you don't think that it's reasonable for a country leader, whether it be like Governor
[01:43:19.200 --> 01:43:25.600]  Brown or some other large state, to set up a backstop in case the banks do it again?
[01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:27.600]  I mean, we know what they're going to do.
[01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:33.640]  Well, I think it's feasible, but I just don't think you'll ever get there because we know
[01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:35.320]  who's pocket they're in.
[01:43:35.320 --> 01:43:41.360]  And I hear the music in the background.
[01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:47.760]  We've got one more segment and Francis has been hanging on for a long time.
[01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.000]  Tim, we're going to let you go and move on.
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:55.880]  Do thank you for calling in and folks, we're reaching the end of the show and we'll be
[01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:58.720]  back with Francis right on the other side of this break.
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[01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:47.280]  On that note, Francis in Colorado, you've got the rest of the show, honey.
[01:47:47.280 --> 01:47:48.280]  Take off running.
[01:47:48.280 --> 01:47:49.280]  Oh, okay.
[01:47:49.280 --> 01:47:50.280]  Well, hey, y'all.
[01:47:50.280 --> 01:47:57.320]  Thanks for taking my phone call, and gosh, what a delightful, scary thing that Ms. Carol
[01:47:57.320 --> 01:47:58.320]  has going on.
[01:47:58.320 --> 01:48:01.280]  I'm absolutely mesmerized, so I can hardly wait until she comes back.
[01:48:01.280 --> 01:48:04.520]  Yeah, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the whole thing.
[01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:11.800]  Yeah, well, and I've been to the federal attorney who's, you know, I can hardly wait until you
[01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:14.480]  guys post that, and I get that over to him.
[01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:19.440]  And he's got a whole network of attorneys who's, you know, on top of these things and
[01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:21.840]  just going down the pathway.
[01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:26.880]  So anyway, well, my question is on my quiet title.
[01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:38.080]  So I filed in, and the judge granted to list a stay, and he struck down and denied the
[01:48:38.080 --> 01:48:43.240]  introduction of new evidence, which was Joe Escobel's package.
[01:48:43.240 --> 01:48:47.840]  And we had a summary judgment in, in waiting when we had to go, when we had to stay the
[01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:50.600]  case last year.
[01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:55.760]  And we also had a motion to strike the lender's motion to dismiss.
[01:48:55.760 --> 01:49:05.400]  The lender basically died in 2009 prior to our foreclosure, and it's just an unkillable
[01:49:05.400 --> 01:49:06.400]  zombie.
[01:49:06.400 --> 01:49:13.000]  I cannot, I have filed motions to compel them to approve agency, and they continue to file
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:16.240]  motions into the court with lies in them.
[01:49:16.240 --> 01:49:22.360]  And they admitted themselves that they relinquished all rights to the property shortly after the
[01:49:22.360 --> 01:49:27.560]  closing in 2006, and yet here they are in this quiet title, yapping away.
[01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:35.200]  So should I file a findings of fact and conclusions of law on the denial of the new evidence,
[01:49:35.200 --> 01:49:41.060]  or should I go ahead and let them set the hearing and the evidentiary hearing for summary
[01:49:41.060 --> 01:49:47.040]  judgment and let them hear the motion to dismiss at the same time and challenge their agency?
[01:49:47.040 --> 01:49:52.520]  And then would it be something appropriate to file?
[01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:56.160]  We have a district court, but below that we have a county court.
[01:49:56.160 --> 01:50:02.480]  And so what I'm thinking is maybe I should take Joe's information and just to give myself
[01:50:02.480 --> 01:50:12.400]  some insurance, file the case to get a declaratory judgment on the one piece of paper, which
[01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:17.320]  in Colorado is a little bit different from, is the qualified holders.
[01:50:17.320 --> 01:50:23.600]  We don't get a transfer of trustee, we get a disqualified holder statement, and Joe hammered
[01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:24.600]  on that.
[01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:28.520]  Would it be appropriate, since I'm not asking for any money, to go into the county court
[01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:29.960]  below the district court?
[01:50:29.960 --> 01:50:34.920]  I'm in the district court with my quiet title.
[01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:38.880]  Would it be appropriate to file yet another case, or are they going to suck it up like
[01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:42.920]  a vacuum right into the district court, into the same judge?
[01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:47.800]  Well, I don't know if they'll bring it into the district court, but I've got a couple
[01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:49.720]  of questions for you.
[01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:57.000]  Have you filed Joe's affidavit into the public property records?
[01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:02.080]  No, into the public property records, so that would be the original that I just got.
[01:51:02.080 --> 01:51:03.080]  Okay.
[01:51:03.080 --> 01:51:05.720]  No, I haven't, but I will do that on Monday.
[01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:06.720]  Okay.
[01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:15.800]  If and when you do that, what you do is you create self-authenticated evidence.
[01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:17.920]  You follow me?
[01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:22.760]  Once it's in the public record, you get a certified copy.
[01:51:22.760 --> 01:51:23.760]  That's self-authenticating.
[01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:37.440]  Now, if you were to take that self-authenticated evidence into a motion for declaratory judgment,
[01:51:37.440 --> 01:51:43.280]  since you're not asking for damages, and keep in mind that the quiet title action is also
[01:51:43.280 --> 01:51:51.880]  a declaratory judgment, you wouldn't necessarily title the document quiet title, because you're
[01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:58.400]  already fighting, I take it the title of your document is quiet title in the other court.
[01:51:58.400 --> 01:52:05.840]  But if you go in strictly on a declaratory judgment, what I, if it were me, what I would
[01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:13.000]  want the court to do would be to declare, is this party, according to this evidence,
[01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:18.040]  is this party entitled to enforce the instruments?
[01:52:18.040 --> 01:52:24.840]  When you get a no back from that court, the whole playing field just changed.
[01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:26.320]  Okay.
[01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:28.640]  Now you've got, now you've got res judicata.
[01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:29.640]  Right.
[01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:30.640]  Okay.
[01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:31.640]  Well, why don't I go ahead?
[01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:33.280]  I will do that then on Monday.
[01:52:33.280 --> 01:52:38.400]  Now, what they do here is they just, they take it and they run it through a little scanner,
[01:52:38.400 --> 01:52:41.920]  and then they put a little sticker on it, and they hand you back the original document,
[01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:47.480]  which would mean I would still have Joe, so then I would go and get a certified copy of
[01:52:47.480 --> 01:52:48.480]  what they filed.
[01:52:48.480 --> 01:52:49.480]  With the sticker.
[01:52:49.480 --> 01:52:50.480]  Yes.
[01:52:50.480 --> 01:52:51.480]  Okay.
[01:52:51.480 --> 01:52:52.480]  Yes.
[01:52:52.480 --> 01:52:55.560]  And then I take that and go and file in a motion for a declaratory judgment.
[01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:58.920]  Is that the name of my claim into the county?
[01:52:58.920 --> 01:52:59.920]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:00.920]  Okay.
[01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:01.920]  Yes, ma'am.
[01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:02.920]  Okay.
[01:53:02.920 --> 01:53:11.520]  Francis, I suspect that if you have a title issue before the court, or a real property
[01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:22.560]  issue, if you file a claim against any documents related to the issue that's before the court,
[01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:31.880]  they're going to join it to that, to the original suit, and it's unlikely that you'll be able
[01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:34.880]  to make a title claim in a county court.
[01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:39.920]  If it's anything like Texas, it'll have to go to a district court, and when one district
[01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:46.320]  court is already hearing matters concerning this property, they're going to join this
[01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:47.320]  right with it.
[01:53:47.320 --> 01:53:48.320]  Okay.
[01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:51.720]  Well, if they would join it, I would have it right in front of the judge, because right
[01:53:51.720 --> 01:53:56.440]  now he's denying, he's denied all my new evidence.
[01:53:56.440 --> 01:54:04.520]  Did he give grounds for denying, was this a hearing that would allow evidence to be
[01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:05.520]  brought?
[01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:08.080]  What kind of situation was he in?
[01:54:08.080 --> 01:54:14.840]  Well, I think that's why she's asking about the finding of facts and conclusions.
[01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:15.840]  Right.
[01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:22.040]  Well, what was the nature of the hearing that would give him authority to refuse to allow
[01:54:22.040 --> 01:54:23.040]  you an evidence?
[01:54:23.040 --> 01:54:24.680]  There was no hearing.
[01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:26.760]  I filed a motion.
[01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:28.600]  I filed a multiple motion thing.
[01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:34.760]  I filed a motion to remove the stay, a motion, a plaintiff's affidavit of additional evidence,
[01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:38.760]  a motion to remove the stay, a motion to rule on plaintiff's amended motion for summary
[01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:45.960]  judgment, and a motion to strike defendant's motion to dismiss, and those two things were
[01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:51.760]  from last year, and then a demand for evidentiary hearing, and I had already filed the amended
[01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:56.840]  motion for summary judgment and demand for evidentiary, well, and the motion to strike
[01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:02.800]  defendant's motion to dismiss, and the demand for evidentiary hearing in 2013, and what
[01:55:02.800 --> 01:55:07.480]  he did was he removed the stay and denied everything else.
[01:55:07.480 --> 01:55:12.080]  Was the stay created by BK, by bankruptcy?
[01:55:12.080 --> 01:55:17.320]  It was created, yes, because we have a reopened bankruptcy, and I had to wait for them to
[01:55:17.320 --> 01:55:18.320]  abandon the case.
[01:55:18.320 --> 01:55:19.320]  Okay.
[01:55:19.320 --> 01:55:20.320]  Okay.
[01:55:20.320 --> 01:55:21.320]  Okay.
[01:55:21.320 --> 01:55:23.280]  So now the stay is lifted.
[01:55:23.280 --> 01:55:29.560]  We have standing, and so now we're ready to move forward, and we already had the summary
[01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:39.320]  judgment in place, you know, we had already filed that in when I had to put it on stay,
[01:55:39.320 --> 01:55:45.440]  and so, and like I said, the defendant is American Mortgage Network.
[01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:50.560]  Mortgage electronic registration systems have been dismissed because they signed, they cashed
[01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:56.500]  a check that equaled signing a quit claim, so the only person that was in the public
[01:55:56.500 --> 01:56:01.720]  record was the lender, but the lender went out of business in 2009, and the lender previous
[01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:06.880]  to that sold all their rights in 2006, and yet there they are standing there, and I'm
[01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:09.880]  like, who is paying you?
[01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:15.880]  Interlocutory appeal.
[01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:19.840]  Do some research on interlocutory appeal.
[01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:24.880]  An interlocutory appeal, if you're not familiar with it, you kind of put an action that you've
[01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:33.840]  got going on pause, and you take a single issue to an appellate court and get a ruling
[01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:37.440]  on that.
[01:56:37.440 --> 01:56:42.960]  Once you get a ruling on that, now you take that ruling back into the court, and you've
[01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:50.980]  got a higher court decision saying, okay, this is controlling this lower court, so look
[01:56:50.980 --> 01:57:05.320]  into your state requirements for an interlocutory appeal and entertain that avenue.
[01:57:05.320 --> 01:57:16.920]  What I would appeal would be the judge's authority to disallow or not allow your evidence, because
[01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:24.320]  that is your remedy, he is denying you remedy, so I would want to go to his boss or a court
[01:57:24.320 --> 01:57:35.000]  higher than his and get a ruling as to why is he not allowing my evidence.
[01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:39.240]  Make him allow my evidence.
[01:57:39.240 --> 01:57:46.520]  If you get an interlocutory appeal, that decision is going to control him, going to control
[01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:47.520]  the lower court.
[01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:48.520]  Got it.
[01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:49.520]  Thank you.
[01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:50.520]  That's a good idea.
[01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:51.520]  Okay.
[01:57:51.520 --> 01:57:54.120]  I've got my work cut out.
[01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:58.280]  Yes ma'am, we all do, but I'm glad that you're willing to do it.
[01:57:58.280 --> 01:57:59.280]  Not many people are.
[01:57:59.280 --> 01:58:00.280]  Well, I do.
[01:58:00.280 --> 01:58:01.280]  All right.
[01:58:01.280 --> 01:58:05.080]  Well, thank you guys, and have a great weekend.
[01:58:05.080 --> 01:58:06.080]  I'm sure glad you can.
[01:58:06.080 --> 01:58:07.080]  Absolutely.
[01:58:07.080 --> 01:58:08.080]  Frances, thank you for calling in.
[01:58:08.080 --> 01:58:12.040]  Folks, that's going to wrap it up for another week.
[01:58:12.040 --> 01:58:14.760]  Randy, you want to take us out?
[01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:21.920]  Yep, and I want to thank everybody for listening, and make sure you tune in to Eddie's traffic
[01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:30.640]  show Monday, 8 to 10, and Harlan Beatrix crypto show on Sunday and Wednesday.
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[01:58:38.160 --> 01:58:43.520]  our four hour show so you can stomp the chumps.
[01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:46.960]  Randy Kelton, Steve Skidmore, looking forward to it.
[01:58:46.960 --> 01:59:16.880]  Thank you for listening, good night.
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