[00:16.860 --> 00:23.860] May 3rd, 2013. Gold opened today at $1464, silver at $23.84, and bitcoin is trading at [00:24.400 --> 00:29.860] $80.46. Support for The Liberty Beat comes from Capital City Automotive, honest, reliable [00:29.860 --> 00:34.880] and affordable auto repair for vehicles foreign and domestic. Located at 1802 South Congress, [00:34.880 --> 00:41.880] by phone at 512-447-2886 and online at capitalcityautoaustin.com. [00:42.160 --> 00:47.680] And now the news. According to a poll conducted by the Farley-Dickison University, 29% of [00:47.680 --> 00:51.920] registered voters think that an armed revolution may be unavoidable in the next few years to [00:51.920 --> 00:57.080] preserve our civil liberties. Polls surveyed 863 registered voters and focused on both [00:57.080 --> 01:01.480] gun control and the possibility of an armed revolution in the United States. 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[02:16.520 --> 02:20.600] The National Rifle Association is meeting in Houston, Texas this weekend and already [02:20.600 --> 02:24.640] drawing crowds to the amount of tens of thousands of people after recent efforts to exert new [02:24.640 --> 02:28.920] gun control legislation in the U.S. Congress failed. According to Reuters, 70,000 people [02:28.920 --> 02:32.160] are expected to appear at the conference and rally dubbed the Stand and Fight Rally, which [02:32.160 --> 02:35.960] will feature keynote speakers like Glenn Beck and politicians including Governor Rick Perry [02:35.960 --> 02:40.640] of Texas and Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. 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Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens with our special guest Steve Skidmore. [04:06.000 --> 04:13.000] And we are talking to Dan in Connecticut. And I think I unmuted you. It's not taking. [04:14.000 --> 04:19.800] Hang on. Gotcha. Okay, go ahead. My page is not refreshing so I can't tell if I muted [04:19.800 --> 04:23.320] you or not. Well, it makes me sound intelligent, so that [04:23.320 --> 04:30.320] works too. Okay, you have a 137 page document? [04:30.320 --> 04:37.320] Yes, that is our course workbook. I actually decided since I was working with this attorney [04:37.480 --> 04:43.080] so much and I had a whole bunch of questions and there was a whole bunch of questions he [04:43.080 --> 04:48.960] had. Quite frankly, we're sick of, tired of answering the same questions over and over [04:48.960 --> 04:52.720] and over again. And we realized that a lot of people when they kind of get into this [04:52.720 --> 04:56.840] mess, you know, they don't know how to assemble the documents. They don't know how to search [04:56.840 --> 05:02.360] the land records. They don't know about securities filings. They don't know about different pleadings [05:02.360 --> 05:07.920] you can file. They know nothing about discoveries. As a matter of fact, 80% of the time in Connecticut [05:07.920 --> 05:14.920] when somebody's in foreclosure, they don't even file an appearance. So basically when [05:14.920 --> 05:19.320] And that surprises you, Dan? Oh, that does not surprise me, but you know [05:19.320 --> 05:26.320] what? We're going to change that. We have two fraud closure mills in Connecticut and [05:26.320 --> 05:33.240] their average time to foreclose is four months. Well, we're going to make that go way up. [05:33.240 --> 05:39.120] Actually my goal is to make this take at least seven or eight years if we do it right. That [05:39.120 --> 05:45.320] is if they do succeed. So anyway, we designed a course. We're going to roll it out pretty [05:45.320 --> 05:52.320] soon. We decided on a very, very, very nominal and insignificant fee basically just for our [05:52.360 --> 05:57.640] time and just for the cost of putting all these books together. But essentially the [05:57.640 --> 06:03.440] plan is this, and there actually is a law firm in the works which hopefully that's going [06:03.440 --> 06:09.400] to be opened very soon, and I think this is going to be the area it specializes in. So [06:09.400 --> 06:16.280] it's pretty exciting, and it's a great plan, and I just wanted to call in and let you know [06:16.280 --> 06:23.000] that basically we have a way to reach a whole lot more people than we normally did because [06:23.000 --> 06:28.460] it's one thing to go case by case by case, but it's another thing to kind of get it into [06:28.460 --> 06:35.000] a format that more people in the general public can access. And believe it or not, even doing [06:35.000 --> 06:40.340] these individual cases, I mean, we've educated quite a few judges already. They're starting [06:40.340 --> 06:45.800] to take the robo-signing thing pretty seriously up here. They're starting to take on some [06:45.800 --> 06:50.400] of the equitable defenses. You were mentioning the, it's called the unclean hands doctrine [06:50.400 --> 06:52.280] up here. I know others... [06:52.280 --> 06:58.600] Okay. Yeah. So that's definitely coming to the foreground. We're actually bringing up [06:58.600 --> 07:03.800] the issue of what they're actually foreclosing because in a lot of cases, the description [07:03.800 --> 07:07.200] of the property and the complaint doesn't even match the one in their motion for summary [07:07.200 --> 07:14.520] judgment, let alone the one that actually exists and is in effect on the land records. [07:14.520 --> 07:21.200] So just to go over a few bonuses we're including with this, we have sample discovery pleadings. [07:21.200 --> 07:27.240] We actually have testimony from Arthur Schack. You guys might've heard of this judge from [07:27.240 --> 07:28.880] Kings County in New York. [07:28.880 --> 07:30.440] Yes, Judge Schack. [07:30.440 --> 07:36.360] I, his decisions are fairly entertaining to me. I believe in one instance, I think it [07:36.360 --> 07:44.040] was Bank of New York, Mellon v. Mulligan. I believe he entered an order sanctioning [07:44.040 --> 07:50.040] counsel for the bank and he described the whole MERS theory they had as something out [07:50.040 --> 07:55.520] of the twilight zone. And then he basically said that, you know, plaintiff's counsel [07:55.520 --> 08:01.980] is operating in a different foreclosure universe, which does not happen to be this one. So we've [08:01.980 --> 08:05.720] got some of that in there. We actually have a document from MERS that describes the whole [08:05.720 --> 08:12.960] process of shredding the note and making an electronic version, which they then sell. [08:12.960 --> 08:17.880] I don't know what your thoughts are on this, but as far as I'm concerned, you can't take [08:17.880 --> 08:23.240] a negotiable instrument like a check, shred it, make an electronic copy, print it out, [08:23.240 --> 08:26.440] bring it to the bank and expect to cash it five or six times. [08:26.440 --> 08:33.840] Well, though I agree with you on that point, there is a stipulation that what they are [08:33.840 --> 08:42.480] shredding is the note after it has been converted into a security. If the both exist at the [08:42.480 --> 08:45.800] same time, that's called double dipping and that's security. [08:45.800 --> 08:53.720] Wait, wait, wait. I'm taking a good look at this. There's a problem here with the use [08:53.720 --> 09:02.940] of the term security. We have a security instrument, which is the lien document. And the security [09:02.940 --> 09:14.480] instrument secures the note. The lender, once he gets the note, then takes the note and [09:14.480 --> 09:20.480] uses it as a security for a security instrument. [09:20.480 --> 09:23.360] As in mortgage backed security. [09:23.360 --> 09:28.840] Exactly. So we have three documents here and they're all called securities. It's caused [09:28.840 --> 09:38.200] a lot of confusion. The way I read the codes, the lender must send the note to the document [09:38.200 --> 09:45.320] custodian and the document custodian must certify to Ginnie Mae that the note meets [09:45.320 --> 09:52.440] the pool requirements. Then the document custodian is required to maintain possession of the [09:52.440 --> 09:59.360] note and all other documents in the, all of their loan documents, because everything is [09:59.360 --> 10:03.880] supposed to be sent to the document custodian. He used to maintain possession of those until [10:03.880 --> 10:13.460] termination of the contract. So this stuff about MERS getting the note, if it goes into [10:13.460 --> 10:21.360] a pool, the servicer gets the note, not MERS. I've thought from the beginning that was all [10:21.360 --> 10:30.880] horse manure to get us to go after MERS and not go back and look at the real issues. I'd [10:30.880 --> 10:33.620] never proceed that crap for a minute. Go ahead. [10:33.620 --> 10:39.920] There was a federal judge in Texas that, in his opinion, said that MERS could not have [10:39.920 --> 10:45.080] transferred the note because they were never a party to it. [10:45.080 --> 10:49.280] That was, wasn't it magistrate Austin out of Austin? [10:49.280 --> 10:54.920] No, it was a guy up in Fort Worth. You've had dealings with him, I think. [10:54.920 --> 10:57.320] Oh, tell me it's not McBride. [10:57.320 --> 11:00.400] Yes, McBride. Yes, yes, yes. [11:00.400 --> 11:03.040] McBride is such a stinker. [11:03.040 --> 11:09.640] Anyway, well, he was right on that point. He may have been wrong on every point previous, [11:09.640 --> 11:10.840] but he was right on that day. [11:10.840 --> 11:16.160] Yeah, I do remember reading that opinion by him, and it annoyed me because it was a good [11:16.160 --> 11:17.160] opinion. [11:17.160 --> 11:20.200] Yeah. I'm sorry, Dan, I didn't mean to interrupt you so long. [11:20.200 --> 11:22.400] You ruined all my fun. Go ahead, Dan. [11:22.400 --> 11:28.360] You reminded me of something that we've actually used up here. There was, believe it or not, [11:28.360 --> 11:34.720] a verified civil complaint filed by Lender Processing Services against Buy American Home [11:34.720 --> 11:40.080] Mortgage Servicing, Incorporated, and basically, in that suit, I mean, they're the servicer [11:40.080 --> 11:47.120] for Wells Fargo, but in that suit, they claim that Lender Processing Services used robo-signers. [11:47.120 --> 11:53.840] Okay? And they specifically noted a whole ton of robo-signers that I've already seen [11:53.840 --> 11:59.720] in many cases. We know who they are, but it's an 88-page verified civil complaint, but in [11:59.720 --> 12:04.720] Connecticut, what they're doing is they're bringing these documents to the court saying, [12:04.720 --> 12:11.440] oh, they're all 100% legitimate. Well, that's not what you said in the Texas court. What's [12:11.440 --> 12:13.440] the problem here, guys? [12:13.440 --> 12:14.720] Collateral estoppel. [12:14.720 --> 12:15.720] Yep. [12:15.720 --> 12:18.600] And aggravated perjury. [12:18.600 --> 12:27.240] Yes. So that wasn't included in the version of the course that we just did, but it will [12:27.240 --> 12:29.360] be included in the next revision. [12:29.360 --> 12:30.880] Wonderful. Wonderful. [12:30.880 --> 12:39.200] But basically, we are going to continue building this course as time goes on. So basically, [12:39.200 --> 12:43.880] what I intend to do anyway is if you take it once, you can take it as many times as [12:43.880 --> 12:50.760] you want again for free. But the whole plan is to get this knowledge widespread. [12:50.760 --> 12:55.760] Well, when are you going to send it to me so I can plagiarize it? [12:55.760 --> 12:59.040] Actually, I emailed it to you. [12:59.040 --> 13:02.720] And you haven't already plagiarized it? [13:02.720 --> 13:10.400] What I will do is on this map that I'm building, I'll be promoting this map as a free forensic [13:10.400 --> 13:17.280] analysis. I will put a Connecticut link and put your stuff on the Connecticut link. [13:17.280 --> 13:23.000] Well, here's the best part of the course, Randy. The first thing I want to say about [13:23.000 --> 13:28.200] it is it makes five assumptions. The first one is you're in Connecticut. The second one [13:28.200 --> 13:33.720] is you have a securitized loan. The third one is this is not a tax foreclosure. The [13:33.720 --> 13:38.040] fourth one is you're not dealing with some other type of foreclosure. And the fifth one [13:38.040 --> 13:44.720] is this is not a private note. Those assumptions in mind. The other thing you can take away [13:44.720 --> 13:50.160] from this course is I don't care what type of civil suit you're involved in. We go through [13:50.160 --> 13:55.060] all the pleadings that are generally filed. We start with the instant motion to dismiss, [13:55.060 --> 14:00.480] the request to revise, the motion to strike, the answer which comes with your counterclaim [14:00.480 --> 14:06.440] special defenses, the plaintiff's request to revise, the plaintiff's motion to strike, [14:06.440 --> 14:11.360] and the plaintiff's reply to special defenses. Then we move into summary judgment and assuming [14:11.360 --> 14:16.640] you did nothing and you sat on your thumbs the whole time, there's even a section on [14:16.640 --> 14:23.340] motions to open judgment. And we have two on there. And at the beginning of each part, [14:23.340 --> 14:29.560] we start out by saying what type of questions do you have to ask for this motion? For example, [14:29.560 --> 14:33.480] motion to strike. Is there a party that may have interest in this controversy? Is there [14:33.480 --> 14:38.720] a party that is improperly joined to this action? Does the plaintiff set forth facts [14:38.720 --> 14:43.280] that will support the type of relief they're looking for? I mean, questions like that. [14:43.280 --> 14:47.760] And then we actually put in, here's what the appellate court said about a motion to strike, [14:47.760 --> 14:54.200] assuming that's the chapter we're talking about. [14:54.200 --> 14:56.760] I am going to enjoy plagiarizing your work. [14:56.760 --> 15:01.800] Oh, you're, you're going to love this. We even have part five of the course talks about [15:01.800 --> 15:05.440] how to get your documents in order. And I, and I remember this was one of the things [15:05.440 --> 15:10.620] you definitely burned into my skull and I thank you so much for it every day I wake [15:10.620 --> 15:18.360] up and live and breathe. Basically, we teach people in this course how to get their documents [15:18.360 --> 15:22.960] together. We say, okay, go to the land records, do this, file a qualified written request. [15:22.960 --> 15:27.600] There's a sample at the end. File your, you know, Fair Debt Collections Practices Act [15:27.600 --> 15:32.760] debt validation letter. See what you get. But at the end, we say, look, write down your [15:32.760 --> 15:37.080] own narrative. Don't tell us how you feel about things. Don't tell us how wrong things [15:37.080 --> 15:42.760] are. Don't tell us about the way they should be. Just state in cold, hard facts based on [15:42.760 --> 15:47.840] the documents you've assembled going back 10 years before the note was created. [15:47.840 --> 15:58.640] Let me give you a suggestion. Ask them for a timeline. If you ask someone for a timeline, [15:58.640 --> 16:05.480] they will give you a statement of facts. If you ask them for a statement of facts or a [16:05.480 --> 16:12.000] narrative, they'll give you argument. That's effectively what we do. [16:12.000 --> 16:17.400] Yeah, it's kind of the difference between the legal definitions of what you're asking [16:17.400 --> 16:23.520] for in the common language understanding. People, when I ask for a timeline, they get [16:23.520 --> 16:30.360] it. This is what I really, I really want a statement of facts, but I have to explain [16:30.360 --> 16:35.600] what a statement of facts is. If I ask for a timeline, that's exactly what I get. [16:35.600 --> 16:41.280] Okay, hang on, Dan. We will be right back. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens here [16:41.280 --> 16:49.720] with Steve Skidmore talking to Dan, the troublemaker from Connecticut. The real deal. We'll be, [16:49.720 --> 16:55.880] or call him number 512-646-1984. Melissa, Doug, I see you there. We'll get you when [16:55.880 --> 17:24.760] we get back. We'll be right back. [17:26.760 --> 17:38.760] I want to know for sure. So come on, neutrify me. I love you. [17:38.760 --> 17:44.760] Did you know that you can extend your life by as much as 15% by taking the longevity [17:44.760 --> 17:50.760] products like tangy tangerine? My Mrs. lost so much weight by taking tangy tangerine, [17:50.760 --> 17:57.560] she eventually disappeared, which will probably let me live an extra 15 years. Go to logo [17:57.560 --> 18:01.560] straight beyond network.com and click the longevity banner. [18:01.560 --> 18:07.560] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters, or even lawsuits? 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That's ruleoflawradio.com or email [18:54.360 --> 19:14.040] m-i-c-h-a-e-l-m-i-r-r-a-s at yahoo.com to learn how to stop debt collectors now. [19:24.360 --> 19:46.840] Okay, we are back. [19:47.480 --> 19:49.640] He's going to fire you one of these days, Randy. [19:49.640 --> 19:56.760] Excuse me for laughing. I was picking on the producer. I always tell them, [19:56.760 --> 20:00.040] beep us, Bubba, because we get a long beep when we come in. [20:00.040 --> 20:01.480] That ain't what you said on this. [20:02.680 --> 20:09.160] It kind of came out Beamer's butthead. I don't know how that happened. Okay. [20:09.160 --> 20:10.360] Shame on you. [20:10.360 --> 20:12.600] We're going back to Dan in Connecticut. [20:13.240 --> 20:14.680] And he's such a nice guy. [20:14.680 --> 20:17.800] Really quickly, because I know you have a lot of guys on hold probably. [20:17.800 --> 20:24.600] Anyway, we conclude by basically telling the student, look, after you've finished doing [20:24.600 --> 20:29.240] all of that, write out what your desired outcomes would be, how acceptable they are. [20:29.240 --> 20:34.680] Because the problem is, of course, we tell them, try to consult an attorney, [20:34.680 --> 20:38.120] try to find an attorney. But we do actually go through the steps of, [20:38.120 --> 20:42.600] here's questions you should ask the attorney, like, do you deal with respite at all? [20:42.600 --> 20:48.040] Do you deal with teal at all? I mean, any of these other things that would apply. [20:48.040 --> 20:53.080] And we basically emphasize, and part of the purpose of this course when I was writing it, [20:53.720 --> 20:57.480] was I didn't just want to create an army of pro se's from hell. [20:58.280 --> 21:02.360] I wanted to raise the bar on what the bar is doing. [21:02.360 --> 21:06.040] And as a matter of fact, I've been very surprised working up here. [21:06.600 --> 21:08.520] They've been very responsive to me. [21:08.520 --> 21:13.000] And they've actually been including a lot of these things in their approach, which I found, [21:13.720 --> 21:17.800] you know, of course that complements me, but Randy, it definitely complements what you did. [21:19.080 --> 21:24.280] Which is great. But otherwise we go through, what does the motion look like? [21:24.280 --> 21:27.880] What is the caption? How do you get things on the short calendar? [21:27.880 --> 21:33.800] How do you mark motions on the short calendar? It's a lot of basic nuts and bolts stuff. [21:33.800 --> 21:43.160] Okay. This is a document that I have been trying to get Ken Magnussen to write for 10 years. [21:44.760 --> 21:48.280] You know how long it took me? Two days. [21:49.800 --> 21:50.760] You're annoying me. [21:53.080 --> 21:53.880] There was this one thing- [21:53.880 --> 21:57.080] It's okay, Randy. It won't take you 10 minutes to plagiarize it. [21:57.640 --> 21:58.680] That's right. [21:58.680 --> 22:01.080] Copy paste, copy paste. [22:01.080 --> 22:04.680] It also annoyed HSBC not but a week ago. [22:05.400 --> 22:10.360] They marked their motion off for a protective order and they didn't even [22:10.360 --> 22:12.440] tell my attorney friend that they weren't showing up. [22:14.680 --> 22:16.280] He should bill him for his time. [22:20.040 --> 22:25.640] I'm telling people in traffic when they're summoned down to court, what they'll do here [22:25.640 --> 22:30.280] in Texas, if you get a criminal issue and you fight it, they'll summon you to court. [22:30.280 --> 22:34.920] And then when you get there, they'll say it was continued. [22:36.200 --> 22:40.040] I had a friend of mine that's a truck driver and when he had to come to court, [22:40.040 --> 22:43.080] it would cost him a two-week run. That's six grand. [22:44.760 --> 22:46.040] I told him, bill him. [22:47.800 --> 22:51.640] They order you to come there and they don't have court? Bill him. [22:53.000 --> 22:56.920] Well, anyway, long story short, I don't want to keep anybody waiting, [22:56.920 --> 23:00.040] but my email is headlinecopyatgmail.com. [23:00.760 --> 23:03.400] This course is going to fill up really fast. [23:04.760 --> 23:10.760] It didn't take but two hours after I completed it to find people that were already wanting [23:10.760 --> 23:12.760] to know how to sign up for it. [23:12.760 --> 23:14.760] Headlinecopyat? [23:14.760 --> 23:16.280] Gmail.com. [23:16.280 --> 23:17.160] Gmail, okay. [23:18.600 --> 23:22.840] And as a matter of fact, I've even explored the option of the course. [23:22.840 --> 23:24.280] Okay, hold on, hold on. [23:24.280 --> 23:28.760] The course, explain how does the course work? [23:29.720 --> 23:33.320] Is this a book you've written or is it a presentation that you do? [23:34.200 --> 23:37.320] It is a book that goes with the presentation, [23:37.320 --> 23:41.080] but you could use the workbook alone as just a book. [23:42.440 --> 23:46.200] Okay, how are you going to do the presentation? Are you going to do video? [23:48.840 --> 23:53.160] We are actually going to be in the future using an audio projector. [23:53.160 --> 23:55.880] We're going to have a lot more sample documents that go with it. [23:56.680 --> 24:01.240] We're going to go through more real life examples of stuff we've worked with. [24:02.120 --> 24:05.640] Well, what I'm thinking is if you're going to do this, [24:07.240 --> 24:11.320] get you a quiet room where you can set up a video camera, [24:12.520 --> 24:16.760] and if you have one of these digital projectors, [24:16.760 --> 24:21.800] you can plug the projector right into your computer so you can [24:23.400 --> 24:32.040] project for the audience and you can also cut these projections and splice them into your movie. [24:32.920 --> 24:36.120] But make these things so you can put them on YouTube. [24:37.000 --> 24:43.320] Chris, what do you call it? I hate it when I lose words. [24:43.320 --> 24:51.960] Our producer, he's been doing YouTube videos and getting really good response. [24:54.360 --> 24:57.800] Oh, yeah. There's a lot of big plans into this. [24:57.800 --> 25:05.080] Some haven't been completely hashed out, but this, well, let's just put it to you this way. [25:05.080 --> 25:08.280] That four-month time frame that I mentioned earlier, [25:08.280 --> 25:12.920] it's going to go way up because a lot of these closure mills, they take people just out of law [25:12.920 --> 25:17.560] school, don't know how to file a pleading. As a matter of fact, I can verify this personally, [25:17.560 --> 25:22.120] they don't even file the correct affidavits of debt a lot of the times in cases. [25:23.160 --> 25:27.480] That'll get a case open real quick that they want on. [25:28.600 --> 25:34.520] So anyway, I will let you guys go ahead and resume, but I just wanted to share this. [25:34.520 --> 25:40.440] This is going to be big. So any questions about it, how to sign up, [25:40.440 --> 25:45.400] and I don't care where you're from, it could still benefit you because generally the motions are the same. [25:48.040 --> 25:53.160] Yeah, there are some things that you're mentioning that we don't have here, [25:53.160 --> 25:55.560] but I definitely want to look at your process. [25:55.560 --> 26:03.400] And have you looked at the free forensic analysis on the Remedies in Real Estate site? [26:04.600 --> 26:11.800] Yes, I have. And there is going to be in the future some way to incorporate that into our model. [26:11.800 --> 26:19.240] Call me, I'll tell you how to set that up. There is a way to structure your [26:19.240 --> 26:27.880] your folder set. You can take FreeMind, it's an open source mind mapping program, [26:29.080 --> 26:34.520] and if you set the folder structure up right, you can get FreeMind to go in and read it, [26:35.320 --> 26:41.800] and pop your whole folder structure up into a mind map. So you don't really have to create [26:41.800 --> 26:50.440] the mind map. If you just store your documentation in the right way, the mind map will read it and [26:50.440 --> 26:57.720] pop it right up. It really saves a lot of time. And I'll show you how that works. It's relatively [26:57.720 --> 27:03.080] simple once you understand how to do it. Okay, well anyway, just to make a long story short, [27:03.080 --> 27:09.800] headlinecopyatgmail.com, that's how to reach me. And if you go to our website, [27:09.800 --> 27:15.640] that's how to reach me. And the final thing I will say about this, and I do mention this [27:15.640 --> 27:21.160] in the course, they have a whole system, a whole standardized computerized system, [27:21.160 --> 27:25.640] where the servicer, the law firm, and the person who supposedly is interested in the mortgage work [27:25.640 --> 27:32.840] together. It's very impersonal, but this particular thing we're building is the good guy version of [27:32.840 --> 27:40.600] that, which it's very exciting. It just kind of got in my head earlier this week, and we talked [27:40.600 --> 27:46.600] about it, and things are moving real fast, and I'm so excited about this. Wonderful, wonderful. [27:46.600 --> 27:51.400] And I'm looking forward to plagiarizing your stuff. I do so like to plagiarize. [27:53.160 --> 27:57.800] Yeah, well, while you're at it, plagiarize my core warrant of victory. I don't know if I sent [27:57.800 --> 28:06.200] that over to you. I would like to do that. Yeah, he was using words like illegal and unlawful, [28:06.200 --> 28:10.280] describing what the town did, and I'm like, wow, he came down on them pretty hard. [28:11.560 --> 28:16.680] It would make us to spend 50 grand, and we spent what, $350 filing fee? We got someone [28:16.680 --> 28:22.360] thrown out of the public office. You did good. Okay, thank you, Dan. [28:22.920 --> 28:26.760] All right. No, thank you. And don't be a stranger. [28:26.760 --> 28:31.560] No, never try to be. We will confer very much more frequently in the future. [28:32.200 --> 28:38.680] Okey-doke. Thank you for calling. Now we're going to go to Melissa in Texas. Hello, [28:38.680 --> 28:44.520] Melissa. What do you have for us today? Well, I have a nightmare of a mess going on [28:44.520 --> 28:51.080] here in Texas. Last August, I filed with the attorney general to get child support [28:51.080 --> 28:57.000] or to get my ex to pay child support, and this is just so big of a mess. It would probably [28:57.000 --> 29:01.000] take me two hours to explain everything to you. So, I'm going to try to make it just [29:01.000 --> 29:04.600] as brief as possible without leaving out any very important detail. [29:07.560 --> 29:14.440] So, I filed with the attorney general in August. I did not hear back from them until December. [29:14.440 --> 29:22.040] So, in the meantime, in between August and September, my ex called CPS on me, and I was [29:22.040 --> 29:29.480] pregnant at the time. I went to the hospital where I was given a drug test without my consent. [29:32.360 --> 29:37.720] Okay, hang on. We're about to go to break. We will pick this up on the other side. This [29:37.720 --> 29:42.520] is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, here with our special guest, [29:42.520 --> 29:52.360] Steve Skidmore. I call in number 512-646-1984. I got two Doug's on. Oh, and they both have [29:52.360 --> 29:56.680] the same number. Okay, Doug, I see you there. We'll pick you up on the other side. We'll be right back. [30:00.440 --> 30:05.880] Some companies will do just about anything to make a buck, including manipulate your mind. [30:05.880 --> 30:09.960] Neuro marketers have their sights on your pocketbook and hope to make you offer them [30:09.960 --> 30:15.080] your subconscious can't refuse. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll tell you more in just a moment. [30:40.520 --> 30:46.120] Start over with StartPage. Great search results and total privacy. 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[33:28.280 --> 33:49.480] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens here with Steve Skidmore and we're talking to [33:49.480 --> 34:00.760] Melissa in Texas. Okay, you got the drug test without your permission. Yes, and the hospital [34:00.760 --> 34:08.280] called CPS, which that's a whole other lawsuit in itself and I've got everything documented and do [34:08.280 --> 34:15.000] plan on filing a lawsuit against them later, but for now I need to, my question is about this [34:15.000 --> 34:21.640] custody thing with the Attorney General. When I went to court... Wait a minute, custody or child [34:21.640 --> 34:29.880] support? Well, it was child support when I filed. It is now turned into custody and I'm not exactly [34:29.880 --> 34:36.680] sure what is going on. Okay, I don't think the Attorney General will have anything to do with [34:36.680 --> 34:46.600] custody. Well, they are telling me that I'm listed as the custodial parent for both of my girls and [34:46.600 --> 34:59.960] then when I go to court, the way it reads is that I am a respondent, not filing the suit, but like [34:59.960 --> 35:09.880] the Attorney General is representing my children and it's me and my ex against the children. It's [35:09.880 --> 35:18.760] very confusing. Okay, the Attorney General is acting as a guardian or an attorney ad litem? [35:18.760 --> 35:29.880] Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Well, while we were there, okay, my ex gave them a paper from CPS. Now, [35:29.880 --> 35:36.840] I've never seen this paper before and still have not seen it at this point. He handed it to the [35:36.840 --> 35:42.760] Attorney General and I told them then that I did not agree and I wanted to see the paper. They [35:42.760 --> 35:50.760] denied me an opportunity to see what the paper said. Okay, hold on. What kind of a hearing or [35:50.760 --> 36:02.600] meeting was this? This was just a court date to establish child support and custody of the [36:02.600 --> 36:15.720] children, the custodial parent. Okay, so this was an actual hearing? Yes, it was what it was [36:15.720 --> 36:24.920] supposed to be. We were not in a courtroom. We were in an office and had the Attorney General [36:24.920 --> 36:29.080] not called him, your honor, I would have had no clue we were even speaking to a judge. [36:29.080 --> 36:36.040] Anyway, she gave the judge this paper from CPS that I have no access to get because the case [36:36.040 --> 36:42.920] has not been closed. I signed their safety plan for 30 days or whatever and I upheld my end of [36:42.920 --> 36:51.000] the contract and they did not. The baby and me both were negative for drugs when she was born [36:51.000 --> 36:56.680] and so the drug test was, well, that's a whole other issue, but I did not have access to the [36:56.680 --> 37:02.760] you know the drug test was, well, that's a whole other issue. It was a fake. It was a false result [37:02.760 --> 37:14.600] anyways. So did you have a controlled drug test done? I don't know what kind of drug test was [37:14.600 --> 37:20.440] done because I mean did you have one? Okay, if they had, oh never mind, you didn't know they [37:20.440 --> 37:27.640] did the drug test. Right, right. So yeah and the lady, the nurse came in and said that you know [37:27.640 --> 37:31.800] they had performed a drug test and that I was positive for methamphetamines and I demanded [37:31.800 --> 37:38.280] another drug test right then and there and they refused. That's when you go get your own. That's [37:38.280 --> 37:45.160] the controlled test that Randy was mentioning. Right and then I signed their safety plan under [37:45.160 --> 37:50.040] duress because the lady at CPS told me that if I didn't sign it that I wouldn't leave the hospital [37:50.040 --> 37:56.760] with my baby. You know I had no idea what was going on. You know I've since then been educated [37:57.560 --> 38:03.160] as to what they can and cannot do. They can't threaten you with taking away your child. [38:04.280 --> 38:12.680] Exactly, right. I know that now. Well, so this you know CPS case, I can't get any of the records [38:12.680 --> 38:18.360] right now because the case has not been closed, but what I want to know is how did my ex, how was [38:18.360 --> 38:25.240] he able to get uh you know any of the records from this case? Okay this is something I'm not [38:25.240 --> 38:31.800] knowledgeable of, but I do have someone that I'm trying to get on the show as a guest [38:31.800 --> 38:36.760] who is knowledgeable in this area. She used, she worked for CPS for a long time [38:38.360 --> 38:45.720] and quit because what they were doing wasn't legal and I'm trying to get her on the show, [38:45.720 --> 38:53.000] but I don't have her on yet. This is not an area I can give you definitive answers on. [38:54.520 --> 39:01.080] Can you send me an email? Randy at Rule of Law Radio and I will get a hold of this other woman [39:01.080 --> 39:10.600] and get you two together. Okay. So she can give you some ideas of what to do and she may be able [39:10.600 --> 39:18.680] to to act as a consultant. There is a law in Texas, it's called a legal practice of law, [39:19.400 --> 39:29.960] 38.123 Texas Penal Code and it makes it illegal for anyone who is not an attorney to represent [39:29.960 --> 39:41.000] someone else in a wrongful injury suit. Okay. That's all it goes to. You can have someone [39:41.000 --> 39:52.200] who's not an attorney represent you in a child, a child custody issue. The judge judges will nearly [39:52.200 --> 39:59.320] will generally object to it and with good cause because if you've got some idiot like me in there, [40:01.640 --> 40:05.720] I can see why the judge would get excited. But if they've got someone who is knowledgeable, [40:05.720 --> 40:10.840] it doesn't necessarily have to be an attorney. I have a friend who does that on occasion and he is [40:10.840 --> 40:17.480] very knowledgeable and the judges tend to accept his assistance. So I would like to get you at [40:17.480 --> 40:24.040] least to talk to her and she can give you a good idea of what your situation is and what CPS is [40:24.040 --> 40:32.600] required to do. Okay. The other thing is as far as this paper against me, they've not filed it [40:32.600 --> 40:38.920] as evidence against me and the judge is the one that's in possession of this paper now and I [40:38.920 --> 40:44.120] objected whenever she handed him the paper and stated, you know, assuming fact not in evidence [40:44.120 --> 40:52.360] because it's not, nothing had been filed. So wait a minute, hold on. Okay. Judge cannot be [40:52.360 --> 41:01.080] in possession of this evidence unless it's been filed in the record. I know this, but this is what [41:01.080 --> 41:07.240] happened right in front of me, you know, and I objected to that and he did not suspend or, you [41:07.240 --> 41:11.800] know, he just did not say anything. Okay. It wouldn't matter if they put it in the record or [41:11.800 --> 41:22.360] not Randy, she can't get a copy of the record. Yeah. She can petition the, okay, this is a [41:22.360 --> 41:27.960] family court. You can petition the court of appeals, family court's essentially a district [41:27.960 --> 41:36.840] court, petition the court of appeals for Ritamandamis, ordering the court to give you [41:36.840 --> 41:43.480] in-camera access to the document accepted by the court into evidence against you in violation of [41:43.480 --> 41:48.680] rules of evidence. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was wanting. A move to strike the, [41:49.880 --> 41:57.640] strike the document and disqualify the court. Okay. Okay. Good. I'm writing that down. Okay, [41:57.640 --> 42:03.000] good. So. Okay, wait a minute, hold on. How long ago was this blood test done? [42:03.000 --> 42:10.040] Well, it was a urine test and it was October 28th of last year. When was the last time [42:10.040 --> 42:19.400] you cut all your hair off? It's been a long time. Could only test the first couple of inches. [42:20.360 --> 42:25.160] Yeah. Well, they actually, you know, I was reading that the hair follicle test is not, [42:26.440 --> 42:31.480] you know, not for, not follicle, the hair itself, you can do a spectrograph on it. [42:31.480 --> 42:37.800] You can have the hair tested and it will tell. Right. Well, they sent the hermitonium off, [42:37.800 --> 42:43.000] you know, her, the baby's first, you know, poop or whatever. And it tests for everything [42:43.000 --> 42:48.680] through your entire pregnancy. And when the test, this is what I'm assuming is on this paper [42:48.680 --> 42:53.640] that was handed to the judge. The results. Wait a minute, wait, were you in hospital to have a baby? [42:53.640 --> 43:00.360] He was. Okay. I'm not sure I understand this. At the time you were in the hospital, [43:00.360 --> 43:08.920] did, were you there to have a baby? Yes. Oh, okay. So they tested the child right after it was born? [43:10.120 --> 43:17.240] Yes. And the urine was okay. Okay. The child did not show positive for methamphetamines? [43:17.240 --> 43:27.800] No, the child did not. She did not test positive for any drugs. Explain that, Lucy. [43:29.080 --> 43:37.000] How could you have? Okay. You probably got a good, strong case. You're going to break. [43:37.000 --> 43:43.480] Yes. Going to break. And I have somebody I can refer you to, but you send me an email [43:43.480 --> 43:48.680] and I've also got a lawyer who does family law. I can refer you to, this is Randy Kelton, [43:48.680 --> 43:55.640] Deborah Stevens. We do our radio here with Steve Skidmore. We'll be right back on the other side. [44:01.720 --> 44:07.480] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the internet isn't so easy. [44:07.480 --> 44:12.040] And neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of [44:12.040 --> 44:17.560] Brave New Books then. Brave New Books? Yes. Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're [44:17.560 --> 44:23.080] looking for by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Angie Edward Griffin. They even stock inner food, [44:23.080 --> 44:28.760] Berkey products, and Calvin soaps. There's no way a place like that exists. Go check it out [44:28.760 --> 44:35.640] for yourself. It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT. By UT, there's never [44:35.640 --> 44:40.840] anywhere to park down there. Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers [44:40.840 --> 44:48.520] at the 500 MLK parking facility, just behind the bookstore. It does exist, but when are they open? [44:48.520 --> 44:54.200] Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays. So give them a call at [44:54.200 --> 45:00.120] 512-480-2503 or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com. [45:02.360 --> 45:07.480] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? Win your case without an attorney with [45:07.480 --> 45:15.160] Jurisdictionary, the affordable, easy to understand 4CD course that will show you how in 24 hours, [45:15.160 --> 45:21.400] step by step. If you have a lawyer, know what your lawyer should be doing. If you don't have a [45:21.400 --> 45:27.400] lawyer, know what you should do for yourself. Thousands have won with our step-by-step course, [45:27.400 --> 45:34.120] and now you can too. Jurisdictionary was created by a licensed attorney with 22 years of case [45:34.120 --> 45:39.560] winning experience. Even if you're not in a lawsuit, you can learn what everyone should [45:39.560 --> 45:45.320] understand about the principles and practices that control our American courts. You'll receive [45:45.320 --> 45:53.000] our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, forms for civil cases, pro se tactics, and much [45:53.000 --> 46:08.040] more. Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner or call toll-free 866-LAW-EASY. [46:23.000 --> 46:34.120] Oh, yeah. Always, I must be careful what I'm wishing for. When I'm hungry, I like to know [46:34.120 --> 46:41.240] just what I'm fishing for. I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton. [46:42.760 --> 46:46.040] I'm just here making my living, pushing buttons. [46:46.040 --> 46:58.040] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, [46:58.920 --> 47:01.320] and I'm having way too much fun with my producer. [47:01.960 --> 47:02.760] Yes, you are. [47:03.800 --> 47:10.840] Okay, Melissa, send us an email and I'll get you in touch with a lawyer and this consultant, [47:10.840 --> 47:15.960] and they can probably help you sort this thing out. Okay, we are going to go to, wait a minute, [47:15.960 --> 47:20.840] hold on. Do you have another question or comment for us, Melissa? [47:23.000 --> 47:27.480] No, actually, thank you for all the information and I'm going to, [47:27.480 --> 47:31.560] I will definitely follow up with this lady that you're going to give me her information. [47:31.560 --> 47:36.920] Okay, just send an email to Randy at Rule of Law Radio and I'll get you in touch with her. [47:38.120 --> 47:39.480] All right, I appreciate you. [47:39.480 --> 47:47.480] Okay, thank you. Now we're going to go to Doug in Texas, if I can get my mouse to get to him. [47:47.480 --> 47:48.360] There you go, Doug. [47:51.160 --> 47:52.120] Got me, Randy. [47:52.760 --> 47:53.400] I got you. [47:53.960 --> 47:59.800] All right. Hey, I want to talk to my good friend, Steve Skidmore. [47:59.800 --> 48:00.520] Hello, Doug. [48:00.520 --> 48:14.440] Hey, if you enjoyed yesterday as much as I did, I spent one solid hour stopped in traffic so that [48:14.440 --> 48:26.840] our potentates are, let's see, what is the dictator, the, you know, just whatever this guy [48:26.840 --> 48:35.400] supposed to be that we're supposed to stop all traffic in Austin for an hour, you sit there, [48:35.400 --> 48:40.600] turn off your car, you want to say yes, whatever. I mean... [48:41.640 --> 48:43.400] Wait a minute, who are you talking about? [48:45.720 --> 48:50.760] The, uh, Mr. Obama came into town, remember? [48:52.200 --> 48:54.040] No, I don't remember. He, was he in Texas? [48:54.040 --> 48:58.200] Yeah, he was here not too long ago. I thought you might've been talking about Governor Goodhair. [48:59.480 --> 49:04.600] No, he was here yesterday, yesterday. And I stopped, [49:06.360 --> 49:15.560] I'd go down Pierce Lane to go to Austin where I carry out my little jobs and everything. [49:15.560 --> 49:21.000] And they stopped me and said, you'll have to sit here for an hour or two, maybe an hour and a half. [49:21.000 --> 49:33.080] That's how I was going to be on 71. And I got on that and they had stopped traffic in this city [49:34.440 --> 49:36.280] for El Presidente [49:39.000 --> 49:40.200] for a solid hour. [49:41.240 --> 49:41.740] Okay. [49:41.740 --> 49:43.320] Unbelievable or what? [49:43.320 --> 49:51.560] Well, I guess they can do that. Did you have a question or an issue other than just, uh, [49:52.360 --> 49:53.320] the Obominator? [49:56.600 --> 49:59.240] Well, didn't you vote for him? Twice? [50:00.920 --> 50:03.720] Yeah, I voted for him six times. [50:05.400 --> 50:11.000] That's what I thought. I had heard that. I was down at Brave New Books and they were talking [50:11.000 --> 50:24.680] about Doug, uh, I voted for him six times. Cause I believe in hope and change and get it. [50:25.400 --> 50:28.120] We're going to start calling him Doug Obama buddy. [50:32.920 --> 50:35.880] We could, we could call him Doug the Obominator. [50:35.880 --> 50:49.400] Randy, let's get serious about this. You know, they, they stopped me and going to work. [50:50.040 --> 50:57.880] And now on the way home, they cleared the highway out cause I, I took a circuit to this was route [50:57.880 --> 51:07.640] getting home and I went down such and such and I bypassed 71 and they had stopped everybody, [51:07.640 --> 51:17.160] like probably 50, 60,000 people just to make, make my way. Just I'm riding down the road. [51:17.160 --> 51:22.280] I can't see anybody behind me or before me. It was amazing. [51:22.280 --> 51:26.440] Okay. [51:26.440 --> 51:33.560] Take some little potate or some little, uh, taro or, uh. [51:34.360 --> 51:37.720] He may be little, but you better watch out. His wife's not little. [51:39.400 --> 51:40.680] She whooped the both of us. [51:41.560 --> 51:44.040] I think she wears the trousers around the house. [51:44.040 --> 51:48.360] I was surprised at how, you know, I thought when I saw him together, [51:48.360 --> 51:53.240] I thought Obama was a small man, but it's not. She's a pretty good sized woman. [51:55.160 --> 52:07.080] Well, Obama weighs 130 pounds, six feet tall. I'm counting on Steve Skidmore, [52:08.200 --> 52:14.920] my good buddy, that I don't even have your phone number. Can't even call you. I wish you could call [52:14.920 --> 52:26.360] me. Okay. I really need to move along. Okay. Thank you, Doug. [52:27.160 --> 52:27.960] All right. [52:29.960 --> 52:37.560] Okay. Now we're going to go to Michael in Texas. Hello, Michael. What do you have for us today? [52:38.520 --> 52:41.720] Well, Randy, I just wanted to say thanks again for [52:41.720 --> 52:47.400] being there and stuff to tell everybody, you know, what, you know, such good advice. [52:48.600 --> 52:54.840] You know, of course, this is Mike at the North Texas. You know me and we met at the Jeff Davis [52:54.840 --> 52:58.920] show in 2007 before I left. Okay. I remember that. [52:59.800 --> 53:04.120] Yup. Well, you know, if you remember stuff in the past month, I've called in a couple [53:04.120 --> 53:08.760] of times because I've been doing this. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. Okay. Bring everybody back up. [53:08.760 --> 53:13.640] Do you have a question about those issues? If you do bring everybody back up to speed. [53:15.160 --> 53:21.160] Well, bringing everybody back up to speed really quite, really quickly. My parents had a, [53:22.440 --> 53:28.200] one of those prepaid funeral agreements back in 1980. The company that was supposed to be [53:28.200 --> 53:33.160] keeping the records failed to do so other than an electronic record of the policy [53:33.160 --> 53:39.560] and the funeral home and just decided, well, that policy doesn't exist, so we don't have to [53:39.560 --> 53:45.720] do anything about it. I went to corporate, got a corporate officer involved, and we did get a [53:45.720 --> 53:51.640] successful resolution to that yesterday. We had a meeting with the funeral director of that [53:51.640 --> 53:58.440] particular funeral home here yesterday, my brother and mom and I, and we were able to get a [53:58.440 --> 54:03.960] we were able to get a satisfactory resolution on that. However, leads me to my second question, [54:04.760 --> 54:09.880] uh, actually my first of the evening, sometimes, you know, when you start pulling on a thread, [54:09.880 --> 54:14.280] you know, you say, well, I shouldn't have started pulling that because it pulls into something else. [54:15.720 --> 54:23.240] When we were going through the contract, we, uh, my mom found the deed to the land at the cemetery, [54:23.240 --> 54:28.520] you know, for some funeral plots that she had also purchased at the same time. The funeral home, [54:28.520 --> 54:34.200] I mean, the funeral, excuse me, the cemetery, I should say, was in private hands at the time [54:34.920 --> 54:41.480] that she purchased a number of lots and a certain section of land in that cemetery. [54:43.080 --> 54:49.560] Within the last five or ten years, the cemetery has been sold to the city of Wichita Falls. [54:49.560 --> 54:54.040] When it was sold to the city, they found out that there was some kind of health regulation [54:54.760 --> 55:00.920] that required a concrete vault to be installed in the ground when you inter somebody. [55:02.120 --> 55:12.200] The original deed specifies ten spaces of land for burial, and the requirement at that time was only [55:12.200 --> 55:20.680] a wooden box to be put in the ground before the casket is interred. So that change in the [55:20.680 --> 55:28.360] health regulations, uh, made and created some changes to the actual usage of the land when [55:28.360 --> 55:36.600] actually, you know, interning it. So now we don't have ten spaces, we have seven because the extra [55:36.600 --> 55:42.680] feet is now taken up by some kind of bogus regulation that the health department had come [55:42.680 --> 55:48.920] up with. I don't know if it's a state or, I'm pretty sure it's a state health regulation. [55:49.800 --> 55:54.680] So, in essence, we've actually lost three burial plots in that particular cemetery. [55:54.680 --> 56:03.560] They're no fault of our own. So I contacted the Texas funeral services commission, and they in [56:03.560 --> 56:09.880] for me that in order to find out what can be done, I'm going to have to, or me and my mother are [56:09.880 --> 56:15.560] going to have to talk to the city attorney about trying to find out a resolution on this. [56:16.280 --> 56:22.120] Now me, I don't like dealing with attorneys and stuff, and as little as I possibly can. So I was [56:22.120 --> 56:27.880] wondering if you could try to provide me some kind of advice as to how I should proceed dealing with [56:27.880 --> 56:38.120] the city attorney. Okay, I got a couple suggestions. Maybe we should get Steve, he's from [56:38.760 --> 56:45.160] Wichita Falls up in that area, Vernon. But one thing, make sure you take a recorder with you [56:45.160 --> 56:51.880] and put it on the table in front of you every time you talk to him. Avoid telephone conversations, [56:51.880 --> 56:58.280] ask him to make everything in writing, and bar-grieve him every time you get a chance. [56:59.480 --> 57:06.200] I've been boning up on the bar grievance website, so I've been looking up that process, [57:06.200 --> 57:11.400] getting ready for it. Okay, Steve, you have a suggestion? You're from up in that area? [57:12.040 --> 57:17.560] No, I wouldn't have anything to add to that. It's been so long since I've been up there, [57:17.560 --> 57:23.960] man, it's been over a decade since I've been up in that area, but it's been about a decade. [57:25.640 --> 57:35.320] I suspect that because this was a statutory change, that the city is not going to be [57:35.320 --> 57:45.560] responsible for your loss. I don't see how they could be. If you already have a statutory change, [57:45.560 --> 57:50.200] if you already had somebody buried there and they wanted to [57:52.280 --> 58:00.440] cause you to pull them up and put them in concrete crypts, then you might have some grounds. [58:00.440 --> 58:06.200] But you've had no harm accrued yet, and when you attempt to bury someone there, [58:06.200 --> 58:10.760] then you'll have to comply with current law. I can't see you getting much traction. [58:10.760 --> 58:15.720] Okay. Okay, hang on, we're about to go to our, [58:16.440 --> 58:20.840] I think it's our top of the hour break. Yep. Okay, the top of the hour break. [58:25.800 --> 58:30.200] Okay, did you say you were done, Mike? No, I've still got a few things to add. I'll [58:30.200 --> 58:33.560] hang on until the break. Okay, we'll pick you up on the other side. [58:33.560 --> 58:42.520] This is Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens here with Steve Skidmore. Our call-in number 512-646-1984. [58:42.520 --> 59:05.240] Give us a call. We'll be right back. [59:42.520 --> 59:49.640] 551-0102, or visit us online at bfa.org. [01:00:12.520 --> 01:00:20.440] John Bush here with your Liberty Beat for May 3rd, 2013. Gold opened today at $1,464, [01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:27.480] silver at $23.84, and bitcoin is trading at $80.46. Support for the Liberty Beat comes [01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:31.800] from Capital City Automotive, honest, reliable, and affordable auto repair for vehicles foreign [01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:37.880] and domestic. Located at 1802 South Congress, buy phone at 512-447-2886, [01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:44.760] and online at capitalcityautoaustin.com. And now the news. According to a poll conducted [01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:49.880] by the Farley Dickerson University, 29% of registered voters think that an armed revolution [01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:54.200] may be unavoidable in the next few years to preserve our civil liberties. 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According to a new scientific [01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.720] study completed by the University of California Berkeley, several metals found inside lipsticks [01:01:39.720 --> 01:01:44.280] and chapsticks could be carcinogous and dangerous to long-term health. Products included inside the [01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:48.840] generic store-bought lipstick compounds were chromium, aluminum, cadmium, and of course lead. [01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.080] Study also proved that many of the lip products contained very high concentrations of aluminum [01:01:53.080 --> 01:01:57.560] and titanium, according to the San Jose Mercury News. In addition, lipsticks were found to [01:01:57.560 --> 01:02:02.360] overwhelmingly contain hexavalent chromium, which is a carcinogen linked strongly to developing [01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:06.840] stomach cancer in individuals. This current time, the FDA does not regulate the high content [01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:10.840] of heavy metals found in lipstick and cosmetic materials sold throughout North America. [01:02:16.200 --> 01:02:20.520] The National Rifle Association is meeting in Houston, Texas this weekend and already [01:02:20.520 --> 01:02:24.760] drawing crowds to the amount of tens of thousands of people after recent efforts to exert new gun [01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:29.320] control legislation in the U.S. Congress failed. According to Reuters, 70,000 people are expected [01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.440] to appear at the conference and rally dubbed the Stand and Fight Rally, which will feature [01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.920] keynote speakers like Glenn Beck and politicians including Governor Rick Perry of Texas and Governor [01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:41.960] Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. Houston, currently the United States' fourth largest city in population, [01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:46.520] is already experiencing heightened security after a man shot his firearm at Houston's George Bush [01:02:46.520 --> 01:02:50.600] Intercontinental Airport and was later shot dead on the spot, apparently by an agent of the [01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:54.360] Department of Homeland Security. This time, conflicting reports relay the man either [01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:58.680] committed suicide or was murdered by an agent of Homeland Security. However, no evidence exists [01:02:58.680 --> 01:03:16.920] that it was in fact a suicide. [01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:55.560] Okay, we are back. Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Wheel of Law Radio, [01:03:55.560 --> 01:04:03.000] and we're talking to Michael in Texas. Okay, Michael, you had a couple more questions or [01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:10.200] comments. Yes, I certainly do, Randy. Just to get everybody popped in after the break and stuff up [01:04:10.200 --> 01:04:18.840] to speed, my question was concerning a two-party contract that a city and stuff had become part of [01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:27.640] through the sale of a property to the city that had originally been in private hands. In this [01:04:27.640 --> 01:04:34.040] case, it's a cemetery and like I said, I was directed by the Texas Funeral Services Commission [01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:41.720] who is in charge of funeral parlors and cemeteries and funeral homes, that type of thing, to contact [01:04:41.720 --> 01:04:49.560] the city attorney in order to gain a resolution. The reason I said it was a two-party contract is [01:04:49.560 --> 01:04:57.240] that the cemetery originally, and at the time the original burial plots, 10 in this case of certain [01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:05.800] square footage and stuff, at the time when the requirement was only for a below ground wooden [01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:12.520] box in order to enter somebody when they dug the grave, that was the requirement and it was [01:05:13.160 --> 01:05:20.280] between my parents and the cemetery. The cemetery has since been sold to the city, [01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:30.920] so now the city has to comply with... Okay, did the plot designate x number of plots [01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:40.840] or x square feet? Okay, here's the... I have the deed in front of me and the deed says [01:05:41.720 --> 01:05:49.720] certain square feet. Now, there is an attachment to the deed that the city provided at the sale [01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:58.440] that had a printed layout of the spaces and it designates 10 spaces. [01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:04.120] But 10 spaces is not listed on the deed, it is listed on the attachment to the deed. [01:06:04.680 --> 01:06:11.880] Okay, you're probably not going to have much of a case, because in purchasing the property, [01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:18.520] you purchased a certain size property under the presumption that you would have [01:06:18.520 --> 01:06:30.840] 10 burial plots in that amount of space. Now, you certainly could have spread the plots out [01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:42.520] if you wanted to and only buried five in the space. So, I can't see where... If the city did [01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:50.040] not decrease the number of square feet that you had, but the state came in and said, [01:06:50.040 --> 01:06:56.920] from this point forward, graves must be this size because of the concrete crypt. [01:06:59.160 --> 01:07:05.240] This doesn't go to expo facto, so I can't see where you would have a claim. [01:07:05.240 --> 01:07:13.320] Well, I guess the only place I was thinking that we had a claim was the last time we went to the [01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:19.160] cemetery before we started, you know, just to check on the spaces and the land, make sure [01:07:19.160 --> 01:07:26.360] everything was still there and kept properly. We've noticed that there's somebody else buried [01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:32.600] on that tract of land that was actually partially buried in our tract of land that we had purchased [01:07:32.600 --> 01:07:39.080] that had had the overhang piece of that. It's on a corner part of the spot. [01:07:39.080 --> 01:07:43.720] Okay, is this since the time the city owned it? [01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:48.440] Yeah, this was after the city owned it. [01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:50.840] Good, now you got something. [01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:59.560] Yeah, we were never even notified that there was any kind of a change to the law that was going on [01:07:59.560 --> 01:08:07.960] to affect us, knowing that we owned that piece of property when this private ownership was sold to [01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:21.160] the city. There was no notification and stuff that I can find that anyone was ever notified that [01:08:21.160 --> 01:08:27.000] the sale of this cemetery had occurred indeed to the city to begin with. [01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:39.880] Well, that might not be near, that'd be kind of a dead issue, but what is not a dead issue is they [01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:48.680] sold you a piece of property that was being used. There's no way you can use that piece of property [01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:53.560] because it's already occupied by a dead guy. I hate to put it so blunt, but... [01:08:53.560 --> 01:09:00.120] Well, let me re-qualify that and stuff. My grandmother had been interred there and stuff [01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:09.080] before the sale. The adjacent space next to her was on that tract of land, and that was where [01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:16.360] my aunt was wanting to be buried. Next to that plot was another plot that we did not own, [01:09:16.360 --> 01:09:24.920] but because of this concrete crypt regulation and stuff, when they interred someone in the [01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:33.320] piece of the lot next to it, that we didn't... Right, yeah, you're going to lose space because [01:09:33.320 --> 01:09:39.320] of the concrete vault. Now you have a claim against the city. [01:09:39.320 --> 01:09:44.360] The fact that these people didn't have enough room to bury that person is their problem, [01:09:44.360 --> 01:09:50.440] not your problem. The city's going to tell you that the state law change and the fact that you [01:09:50.440 --> 01:09:56.840] can only bury seven people instead of 10 is your problem, not our problem. So now you can go back [01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:05.000] and say, I can only bury six people and not seven, and that is your problem, not my problem. [01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:12.520] That is your problem, not my problem. Now either dig that guy up and chuck him out in a road [01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:21.160] somewhere, or let's make a deal and give me enough space to bury my 10, and I won't make you dig up [01:10:21.160 --> 01:10:27.880] the dead guy. Yeah, I'm looking at the attachment now and stuff, and it identifies the blocked lot [01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:35.960] number, number of spaces 10. It was a lot owner is my father, and it has his name on it, and it says [01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:43.000] the date of purchase. This was originally purchased in 1977. So this piece of property has been owned [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:51.000] in the family for several, several, 40 years. Now is the requirement for the concrete vault [01:10:51.000 --> 01:11:03.000] prior to or post 77? Post 77. Post 77, okay. On that, you're not going to have a claim, but. [01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:08.520] Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, Randy. If they'd purchased that property in 77 and [01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:13.640] somebody parked some dead guy's vault on their property. That part they have a claim on. [01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:21.160] The fact that the state widened the plot size, that's not something the city would [01:11:21.160 --> 01:11:28.920] have control over. Correct, correct. But the fact that the city let somebody else [01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:38.120] bury someone on your property, that's something they have control over. Now in the end, [01:11:38.120 --> 01:11:46.520] it's all about the politics. Now you go back, is there space around your plots so that you [01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:52.680] could expand your plot to take up the extra distance? Actually, there's a roadway that [01:11:53.640 --> 01:12:00.760] surrounds that area and stuff, and it's a corner tract. The only thing that we could do as far as [01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:08.120] a compromise would be to maybe add- Wait a minute, I am losing you....and stuff to say, [01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:17.000] well, look, we're supposed to have 10 spaces here. Now we only have six or seven. Is there [01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:24.440] another piece of property in the same cemetery? We'd be willing to go for that and stuff because, [01:12:24.440 --> 01:12:29.480] like I said, the requirement and stuff to change it to a concrete vault I think has only been in the [01:12:29.480 --> 01:12:34.040] last few years. Like I said, we've already owned that piece of property since 1977, [01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:43.080] and I'm looking at the deed in here and stuff, and it says, like I said, on the deed where it's [01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:50.440] recorded in Woodstock County, Texas, hereby referred to and made part of, which said, [01:12:50.440 --> 01:12:56.280] lock contains approximately 400 superficial square feet. On the deed, like I said, it doesn't mention [01:12:56.280 --> 01:13:01.880] how many spaces, but like I said, the attachment to the deed, which was part of the original deed [01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:12.360] when it was sold, does designate it as 10 spaces. Yeah, I don't think... If the space size at the [01:13:12.360 --> 01:13:21.960] time was smaller, you're not going to get back past new law. This is not going to be the kind [01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:27.080] of thing that you would be grandfathered on because the people to be buried in the locations [01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:32.840] haven't been buried yet, so there won't be any way to go back, and especially if they claimed [01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:42.280] a health issue. Okay. But my concern was if you had a two-party contract between two private [01:13:42.280 --> 01:13:50.520] parties that now a city and stuff has been made part of by the sale of the property, [01:13:50.520 --> 01:14:00.360] the city is in a contract with you just as if it was another person. Now, if you sue the city [01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:08.040] over this issue, the city has no immunity in this issue. This goes to the fathelka. [01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:17.160] When the city engages in commerce, it waives its sovereign immunity. [01:14:17.160 --> 01:14:23.000] And here, the city in purchasing a commercial business, they're dealing in commerce, so they [01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:33.160] have no immunity, so you can sue the snot out of them and claim all sorts of emotional distress [01:14:33.160 --> 01:14:39.560] because now your whole family can't be buried there, and you planned on this for almost half [01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:47.240] a century, and now the city's screwed it all up. Get them to make you a deal. [01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.040] All right. It's all about the deal in the end anyway. [01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:58.600] Just out of curiosity, Michael, and just strictly curiosity, I'm not [01:14:59.480 --> 01:15:03.720] needing names or anything, but is this place off the Seymour Highway or out by Lake Wichita? [01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:08.200] It's actually off the Southwest Parkway. Southwest, okay. [01:15:08.200 --> 01:15:10.520] I know the one you're talking about. [01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:17.640] It's been in private hands since I believe it was opened until, [01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.680] like I said, I don't know exactly when the city took it over, [01:15:22.360 --> 01:15:28.440] but I do know that I was a resident of Austin at the time when the sale occurred. [01:15:28.440 --> 01:15:37.080] And like I said, once the city bought it and took it over, then they became engaged and stuff [01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:44.440] with all the state requirements and stuff, and that's when the vault size was increased. [01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:52.360] As far as I know, there was no notification of any of the property owners out there who had [01:15:52.360 --> 01:15:57.320] purchased land out there on that cemetery, because I asked my mom, did you ever get a [01:15:57.320 --> 01:16:01.160] letter from the city or anything saying that they were having to deal with all [01:16:01.160 --> 01:16:06.200] these other regulations, and she said no. You might go look at how this regulation [01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:15.960] is implemented. Is it a rule, a regulation, or a statute? If it's a rule or regulation, [01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:19.960] and the rule or regulation breaches your contract, they can wipe their behind [01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:25.240] with their rule or regulation. If it's not a statute, then it's not law. [01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:27.180] Right. [01:16:28.120 --> 01:16:32.280] So look up the statute, see how it was passed, who passed it, when they passed it. [01:16:33.400 --> 01:16:35.960] Good chance it's not a statute at all, just a rule. [01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:41.000] Okay, we're going to move ahead. Thank you, Michael. [01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:47.880] Okay, my question was, where would I begin to find out about that information? [01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:51.320] About that information? Get that on the other side of the break. [01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:52.440] Yeah. [01:16:52.440 --> 01:16:52.940] Okay. 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[01:19:45.740 --> 01:19:57.180] If I can't get everything I need, you'll get a range, yeah, hey. [01:19:57.180 --> 01:20:01.100] We are back. We're Andy Kelton and Deborah Stevens with Steve Skidmore [01:20:02.140 --> 01:20:09.260] and we're talking to Michael in Texas and you wanted to know where to find the law. [01:20:09.260 --> 01:20:20.060] The first place is look in the legislature. Texas legislature do a search for graves, grave sizes. [01:20:21.180 --> 01:20:26.140] Do you know when the law went into effect? No, wait, what's wrong with me? Brain dead, [01:20:26.140 --> 01:20:36.060] brain dead. City, do a request for the city for the requirement for the crypt. [01:20:36.060 --> 01:20:45.660] Notify the city that it appears as though their requirements breach your contract so you would [01:20:45.660 --> 01:20:52.300] like to see authority for their requirement for the concrete crypt. Okay, the reason this issue [01:20:52.300 --> 01:20:58.380] came up, Randy, and something I'll tell you, while we were discussing the other issue on [01:20:58.380 --> 01:21:09.260] Thursday and getting it resolved as far as the prepaid burial service agreement, the director [01:21:09.260 --> 01:21:16.140] of the funeral home that we were dealing with made a statement that state law requires [01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:24.940] it to be a concrete vault now, so I'm thinking that's kind of the assumption I'm going under, [01:21:24.940 --> 01:21:28.860] but then again I don't assume because you know what that does that of the first three letters [01:21:28.860 --> 01:21:40.300] to you and me. Okay, so since the city is the one that owns the facility, ask them for the [01:21:41.740 --> 01:21:50.940] specifics of the requirement, ask them for the statute. Okay. Then ask them to show authority [01:21:50.940 --> 01:21:56.460] and then see if it's a city rule. If it's a city rule, they can wipe their behind with the rule, [01:21:56.460 --> 01:22:08.540] you've got a contract. And the city's cemetery is separate from the city itself, [01:22:10.060 --> 01:22:14.060] so the city itself can't come back and interfere with your private contract [01:22:14.060 --> 01:22:20.860] just because they want to. They'd have to pass a statute. [01:22:20.860 --> 01:22:24.860] Okay, well I'm fairly certain there is a statute because like I said, when I contacted the [01:22:25.740 --> 01:22:33.020] funeral services commission, I found out since the cemetery is owned by the city of Wichita Falls, [01:22:33.020 --> 01:22:38.220] that we would have to go to the city attorney and stuff in order to... [01:22:38.220 --> 01:22:44.380] Wait a minute, hold on, hold on. That's what I was told by the funeral services commission. [01:22:44.380 --> 01:22:52.140] Okay, does this requirement only apply to government-owned facilities or does it [01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:58.940] apply to all funeral homes, all graveyards? I believe it might be applying to all of them. [01:22:58.940 --> 01:23:07.580] Well, check and see. If it only applies to city-owned, city's problem, then not your problem. [01:23:09.580 --> 01:23:13.980] You enter into a contract with a private-owned facility. If they want to sell it to the city [01:23:13.980 --> 01:23:17.580] that changes the requirements, they have to give you more space. [01:23:19.580 --> 01:23:23.820] Okay. That would interfere with the contract. Right. [01:23:23.820 --> 01:23:27.420] Then you'd have a claim. So you've got a little research to do. [01:23:27.420 --> 01:23:33.740] I'm certain I do, and you pointed me in the right direction. I'm pretty good at doing research. [01:23:35.420 --> 01:23:39.580] It's fun reading the codes because you find some really interesting stuff in there. You may find [01:23:39.580 --> 01:23:44.860] something to hammer them good with. Okay, so again, just to recap, I want to [01:23:45.900 --> 01:23:49.500] check with the city, write them a letter, I'm sure, [01:23:49.500 --> 01:23:57.740] certified mail, return receipt, and ask them for the complete requirements. [01:23:58.540 --> 01:24:05.660] Yeah, they ask for the city's authority to require a concrete crypt for burial. [01:24:08.300 --> 01:24:16.060] And you might send them a letter giving them notice that the city has buried some [01:24:16.060 --> 01:24:23.660] that the city has buried someone on your property. Okay. [01:24:26.860 --> 01:24:32.780] And ask them to make you hold or be sued. Tell them that you bought 10 plots, [01:24:34.220 --> 01:24:39.740] return your 10 plots to you, or be sued, and give them an opportunity to come back with a [01:24:39.740 --> 01:24:47.580] counter offer. Okay. Get that dead guy off my property. That won't make them happy. [01:24:47.580 --> 01:24:53.740] He ain't paying rent. It's actually a dead lady in this case, but [01:24:54.700 --> 01:25:00.940] I can deny their case. So like I said, that burial and stuff is interfering with, you know, [01:25:00.940 --> 01:25:08.540] part and parcel to the land we own. Exactly. Okay. Keep us posted. [01:25:08.540 --> 01:25:13.020] Appreciate the time. Thanks, Steve. Thanks, Randy. You're welcome. [01:25:13.020 --> 01:25:18.620] I do keep in touch. I emailed Randy and stuff and he hadn't returned my email, but I'm sure he did. [01:25:18.620 --> 01:25:23.020] That dude might not have seen it. I will look for it. What's your email address? [01:25:23.020 --> 01:25:30.220] Just the first part. Michael G. Moore. [01:25:32.060 --> 01:25:38.380] Michael Moore. Okay. I looked at that and I was thinking of the movie guy. [01:25:39.740 --> 01:25:43.980] Okay. I'll go back and look at it. Okay. I'm fixing to do something about that, [01:25:45.820 --> 01:25:50.380] but I appreciate it. Go on to your other callers and I'll keep listening. Thank you. [01:25:50.380 --> 01:26:00.220] Okay. Take care. Okay. Now we're going to Julius in Texas. Hello, Julius. What are you up to now? [01:26:01.980 --> 01:26:06.780] You know, Randy, I got a couple of items in the fire. One is I might be going for, [01:26:07.500 --> 01:26:13.260] uh, my real estate lawsuit pretty soon coming up here. And I got a question just to be on [01:26:13.260 --> 01:26:18.860] point on topic because you've been talking about real estate all this evening. So I wanted to start [01:26:18.860 --> 01:26:27.180] with, that's a quick question. Can you go for damages if let's say you have a $25,000 down [01:26:27.180 --> 01:26:33.820] payment on a house that was foreclosed illegally and forgetting the facts of how it was illegally [01:26:33.820 --> 01:26:40.300] foreclosed for a moment, but just looking at your damages, can you claim that as damages, [01:26:40.300 --> 01:26:44.380] even if theoretically there was no equity in the property? [01:26:44.380 --> 01:26:50.300] No, no, no. You, you claim the entire value of the property. [01:26:51.340 --> 01:26:57.100] I see. Yeah. Not just the amount you had in it. You owned the property at that point and [01:26:57.100 --> 01:27:03.660] they just had a claim against it. Right. And you're maintaining that they illegally [01:27:03.660 --> 01:27:10.140] exercise this claim. Right. You had a right to free and uninterrupted [01:27:10.140 --> 01:27:15.580] enjoyment and ownership of the property. And they denied you that. So you'd claim the full amount. [01:27:15.580 --> 01:27:22.860] And if you claim any kind of fraud or misdealing, then you claim three times the amount [01:27:24.860 --> 01:27:32.380] and then go back and look at your documentation. Well, let me, let me, let me point you in the [01:27:32.380 --> 01:27:36.700] right direction. This was the one of them refresh your memory, but where the lawyers from [01:27:36.700 --> 01:27:39.980] Ballard and Daffy Duck, those lawyers, you're familiar with them. [01:27:39.980 --> 01:27:46.380] Daffy and Frappin' and Kiss My Behind? Daffy and Frappin' and Kiss- yeah, you got [01:27:46.380 --> 01:27:51.820] Daffy Duck, Daffy Duck and Lawyers Incorporated, those guys. Anyway, one of the lawyers wrote me [01:27:51.820 --> 01:27:58.620] back because I said specifically, I wrote them notice that I'm not allowing you to foreclose [01:27:58.620 --> 01:28:05.740] on this property. I need to see the original loan documents, the original note, secure [01:28:05.740 --> 01:28:14.300] note security instrument in the original ink signatures in person. I will not accept photocopies. [01:28:14.300 --> 01:28:19.820] I am not allowing you to move forward with this foreclosure unless I am able to review these [01:28:19.820 --> 01:28:26.620] documents in person. And I got a letter back from the lawyer who stated, and I quote, [01:28:26.620 --> 01:28:33.740] you don't have the right to see these documents. And here's a photocopy and that's all you get. [01:28:33.740 --> 01:28:43.340] Okay. And that's basically what the lawyer wrote me. But now this foreclosure happened January [01:28:43.340 --> 01:28:51.420] the 5th, 2010. But it's only now that we're finding out that, well, we have the right [01:28:52.460 --> 01:29:00.780] to see these documents and that it's sought put upon by these lawyers to state that you have no [01:29:00.780 --> 01:29:08.300] right to see the original documents. Oh, I got a better idea. What's that? Sue the lawyer who [01:29:08.300 --> 01:29:15.420] wrote you the letter. That's what I was thinking about. Go after her. And also, can I file criminal [01:29:15.420 --> 01:29:21.980] charges? Now I know I'm pretty sure within the four year period of time, especially from the [01:29:21.980 --> 01:29:29.020] time of discovery of the fraud, which I just discovered this year, because they told me when [01:29:29.020 --> 01:29:36.460] they told me I was not allowed to inspect these documents and I had no right to, I took that [01:29:36.460 --> 01:29:42.540] face value. They were telling me the truth. So they, exactly. Okay. Hang on, hang on. [01:29:42.540 --> 01:29:49.020] We'll be right back on the other side. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens with Steve Skidmore [01:29:49.020 --> 01:30:02.060] Rule of Law Radio. Our call-in number 512-646-1984. We'll be right back. [01:30:02.060 --> 01:30:07.100] Be careful what you tweet. Just ask Jonathan Hoster. His complaint about a local grocery [01:30:07.100 --> 01:30:12.540] store sparked a national social media firestorm and nearly cost his job. I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. [01:30:12.540 --> 01:30:16.780] I'll be back in a moment with more on the cautionary tale of tweets gone wrong. [01:30:16.780 --> 01:30:22.460] Your search engine is watching you, recording all your searches and creating a massive database [01:30:22.460 --> 01:30:28.300] of your personal information. That's creepy, but it doesn't have to be that way. Startpage.com [01:30:28.300 --> 01:30:32.540] is the world's most private search engine. 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For those in the Austin area, there is a gentleman who has been [01:34:07.980 --> 01:34:15.900] fighting the system for a long time in the pro se litigant world who has passed from this world. [01:34:15.900 --> 01:34:22.780] His name is Rhett Pease. Some of you may know him. If this is news to you, I'm sorry for having [01:34:22.780 --> 01:34:29.500] to break the news, but there will be a celebration of Rhett's life tomorrow at the Gardens of the [01:34:29.500 --> 01:34:37.660] Ancients that is located at 4800 Yeager Lane. That's out east of Dessau. If you're headed [01:34:37.660 --> 01:34:45.100] in town, headed out east on Palmer, just go past Samsung. Take a right on Yeager Lane and it's a [01:34:45.100 --> 01:34:50.460] quarter mile down the road on the left. The celebration will start at two o'clock in the [01:34:50.460 --> 01:34:56.620] afternoon. Everybody's welcome to bring a covered dish or whatever offering you'd like to bring. [01:34:56.620 --> 01:35:03.100] Everybody's welcome. Again, for a memorial service or a celebration of the life of Rhett Pease, [01:35:03.740 --> 01:35:09.980] there will be a gathering at the Gardens of the Ancients at two o'clock, 4800 Yeager Lane. [01:35:11.420 --> 01:35:16.460] That's all I've got on that, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry to hear that because [01:35:17.100 --> 01:35:23.180] Rest Peace was a real go getter. He really stirred up a lot. He was. He was. [01:35:23.180 --> 01:35:26.700] And I hate to hear it. I always hate to hear people dying younger than me. [01:35:28.700 --> 01:35:31.740] Brings us a little closer to our own mortality, doesn't it, Randy? [01:35:31.740 --> 01:35:40.700] Yes, it does. Okay, we're going back to Julius in Texas. Okay, Julius, [01:35:43.340 --> 01:35:50.940] the lawyer who's, do you have, okay, you've got the name of the specific lawyer that sent [01:35:50.940 --> 01:35:55.420] of the specific lawyer that sent you that free advice? [01:35:56.540 --> 01:36:02.060] Yeah. Oh, and I got her ink signature on a letterhead from that law firm [01:36:02.860 --> 01:36:07.900] stating this bogus claim that I have no rights to the original documents. [01:36:08.780 --> 01:36:15.260] And this is what we've been doing. We've been trying to sue the lawyer, his or herself, [01:36:15.260 --> 01:36:23.820] rather than the law firm or the lender, because the only thing we really know [01:36:24.940 --> 01:36:29.820] is this particular human being sent us this document with their signature on it. [01:36:31.100 --> 01:36:33.740] Right. And they made all these claims. [01:36:35.020 --> 01:36:40.140] We don't know if those claims are true or not, and it would be inappropriate for us to hold [01:36:40.140 --> 01:36:43.900] someone else responsible for a claim this lawyer made. [01:36:44.940 --> 01:36:53.180] Right. And here you have clear indication that the lawyer comes with unclean hands [01:36:54.380 --> 01:37:01.100] because the lawyer lied to you. And the lie was in direct contradiction to 3-501 [01:37:02.620 --> 01:37:07.900] Texas Uniform Commercial Code. I think the Uniform Commercial Code is not a [01:37:07.900 --> 01:37:13.100] law firm. I think the Uniform Commercial Code in Texas is, I think it's business commerce code. [01:37:14.220 --> 01:37:17.980] Okay. So it's 3-501. It's very clear. They [01:37:17.980 --> 01:37:25.820] must produce the original note or you may cease all payments without dishonor. [01:37:27.420 --> 01:37:34.700] Right. So she lied directly about that. So now you have reason to believe she lied about [01:37:34.700 --> 01:37:38.220] everything else. You sue that lawyer personally? Yeah. [01:37:39.180 --> 01:37:45.340] That is going to get her attention. How about good old Deceptive Trade [01:37:45.340 --> 01:37:51.260] Practices Act with treble damages? That was my next thing. I was going to go to [01:37:52.300 --> 01:37:59.660] executing a document by deception, tampering with the government document, aggravated perjury. [01:37:59.660 --> 01:38:09.260] I just had someone go to court today and made those claims against the purchaser of the property [01:38:09.260 --> 01:38:18.620] who was an eviction hearing. We made those claims because they caused to be filed this petition for [01:38:18.620 --> 01:38:28.540] eviction. And we maintained that. They purchased this property at an illegal foreclosure. [01:38:28.540 --> 01:38:36.300] An illegal foreclosure sale. And the fact of the illegality of the foreclosure sale [01:38:36.860 --> 01:38:45.100] was evident by the public record. And therefore the purchaser of the property had full knowledge [01:38:45.980 --> 01:38:51.900] of the illegality of their actions. Whether they looked in the records or not, [01:38:51.900 --> 01:38:58.700] their problem, not our problem. They are imputed to have full knowledge of everything that's in [01:38:58.700 --> 01:39:04.780] the public record and they can't claim they didn't. So even here, this lawyer [01:39:06.620 --> 01:39:13.900] stated knowledge in this area. She can't come back later and say that she wasn't aware that [01:39:13.900 --> 01:39:21.340] somebody had goofed up, especially a lawyer. Because a lawyer in Texas may not accept the [01:39:21.340 --> 01:39:29.340] veracity of his client. Prior to making a claim for a client, the lawyer must test the [01:39:29.340 --> 01:39:36.940] truthfulness of the client's representations to the lawyer to ensure that they are valid before [01:39:36.940 --> 01:39:44.140] the lawyer makes the claim. It looks like you dropped off my board. [01:39:44.140 --> 01:39:53.420] No, I'm still there. And if there's an affirmative claim made by an attorney in court, [01:39:54.060 --> 01:40:01.900] that claim must be predicated upon his due diligence by a reasonable search. That means [01:40:01.900 --> 01:40:08.220] it had better not be just drawn out of thin air in hopes that that might win his case. [01:40:09.900 --> 01:40:13.340] That is the exact reason we've been going after the lawyers. [01:40:14.220 --> 01:40:20.700] The whole reason for this is so, and it's outlined in the code of ethics or in the canons of ethics, [01:40:20.700 --> 01:40:25.980] is to now get this, you might get a chuckle out of this, but seriously, it's to protect the [01:40:25.980 --> 01:40:35.020] integrity of the trade of the profession. Isn't that an oxymoron? [01:40:35.020 --> 01:40:40.380] Yes, I thought you might get a kick out of that. Hey, don't shoot the messenger, [01:40:40.380 --> 01:40:47.740] Randy. I'm just telling you what I read. More a contradiction of terms. Yeah, and [01:40:47.740 --> 01:40:54.460] we start taking on the lawyers. That this is where the problem really is. It's not the client. [01:40:55.900 --> 01:41:03.180] The client's just using whatever's out there. We start hammering the lawyers. The lawyers got [01:41:03.180 --> 01:41:08.140] malpractice insurance. If they don't, then they're self-insured. That's what it's for. [01:41:08.860 --> 01:41:14.220] And then we go after them. We collect from the malpractice insurance company, [01:41:14.220 --> 01:41:21.180] from their insurance company, and they get their insurance canceled. [01:41:23.500 --> 01:41:27.260] So this doesn't work. That or their premiums will double. [01:41:28.460 --> 01:41:33.020] Oh, well, their premiums are doubled when you file the bar grievance. [01:41:33.580 --> 01:41:39.660] Right. When you sue them, that's when it'll cancel. They'll have to cover the issue, [01:41:39.660 --> 01:41:45.100] but then they'll cancel for... Well, it's just like a new car. [01:41:47.100 --> 01:41:52.460] You buy a new car, you go down to Walmart, you go inside, come out, somebody has backed into a [01:41:52.460 --> 01:41:57.260] fender and bashed it in. You call the insurance company, they come out and fix it, they increase [01:41:57.260 --> 01:42:02.060] your premiums. You go out there next month, you come back, somebody's bashed in another fender. [01:42:02.060 --> 01:42:09.420] They come out, they fix it, they cancel. Your fault, their fault, nobody's fault. They do not [01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:15.660] care. Yeah, I know for a fact that insurance companies aren't in business to pay claims. [01:42:15.660 --> 01:42:20.860] They're in business to collect premiums and make investments. Exactly. You just become [01:42:20.860 --> 01:42:28.540] an unacceptable risk and they cancel. And I had a lawyer tell me this 10 years ago, [01:42:28.540 --> 01:42:35.020] and he saw my eyes light up. And when he said that, he shook his head, oh, I knew I shouldn't [01:42:35.020 --> 01:42:41.420] have told you that. And that was interesting because who this lawyer was. When I first met him, [01:42:41.420 --> 01:42:46.620] he was an assistant county attorney. And I was in the county I live in, I was down there working [01:42:46.620 --> 01:42:51.820] him over. And I was in Wendy's office one day and I was crawling down his throat about something. [01:42:51.820 --> 01:42:58.620] And he said, just a moment, Mr. Kelton, stay right there, don't say anything else. He got up, [01:42:58.620 --> 01:43:04.540] walked around, closed the door to his office, came back, sat down and said, Mr. Kelton, [01:43:05.420 --> 01:43:11.660] don't stop. He said he used to work for Tarrant County as a prosecutor for six years. [01:43:11.660 --> 01:43:19.180] And he said, he just couldn't do it anymore. He was just too corrupt. He said, I can't fix it. [01:43:19.180 --> 01:43:25.660] The police can't fix it. Only you can fix it, don't stop. But I didn't say this, if you say I [01:43:25.660 --> 01:43:31.660] did, I'll swear you're a liar. He got up, walked around, opened the door and started arguing with [01:43:31.660 --> 01:43:38.700] me, railing on me, threatening me, the same old stuff. It was absolutely cool. Okay, hang on. [01:43:39.820 --> 01:43:43.260] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, We Willed Our Radio, [01:43:43.260 --> 01:43:51.980] call in number 512-646-1984. Give us a call. We've got one more segment. We'll be right back. [01:44:13.260 --> 01:44:18.780] Then Brave New Books. Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by [01:44:18.780 --> 01:44:23.580] authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Angie Edward Griffin. They even stock inner food, [01:44:23.580 --> 01:44:29.340] Berkey products and Calvin soaps. There's no way a place like that exists. Go check it out for [01:44:29.340 --> 01:44:36.460] yourself. 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[01:46:23.500 --> 01:46:36.540] The [01:46:36.540 --> 01:46:53.420] people come down from the hills [01:46:53.420 --> 01:47:12.700] Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and it looks like our phones [01:47:12.700 --> 01:47:20.700] went down. I've been a big brainstorm in Austin, so we will finish out. We were talking about [01:47:20.700 --> 01:47:26.380] suing the lawyers and I'd like to talk about that a little more. It's always a good subject. [01:47:26.380 --> 01:47:35.580] Yeah, well, it's about the politics and I've been, over time, I've been making a change from, [01:47:36.460 --> 01:47:44.300] you know, my original research was law. You know, I'm an engineer and as an engineer, all we do is [01:47:44.300 --> 01:47:53.580] connect the dots. And when I started the study of law, I treated it like an engineering project. [01:47:54.780 --> 01:48:05.660] The statute says you must do this thing. So it's like gravity pulls in a certain place at a [01:48:05.660 --> 01:48:13.500] certain amount. It always does that. It's not arbitrary or capricious. So I read the law as if [01:48:13.500 --> 01:48:23.820] it was not arbitrary or capricious. I was naive. And it took a long time for me to make that [01:48:25.020 --> 01:48:30.860] shift and it shouldn't have. I'm kind of ashamed of being an engineer. Engineers, [01:48:31.740 --> 01:48:40.300] they don't tend to have opinions about how things should be. When I went to college for electrical [01:48:40.300 --> 01:48:50.460] for electrical engineering, the first day, electronic theory, first course, the professor [01:48:50.460 --> 01:48:57.500] walked into the room. They've got us all set down. They've got all their money paid, all of our [01:48:57.500 --> 01:49:02.460] tuition. They sit us down in the room and the professor walks in, he looks out over the class [01:49:02.460 --> 01:49:13.900] and he said, electricity, we don't know what it is. We're all looking at each other, wondering [01:49:13.900 --> 01:49:21.020] what we paid all this money for. And then he went on to say, but we do know some things that it does. [01:49:22.300 --> 01:49:27.740] And based on our experience, we have developed certain theorems, actions, and postulates [01:49:27.740 --> 01:49:34.060] to describe what it does. But all through your electronics career, never forget, [01:49:34.620 --> 01:49:41.820] we don't know what it is. Therefore, if you encounter a phenomenon that does not match one of [01:49:41.820 --> 01:49:50.700] your theorems, axioms, or postulates, quick like a bunny rabbit, throw out your theorems, axioms, [01:49:50.700 --> 01:50:01.420] or postulates, never throw out phenomena because mother nature has all of these laws. [01:50:02.940 --> 01:50:13.660] First law, mother nature enforces all of her laws, all of the time, and she does not care about your [01:50:13.660 --> 01:50:25.020] theorems, axioms, or postulates. Over time, that turned out to be probably the first best and most [01:50:25.020 --> 01:50:36.860] valuable five minutes of my electronics career. Find out how things work and do them that way. [01:50:36.860 --> 01:50:43.340] You can have all the opinions you want to, but first find out how things work. This [01:50:43.340 --> 01:50:50.940] big humongous thing, it rises up in the sky, hangs there for a while, boom, crashes to the ground, [01:50:50.940 --> 01:50:56.300] shakes the ground for miles around. Big humongous thing, rises back up in the sky, hangs there a [01:50:56.300 --> 01:51:03.100] while, boom, crashes to the ground. Now you might say that's a stupid idea, but first get out from [01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:13.100] under it, or you'll get smashed. This is becoming much more important, and I'm kind of ashamed [01:51:13.100 --> 01:51:24.700] because I've known that for 40 years, and it's taken me so long to accept and realize that you [01:51:24.700 --> 01:51:31.740] will not win your case because you have the law and the facts on your side. I was naive, [01:51:31.740 --> 01:51:38.300] I was naive. You will only win your case if you have the politics on your side. Okay, [01:51:39.500 --> 01:51:49.580] now where do we find and how do we manipulate the politics? And I know a lot of people will bristle [01:51:50.620 --> 01:51:58.540] at the thought of having to deal with the politics. Well, guys, sorry to tell you, [01:51:58.540 --> 01:52:10.460] but that's really all there is. It is that way now. It has always been that way since human [01:52:10.460 --> 01:52:17.900] beings grouped together in civilizations and developed the ability to write and record their [01:52:17.900 --> 01:52:27.980] history. I was reading a book about the ancient Sumerians, and in there, there was a platform [01:52:27.980 --> 01:52:37.340] placard petitioned by a king 5,500 years ago, where he proclaimed that he was reasserting the [01:52:37.340 --> 01:52:46.380] old law because those in positions of power and influence have so perverted the laws that the [01:52:46.380 --> 01:52:58.460] citizen can no longer achieve justice. If this has been going on for 5,500 years that we know of, [01:52:58.460 --> 01:53:08.380] don't expect it to change tomorrow. So with that said, how do we affect the politics? And clearly [01:53:08.380 --> 01:53:20.860] in going after these guys, we go to the maxim of never stipulate to anything. So we went back from [01:53:20.860 --> 01:53:31.340] the engineering perspective. What do we know as opposed to what do we think? We know that we got [01:53:31.340 --> 01:53:38.780] this communication, and we know that there was another person on the other side of this [01:53:38.780 --> 01:53:48.220] communication. And this person made statements, assertions, and allegations, and the person signed [01:53:48.220 --> 01:53:57.020] it. And we're sure that this is the person because there is a jurat here with a notary authentication [01:53:57.020 --> 01:54:06.380] that this is the person that made this statement or whatever. All we know is this person [01:54:06.380 --> 01:54:15.020] sent us this document and made this statement. And in law, whoever makes the proactive statement [01:54:15.020 --> 01:54:22.140] is the one that has to back it up. We talk about it in writing legal documents. [01:54:22.140 --> 01:54:27.100] Never make a proactive statement of law out of your own mouth. [01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:39.340] You can give the judge the most convincing arguments and the best reasons as to why he [01:54:39.340 --> 01:54:45.900] should rule in your favor. And he might agree with you. But if you have not given him law, [01:54:45.900 --> 01:54:51.180] then you've given him nothing to hang his hat on because he has a duty to determine the facts in [01:54:51.180 --> 01:54:55.820] accordance with the rules of evidence, and then apply the law to the facts in the case. [01:54:57.340 --> 01:55:01.660] So never make a proactive statement out of your own mouth. Make it out of the mouth of the courts. [01:55:02.700 --> 01:55:10.460] Never tell the court, you have to do this thing. Tell the court, this statute says you have to do [01:55:10.460 --> 01:55:17.980] this thing or this case law says you have to do this thing. But when you've done all of that, [01:55:17.980 --> 01:55:27.980] keep in mind, the judge is a human being. And he's going to have prejudices, whether he wants [01:55:27.980 --> 01:55:37.100] to or not. And he's also a lawyer. And you're dealing with other lawyers. So you have that [01:55:37.100 --> 01:55:44.940] bias. Even if the judge tries his best to be absolutely fair and even-handed, [01:55:46.380 --> 01:55:51.900] you just have that bias to deal with. And then the judge has political pressures on him. [01:55:53.580 --> 01:56:00.060] He's going to have to get reelected. He can't have the public upset at him. Remember the story [01:56:00.060 --> 01:56:08.700] of A Miracle on 54th Street? And why the judge ruled that the guy actually was Santa Claus [01:56:10.140 --> 01:56:18.140] is because his little advisor whispering in his ear told him that if you rule against Santa Claus, [01:56:18.140 --> 01:56:23.180] you'll never get elected again. That's all it took. Boom, he's Santa Claus. [01:56:23.180 --> 01:56:36.220] It's all politics. So by going after the lawyer, now we insert a level of politics that hasn't [01:56:36.220 --> 01:56:41.820] been there before. Prior to this, the lawyers felt pretty well immune from what was going on. [01:56:41.820 --> 01:56:47.900] They do pretty well what they wanted to for their clients. Now we put them in the crosshairs. [01:56:47.900 --> 01:56:57.820] We sue the lawyer. I just put together a suit for a guy in California where the judge dismissed his [01:56:57.820 --> 01:57:04.860] case with prejudice. It was an FDCPA suit asking the guy to approve his agency to represent a [01:57:04.860 --> 01:57:11.820] principal with standing and capacity. The judge dismissed it. So we said, okay, since you say [01:57:11.820 --> 01:57:19.660] this guy is the one with agency to represent a principal with standing capacity, then we maintain [01:57:19.660 --> 01:57:27.100] that he is vicariously liable for the crimes these other guys committed, and we're going to sue him. [01:57:28.300 --> 01:57:34.300] And if he feels like somebody else is partially liable, well, he can get their money from them. [01:57:34.300 --> 01:57:41.100] We'll get our money from this guy. And we'll get our money from this guy. We'll get our money from [01:57:41.100 --> 01:57:48.300] this guy. And if he wants to try to get money out of the banks to pay him back, well, see if he does [01:57:48.300 --> 01:57:56.540] better than we did. That was so much fun to write. And I think I've used up the whole segment. [01:57:56.540 --> 01:57:57.500] I'm sorry, Steve. [01:57:57.500 --> 01:58:03.900] That's fine. That's fine. That's good information. Yeah. It's not like he doesn't have recourse. [01:58:03.900 --> 01:58:05.980] He's always got a countersuit. [01:58:06.860 --> 01:58:08.620] Well, cross complaint. [01:58:08.620 --> 01:58:09.580] Or cross, yeah. [01:58:09.580 --> 01:58:14.220] Counter suit against us, but he don't have anything. And if he thinks these other guys [01:58:14.220 --> 01:58:17.500] are partially responsible, cross complaint against him. [01:58:17.500 --> 01:58:19.260] I misspoke. I meant cross complaint. [01:58:20.220 --> 01:58:22.060] Okay. Thank you, Steve, for being here. [01:58:22.620 --> 01:58:23.740] Thank you for the invitation. [01:58:24.300 --> 01:58:25.580] We didn't get to what we wanted to. [01:58:26.220 --> 01:58:26.860] No, we didn't. [01:58:27.660 --> 01:58:29.260] You want to try that next week? [01:58:29.260 --> 01:58:30.460] Sure. Why not? [01:58:30.460 --> 01:58:35.980] Okay. We will be back next week and we'll go over this list that we had on. [01:58:35.980 --> 01:58:38.540] It's what we said last week. Oh, well. [01:58:38.540 --> 01:58:43.020] Okay. Okay. Thank you all for listening. This is Randy, Cal, and David Stephen, [01:58:43.020 --> 01:59:09.580] Real Law Radio. We'll be back next week. And good night. [01:59:13.020 --> 01:59:37.580] Thank you. [01:59:43.020 --> 01:59:49.580] Bye-bye.