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[09:23.240 --> 09:30.240]  Well, and even on the frequently asked questions on their page,
[09:30.240 --> 09:38.240]  they say some very interesting things and he even defines what a grand jury is.
[09:38.240 --> 09:43.240]  The body of 12 citizens who consider whether indictments should be returned in felony cases,
[09:43.240 --> 09:46.240]  two grand juries meet weekly in Galveston County.
[09:46.240 --> 09:51.240]  Grand jurors are nominated by grand jury commissioners appointed by a district judge.
[09:51.240 --> 09:55.240]  The district attorney has no control over the selection process law.
[09:55.240 --> 10:00.240]  In addition, a grand jury can be selected randomly from the voter registration rolls of the county
[10:00.240 --> 10:03.240]  in the same manner that trial juries are selected.
[10:03.240 --> 10:10.240]  Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public and witnesses take an oath of secrecy before testifying.
[10:10.240 --> 10:14.240]  And then they go on to say what grand juries actually do.
[10:14.240 --> 10:21.240]  And basically, and this one of these things was kind of interesting, what does a grand jury do?
[10:21.240 --> 10:31.240]  Unless a defendant waves an indictment, Texas law requires action by the grand jury before a felony case can be filed in district court.
[10:31.240 --> 10:36.240]  If the grand jury believes that there is sufficient evidence to prove that a person has committed a felony,
[10:36.240 --> 10:40.240]  it votes to issue what is called a true bill or indictment.
[10:40.240 --> 10:47.240]  If nine grand jurors must vote in favor of the indictment or the case is no bill which terminates the case,
[10:47.240 --> 10:53.240]  the district attorney assists the grand jury in hearing evidence and preparing indictment.
[10:53.240 --> 11:00.240]  But the actual deliberations on cases are secret and only the grand jurors are present when voting is in progress.
[11:00.240 --> 11:04.240]  That covers a whole lot of...
[11:04.240 --> 11:07.240]  That is not exactly true.
[11:07.240 --> 11:12.240]  And so I'm wondering if we can call them on some of the wording on their questions and answers here.
[11:12.240 --> 11:18.240]  Yes, this oath of secrecy, never heard of such a thing.
[11:18.240 --> 11:29.240]  And if they called me before a grand jury and wanted me to swear to an oath of secrecy, not gonna happen.
[11:29.240 --> 11:33.240]  The only thing secret about a grand jury are their deliberations.
[11:33.240 --> 11:36.240]  That's right, and we don't need to hear that anyway.
[11:36.240 --> 11:43.240]  So the filing of criminal complaints is absolutely not secret.
[11:43.240 --> 11:48.240]  The accusations, the affidavits, they are not secret.
[11:48.240 --> 11:53.240]  Most of that is relatively accurate.
[11:53.240 --> 11:55.240]  Yeah, okay.
[11:55.240 --> 12:02.240]  But the other thing I found on the website is they have actually posted a list of indictment.
[12:02.240 --> 12:06.240]  But there's no sign anywhere of no bill.
[12:06.240 --> 12:15.240]  So there's no record that I can find that lets you know that they received something.
[12:15.240 --> 12:17.240]  Yeah, there is one.
[12:17.240 --> 12:21.240]  It's called the minutes of the court.
[12:21.240 --> 12:24.240]  Right. I remember you were asking for them.
[12:24.240 --> 12:37.240]  The 2022 Code of Criminal Procedure requires the clerk of the court to make a notation in the minutes of the court,
[12:37.240 --> 12:43.240]  whether a presentment is true billed or no billed.
[12:43.240 --> 12:45.240]  Okay.
[12:45.240 --> 12:52.240]  And if you go to Travis County and you go to the criminal district clerk's office,
[12:52.240 --> 12:55.240]  on the first floor, right where you come in, you walk straight in,
[12:55.240 --> 12:59.240]  go between the elevators, and you'll be looking right at their door.
[12:59.240 --> 13:05.240]  You go in the door and go to the first window to your left.
[13:05.240 --> 13:07.240]  It's right against the wall.
[13:07.240 --> 13:13.240]  And look behind the person standing there, and there's a counter in front of the person,
[13:13.240 --> 13:15.240]  and then it turns and goes along the wall.
[13:15.240 --> 13:21.240]  Right at the end of that counter, about four feet back, there's a book about six inches thick.
[13:21.240 --> 13:23.240]  That's it.
[13:23.240 --> 13:25.240]  And if you ask to see it, they will show it to you.
[13:25.240 --> 13:27.240]  The minutes.
[13:27.240 --> 13:29.240]  The minutes of the clerk.
[13:29.240 --> 13:34.240]  Minutes of the court is what they're referred to in the code.
[13:34.240 --> 13:45.240]  Now, I have asked others in Galveston County, they say that the prosecuting attorney keeps the minutes.
[13:45.240 --> 13:53.240]  And I told her the clerk that, you know, I will be back down here seeking those minutes officially.
[13:53.240 --> 14:05.240]  And if you tell me you don't have them and that someone else has them, I will call 911 and ask the police to go arrest whoever has them.
[14:05.240 --> 14:16.240]  You are required by law to keep the records of the clerk of the court and these are records of the clerk as stipulated by a 2022 code crime procedure.
[14:16.240 --> 14:19.240]  So I'm hoping she fixed that.
[14:19.240 --> 14:29.240]  Okay. And is that something that if it's not available in the book sitting there, is that something that you can request through the open record?
[14:29.240 --> 14:33.240]  Oh, this is this doesn't fall under open records.
[14:33.240 --> 14:35.240]  Right. That's in my thought. Okay.
[14:35.240 --> 14:38.240]  This falls under a public court.
[14:38.240 --> 14:40.240]  Okay.
[14:40.240 --> 14:48.240]  So there's no statute. You don't need a statute to if you ask for them under open records, they'll deny it.
[14:48.240 --> 14:59.240]  So I have rewritten my open records requests so that I make a request for records.
[14:59.240 --> 15:15.240]  I stipulate that the request is made under the open records act under the right to a public court or any other law rule, law statute or rule affecting the openness and public availability of records.
[15:15.240 --> 15:18.240]  So I don't get this crap old law.
[15:18.240 --> 15:19.240]  Yeah.
[15:19.240 --> 15:21.240]  That I have required.
[15:21.240 --> 15:23.240]  I've had them do that stuff to me.
[15:23.240 --> 15:24.240]  Okay.
[15:24.240 --> 15:31.240]  Because I'm just thinking, you know, we I have an advocate in the county who will remain nameless.
[15:31.240 --> 15:34.240]  But my mother is quite a bulldog.
[15:34.240 --> 15:39.240]  And she's offered to go down in our on our behalf and look for things.
[15:39.240 --> 15:45.240]  So I will send her in the minute.
[15:45.240 --> 15:51.240]  It's great to have someone who is a non interested third party.
[15:51.240 --> 15:54.240]  That was their problem with me when I was down there.
[15:54.240 --> 15:55.240]  Right.
[15:55.240 --> 15:57.240]  They had nothing.
[15:57.240 --> 15:58.240]  Yeah.
[15:58.240 --> 16:04.240]  So they're wondering, who is this guy? What is he trying to, you know, who is he after?
[16:04.240 --> 16:05.240]  They don't know what's going on.
[16:05.240 --> 16:07.240]  And that's the way we want to keep them.
[16:07.240 --> 16:08.240]  Right.
[16:08.240 --> 16:09.240]  And I'm in that camp as well.
[16:09.240 --> 16:10.240]  Yes.
[16:10.240 --> 16:11.240]  Good.
[16:11.240 --> 16:18.240]  So we're going to find I have several relatives in Galveston County and none of them have the same last name.
[16:18.240 --> 16:20.240]  So they should be a lot of fun.
[16:20.240 --> 16:21.240]  Oh, good.
[16:21.240 --> 16:26.240]  I'm going to call in some chips and send them around.
[16:26.240 --> 16:33.240]  But I did want to just touch base and make sure that I was on the right path and make sure that I wasn't repeating something you had already done.
[16:33.240 --> 16:35.240]  No, you're not.
[16:35.240 --> 16:36.240]  Okay.
[16:36.240 --> 16:38.240]  I will continue to try and find them.
[16:38.240 --> 16:41.240]  And that's what I need for the night.
[16:41.240 --> 16:42.240]  Okay.
[16:42.240 --> 16:43.240]  Thank you very much.
[16:43.240 --> 16:44.240]  This is Randy Kelton.
[16:44.240 --> 16:51.240]  Debbie Stephen, Betty Craig with La Radio, our call in numbers five on two, six, four, six, 1984.
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[20:06.240 --> 20:07.240]  We are back.
[20:07.240 --> 20:09.240]  Randy Kelton, Debbie Stephen, Betty Craig with La Radio.
[20:09.240 --> 20:16.240]  And that conversation about grand jury's got Eddie out of the bars.
[20:16.240 --> 20:19.240]  He called in and we're going to bring him up next.
[20:19.240 --> 20:22.240]  He had something to talk about on grand jury's.
[20:22.240 --> 20:23.240]  Eddie.
[20:23.240 --> 20:34.240]  Yeah, we went down today to the Travis County courthouse to take a look at the minutes of the grand jury in someone's case where they filed criminal complaints against several sheriff's deputies.
[20:34.240 --> 20:45.240]  Well, we found out from the clerk of the court down there that the grand jury actually functions on three possible options when something's presented to them.
[20:45.240 --> 20:55.240]  The first is, of course, to no bill the complaint that's before them. The second is to true bill the complaint if they find reasonable cause to do so.
[20:55.240 --> 21:03.240]  There's a third option that I can't find any reasonable basis for in statute and that is what they're calling a pass.
[21:03.240 --> 21:21.240]  Basically, what happens is if the prosecutor tells the grand jury to pass on a particular issue that's been presented to them, they will set that issue aside making no record of its presentation to the grand jury at all.
[21:21.240 --> 21:36.240]  That would make it remarkably easy for the prosecutor to tamper with the grand jury's finding by telling them to sideline an issue with that pass.
[21:36.240 --> 21:43.240]  Okay, that I find nothing in law to support that.
[21:43.240 --> 21:47.240]  That is correct. I do not either.
[21:47.240 --> 22:09.240]  Okay, we don't care for our part if we file a complaint against the public official and we wait a reasonable amount of time. We file it with a prosecutor attorney and then we go to the minutes of the grand jury and we don't find a true bill or no bill.
[22:09.240 --> 22:16.240]  Then we just filed against the district attorney criminally.
[22:16.240 --> 22:22.240]  Let him come to court and explain this pass stuff.
[22:22.240 --> 22:33.240]  Well, true enough, but the issue is that you will not find an entry in the grand jury minutes. There is no record keeping of anything that is set aside on a pass.
[22:33.240 --> 22:43.240]  That's the part I find reprehensible because, as we well know, the only thing secret in a grand jury is the deliberation that you stated earlier when you were talking with Kathy.
[22:43.240 --> 23:00.240]  But this means that there is a secondary secret process in the form of this pass that allows them to not review criminal complaints put for them and to make no record of that complaint ever having been presented to them at all.
[23:00.240 --> 23:17.240]  Well, as I read 20.09 code of criminal procedure, it says, the grand jury shall examine into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge.
[23:17.240 --> 23:22.240]  Nowhere in there does it say they can pass.
[23:22.240 --> 23:27.240]  Right. And that was exactly my problem with what I was told by this clerk.
[23:27.240 --> 23:35.240]  But we need to make sure that what the clerk told you is not a crock.
[23:35.240 --> 23:52.240]  I would want to talk to some some previous grand jurors and see if they corroborate that what the clerk may have been doing is a song and dance to explain why something's not showing up.
[23:52.240 --> 23:57.240]  That is entirely possible. I agree that that is possible.
[23:57.240 --> 24:10.240]  However, since the court brought it up, there has to be some seed of thought put into their head because normally they're not capable of thinking on their feet well enough to come up with a lie like that.
[24:10.240 --> 24:13.240]  Well, this is something we absolutely need to look at.
[24:13.240 --> 24:33.240]  If we can substantiate for certain that that is occurring, then we can name the foreman and the district attorney for conspiring to obstruct justice.
[24:33.240 --> 24:35.240]  Yeah, I would concur with that.
[24:35.240 --> 24:43.240]  Anyway, despite the fact that the bars are relatively empty because of first Thursday, I am out and about, but I'm just unavailable to the show.
[24:43.240 --> 24:47.240]  I don't bar hold folks, so I put me in that category already.
[24:47.240 --> 24:55.240]  But in any case, I thought I would bring that to your attention so that the folks out there could know about it.
[24:55.240 --> 25:01.240]  You guys really buy that. I still think he's out at the bars.
[25:01.240 --> 25:05.240]  I don't think with an attorney is what I'm doing. That's why I'm out.
[25:05.240 --> 25:11.240]  But in any case, good luck with the rest of the show and folks, thanks for listening in.
[25:11.240 --> 25:15.240]  Thank you, Eddie. It's only joking about the bar hopping.
[25:15.240 --> 25:17.240]  Oh, I know. I know.
[25:17.240 --> 25:21.240]  I think you were clogging in the bar, not hopping.
[25:21.240 --> 25:23.240]  Yeah, thanks again.
[25:23.240 --> 25:25.240]  You're welcome, everybody.
[25:25.240 --> 25:30.240]  Okay, good night. Now we're going to go to Jim in Washington.
[25:30.240 --> 25:34.240]  Hello, Jim. What do you have for us today?
[25:34.240 --> 25:36.240]  Hi, Randy. How are you?
[25:36.240 --> 25:44.240]  And you have an open mic and you can pick on Eddie all you want to because he's not here.
[25:44.240 --> 25:49.240]  I had a little situation on Saturday night, Sunday morning.
[25:49.240 --> 25:58.240]  I was at a charity function at a restaurant lounge and a commotion broke out outside of the facility.
[25:58.240 --> 26:05.240]  And I went over and took out my camera and started filming with the quick application that Pepper recommends.
[26:05.240 --> 26:12.240]  And I was standing about 22, 23 feet back from the officer.
[26:12.240 --> 26:20.240]  And the officer told me I needed to move back and I said, seriously, I'm over 20 feet away from you.
[26:20.240 --> 26:23.240]  And I was explaining to him that I had the right to stand there and film.
[26:23.240 --> 26:29.240]  The next thing I know, he gets on his radio and tells dispatch that he's surrounded by 40 people and needs to backup.
[26:29.240 --> 26:35.240]  And he jumps out of his car and runs out and he says, you're getting paced and paced me and then arrested me.
[26:35.240 --> 26:37.240]  Did you get that on camera?
[26:37.240 --> 26:43.240]  Unfortunately, the quick application does not work so well when you only have one bar of service.
[26:43.240 --> 26:46.240]  I was waiting for the boonies.
[26:46.240 --> 26:48.240]  And nothing came through at all.
[26:48.240 --> 26:56.240]  Okay, were there other witnesses, you said you were in a restaurant?
[26:56.240 --> 26:58.240]  No, I was outside of a restaurant.
[26:58.240 --> 27:01.240]  No, no, you were at a function at a restaurant?
[27:01.240 --> 27:02.240]  Yes.
[27:02.240 --> 27:05.240]  So you had a number of witnesses?
[27:05.240 --> 27:08.240]  Yes, there was about 15 or 20 people around.
[27:08.240 --> 27:11.240]  He was investigating an assault, I guess.
[27:11.240 --> 27:15.240]  And I was just documenting, you know, making sure.
[27:15.240 --> 27:17.240]  Do you have any witnesses?
[27:17.240 --> 27:19.240]  Yes, yes.
[27:19.240 --> 27:25.240]  Okay, charge the officer with aggravated assault.
[27:25.240 --> 27:27.240]  I planned on that.
[27:27.240 --> 27:31.240]  I actually sent you an email today.
[27:31.240 --> 27:35.240]  My apologies for being mute then.
[27:35.240 --> 27:42.240]  Okay, I sent you an email today about it and I haven't got a response back, but I didn't expect one yet.
[27:42.240 --> 27:47.240]  On the way to the jail, I told the officer that I would like to be taken to the nearest magistrate.
[27:47.240 --> 27:49.240]  He refused to do so.
[27:49.240 --> 27:54.240]  When I got to the jail, they did not allow me to make the phone call or see a magistrate.
[27:54.240 --> 28:01.240]  And then in the morning, they must have had an ex parte examining trial,
[28:01.240 --> 28:06.240]  because they let me out of jail on my personal reconnaissance, but I was not in the hearing.
[28:06.240 --> 28:13.240]  And then on Tuesday, I went to arraignment and they had three pieces of paper there.
[28:13.240 --> 28:16.240]  One was to sign for, you know, a court-appointed attorney.
[28:16.240 --> 28:19.240]  One was to sign a waiver of an attorney at that hearing.
[28:19.240 --> 28:22.240]  And I don't remember what the third one was.
[28:22.240 --> 28:27.240]  And the judge asked me for my papers and I told him I wasn't going to sign any papers,
[28:27.240 --> 28:33.240]  because I knew they didn't have subject matter jurisdiction and I wasn't going to sign anything that might possibly allow them to get it.
[28:33.240 --> 28:39.240]  I didn't tell him that part, but, you know, and so now he said this is not your arraignment,
[28:39.240 --> 28:44.240]  then you have to come back on the 13th for arraignment.
[28:44.240 --> 28:52.240]  Okay. What you want is first hearing examining trial.
[28:52.240 --> 28:53.240]  Okay.
[28:53.240 --> 28:57.240]  First thing you ask the judge, are you sitting as a judge or a magistrate?
[28:57.240 --> 28:58.240]  Okay.
[28:58.240 --> 29:04.240]  If he says judge, ask him to stand down from the bench, get me a magistrate.
[29:04.240 --> 29:09.240]  Is you don't have subject matter jurisdiction yet?
[29:09.240 --> 29:14.240]  Because there has been no determination of probable cause.
[29:14.240 --> 29:15.240]  Okay.
[29:15.240 --> 29:22.240]  Now, what, why would I want to do that if I, I wouldn't want to give them subject matter jurisdiction, would I?
[29:22.240 --> 29:25.240]  You don't have that option.
[29:25.240 --> 29:33.240]  If you follow statute, you cannot give a court subject matter jurisdiction.
[29:33.240 --> 29:37.240]  You can neither give them subject matter jurisdiction or take it away.
[29:37.240 --> 29:41.240]  The only thing you can do is deal with them personum jurisdiction.
[29:41.240 --> 29:42.240]  We're about to go to break.
[29:42.240 --> 29:44.240]  We'll talk about that on the other side.
[29:44.240 --> 29:48.240]  This is Randy Kelton, Denver Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rueva Radio.
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[32:36.240 --> 32:44.240]  Okay, Jim, we were talking about the subject matter jurisdiction.
[32:44.240 --> 32:49.240]  Subject matter jurisdiction, the court either has it or it doesn't.
[32:49.240 --> 32:58.240]  And so my question to you was what was your claim of lack of subject matter jurisdiction?
[32:58.240 --> 33:02.240]  Well, for one, he did not take me straight to a magistrate.
[33:02.240 --> 33:06.240]  They had an ex parte examining trial.
[33:06.240 --> 33:14.240]  And then when I went to the arraignment, the judge told the court clerk that the officer hadn't even turned in to complain yet.
[33:14.240 --> 33:16.240]  There was nothing in the file.
[33:16.240 --> 33:21.240]  That's good for no subject matter jurisdiction.
[33:21.240 --> 33:24.240]  You need to get a set of motions before the court.
[33:24.240 --> 33:28.240]  One is a demand for an examining trial.
[33:28.240 --> 33:33.240]  Another is a demand to be faced by your accuser.
[33:33.240 --> 33:39.240]  And that means see a copy of the complaint.
[33:39.240 --> 33:52.240]  You probably should go down to this court, whoever this judge was, and ask to see the warrant.
[33:52.240 --> 33:58.240]  Okay, because a warrant would have to be produced after an examining trial.
[33:58.240 --> 34:03.240]  That's the only way they could still have subject matter jurisdiction over you.
[34:03.240 --> 34:10.240]  And the warrant would have to then be forwarded to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[34:10.240 --> 34:13.240]  It's the examining trial.
[34:13.240 --> 34:21.240]  The complaint gives the magistrate jurisdiction to hold an examining trial.
[34:21.240 --> 34:30.240]  If the magistrate finds probable cause, then he will prepare an order and a warrant.
[34:30.240 --> 34:34.240]  If you've already been arrested, then he prepares a warrant anyway.
[34:34.240 --> 34:36.240]  It just comes up executed.
[34:36.240 --> 34:41.240]  If you haven't been arrested, then you're arrested and brought back before the magistrate.
[34:41.240 --> 34:48.240]  And it is the warrant that gives the court jurisdiction.
[34:48.240 --> 34:51.240]  So that's forwarded to the clerk at court of jurisdiction.
[34:51.240 --> 34:59.240]  And now the court of jurisdiction has subject matter jurisdiction based on a finding of probable cause.
[34:59.240 --> 35:02.240]  The trial court does not make a finding of probable cause.
[35:02.240 --> 35:04.240]  The magistrate does that.
[35:04.240 --> 35:05.240]  Okay.
[35:05.240 --> 35:08.240]  And apparently that hasn't been done in your case.
[35:08.240 --> 35:13.240]  It was not done in a lot of the cases that I heard of six or seven times.
[35:13.240 --> 35:18.240]  We're saying that the complaints have not been turned in by the officers, so evidently it's a routine thing.
[35:18.240 --> 35:19.240]  Good.
[35:19.240 --> 35:20.240]  Good.
[35:20.240 --> 35:23.240]  So look at Washington law.
[35:23.240 --> 35:31.240]  Look at the Washington Code of Criminal Procedure, Criminal Procedure Code, whatever they call it there.
[35:31.240 --> 35:37.240]  I think in Washington it'll be in the revised, I think, general statutes.
[35:37.240 --> 35:40.240]  The RCW is revised code of Washington?
[35:40.240 --> 35:42.240]  Yes.
[35:42.240 --> 35:49.240]  And look in there, and I don't remember what number it is, but look at the procedure code.
[35:49.240 --> 35:51.240]  Read the procedure real careful.
[35:51.240 --> 35:54.240]  They never, ever follow it.
[35:54.240 --> 35:55.240]  Right.
[35:55.240 --> 35:58.240]  And every state has been very similar.
[35:58.240 --> 36:03.240]  The one that was the most different was Pennsylvania.
[36:03.240 --> 36:07.240]  And that was a true common law state.
[36:07.240 --> 36:12.240]  So they didn't require being brought before magistrate.
[36:12.240 --> 36:15.240]  They allowed a prosecutor to do that.
[36:15.240 --> 36:19.240]  But there were other remedies because they did that.
[36:19.240 --> 36:23.240]  In Pennsylvania, the prosecutor has first blush.
[36:23.240 --> 36:28.240]  He can determine whether or not he believes there's sufficient evidence to believe crimes have been committed.
[36:28.240 --> 36:37.240]  But if he decides not to prosecute whoever filed the complaint has standing and can appeal that all the way to the Supreme,
[36:37.240 --> 36:39.240]  here we file a complaint.
[36:39.240 --> 36:41.240]  We have no standing.
[36:41.240 --> 36:46.240]  But anyway, there should have been absolutely a examining trial.
[36:46.240 --> 36:52.240]  And that's in the federal law and it's in the model standards.
[36:52.240 --> 36:56.240]  And all of the states have pretty well adopted the model standards.
[36:56.240 --> 37:06.240]  So if you look on jurismprudence.com, you will find a Riv-Habes corpus top frog on the left.
[37:06.240 --> 37:10.240]  That walks down due process.
[37:10.240 --> 37:17.240]  It pretty well follows Texas law, but do a Texas law and federal law.
[37:17.240 --> 37:22.240]  I quote federal cases from all over the country.
[37:22.240 --> 37:27.240]  And so it pretty well follows a standard law. Everywhere I've been, it's been essentially the same.
[37:27.240 --> 37:30.240]  So it'll give you a good idea of how the process should work.
[37:30.240 --> 37:39.240]  Then all you have to do is look at the Texas statute and then look up the comparable Washington statute.
[37:39.240 --> 37:41.240]  And we start filing criminal charges on it.
[37:41.240 --> 37:45.240]  Oh, I plan on it. I'm going down fighting.
[37:45.240 --> 37:52.240]  The other interesting thing was before court, I went in and asked to get copies of what was in the file.
[37:52.240 --> 37:56.240]  And she told me I had to file an open records request to get it.
[37:56.240 --> 38:00.240]  She would not let me have copies.
[38:00.240 --> 38:10.240]  Did you call? Okay, I'm not sure what the specific requirements are in Washington state.
[38:10.240 --> 38:14.240]  But you should have written a request right then.
[38:14.240 --> 38:19.240]  She gave me a form. I told it out and I wrote the request out and she said it would take a little while.
[38:19.240 --> 38:24.240]  And then I've been waiting since, you know, Tuesday and I haven't heard a thing.
[38:24.240 --> 38:29.240]  She said they would call me with the charges and mailing fees and all that when they had it.
[38:29.240 --> 38:40.240]  Okay, look at the code. In Texas, if you've been arrested, the magistrate who finds a problem or cause or who issues the warrant
[38:40.240 --> 38:46.240]  must make the warrant available for inspection immediately.
[38:46.240 --> 38:51.240]  Okay. It's going to be essentially the same in Washington state.
[38:51.240 --> 39:00.240]  They can't arrest you and make the charges available a couple months down the road whenever they get around to it.
[39:00.240 --> 39:11.240]  The whole purpose of taking before a magistrate is so that the officer doesn't have time to go back and make up a bunch of trash.
[39:11.240 --> 39:19.240]  That he has to go before the magistrate right now and explain himself.
[39:19.240 --> 39:27.240]  So if you have a bunch of witnesses, don't file any affidavits from the witnesses yet.
[39:27.240 --> 39:31.240]  Don't even mention them. But do you have affidavits from the witnesses?
[39:31.240 --> 39:38.240]  No, I do not yet. I did not know any of these people there. I found out the name of one witness.
[39:38.240 --> 39:47.240]  I talked to him. I don't know if you remembered what he remembered and he completely remembered it the way I did.
[39:47.240 --> 39:52.240]  And he knew three or four names and I'm hoping the rest of them will know one or two names and I'll find out.
[39:52.240 --> 40:00.240]  Get hold of them quickly and ask them to do this. First, write just an outline.
[40:00.240 --> 40:03.240]  This happened, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened.
[40:03.240 --> 40:08.240]  Then go back and fill in as much of the details as they can.
[40:08.240 --> 40:13.240]  If they just tell the story, each one will tell a different story.
[40:13.240 --> 40:20.240]  But if they do an outline first, it will make all of the stories far more consistent.
[40:20.240 --> 40:23.240]  Okay. Alright.
[40:23.240 --> 40:35.240]  Once you get the outline and then get them to fill in the outline, ask them to write you an affidavit and get it notarized.
[40:35.240 --> 40:45.240]  But hold those back. You want to give the officers opportunity to lie like dogs because that's exactly what they will do.
[40:45.240 --> 40:51.240]  I know. They're highly trained in testifying.
[40:51.240 --> 40:55.240]  I hate it. I would like to be able to trust my police officers.
[40:55.240 --> 41:00.240]  But at this point, I believe they would lie when the truth would do better.
[41:00.240 --> 41:03.240]  Yes. Because they're so used to lying.
[41:03.240 --> 41:14.240]  And if this officer was brazen enough to taze you because you were videotaping him.
[41:14.240 --> 41:15.240]  Yes, sir.
[41:15.240 --> 41:21.240]  We just had a couple of court cases come down on that issue saying you could absolutely do that.
[41:21.240 --> 41:28.240]  So you have a really good case. Tazing is a near-death experience.
[41:28.240 --> 41:30.240]  Yes, sir.
[41:30.240 --> 41:36.240]  So it didn't kill you, but it could well have.
[41:36.240 --> 41:40.240]  At this point, tazing may be the most dangerous thing police are doing.
[41:40.240 --> 41:42.240]  And they just do it out of hand.
[41:42.240 --> 41:48.240]  So this guy needs aggravated assault charges, assault with a deadly weapon.
[41:48.240 --> 41:56.240]  And the assault created a civil tort, which was a violation of due process.
[41:56.240 --> 42:03.240]  You can take him to the Fed. He's a state officer, so you want to take the state to the Fed.
[42:03.240 --> 42:06.240]  And you'll be surprised when you file in the Fed.
[42:06.240 --> 42:09.240]  You deal with these low-level judges here.
[42:09.240 --> 42:15.240]  And they get pretty burnt out and pretty coarse and difficult.
[42:15.240 --> 42:19.240]  Federal judges are a whole lot different.
[42:19.240 --> 42:22.240]  Right, and the federal courts are a lot more professional.
[42:22.240 --> 42:24.240]  You don't get any of the crap all up.
[42:24.240 --> 42:27.240]  And when you file a federal lawsuit against this guy,
[42:27.240 --> 42:34.240]  especially if you file criminal charges in the federal court against him,
[42:34.240 --> 42:37.240]  you're going to get his attention.
[42:37.240 --> 42:40.240]  And you can run the routine on the U.S. attorney.
[42:40.240 --> 42:44.240]  You really don't care if the U.S. attorney indicts him or not.
[42:44.240 --> 42:46.240]  That ain't the purpose.
[42:46.240 --> 42:49.240]  It's all politics.
[42:49.240 --> 42:53.240]  You create yourself a lot of good politics.
[42:53.240 --> 42:58.240]  And we have a really contentious election coming up.
[42:58.240 --> 43:04.240]  All U.S. attorneys right now are looking at this election.
[43:04.240 --> 43:10.240]  They watch the elections real close because if a new president is elected,
[43:10.240 --> 43:17.240]  every U.S. attorney in the country must turn in his resignation.
[43:17.240 --> 43:23.240]  And it's up to the president whether or not he accepts those resignations or not.
[43:23.240 --> 43:26.240]  So you see the position the U.S. attorney's in.
[43:26.240 --> 43:33.240]  The last thing he wants right now is some citizen jumping up and down,
[43:33.240 --> 43:41.240]  waving his arms, filing criminal charges against him, accusing him of misbeisance in office,
[43:41.240 --> 43:46.240]  and just making a lot of noise.
[43:46.240 --> 43:47.240]  You don't want the noise.
[43:47.240 --> 43:53.240]  You don't care if he complains about it or not because perception is everything.
[43:53.240 --> 43:55.240]  This is Randy Keltner and David Stevenson.
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[46:37.240 --> 46:44.240]  Randy Keltner, David Stevenson, David Craig from RuleofLaw Radio, and we're talking to Jim in Washington.
[46:44.240 --> 46:53.240]  Jim, we've got a lot of callers tonight, so I do want to move along, but do some research on the law.
[46:53.240 --> 46:57.240]  The biggest thing is knowing the statutes.
[46:57.240 --> 47:05.240]  If you really want to get these guys, you don't want to get too many people involved.
[47:05.240 --> 47:11.240]  If you're in a department where they're doing everything wrong, if you go in there and know the law,
[47:11.240 --> 47:19.240]  you'll get a lot more people being more careful so that your complaints against the officer doesn't get so diluted.
[47:19.240 --> 47:25.240]  You can wind up with more issues than you can get to.
[47:25.240 --> 47:33.240]  When I go down and ask for something, I want to see the criminal complaint or I want to see the warrant.
[47:33.240 --> 47:46.240]  What I tell them is I want to see the warrant as contemplated by Article 15.16 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[47:46.240 --> 47:55.240]  They say, huh, and I say, if you don't know what I'm talking about, read it.
[47:55.240 --> 48:04.240]  I'm sending them to read the code and figure out from what the code says what I'm asking them for.
[48:04.240 --> 48:07.240]  We were talking about grand juries earlier.
[48:07.240 --> 48:16.240]  When I go in to find the minutes of the grand jury, I tell them I want to see the minutes of the court.
[48:16.240 --> 48:20.240]  Most of the time they tell me, well, I don't know what you're talking about.
[48:20.240 --> 48:29.240]  I want to see the minutes of the court as contemplated by Article 20.22 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[48:29.240 --> 48:34.240]  I had one clerk tell me, well, I don't know what that is.
[48:34.240 --> 48:38.240]  Well, go look it up.
[48:38.240 --> 48:43.240]  She went and looked it up and I didn't get any more crapola from her.
[48:43.240 --> 48:51.240]  Then she explained exactly what all her procedures were, and this was Galveston County.
[48:51.240 --> 48:58.240]  And to the clerk's credit, she really didn't know what I was talking about because she had just gotten in
[48:58.240 --> 49:08.240]  and she was doing things the way they'd always been done and she explained that the district attorney keeps those records.
[49:08.240 --> 49:25.240]  But when you ask for things, if you ask for them in the verbiage of the statute, it gets less unnecessary resistance and it frightens everybody.
[49:25.240 --> 49:34.240]  Okay. I sent you an email, I titled it Help With Case, if you could maybe try to find that after the show or something.
[49:34.240 --> 49:35.240]  Yes.
[49:35.240 --> 49:42.240]  Deborah, what's the recent case on filming officers?
[49:42.240 --> 49:44.240]  That's the Glick.
[49:44.240 --> 49:45.240]  Glick.
[49:45.240 --> 49:47.240]  Yeah.
[49:47.240 --> 49:51.240]  There's a Glick and one more. I'll try to find those and get those to you.
[49:51.240 --> 49:55.240]  I'll be using those shortly.
[49:55.240 --> 50:04.240]  Galveston County, we had someone go in there to, they're in a divorce issue and they were trying to get a continuance.
[50:04.240 --> 50:14.240]  So they wanted to go up to the court coordinator to find out what days he could choose to set a hearing for this motion for a continuance.
[50:14.240 --> 50:28.240]  And he went up to the second floor where the court coordinator was and etched in the glass on the door was no proceeds beyond this point.
[50:28.240 --> 50:33.240]  How are they supposed to, how are they supposed to litigate their case?
[50:33.240 --> 50:47.240]  This court coordinator has herself a problem because the judge that's in place was just appointed because the prior judge stepped down for some reason, retired something, I don't know.
[50:47.240 --> 50:54.240]  But he was appointed, he's running for election on a post so he'll wind up back in there.
[50:54.240 --> 51:04.240]  He adopted this or inherited this court coordinator and court coordinator's been doing what the other corrupt judge is telling her to do.
[51:04.240 --> 51:10.240]  And it's got a new judge in and she's doing the same thing and she got the wrong one.
[51:10.240 --> 51:24.240]  She got one that was being directed by Ken Magnuson and he filed a complaint, he had the guy file a complaint against her in affidavit form.
[51:24.240 --> 51:33.240]  And when she saw the complaint in affidavit form because he went down there to set the motion and she wouldn't see him and he couldn't go there to see her.
[51:33.240 --> 51:44.240]  So he said, I've waited for her until five in the evening and never did get his motion sent. So he's really working her over with the code.
[51:44.240 --> 51:50.240]  So if you know the code, it changes everything.
[51:50.240 --> 51:54.240]  So first thing you need to do is read the code.
[51:54.240 --> 52:08.240]  I suggest read that bit of habeas corpus because I went through all of the codes and pulled out those codes that apply to this particular issue.
[52:08.240 --> 52:16.240]  And that will tell you exactly what to look for in Washington law and it'll take you a whole lot less time.
[52:16.240 --> 52:20.240]  Okay. Thank you very much for your time and just another friend.
[52:20.240 --> 52:36.240]  Do one more thing for me. Keep copious notes and we'll make up a set of codes that we'll redo that habeas corpus in Washington law and post it on the Curious Improvise.
[52:36.240 --> 52:44.240]  Okay. And just a kind of a warning to everybody who are using the click application, make sure you have plenty of bars or it does not work.
[52:44.240 --> 52:52.240]  Does it also save it in your phone anyway?
[52:52.240 --> 52:57.240]  No, it didn't. To my knowledge, it does not. It just sends it up to the web.
[52:57.240 --> 53:02.240]  And if you have a weak service, it does not go to the web and then you have nothing.
[53:02.240 --> 53:05.240]  And I'm sure they would have erased it anyway.
[53:05.240 --> 53:08.240]  Okay. The cop doesn't know that, does he?
[53:08.240 --> 53:10.240]  No.
[53:10.240 --> 53:18.240]  Okay. You can testify that you were using an application that streams to the internet.
[53:18.240 --> 53:23.240]  It would have been great if you had had that on video and it had already been on YouTube.
[53:23.240 --> 53:25.240]  Yes, sir. I sure would.
[53:25.240 --> 53:30.240]  But if you can't use Quick, then get a regular video next time.
[53:30.240 --> 53:34.240]  But per chance, did anyone else have a camera?
[53:34.240 --> 53:38.240]  I do not know that yet. I'm still working on that.
[53:38.240 --> 53:42.240]  I just kind of wanted to warn people if you're in an area with weak service, don't count on it.
[53:42.240 --> 53:45.240]  Go to the regular camera on your phone.
[53:45.240 --> 53:50.240]  Okay. Whatever you do, don't let them know that you don't have that video.
[53:50.240 --> 53:52.240]  Okay.
[53:52.240 --> 53:55.240]  Don't ever mention it.
[53:55.240 --> 53:58.240]  But don't ever actually mention it.
[53:58.240 --> 54:03.240]  Don't say anything about it other than that you were videoing the police officer.
[54:03.240 --> 54:08.240]  And if they ask for the video, absolutely not.
[54:08.240 --> 54:12.240]  If I give you that video, you guys will send it to your experts and you'll alter it.
[54:12.240 --> 54:14.240]  You ain't getting that video.
[54:14.240 --> 54:18.240]  I don't have to give you my evidence. You have to give me yours.
[54:18.240 --> 54:20.240]  Okay.
[54:20.240 --> 54:22.240]  Okay.
[54:22.240 --> 54:26.240]  In the end, it's not about the law.
[54:26.240 --> 54:31.240]  It's about who can apply the most political pressure.
[54:31.240 --> 54:36.240]  And if you consider it from that perspective, you will get a lot better outcomes.
[54:36.240 --> 54:37.240]  Okay.
[54:37.240 --> 54:39.240]  Thank you very much.
[54:39.240 --> 54:44.240]  Do some research and if you make a lot of headway, call in tomorrow.
[54:44.240 --> 54:46.240]  Okay. Thank you very much.
[54:46.240 --> 54:48.240]  Okay. Thank you, Jim.
[54:48.240 --> 54:53.240]  Now we're going to go to Mary in Texas.
[54:53.240 --> 54:56.240]  Hello, Miss Mary.
[54:56.240 --> 55:04.240]  Hi, Randy. This is Trinity and Kung Fu Panda calling for John Wayne Rambo and Gypsy Queen.
[55:04.240 --> 55:09.240]  You have a Will Thready connection.
[55:09.240 --> 55:11.240]  Is this any better?
[55:11.240 --> 55:13.240]  Oh, that is much better.
[55:13.240 --> 55:21.240]  Okay. So this is Trinity and Kung Fu Panda calling for John Wayne Rambo and the Gypsy Queen.
[55:21.240 --> 55:26.240]  Oh, I guess you just had to be there to know what that refers to.
[55:26.240 --> 55:29.240]  Your new nickname is John Wayne.
[55:29.240 --> 55:33.240]  Oh.
[55:33.240 --> 55:35.240]  Okay. What do you have for us today?
[55:35.240 --> 55:41.240]  Well, I just briefly want to say that court watching never ceases to astonish and shock me.
[55:41.240 --> 55:53.240]  Today, we court watched as a friend of ours went to the grand jury clerk and asked to search the minutes, which she basically can only charge us for a dollar a page,
[55:53.240 --> 55:57.240]  so we really weren't able to review the records publicly and free.
[55:57.240 --> 56:00.240]  Hold on. Hold on. What county were you in?
[56:00.240 --> 56:04.240]  We're in Travis County today. Eddie had called earlier and discussed that.
[56:04.240 --> 56:14.240]  By the way, we have video and audio on her talking about the other option of pass where nothing goes on the books when somebody writes a criminal complaint.
[56:14.240 --> 56:18.240]  Did she show you the book of the minutes?
[56:18.240 --> 56:19.240]  She wouldn't.
[56:19.240 --> 56:26.240]  She only offered to make copies that we would have to pay for.
[56:26.240 --> 56:29.240]  That is interesting. I'll have to go down there and ask for it.
[56:29.240 --> 56:36.240]  I offered to pay for all of them, which probably would have stacked up to 60 or 100 bucks since the date.
[56:36.240 --> 56:42.240]  You have a right to examine records. I'll handle that. That'll get a 911 call.
[56:42.240 --> 56:51.240]  So for all the listeners and all our friends, especially folks, I'm begging you to go court watch at any court once a month for one trial.
[56:51.240 --> 56:57.240]  These trials often last only for 15 minutes, maybe only up to one hour, and take notes and dress up.
[56:57.240 --> 57:09.240]  Please, this is a way that we can watch our elected and otherwise, administrative judges deal with law and legal issues.
[57:09.240 --> 57:15.240]  It's very important that we have court watchers, even if you just do it for a little bit of entertainment once a month.
[57:15.240 --> 57:18.240]  That's all I'm doing, and I'm begging y'all to do that.
[57:18.240 --> 57:24.240]  Yes, and you need to know that judges really hate that.
[57:24.240 --> 57:26.240]  So it really drives them nuts.
[57:26.240 --> 57:33.240]  I'll think it confused them as a reporter, even if I'm just at Campo or any public meeting, taking down notes.
[57:33.240 --> 57:42.240]  When I go into a court, if I don't have an issue, like the last one I went to, they told me I needed to go sign the report with Claire.
[57:42.240 --> 57:44.240]  I said, oh, no, I don't need to do that.
[57:44.240 --> 57:46.240]  Yeah, you need to go sign it. No, I don't need to do that.
[57:46.240 --> 57:51.240]  Any guys at Baylor said, you need to go back there and sign it. No, I don't need to.
[57:51.240 --> 57:57.240]  He asked me to step out and ask me if I had an issue there, and I said, well, no, I don't.
[57:57.240 --> 57:59.240]  I'm just here for entertainment.
[57:59.240 --> 58:00.240]  Exactly.
[58:00.240 --> 58:04.240]  He said, oh, okay, then go ahead and have a seat.
[58:04.240 --> 58:10.240]  We just had to be sure that you needed to be signed up or not, and that was really a good bail.
[58:10.240 --> 58:16.240]  But the point is, you don't have to have a reason to be there, and they don't have any power to ask.
[58:16.240 --> 58:21.240]  They don't have to compel an answer. Hang on, Mary. We'll be right back. We're going to break.
[58:21.240 --> 58:24.240]  This is the top of the hour break, or are you done, Mary?
[58:24.240 --> 58:29.240]  Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about judicial conduct complaint with the county.
[58:29.240 --> 58:33.240]  Okay, wonderful, wonderful. Hang on. We're going to the top of the hour break.
[58:33.240 --> 58:37.240]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig. We'll blow radio.
[58:37.240 --> 58:49.240]  Call in number 512-646-1984. John, Jason, I see you there. We'll pick you up on the other side. We'll be right back.
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[01:03:24.240 --> 01:03:54.200]  We are back and we are talking to Mary in Texas, and you wanted to talk about complaints
[01:03:54.200 --> 01:03:58.200]  Williamson County, now you're getting close to my heart.
[01:03:58.200 --> 01:04:02.200]  Good. I think I'll be getting close to a lot of people's hearts.
[01:04:02.200 --> 01:04:06.200]  John Bradley, the DA, just really was ashamed recently
[01:04:06.200 --> 01:04:10.200]  with the Morton case that the Innocence Project from New York City busted
[01:04:10.200 --> 01:04:14.200]  with having imprisoned a fellow who was
[01:04:14.200 --> 01:04:18.200]  wrongly convicted for up to 20 years. So we're glad
[01:04:18.200 --> 01:04:22.200]  that they have kind of been weakened by this. We're really concerned
[01:04:22.200 --> 01:04:26.200]  for this attorney in Williamson County, Carolyn Barnes.
[01:04:26.200 --> 01:04:30.200]  She was arrested the day after she set one of her cases for
[01:04:30.200 --> 01:04:34.200]  appeal about a year ago in which she had defeated
[01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:38.200]  eight of the local cops for lack of evidence.
[01:04:38.200 --> 01:04:42.200]  Last week and a half ago, we court watched on August 28th
[01:04:42.200 --> 01:04:46.200]  basically her third in competency trial by
[01:04:46.200 --> 01:04:50.200]  misfortune and criminality. They ended up
[01:04:50.200 --> 01:04:54.200]  unfortunately putting her in a forensic hospital in Vernon, Texas near
[01:04:54.200 --> 01:04:58.200]  Wichita where she was forcibly drugged
[01:04:58.200 --> 01:05:04.200]  without court order and had been beaten up by another
[01:05:04.200 --> 01:05:08.200]  inmate, I believe several times and one of the times she had
[01:05:08.200 --> 01:05:12.200]  suffered a laceration to the head that they had to take her to
[01:05:12.200 --> 01:05:16.200]  an outside hospital. So in that time we've gotten the CCHR
[01:05:16.200 --> 01:05:20.200]  involved and they, because they pulled her medical records up.
[01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:24.200]  Wait, CCHR? CCHR, Citizens
[01:05:24.200 --> 01:05:28.200]  Commission on Human Rights. It's actually a Scientology group
[01:05:28.200 --> 01:05:32.200]  that doesn't believe in psychiatry or this type of drugs
[01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:36.200]  and they went ahead and pulled the medical records with her request
[01:05:36.200 --> 01:05:40.200]  and that hospital quickly relocated her to a
[01:05:40.200 --> 01:05:44.200]  better place closer to us in Corville where she's been treated much
[01:05:44.200 --> 01:05:48.200]  better and she's in the highest functioning unit. So on Tuesday a week and a half
[01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:52.200]  ago we watched a trial where the judge
[01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:56.200]  who's a retired judge and one of my friends said
[01:05:56.200 --> 01:06:00.200]  had sentenced more people to death in Texas than anyone else
[01:06:00.200 --> 01:06:04.200]  basically acted unethically several times
[01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:08.200]  and I need to produce a judicial
[01:06:08.200 --> 01:06:12.200]  conduct complaint or help with doing that even though I'm very scared that
[01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:16.200]  you may retaliate against me. Okay, you can,
[01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:20.200]  we'll put together the information. We will present
[01:06:20.200 --> 01:06:24.200]  the information on the air and I will hear all that
[01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:28.200]  information on the air and I'll do that myself.
[01:06:28.200 --> 01:06:32.200]  I appreciate that very much. I know that one of
[01:06:32.200 --> 01:06:36.200]  my friends had gone to the Sunset Commission on that judicial
[01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:40.200]  monitor's office and he said several people were complaining
[01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:44.200]  about retaliation from older judges including
[01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:48.200]  these false warrant documents and even taking the people's
[01:06:48.200 --> 01:06:52.200]  kids into that. We need to look at what
[01:06:52.200 --> 01:06:56.200]  the judge did that was unethical. If what
[01:06:56.200 --> 01:07:00.200]  the judge did had the effect of
[01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:04.200]  denying a citizen in full and free access to her enjoyment of right
[01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:08.200]  while the judge was acting under the color, meaning pretense
[01:07:08.200 --> 01:07:12.200]  of an authority he did not expressly have, we need to take
[01:07:12.200 --> 01:07:16.200]  that to the grand jury.
[01:07:16.200 --> 01:07:20.200]  Good. That sounds good. One of the things that he did
[01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:24.200]  do was he waived a jury trial in which the prosecutor
[01:07:24.200 --> 01:07:28.200]  and her own criminally appointed attorney which she doesn't
[01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:32.200]  want and she made clear very many times in the courtroom
[01:07:32.200 --> 01:07:36.200]  both proceeded to a motion that she have
[01:07:36.200 --> 01:07:38.200]  no jury trial and the judge
[01:07:38.200 --> 01:07:42.200]  then filed criminal charges against both of them.
[01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:46.200]  Okay. This should go to the Fed.
[01:07:46.200 --> 01:07:50.200]  Get out of Whibson County. This should go to the Fed.
[01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:54.200]  Nice. And we have a procedure of
[01:07:54.200 --> 01:07:58.200]  really annoying the feds.
[01:07:58.200 --> 01:08:01.200]  Okay. And that's really how it's
[01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:04.200]  sad. It's not about law, it's about politics.
[01:08:04.200 --> 01:08:08.200]  And right now the feds, especially the U.S.
[01:08:08.200 --> 01:08:12.200]  attorneys, the last thing they want is
[01:08:12.200 --> 01:08:16.200]  somebody coming after them and making bad mojo
[01:08:16.200 --> 01:08:20.200]  politics for them at this particular time
[01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:24.200]  because they tried to protect a local chump.
[01:08:24.200 --> 01:08:28.200]  Right. So if it's between
[01:08:28.200 --> 01:08:32.200]  this U.S. attorney having to
[01:08:32.200 --> 01:08:36.200]  prevent bad politics
[01:08:36.200 --> 01:08:40.200]  and dumping on a local
[01:08:40.200 --> 01:08:44.200]  which you think they'll do.
[01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:48.200]  We have a whole procedure for going after the U.S. attorneys.
[01:08:48.200 --> 01:08:52.200]  Oh, great. U.S. attorneys routinely
[01:08:52.200 --> 01:08:56.200]  try to shield the public from
[01:08:56.200 --> 01:09:00.200]  federal grand jurors. And
[01:09:00.200 --> 01:09:04.200]  if you send evidence to the grand jury,
[01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:08.200]  the U.S. attorney is going to intercept it.
[01:09:08.200 --> 01:09:12.200]  And then if you object, he's going to threaten you
[01:09:12.200 --> 01:09:16.200]  with charging you with tampering with the grand jury.
[01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:20.200]  So what we'll do is just charge him with tampering with grand jury.
[01:09:20.200 --> 01:09:24.200]  Right. And file that with the U.S. attorney in D.C.
[01:09:24.200 --> 01:09:28.200]  Wow. Now there's no way
[01:09:28.200 --> 01:09:32.200]  the U.S. attorney in D.C. is going to charge one of his U.S. attorneys
[01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:36.200]  with tampering with the grand jury because he wouldn't let a citizen
[01:09:36.200 --> 01:09:40.200]  send accusations
[01:09:40.200 --> 01:09:44.200]  against public officials to that grand jury.
[01:09:44.200 --> 01:09:48.200]  That's not how it works.
[01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:52.200]  We just had someone on earlier and we suggested to him
[01:09:52.200 --> 01:09:56.200]  this song about politics. Right.
[01:09:56.200 --> 01:10:00.200]  I talked to someone earlier in the day. It wasn't on the radio.
[01:10:00.200 --> 01:10:04.200]  And he was going to call the chief of police and complain about this officer. I said,
[01:10:04.200 --> 01:10:08.200]  don't call the chief. The chief has to be politically correct.
[01:10:08.200 --> 01:10:12.200]  Call the guy's captain. And just chew him out
[01:10:12.200 --> 01:10:16.200]  like he was a little kid. Just crawl right down his
[01:10:16.200 --> 01:10:20.200]  throat. What is the matter with you people? Are you training
[01:10:20.200 --> 01:10:24.200]  these officers to be stupid and just run blah, blah, blah?
[01:10:24.200 --> 01:10:28.200]  It don't matter what you say to him. He is not going to
[01:10:28.200 --> 01:10:32.200]  like being chewed out. And that's all he's going to
[01:10:32.200 --> 01:10:36.200]  care about. He's going to call it the lieutenant
[01:10:36.200 --> 01:10:40.200]  and he's going to chew out the lieutenant because he got chewed out.
[01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:44.200]  Can't you control your people? He don't
[01:10:44.200 --> 01:10:48.200]  care what the guy did. He only cares if he got chewed out.
[01:10:48.200 --> 01:10:52.200]  The lieutenant is going to call this guy a sergeant
[01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:56.200]  and he got chewed out by his boss because
[01:10:56.200 --> 01:11:00.200]  you didn't control one of your people.
[01:11:00.200 --> 01:11:04.200]  This is how it really works. This is the
[01:11:04.200 --> 01:11:08.200]  politics it goes on. And when the lieutenant gets
[01:11:08.200 --> 01:11:12.200]  through chewing on the sergeant, the sergeant is not going to
[01:11:12.200 --> 01:11:16.200]  care in the least what this guy at the bottom did.
[01:11:16.200 --> 01:11:20.200]  He's going to say
[01:11:20.200 --> 01:11:24.200]  can't you control your people?
[01:11:24.200 --> 01:11:28.200]  Yeah. Don't let this happen. When you go to the
[01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:32.200]  US attorney, he's going to call, I forget what they call
[01:11:32.200 --> 01:11:36.200]  the agent in charge, wherever this
[01:11:36.200 --> 01:11:40.200]  US attorney is and ask him, can't you
[01:11:40.200 --> 01:11:44.200]  manage your people? Why am I getting
[01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:48.200]  criminal complaints against your US attorneys right
[01:11:48.200 --> 01:11:52.200]  here before an election where we could all get thrown out of office?
[01:11:52.200 --> 01:11:56.200]  This is a political time bomb, make it go away.
[01:11:56.200 --> 01:12:00.200]  Right. So the US
[01:12:00.200 --> 01:12:04.200]  attorneys are especially vulnerable right now where they're especially
[01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:08.200]  politically sensitive. Okay. If you were listening
[01:12:08.200 --> 01:12:12.200]  earlier, if a new president gets selected
[01:12:12.200 --> 01:12:16.200]  every US attorney in the country
[01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:20.200]  has to turn in his resignation.
[01:12:20.200 --> 01:12:24.200]  Wow. And the new president gets
[01:12:24.200 --> 01:12:28.200]  to decide who he wants to keep and who he does not.
[01:12:28.200 --> 01:12:32.200]  So he accepts the resignations of the ones he wants
[01:12:32.200 --> 01:12:36.200]  to get rid of. And they've always got political debts
[01:12:36.200 --> 01:12:40.200]  to pay. Okay. So for lawyers who help
[01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:44.200]  them, that's a good way to pay their debts. Right.
[01:12:44.200 --> 01:12:48.200]  All these US attorneys know that, but they don't want
[01:12:48.200 --> 01:12:52.200]  us to know that. So we're looking at an election coming
[01:12:52.200 --> 01:12:56.200]  up soon. And for our part, it's great because
[01:12:56.200 --> 01:13:00.200]  if we get a new president, these US
[01:13:00.200 --> 01:13:04.200]  attorneys are going to be terrified of losing their cushy jobs.
[01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:08.200]  Oh, God. So it's a real good time to hammer
[01:13:08.200 --> 01:13:12.200]  them. Nice. We just run the routine
[01:13:12.200 --> 01:13:16.200]  on them just like here in the local courts.
[01:13:16.200 --> 01:13:20.200]  We file with the US with the grand jury, the US attorney
[01:13:20.200 --> 01:13:24.200]  intercepts it. We file with the US Postal
[01:13:24.200 --> 01:13:28.200]  Service charging the US attorney with tampering with
[01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:32.200]  the mail. We charge the US attorney directly
[01:13:32.200 --> 01:13:36.200]  with the tampering with the government
[01:13:36.200 --> 01:13:40.200]  document with anything we can think of. And just kind of
[01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:44.200]  walk up that we will file with a district judge and the district judge
[01:13:44.200 --> 01:13:48.200]  fails to act as a magistrate and we file against the district judge
[01:13:48.200 --> 01:13:52.200]  and get the district judge mad at the US attorney and just walk our way up.
[01:13:52.200 --> 01:13:56.200]  We are sovereigns.
[01:13:56.200 --> 01:14:00.200]  That's the power we have. We don't
[01:14:00.200 --> 01:14:04.200]  have any really real power to directly change things.
[01:14:04.200 --> 01:14:08.200]  But we can go in like a bull in a
[01:14:08.200 --> 01:14:12.200]  shop and just create
[01:14:12.200 --> 01:14:16.200]  political havoc.
[01:14:16.200 --> 01:14:20.200]  And besides, it's great entertainment.
[01:14:20.200 --> 01:14:24.200]  We can educate our friends, involve the media, and by
[01:14:24.200 --> 01:14:28.200]  showing up at commissioners' courts, at normal court watching
[01:14:28.200 --> 01:14:32.200]  at our city councils, by ourselves
[01:14:32.200 --> 01:14:36.200]  and with our groups, can affect public policy.
[01:14:36.200 --> 01:14:40.200]  Absolutely. Guys, you have no idea. I go to a court
[01:14:40.200 --> 01:14:44.200]  and I especially like to go to a court
[01:14:44.200 --> 01:14:48.200]  and just go in and sit down
[01:14:48.200 --> 01:14:52.200]  and say nothing to anybody.
[01:14:52.200 --> 01:14:56.200]  I did this in Williamson County and these guys were going wacko.
[01:14:56.200 --> 01:15:00.200]  I went down and sat down and started taking notes
[01:15:00.200 --> 01:15:04.200]  and everybody's looking at each other. Who is this guy?
[01:15:04.200 --> 01:15:08.200]  And someone came over and asked me questions. The third question you asked me, I said no more
[01:15:08.200 --> 01:15:12.200]  questions. They had
[01:15:12.200 --> 01:15:16.200]  no idea what was wrong. They were absolutely terrified.
[01:15:16.200 --> 01:15:20.200]  And the more corrupt a jurisdiction is, the more frightened
[01:15:20.200 --> 01:15:24.200]  they are. Because you go in there as a ringer
[01:15:24.200 --> 01:15:28.200]  especially if you wear a suit, tie, don't
[01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:32.200]  talk to anybody. If somebody asks you questions,
[01:15:32.200 --> 01:15:36.200]  go away. I don't want to talk to you. I'm busy. And they wonder
[01:15:36.200 --> 01:15:40.200]  who is this that would dismiss me
[01:15:40.200 --> 01:15:44.200]  like I was an Air and Child? You know, they just hate that. When I bushwhack
[01:15:44.200 --> 01:15:48.200]  a judge in court, I'll go up to the bar and point it to them. If you, come here.
[01:15:48.200 --> 01:15:52.200]  They hate that. Lawyers never do that.
[01:15:52.200 --> 01:15:56.200]  My name is Randall Keltman. I instruct the judge that I have business with the court.
[01:15:56.200 --> 01:16:00.200]  Man, tell the judge that you're in the business. No, you may not have business with the court
[01:16:00.200 --> 01:16:04.200]  and it's none of yours. You're dismissed. And I turn around and walk away.
[01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:08.200]  They're thinking who on earth
[01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:12.200]  would have the gall to do that? This cannot be
[01:16:12.200 --> 01:16:16.200]  a lawyer. Who is this guy?
[01:16:16.200 --> 01:16:20.200]  They all get terrified.
[01:16:20.200 --> 01:16:24.200]  You have not lived until you've done that. It's absolutely a boot.
[01:16:24.200 --> 01:16:28.200]  Well, Carolyn was fine enough to bring her own
[01:16:28.200 --> 01:16:32.200]  psychologist in who she had
[01:16:32.200 --> 01:16:36.200]  looked at her. And he actually got to take the witness stand and put a lot of her information
[01:16:36.200 --> 01:16:40.200]  into the document. Wonderful.
[01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:43.200]  Okay, hang on Mary. We'll be right back. This is
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[01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:27.200]  Now is a good time to go to the feds and give them an opportunity to show that they're doing their job and protecting the people against these corrupt local Yoko officials.
[01:23:27.200 --> 01:23:39.200]  So this should be a really good time. We are getting one decision after another in our favor. This worm is turning big time.
[01:23:39.200 --> 01:23:57.200]  I feel like my whole life has led me to this place, this time, this election. If we get another large turnover, we'll have half of the House of Representatives as new congressmen.
[01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:09.200]  Great. Who haven't been bought out by the special interests. This is our opportunity to change everything.
[01:24:09.200 --> 01:24:21.200]  So now is no time to be tenet. Now is the time to go for the throat because your enemy is at his most vulnerable.
[01:24:21.200 --> 01:24:33.200]  Right. Okay. Talk to me offline, Mary. We will, if you want, if you're concerned about filing these, I'm not concerned about them.
[01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:46.200]  Thank you. Two more things briefly. Her criminally appointed attorney, Alice Schreibner, was trying to make her look bad by calling her conspiracy theorist several times.
[01:24:46.200 --> 01:25:00.200]  And I actually talked with him in the hallway about that. But he used that about three times. He tried to tell, try and convince the court that she was a conspiracy theorist and that was some grounds for her incompetency.
[01:25:00.200 --> 01:25:04.200]  And just wanted to add that. And one more thing is...
[01:25:04.200 --> 01:25:19.200]  Wait a minute. You're saying her attorney... Oh, please. He was against her in court and trying to continue. He is the one who said she wasn't confident in the beginning.
[01:25:19.200 --> 01:25:31.200]  And his main reason is that she was unreasonable. She chose to not plead. She said she wasn't at the House when they made the accusation about some hostility between her and a census worker.
[01:25:31.200 --> 01:25:38.200]  And she said she wouldn't plead it out. And he's been arguing that she's just basically been unreasonable.
[01:25:38.200 --> 01:25:50.200]  You can have two legal defense on legal incompetency, apparently. And one is simply not understanding what's against you, and she understands very well the legal terms that are going against her, the legal issues and motions.
[01:25:50.200 --> 01:26:03.200]  But he also used the word many times, her reasonability. She chose to not plead, and he was acting hostile and supposedly hadn't even contacted her for this trial.
[01:26:03.200 --> 01:26:09.200]  So that was one issue about her that I wanted to let everybody know that this attorney was trying to use in court.
[01:26:09.200 --> 01:26:22.200]  And I basically laughed at him very nicely in the hall and said that was, you know, not an appropriate legal argument because of several reasons, but I wished him well.
[01:26:22.200 --> 01:26:31.200]  And I walked off. He actually approached me. And the other thing I wanted to ask people is just to consider running for the justice of the peace.
[01:26:31.200 --> 01:26:42.200]  These are small physicians in their local communities and just encourage people to run for justice of the peace. And I just wanted to thank everybody who's helped me with Carolyn Barnes' issues.
[01:26:42.200 --> 01:26:50.200]  There's many people, and I really shouldn't name them all, and you all know who you are, including some of the first people who asked me to go court watch for it.
[01:26:50.200 --> 01:27:03.200]  I just wanted to thank everybody who's helped with Carolyn Barnes. She's the hero. She's subpoenaed, aided the local cops in Williamson County for lack of evidence, and the next day they arrested her and almost murdered her.
[01:27:03.200 --> 01:27:11.200]  They had a sniper who said she didn't have a gun or the other police that she did. I believe that was an attempt on her life when all this began about a year ago.
[01:27:11.200 --> 01:27:17.200]  So again, I just want to thank all the people that have helped with the Carolyn Barnes issue.
[01:27:17.200 --> 01:27:29.200]  Thank you, Mary. And we really need to do everything we can to help this attorney. This was one lawyer that was actually on our side, and this is what happens to him.
[01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:34.200]  Yes. We, yes. The bigger system going on then. One attorney.
[01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:43.200]  So we need to give all of these people who are trying to railroad her. We need to tie them to the tracks.
[01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:45.200]  Yes, we do.
[01:27:45.200 --> 01:27:49.200]  And the political climate is ready for that.
[01:27:49.200 --> 01:27:50.200]  Good.
[01:27:50.200 --> 01:28:02.200]  This is the time and they've gotten so outrageous that they're so used to doing things the same way. They're not looking at the changing times.
[01:28:02.200 --> 01:28:06.200]  If you look back through history, this happens every 50 years.
[01:28:06.200 --> 01:28:13.200]  A lot of people get clobbered. A lot of corrupt people get thrown in jail. Things get straightened out.
[01:28:13.200 --> 01:28:19.200]  Our grandchildren have to do it again, but it's our time to fix it.
[01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:21.200]  Yes, it is.
[01:28:21.200 --> 01:28:23.200]  Okay. Thank you, Mary.
[01:28:23.200 --> 01:28:24.200]  Have a great evening.
[01:28:24.200 --> 01:28:31.200]  You too. Okay. Now we're going to go to John in Texas.
[01:28:31.200 --> 01:28:41.200]  John, I'm sorry to make you wait so long, but the truth is Mary's really a hot babe.
[01:28:41.200 --> 01:28:48.200]  So I had to consider, do I take John from Texas or do I take the hot babe?
[01:28:48.200 --> 01:28:50.200]  That was a no-brainer.
[01:28:50.200 --> 01:28:53.200]  The hot babe is the way to go.
[01:28:53.200 --> 01:29:06.200]  Actually, Mary's a real sweetheart. She's a major activist in the Austin scene. She is really dedicated.
[01:29:06.200 --> 01:29:19.200]  That sounds like a really important case, and I've heard about her, but I didn't realize how desperate her situation has become.
[01:29:19.200 --> 01:29:35.200]  The courts have been using this issue. We're hoping that we can use the Carol Barnes issue because it's so egregious to get this kind of behavior stopped.
[01:29:35.200 --> 01:29:41.200]  Okay, I'm sorry, John. Your time is up.
[01:29:41.200 --> 01:29:43.200]  Descading.
[01:29:43.200 --> 01:29:50.200]  Okay, we'll pick you up on the other side, John. This is Randy Kelk, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:29:50.200 --> 01:29:59.200]  We have our radio. We'll be right back on the other side.
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[01:32:54.200 --> 01:33:04.200]  Okay, we are back.
[01:33:04.200 --> 01:33:10.200]  And we're talking to John in Texas.
[01:33:10.200 --> 01:33:15.200]  Okay, John, let's move along. We're down to the last half hour.
[01:33:15.200 --> 01:33:21.200]  And I was instructed that I can't run on so long.
[01:33:21.200 --> 01:33:24.200]  Okay, go ahead, John.
[01:33:24.200 --> 01:33:29.200]  Oh, boy. Well, I sent you an email kind of summarizing what was going on.
[01:33:29.200 --> 01:33:34.200]  The owner of the house, I'm renting a room in a house, sort of an informal co-op.
[01:33:34.200 --> 01:33:38.200]  The owner keeps bringing in these really inappropriate people.
[01:33:38.200 --> 01:33:44.200]  And he doesn't do background checks. He doesn't do reference checks.
[01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:46.200]  Okay, hold on. Hold on.
[01:33:46.200 --> 01:33:51.200]  Again, okay, I wasn't exactly sure.
[01:33:51.200 --> 01:33:55.200]  I understand that you're renting a room in a house.
[01:33:55.200 --> 01:33:56.200]  Yes.
[01:33:56.200 --> 01:34:01.200]  Where the owner is renting rooms to other people.
[01:34:01.200 --> 01:34:02.200]  Yes.
[01:34:02.200 --> 01:34:09.200]  So you're winding up being forced to live with people that you have no say over.
[01:34:09.200 --> 01:34:12.200]  Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much.
[01:34:12.200 --> 01:34:19.200]  And one of these people happened to be a guy who, of course,
[01:34:19.200 --> 01:34:23.200]  he didn't do background check. He didn't know he had a history of assault,
[01:34:23.200 --> 01:34:28.200]  one conviction for assault, multiple charges for assault,
[01:34:28.200 --> 01:34:32.200]  a couple of trials apparently that are coming up for assault.
[01:34:32.200 --> 01:34:39.200]  And also, in my opinion, the gentleman has a serious psychiatric issue
[01:34:39.200 --> 01:34:43.200]  based on the amount of meds that he was getting from a pharmacy in Waco.
[01:34:43.200 --> 01:34:45.200]  There was an ex-bed, et cetera.
[01:34:45.200 --> 01:34:49.200]  So he has a lot of issues and all of us to tell right away,
[01:34:49.200 --> 01:34:52.200]  the guy had serious issues coming in.
[01:34:52.200 --> 01:34:56.200]  And, you know, I actually managed the house for a year.
[01:34:56.200 --> 01:34:59.200]  I never would have let this guy in.
[01:34:59.200 --> 01:35:01.200]  But it turned, you know...
[01:35:01.200 --> 01:35:02.200]  Okay, hold on.
[01:35:02.200 --> 01:35:05.200]  Go quickly. We're going to run out of time.
[01:35:05.200 --> 01:35:07.200]  Right. Okay.
[01:35:07.200 --> 01:35:14.200]  He ended up making contact with me once late one night,
[01:35:14.200 --> 01:35:18.200]  was kind of blocking me from, you know, going up the stairs to my room.
[01:35:18.200 --> 01:35:24.200]  You know, he was asked to leave and eviction process was started.
[01:35:24.200 --> 01:35:28.200]  And, you know, he ended up assaulting me again kind of at the top of the stairs
[01:35:28.200 --> 01:35:31.200]  and gave me a really hard shove.
[01:35:31.200 --> 01:35:36.200]  I was lucky enough to catch myself and so I didn't go down the stairs anyway.
[01:35:36.200 --> 01:35:39.200]  He was taken away.
[01:35:39.200 --> 01:35:40.200]  He was arrested.
[01:35:40.200 --> 01:35:41.200]  The police believe me.
[01:35:41.200 --> 01:35:44.200]  I'm guessing they saw his arrest record.
[01:35:44.200 --> 01:35:50.200]  And it turns out that somehow, I mean, he's gotten, you know,
[01:35:50.200 --> 01:35:56.200]  he's gotten a court appointed attorney who's delayed trial multiple times.
[01:35:56.200 --> 01:36:02.200]  And I've had interactions with the witness coordinator in Travis County.
[01:36:02.200 --> 01:36:10.200]  And she has kind of implied that this other gentleman who assaulted me
[01:36:10.200 --> 01:36:13.200]  is claiming that somehow I had assaulted him even though the police took him away
[01:36:13.200 --> 01:36:16.200]  and he didn't have a scratch on him.
[01:36:16.200 --> 01:36:20.200]  And it also sounds like this witness coordinator is, I mean,
[01:36:20.200 --> 01:36:24.200]  she was giving me leading questions, spinning the questions.
[01:36:24.200 --> 01:36:31.200]  It seemed like she was really trying to trick me into admitting things that weren't true.
[01:36:31.200 --> 01:36:34.200]  I mean, because I never touched the guy, even though he was...
[01:36:34.200 --> 01:36:36.200]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:36:36.200 --> 01:36:37.200]  Sure.
[01:36:37.200 --> 01:36:40.200]  Okay.
[01:36:40.200 --> 01:36:47.200]  Sometimes this is difficult because you're deeply engaged in the circumstance.
[01:36:47.200 --> 01:36:48.200]  Right.
[01:36:48.200 --> 01:36:49.200]  Okay.
[01:36:49.200 --> 01:36:54.200]  What I would ask is try to step outside the circumstance
[01:36:54.200 --> 01:37:01.200]  and put yourself in the shoes of this witness coordinator.
[01:37:01.200 --> 01:37:02.200]  Okay.
[01:37:02.200 --> 01:37:07.200]  She has this guy who files this complaint and gets this guy arrested.
[01:37:07.200 --> 01:37:09.200]  And she talks to the guy and the guy says,
[01:37:09.200 --> 01:37:11.200]  I don't know what he's talking about.
[01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:13.200]  He's made all this stuff up, I didn't do anything.
[01:37:13.200 --> 01:37:16.200]  He just did this because he knew I had a record
[01:37:16.200 --> 01:37:20.200]  and he's using that against me to try to get me thrown back in jail.
[01:37:20.200 --> 01:37:25.200]  And she says, oh gee, she don't know either one of you.
[01:37:25.200 --> 01:37:26.200]  Right.
[01:37:26.200 --> 01:37:32.200]  So the best way for her to determine that you're telling the truth
[01:37:32.200 --> 01:37:37.200]  is to blind on you a little bit.
[01:37:37.200 --> 01:37:46.200]  And if your story stays the same and if she can't get you to lose your cool,
[01:37:46.200 --> 01:37:50.200]  she's going to say, you know, I'm pretty good at this.
[01:37:50.200 --> 01:37:57.200]  If this guy was volatile, I would have got him to lose his cool with me and I couldn't.
[01:37:57.200 --> 01:38:03.200]  So you have to consider, you know, she, whoever this witness coordinator is,
[01:38:03.200 --> 01:38:05.200]  doesn't know either one of you.
[01:38:05.200 --> 01:38:06.200]  Right.
[01:38:06.200 --> 01:38:08.200]  And she's only hearing what she's hearing.
[01:38:08.200 --> 01:38:15.200]  But if she's been around a while, she knows that both sides only tell her the part
[01:38:15.200 --> 01:38:18.200]  they want her to hear.
[01:38:18.200 --> 01:38:23.200]  But she has to find those pieces in the middle.
[01:38:23.200 --> 01:38:34.200]  So it may well be that she was simply trying to see if you would erupt on her
[01:38:34.200 --> 01:38:37.200]  or give her inconsistent answers.
[01:38:37.200 --> 01:38:44.200]  And the best way to tell if somebody's not telling you the truth is to put the pressure on them.
[01:38:44.200 --> 01:38:52.200]  If somebody's lying under pressure that starts screwing up all the details.
[01:38:52.200 --> 01:38:59.200]  If they're not lying, they'll get angry, they'll get frustrated, but the details will stay the same.
[01:38:59.200 --> 01:39:08.200]  There is a very good chance that what was making you angry was exactly what she intended
[01:39:08.200 --> 01:39:15.200]  so that she could gauge your level of self-control.
[01:39:15.200 --> 01:39:23.200]  And if you handle yourself well, that may be what would turn her against the other side.
[01:39:23.200 --> 01:39:25.200]  Okay.
[01:39:25.200 --> 01:39:30.200]  Well, you know, my other question is, is it something funny about this?
[01:39:30.200 --> 01:39:36.200]  Because this other person, even though he's got a history of assault and a conviction, et cetera,
[01:39:36.200 --> 01:39:43.200]  was released on a personal bond requiring no money, which seems very strange to me.
[01:39:43.200 --> 01:39:44.200]  Okay, hold on.
[01:39:44.200 --> 01:39:45.200]  No, it's not.
[01:39:45.200 --> 01:39:47.200]  Is this in Travis County?
[01:39:47.200 --> 01:39:48.200]  It is.
[01:39:48.200 --> 01:39:51.200]  Almost standard procedure in Travis County.
[01:39:51.200 --> 01:39:52.200]  Oh.
[01:39:52.200 --> 01:39:54.200]  Yeah, they do that on a regular basis.
[01:39:54.200 --> 01:39:58.200]  So that's not an indication of anything.
[01:39:58.200 --> 01:39:59.200]  Okay.
[01:39:59.200 --> 01:40:00.200]  All right.
[01:40:00.200 --> 01:40:07.200]  The bondsman must hate that, but that's pretty consistent in Travis County.
[01:40:07.200 --> 01:40:08.200]  Okay.
[01:40:08.200 --> 01:40:13.200]  Well, then, you know, my other question is...
[01:40:13.200 --> 01:40:20.200]  I was trying to get hold of the constituting attorney, and, you know, because, I mean, number one,
[01:40:20.200 --> 01:40:27.200]  you know, he started out as a felony because he's had several assault charges and a conviction.
[01:40:27.200 --> 01:40:34.200]  And, you know, instead of waiting to plea it down, and so he was just being guilty,
[01:40:34.200 --> 01:40:41.200]  they just moved it down to another misdemeanor, which also seemed a little strange to me.
[01:40:41.200 --> 01:40:44.200]  Is that standard procedure as well?
[01:40:44.200 --> 01:40:47.200]  Because it doesn't make any sense to me.
[01:40:47.200 --> 01:40:48.200]  Wait.
[01:40:48.200 --> 01:40:49.200]  Say that again.
[01:40:49.200 --> 01:40:50.200]  I missed a part of that.
[01:40:50.200 --> 01:40:53.200]  Well, he was charged with a felony because he's already had several...
[01:40:53.200 --> 01:41:02.200]  You know, he's got several assault charges in process and a conviction.
[01:41:02.200 --> 01:41:09.200]  And so I thought it was just strange that, you know...
[01:41:09.200 --> 01:41:10.200]  Okay.
[01:41:10.200 --> 01:41:11.200]  Okay.
[01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:12.200]  That pleaded...
[01:41:12.200 --> 01:41:13.200]  Wait, wait a minute.
[01:41:13.200 --> 01:41:20.200]  Consider that you're a police officer, and you've got these two people that have issues
[01:41:20.200 --> 01:41:22.200]  between one another.
[01:41:22.200 --> 01:41:26.200]  And one of them has a history.
[01:41:26.200 --> 01:41:27.200]  And you probably...
[01:41:27.200 --> 01:41:31.200]  If you're a police officer and you deal with these kind of people all the time, you have
[01:41:31.200 --> 01:41:35.200]  these people coming through you and saying, you know, I've got this felony against me,
[01:41:35.200 --> 01:41:40.200]  and it's ruined my whole life.
[01:41:40.200 --> 01:41:49.200]  Every single thing I try to do, this felony comes up and automatically I'm the criminal.
[01:41:49.200 --> 01:41:51.200]  And I can't do anything.
[01:41:51.200 --> 01:41:53.000]  It's just ruined my whole life.
[01:41:53.000 --> 01:42:00.160]  We've had calls on the show this way that said they can't do anything, they can't function
[01:42:00.160 --> 01:42:07.440]  because this felony keeps coming up in everything and no matter what happens, they always believe
[01:42:07.440 --> 01:42:12.200]  what anybody says about them no matter what.
[01:42:12.200 --> 01:42:20.640]  And if you are a police officer with conscience, you're not going to want to throw someone
[01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:28.320]  in prison if somebody else is using their past history against them.
[01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:36.160]  So before you have this guy tossed in the joint for a felony, because he had an argument
[01:42:36.160 --> 01:42:41.640]  with somebody, you're going to want to vet this out really well.
[01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:47.800]  And I know when someone feels like they're a victim and then they have the police giving
[01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:53.440]  them a hard time, they feel like they're victimized a second time.
[01:42:53.440 --> 01:43:01.320]  But what if you're a policeman and you have to live with what you do?
[01:43:01.320 --> 01:43:07.240]  If somebody comes in and says, this felon, he has a history of violence, he did all this
[01:43:07.240 --> 01:43:15.480]  crap to me, and you accept that on its face and you put this guy in prison, you ruin his
[01:43:15.480 --> 01:43:18.720]  life.
[01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:22.600]  The policeman's going to have to go home and say, did I do the right thing?
[01:43:22.600 --> 01:43:31.600]  Well, my question was, why, it just sounds like kind of factory justice, if I've been
[01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:37.120]  a prosecutor, it would make sense to go over to the felony and let him flee down to a misdemeanor
[01:43:37.120 --> 01:43:43.160]  and even not even have to have a trial because I, okay, they will almost certainly do that.
[01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:48.160]  You know, they've already dropped you down to a misdemeanor.
[01:43:48.160 --> 01:43:51.160]  Yeah, they're trying to get him to deal out.
[01:43:51.160 --> 01:43:56.840]  Okay, hang on, they'll be right back, this is Randy Kelton, Debra Stephens, Eddie Craig,
[01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.160]  Rue Blau Radio, we'll be right back.
[01:44:00.160 --> 01:44:05.160]  It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the internet isn't so
[01:44:05.160 --> 01:44:08.880]  easy and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with.
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[01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:12.920]  Brave New Books?
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[01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:36.040]  Oh, by UT, there's never anywhere to park down there.
[01:44:36.040 --> 01:44:40.920]  Actually they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking
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[01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:22.400]  Oh, man, you're in jail, you got busted man, oh man, I'm broken.
[01:46:22.400 --> 01:46:32.360]  Something in this world I will never understand, something I realize fully, somebody's on
[01:46:32.360 --> 01:46:39.360]  a police line, somebody's on a police line, somebody's on a police line, somebody's on
[01:46:39.360 --> 01:47:00.640]  a police line, somebody's on a police line, somebody's on an ambulance, somebody's in
[01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:05.400]  a police line, everybody's on a police line, somebody's on a police line.
[01:47:05.400 --> 01:47:10.040]  If you can, can you call back tomorrow night?
[01:47:10.040 --> 01:47:12.360]  Your issue is a little more complex.
[01:47:12.360 --> 01:47:16.060]  I would like to address this a little bit more.
[01:47:16.060 --> 01:47:23.320]  But we have John and Jason Patrick, who's been on for an hour or more, and I would like
[01:47:23.320 --> 01:47:26.840]  to get at least kind of addressed them before we run out of time.
[01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:27.840]  Sure.
[01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:28.840]  Would that be all right, John?
[01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:30.800]  Yeah, I'll do my best.
[01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:33.080]  I kind of waited about an hour and a half to get on, too.
[01:47:33.080 --> 01:47:34.080]  Is there some way?
[01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:35.080]  I know.
[01:47:35.080 --> 01:47:39.240]  You, Jason, and Patrick have been on for a long time.
[01:47:39.240 --> 01:47:40.240]  Okay.
[01:47:40.240 --> 01:47:41.240]  All right.
[01:47:41.240 --> 01:47:42.240]  Awesome.
[01:47:42.240 --> 01:47:44.720]  Could I ask you one quick question, and I will call back?
[01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:45.720]  Yes.
[01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:51.600]  Do you think I have the possibility of a lawsuit or could have put a lien on the house in terms
[01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:53.800]  of the gentleman who owns this house?
[01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:56.640]  To me, it seems like willful negligence.
[01:47:56.640 --> 01:48:00.240]  That is a good question.
[01:48:00.240 --> 01:48:05.080]  I'm not sure what responsibility he has.
[01:48:05.080 --> 01:48:09.480]  This goes to an area of law where I'm not really knowledgeable.
[01:48:09.480 --> 01:48:12.360]  It goes to a winner law.
[01:48:12.360 --> 01:48:18.080]  You'd have to look at winner law, but it's not hard to look up because it's a very focused
[01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:20.080]  area of law.
[01:48:20.080 --> 01:48:21.080]  Okay.
[01:48:21.080 --> 01:48:24.240]  If you have a look at that, why don't you have a look at that and then call us back
[01:48:24.240 --> 01:48:25.240]  tomorrow night.
[01:48:25.240 --> 01:48:26.240]  Okay.
[01:48:26.240 --> 01:48:30.440]  We've got a four-hour show tonight, tomorrow night, we'll have more time.
[01:48:30.440 --> 01:48:31.440]  Awesome.
[01:48:31.440 --> 01:48:32.440]  Thanks a lot, Randy.
[01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:33.440]  I appreciate your time.
[01:48:33.440 --> 01:48:34.440]  Yeah, and call us in early.
[01:48:34.440 --> 01:48:38.440]  We'll try to pick you up quickly because it really builds up at the end.
[01:48:38.440 --> 01:48:39.440]  Yeah.
[01:48:39.440 --> 01:48:40.440]  Okay.
[01:48:40.440 --> 01:48:41.440]  Well, thank you.
[01:48:41.440 --> 01:48:42.440]  Okay.
[01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:43.440]  Thank you, John.
[01:48:43.440 --> 01:48:44.440]  Okay.
[01:48:44.440 --> 01:48:46.440]  Now we're going to go to Jason in Texas.
[01:48:46.440 --> 01:48:47.440]  Jason, I'm sorry.
[01:48:47.440 --> 01:48:48.440]  You had to wait so long.
[01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:49.440]  That's all right.
[01:48:49.440 --> 01:48:55.440]  Randy, I might have to take you to Small Claims Court for damages in the amount of 80 percent
[01:48:55.440 --> 01:48:58.440]  of my cell phone battery there.
[01:48:58.440 --> 01:48:59.440]  Okay.
[01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:02.240]  I will countersue for something.
[01:49:02.240 --> 01:49:04.440]  I'll just make it up.
[01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:05.440]  That'll work.
[01:49:05.440 --> 01:49:06.440]  Okay.
[01:49:06.440 --> 01:49:09.440]  I want to jump back to the minutes of the grand jury.
[01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:15.440]  I'm kind of similarly situated to the event that Eddie and Mary had today.
[01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:22.880]  I filed criminal charges against six police officers and I called down to the district
[01:49:22.880 --> 01:49:23.880]  court's office.
[01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:27.880]  Of course, they passed me around 10 times because nobody knew what I was even talking
[01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:29.600]  about with minutes of the grand jury.
[01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:36.640]  Finally, when I got ahold of the lady who was in charge of all that, she told me that
[01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:38.880]  the DA kept those records.
[01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:42.440]  So I realized that they shouldn't, but I was on the phone so I didn't cause a big stink
[01:49:42.440 --> 01:49:43.440]  about it.
[01:49:43.440 --> 01:49:51.280]  So what I did was I found my, there's a candidate running for district attorney and I know him.
[01:49:51.280 --> 01:49:52.280]  He's an acquaintance.
[01:49:52.280 --> 01:49:58.520]  I asked him about those minutes and he says, well, you know, I know that the indictment
[01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:03.240]  is public information and kept in the records, but I don't think anything else is.
[01:50:03.240 --> 01:50:11.800]  So in reference to Article 20, Code of Criminal Procedure, Article 20.22, it says here, the
[01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:17.880]  fact of a presentment of indictment by a grand jury shall be entered into the record of the
[01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:18.880]  court.
[01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:24.440]  Now, nowhere in statute can I find that it says a no-bill or this thing called pass is
[01:50:24.440 --> 01:50:25.960]  entered into any record of the court.
[01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:32.400]  Now, I agree with you wholeheartedly that it should be, otherwise, how is a citizen,
[01:50:32.400 --> 01:50:36.200]  you know, to know that their complaint was heard or not.
[01:50:36.200 --> 01:50:40.680]  But I can't find the statute where it says anything other than a presentment of indictment
[01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:43.880]  has to be entered on the record of the court.
[01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:44.880]  Okay.
[01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.600]  The court has to keep a record.
[01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:57.560]  This particular hearing, where the fact of the presentment of an indictment is entered
[01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:05.440]  into the minutes of the court, is a court of record.
[01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:15.080]  And what the, oh, I see where you're going, in Johnson County, you know, I talk about
[01:51:15.080 --> 01:51:20.560]  Johnson County here and I beat them up and kicked them around a whole lot, but they did
[01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:22.060]  it right.
[01:51:22.060 --> 01:51:27.040]  They brought in the grand jury and with the court of the grand jury present, the grand
[01:51:27.040 --> 01:51:33.560]  jury read the fact of an indictment, a true-bill or a no-bill, onto the record.
[01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:43.400]  If there is any question, we should be able to subpoena the records of the hearing because
[01:51:43.400 --> 01:51:51.280]  the grand jury is going to have to tell the court whether they indict it or not.
[01:51:51.280 --> 01:51:59.000]  And because the fact of an indictment must be in the minutes of the court, that doesn't
[01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:06.080]  mean that any other part of the court proceeding can be secret.
[01:52:06.080 --> 01:52:09.440]  This particular hearing is a public hearing.
[01:52:09.440 --> 01:52:10.440]  Right.
[01:52:10.440 --> 01:52:18.720]  Actually, it is a hearing and all hearings are public, but you do raise that very good
[01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:19.720]  question.
[01:52:19.720 --> 01:52:20.720]  Yeah.
[01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:24.520]  I mean, I just want to be solid in statute before I go down there trying to kick this
[01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.480]  DA in the shorts and I can't find what I need.
[01:52:27.480 --> 01:52:31.240]  So that is, okay, there's another way to go to it.
[01:52:31.240 --> 01:52:32.880]  That is a really good question.
[01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:35.680]  I like it when people kick me in my teeth.
[01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:44.760]  Kick me in my unestated presuppositions and then take you to Small Claims Court as well.
[01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:54.640]  The hardest things to find are the things we accept without thinking about them.
[01:52:54.640 --> 01:53:00.520]  That is the most difficult thing to find and that is a very good point.
[01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:06.680]  The fact of a true bill is required to be entered into the records of the court, but
[01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:08.600]  not the fact of a no-bill.
[01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:09.600]  Right.
[01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:14.480]  And I realize you've got to be thinking about it.
[01:53:14.480 --> 01:53:22.760]  If the fact of a true bill is to be entered into the court and under 20.09, the grand jury
[01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:31.960]  is required to examine into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge by way of the
[01:53:31.960 --> 01:53:40.600]  district attorney or any credible person, then if you haven't brought to the knowledge
[01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:49.960]  of the grand jury a criminal accusation, they are by 20.09 required to examine into it.
[01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:59.880]  And then they are required, I think it says that if they vote to true bill, the foreman
[01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:08.600]  is required to gather up all the documents had in the hearing and forward them to the
[01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:12.680]  district attorney and request that he prepare an indictment.
[01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:13.680]  Right.
[01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:14.680]  That's 20.19.
[01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:21.280]  Yes, but that again refers to a presentment of the indictment after a vote has been taken
[01:54:21.280 --> 01:54:22.280]  to indict.
[01:54:22.280 --> 01:54:23.280]  Yes.
[01:54:23.280 --> 01:54:33.200]  So, if you have prepared a criminal accusation and presented it to the grand jury through
[01:54:33.200 --> 01:54:40.480]  the United States mail, you have a reasonable assumption that the United States mail delivered
[01:54:40.480 --> 01:54:43.760]  it to the grand jury.
[01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.120]  You have no evidence that they did not.
[01:54:46.120 --> 01:54:49.480]  I know where you're going.
[01:54:49.480 --> 01:54:58.080]  So the grand jury is then required under statute to examine into that accusation.
[01:54:58.080 --> 01:55:09.720]  If there is no true bill, then there must have been a vote on the grand jury to no bill.
[01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:11.220]  Okay.
[01:55:11.220 --> 01:55:13.480]  That raises a question.
[01:55:13.480 --> 01:55:24.080]  If we don't find evidence of a true bill in the minutes, then how do we go back and make
[01:55:24.080 --> 01:55:34.800]  the determination that the grand jury actually examined into the issue?
[01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:35.800]  Right.
[01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:38.400]  That's the question.
[01:55:38.400 --> 01:55:46.680]  If we don't find a true bill and they didn't give notice that there was a vote to no bill,
[01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:50.640]  that would give evidence that the grand jury actually heard the issue.
[01:55:50.640 --> 01:55:59.640]  Since the grand jury is required to hear the issue by statute, if they fail to do so, then
[01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:02.720]  that would be a criminal act.
[01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:03.720]  Right.
[01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:14.520]  So we should have, and if they, if you filed the criminal complaint on an issue that affected
[01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:20.840]  your rights, that should go to 14th Amendment equal protection of the law.
[01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:29.200]  So you should have reason to believe that the grand jury failed to examine into a criminal
[01:56:29.200 --> 01:56:36.520]  accusation that came to their knowledge because there's no evidence that they did.
[01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:41.960]  If they actually did something, it would behoove them to provide evidence to indicate that they
[01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:49.880]  did, which would be notice of a no bill, which they did in Johnson County.
[01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:55.400]  If they didn't do that, then you don't have any knowledge that they even examined into
[01:56:55.400 --> 01:57:01.200]  the accusations, so file against the grand jury.
[01:57:01.200 --> 01:57:02.200]  Okay.
[01:57:02.200 --> 01:57:06.920]  I'll tell you what, I know you've got another caller and I'll look into this a little bit
[01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:10.400]  more to see if I can't see something that's staring me in the face.
[01:57:10.400 --> 01:57:13.120]  So I'll do some reading and I'll call back in tomorrow.
[01:57:13.120 --> 01:57:14.120]  Good.
[01:57:14.120 --> 01:57:17.360]  Do call you because that was a very good question.
[01:57:17.360 --> 01:57:25.480]  These are exactly the things that give us really strong presence when we vetted out
[01:57:25.480 --> 01:57:29.680]  all of these things that we haven't thought about.
[01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:33.160]  And frankly, you caught me flat-footed, you stumped the chump.
[01:57:33.160 --> 01:57:36.160]  Well, I'm glad I could do it.
[01:57:36.160 --> 01:57:40.960]  Add me to the list of maybe the number you can count on one hand, right?
[01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:41.960]  Oh, no.
[01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:45.160]  I wish I could only count it on one hand.
[01:57:45.160 --> 01:57:46.160]  Okay.
[01:57:46.160 --> 01:57:47.760]  Oh, I am.
[01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:48.760]  Okay.
[01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:49.760]  Thank you.
[01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:50.760]  Thank you very much.
[01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:51.760]  We're going to go to Patrick real quick.
[01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:56.760]  Patrick, I'm sorry we used up more time and quickly.
[01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:00.960]  What is your issue and maybe we can handle each other more night?
[01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:01.960]  That's okay.
[01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:02.960]  I'll call back.
[01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:06.960]  I just want to say quick, I dug into the course.
[01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:11.760]  It's phenomenal and that previous caller is a perfect example of how you can keep these
[01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:17.560]  courts on their heels going and prepared, understanding your power, it's very liberating.
[01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:19.360]  And I'll touch base with you guys tomorrow night.
[01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:20.360]  Thank you.
[01:58:20.360 --> 01:58:21.360]  Thank you, Patrick.
[01:58:21.360 --> 01:58:22.760]  And I'm sorry we couldn't get to you.
[01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:27.160]  This is Randy Kelton, Debbie Stevens, Eddie Craig live on the radio.
[01:58:27.160 --> 01:58:31.640]  We'll be back tomorrow night with our four-hour info marathon.
[01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:34.880]  So hopefully we'll have a little more time.
[01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:41.120]  I know I tend to spend a lot of time on issues, but we do that when we have a really good
[01:58:41.120 --> 01:58:42.120]  educational issue.
[01:58:42.120 --> 01:58:47.120]  So if you have to wait a while, be patient with us, we'll do the best we can.
[01:58:47.120 --> 01:58:50.120]  We'll be back tomorrow night.
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