[00:00.000 --> 00:04.000] Put down that coffee. [00:04.000 --> 00:08.000] There's a chance you may be drinking it out of a carcinogenic cup. [00:08.000 --> 00:14.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back in just a moment with frightening new information about styrofoam. [00:14.000 --> 00:16.000] Privacy is under attack. [00:16.000 --> 00:19.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [00:19.000 --> 00:24.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [00:24.000 --> 00:26.000] So protect your rights. [00:26.000 --> 00:29.000] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [00:29.000 --> 00:32.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [00:32.000 --> 00:35.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, [00:35.000 --> 00:39.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [00:39.000 --> 00:42.000] Start over with StartPage. [00:42.000 --> 00:46.000] It's used for everything from packing peanuts to coffee cups, [00:46.000 --> 00:50.000] but now the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services says styrene, [00:50.000 --> 00:53.000] a component of styrofoam, may cause cancer. [00:53.000 --> 00:59.000] The government based its warning on studies that linked the chemical with lymphatic cancer and genetic damage. [00:59.000 --> 01:06.000] Styrene is used to make plastic products like pipes, carpet backing, insulation, and of course, styrofoam cups. [01:06.000 --> 01:11.000] Chronic exposure leads to memory loss, headaches, vertigo, and tiredness. [01:11.000 --> 01:18.000] So don't let your kids drink out of styrofoam cups, which are also tempting to bite down on and chew or pick into little pieces. [01:18.000 --> 01:22.000] And be sure to drink your own coffee out of a ceramic mug. [01:22.000 --> 01:27.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:32.000 --> 01:35.000] Attention, 40-something male creeps. [01:35.000 --> 01:39.000] If you're embarking on to the Internet from your mom's basement, pretending to be a 16-year-old girl, [01:39.000 --> 01:42.000] I'm on to your tricks. Well, sort of. [01:42.000 --> 01:47.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht, and I'll be back to tell you how researchers can determine your gender online. [01:47.000 --> 01:49.000] Privacy is under attack. [01:49.000 --> 01:53.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:53.000 --> 01:57.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:57.000 --> 01:59.000] So protect your rights. [01:59.000 --> 02:03.000] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [02:03.000 --> 02:05.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [02:05.000 --> 02:09.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, [02:09.000 --> 02:13.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [02:13.000 --> 02:16.000] Start over with StartPage. [02:16.000 --> 02:21.000] OMG, you can totally tell I'm a girl, exclamation mark. [02:21.000 --> 02:25.000] Women and women communicate differently, even in microbursts of text. [02:25.000 --> 02:32.000] Researchers at the MITRE Corporation say they can tell a person's gender 75% of the time by reading all their tweets. [02:32.000 --> 02:37.000] And with just one tweet, 140 tiny characters, they get it right two times out of three. [02:37.000 --> 02:43.000] Women use more punctuation, convey more emotion, and use more phrases like, haha, in LOL. [02:43.000 --> 02:47.000] Knowing that could be useful to marketing vultures and other creeps, [02:47.000 --> 02:51.000] so keep a lookout for imposters and be careful what you share with strangers. [02:51.000 --> 02:54.000] I'll feel that advice with a smiley. [02:54.000 --> 02:59.000] Like Dr. Catherine Albrecht, more news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [02:59.000 --> 03:10.000] You're listening to the Logos Radio Network at LogosRadioNetwork.com. [03:29.000 --> 03:39.000] We're back. We're in Kelton-Depth, Stevens, and Craig. [03:39.000 --> 03:43.000] You're live radio. We're talking to Joshua in Florida. [03:43.000 --> 03:48.000] Joshua, you were kind of giving us the rundown. You want to go ahead? [03:48.000 --> 03:55.000] Sure. I was leaving off. We left off at the break at a part where the story was just about to get in thrifting. [03:55.000 --> 04:02.000] I basically went to a motion to suppress hearing where both of the attorneys, [04:02.000 --> 04:09.000] or I'm sorry, both of the police officers involved did make their testimony during this motion to suppress hearing. [04:09.000 --> 04:14.000] The second officer, his signature would be Z. [04:14.000 --> 04:20.000] He came in and literally admitted to illegally searching my vehicle. [04:20.000 --> 04:25.000] Upon his other testimony, he also admitted to never making communication with myself, [04:25.000 --> 04:28.000] the other officer, or anybody else that was involved. [04:28.000 --> 04:36.000] He did not have any prior knowledge of me and ultimately then admitted to walking up to my right rear passenger door [04:36.000 --> 04:40.000] and opening the vehicle and performing his search. [04:40.000 --> 04:44.000] The first cop, his signature would be P. [04:44.000 --> 04:50.000] He came in and he testified to the fact that he says he smelled marijuana. [04:50.000 --> 04:56.000] I don't know whether he testified upon approaching or whether it was when he asked for licensing registration. [04:56.000 --> 05:09.000] But either way, it's contradictory because he testified in deposition that he did not have probable cause until after Officer Number 2 Z performed his search. [05:09.000 --> 05:16.000] That being said, that day the judge made a ruling using the Doctrine of Inevitable Discovery, [05:16.000 --> 05:24.000] which basically suggests that even though a person has had federal rights violations and were able to prove it, [05:24.000 --> 05:30.000] what if we would have had a second chance to do this again? Would we have found it anyway? [05:30.000 --> 05:34.000] I find that whole statute unconstitutional on its face. [05:34.000 --> 05:39.000] The bottom line is that I was able to prove in court that my civil rights were violated, [05:39.000 --> 05:42.000] my federal rights were violated, and I thought federal... [05:42.000 --> 05:47.000] Okay, this is a whole new standard. [05:47.000 --> 05:59.000] I've never heard of this, that we can do an intrusive search without a warrant because it's something we would have found anyway. [05:59.000 --> 06:08.000] Well, I have the Doctrine of Inevitable Discovery here, the statute, and it ultimately says, [06:08.000 --> 06:15.000] Inevitable Discovery is the Doctrine in the United States criminal procedure that allows evidence of a defendant's guilt [06:15.000 --> 06:22.000] that would otherwise be considered inadmissible under exclusionary rule to be admitted into evidence in a trial. [06:22.000 --> 06:30.000] The doctrine was adopted first by the United States Supreme Court and the Knicks v. Williams in 1984. [06:30.000 --> 06:36.000] It holds that evidence obtained in violation of the defendant's constitutional rights is admissible in court [06:36.000 --> 06:44.000] if it can be established by a preponderance of the evidence that normal police investigation would have inevitably led to the discovery of the evidence. [06:44.000 --> 06:53.000] The rationale for the rule is that police misconduct is sufficiently deterred and the interests of society are better served [06:53.000 --> 07:00.000] by putting police in the same position that they would have been without the right violation, not a worse position. [07:00.000 --> 07:06.000] And that's word for word, the Doctrine of Inevitable Discovery, from their legislation. [07:06.000 --> 07:11.000] Now, with that being said, at that point I was just ready to pull my hair out. [07:11.000 --> 07:18.000] I thought I had won my case. The judge made his order. He completely addressed what the officer did as long, [07:18.000 --> 07:25.000] but still used the Doctrine of Inevitable Discovery to deny my motion to suppress the evidence. [07:25.000 --> 07:30.000] At that point I was specifically given about it two weeks. I'm sorry. [07:30.000 --> 07:38.000] Have you filed a judicial conduct complaint against the judge in a motion to disqualify forward competence? [07:38.000 --> 07:47.000] I have not, but I am taking every note that I can get from you and I will be holding these people's feet to the fire really, really quickly. [07:47.000 --> 07:53.000] Okay. The best thing we can do is start filing complaints against them. [07:53.000 --> 07:58.000] So far they get away with it. A lawyer's won't do it, but we need to. [07:58.000 --> 08:08.000] That judge has a duty to determine the evidence in accordance with the rules of evidence, [08:08.000 --> 08:15.000] then apply the law as it comes to him to the facts in the case. [08:15.000 --> 08:26.000] If he does anything else, he's in breach of his duty and we need to start hammering them, make them pay for it. [08:26.000 --> 08:38.000] Judges can't be sued, but judges do have a insurance backing through generally the county or the state. [08:38.000 --> 08:43.000] Too many claims against that, they're history. [08:43.000 --> 08:45.000] So we need to start hitting them where it hurts. [08:45.000 --> 08:55.000] If this judge wants to play fast and loose with your life and your constitutional privileges, let's make him pay for it. [08:55.000 --> 09:00.000] And I'm all about that, Randy. And I do want to talk about what you just said about judges cannot be sued. [09:00.000 --> 09:06.000] I want to come back to that in a minute because this case gets even more interesting based on what this judge did. [09:06.000 --> 09:13.000] At that point, I spoke with my attorney. He said, you know, you basically have about two weeks before your next court appearance. [09:13.000 --> 09:17.000] And I want you to consider the idea of thanking the government's offer. [09:17.000 --> 09:23.000] Ultimately, you can see that this is a one-sided judge. You can see that you're not going to win this case at trial. [09:23.000 --> 09:30.000] You know, wait a minute. Hold on. Did your attorney tell say that you had a one-sided judge? [09:30.000 --> 09:33.000] Oh, several times. Several times. [09:33.000 --> 09:42.000] Oh, wonderful. Do you, would you per chance have him recorded saying something like that? [09:42.000 --> 09:45.000] No, I wish I would have. [09:45.000 --> 09:57.000] You need to take about two recorders with you so that you put one in front of him and if he asks you to turn it off, tell him no problem. [09:57.000 --> 10:05.000] Give him on tape. If you challenge him with this, he'll deny it, but that's okay. [10:05.000 --> 10:09.000] It's worth the challenge anyway. [10:09.000 --> 10:23.000] But we really need to start going back after these officials who are carrying out the plans and machinations of people in higher positions than they are. [10:23.000 --> 10:26.000] Okay, I'll stop interrupting. Go ahead. [10:26.000 --> 10:31.000] No, you're all right, Randy. I'm calling you for help. So you tell me everything you can because I need to know it. [10:31.000 --> 10:44.000] So basically what I was saying was that at that point, he gave me this two weeks. He said, you need to have a plan and be ready when you come back here to make a choice of whether we're going to go to trial or whether we're going to take the government's offer in this case. [10:44.000 --> 10:59.000] Well, in two weeks, I had plenty of time to do my research and I came back. Ultimately, at that point, I asked him to go in front of the judge and dismiss the case, not motion to suppress, dismiss the case based on fourth and 14th amendment violations. [10:59.000 --> 11:10.000] He approached the bench. He wasn't able to hear a lot about what was said, but I do believe that he addressed it because the judge addressed it when he was done speaking to him at the bench. [11:10.000 --> 11:22.000] At that point, the judge also spoke to me and said, I'm also finding another ruling, which contradicts his first ruling, that the federal officer rule applies in this case. [11:22.000 --> 11:32.000] Well, remember earlier, I said that the second officer, the one who performed the illegal search, testified to making no communication with the first officer myself or anybody else involved. [11:32.000 --> 11:35.000] He testified to only showing up his backup. [11:35.000 --> 11:45.000] Now, the ruling that this judge made suggests telepathy after hearing that this officer has said that he had no communication. [11:45.000 --> 11:49.000] And I'll go ahead and read the federal officer rule for those who don't know what it is. [11:49.000 --> 11:53.000] The federal officer rule, well, I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I'm going to let you know. [11:53.000 --> 12:01.000] In section nine of this statute, it specifies that the information may be in the form of an oral directive or a written bulletin. [12:01.000 --> 12:04.000] At that point, my lawyer was in an uproar. [12:04.000 --> 12:07.000] You're honored. You're not using that correctly. [12:07.000 --> 12:10.000] That's not how the federal officer rule comes into play. [12:10.000 --> 12:12.000] There has to be. [12:12.000 --> 12:16.000] He basically cut my lawyer short, said I've made my ruling. That's what I'm going to do. [12:16.000 --> 12:25.000] So at that point, I was basically forced under duress to either go to trial with this judge or take the government's offer. [12:25.000 --> 12:30.000] The contradiction is, you know, obviously there was no oral directive. [12:30.000 --> 12:32.000] There was no written bulletin. There was no communication. [12:32.000 --> 12:34.000] Again, that suggests telepathy. [12:34.000 --> 12:44.000] And him using that statute to say that there was no illegal search really overrides this first judgment of the doctrine of inevitable discovery. [12:44.000 --> 12:51.000] Because you have to have a civil rights violation in order to use the doctrine of inevitable discovery. [12:51.000 --> 12:57.000] Now, there were some issues as well that didn't necessarily come up in the case. [12:57.000 --> 13:01.000] For example, the credibility of the first officer. [13:01.000 --> 13:10.000] At one point, he testified to smelling marijuana upon approaching the vehicle, smelling marijuana upon asking for license and registration. [13:10.000 --> 13:17.000] And again, in deposition, he spoke of not having probable cause until the search was conducted. [13:17.000 --> 13:25.000] It really came down to this officer's testimony of I smelled marijuana and I was going to search regardless. [13:25.000 --> 13:44.000] So if it's a matter of the word of an officer against the word of a citizen, absent qualifying information, the court must accept the veracity of the affidant. [13:44.000 --> 13:49.000] So it's clear that this is improper. [13:49.000 --> 14:01.000] But I've been leaning more toward judicial conduct than toward administrative complaint because administrative complaints don't necessarily go anywhere. [14:01.000 --> 14:05.000] The grand jury complaints do. Go ahead, Jim. [14:05.000 --> 14:14.000] Well, I wanted to bring up the issue of another another couple of things that were, you know, honestly to this officer's credibility. [14:14.000 --> 14:20.000] He claims in his police report that he found 39 grams of marijuana. [14:20.000 --> 14:29.000] But the lab report suggests that there was 27 grams of marijuana and only 31 grams if you count the police bag that they put it in. [14:29.000 --> 14:33.000] That never came up in trial. [14:33.000 --> 14:37.000] One of the things that did come up in trial is that I was in the back of the cruiser. [14:37.000 --> 14:50.000] All my possessions have been removed from me. I'll put on the hood of this officer's car and officer number one is telling officer number two that the only reason he pulled me over was for being a white guy driving Mercedes in a black neighborhood. [14:50.000 --> 14:53.000] And he just knew I was down here buying crack. [14:53.000 --> 15:02.000] But he heard me say he saw that I heard him say that with his window cracked and literally acknowledged it and apologized. [15:02.000 --> 15:09.000] That came up in court. Both officers clearly denied that. [15:09.000 --> 15:19.000] I just, I've heard you talk in the past about, you know, the officer pointing his vehicle directly at the jail and not taking the person to a magistrate is being aggravated kidnapping. [15:19.000 --> 15:26.000] I want him charged with it. I want him charged with aggravated kidnapping and I intend to pursue that against the police officer. [15:26.000 --> 15:34.000] Now, as far as the judge goes, the catch 22 all this with the judge did was he used one ruling to override his other ruling. [15:34.000 --> 15:39.000] And in the process of doing that, he covered the cop who provided the illegal searches. [15:39.000 --> 15:47.000] But the fine part about it is I don't want to do anything to the guy that told the truth. That cop came in and told the truth. [15:47.000 --> 15:52.000] So I don't have any problem with him. I don't intend of doing anything to him. [15:52.000 --> 15:59.000] In fact, when I was being arrested, him and a couple other officers surrounded me and somewhat protected me from this first cop. [15:59.000 --> 16:05.000] The first cop was so absurd in his actions that they did in front of witnesses. [16:05.000 --> 16:13.000] He literally drove off with all of my possessions on the hood of his vehicle. [16:13.000 --> 16:22.000] So that's belong in the sort of case. And I did mention earlier that you said a judge cannot be sued. [16:22.000 --> 16:26.000] And I have found evidence that ultimately goes through some... [16:26.000 --> 16:31.000] Hold on. I never said a judge could not be sued. [16:31.000 --> 16:40.000] It is extremely difficult to sue a judge because they all protect each other. [16:40.000 --> 16:46.000] But it can be done. And when we come back on the other side, I'll explain it. [16:46.000 --> 16:49.000] Eddie, will you take this out and I'll call a purchase down? [16:49.000 --> 17:11.000] Alright folks, this is Rule of Law Radio, calling 512-646-1984. We'll be right back on the other side of this break. [17:19.000 --> 17:26.000] This is the man who's been on all sides, supported our bailouts and provided the blueprint for Obamacare. [17:26.000 --> 17:33.000] Three men, one vision, more big government, more men base, less freedom. 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My friend and all I judge are the couple. [19:19.000 --> 19:33.000] Don't spin behind me, pretty. Telling me a problem in the end. Calling his name once again. Every day you'll know he will stay in. Don't spin behind me, pretty. [19:33.000 --> 19:40.000] Okay, we're back. We're going to tell their things at Craig with Loretia and Joshua. [19:40.000 --> 19:46.000] Eddie tells me that I said judges couldn't be sued. [19:46.000 --> 19:54.000] I must be brain dead or I was in the middle of a statement and somehow lost a piece of it. [19:54.000 --> 20:00.000] Judges cannot be sued for the decisions that they make. [20:00.000 --> 20:01.000] Right. [20:01.000 --> 20:14.000] And the only times effectively that they can be sued is when they act without subject matter jurisdiction. [20:14.000 --> 20:26.000] If a judge sits on the bench and acts with clear prejudice, it can't be sued for that. [20:26.000 --> 20:36.000] If he renders rulings that are obviously false, he can't be sued for the ruling that he renders. [20:36.000 --> 20:48.000] What he can be sued for is acting without subject matter jurisdiction and violating a ministerial duty. [20:48.000 --> 20:55.000] Now suing a judge for violating a ministerial duty will be extremely difficult. [20:55.000 --> 21:01.000] But because you get to make the claims, it will most likely be worth it. [21:01.000 --> 21:07.000] The judge will maintain that he's being sued for a decision that he made. [21:07.000 --> 21:18.000] And you're going to say the judge has a ministerial duty to develop the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence, [21:18.000 --> 21:28.000] then apply the law as it comes to him to the facts in the case. [21:28.000 --> 21:36.000] If he fails to do that, you don't sue him for the decision that he made but for failing to apply the law to the facts. [21:36.000 --> 21:42.000] Then that's a real hard rule to go through because all these judges are going to want to protect each other. [21:42.000 --> 21:45.000] Subject matter jurisdiction, that's a whole other thing. [21:45.000 --> 21:47.000] Okay, go ahead Joshua. [21:47.000 --> 21:53.000] I agree with you completely and I'd like to quote a statute from the United States Supreme Court. [21:53.000 --> 21:58.000] When the judge does not follow the law, I heed they are a trespasser of the law. [21:58.000 --> 22:04.000] The judge loses subject matter jurisdiction and the judge's orders are void of no legal force or effect. [22:04.000 --> 22:12.000] And that's the United States Supreme Court, and I can't even pronounce it, S-C-H-E-U-E-R versus Rhodes, [22:12.000 --> 22:19.000] stated that when a state officer acts under state law in a manner violative to the federal Constitution, [22:19.000 --> 22:23.000] he comes into conflict with the superior authority of that Constitution. [22:23.000 --> 22:31.000] He is in that case stripped of his official representation character and its subject in his person to the consequences of his individual conduct. [22:31.000 --> 22:37.000] The state has no power to impart him any immunity from responsibility to the supreme authority of the United States. [22:37.000 --> 22:40.000] And that's just basically rejecting what you just said. [22:40.000 --> 22:50.000] I'm not suing for the judgment, but I can't attack him for his not applying the law, for his violation of my constitutional right, [22:50.000 --> 22:57.000] using these statues that contradict each other, that's due process, that kind of thing. [22:57.000 --> 23:07.000] Word of warning Joshua, do not pursue any action you take on the grounds of constitutional rights violations. [23:07.000 --> 23:08.000] Okay. [23:08.000 --> 23:16.000] All whatever he did, repugnant to the right of due process, repugnant to any other right specifically, [23:16.000 --> 23:24.000] but do not write it into your complaint as a constitutional rights violation. [23:24.000 --> 23:28.000] That will get you nowhere fast in these courts. [23:28.000 --> 23:32.000] You're presuming the courts are operating under Constitution. [23:32.000 --> 23:35.000] They are not. [23:35.000 --> 23:46.000] Instead of quoting Constitution, looking the statutes for every right specified in the Constitution, [23:46.000 --> 23:53.000] there will be statutes put in place to ensure those rights. [23:53.000 --> 24:04.000] Yeah, what the courts have done is they have basically said the rights you can claim are the ones that we have made rulings upon from the Constitution. [24:04.000 --> 24:10.000] And what those rights are is based upon the language we used in our decisions. [24:10.000 --> 24:18.000] So what you have to use is the case law and the legislative acts, the statutes as Randy's saying, [24:18.000 --> 24:22.000] that says these rights are codified in the following ways. [24:22.000 --> 24:26.000] These rights are adjudicated in the following ways. [24:26.000 --> 24:37.000] But if you cite just the authority of the Constitution, they will steamroll you like a pancake at the Waffle House. [24:37.000 --> 24:41.000] Understood and agreed 100%. [24:41.000 --> 24:44.000] All of my rights were violated in the courtroom. [24:44.000 --> 24:51.000] You know, I walk in there expecting to be a citizen of the United States who was protected under certain unalienable rights. [24:51.000 --> 24:56.000] Ultimately, I can see your point and it's reiterated. [24:56.000 --> 24:58.000] So that's basically the story. [24:58.000 --> 24:59.000] That's what happened. [24:59.000 --> 25:01.000] And I'm looking for a plan of attack against these guys. [25:01.000 --> 25:04.000] Like I said, I want to go after officer number one. [25:04.000 --> 25:16.000] I want to check the statutes in the state and see if it's, you know, aggravated kidnapping or what the charge ultimately leads to for not bringing me to a magistrate where I would be able to explain my case. [25:16.000 --> 25:21.000] Ultimately, I was never given that option. I was never given the option to go to court. [25:21.000 --> 25:24.000] First, they put me in a drug court. We've already talked about that. [25:24.000 --> 25:30.000] The next step would be, you know, obviously going after the judge, both of them at the same time, it's fine. [25:30.000 --> 25:33.000] But my concern is that I'm on probation. [25:33.000 --> 25:34.000] I'm under the thumb. [25:34.000 --> 25:36.000] I do fear retaliation. [25:36.000 --> 25:38.000] I do fear what they're going to be. [25:38.000 --> 25:43.000] Okay, good. Let me address that. [25:43.000 --> 25:50.000] As even though you're on probation, you are still a citizen. You're still a sovereign. [25:50.000 --> 25:54.000] You know, I own my own company. [25:54.000 --> 25:58.000] And right now I don't have many employees, but I have had a number. [25:58.000 --> 26:12.000] And if I have managers who manage employees and I have a problem with one of my employees, I don't go to the employee. [26:12.000 --> 26:15.000] I go to the manager. [26:15.000 --> 26:25.000] I go to the person newest to me because I've delegated this authority before below me. [26:25.000 --> 26:37.000] And when you have issues with how the public officials are adjudicating their duty, you are the sovereign. [26:37.000 --> 26:48.000] So I suggest you take your complaints as high as you can, as quickly as you can. [26:48.000 --> 26:56.000] And we talk about a standard procedure of how to do that. [26:56.000 --> 27:13.000] Wait a minute. You are in Florida, so somewhat different, but the first thing you would do is go to the district attorney and ask him to prosecute perpetrators, which he's going to almost certainly refuse. [27:13.000 --> 27:29.000] And then you take a complaint against the prosecutor and you accuse the prosecutor not of exercising judicial discretion in making a determination of whether to prosecute or not. [27:29.000 --> 27:36.000] Because if you file criminal charges against the judge, the prosecutor is going to refuse to prosecute. You can be sure of that. [27:36.000 --> 27:58.000] So when he does, then you file and you prepare a complaint against him for exercising judicial caprice in that he has decided who he wants to prosecute as opposed to who he does not want to prosecute, and that is not a power that the prosecutor has. [27:58.000 --> 28:07.000] So you accuse him of that and you make the accusation to the highest level judge you can find. [28:07.000 --> 28:15.000] And I suggest you take it to the Chief Justice of your Supreme Court. [28:15.000 --> 28:31.000] Because when you do that, the Chief Justice is going to forget something and he's going to tell you where you really should take these to the Sheriff's Department because he'll send you a letter to that effect. [28:31.000 --> 28:48.000] Then you take that letter and you put it with a criminal complaint against the Chief Justice accusing the Chief Justice of shielding the prosecuting attorney. [28:48.000 --> 28:50.000] I'm sorry, I lost my place. [28:50.000 --> 28:59.000] You take a complaint to the Chief Justice against the District Attorney accusing the District Attorney of shielding the accused from prosecution. [28:59.000 --> 29:15.000] In Texas, we have Article 3.03 which directs the prosecuting attorney in a matter of a complaint against a public official to reduce the complaint to an information submitted to the grand jury. [29:15.000 --> 29:26.000] Most of the states don't have that specific requirement, but we can get around it by saying that the prosecuting attorney was given a certain amount of discretion. [29:26.000 --> 29:33.000] They determined whether or not he had reason to believe that the crime didn't commit it. [29:33.000 --> 29:53.000] You may intend that he did not exercise that discretion, but he did exercise to confrice and decided who he wanted to prosecute and who he did not and that is not enough of what he has, but shielding from prosecution and that's a crime in every state. [29:53.000 --> 30:00.000] Randy Coutnay, Deputy Chief Justice Craig, Rue's Law Radio, we'll be right back. [30:00.000 --> 30:06.000] This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11. [30:06.000 --> 30:08.000] The government says that fire brought it down. [30:08.000 --> 30:13.000] However, 1,500 architects and engineers have concluded it was a controlled demolition. 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[32:48.000 --> 33:00.000] Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, RueLawRadio. [33:00.000 --> 33:11.000] We were talking through a ton to Joshua and Hector, and I'm talking about how to protect yourself from the police. [33:11.000 --> 33:21.000] This is how it works in every jurisdiction I've ever seen. The law only kind of sort of matters. [33:21.000 --> 33:30.000] Everything is political, and if you want the police not to mess with you, you want to get to the highest individual you can as fast as you can. [33:30.000 --> 33:36.000] And I used to send people to different judges, but I'm beginning to think that's a bad strategy. [33:36.000 --> 33:49.000] We are after all the sovereigns. So the first place you want to go is to prosecute an attorney and make your accusation to him against these officers for acting improperly, [33:49.000 --> 33:58.000] or against the judge or whoever these officials are. And then when the prosecuting attorney refuses to do his job, [33:58.000 --> 34:09.000] then you accuse him not of exercising prosecutorial discretion, but of exercising prosecutorial police, [34:09.000 --> 34:16.000] in that he decided who he wanted to prosecute and who he did not want to prosecute. [34:16.000 --> 34:21.000] And that is not a power that has been granted to him. [34:21.000 --> 34:26.000] And you make the accusation to the highest judge you can find. [34:26.000 --> 34:40.000] And the thing the highest judge will do is he'll send you this very pleasant letter instructing you that, you know, you really should take this to the Sheriff's Department. [34:40.000 --> 34:56.000] And then what I suggest you do is you take that letter as a refusal on the part of a judge to perform his duty as a magistrate in Texas. [34:56.000 --> 35:04.000] Article 2.09, Code of Criminal Procedure, entitled, Who Are Magistrates? [35:04.000 --> 35:12.000] And every state I've looked in has a comparable statute. Who are magistrates? [35:12.000 --> 35:18.000] Justices of the Supreme Court. [35:18.000 --> 35:29.000] Judges of the Court of Appeals, District Judges, County Judges, Justices of the Peace, Municipal Judges, and Mayors. [35:29.000 --> 35:39.000] This is consistent across the United States. Texas also has recorders and they've interpreted that to mean judges of corporation courts. [35:39.000 --> 35:44.000] But always the first one, the Supreme Court. [35:44.000 --> 35:57.000] And since you're the magistrate, I'm sorry, magistrate, since you are the sovereign, that is the place you should go first in the hierarchy. [35:57.000 --> 36:16.000] Now, if you have a policeman down here who has himself an attitude, when he finds out that you're landing on the Chief Justice of the Supreme with both feet, the word will be, leave that SOB alone. [36:16.000 --> 36:24.000] I once got stopped, last time I was stopped here in Wise County where I live. [36:24.000 --> 36:34.000] It was early one Saturday morning and the Sheriff's Deputy pulled me over, pulling this gooseneck trailer at 70 miles an hour in a 60 mile an hour zone. [36:34.000 --> 36:39.000] And then he found that the plates had been expired for a couple of years. [36:39.000 --> 36:46.000] And he come back and he said, well, Mr. Cotton, you really need to slow down a little bit and get that plate replaced. [36:46.000 --> 36:50.000] I'm just going to give you a warning you can go. [36:50.000 --> 36:57.000] The next morning I walk into the cleaning store across the street and Bobby Jack Crew said, would you do that police officer? [36:57.000 --> 37:01.000] The Sheriff's Deputy yesterday, I didn't do anything to him, why? [37:01.000 --> 37:07.000] Well, he called in your name and the dispatcher told him, don't you dare arrest that SOB. [37:07.000 --> 37:11.000] You give him license and get him out of there. [37:11.000 --> 37:20.000] That's because I hammered the district judge and everybody's afraid of the judges. [37:20.000 --> 37:28.000] The only one who doesn't have to be afraid of the judges are the sovereigns. [37:28.000 --> 37:34.000] And when we understand that, then we start to take control back. [37:34.000 --> 37:38.000] You get as high as you can, as fast as you can. [37:38.000 --> 37:48.000] You're kicking the Chief Justice of the Supreme in his political teeth and a low level, [37:48.000 --> 37:56.000] flunky, narcissistic, psychopathic police officer wants to give you a hard time. [37:56.000 --> 38:06.000] You file criminal charges against the Chief Justice of the Supreme for sending that officer out to retaliate against you. [38:06.000 --> 38:12.000] Now, what do you think the Chief Justice is going to do when he finds out [38:12.000 --> 38:21.000] that you filed against him for retaliation because of some idiot cop down here at the bottom? [38:21.000 --> 38:24.000] This is how you keep them off of you. [38:24.000 --> 38:30.000] You have to become politically dangerous to them. [38:30.000 --> 38:39.000] And the only way you're going to do that is find someone above them that they're afraid of [38:39.000 --> 38:43.000] and kick that person in their teeth. [38:43.000 --> 38:47.000] And that person, he can't talk to you about it. [38:47.000 --> 38:49.000] He can't say a word to you. [38:49.000 --> 38:54.000] That'll go to tampering with a witness obstruction of justice. [38:54.000 --> 39:00.000] So he's going to go to the people below him and say, what in the heck is going on? [39:00.000 --> 39:08.000] Why have I got this guy trying to get me indicted because of some crap only you guys pulled? [39:08.000 --> 39:12.000] It's all politics. [39:12.000 --> 39:13.000] Absolutely that. [39:13.000 --> 39:20.000] Now, that may not be right, but I assure you that is exactly how it is. [39:20.000 --> 39:25.000] So I would suggest you do that first. [39:25.000 --> 39:27.000] And what will happen when you do that? [39:27.000 --> 39:35.000] The prosecutors will say, that SOB, he set me up. [39:35.000 --> 39:37.000] He did that on purpose. [39:37.000 --> 39:38.000] He did exactly what I was going to do. [39:38.000 --> 39:43.000] And he did that so he could kick me in my political teeth. [39:43.000 --> 39:46.000] That's when they don't want to mess with you anymore. [39:46.000 --> 39:50.000] I just got a call from a guy named Doug Bell. [39:50.000 --> 39:53.000] I couldn't take the call because it was on the show. [39:53.000 --> 40:03.000] But I once went into Williamson County and didn't tell anybody who it was and looked through his records. [40:03.000 --> 40:07.000] And went and sat in the courtroom. [40:07.000 --> 40:11.000] And when they come and asked me if I had business in the courtroom, I told them to get lost. [40:11.000 --> 40:13.000] I told them that I wouldn't talk to them. [40:13.000 --> 40:16.000] I just terrified them. [40:16.000 --> 40:23.000] And they dismissed both of his charges, took him to the court, got a written order, took him back to the clerk, [40:23.000 --> 40:30.000] and got her to promise to send his bond back, and he got his bond back the next day. [40:30.000 --> 40:32.000] You got to make him afraid of you. [40:32.000 --> 40:34.000] And this is how you do it. [40:34.000 --> 40:37.000] Okay, I'll talk long enough. [40:37.000 --> 40:42.000] Okay, Joshua, does that make sense to you? [40:42.000 --> 40:45.000] I said, does that make sense to you? [40:45.000 --> 40:49.000] Is it giving you an idea of a direction to take? [40:49.000 --> 40:51.000] Absolutely. [40:51.000 --> 40:54.000] But you kind of left off with the Supreme Court justice. [40:54.000 --> 41:01.000] The step above him would be, and if I don't find resolution with that, then the step above him would be the... [41:01.000 --> 41:04.000] There is no step above him. [41:04.000 --> 41:14.000] Is a local magistrate, I would prefer a justice of the peace, the lowest level person you can find. [41:14.000 --> 41:21.000] You go to a local JP with a criminal complaint against the Chief Justice. [41:21.000 --> 41:25.000] He's going to get apoplexy. [41:25.000 --> 41:34.000] And he's going to call the District Attorney and the Prosecuting Attorney and say, what is going on here? [41:34.000 --> 41:42.000] I got a guy down here trying to get me to issue a warrant for the arrest of the Chief Justice, [41:42.000 --> 41:48.000] because the Chief Justice wouldn't issue a warrant for your arrest. [41:48.000 --> 41:53.000] You want to tell me what's going on? [41:53.000 --> 41:56.000] It's all about politics. [41:56.000 --> 42:00.000] The Chief Justice... [42:00.000 --> 42:04.000] Okay, we'll give to the grand jury. [42:04.000 --> 42:12.000] But you want to go to the grand jury with complaints against the District Attorney [42:12.000 --> 42:24.000] building the Chief Justice from prosecution because he wouldn't pursue prosecution of the District Attorney. [42:24.000 --> 42:27.000] You want it to look really, really bad. [42:27.000 --> 42:33.000] You want it to look as bad as it really is. [42:33.000 --> 42:39.000] Now, they can railroad an ordinary citizen [42:39.000 --> 42:44.000] and just tell the grand jury, well, he's a dirty rotten scoundrel. [42:44.000 --> 42:46.000] Now you turn it around on them. [42:46.000 --> 42:54.000] You drag them into court and set them up so that you don't care about the Chief Justice. [42:54.000 --> 42:58.000] You definitely don't want to get him indicted or anything like that. [42:58.000 --> 43:02.000] What you want is him annoyed. [43:02.000 --> 43:08.000] It's him wondering, what's going to happen when I run for election again? [43:08.000 --> 43:12.000] Is my opponent going to pull this nonsense out [43:12.000 --> 43:18.000] and wave it in front of my constituents and get me kicked out of office? [43:18.000 --> 43:20.000] You don't care if it is bad. [43:20.000 --> 43:23.000] You want it to look bad. [43:23.000 --> 43:31.000] Ken's third rule, perception is everything. [43:31.000 --> 43:36.000] So you as a sovereign, you can create this kind of pressure against it. [43:36.000 --> 43:40.000] I'm sorry, we took longer than I meant to, but this was a good subject. [43:40.000 --> 43:42.000] Joshua, we're picking up on the other side. [43:42.000 --> 43:45.000] We're trying to finish up with you because the calls are stacking up. [43:45.000 --> 43:47.000] They've been waiting a long time. 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[45:18.000 --> 45:23.000] The FBI and federal prosecutors insist that Tim McVeigh alone delivered the writer truck bomb [45:23.000 --> 45:25.000] to the Murra Building and detonated it. [45:25.000 --> 45:29.000] The only witness the government produced to place McVeigh at the building that morning, [45:29.000 --> 45:33.000] Dana Bradley, who lost her children and one of her legs in the bombing, [45:33.000 --> 45:38.000] testified that she saw McVeigh with another man, the faithful John Doe number two, [45:38.000 --> 45:40.000] exiting the writer truck. [45:40.000 --> 45:44.000] While at least 15 other witnesses claim to have seen McVeigh with other perpetrators [45:44.000 --> 45:50.000] before the bombing, no less than 226 witnesses placed him with other men in the days [45:50.000 --> 45:53.000] before the bombing, including when he rented the writer truck, [45:53.000 --> 45:57.000] and in some cases have positively identified the other perpetrators. [45:57.000 --> 46:23.000] For more information, please visit okcbombingtruth.com. [46:23.000 --> 46:30.000] Thank you for watching. [46:53.000 --> 47:05.000] Okay, we're back. [47:05.000 --> 47:08.000] Randy Kelton got the same day to play through the radio, [47:08.000 --> 47:10.000] and I know I spent a lot of time with Joshua, [47:10.000 --> 47:15.000] but when we started, I indicated that I wanted to talk about the process, [47:15.000 --> 47:25.000] and this is where I really wanted to go, the politics, not the specific details [47:25.000 --> 47:31.000] that do process so much, but understand the politics. [47:31.000 --> 47:40.000] The politics around us has changed so that the pressure is really on these public officials. [47:40.000 --> 47:46.000] I once got all the highest judges in Texas put in front of a grand jury, [47:46.000 --> 47:49.000] but it wasn't me. [47:49.000 --> 47:55.000] It just happened that the district attorney was a 25-year prosecutor, [47:55.000 --> 47:58.000] and he wasn't going to run for office again. [47:58.000 --> 48:01.000] He was a Democrat. [48:01.000 --> 48:07.000] All 15 of these justices of the Court of Criminal Appeals were all Republicans. [48:07.000 --> 48:13.000] They gave a political enemy, cannon fodder, to use against them. [48:13.000 --> 48:16.000] That's what we can do. [48:16.000 --> 48:26.000] As singular individual sovereigns, we can give these high-level officials their enemies' [48:26.000 --> 48:30.000] political cannon fodder to use against them. [48:30.000 --> 48:38.000] Even if nobody picks it up, it will terrify these guys. This is crabs in a bucket. [48:38.000 --> 48:43.000] When one crab crawls out of the bucket, all the rest of them try to pull it back down. [48:43.000 --> 48:53.000] Every official in a position of power knows that everybody below him wants his position. [48:53.000 --> 48:59.000] So the higher up you go, the more sensitive they are to negative feedback. [48:59.000 --> 49:03.000] So let's give them some. [49:03.000 --> 49:05.000] I watch for this. [49:05.000 --> 49:15.000] If I take on a jurisdiction, I look for a bailiff who will give me a hard time. [49:15.000 --> 49:21.000] There's always one with a mouth and an attitude, so I tend to cultivate it. [49:21.000 --> 49:27.000] Then I'll go hammer a judge and then get this bailiff to give me some crapola, [49:27.000 --> 49:31.000] then I accuse the judge of sending the bailiff after me to retaliate against me, [49:31.000 --> 49:41.000] and the judge is going to have a hernia because the one who screams the loudest is the one who's innocent. [49:41.000 --> 49:43.000] He didn't have anything to do with it. [49:43.000 --> 49:48.000] Once you get that high-level judge crawling down one of these officers' throat, [49:48.000 --> 49:53.000] you're not going to have to worry about any retaliation from any of them. [49:53.000 --> 50:01.000] Okay, with that said, Joshua, do we have any other questions or comments or issues to handle with you? [50:01.000 --> 50:02.000] Just brief questions. [50:02.000 --> 50:09.000] Well, when will the recording be on the website so I can make sure I have all my notes and all my processes in order? [50:09.000 --> 50:11.000] That should be up tomorrow. [50:11.000 --> 50:13.000] Okay, excellent. [50:13.000 --> 50:18.000] Randy, I just wanted to say thank you and thank you to everybody on your team for being there for people like me. [50:18.000 --> 50:23.000] And I mean, I said it to you once before and I'll say it again, I lost faith in the system. [50:23.000 --> 50:25.000] I lost faith in this country. [50:25.000 --> 50:27.000] Ignorance is not bliss. [50:27.000 --> 50:29.000] It's time for something to be done about this. [50:29.000 --> 50:36.000] And without people like you, the rest of us people that were railroaded would just take it and continue on with our lives. [50:36.000 --> 50:38.000] And I'm not willing to do that. [50:38.000 --> 50:40.000] So again, thank you very much for your time. [50:40.000 --> 50:49.000] And I hope that continue on to figuring better things so more people can know about you because I found out about you after my case. [50:49.000 --> 50:51.000] Okay, well, wonderful. [50:51.000 --> 50:54.000] The more people that know, the more power we'll have. [50:54.000 --> 50:55.000] Thank you, Joshua. [50:55.000 --> 50:59.000] Now we're going to go to Stephen in Pennsylvania. [50:59.000 --> 51:03.000] Let's all have a round of applause for beer Randy, though. [51:03.000 --> 51:06.000] He's doing good. [51:06.000 --> 51:15.000] Please be your fund. I did have to migrate from the barley to the root, but even the carbonation is getting to me. [51:15.000 --> 51:18.000] It's what happens when you get old. [51:18.000 --> 51:20.000] Gentlemen, good evening. [51:20.000 --> 51:23.000] Okay, go ahead, Stephen. [51:23.000 --> 51:27.000] I have some general questions and some specific questions. [51:27.000 --> 51:31.000] The gentleman who was just on, he said he's a US citizen. [51:31.000 --> 51:35.000] Can you be a US citizen and a sovereign? [51:35.000 --> 51:39.000] That's an interesting question. What does that? [51:39.000 --> 51:41.000] No, can't be. [51:41.000 --> 51:42.000] Right. [51:42.000 --> 51:46.000] So he's bragging about being a US citizen, going into their venue. [51:46.000 --> 51:49.000] Well, no, he's just operating under misconception. [51:49.000 --> 51:52.000] It's not much to brag about it. [51:52.000 --> 51:54.000] Wait a minute, wait a minute. [51:54.000 --> 51:56.000] He's deceived. [51:56.000 --> 52:01.000] Okay, you guys are talking about some esoteric stuff. [52:01.000 --> 52:09.000] I can be a US citizen and be a Texas sovereign. [52:09.000 --> 52:11.000] I'm not sovereign in the US. [52:11.000 --> 52:14.000] I'm sovereign in the state of Texas. [52:14.000 --> 52:16.000] That's a misnomer, Randy. [52:16.000 --> 52:18.000] You cannot be a US citizen. [52:18.000 --> 52:22.000] You could be an American citizen, but you cannot be a US citizen. [52:22.000 --> 52:30.000] Even the Supreme Court has ruled that there is no such thing as a US citizen. [52:30.000 --> 52:33.000] There were no citizens created at the federal level. [52:33.000 --> 52:39.000] There can't be unless the slaves of the state would be called as such [52:39.000 --> 52:42.000] upon the implementation of the 14th Amendment. [52:42.000 --> 52:46.000] That's directly out of the federal court case. [52:46.000 --> 52:49.000] But the US has no citizens. [52:49.000 --> 52:53.000] This argument always makes nuts. [52:53.000 --> 52:54.000] Can I interrupt you? [52:54.000 --> 52:56.000] There's a couple things that I want to discuss, [52:56.000 --> 52:59.000] and you guys can battle that out later, okay? [52:59.000 --> 53:00.000] Good. [53:00.000 --> 53:03.000] There's a lot of time here. [53:03.000 --> 53:11.000] Okay, one of the general things was, I was listening to another show, [53:11.000 --> 53:14.000] and they said, if you find a property that's abandoned, [53:14.000 --> 53:17.000] you can go to the people that own that property. [53:17.000 --> 53:21.000] If they write off on you that you could have that property, [53:21.000 --> 53:23.000] you could have it for free. [53:23.000 --> 53:25.000] Yes. [53:25.000 --> 53:29.000] If I want to give you my car, I can give you my car. [53:29.000 --> 53:31.000] If I want to give you my property, I can give you my property. [53:31.000 --> 53:33.000] Okay. [53:33.000 --> 53:36.000] That's associated with another topic. [53:36.000 --> 53:38.000] They said the acceptance of the deed. [53:38.000 --> 53:41.000] You go into the courthouse. [53:41.000 --> 53:44.000] I don't really understand exactly what it's about, [53:44.000 --> 53:47.000] but you accept the deed. [53:47.000 --> 53:55.000] I heard them talking about this in the person at the recorders office. [53:55.000 --> 53:59.000] They said, well, I've been waiting for years for somebody to accept these deeds. [53:59.000 --> 54:05.000] Lawyers do the transfer, but nobody ever called it an acceptance. [54:05.000 --> 54:09.000] As soon as you accept the deed, it comes off the property records, [54:09.000 --> 54:12.000] and they can't charge taxes on it anymore. [54:12.000 --> 54:15.000] Okay, I have heard this stuff, [54:15.000 --> 54:19.000] but this is a lot of the other patriot things [54:19.000 --> 54:23.000] where somebody comes out and says this stuff, [54:23.000 --> 54:28.000] and I would say about that exactly what I said to Winston Strout [54:28.000 --> 54:32.000] when I was on his show, and he talked about what he did. [54:32.000 --> 54:37.000] And I said, well, Winston, you know, that's all very interesting, [54:37.000 --> 54:40.000] but I am a creature of statute. [54:40.000 --> 54:45.000] And I need issues in such a way [54:45.000 --> 54:49.000] that if someone raises a question [54:49.000 --> 54:54.000] or wants to adjudicate by position, [54:54.000 --> 54:58.000] I need to be able to come to the court [54:58.000 --> 55:03.000] and give them chapter and verse. [55:03.000 --> 55:09.000] So where is the basis for what you're doing? [55:09.000 --> 55:14.000] And he said, well, it's just there. [55:14.000 --> 55:16.000] I said, where did you get it? [55:16.000 --> 55:20.000] He said, well, I figured it out. [55:20.000 --> 55:26.000] Oh, so essentially what you're saying is you made it up. [55:26.000 --> 55:32.000] And to Winston's credit, he paused a little bit, [55:32.000 --> 55:35.000] and he said, well, as a matter of fact, I did. [55:35.000 --> 55:39.000] I said, well, I appreciate that, Winston, but I can't go into court [55:39.000 --> 55:41.000] without making it up. [55:41.000 --> 55:43.000] I need chapter and verse. [55:43.000 --> 55:47.000] And I've heard this talk about acceptance of the deed, [55:47.000 --> 55:53.000] but I have never seen anything concerning acceptance of the deed [55:53.000 --> 55:56.000] other than someone's proclamation. [55:56.000 --> 55:59.000] If you have something on that, I would love it. [55:59.000 --> 56:02.000] Okay, let me ask you another question. [56:02.000 --> 56:07.000] Regarding the mortgages, how they float these mortgages [56:07.000 --> 56:11.000] and they sell the mortgages over and over and over again. [56:11.000 --> 56:13.000] Okay, stop, stop, stop. [56:13.000 --> 56:17.000] That is a presupposition. [56:17.000 --> 56:20.000] They don't sell the mortgage. [56:20.000 --> 56:25.000] The mortgage is the claim against the property. [56:25.000 --> 56:31.000] They transfer the mortgage from one servicer to another. [56:31.000 --> 56:36.000] That servicer is just a contractor for the holder. [56:36.000 --> 56:41.000] He doesn't necessarily have any ownership in the mortgage at all. [56:41.000 --> 56:50.000] It is the security that is using the note as collateral [56:50.000 --> 56:52.000] that they sell back and forth. [56:52.000 --> 56:55.000] And I'm not trying to be nitpicking here. [56:55.000 --> 56:57.000] It's important we understand this difference. [56:57.000 --> 57:00.000] It's a negotiable instrument, right? [57:00.000 --> 57:02.000] The security. [57:02.000 --> 57:04.000] The security is. [57:04.000 --> 57:05.000] Okay. [57:05.000 --> 57:08.000] But there's been a common misconception. [57:08.000 --> 57:12.000] People are thinking they're selling the note back and forth. [57:12.000 --> 57:13.000] No, they're not. [57:13.000 --> 57:16.000] They give the note to the document custodian. [57:16.000 --> 57:21.000] When they create a security using the note as collateral [57:21.000 --> 57:23.000] and they trade the security. [57:23.000 --> 57:28.000] But that goes to the beneficial interest in the note. [57:28.000 --> 57:32.000] So in that regard, they are selling the beneficial interest [57:32.000 --> 57:38.000] in the note, but not the mortgage or the deed of trust. [57:38.000 --> 57:40.000] It would be a mortgage in a judicial state, [57:40.000 --> 57:44.000] a deed of trust in a non-judicial state. [57:44.000 --> 57:50.000] Other than the only difference is in a non-judicial, [57:50.000 --> 57:57.000] the deed of trust grants a confess judgment and a mortgage does not. [57:57.000 --> 57:58.000] Does that make sense? [57:58.000 --> 57:59.000] Yes. [57:59.000 --> 58:03.000] What I'm getting at is not even the mortgage. [58:03.000 --> 58:06.000] I'm getting at annuity. [58:06.000 --> 58:08.000] I need to talk to you guys. [58:08.000 --> 58:11.000] Is there a number where I can reach you? [58:11.000 --> 58:13.000] Yes. [58:13.000 --> 58:17.000] Can you send me an e-mail and I'll give that to you. [58:17.000 --> 58:21.000] This is the top of the hour break, so you've still got a few seconds. [58:21.000 --> 58:30.000] Actually, you can always reach me at 512-430-4140. [58:30.000 --> 58:32.000] 430. [58:32.000 --> 58:38.000] That is a Skype number, but it rolls over to my cell phone. [58:38.000 --> 58:39.000] Okay. [58:39.000 --> 58:40.000] We're about to go to break. 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[01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:23.000] When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:27.000] If privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.000] So protect your rights. [01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:33.000] Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:35.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com, [01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:43.000] the private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo, and Bing. [01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.000] Start over with StartPage. [01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:52.000] Social media can mean a pink slip for employees who've had unflattering snapshots of themselves turn up on the Internet. [01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.000] But what if your livelihood depended on being anonymous? [01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.000] What if you were, say, an undercover agent? [01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:03.000] The Australian police is concerned that social media may be undermining covert operations. [01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:10.000] A survey found that 90% of female officers and 80% of male cops were using Facebook and Twitter. [01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:16.000] All respondents 26 and younger were exposed by uploading their photos to those websites. [01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:23.000] I guess this means aspiring cops need to take a cue from today's politicians and keep their photos off the web. [01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.000] We've all seen movies where the bad guys plan to bug in someone's office. [01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:40.000] But what if the government secretly bugged thousands of innocent people? [01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:45.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht and I'll be back in a moment to tell you where it actually happened. [01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:51.000] Privacy is under attack. When you give up data about yourself, you'll never get it back again. [01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:56.000] And once your privacy is gone, you'll find your freedoms will start to vanish too. [01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:01.000] So protect your rights. Say no to surveillance and keep your information to yourself. [01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.000] Privacy, it's worth hanging on to. [01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.000] This public service announcement is brought to you by StartPage.com. [01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:11.000] The private search engine alternative to Google, Yahoo and Bing. [01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:15.000] Start over with StartPage. [01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:21.000] It's the toll transponder from hell. You know the easy pass people stick on their windshields to pay for tolls? [01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:26.000] Here in the US, they track each time you pass through a toll booth. That's pretty bad. [01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.000] But it's nothing compared to what they did in China. [01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:34.000] According to a Hong Kong newspaper, the Chinese government secretly hid powerful listening devices [01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.000] and the windshield transponders issued to Chinese drivers. [01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:44.000] Experts say the devices could pick up conversations and transmit them miles away to government authorities. [01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:50.000] Thousands of innocent people are believed to have been spied on in this way since 2007. [01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:53.000] Talk about a Trojan horse or a Chinese one. [01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:00.000] I'm Dr. Catherine Albrecht. More news and information at CatherineAlbrecht.com. [01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:10.000] Looking for some truth? You found it. LogosRadioNetwork.com [01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:35.000] Hi folks, we are back. This is Rule of Law Radio. [01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.000] Calling number is 512-646-1984. [01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:44.000] We are in the last hour of our four-hour marathon and we are talking to Stephen in Pennsylvania. [01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000] Alright Stephen, please continue. [01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:54.000] I guess when Randy goes in the court, he's not going to get anywhere as a sovereign. [01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:58.000] He's going to have to go in as a US citizen. They're not even here. [01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.000] Oh wait a minute, hold on, hold on, hold on. You missed something. [01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:14.000] I never, ever mention anything about sovereign or US citizen or any of that stuff. [01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:19.000] I don't go in there and say, yo bubba, I'm here as a sovereign. [01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:23.000] You don't go in there and talk about being a sovereign. You act like a sovereign. [01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000] Right. [01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:34.000] I go in and I bring the court statute. [01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:39.000] So here's the statute. It makes no difference who or what I am. [01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:44.000] These are the statutes that you are to follow and if you don't follow them, [01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:49.000] I'm not going to tell him I'm a sovereign or a US citizen or any of that crap. [01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.000] I'm just going to follow charges against him. [01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:56.000] That sounds good. That's a good strategy what you're doing. [01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:02.000] I heard on a radio show the other day that there's all different types of law. [01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:09.000] The statute law is the lowest realm of law. [01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:16.000] I've heard those things. It sounds like you've been talking to Alasdask again. [01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:22.000] Alasdask makes me crazy and Ralph Winner wrote up there in Alaska. [01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:27.000] Last time I talked to him, he said, oh, the statute, they don't apply. [01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.000] I said, well, what applies, Ralph? What about the Constitution? [01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.000] No, no, no, no, look, the Constitution doesn't apply. [01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.000] I said, well, what applies, Ralph? [01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:39.000] Oh, the national, the public laws, they apply. [01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000] Well, where do I find the public laws? [01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.000] Oh, you find the national registrar. [01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:48.000] That's really nice, Ralph, but it'd be nice if you would be a little more specific about which one. [01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.000] The national registrar is about 45,000 pages. [01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.000] Oh, you just got to go to the national registrar. [01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:57.000] That's a bunch of crap. [01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:04.000] The courts pretend to follow the statutory law. [01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:22.000] Okay, this is the way I see it. The average citizen doesn't know you're in the top one half of one percent. [01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:34.000] The average citizen doesn't have the knowledge that you have in the Alaska and a bunch of other really bright guys, the Winnerud. [01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:38.000] But 99% of us are out there. [01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:42.000] And I'm part of the 99%. [01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.000] I'm not part of the 1%. [01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:54.000] And I'm part of, I have the evil concept that I don't want to go into their courts. [01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.000] I don't want to give them jurisdiction. [01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:04.000] I want to knock it right out so they know that I am a solver. [01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:10.000] How are you going to do that? [01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.000] That's the question. [01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:17.000] Okay, here's the answer. [01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:27.000] If you are in the public, you're not going to knock it right out because you're dealing in that realm. [01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000] You're in the private forum. [01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.000] I don't want to go into their forum. I don't want to enter into their forum. [01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.000] I want to challenge your jurisdiction right from the beginning. [01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:41.000] Is that the strategy? [01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:51.000] Well, there's a lot of guys that want to do that, but they have to do a bunch of jurisdictional gymnastics to try to get there. [01:07:51.000 --> 01:08:03.000] They want to take advantage of the structure that they live in and at the same time hold themselves aloof and separate from it. [01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.000] I don't know how you can do that. [01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:22.000] The problem is that all these state judges, courts, general US, when are people going to get these people back and kick their ass back into the box where they belong? [01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:25.000] This is what we're here for. [01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:35.000] We're careful about not getting caught in some type of philosophy. [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.000] I'm an engineer. [01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:43.000] I don't care what the law really is. [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:50.000] I care about the law that these guys I'm dealing with pretends to follow. [01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:55.000] If they pretend to follow a particular law, that'll work for me. [01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.000] Do you want to pretend to follow the statutes? [01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:00.000] That'll work for me. I can do that. [01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.000] You don't want to talk about Constitution? [01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.000] No problem. [01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:10.000] Everything that's in the Constitution is reflected in the statutory law. [01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:22.000] Frankly, when I look at the statutory law, that the corpus durus, the whole body of law, I don't have a problem with it. [01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.000] It's very well structured. [01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.000] It has all the protections that I need. [01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:35.000] If the court wants to pretend that the statutory law applies, that'll work for me. I can deal in that area. [01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.000] Yes, you're just going to specialize in that area. [01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.000] You find to... [01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:45.000] No, it's not that I'm specialized in that area. [01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:54.000] I looked around at what was going on, and I'm not interested in some esoteric philosophy. [01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.000] I'm interested in outcomes. [01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.000] What would lead me to the outcome? [01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:09.000] Arguing about citizenship, U.S. citizen, American citizen, I don't care about that. [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:19.000] What I'm a little bit concerned of is when you're a U.S. citizen, you're imposed certain rules. [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:25.000] With the... I got an email a couple weeks ago. [01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:38.000] It was about hidden in page 1,000 of the Obama healthcare plan that everybody gets microchipped by the third month of 2013. [01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:41.000] Everybody has to get the microchip. [01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000] What do you think about that? [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:52.000] I don't think it's going to happen because they have Catherine Albrecht to deal with. [01:10:52.000 --> 01:11:00.000] When they put microchips in pets, pets tend to get horrendous cancers right around the microchips. [01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.000] People are not going to elect it. This is not going to happen. [01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:12.000] The Obamacare crap has already been rendered unconstitutional. It's already dead. [01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000] Oh, that's good to know. A little bit less. [01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:26.000] We have... you will always have politicians pressing the edge of the envelope. [01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:31.000] And frankly, I think that's how it should be. [01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:43.000] And you'll always have us fighting to push them back so that when change does occur, it has to run this gauntlet. [01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:48.000] We can't just come up with this bright idea and impose it on everyone. [01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:55.000] You've got all these hurdles to get through. Only the best ones will get through. [01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:04.000] So we're always going to have this turmoil, this push and pull, the draconian versus the oversimplistic. [01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:13.000] It's always going to be there. It always has been this way. It always will be this way. It's okay. [01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:19.000] I deal with it. I'm a realist and I'm an engineer. [01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.000] I'm not concerned about how things ought to be. [01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:30.000] I'm concerned about how they actually work right now. [01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.000] How can I achieve remedy within this structure? [01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.000] And once I can do that, then we'll try to make changes. [01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:45.000] And we have some changes we're trying to propose, but they're not high-level changes. [01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:50.000] They're structural basic changes. [01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000] If the best ones are so subtle, nobody sees them coming. [01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:06.000] We will be drafting and proposing legislation that would require grand juries to meet at least once a month to hear complaints from private citizens. [01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000] It doesn't sound like much. [01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:19.000] I mean, they're going to meet anyway and it doesn't in any way interfere with the duties of the grand jury. [01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:24.000] But it will change everything. [01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:33.000] Every public official in the country would have to look at the prospect of explaining his behavior to a grand jury of my peers and not his peers. [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:42.000] So these are, if we're going to change things, we have to look real careful and make sure our change is not draconian. [01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:54.000] Make sure we don't try to fix something that's not broken and try to be real careful that fixing the Institute doesn't create more problems than we had to start with. [01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:00.000] So until then, I'll take statutory law and use it. [01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.000] Does that make sense, Steve? [01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:06.000] Yes. Randy, are you from Dallas? [01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:13.000] Yes, but actually, Northwest to Fort Worth is about 35 miles. [01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:17.000] Let me ask you this question, a theoretical question. [01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:35.000] You have, let's say, an annuity and you sell half of your annuity to a company and on the document you put a reservation of rights with your signature. [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:45.000] And then you're responsible to forward any monies that come in representing that 50% of that annuity to them. [01:14:45.000 --> 01:15:04.000] And let's say you do that for years and years and the credit union that you're putting the checks into has a problem and two of the payments don't go to that company that bought your 50% of your annuity. [01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:11.000] And they sue you in court for breach of promise or breach of contract. [01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:21.000] Okay, hold on. You're using pronouns and I'm getting lost in the pronouns. They sue you. The company that was supposed to receive the checks? [01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:46.000] Yes, the company that was supposed to receive the check that did not receive it, started court action. But when they send you the documents, your signature and your reservation of rights was all tampered with and whiteed out. [01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:49.000] That's tampering with the government document. [01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:57.000] I just swore that that bogus document, the altered document, was the true and original document. [01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:01.000] Take that to the district attorney. [01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:02.000] Okay. [01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:08.000] What is it, Eddie? It's a 3801? [01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:24.000] The statute for simulating the legal process, the 3710 is tampered with the government document, but there's another one that they passed for the Republic of Texas to stop them from filing these documents in the court record. [01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.000] Do you remember what that was, Eddie? [01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.000] That's 59 of the government code, isn't it? [01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.000] No, this was a penal code. It's felony code. [01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:33.000] Right. [01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:38.000] But anyway, take that to the district attorney. [01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000] Okay. [01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.000] Gentlemen, I'm going to give you a call at your phone number. [01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:53.000] Okay, thank you. We're about to go to break and when we come back, we'll go to Jeff in Mississippi. This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig with our radio. [01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000] Thank you for calling, Steve. [01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.000] Thank you. [01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:01.000] We'll be right back on the other side. 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[01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:20.520] Yes you are. [01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.520] Okay, well it's great to talk to everyone. [01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:26.520] I just talked to you guys about two or three weeks ago. [01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:33.520] I'm the fellow with the possession of a weapon on the campus of Mississippi State University. [01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.520] Yes, I remember that one. [01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:42.520] You were the only kind of sorter on the campus. [01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:47.520] Yes, there are apartment buildings that are a block away from campus. [01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:54.520] I actually got invited to do. [01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:55.520] Are you there, Jess? [01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:56.520] Yes. [01:20:56.520 --> 01:20:59.520] Okay, sounded like we got a little interference there. [01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.520] Okay, go ahead. [01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.520] Okay, court is coming up very quick. [01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:09.520] So I've got a list of questions and I'm not going to take up too much time. [01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:14.520] The first what I want to do address was Steve that had just come on [01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:17.520] and he was talking about the challenge of jurisdiction. [01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.520] Well, this is my second court appearance. [01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:24.520] I hung the jury the first time and they're going to retry me. [01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:29.520] So this is number two, but on number one, I walked into that courtroom [01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:35.520] and as soon as the prosecutor opened his mouth I said objection perjury [01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.520] and then I immediately said to the judge that I formally had challenged [01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.520] the jurisdiction of this court and this court cannot move forward. [01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:48.520] And I commenced to object to him about 30 or 40 times, [01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:53.520] refusing to allow the court to move forward on a jurisdictional challenge [01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:58.520] and he slapped the cuffs on me and took me to jail for three days for contempt. [01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:03.520] So that's where my challenging of the jurisdiction got me. [01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:06.520] Well, you have to be careful with that. [01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:12.520] Once you've made the challenge, the challenge is before the court, [01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:17.520] then you can move on to adjudicate other issues [01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:21.520] and that challenge never goes away. [01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:23.520] Okay. [01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:28.520] So don't go to jail for over this next time. [01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:34.520] Once you've made your objection and it's in, the judge is overruled, [01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:40.520] then you might tell the court to let the record reflect [01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:44.520] defendants' exception to the ruling. [01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:45.520] Okay. [01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:49.520] And that tells them that you're preserving the objection for appeal [01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:51.520] and that's all you need to do. [01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.520] I like that, okay. [01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.520] And then you can move on. [01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:58.520] I had a judge tell me I didn't have to do that. [01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:07.520] I said, well, your honor, then will it be presumed that every issue I object to [01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:12.520] and have overruled that I take exception to it? [01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.520] And he said, yes, Mr. Kelkin, it will. [01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:17.520] So I didn't have to do that anymore. [01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:18.520] Okay. [01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:26.520] And all you're doing is perfecting the case for the appeal. [01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.520] So absolutely do not go to jail this time over there. [01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:32.520] Hopefully not. [01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:35.520] You know, coming up this second time, they're watching me, [01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.520] and I've got the feeling they're going to try and get me in contempt [01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:41.520] a lot quicker than they did the first time. [01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:45.520] Yeah, well, always be real pleasant to the judge. [01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:50.520] Object all you want to, and when he overrules, [01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:54.520] ask the court to directly reflect your exception to the ruling. [01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:57.520] And if he complains about that, your honor, [01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:02.520] I'm just attempting to preserve all of the errors for appeal. [01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:09.520] If the court will stipulate to my exception to all adverse rulings, [01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:13.520] then I won't waste the court's time with them. [01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:17.520] Okay, and that'll keep me from getting a contempt. [01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:18.520] Exactly. [01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:19.520] Oh, that's wonderful. [01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:20.520] Okay. [01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:26.520] And it'll keep the jury from getting a bad vibe about you. [01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:32.520] Okay. [01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:38.520] The second question, the reason that I hung the jury in the first place [01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:43.520] is because on my indictment, it said that I willfully and feloniously had the rifle. [01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:49.520] However, they had been continuing court for two days on just the premise [01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.520] that I possessed it, and that was the bottom line. [01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.520] But once I raised the issue about what is felonious, [01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.520] then the jury went crazy and said, [01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:01.520] well, we don't know what felonious is either, so we're split. [01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:09.520] So myself and some intelligent friends that I have have immediately come to me [01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:12.520] and said, you know what, that prosecutor's going to load that jury. [01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:14.520] He's going to start paying people off. [01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:18.520] How do you feel about that? [01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:23.520] Well, I don't see how he can do that effectively, [01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:29.520] and that's really dangerous territory. [01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:30.520] Okay. [01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.520] And, you know, I hear these accusations, [01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:40.520] but I don't think the prosecutor is going to feel he needs to load the jury. [01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:47.520] He's going to feel like he can, he will be ready for this particular argument this time. [01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:50.520] It's all, he won't need to load the jury. [01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:51.520] Okay. [01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:53.520] Can you foresee that? [01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:54.520] Or I mean to... [01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:58.520] Well, I would have to think about, you know, I have to do some research. [01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:04.520] Have you researched out the felonious, what that means? [01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:05.520] Yes. [01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:07.520] In the court. [01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:08.520] Okay. [01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:12.520] So that's all you need is, you know, all you need is a question. [01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:17.520] And your primary issue is that you have no idea. [01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:22.520] And in order for you to be criminally culpable, [01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:27.520] you had to intend the result of your action. [01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:36.520] And this would appear as though simply bringing the weapon would intend the result of your action. [01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:44.520] But if what you were doing would be a normal thing to do in ordinary circumstances, [01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:52.520] then you would have to be aware that this normal behavior was not acceptable in this particular circumstance. [01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:53.520] Yes. [01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:57.520] In order for it to be felonious. [01:26:57.520 --> 01:26:58.520] Okay. [01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:07.520] So, now I really don't know, okay, I'm not sure I understand what you're asking now. [01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:15.520] Well, what I was asking for you is if we were the prosecutor and we knew that these terms [01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:19.520] were what tripped us up the first time, felonious and willful intent, [01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:26.520] how would we surgically construe our next trial to get around that and win the case? [01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:27.520] Okay. [01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:31.520] Okay, you're going to have to look at culpability real close. [01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:32.520] Got it. [01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:37.520] What constitutes criminal culpability? [01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:51.520] Criminal culpability is about the same everywhere is that you intended the result of an action and the action was felonious [01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:57.520] or was criminal by statute. [01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:08.520] Now, but there is mitigation of that, that's why you really need to pull annotated statutes and they'll contain all the case law [01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:19.520] that stipulates what makes a act criminal and crimes are always thought crimes. [01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:28.520] There are heads and people complaining about the legislature trying to pass thought crimes, all crimes are thought crimes. [01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:33.520] It's how you held your mind when you perpetrated the act. [01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:46.520] I once punched a woman upside the head as hard as I could and it was my absolute intent to knock her smooth out. [01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:50.520] What's that a crime? [01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.520] Sounds like it. [01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:54.520] Pardon me? [01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:56.520] It sounds like it. [01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:57.520] Sounds like it. [01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:58.520] Sounds like it. [01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:03.520] Well, we were about a quarter mile out in Lake Michigan. [01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.520] She was drowning. [01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:08.520] I'm trying to pull her in the third time she drugged me under. [01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:13.520] When I got some air, I did everything I could to knock her smooth out. [01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:18.520] I didn't quite get her knocked out, but she quit fighting me and let me pull her in. [01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:21.520] I see that, okay. [01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:25.520] It's about how you hold your mind. [01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:37.520] And if you had no intent of doing anything illegal, if what you were doing in ordinary circumstances would be normal acceptable practice [01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:42.520] and you had no awareness that you were on the campus. [01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:44.520] These are all ambiguous issues. [01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:48.520] You had to act with intent and you could show no intent. [01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:49.520] Okay. [01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:50.520] Okay. [01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:54.520] This is Randy Count and Dr. Steven Z. Craig with Law Radio. [01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:58.520] I call in number 5126461984. [01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:00.520] We'll be right back. [01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:07.520] A noble lie at Oklahoma City 1995 will change forever the way you look at the true nature of terrorism. 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[01:32:53.520 --> 01:33:00.520] I looked up in the model penal code that these crimes have to have intent and felonious. [01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:05.520] But what I'm worried is if I say that in court, the judge is going to turn right around and say, [01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:11.520] oh, well, we use a different book. [01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:17.520] Wow, that's going to go to the jury. [01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:26.520] And it goes to intent and you can say to the jury, so, well, you honor, uh, did the fact that you're using these different books, [01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:37.520] have they been publicly advertised so that, you know, if someone in the courtroom here or someone in the jury box did one of these things [01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:43.520] that had no idea it was criminal, something that would normally not be criminal, [01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:48.520] how would they know that you use this different book? [01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:51.520] Okay. [01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:54.520] Okay, next one. [01:33:54.520 --> 01:34:04.520] Last question, and that is the first time I went to court, they had already passed the statute of limitations for prosecuting me by three months. [01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:14.520] And I jumped up and said, okay, then, second prosecution gets a pleading. [01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:26.520] Pleading three, uh, no subject matter jurisdiction, double jeopardy, statute of limitations. [01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:32.520] Okay, can you dismiss statute of limitations to hold a prosecute? [01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:34.520] Okay. [01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.520] Could you just say that one more time, because I was talking. [01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:40.520] Okay, this is a pleading. [01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:45.520] There are pleadings in motions. There are only, generally there are only three pleadings. [01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:55.520] The pleading is subject matter jurisdiction, double jeopardy, statute of limitations. [01:34:55.520 --> 01:35:03.520] This is latches that this case is too old to prosecute. They took too long to prosecute the first time. [01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:06.520] They didn't have time to prosecute it again. [01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:08.520] Okay. [01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:16.520] Okay, Randy, thank you. I'll call you next week, because my trial is next week, so I'll call you next Friday and I'll see you guys then. Thank you. [01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:18.520] Okie doke. Thank you. [01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:23.520] Now we're going to go to Doug in Texas. [01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:26.520] Doug, what do you have for us? [01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:36.520] Yeah, I'd like to know what B. A. R. Stinkins score, the bar association. [01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:51.520] I don't know. I think it stands for that barrier behind the lawyers between the lawyers where the litigants sit and where the gallery sits. [01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.520] Beer and retard. [01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:58.520] Do what, Eddie? [01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:01.520] I said beer and retard. [01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.520] Depending upon what part of the country you're in. [01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:17.520] Eddie, I've been like 20 minutes talking to a guy from Treeport, Texas, Tommy Crier, and he... [01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:22.520] No, Tommy, he and I had last together before. [01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:29.520] It's not an acronym. It doesn't start with British and end with... [01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:36.520] Yeah, that's down at British crap. That's a bunch of nonsense, and people just made that up. [01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:41.520] I have never, ever found anything to support that. [01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:44.520] What do you think it is, Randy? [01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:51.520] I think it's the barrier between the gallery and where the litigants sit. That's the bar. [01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:56.520] You only cross the bar if you have business with the court. [01:36:56.520 --> 01:37:03.520] In simple terms, look at who we're dealing with, Doug. Bar stands for best row. [01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:07.520] It stands for what? [01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:09.520] Eddie, come here. [01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:14.520] Listen to the hard card. You'll get it. [01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:21.520] There's people saying this. It has a British, I forget what it was, but it's nonsense. [01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:25.520] British accreditation registry is what law people say. [01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:30.520] There's nothing in law that I have ever seen to support any of that. [01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:38.520] The court in court regularly calls that little barrier between the gallery and the litigants to the bar. [01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:45.520] Once you cross the bar, you step into the court. You step outside the bar and you're back in the gallery. [01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:50.520] I don't know that it has any more meaning than that. [01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:57.520] These are people doing patriot mythology crap. [01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:10.520] Half the time I think it's the government putting out this misinformation to give people things to jump up and down and wave their arms about that don't mean anything. [01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:32.520] They name it the school of association or the party of association or anything else, but it is Yale or historic British dance with registration. [01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:39.520] I don't know that that means anything. I'm having a terrible time understanding, Doug. [01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:55.520] I'd just like somebody to admit that it's a British advocacy registry. [01:38:55.520 --> 01:39:02.520] I don't know about that, but do you have any other issues because we've got a lot of callers who run out of time? [01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.520] No, that's the thing. [01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:15.520] Okay, thank you. If it means British accreditation registry, I've never seen anything in American law to support that. [01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:20.520] It may mean that in England, but we're not in England. [01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:35.520] And I know David Lewis, he had a bar number and he put it on some of his documents and the lawyers on the other side complained about it because he wasn't an attorney and they said that wasn't a real bar number. [01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:40.520] And David Lewis said, sure it is. Just call it. You'll see. [01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:42.520] It's my favorite bar. [01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:46.520] So I don't know that has any more meaning than that. [01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:52.520] Okay, thank you, Doug. We're going to go to Danny in Texas. [01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.520] If I can get him unmuted. [01:39:55.520 --> 01:40:01.520] The problem with Danny is once you get him unmuted, he stays unmuted forever. [01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:04.520] Well, hello Danny. [01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:06.520] Hey, how you doing? [01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:08.520] I'm doing good. It's nice to hear from you. [01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:17.520] This is kind of short. Describe the situation here. Talk to you about some of it before, I think, but helping a guy in one of the counties down here. [01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:26.520] Get some things that get some local officials. We got a civil rights lawsuit in federal court right now. [01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:31.520] And part of what we were doing along the way to get our things. [01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:47.520] We got a court orders record to put in with it and have done that but been tampered with that didn't put down accurately what was there. [01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:51.520] We've got people that were in court to make affidavits. [01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:56.520] And basically it's come down to an objection that was raised about an exhibit that was being put in. [01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:06.520] And not only does it not show an objection was raised, it's not the same. [01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:10.520] Wait, we are losing you. [01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:11.520] Okay. [01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:12.520] You're still there? [01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:13.520] Yeah. [01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:16.520] Okay, that's better. [01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:19.520] Okay, what'd you last hear? [01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:24.520] Okay, you were talking about the objection. [01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:28.520] The record didn't show the objection had been raised. [01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:35.520] Yeah, they show it has not been objected to. Also, it's not the document that they were put in. [01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:44.520] So she's, you know, for certified that along with the exhibit that was the thing at all that they were putting in. [01:41:44.520 --> 01:41:48.520] Plus, what's going to put this, you know, for federal court? [01:41:48.520 --> 01:42:00.520] Well, the other side is they were using this exhibit in theirs. And it just seems to me that since they knew that this was being put together to go to federal court, [01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:06.520] and they allowed it to go to federal court, that there's been a federal crime committed. [01:42:06.520 --> 01:42:09.520] But who do I report that to, to have them go? [01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:14.520] Okay, we went, how do you get that to a crime? [01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:20.520] Well, they subverting proceedings in a federal court. [01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:26.520] What? No, I'm not, okay. I missed what the objection was, what the exhibit was. [01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:31.520] The objection is tampering with a court reporter's record. [01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:33.520] Who tampered? [01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:43.520] Well, it has to be the court reporter along with the, I'm not sure if she consulted with the, you know, trial court judge down here and there's others in this too. [01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:53.520] No, what I'm thinking is how do you assign culpability? How do you use this to help your case? [01:42:53.520 --> 01:43:10.520] I can see where you, you might have a claim against the court reporter, but you'd have to show that the court reporter acted with criminal culpability rather than just a simple mistake. [01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:17.520] Oh, well, I've already gone back and asked her about this, you know, what this was and what I thought. [01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:22.520] This exhibit, is it critical? [01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:45.520] Uh, maybe, maybe not in some ways, except that was a big point because we were talking about, well, what it is, is a public nuisance, type of thing, and the local procedures are really the point to be received first and they never really had one, but they never admitted that they didn't have one. [01:43:45.520 --> 01:44:00.520] Yeah, that is, that is absolutely critical. Okay, hang on, we're going to break, we're going to count on every student, J.D. Craig, we'll go on radio, we'll be right back. [01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:15.520] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? Win your case without an attorney with Jurisdictionary, the affordable, easy to understand four CD course that will show you how in 24 hours, step by step. [01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:23.520] If you have a lawyer, know what your lawyer should be doing. If you don't have a lawyer, know what you should do for yourself. 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Thousands have won with our step by step course, and now you can too. [01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:35.520] Jurisdictionary was created by a licensed attorney with 22 years of case winning experience. [01:45:35.520 --> 01:45:44.520] Even if you're not in a lawsuit, you can learn what everyone should understand about the principles and practices that control our American courts. [01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:53.520] You'll receive our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, forms for civil cases, prosa tactics, and much more. [01:45:53.520 --> 01:46:18.520] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner. Are called toll free 866-LAW-EASY. [01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:33.520] Okay, we're back. Randy Calhseff, Steven Z. Craig, Google Radio. You're getting really bad reception, Danny. [01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:36.520] Okay, where were we? [01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:42.520] Uh, well, that being critical to the case. [01:46:42.520 --> 01:46:49.520] Yeah, okay. Complaint. The exhibit was a complaint? [01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:55.520] Uh, yeah, that's what it was supposed to have been. They had the investigator on the stand. [01:46:55.520 --> 01:47:03.520] I was cross-examining him and kept getting on to this about the original complaint that got the investigation started. [01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:12.520] And finally, the assistant DA over there who was doing the county, I'll pull down this paper. [01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:24.520] You're breaking up really bad. I'm losing you. Do you have another phone or something you can call in with? [01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:28.520] Uh, no, maybe. [01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:37.520] I'm not sure what's going on after you talk a little bit. You start getting real tinny and we can't understand you. [01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:47.520] But if this is about the complaint itself, that is really a big deal. So are you saying that they initiated the prosecution without there being a complaint in existence? [01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:52.520] Well, it's not exactly a prosecution, but an action, yes. [01:47:52.520 --> 01:48:02.520] Is it an action for which he can be subject to a fine or a fee or a penalty? [01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:12.520] Well, not criminal. It's already been done. It's not in that court anymore. That's why it's in the federal court now. [01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:16.520] So rights violation due process. [01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:20.520] Okay, what's the nature of the claim? [01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:28.520] The federal claim? Well, violation of rights for lack of due process is the primary thing. [01:48:28.520 --> 01:48:40.520] Okay, in order to stay in the federal court, you have to go to a constitutional, a specific constitutional right. Which one? [01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:45.520] Uh, well, the right to due process. [01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:49.520] Okay, specifically how? [01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:54.520] Okay, from step one, they weren't following the prescribed process. [01:48:54.520 --> 01:49:00.520] How did that deny him due process? [01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:10.520] Because the first step of process is receipt of a written complaint to initiate an investigation. [01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:14.520] Is that in code? That's not constitutional. [01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:19.520] Yeah, that's the local county's adaptation. That's what it is. [01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:31.520] You can't bring that into federal court. That's not a constitutional violation. It won't go to constitutional due process. [01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:38.520] I'm not being difficult. This is what it's going to take to hold it in court. [01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:43.520] All right, well, I'll probably just put some things together and talk to you some other time. [01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:54.520] We need to look at specifically what the courts are going to say, you know, what constitutional, what federal claim do you have? [01:49:54.520 --> 01:50:08.520] And just general due process is not sufficient. It has to specifically violate a protected constitutional right under federal law. [01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:15.520] Okay, let's talk about this off the air. We've got three more callers. We're running out of time. [01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:20.520] Okay, thank you for calling Danny and give me a call. You got my number. [01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:22.520] All right. [01:50:22.520 --> 01:50:30.520] Okay, bye-bye. Okay, now we're going to go to Joe in Texas. Joe, what do you have for us? [01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:40.520] I have a brother who is in jail for DUI and apparently a person followed him and he called 911. [01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:47.520] And then eventually he parked when the police officer showed up 10 minutes after the fact. [01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:59.520] And so he's got an appointing attorney. My question is the lady has decided not to participate. She's backtracked. [01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:01.520] They're making a difference. [01:51:01.520 --> 01:51:03.520] They're going to make any difference? [01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:06.520] No, they can compel her testimony. [01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:08.520] Oh, they can? [01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:15.520] Yes, they can. She does not get to determine whether or not somebody is prosecuted for a crime. [01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:21.520] If she's a witness and they want to pursue this, they can subpoena her if she won't have any option. [01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:31.520] Yeah, well, that's what the appointed attorney told me. And so if she doesn't decide to subpoena her and arrest her, what? [01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:39.520] Oh, yeah, they can arrest her and hold her as a material witness. [01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:42.520] So obviously he has no chance. [01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:50.520] Well, that's pretty ugly if somebody followed you and called the police on you. [01:51:50.520 --> 01:52:02.520] And she's understandable that once he finds out who she is, that she don't want anything to do with it because she may be afraid of some type of retaliation. [01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:08.520] And you have to know that's well adjudicated in law. They know how to handle that. [01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:10.520] Okay, thanks for it. [01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:13.520] If he can make a deal, he should make a deal. [01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:15.520] Okay, thank you. [01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:18.520] Okay, you are welcome. [01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:24.520] Okay, now we're going to go to Chris in Texas. [01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.520] Yes, Chris, what do you have for us tonight? [01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:30.520] Yes, Mr. Kelton, Mr. Craig. I'd like to thank you for your time. [01:52:30.520 --> 01:52:34.520] I was in the other city of Austin yesterday. I believe it's where you all are at. [01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:39.520] And I got arrested around the Capitol. [01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:49.520] Once I got to the jail, they told me that I wasn't arrested, I was detained. When the officer originally approached me, he questioned my knife that I have on my belt. [01:52:49.520 --> 01:52:57.520] And they wanted me to ID myself and I told them I had done nothing illegal and I don't believe that I have to identify myself and they measured. [01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:01.520] I told them that my knife was legal if that was their probable cause to measure it. [01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:10.520] After they measured it, they still wanted me to ID myself and I said, well, what's your probable cause? And they said, well, we're doing an investigation. [01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:14.520] And I said, well, you've already seen that my knife is legal. [01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:20.520] And they told me that I had to ID myself before I was going to go to jail. [01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:29.520] And I said that I didn't believe I had the authority to make me ID myself and that I refused to do so. [01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:38.520] And then they told, so, I forgot what they told me. I told them everything from now on. I'm doing under arrest. [01:53:38.520 --> 01:53:45.520] And they told me I wasn't under arrest. And then they kept telling me that I need to identify myself. [01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:51.520] And then they started asking me questions about videotaping because I went with the guy at the state building. [01:53:51.520 --> 01:54:00.520] He had told me he had an appointment with Attorney General and once we got there, I realized he didn't. We only entered inside to the building. [01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:08.520] I took all my knives and stuff off and left them in the car. At that time, whenever we went into the building, I still had the chief phone. [01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:13.520] And I was recording on my cell phone. [01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:20.520] You can do that. We just got case law that you can record your public officials. [01:54:20.520 --> 01:54:25.520] So the state trooper that arrested me said that he was arresting me. [01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:31.520] I told them if they still showed me a statue saying that I had to ID because I knew that there wasn't one that I would. [01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:38.520] And then they threatened me with arrest again. And usually when I have this happen, you know, they're just blessing. [01:54:38.520 --> 01:54:44.520] But they actually arrested me and put me in the car. I told them I wanted to see the magistrate right away. [01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:51.520] And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, yes, I want to see the magistrate right away. [01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:56.520] And he told me I don't know what you've heard on the Internet or whatnot. I said, no, sir, I'm regarding statue call. [01:54:56.520 --> 01:55:02.520] Not any hearsay that I've heard on the Internet. And he said that I didn't know what I was talking about. [01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:09.520] And anyway, so they took me to jail. And then after they talked to their supervisor, [01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:16.520] and well, first they looked through this book for 30 minutes and then showed me the statue that they were trying to apply. [01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:21.520] And it said the after one is arrested, you know, that they must ID. I might put a son lost for arrest. [01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:30.520] So that statue didn't apply to me. And they had me, they took all my stuff and booked it and whatnot. [01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:38.520] And then they had me speak with the detective and the head DPS officer, sergeant or captain, I'm not sure. [01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:46.520] And after I told the detective who I was and whatnot, I'm wondering if I can. [01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:52.520] And also when I was there, my buddy that I was with, he had asked the officer what his badge number was and his name. [01:55:52.520 --> 01:55:58.520] And he refused to give it to him. And I was wondering if I had, they let me go. [01:55:58.520 --> 01:56:06.520] And they bought me a pack of cigarettes and two lighters because they had thrown mine away, which I thought was nice to them. [01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:09.520] Whoa, whoa, they threw yours away? [01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:10.520] Yes. [01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:19.520] Oh, goodie. You need to sue them for false arrest and charge them criminally. Were they carrying pistols? [01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:27.520] Yes, sir. I told the, I didn't say anything out loud because I didn't want them to know that I knew that they were kidnapping me. [01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:28.520] I'm sorry, I'm not. [01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:35.520] Well, you, you've got a lot to go after them for. Remember though, Texas doesn't have false arrest, it's false imprisonment. [01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:42.520] And you need to do this because they think this is a simple no big deal thing. [01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.520] They need to find out this is a really big deal. [01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:46.520] I concur. I don't want to. [01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:53.520] Yeah, to the point of I don't own my own house, any more big deal. [01:56:53.520 --> 01:57:00.520] Yes, sir. And I was wondering, I want to do my due diligence on studying the information, but I haven't gotten paid yet. [01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:15.520] And I want to study like, like y'all have done and become knowledgeable of the statutes and whatnot so that I can help other people through putting criminal public servants, you know. [01:57:15.520 --> 01:57:17.520] Now, wait a minute. We don't get paid. [01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:18.520] No, no, no. [01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:20.520] What makes you think you're going to? [01:57:20.520 --> 01:57:24.520] I didn't get paid. I don't believe I said paid, sir. [01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:27.520] Yeah, you said I haven't gotten paid yet. [01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:32.520] Oh, no, no, no. I haven't got paid so that I can purchase all materials. [01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:36.520] Yeah, we got that. He was just kind of pulling your leg. [01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:40.520] Oh, okay. I'm sorry. [01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:45.520] Now, the point here is, is that our materials teach you about certain things. [01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:50.520] For instance, the traffic seminar doesn't teach you about how to go to court. [01:57:50.520 --> 01:58:05.520] We added that after the fact. What the traffic seminar intent to do was to educate the general population on how to read and understand statutory construction and law and the needs. [01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:15.520] So you don't necessarily have to have our stuff to learn and study. You can just go to the web and read the Texas government websites available to everybody. [01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:20.520] Read the penal code. Read the Code of Criminal Procedure twice. [01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:24.520] And then you're on your way. And you might want to look at your stick there. [01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:28.520] That will really bring you up to speed, just those two things. [01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:29.520] And that'll help me out. [01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:30.520] Okay. [01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:31.520] You want these individuals? [01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:35.520] Yes, it will get you way ahead of most attorneys. [01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:39.520] Yeah, you can come to the Sunday classes and break new books, too. That'll help. [01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:43.520] Okay, we are out of time. Thank you all for listening. [01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:51.520] Eddie and Deborah will be back Monday. I'll be back Thursday and Friday for our regular shows. [01:58:51.520 --> 01:59:18.520] Thank you all for listening in and good night. [01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:31.520] Thank you all for listening. [01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:59.520] That's 888-551-0102 or visit us online at bfa.org.