[00:00.000 --> 00:04.640] This news brief brought to you by the International Newsnet. [00:04.640 --> 00:09.640] Syrian security forces raided homes and clashes erupted between soldiers and army defectors [00:09.640 --> 00:15.720] Thursday, killing at least 21 people across the country, including an 8-year-old girl. [00:15.720 --> 00:20.440] In some of the attacks, security forces opened fire as they conducted raids in search of [00:20.440 --> 00:26.960] dissidents in the suburbs of the capital Damascus, Deir el-Sour, Hamar and Homs, epicenter of [00:26.960 --> 00:27.960] the uprising. [00:27.960 --> 00:35.960] Drug company Baxter Healthcare has announced it is recalling roughly 300,000 doses of its [00:35.960 --> 00:42.960] pre-fluousal influenza vaccine due to an excessive number of, quote, adverse events. [00:42.960 --> 00:49.200] Baxter is the same company that accidentally inserted avian flu virus into flu vaccines [00:49.200 --> 00:50.880] in 2009. [00:50.880 --> 00:57.520] The UK Daily Mail reports many people injected with an apparently tainted batch of pre-fluousal [00:57.520 --> 01:03.160] reported side effects like fatigue, muscle pain and headaches. [01:03.160 --> 01:08.080] The sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain were only briefly mentioned at Wednesday's [01:08.080 --> 01:12.520] Republican presidential debate in Michigan where the crowd booed when he was asked to [01:12.520 --> 01:13.520] address them. [01:13.520 --> 01:16.200] Cain called the allegations unfounded. [01:16.200 --> 01:21.280] A woman said Cain lunged for her genitalia in 1997 while he was head of the National [01:21.280 --> 01:22.960] Restaurant Association. [01:22.960 --> 01:27.480] Two women received settlements from the association due to sexual misconduct complaints against [01:27.480 --> 01:31.640] Cain in the 1990s. [01:31.640 --> 01:36.360] Americans with serious health problems are the most likely to have trouble paying medical [01:36.360 --> 01:42.320] bills or getting needed care than seriously ill adults in other developed countries. [01:42.320 --> 01:48.520] Data compiled by the Commonwealth Fund of more than 18,000 adults in the US and 10 other [01:48.520 --> 01:53.720] developed countries found Americans were most likely to have problems getting care because [01:53.720 --> 01:55.760] of the high cost of treatment. [01:55.760 --> 02:01.760] The survey found 42% of adults with health problems went without care because of cost [02:01.760 --> 02:07.000] and more than a quarter couldn't pay or had serious problems paying medical bills. [02:07.000 --> 02:12.640] That compared to a maximum of 14% in other developed countries. [02:12.640 --> 02:17.120] Security guards and police defended Salabi's auction house Wednesday as ladies in mink [02:17.120 --> 02:22.480] coats and men wearing black ties rushed inside to the chance of shame. [02:22.480 --> 02:27.960] Credit handles with Teamsters Local 814 had been locked out since August 1st over a contract [02:27.960 --> 02:33.360] dispute that has become a rallying point for labor activists with Occupy Wall Street. [02:33.360 --> 02:40.840] Salabi's made $680 million in profits in 2010 and CEO Bill Ruprecht received a 125% [02:40.840 --> 02:45.240] pay raise while demanding union members accept cutbacks. [02:45.240 --> 02:50.480] Salabi's wants to hire unskilled temporary workers, cut wages 10%, eliminate health and [02:50.480 --> 02:57.480] returner benefits and make employees waive their right to sue for discrimination. [03:50.480 --> 04:15.480] All right, bad boys, bad boys and bad girls, what are you going to do when we come for [04:15.480 --> 04:16.480] you? [04:16.480 --> 04:27.480] I am Deborah Stevens, I'm here with Randy Kelton and a very special guest tonight, Mr. [04:27.480 --> 04:28.480] Michael Badnarik. [04:28.480 --> 04:31.680] Eddie Craig is not with us yet tonight. [04:31.680 --> 04:39.200] He will be, but he is en route back to his studio from the InfoWars Studio. [04:39.200 --> 04:44.880] Eddie was on Alex Jones' show today, it was a great interview and he was also on Alex's [04:44.880 --> 04:52.120] TV show this evening, which is every weeknight at 7 p.m. on PrismPlanet.tv, so Eddie is on [04:52.120 --> 04:57.600] the way back to his studio from the InfoWars Studio and he will be joining us very soon. [04:57.600 --> 05:01.800] In the meantime, we have Mr. Michael Badnarik that's going to be joining us tonight. [05:01.800 --> 05:05.520] We have another special guest that Michael has invited, she will be joining us coming [05:05.520 --> 05:06.920] up in the next segment. [05:06.920 --> 05:10.240] Michael, thank you and welcome to the show. [05:10.240 --> 05:15.960] I am so glad to be back and I'm so glad that Randall is back. [05:15.960 --> 05:21.160] Like to have him on the outside helping us, I was ready to get a jeep and pull the bars [05:21.160 --> 05:25.800] off the cells and get him out. [05:25.800 --> 05:28.560] It is good to be out. [05:28.560 --> 05:36.720] I think he was getting a nap over there in solitary confinement and just like, you know, [05:36.720 --> 05:41.760] he's usually so busy that he put them in solitary confinement at the tootsip, check [05:41.760 --> 05:44.000] his eyelids for leaks. [05:44.000 --> 05:48.040] I think I wore all the sealer off the concrete floor. [05:48.040 --> 05:50.240] Because you were pacing? [05:50.240 --> 05:51.240] Yes. [05:51.240 --> 05:52.240] Oh, goodness. [05:52.240 --> 05:59.120] Well, Michael, you have some Constitution classes coming up, namely, you're going to [05:59.120 --> 06:06.240] be teaching on the State House floor of the Oklahoma Legislature. [06:06.240 --> 06:09.600] I am so excited, I can't see straight. [06:09.600 --> 06:11.360] I can't tell you. [06:11.360 --> 06:16.240] I was invited to come to Oklahoma to teach my Constitution class. [06:16.240 --> 06:21.480] Naturally, I said, okay, sure, no problem, I can teach anywhere. [06:21.480 --> 06:24.440] And they said, well, we're going to promise you 100 students. [06:24.440 --> 06:28.840] Well, I wish I had a dollar every time somebody told me that. [06:28.840 --> 06:32.920] And they said, yeah, yeah, okay, sure, it'll win pigs fly. [06:32.920 --> 06:38.000] And so I called back and I said, well, where exactly was this class going to be? [06:38.000 --> 06:40.600] And she goes, well, I'm at the State Capitol right now. [06:40.600 --> 06:41.600] We're getting ready. [06:41.600 --> 06:44.000] I go, well, what does that have to do with my Constitution class? [06:44.000 --> 06:49.520] So, well, you're going to be teaching on the floor of State House, you know, in the legislative [06:49.520 --> 06:50.520] building. [06:50.520 --> 06:51.840] I had to sit down. [06:51.840 --> 06:53.800] I couldn't believe it. [06:53.800 --> 07:01.000] And most of your listeners are probably familiar with the State Representative Charles Key. [07:01.000 --> 07:04.440] He has, you know, been in the news. [07:04.440 --> 07:06.040] He is definitely a patriot. [07:06.040 --> 07:09.840] He is a strong constitutionalist. [07:09.840 --> 07:17.880] And it was his idea to bring me to Oklahoma to teach my class and, and this is the really [07:17.880 --> 07:25.400] great part, they are planning to invite all of the state legislators to come in and hear [07:25.400 --> 07:30.400] me talk about rights versus privileges and what their responsibility is under the oath [07:30.400 --> 07:33.360] that they took to the Constitution. [07:33.360 --> 07:35.680] I cannot believe it. [07:35.680 --> 07:37.960] This is going to be fantastic. [07:37.960 --> 07:45.680] And so I posted that on Facebook that I was going to, you know, to be in Oklahoma and [07:45.680 --> 07:52.760] almost immediately got messages from people in two other states and they wanted to know [07:52.760 --> 07:59.600] if I could come to their state because they didn't want Oklahoma to have the only patriotic [07:59.600 --> 08:02.000] state legislature. [08:02.000 --> 08:09.280] And all of a sudden I've done that made that, well, there's Oklahoma and 49 other states [08:09.280 --> 08:13.560] and this could be a regular thing. [08:13.560 --> 08:21.200] And so what I've done is created something that I call Operation Domino Effect. [08:21.200 --> 08:27.760] And the idea is that we can get into the state house in Oklahoma and then, you know, consecutively [08:27.760 --> 08:36.160] 49 other state legislatures and, and actually get the state government to understand their [08:36.160 --> 08:40.440] power over the federal government. [08:40.440 --> 08:45.760] I mean, this would be a major leap forward for liberty. [08:45.760 --> 09:00.880] And this kind of runs in parallel with a project that Sheriff Mack wanted to have and his project [09:00.880 --> 09:13.960] is the county sheriff project and he wants to bring 200 sheriffs to Las Vegas at the [09:13.960 --> 09:21.160] end of January and train the sheriffs about their oath of office. [09:21.160 --> 09:26.640] So he's working on the legislative branch, I would start working on the legislative [09:26.640 --> 09:37.520] branch and if we can, you know, get all that to happen, can you imagine the strides that [09:37.520 --> 09:40.680] we would be taking towards liberty? [09:40.680 --> 09:45.880] My mind boggles, I almost can't sleep at night thinking that we have finally found [09:45.880 --> 09:47.640] the chink in the armor. [09:47.640 --> 09:53.080] We are finally going to start getting people to pay attention to, you know, individual [09:53.080 --> 09:55.800] rights and private property. [09:55.800 --> 10:04.560] And so I am, I am thrilled and I don't want to personally thank Charles Steeve for coming [10:04.560 --> 10:10.600] up with the idea and between now and the first of the year I'll be working very closely [10:10.600 --> 10:15.520] with him to make this first event a huge success. [10:15.520 --> 10:18.760] I think that's just absolutely fantastic. [10:18.760 --> 10:21.280] We work on multiple fronts here. [10:21.280 --> 10:26.000] You educating the legislative branch and we have Sheriff Mack educating the executive [10:26.000 --> 10:28.000] branch, it's perfect. [10:28.000 --> 10:32.600] Yeah, I think it's high time. [10:32.600 --> 10:38.160] I've talked to you about this once before that I believe that you and I and Deborah [10:38.160 --> 10:46.440] and Eddie, we have had our lives groomed to put us in this place at this time for this [10:46.440 --> 10:49.120] purpose. [10:49.120 --> 10:56.240] And it looks like for you that the purpose is beginning to reveal itself and I am very [10:56.240 --> 10:59.200] thrilled to hear that. [10:59.200 --> 11:00.200] What do you think? [11:00.200 --> 11:01.200] Hi again. [11:01.200 --> 11:02.200] Hi. [11:02.200 --> 11:03.200] Go ahead Michael. [11:03.200 --> 11:04.200] Go ahead Deborah. [11:04.200 --> 11:09.360] I was just going to say, so how do you see this unfolding Michael? [11:09.360 --> 11:10.800] Are things escalating? [11:10.800 --> 11:16.320] Are people starting to wake up more and more and now, I mean it looks to me like there [11:16.320 --> 11:22.520] is something on the move here because I've never heard of you teaching a Constitution [11:22.520 --> 11:27.240] class to legislators before and I've never heard of something like Sheriff Mack getting [11:27.240 --> 11:31.640] together 200 sheriffs from around the country to educate before. [11:31.640 --> 11:34.720] I would say that we're having an effect. [11:34.720 --> 11:37.320] What does it look like to you Michael? [11:37.320 --> 11:40.080] Well we are definitely having an effect. [11:40.080 --> 11:47.720] I mean you and I and Sheriff Mack, we've all been having an effect for many years. [11:47.720 --> 11:55.520] The only problem is we haven't been able to see the results of our effect. [11:55.520 --> 11:58.480] My motto has always been lighting the fires of liberty. [11:58.480 --> 12:04.640] Well I go into town, teach my class, get everybody all excited and then I leave. [12:04.640 --> 12:08.840] Those people don't come back to me and say, oh by the way, because I took your class, [12:08.840 --> 12:18.000] I'm doing this, I'm doing that, and I'm protesting, but they are and it just takes a critical [12:18.000 --> 12:25.760] mass and when you're filling up a swimming pool, I mean you can pour water into the [12:25.760 --> 12:31.760] swimming pool for a long time and it just still doesn't seem like it's ready for anybody [12:31.760 --> 12:39.680] to jump in and splash, but then all of a sudden, you know, it just kind of comes around. [12:39.680 --> 12:48.200] Now you were asking if I saw an increase in activity and they're certainly true. [12:48.200 --> 12:54.880] You know, ten years ago, I felt pretty much like there were only five or six of us fighting [12:54.880 --> 12:57.400] for liberty. [12:57.400 --> 13:03.080] I was literally, my motto was lighting the fires of liberty one heart at a time and I [13:03.080 --> 13:07.920] taught my class to two people one time. [13:07.920 --> 13:12.960] So you know, it was slow going but I was persistent. [13:12.960 --> 13:21.120] Now we've got the Tea Party rallies, the Occupy Wall Street, the Oath Keepers, I mean [13:21.120 --> 13:29.480] you name it, there are a dozen state militias that I know about, you can't throw a stick [13:29.480 --> 13:36.520] these days without getting some kind of a protest rally and so I think the American [13:36.520 --> 13:39.320] public is finally starting to wake up. [13:39.320 --> 13:45.600] The government is so far out of control that, you know, people are angry. [13:45.600 --> 13:50.040] I don't think they've ever been this angry, I mean even when they were throwing tea into [13:50.040 --> 13:57.720] Boston Harbor, I don't think they were this angry but part of the problem, and I just [13:57.720 --> 14:05.840] want to take a second, the Occupy Wall Street, they want to eliminate the Federal Reserve [14:05.840 --> 14:07.280] and I agree with that. [14:07.280 --> 14:13.200] They want to stop all the corporate bailouts and I agree with that. [14:13.200 --> 14:15.520] I mean these people are angry. [14:15.520 --> 14:22.920] The only thing I don't agree with is that most of these Occupy Wall Street people are [14:22.920 --> 14:28.920] young, you know, recently out of college, they have a college degree, they also have [14:28.920 --> 14:37.640] you know, 25 to $50,000 in student loans they have to pay back and they can't get a job. [14:37.640 --> 14:42.720] And the only thing I disagree with is that they want the government to stop bailing out [14:42.720 --> 14:46.120] corporations and start bailing them out instead. [14:46.120 --> 14:52.160] Well, you know, if you're stealing from somebody to give to somebody else, that's bad, but [14:52.160 --> 14:56.440] it's also bad to steal from somebody else and give it to you. [14:56.440 --> 15:02.720] I mean the only thing that's changing is, you know, where the booty is being, you know, [15:02.720 --> 15:03.960] directed. [15:03.960 --> 15:12.520] And so I've actually been in conversation with somebody claiming to be part of the Occupy [15:12.520 --> 15:20.160] Wall Street, they wanted to know if I was willing to, you know, to teach the Wall Street [15:20.160 --> 15:21.160] people. [15:21.160 --> 15:26.640] And I was like, well absolutely, they don't have jobs, they probably don't have money [15:26.640 --> 15:32.840] to take my class and they probably wouldn't sit through an eight hour class anyway. [15:32.840 --> 15:38.600] But I said, if you can find somebody to subsidize it so that I get paid and, you know, we can [15:38.600 --> 15:45.080] break it down into, you know, like 45 minute or maybe hour sessions and do a little bit [15:45.080 --> 15:51.560] at a time, I would be happy, you know, because the only thing that the Occupy Wall Street [15:51.560 --> 15:57.120] people don't have is a really good understanding of who they are mad at. [15:57.120 --> 16:02.400] If I can give them that information, you know, the bankers and the people in the Federal [16:02.400 --> 16:06.040] Reserve are going to be in serious, serious trouble. [16:06.040 --> 16:10.680] Yes, I was going to ask you about that if you had gotten involved with the Occupy Movement [16:10.680 --> 16:16.320] yet and I think it's very much needed because I've noticed across the board a lot of these [16:16.320 --> 16:23.280] Occupy people, they tend to lean much more towards like the socialist spectrum here and [16:23.280 --> 16:28.680] they don't quite get the private property thing yet, they're mad at capitalism. [16:28.680 --> 16:33.460] They think capitalism is bad because of the banks and they don't understand that we don't [16:33.460 --> 16:39.240] have capitalism right now, that we've got fascism, that the private entities are controlling [16:39.240 --> 16:43.600] the government and so what we're going to ask the government to turn around and regulate [16:43.600 --> 16:46.840] the people that are controlling the government, it's just not going to work. 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[19:27.480 --> 19:34.480] The Michael Meyers Proven Method is the solution for how to stop debt collectors. [19:57.480 --> 20:05.480] The Michael Meyers Proven Method is the solution for how to stop debt collectors. [20:28.480 --> 20:29.480] We are not letting them. [20:29.480 --> 20:32.320] We're not letting the bad guys get away with it. [20:32.320 --> 20:38.080] Here on the rule of law, ruleoflawradio.com, I'm Deborah Stevens here with my co-host [20:38.080 --> 20:39.080] Randy Kelton. [20:39.080 --> 20:44.000] Eddie Craig is en route back to the studio from the Info Wars Camp and we have our very [20:44.000 --> 20:50.480] special guest, Mr. Michael Badnarik and also our other guest, Ms. Tisha Casada. [20:50.480 --> 20:57.480] She is running for U.S. Congress House of Representatives in Colorado's third congressional [20:57.480 --> 20:58.480] district. [20:58.480 --> 21:01.480] We're very happy to have Ms. Tisha Casada on the air. [21:01.480 --> 21:06.480] So Michael, why don't you more completely introduce our guest? [21:06.480 --> 21:13.480] I am very excited about the Tisha's campaign for Congress. [21:13.480 --> 21:18.480] I was in Texas about five months ago and I got a phone call from a young lady in Colorado [21:18.480 --> 21:23.480] who said that she wanted to run for Congress and she was asking for my advice. [21:23.480 --> 21:28.480] So I asked her some questions about the campaign and told her I would call her back in a couple [21:28.480 --> 21:29.480] of days. [21:29.480 --> 21:34.480] Well, because I've grown old and cynical, I called her and I told her that the electronic [21:34.480 --> 21:38.480] voting machines are rigged, the media won't touch you, you're going to spend all your [21:38.480 --> 21:41.480] time and money and, you know, you're not going to get anywhere. [21:41.480 --> 21:45.480] And I said, so, you know, you just end up cold and cynical like I am. [21:45.480 --> 21:51.480] I recommended that she find some other activity to direct her energy to. [21:51.480 --> 21:54.480] And, well, Tisha really didn't like that answer. [21:54.480 --> 22:01.480] She, you know, she thanked me for my advice and decided to run for Congress anyway. [22:01.480 --> 22:07.480] And then she was so stubborn she called me back and asked if I would come and help teach [22:07.480 --> 22:15.480] the Bill of Rights session as part of her campaign in District 3. [22:15.480 --> 22:20.480] Well, I did some research on District 3 and if you draw a vertical line through the middle [22:20.480 --> 22:27.480] of Colorado, District 3 is almost all of the left half and a significant portion of the [22:27.480 --> 22:29.480] southeast corner. [22:29.480 --> 22:36.480] Just a rough estimate, I think she's got about 65% of the land mass of Colorado. [22:36.480 --> 22:44.480] And so I've been talking to her quite a bit and the thing that amazes me about Tisha is [22:44.480 --> 22:48.480] her enthusiasm and her positive attitude. [22:48.480 --> 22:54.480] And she has taken me in really cynical, presumed, thought that the elections are pretty much [22:54.480 --> 22:59.480] worthless and she has me convinced that she's going to win. [22:59.480 --> 23:03.480] And if she's not going to win, I know that she's going to move heaven and earth to give [23:03.480 --> 23:04.480] it a shot. [23:04.480 --> 23:09.480] And I've talked with her for quite some time. [23:09.480 --> 23:10.480] She's very articulate. [23:10.480 --> 23:12.480] She's very intelligent. [23:12.480 --> 23:19.480] She hasn't taken my class yet, but she already understands the fundamentals of private property [23:19.480 --> 23:21.480] and the Constitution. [23:21.480 --> 23:30.480] And additional research, the people in District 3 got rid of a Democrat in the last election. [23:30.480 --> 23:35.480] The Democrat had been in for three sessions, total of six years. [23:35.480 --> 23:39.480] And I guess they had enough of his antics and they elected a Republican. [23:39.480 --> 23:46.480] And in contacting people from Colorado, they've told me that after 12 months, they're ready [23:46.480 --> 23:48.480] to get rid of the Republican. [23:48.480 --> 23:54.480] And Tisha is consciously, deliberately running as an independent. [23:54.480 --> 23:55.480] She's not a Republican. [23:55.480 --> 23:56.480] She's not a Democrat. [23:56.480 --> 23:58.480] She is for the people. [23:58.480 --> 24:02.480] And people are excited already. [24:02.480 --> 24:05.480] We have a tour for the next week through Colorado. [24:05.480 --> 24:16.480] And I think we're going to like the fires of liberty in Colorado and she's going to lead the way. [24:16.480 --> 24:17.480] Thank you, Michael. [24:17.480 --> 24:25.480] I am very glad to hear this because if there was ever a time to run as an independent, [24:25.480 --> 24:36.480] this is probably it because what we've been saying is, is the people are so upset that they're a lot like Michael. [24:36.480 --> 24:37.480] They're cynical. [24:37.480 --> 24:43.480] They look at the two parties and they wonder which is worse. [24:43.480 --> 24:51.480] And they don't necessarily know who to vote for, but they certainly know who to vote against. [24:51.480 --> 24:58.480] Whoever the incumbent is in this next election is coming in with a handicap. [24:58.480 --> 25:09.480] And I would think if there was ever a time for it to be the independent, this is it because they had a Democrat didn't like him, [25:09.480 --> 25:11.480] had a Republican didn't like him. [25:11.480 --> 25:15.480] This might have given her a good shot. [25:15.480 --> 25:23.480] Obsessions tell the audience about your personal business and what your plans are for District 3. [25:23.480 --> 25:26.480] Well, thank you for that kind introduction. [25:26.480 --> 25:31.480] First of all, and for the opportunity to be on your show. [25:31.480 --> 25:38.480] I was really inspired to do something because I myself am a small business owner and I'm in my sixth year of business. [25:38.480 --> 25:47.480] I've never had the opportunity to grow my company quite like I would like to and the reason is because of what's happening in the economy. [25:47.480 --> 25:57.480] Most of my clients are small business owners and I see every day how much they're affected by the bureaucracy and red tape is coming down the pipe, [25:57.480 --> 26:00.480] whether it's from the federal, state or local governments. [26:00.480 --> 26:10.480] And I myself had a run in with our own local Pueblo City, Pueblo County government when I was trying to do a farmers market, [26:10.480 --> 26:17.480] effectively bringing people together and helping the community and of course bringing sales tax revenue to a city that desperately needs it. [26:17.480 --> 26:30.480] And after fighting them and illustrating to them what the difference was, how they treated myself, how they treated the public market, [26:30.480 --> 26:35.480] then I had wrote to city council, the county commissioner, city manager. [26:35.480 --> 26:41.480] I was completely ignored by them and I thought, well, government's broken and we really need to step up and do something. [26:41.480 --> 26:49.480] So I've had my own personal experiences that have kind of led me to believe that the people need a candidate that's actually from the people, for the people. [26:49.480 --> 26:59.480] And I also, I'm just inspired to, you know, like Michael says, light the fires of liberty and be a shining light and beacon for people [26:59.480 --> 27:03.480] because I think that many people feel like our system's broken right now. [27:03.480 --> 27:08.480] And the reason is because we have people without any character or integrity in office. [27:08.480 --> 27:11.480] And of course I want to stand up and do something in my district. [27:11.480 --> 27:22.480] And I believe that 2012 will be a year that people all across the country are going to stand up and do something and take our power back as people. [27:22.480 --> 27:25.480] That's fantastic. [27:25.480 --> 27:43.480] And I think you are absolutely dead on if there was ever a time when the public will be looking for new blood for fresh ideas and for people that are not part of the entrenched establishment. [27:43.480 --> 27:46.480] This is going to be the time. [27:46.480 --> 27:48.480] Exactly. [27:48.480 --> 27:51.480] Yeah, I think we're in a very unique election year. [27:51.480 --> 28:04.480] I think the sentiment of people, there's so many underlying sentiments that we agree on, whether you're part of the Tea Party and are frustrated that big government are part of Occupy Wall Street and frustrated with big business. [28:04.480 --> 28:06.480] They're one in the same. [28:06.480 --> 28:07.480] It's corruption. [28:07.480 --> 28:08.480] The tentacles go deep. [28:08.480 --> 28:18.480] They start at things like the Federal Reserve and the fact that we have legislators legislating instead of just representing the people, which was their intent. [28:18.480 --> 28:25.480] It's the whole purpose of having representatives not to write legislation but to protect the people's rights that are already laid out in the Constitution. [28:25.480 --> 28:32.480] And of all the times for us to work together as people and unite on principle, this is the time. [28:32.480 --> 28:35.480] We're definitely right for it. [28:35.480 --> 28:39.480] Do you have essentially a platform? [28:39.480 --> 28:43.480] Do you have a plan of what you're going to try to do to make things better? [28:43.480 --> 28:48.480] We do have our generalized platform available on our website. [28:48.480 --> 29:06.480] And as far as how we're going to attack these problems, my hope is that at the federal level in 2012, we're going to get a group of new fresh representatives that want to work together as a coalition to change some of the atrocities that have happened into our rights. [29:06.480 --> 29:25.480] And then on a more local level, I'm hoping to work with state representatives and local representatives to empower them using the 10th Amendment and the power that sheriffs have in their own counties to actually step up what we're doing in our own locality so that if there is something that happens at a national level, [29:25.480 --> 29:35.480] our own localities in Colorado's District 3 will be empowered with the tools that they need to be able to continue engaging in commerce and protecting their rights. [29:35.480 --> 29:44.480] So it's kind of twofold. I'm hoping to find lots of Liberty candidates and Liberty representatives all across the country where we can work together in Washington, D.C. [29:44.480 --> 29:54.480] And at the same time, really work with these local groups in the community to build something here just in case something happens nationally. [29:54.480 --> 29:59.480] All right. That's awesome. Hold on. Hold that thought. Tisha will be right back after this break. [29:59.480 --> 30:05.480] This is Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell on the afternoon of September 11. [30:05.480 --> 30:12.480] The government says that fire brought it down. However, 1,500 architects and engineers concluded it was a controlled demolition. [30:12.480 --> 30:15.480] Over 6,000 of my fellow service members have given their lives. [30:15.480 --> 30:17.480] Thousands of my fellow first responders have died. [30:17.480 --> 30:19.480] I'm not a conspiracy theorist. [30:19.480 --> 30:20.480] I'm a structural engineer. [30:20.480 --> 30:21.480] I'm a New York City correction officer. [30:21.480 --> 30:22.480] I'm an Air Force pilot. [30:22.480 --> 30:24.480] I'm a father who lost his son. [30:24.480 --> 30:26.480] We're Americans, and we deserve the truth. [30:26.480 --> 30:29.480] Go to RememberBuilding7.org today. 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[32:20.480 --> 32:25.480] Okay, we're back. [32:25.480 --> 32:28.480] Eddie will be back eventually. [32:28.480 --> 32:37.480] We were talking to Tish, and on the break I asked some questions about growing food. [32:37.480 --> 32:45.480] We seem to have a large push in this country to push us off the land. [32:45.480 --> 32:53.480] One of the ways they're doing that is they want to tell you what you can grow in your garden. [32:53.480 --> 32:58.480] Well, they want to tell you you can't collect rainwater because it doesn't belong to you. [32:58.480 --> 33:01.480] It belongs to some municipality. [33:01.480 --> 33:10.480] Tish, what do you have planned to help us get back on the land and get back control of our own lives? [33:10.480 --> 33:19.480] Well, first of all, there should be no international agency or federal agency dictating what people can or can't eat [33:19.480 --> 33:22.480] or what they can or can't do with their property. [33:22.480 --> 33:29.480] So, I mean, really it's unconstitutional at best, and we have many unconstitutional things on the books right now. [33:29.480 --> 33:37.480] But what we really need to focus on are government agencies that are using regulations and mandates to create an environment [33:37.480 --> 33:41.480] where people are not able to make these decisions for themselves. [33:41.480 --> 33:46.480] I don't know if I'm guessing you guys have seen that movie, Dr. Brzezinski, [33:46.480 --> 33:51.480] and you're probably familiar with some of what went on with that and what continues to go on. [33:51.480 --> 33:59.480] And basically, you know, we have a federal government agency called the SDA that's supposed to be protecting the American people [33:59.480 --> 34:09.480] with the different pharmaceutical drugs and they're actually fighting the things that are proven to prevent and cure cancers. [34:09.480 --> 34:18.480] And that is ludicrous because it's taxpayer money going to actually perpetuate sickness through things like prescription medications [34:18.480 --> 34:20.480] which really have not been tested that well. [34:20.480 --> 34:32.480] There's that, there's things like the raw milk and the idiocy behind having the use of force and federal agents go on to maw and paw farms [34:32.480 --> 34:40.480] and raid their operations, and I think even some of them have been at gunpoint, which is insane. [34:40.480 --> 34:43.480] These are things, you know, raw milk is not a new concept. [34:43.480 --> 34:51.480] Not even a hundred years ago, like my grandmother drank raw milk and there was no federal agency telling you what you could or couldn't drink. [34:51.480 --> 35:01.480] And really, in my heart of hearts, I feel like, you know, we need to protect the American people by allowing them to consume foods and products that boost their immune system. [35:01.480 --> 35:12.480] You could ask, go to the American Medical Association and ask the director what the single most important thing is to protect a human against disease. [35:12.480 --> 35:14.480] And they're going to tell you the immune system. [35:14.480 --> 35:22.480] Well, if that's the case, why isn't one medical doctor prescribing something that boosts people's immune systems? [35:22.480 --> 35:30.480] You know, so I feel like our system, you know, whether it's the food that we eat or the medicines that we use, if they come naturally from the land, [35:30.480 --> 35:32.480] we really need to protect those. [35:32.480 --> 35:36.480] And so I think, first of all, I'd like to be a voice for that in Congress. [35:36.480 --> 35:43.480] And secondly, I'd like to build a coalition of people to fight back. [35:43.480 --> 35:45.480] I like to fight back part. [35:45.480 --> 35:50.480] I'm ready to fight back, especially if they're trying to take my raw milk away. [35:50.480 --> 35:52.480] I mean, we're not talking heroin. [35:52.480 --> 35:53.480] We're not talking cocaine. [35:53.480 --> 35:55.480] We're talking milk. [35:55.480 --> 35:58.480] I mean, like liquid from a cow. [35:58.480 --> 36:00.480] Exactly. [36:00.480 --> 36:09.480] I can't believe that they've made a law in Wisconsin that says you don't really have a right to drink milk from the cow that you own. [36:09.480 --> 36:17.480] I can't believe that any person would have the audacity to make that as a public statement. [36:17.480 --> 36:28.480] That's almost as bad as the Indiana Supreme Court declaring that I don't have a right to defend myself if the police are breaking down my door without a warrant and committing a crime. [36:28.480 --> 36:29.480] Right. [36:29.480 --> 36:31.480] It's crazy. [36:31.480 --> 36:37.480] And that's one of the reasons that people are, you know, standing up to resist this tyranny. [36:37.480 --> 36:41.480] And I mean, I think we all know. [36:41.480 --> 36:47.480] I think we all know that sooner or later, you know, the Liberty Movement is going to have a victory. [36:47.480 --> 36:51.480] We're going to restore the way things used to be. [36:51.480 --> 37:02.480] And I mean, I admit that, you know, I was somewhat skeptical when I first heard about Tisha's campaign, but she has made me a believer. [37:02.480 --> 37:10.480] And one of the things I think is going to make Tisha so successful is because she's giving people hope. [37:10.480 --> 37:13.480] You know, she's showing them that, yes, this is possible. [37:13.480 --> 37:19.480] You know, you don't have to feel like you were helpless in the face of the government. [37:19.480 --> 37:30.480] And it's that, you know, overcoming helplessness that the voters so desperately want. [37:30.480 --> 37:33.480] Yeah, it's an empowering factor. [37:33.480 --> 37:36.480] You know, you just can't, you cannot be afraid. [37:36.480 --> 37:42.480] Being fearful does nothing for creating a productive and profitable society. [37:42.480 --> 37:49.480] And I think that there's forces at work that want us to be afraid and you can't be. [37:49.480 --> 38:01.480] It doesn't matter what faith you have or what you believe in, but you have got to believe that, you know, there's a generation of people coming up that desperately need good leaders [38:01.480 --> 38:05.480] and there's little babies being born every day that are completely innocent. [38:05.480 --> 38:17.480] And I think it's our job as Americans and just as human beings really to fight, to protect ourselves and protect our families, our communities, [38:17.480 --> 38:19.480] and to stand up and do what each of us can do. [38:19.480 --> 38:27.480] And I mean, at the end of the day, that's what this walk on earth is all about, is, you know, standing up for what's right. [38:27.480 --> 38:36.480] And we're just in a period of time where I think it's becoming increasingly evident how important it is that each of us sheds the light that we have. [38:36.480 --> 38:41.480] You know, and we all have our bad days and we dim and we can feel cynical and upset. [38:41.480 --> 38:42.480] And that's okay. [38:42.480 --> 38:47.480] You just have to keep on, keep on going because there's, there are good things ahead. [38:47.480 --> 38:58.480] I mean, for me, I'm altering 30 in December, I have another 30 working years in the United States of America. [38:58.480 --> 39:04.480] I want to do it in a free country and I want to, you know, be profitable and I think a lot of other people feel the same, but it's up to us to change it. [39:04.480 --> 39:11.480] And every day we have to do something positive and proactive to do that. [39:11.480 --> 39:20.480] That's something we have in common, Tisha. We both have about 30 more years to work on this planet. [39:20.480 --> 39:21.480] The average. [39:21.480 --> 39:30.480] Yeah, but Tisha's going to do it without a walker. [39:30.480 --> 39:38.480] Well, at my age, I can talk about Tisha and say, and a child shall lead them. [39:38.480 --> 39:46.480] Tisha, you're in good company here because this is what we are about. [39:46.480 --> 39:52.480] And primarily what we're about is the legal system. [39:52.480 --> 39:55.480] I would like your take on the legal system. [39:55.480 --> 40:05.480] I've done a couple of seminars up in Colorado and one of my primary focuses is the grand jury. [40:05.480 --> 40:20.480] And I often, when I talk about grand jurors and the statutes that define the grand juror's duties, I quote, Colorado's in taxes. [40:20.480 --> 40:23.480] The statute says it shall be the duty. [40:23.480 --> 40:37.480] The grand jury shall investigate into all criminal accusations that come of their own knowledge or by way of the prosecuting attorney or any credible person. [40:37.480 --> 40:51.480] But in Colorado, it says the grand jury shall investigate into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge by whatever means. [40:51.480 --> 40:54.480] And that leaves no wiggle room. [40:54.480 --> 40:55.480] Right. [40:55.480 --> 41:06.480] And what is your take on what we can do to get the legal system back in our hands? [41:06.480 --> 41:08.480] I think this is an excellent question. [41:08.480 --> 41:20.480] And I have been debating this for some time because in my heart of hearts, I feel like of all the branches of government, that's the one that is really broken that could actually do something really good for the American people. [41:20.480 --> 41:26.480] If we were able to infiltrate it, if that's the right word. [41:26.480 --> 41:37.480] But I think that for what I see and from where I'm at right now, I think opting out of the system is the only way to kind of fight it. [41:37.480 --> 41:47.480] And so for things that are happening, and I think I see them in Colorado every day, but things that seem to be unconstitutional in nature, [41:47.480 --> 41:54.480] I think we need to fight that by A, opting out of it, and when you opt out of it, you're essentially fighting that system. [41:54.480 --> 42:05.480] So, you know, I think there's some argument to be made on the licenses as far as like driver's licenses and being able to move oneself throughout the country. [42:05.480 --> 42:21.480] Well, that's something that I think is debatable, and I think people need to understand that when we pay or when we have to be able to go through the motions to have that license to be able to drive all of the associated things that come with it, [42:21.480 --> 42:35.480] including taxing to register your vehicle, including, you know, having to follow certain rules and guidelines, those are, it's a, it's a rabbit hole into what that opens you up to. [42:35.480 --> 42:43.480] And so, well, how can we, how can we, this is just one example with driving, but how can we as people take our power back? [42:43.480 --> 42:52.480] And, you know, I think that Michael, and I'm sure Michael's familiar with some other people as well, have actually fought this system. [42:52.480 --> 43:06.480] And what we need is to take that on a larger scale and have people questioning why we are following these rules and regulations and mandates and why we have to have these licenses. [43:06.480 --> 43:13.480] People, large amounts of people, we have to get that hundredth monkey. Large amounts of people have to start questioning this. [43:13.480 --> 43:20.480] And at the end of the day, there's more citizens than there are people dictating to us what to do. [43:20.480 --> 43:27.480] So if the citizens and the consumers choose, we win. There's more of us. [43:27.480 --> 43:39.480] Exactly. And we're about to, we're about to get Eddie on in the next segment and this is right up his alley because the thing is Tisha, the way that the law is actually written, [43:39.480 --> 43:47.480] it only applies to people who are engaged in commerce on the roadways, like people who are transporting goods or passengers for hire. [43:47.480 --> 43:55.480] Normal people do not need a driver's license at all, but they trick us into thinking that we do and when you actually read the law, it turns out that we don't. [43:55.480 --> 43:59.480] And so we need to take that into the court system. We'll be right back. [44:26.480 --> 44:34.480] Andrew Shaw's interview on KFOR TV was also told by ATF agents that they had been paged to not come into work. [44:34.480 --> 44:41.480] The ATF initially denied these claims and now variously claim that one of their agents was in a free falling elevator which has been disproven, [44:41.480 --> 44:45.480] or that they'd been in an all night stick out, or that they'd been in a golf tournament. [44:45.480 --> 44:55.480] As they try to sort out their lies, all we want to know is, did the ATF receive a warning and if so, why did they not pass it on to others in the middle of this? [44:55.480 --> 45:18.480] For more information, go to okcfoundandtruth.com. [45:26.480 --> 45:32.480] We urge our listeners to please visit us at hempusa.org. [45:32.480 --> 45:36.480] And remember, all of our products are chemical free and healthy to eat. [45:36.480 --> 45:41.480] We constantly strive to give you the best service, highest quality and rapid shipping anywhere. [45:41.480 --> 45:45.480] And we offer free shipping on orders over $95 in the U.S. [45:45.480 --> 45:54.480] Please visit us at hempusa.org or call 908-6912608. That's 908-6912608. [45:54.480 --> 46:19.480] See what our powder, seeds and oil can do for you at hempusa.org. [46:24.480 --> 46:39.480] We urge our listeners to please visit us at hempusa.org or call 908-6912608. That's 908-6912608. [46:39.480 --> 47:01.480] We urge our listeners to please visit us at hempusa.org. [47:01.480 --> 47:09.480] Okay, we are back. This is the Rule of Law, ruleoflawradio.com. We are here with Tisha Casada, [47:09.480 --> 47:14.480] running for Congress in the third congressional district of Colorado. [47:14.480 --> 47:19.480] We're also here with Mr. Michael Badnarek and Tisha, you couldn't be more correct. [47:19.480 --> 47:27.480] People need to start asking questions why, why this, why that and taking action and doing something about it. [47:27.480 --> 47:33.480] And as I was briefly mentioning before the break, once you start uncovering the answers, [47:33.480 --> 47:37.480] sometimes it's a real eye-opener just like with the transportation code. [47:37.480 --> 47:41.480] The bottom line is we don't have to have a driver's license if we're traveling [47:41.480 --> 47:46.480] and that's a well adjudicated issue in the Supreme Court, dozens of cases. [47:46.480 --> 47:51.480] The government does not have the authority to regulate or license travel [47:51.480 --> 47:55.480] and they've tricked us into thinking that we have to succumb to this. [47:55.480 --> 47:59.480] And so yes, you're absolutely right, Tisha. We have to start asking questions, finding the answers [47:59.480 --> 48:02.480] and taking action. You couldn't be more correct. [48:02.480 --> 48:07.480] And I wanted to ask you also about how you would deal with regulatory agencies. [48:07.480 --> 48:12.480] But before I go to that question, why don't you please give out your Web site again [48:12.480 --> 48:17.480] and how people can help you with your campaign and talk about the tour that you [48:17.480 --> 48:21.480] and Michael Badnarek have coming up. [48:21.480 --> 48:26.480] The Web site is Casada2012.com and you spell the last name. [48:26.480 --> 48:32.480] C is in Cat, A, S is in Sam, I, D is in Dog, A. So Casada2012.com. [48:32.480 --> 48:36.480] And Michael slides to Colorado tomorrow. [48:36.480 --> 48:42.480] We will be heading to Delta, Grand Junction, Gunnison, and Pueblo [48:42.480 --> 48:46.480] for various Bill of Rights classes that Michael will teach. [48:46.480 --> 48:51.480] And all of that's available on our Web site as well as Michael's Web site, [48:51.480 --> 48:56.480] which is constitutionpreservation.org or.com, Michael. [48:56.480 --> 48:57.480] Org. [48:57.480 --> 48:58.480] Org. [48:58.480 --> 48:59.480] Org. [48:59.480 --> 49:04.480] So constitutionpreservation.org, you can go to his projects tab and find exactly where the schedule is. [49:04.480 --> 49:10.480] And then we have our fundraiser. We end the tour with a fundraiser on the 19th [49:10.480 --> 49:15.480] and we'll actually have it at a restaurant here in Colorado, [49:15.480 --> 49:20.480] where we're going to also have something online so that people nationally can contribute [49:20.480 --> 49:22.480] if they're interested in that. [49:22.480 --> 49:26.480] And really what we're looking for is anybody who believes in liberty, [49:26.480 --> 49:28.480] we need you on our side. [49:28.480 --> 49:32.480] We need you to help spread the word about our campaign, [49:32.480 --> 49:35.480] whether it's through social media or if you're in Colorado, [49:35.480 --> 49:38.480] if you want to sign, if you want business cards to hand out. [49:38.480 --> 49:40.480] We're very grassroots. [49:40.480 --> 49:42.480] We're doing kind of a Ron Paul model. [49:42.480 --> 49:46.480] We're hoping to get lots of people donating between $5 and $25. [49:46.480 --> 49:48.480] It makes a huge difference. [49:48.480 --> 49:51.480] And that's how people can help. [49:51.480 --> 49:54.480] And we're hoping to inspire more people across the country. [49:54.480 --> 49:57.480] And I'm hoping to inspire other people to run for office, [49:57.480 --> 50:00.480] because we'll certainly be behind you. [50:00.480 --> 50:02.480] That sounds wonderful. [50:02.480 --> 50:09.480] Now, Tisha, you were speaking of last segment concerning the FDA [50:09.480 --> 50:14.480] and all these overbearing regulations about raw milk and this and that. [50:14.480 --> 50:16.480] And they want to tell us what we can and cannot eat. [50:16.480 --> 50:20.480] They want to require us to get permits and the like [50:20.480 --> 50:24.480] to even grow a garden in our own yard and on and on and on. [50:24.480 --> 50:26.480] And you were speaking about raining that kind of thing in. [50:26.480 --> 50:30.480] And I wanted to ask you, how would you do that? [50:30.480 --> 50:32.480] How do you think it's a good idea to do that? [50:32.480 --> 50:38.480] Because I've studied some of the laws that govern these regulatory agencies [50:38.480 --> 50:41.480] and basically Congress, through various acts, [50:41.480 --> 50:46.480] they have designated authority to these regulatory agencies [50:46.480 --> 50:52.480] to have regulatory power to come up with their own rules and regulations [50:52.480 --> 50:57.480] and stuff like that and to have the authority to enforce those rules. [50:57.480 --> 51:02.480] And it seems to me that most of the acts of Congress that have set up these agencies [51:02.480 --> 51:06.480] and granted them this authority, it's like they've just given them a blank check. [51:06.480 --> 51:08.480] And it's just completely out of control. [51:08.480 --> 51:13.480] And so I was wondering, what are your ideas on how to deal with that? [51:13.480 --> 51:18.480] I mean, should we just, like Ron Paul says, let's just abolish these entities altogether? [51:18.480 --> 51:23.480] Or would you go back and like maybe repeal some of these statutes that, [51:23.480 --> 51:27.480] because over the years they'll, Congress will go through and make amendments [51:27.480 --> 51:30.480] and grant them more and more and more authority. [51:30.480 --> 51:32.480] Would you start repealing some of that? [51:32.480 --> 51:42.480] Or would you propose new legislation to more kind of reign in these regulatory entities [51:42.480 --> 51:49.480] to where Congress has more oversight and where these entities have less authority, [51:49.480 --> 51:52.480] not so much of a blank check to just do whatever they want? [51:52.480 --> 51:55.480] What are your ideas on this matter? [51:55.480 --> 51:59.480] Well, I think one thing working for us is that we're broke. [51:59.480 --> 52:02.480] Like we really don't have any more money. [52:02.480 --> 52:09.480] So at some point they're not going to be able to continue all of these ludicrous rules and regulations. [52:09.480 --> 52:12.480] And at some point there will be no money for enforcement. [52:12.480 --> 52:14.480] So that's actually working on our side. [52:14.480 --> 52:20.480] So I think there's, and Michael and you guys can probably speak better to this than I can, [52:20.480 --> 52:28.480] but I think there is a very defined difference between law versus rules and regulations. [52:28.480 --> 52:32.480] And as far as attacking that and figuring out the best way, I think again, [52:32.480 --> 52:39.480] one of the easiest ways I think is for localities, whether it's in their own county [52:39.480 --> 52:47.480] or their own state, to nullify anything and just opt out altogether of anything that's unconstitutional. [52:47.480 --> 52:54.480] Then at a federal level, if it is unconstitutional, you know, I say abolish or get either, you know, [52:54.480 --> 52:57.480] nullify the legislation, get rid of the legislation. [52:57.480 --> 53:04.480] And for these agencies that are not performing and not actually having any type of productive result [53:04.480 --> 53:08.480] like you would want for a company, you know, for any company, [53:08.480 --> 53:12.480] you'd want to see it has some type of profitability and is working efficiently. [53:12.480 --> 53:17.480] Well, I can almost guarantee there's no government program happening right now [53:17.480 --> 53:19.480] that's either profitable or efficient. [53:19.480 --> 53:28.480] So those you can just end and then if you really want, if the people really want to still have some type of regulation [53:28.480 --> 53:33.480] or regulatory agency for something, well, then put them on a five-year timeline [53:33.480 --> 53:37.480] and have set goals and objectives for what they have to accomplish. [53:37.480 --> 53:42.480] And if they can't accomplish it, then, you know, have that sunset time well then you're done. [53:42.480 --> 53:44.480] And then something else can be created. [53:44.480 --> 53:50.480] But we can't have these agencies like you said, Deborah, that are basically right, they have a blank check [53:50.480 --> 53:52.480] for controlling people. [53:52.480 --> 53:54.480] And that's, it's out of control. [53:54.480 --> 54:01.480] And that is really what's causing a good portion of the economic stress in our country [54:01.480 --> 54:09.480] is the fact that small businesses can't operate because of insane rules, regulations, licenses, fees and taxes. [54:09.480 --> 54:18.480] Absolutely. I think those are great ideas, especially looking at the efficiency and the productivity of an entity like that. [54:18.480 --> 54:24.480] And in a situation like that, I think, you know, we may have to almost look at it in a reverse way [54:24.480 --> 54:31.480] because we can't just look at it from a revenue perspective because if we look at it in that sense, [54:31.480 --> 54:37.480] then people will say, oh, the Austin Municipal Police Department, they're a great business entity. [54:37.480 --> 54:40.480] Look at all the revenue they're generating. [54:40.480 --> 54:42.480] Yes, so that would do that. [54:42.480 --> 54:44.480] But I know what you mean by the productivity. [54:44.480 --> 54:46.480] It's like, what are they producing? [54:46.480 --> 54:53.480] How are they, the productivity should be in, are they protecting people's rights, their life, liberty and property? [54:53.480 --> 55:02.480] Or are they just running the small businessman out of business, so to speak, in order to protect Big Acra? [55:02.480 --> 55:03.480] Exactly. [55:03.480 --> 55:11.480] That's what's going on. All of these regulations are designed to put the small farmer out of business [55:11.480 --> 55:16.480] so that they don't compete with the Big Acra and the same thing with the pharmaceutical industry. [55:16.480 --> 55:22.480] So I think those are great ideas. [55:22.480 --> 55:27.480] Absolutely. We do have a caller on the line. Tisha, would you like to take a call? [55:27.480 --> 55:28.480] Sure. [55:28.480 --> 55:35.480] Okay, we've got Dan in Connecticut. Thank you for calling in. Dan, what is your question for Tisha Casada? [55:35.480 --> 55:40.480] Dan, don't start any trouble. [55:40.480 --> 55:52.480] During my first congressional campaign, you guys created a monster and hopefully Tisha will join me in that sort of fun. [55:52.480 --> 56:02.480] Yeah, this is actually my third congressional campaign. I just wanted to first thank you, Tisha, for stepping up. [56:02.480 --> 56:11.480] And I can say from experience that it will be infinitely easier for you this time around than it was for me the last two times. [56:11.480 --> 56:14.480] This is really the time to do it. [56:14.480 --> 56:17.480] Because of the sentiment you mean of people? [56:17.480 --> 56:23.480] Not just the sentiment, but because you would actually have answers to give people. [56:23.480 --> 56:28.480] You would actually be able to explain, hey, here's why you're unemployed. [56:28.480 --> 56:32.480] Hey, here's why banks are foreclosing on your home, things of that nature. [56:32.480 --> 56:35.480] And that's really what people are looking for. [56:35.480 --> 56:39.480] And I want to be brief, so I don't want to steal the show from you or anything. [56:39.480 --> 56:50.480] But I will also say this, you know, your presence on the scene and just hearing you, honestly, is music to my ears. [56:50.480 --> 56:57.480] We didn't introduce Dan. Dan is the chairman of the Libertarian Party for the State of Connecticut. [56:57.480 --> 56:59.480] This is Dan Real. [56:59.480 --> 57:04.480] Okay, okay. [57:04.480 --> 57:05.480] Very good. [57:05.480 --> 57:08.480] Sometimes we think of him as unreal. [57:08.480 --> 57:13.480] He was involved in a court battle over a ballot issue up in Connecticut. [57:13.480 --> 57:16.480] And so he is really in there fighting hard. [57:16.480 --> 57:18.480] We appreciate everything you do, Dan. [57:18.480 --> 57:26.480] I signed up for another round at it, you know, and believe it or not, thanks to the program here, [57:26.480 --> 57:30.480] I was actually able to take that fight to the Supreme Court pro say. [57:30.480 --> 57:32.480] And I'll just leave it at this. [57:32.480 --> 57:36.480] Tisha, if you ever need any help, don't hesitate to contact me. [57:36.480 --> 57:39.480] I know there's a lot of things that go into it. [57:39.480 --> 57:43.480] And be careful, the campaign will run you instead of you running the campaign. [57:43.480 --> 57:45.480] But otherwise, go out there. [57:45.480 --> 57:49.480] You will win every debate and go give them help. [57:49.480 --> 57:50.480] Thank you, Dan. [57:50.480 --> 57:52.480] Yeah, I would love to connect with you. [57:52.480 --> 57:53.480] That would be great. [57:53.480 --> 57:56.480] I'd like to kind of hear about what you've been through and then work with you a little bit. [57:56.480 --> 57:58.480] So let's connect. [57:58.480 --> 57:59.480] That'd be great. [57:59.480 --> 58:03.480] And thank you for your kind words. [58:03.480 --> 58:05.480] Thank you, Dan, for calling in. [58:05.480 --> 58:08.480] Okay, we are at the top of the hour break. [58:08.480 --> 58:14.480] Callers, if you would like to call in and ask Tisha or Michael Bannerik a question. [58:14.480 --> 58:19.480] The number to call is 512-646-1984. [58:19.480 --> 58:23.480] We do have guests tonight, so we're not taking calls on, you know, [58:23.480 --> 58:28.480] how to deal specifically with maybe your particular legal issue. [58:28.480 --> 58:32.480] But if you do want to speak with Michael Bannerik or Tisha Casada, [58:32.480 --> 58:40.480] if you have a question or comment, please feel free to call in 512-646-1984, [58:40.480 --> 58:42.480] and we'll be back after the news. [58:42.480 --> 59:03.480] The Bible remains the most popular book in the world. 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[01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.480] Philippa Moulgrim, a former economics advisor to George Bush, [01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:39.480] says Germany is printing Jewish marks in the event it opts out of the Euro. [01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:41.480] Moulgrim said recently, quote, [01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.480] my view is Germany will have to pull out of the Euro. [01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:50.480] Stefan Hamburg, head of Germany's Institute for Public Finance, told the UK Telegraph, quote, [01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.480] the Euro is nearing its ugly end. [01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:58.480] Adding a collapse of the monetary union now appears unavoidable. [01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.480] Occupy Wall Street got its confiscated generators back Tuesday [01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.480] after its legal team pressed New York City to release them. [01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.480] Police confiscated the generators which protesters were using [01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.480] to keep warm and power electronics two weeks ago ahead of a snowstorm. [01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.480] Their lawyers said there was no legal reason to have them taken in the first place. [01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.480] In the meantime, protesters used bicycle-powered generators. [01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:28.480] Nine years after he was captured, Abel Arim al-Nashiri was arraigned Wednesday [01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:34.480] on charges of murder, terrorism, and hijacking by a military commission at Guantanamo. [01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:41.480] Nashiri is accused of mastermining the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors. [01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.480] If convicted, he could face execution. [01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.480] Nashiri has been detained at Guantanamo since 2006. [01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:52.480] Before that, he was waterboarded by the CIA at a black site. [01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:59.480] CIA documents indicate he endured mock executions and had a power drill held to his head. [01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:04.480] Under new rules, no evidence gained by torture is admissible at military trials. [01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:08.480] During proceedings Wednesday, Nashiri's lead defense attorney, Richard Cameron, [01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.480] pressed Judge James Poll for his views on the death penalty. [01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.480] And here say evidence. Poll said he'd follow the law saying, quote, [01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.480] rules are rules. I'm a simple guy. [01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:24.480] The government has indicated it will keep Nashiri locked up regardless of the trial's outcome. [01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:29.480] A former CIA officer says Americans are in the crosshairs of terrorists worldwide [01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.480] due to Washington's policy in the Muslim world, [01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:37.480] not because of an Islamic enemy whose only aim is to kill Americans for their freedoms. [01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:44.480] Historian Michael Shaw, author of Through Our Enemies Eyes, a former chief of the CIA's bin Laden unit, [01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:50.480] says America's greatest enemy, radical Islam, never existed, even when bin Laden was alive. [01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:56.480] Shaw points out it's America's relationship with Israel that is causing this war on Islam. [01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:05.480] More details on this story. Visit INN.org before that. [01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:11.480] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com. [01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:15.480] Live free speech talk radio at its best. [01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:17.480] Okay, folks, we are back. [01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:44.480] Hour two tonight is Thursday, November 10th, 2011. [01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:50.480] And we are taking your calls for Michael Badmerick and Tisha Casada tonight [01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:55.480] who is running for Congressional District 3 in Colorado. [01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.480] And we have a few callers on the line right now. [01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.480] We've got Hannibal in New York. [01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.480] Hannibal, thank you for calling in. I understand you have a good report to give. [01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.480] What's going on? [01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:15.480] Well, thanks to you guys and all the information you guys give out about studying and learning the law. [01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:23.480] That's what I did. I beat New York City and come to court two times, had the cases thrown out, [01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.480] and then I filed one civil case against them. [01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.480] I'll be filing the next one next week. [01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:37.480] And I already have a court, not a court date, but they gave me a docket number [01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.480] and they will be assigning a judge to my case. [01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:48.480] So they will possibly hear my case in the Supreme Court against the NYPD and their stop and fritz practices. [01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:54.480] And I just want to thank you guys that now I'm going to be heard in the Supreme Court [01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:59.480] on behalf of the people here in New York who are mostly Hispanic and black, [01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:07.480] who get stopped 85% for stopping fritz and maybe less than 1% are found with anything. [01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:11.480] And I just like to thank you guys a whole lot for that. [01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:17.480] And I'd like to tell Mike Badnarik that don't ever be ashamed about that, [01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:23.480] a comment you made that if you come with a needle, let's see who will make a bigger hole. [01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:29.480] That's not one of the quotes I'm embarrassed about. [01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:33.480] That is awesome, Hannibal. [01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:41.480] Hannibal, I thought there was an ordinance in New York that made it illegal to be a person of color. [01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:49.480] Oh, come on. Hannibal, tell us about what is this stop and frisk for those of us who don't know what this is. [01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:54.480] We don't have this in Austin. Is this some sort of illegal search and seizure [01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:59.480] where they just stop people walking on the streets and search them, just grabbing them and searching them? [01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:08.480] Well, in my discovery, I'm going to find out what their procedure is and their policy behind it. [01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.480] But from what I found out and gathered information that I've gathered, [01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:16.480] is that most times they'll give a reason for stopping somebody and frisking them. [01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:26.480] Because they were making some kind of motion. [01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.480] Suspicious activity? [01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:34.480] Not suspicious, but I forgot the name they use exactly. [01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.480] But they use that as excuse to stop people and search them in New York City. [01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:43.480] And they try to do that to me and I told them they can't do that. [01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:49.480] Because you need probable cause. You need a warrant or you have to see me reach the peace. [01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:55.480] And the cop didn't understand what I was telling them. He was looking at me like I was crazy. [01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:01.480] And I just violated my rights. They roughed me up. [01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:07.480] They wrapped the handcuffs on like crazy tight. [01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:15.480] I went to the night in jail and the cop here maliciously kept trying to pop to me by. [01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.480] And they kept adjourning the dates all the time. [01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.480] They kept refusing to take the deal they offered. [01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:27.480] They never asked me to be guilty or not guilty. None of that. [01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:29.480] And I fought it all the way to the end. [01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:34.480] Only until I entered the motions in writing that the cases were actually dismissed. [01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:37.480] One and a half to a trial by three. [01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.480] That's excellent Hannibal. [01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:44.480] Now see, this is what we need more of folks. People taking action and making us stand. [01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.480] Standing up for what's right. Standing your ground. [01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:51.480] And look what happens. You win. We've been having more and more victories. [01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.480] Eddie Craig was just on Alex Jones today on his TV show and the radio show. [01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:03.480] He's been having every single person who has got Eddie Craig's traffic seminar course has won their case. [01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:07.480] My husband included. My husband just beat his traffic ticket case yesterday. [01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:10.480] He's going to be coming on and talking about that on Monday. [01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:14.480] And this is wonderful news. Do you have jurisdiction here Hannibal? [01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:15.480] No, I don't. [01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:20.480] Oh, if you're going to sue pro saying the civil court, you've got to get the jurisdictionary course. [01:08:20.480 --> 01:08:23.480] You could get that online on our website. [01:08:23.480 --> 01:08:26.480] You get that course. It's a 24 hour course. [01:08:26.480 --> 01:08:30.480] It teaches you step by step how to handle any civil lawsuit, [01:08:30.480 --> 01:08:34.480] the plaintiff or the defendant. And you've already had so much success. [01:08:34.480 --> 01:08:36.480] You could take the ball and run with that. [01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:42.480] Tisha, what do you think about Hannibal? What do you think about what he's doing in his success? [01:08:42.480 --> 01:08:49.480] I think he's fantastic. And I think that he's like he said, these are the stories that people need to hear about citizens [01:08:49.480 --> 01:08:54.480] standing up for their rights and doing the right thing and being an example for their community. [01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:58.480] So way to go and way to not be afraid and stand up. [01:08:58.480 --> 01:09:01.480] I think it's wonderful. Three cheers for Liberty. [01:09:01.480 --> 01:09:03.480] Three cheers for Liberty. Three cheers for Hannibal. [01:09:03.480 --> 01:09:12.480] And Hannibal, remember when you're going into the civil case, remember that a city ordinance can never trump over state law. [01:09:12.480 --> 01:09:18.480] And so if the state law says that they have to have probable cause in order to do a search, [01:09:18.480 --> 01:09:23.480] then the municipality can't just write an ordinance saying that they can just do these stop and frisk. [01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:26.480] So I'm looking forward to hearing more from you on this Hannibal. [01:09:26.480 --> 01:09:28.480] Yes, and I would like to know... [01:09:28.480 --> 01:09:31.480] I prayed the whole way, but I kept faith. [01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:33.480] I'm sorry, what was that Hannibal? [01:09:33.480 --> 01:09:38.480] I said I was afraid the whole way during the criminal trial and everything, [01:09:38.480 --> 01:09:44.480] but I kept faith in the Lord and distrusted what you guys told me in, and I won. [01:09:44.480 --> 01:09:50.480] Everybody was in court. Every day some people got locked up for the way I was talking to the judge and the prosecutors. [01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:56.480] And when they told me walk out of court every day, I would get passed on the back and like, cheers. [01:09:56.480 --> 01:10:03.480] That's excellent. Well, as far as being afraid about, you know, being afraid in a situation like that, Hannibal, [01:10:03.480 --> 01:10:06.480] you know, it happens to all of us, but you overcame it. [01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:14.480] And Michael, you had told me one time what at least one of your definitions of courage is regarding a fear. [01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:17.480] Can you tell us, share that with us, Michael? [01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:23.480] Yes, courage is doing it even though you are afraid. [01:10:23.480 --> 01:10:35.480] You know, all of us are afraid, but, you know, if you persevere and do it anyway, it is amazing how much success you will actually have. [01:10:35.480 --> 01:10:43.480] And these people are bullies, just like the bullies out in the playground, and you just can't let them intimidate you. [01:10:43.480 --> 01:10:49.480] You know, they're going to try to outnumber you, but, you know, we need to fight back. [01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:55.480] And it's people like your guests that make all this happen. [01:10:55.480 --> 01:11:10.480] Yes, you know, I'm a combat veteran, and I never feel like I know someone until I've seen them in a difficult situation. [01:11:10.480 --> 01:11:18.480] And exactly what Michael said, it's not brave to do something that you're not afraid to do. [01:11:18.480 --> 01:11:26.480] I look for those people who get in a situation that's difficult and handle it anyway. [01:11:26.480 --> 01:11:34.480] They get into a situation that frightens them or terrifies them, and they handle it anyway. [01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:38.480] That's the person I want to be standing behind. [01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:41.480] So I really appreciate you, Hannibal. [01:11:41.480 --> 01:11:42.480] You're awesome. [01:11:42.480 --> 01:11:51.480] You might ask the New York Police Department how many people they stop and frisk on Wall Street in suits and tubs. [01:11:51.480 --> 01:11:59.480] Yeah, that's a good point. How many of these banksters are getting stopped and frisked? [01:11:59.480 --> 01:12:06.480] So is being of color probable cause? Because that's certainly what it sounds like. [01:12:06.480 --> 01:12:10.480] Boy, it sounds to me like you've got a federal lawsuit on your hands, Hannibal. [01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:15.480] You might want to think about filing a civil rights lawsuit in federal court. [01:12:15.480 --> 01:12:16.480] I did. [01:12:16.480 --> 01:12:19.480] Oh, that's awesome. I thought you, okay, that's great. [01:12:19.480 --> 01:12:21.480] I'm waiting for a judge to be assigned to my case. [01:12:21.480 --> 01:12:25.480] Good for you. So you filed a federal suit, not just a state suit. [01:12:25.480 --> 01:12:31.480] Yeah, and I actually used a complaint that Randy had on his little site with the FARC. [01:12:31.480 --> 01:12:40.480] I just turned it into a civil complaint and had a couple of my other, my own kind of alterations to it and... [01:12:40.480 --> 01:12:46.480] Wait a minute. Are you telling me that you plagiarized my side? [01:12:46.480 --> 01:12:50.480] Have you plagiarized your creed? [01:12:50.480 --> 01:12:51.480] Good. [01:12:51.480 --> 01:12:59.480] All right. Well, listen, Hannibal, if you're going to go into federal court as a pro se litigant, [01:12:59.480 --> 01:13:05.480] you have got to get the jurisdictionary course right away so that you'll know how to handle the nuts and bolts of your case. [01:13:05.480 --> 01:13:06.480] Okay? [01:13:06.480 --> 01:13:08.480] Most definitely plan on. [01:13:08.480 --> 01:13:11.480] Okay, awesome. All right, Hannibal, good news. [01:13:11.480 --> 01:13:14.480] All right, we need to move on because we've got other callers on the board, [01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:16.480] but thank you for calling in and giving us the good news. [01:13:16.480 --> 01:13:17.480] Oh, thank you. [01:13:17.480 --> 01:13:18.480] Okay. [01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:19.480] Thank you very much. [01:13:19.480 --> 01:13:24.480] And if that case turns out the way I planned it to turn out, you guys will be getting a nice donation. [01:13:24.480 --> 01:13:25.480] Oh, that's sweet. [01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:26.480] Thank you. [01:13:26.480 --> 01:13:27.480] Good luck. [01:13:27.480 --> 01:13:31.480] Remember, think Randy's beer. [01:13:31.480 --> 01:13:33.480] Oh, good Lord. [01:13:33.480 --> 01:13:37.480] More like Randy's ginger ale fun. [01:13:37.480 --> 01:13:41.480] He's a lightweight, remember? [01:13:41.480 --> 01:13:42.480] Randy's back. [01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:44.480] I've been visiting the show for a minute. [01:13:44.480 --> 01:13:48.480] Yes, Randy's back. We got him back about a week and a half ago. [01:13:48.480 --> 01:13:50.480] That's awesome. That's awesome. [01:13:50.480 --> 01:13:55.480] I've been busy with, like, preparing case files and everything for the little case. [01:13:55.480 --> 01:14:00.480] Yep. But now notice, Randy didn't use his own paperwork to get back to us. [01:14:00.480 --> 01:14:03.480] No. Eddie wrote that. [01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:06.480] Okay. Well, Hannibal, thank you for calling in. [01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:07.480] All right. [01:14:07.480 --> 01:14:08.480] All right. [01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:09.480] Thank you. [01:14:09.480 --> 01:14:10.480] All right. Good night. [01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:11.480] Good night. [01:14:11.480 --> 01:14:13.480] Okay. We're going now to Barrett in Idaho. [01:14:13.480 --> 01:14:15.480] Barrett, thank you for calling in. [01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:19.480] What is your question or comment for Michael Badnarik or Tisha Casada? [01:14:19.480 --> 01:14:21.480] Yeah, Michael Badnarik. [01:14:21.480 --> 01:14:23.480] What's your name? [01:14:23.480 --> 01:14:28.480] I saw your presentation on It's Good to Be King. [01:14:28.480 --> 01:14:30.480] It was about three years ago. [01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:39.480] And I also saw your presentation about the money and the, you know, how it, you know, [01:14:39.480 --> 01:14:44.480] the evolution of the gold and silver to the paper, the fiat paper that you got. [01:14:44.480 --> 01:14:45.480] Right now. [01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:50.480] I try to explain it to people that there's nothing backing it. They don't get it. [01:14:50.480 --> 01:14:56.480] But if I tell it to them like this, it's paper and ink. [01:14:56.480 --> 01:15:02.480] You can't print gold and you cannot print or fake silver or gold. [01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:04.480] And it's hard to get. [01:15:04.480 --> 01:15:08.480] And it's like you said in your presentation about the money. [01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:15.480] If you lived in Texas and we had cow pies as the monetary fund, you know, [01:15:15.480 --> 01:15:19.480] you pick them up all day and it would just devalue it and, you know. [01:15:19.480 --> 01:15:25.480] But anyway, I wanted to, I just wanted you to elaborate on your, that book Good to Be King [01:15:25.480 --> 01:15:29.480] for just a minute or two and then I'll take it out there. [01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:30.480] Well, thank you. [01:15:30.480 --> 01:15:34.480] Good to Be King is the book that I've written on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. [01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:39.480] It is your introduction to the Constitution. [01:15:39.480 --> 01:15:45.480] It keeps it all really simple and basic and it's a starting point. [01:15:45.480 --> 01:15:50.480] Read my book first and then go off and continue learning. [01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:54.480] Everybody can memorize the Bill of Rights. [01:15:54.480 --> 01:16:01.480] And everybody can go to Casada2012.com to find out where Tisha and I are going to be this next week. [01:16:01.480 --> 01:16:05.480] And you can contribute money to her campaign. [01:16:05.480 --> 01:16:13.480] And when she wins, she will be fighting for your rights in Washington. [01:16:13.480 --> 01:16:15.480] All right, wonderful. [01:16:15.480 --> 01:16:20.480] Okay, we are going now to, well, no, we're about to go to break. [01:16:20.480 --> 01:16:24.480] Brian in Minnesota, we will pick you up on the other side of the break. [01:16:24.480 --> 01:16:29.480] Folks, if you would like to call in to ask Michael Badnarik or Tisha Casada a question, [01:16:29.480 --> 01:16:37.480] the call in number is 512-646-1984, 1984, just like the George Orwell. [01:16:37.480 --> 01:16:44.480] 512-646-1984, folks, it's a warning, not a blueprint. [01:16:44.480 --> 01:16:46.480] It's not a manual for the New World Order. [01:16:46.480 --> 01:16:48.480] It was a warning to us. [01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:50.480] So please give us a call. [01:16:50.480 --> 01:16:55.480] If you'd like to make a comment or ask Tisha or Michael a question or us, we'll be right back. [01:16:55.480 --> 01:16:58.480] 512-646-1984. [01:16:58.480 --> 01:17:08.480] It's the story of a lost city, lost opportunity, lost hope. [01:17:08.480 --> 01:17:12.480] A story of failed policies, failed leadership. [01:17:12.480 --> 01:17:20.480] A story of smooth talking politicians, games of he said, she said, rhetoric and division. [01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:26.480] One man has stood apart, stood strong and true. [01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:32.480] Voting against every tax increase, every unbalanced budget, every time. [01:17:32.480 --> 01:17:41.480] Standing up to the Washington Machine, guided by Principal Ron Paul, the one who will stop the spending. [01:17:41.480 --> 01:17:49.480] Save the dollar, create jobs, bring peace, the one who will restore liberty. [01:17:49.480 --> 01:17:56.480] Ron Paul, the one who can beat Obama and restore America now. [01:17:56.480 --> 01:17:59.480] I'm Ron Paul and I approve this message. [01:17:59.480 --> 01:18:05.480] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy, [01:18:05.480 --> 01:18:08.480] and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. [01:18:08.480 --> 01:18:11.480] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then. [01:18:11.480 --> 01:18:12.480] Brave New Books? [01:18:12.480 --> 01:18:17.480] Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex Jones, [01:18:17.480 --> 01:18:19.480] Ron Paul and G. Edward Griffin. [01:18:19.480 --> 01:18:23.480] They even stock inner food, Berkey products and Calvin Soaps. [01:18:23.480 --> 01:18:25.480] There's no way a place like that exists. [01:18:25.480 --> 01:18:27.480] Go check it out for yourself. [01:18:27.480 --> 01:18:31.480] It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT. [01:18:31.480 --> 01:18:35.480] Ah, by UT? There's never anywhere to park down there. [01:18:35.480 --> 01:18:41.480] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking facility, [01:18:41.480 --> 01:18:42.480] just behind the bookstore. [01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:46.480] It does exist, but when are they open? [01:18:46.480 --> 01:18:51.480] Monday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m., and 1 to 6 p.m. on Sundays. [01:18:51.480 --> 01:19:20.480] So get them a call at 512-480-2503 or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com. [01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:25.480] You're gonna be with that same old trick again. [01:19:25.480 --> 01:19:30.480] I was blindsided, but now I can see your face. [01:19:30.480 --> 01:19:35.480] You put the fear in my pockets, took the money from my head. [01:19:35.480 --> 01:19:44.480] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:19:44.480 --> 01:20:00.480] Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:20:00.480 --> 01:20:05.480] Ain't gonna drive me with that same old stuff. [01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:10.480] I get it now, but then I must have been out too much. [01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:14.480] Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling better. [01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:15.480] Okay, folks, we are back. [01:20:15.480 --> 01:20:18.480] Ain't gonna get me with that same old trick again. [01:20:18.480 --> 01:20:21.480] They're not gonna get us with that same old sucker punch again. [01:20:21.480 --> 01:20:23.480] We are on to them, folks. [01:20:23.480 --> 01:20:27.480] We're on to the big scam, the big lie, especially about the transportation code. [01:20:27.480 --> 01:20:29.480] We know that it doesn't apply to us. [01:20:29.480 --> 01:20:30.480] It has nothing to do with travel. [01:20:30.480 --> 01:20:32.480] It has everything to do with commerce. [01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:34.480] And we're gonna be discussing that a little bit more. [01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:37.480] Eddie has some updates for us. [01:20:37.480 --> 01:20:40.480] But first, we are going to go to your calls. [01:20:40.480 --> 01:20:43.480] We've got another caller on the line, Brian, in Minnesota. [01:20:43.480 --> 01:20:44.480] Brian, thank you for calling in. [01:20:44.480 --> 01:20:49.480] What is your question or comment for Michael Badenarek or Tisha? [01:20:49.480 --> 01:20:50.480] Yes. [01:20:50.480 --> 01:20:55.480] First off, I got to thank Michael Badenarek for his Constitution class. [01:20:55.480 --> 01:21:02.480] Because without that, you know, I like to say that I like to thank people with my actions and not my words. [01:21:02.480 --> 01:21:07.480] Since I have the opportunity to thank Mr. Michael Badenarek right now here in person, [01:21:07.480 --> 01:21:14.480] I'd like to thank you for your Constitutional class, as I wouldn't be doing now what I am without that. [01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:16.480] I wouldn't know rule of law. [01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:19.480] I don't know if I'd know rule of law radio without that. [01:21:19.480 --> 01:21:23.480] But when I first heard Alex Jones use the word sovereignty, [01:21:23.480 --> 01:21:27.480] and I was like, wait, why was I never taught what the meaning of this word was, [01:21:27.480 --> 01:21:31.480] and I started looking deeper into it, it led me to you. [01:21:31.480 --> 01:21:34.480] Thank you. [01:21:34.480 --> 01:21:35.480] My pleasure. [01:21:35.480 --> 01:21:40.480] You can thank me by donating to Tricia's campaign. [01:21:40.480 --> 01:21:42.480] Colorado? [01:21:42.480 --> 01:21:43.480] Yes. [01:21:43.480 --> 01:21:45.480] Absolutely. [01:21:45.480 --> 01:21:53.480] We're going to start the liberty there, and we're going to take it all the way across the country. [01:21:53.480 --> 01:21:59.480] Well, I'm not a man of a lot of Federal Reserve notes, but I do know some people in Colorado. [01:21:59.480 --> 01:22:05.480] Well, if you can tell all your friends in Colorado to come out to the Bill of Rights sessions, [01:22:05.480 --> 01:22:08.480] the Bill of Rights sessions are free. [01:22:08.480 --> 01:22:14.480] You know, after I'm done getting them fired up, I'm kind of like the intro band, [01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:23.480] and Tricia's the superstar, and she'll explain why the Bill of Rights is so important [01:22:23.480 --> 01:22:27.480] and how her campaign dovetails with that. [01:22:27.480 --> 01:22:34.480] So we're going to be doing the rock and roll tour all across Colorado. [01:22:34.480 --> 01:22:40.480] I'd like to have you up here in Minnesota, too. [01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:41.480] Okay. [01:22:41.480 --> 01:22:42.480] Welcome. [01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:48.480] I'm happy to teach my class anywhere people will listen. [01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:50.480] My question for you is this. [01:22:50.480 --> 01:22:57.480] This is kind of for all of y'all. I just kind of wanted to toss a ball up, and maybe y'all could talk on this, [01:22:57.480 --> 01:23:03.480] and this kind of fits with everyone that was talking before, which is, and this involves also a court case that I'm in right now. [01:23:03.480 --> 01:23:09.480] I've been researching this a little bit, and it comes down to what is reasonable regulation, [01:23:09.480 --> 01:23:14.480] and that seems to be the largest topic, especially focusing on your conversation tonight. [01:23:14.480 --> 01:23:21.480] And Debra, you summed it up very well by saying, you know, well, when they start to violate our life, liberty, and property, [01:23:21.480 --> 01:23:28.480] you know, to me as well, that's beyond a reasonable regulation, and they've defined this. [01:23:28.480 --> 01:23:38.480] I remember Mr. Benner, he talked about the general welfare versus the specific welfare in your constitutional class, [01:23:38.480 --> 01:23:45.480] and that seems to be like, you know, they just want to protect all of us who are in the funny money system. [01:23:45.480 --> 01:23:51.480] So I just want to see if y'all could talk on that, and I'll just listen. Thanks. [01:23:51.480 --> 01:23:58.480] First of all, I want to suggest there is no rational regulations. [01:23:58.480 --> 01:24:05.480] In any decision about your life, either you can make that decision, or the government can make the decision for you. [01:24:05.480 --> 01:24:10.480] And if you make the decision for yourself, well, there's a chance that you can make the wrong decision. [01:24:10.480 --> 01:24:16.480] If the government makes the decision for you, it's pretty much a guarantee they're going to make the wrong decision. [01:24:16.480 --> 01:24:27.480] So you are always, always, always better off making your own decisions. Do not let government make decisions for you. [01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:35.480] That is absolutely sage advice. [01:24:35.480 --> 01:24:40.480] Yeah, as long as they can put it, the non-most terrifying words in the English language, [01:24:40.480 --> 01:24:42.480] I'm from the government and I'm here to help. [01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:50.480] Yeah, and as far as reasonable regulation, I think that that phrase is an oxymoron. [01:24:50.480 --> 01:24:53.480] I don't think there is any such thing. [01:24:53.480 --> 01:25:00.480] I mean, yeah, the role of government is to protect our life, liberty, and property. [01:25:00.480 --> 01:25:04.480] And beyond that, everything is unreasonable. [01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:08.480] Government is not here to provide services. [01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:11.480] Okay, they're not here to take care of us. [01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:13.480] We don't have a right to services. [01:25:13.480 --> 01:25:16.480] We don't have a right to health care. [01:25:16.480 --> 01:25:27.480] All right, I know some people might say, oh, that sounds so cruel, but it's not because government is not fluffy, pretty, happy mommy. [01:25:27.480 --> 01:25:34.480] As Michael Badneric has always said, government is one thing, force. [01:25:34.480 --> 01:25:36.480] Okay, it's not pretty. [01:25:36.480 --> 01:25:37.480] It's not happy. [01:25:37.480 --> 01:25:38.480] It's not cute. [01:25:38.480 --> 01:25:39.480] It's not funny. [01:25:39.480 --> 01:25:48.480] Government is force, and the only reason we have government is to protect our life, liberty, and property, and that is it. [01:25:48.480 --> 01:25:59.480] And the only reason that I've talked to Michael Badneric about this before, why can we not have a completely anarchist system where people protect their own life, liberty, and property? [01:25:59.480 --> 01:26:03.480] And basically, it kind of boils down to the services issue. [01:26:03.480 --> 01:26:13.480] Michael has told me, and maybe Michael, you could expound on this, that the reason we are always going to default into a mode of government, at least for this foreseeable future, [01:26:13.480 --> 01:26:25.480] is because most people out there don't have the guts to do what it takes when the time comes to protect their own life, liberty, or property, i.e., to pull the trigger. [01:26:25.480 --> 01:26:36.480] Even people who are well trained in firearms, when it really comes time, would you pull the trigger to save your own life or to save someone else's life? [01:26:36.480 --> 01:26:49.480] Most people couldn't do that, and so what they will do is they will contract out the service of protecting their life, liberty, and property to an entity known as the government. [01:26:49.480 --> 01:27:03.480] People do it all the time, they hire private security, and so that's really the main and only reason why humanity will default into a mode of government for the foreseeable future. [01:27:03.480 --> 01:27:12.480] But people have to realize that anything beyond the protection of life, liberty, and property is not the role of government. [01:27:12.480 --> 01:27:22.480] So, you know, when I start getting into conversations with these liberals and these leftists and socialists, and, well, you know, we need to do this and we need to do that, [01:27:22.480 --> 01:27:27.480] and I'm like, well, first, let's get past square one. What do you think your role of government is? [01:27:27.480 --> 01:27:37.480] And until I can get somebody to agree with me on that one point that the government is only here to protect life, liberty, and property, the conversation doesn't go any further. [01:27:37.480 --> 01:27:45.480] I'm not going to talk about any of what you want government to do or what you think it should do until we get past that square one. [01:27:45.480 --> 01:27:48.480] And if somebody can't get past square one with me, conversation goes no further. [01:27:48.480 --> 01:27:54.480] So anyway, that's my rant. I'm sorry I didn't mean to digress. Michael, comments? [01:27:54.480 --> 01:28:04.480] I didn't think you were paying attention in class. Deborah, I'm very flattered. That was excellent. [01:28:04.480 --> 01:28:11.480] Yeah, that's absolutely correct. Tisha, do you have any comments? [01:28:11.480 --> 01:28:25.480] No, Deborah, I think you did a fantastic job of answering that. I think that as far as how far we've gone to one side of being so over-regulated that if you want to, you know, [01:28:25.480 --> 01:28:36.480] process will probably take some time of getting rid of those tentacles. And so I always tell people if nothing else, rules and regulations should come from states or localities versus the federal government, [01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:45.480] and that at least gets that particular part of the echelon of regulations gone. [01:28:45.480 --> 01:28:55.480] So if you can get it closer to home and closer to the people themselves so that they can see those rules and regulations and make decisions for their own locality, [01:28:55.480 --> 01:29:00.480] that at least is a little bit more sustainable than having the federal government dictate it. [01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:07.480] So as far as the process of getting rid of them, I really encourage people to completely abolish ones at the federal level, [01:29:07.480 --> 01:29:13.480] and then if there has to be some type of regulation focused at the state or county level. [01:29:13.480 --> 01:29:21.480] Absolutely, because, you know, I'm sorry, but I just don't need services provided to me at the end of the barrel of a gun, okay? [01:29:21.480 --> 01:29:34.480] And that's just where it boils down to. I don't need a gun pointed at me. You're going to buy my services, or I'm going to rob from you so that I can provide services to someone else. [01:29:34.480 --> 01:29:42.480] I'm sorry. That don't fly in my book. Collectivism, people who are into collectivism, shove it, okay? [01:29:42.480 --> 01:29:48.480] Shove it, collectivism, where the sun don't shine. I'm sorry. I just have to say it because I'm not going to accept... [01:29:48.480 --> 01:29:49.480] I'm sorry. [01:29:49.480 --> 01:29:50.480] I'm not going to... [01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:55.480] Okay, I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry because I'm not going to take your services at the point of a gun. That's just all there is to it. [01:29:55.480 --> 01:29:59.480] All right, we're going to take your calls and we get back on the other side. [01:29:59.480 --> 01:30:05.480] Top 10 reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing. Reason number 10. What is on the surveillance tapes? [01:30:05.480 --> 01:30:08.480] There were many video surveillance cameras that recorded the morning of the bombing. [01:30:08.480 --> 01:30:12.480] Yet the few of these that have been released do not show what transpired with the Ryder truck at the Murrow Building. [01:30:12.480 --> 01:30:20.480] Most recently, the government has claimed that all of the cameras that were in different buildings and maintained by different businesses were all having their tapes changed at the exact same time. [01:30:20.480 --> 01:30:21.480] 9.02 a.m. [01:30:21.480 --> 01:30:24.480] This is insulting to the memory of those who perish in the bombing. [01:30:24.480 --> 01:30:26.480] What is being hidden from us? 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[01:32:22.480 --> 01:32:51.480] Okay folks, we are back. [01:32:51.480 --> 01:32:53.480] The rule of law. [01:32:53.480 --> 01:33:03.480] Okay, we're speaking right now with Brian in Minnesota talking about what determines, designates reasonable regulation. [01:33:03.480 --> 01:33:08.480] And that may as well go off on a rant. Basically, the answer is nothing. [01:33:08.480 --> 01:33:16.480] And I was talking about before the break that I'm just not going to accept services at the end of a barrel of a gun. [01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:24.480] And then Michael says something about, yeah, basically, they're making us an offer we can't refuse. [01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:26.480] Well, I'm sorry. [01:33:26.480 --> 01:33:31.480] But you were saying that you were apologizing for your feelings and I said don't apologize. [01:33:31.480 --> 01:33:38.480] Right. It's like Pee Wee Herman in the Cheech and Cheong movie, I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. [01:33:38.480 --> 01:33:46.480] Folks, I'm actually not sorry. So I don't know if you guys hadn't seen that movie. It was just briefly. [01:33:46.480 --> 01:33:52.480] He took the money from Cheech and Cheong. He stole the money and he was actually lived in an insane asylum. [01:33:52.480 --> 01:33:56.480] So they went to get it back and they ended up, Cheech and Cheong ended up getting the money back. [01:33:56.480 --> 01:34:02.480] And then the governor of the asylum made Pee Wee Herman apologize for taking the money. [01:34:02.480 --> 01:34:09.480] He's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry. So anyway, we're not sorry. [01:34:09.480 --> 01:34:12.480] All right. Brian, does that answer your question? [01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:18.480] Well, kind of yes, kind of no. I mean, I understand where you're all coming from with reasonable regulation. [01:34:18.480 --> 01:34:24.480] And in that light, you know, I'm just trying to reverse kind of where we've brought in ourselves. [01:34:24.480 --> 01:34:32.480] And, you know, like, for instance, take something like a substance like steaks and meat, like butchered cows and stuff like that. [01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:44.480] And it's really not something that, you know, you could really get all of society to kind of go, well, this is unreasonable that they're regulating us this way. [01:34:44.480 --> 01:34:53.480] And I would just like the government to go, you know, OK, these people agreed to your regulation. I am not, you know, and this is unreasonable to be forcing your regulations on to me. [01:34:53.480 --> 01:34:57.480] Well, I don't even have a license in that, you know, in that arena anyway. [01:34:57.480 --> 01:35:06.480] Well, the thing to point out is that we are not a democracy. You know, we don't do things just because we vote on it. [01:35:06.480 --> 01:35:14.480] My rights are not up for a vote. And once you understand those principles, then it really doesn't matter. [01:35:14.480 --> 01:35:20.480] It's all based on private property. Who owns it and who gets to make the decisions? [01:35:20.480 --> 01:35:32.480] You know, just because I happen to like red, that's my favorite color, I can't, I don't have any authority to put it up to a vote and say, OK, how many people like to paint Deborah's living room red? [01:35:32.480 --> 01:35:38.480] And if I, you know, we get a unanimous vote, we'll let Deborah vote because it's a democracy. [01:35:38.480 --> 01:35:44.480] You know, she's going to be in real trouble because we're going to change the color of her living room. [01:35:44.480 --> 01:35:51.480] It's her living room. She's the only one that has any legitimate authority to decide what color it's going to be. [01:35:51.480 --> 01:35:56.480] Well, and I, and these are the great arguments that I want to bring into court. [01:35:56.480 --> 01:36:02.480] Could you talk about like bringing this argument into court that like, hey, we're a republic, not a democracy. [01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:06.480] I mean, that's the argument I want to bring into court. I want to say, you know, hey, this is the way it is. [01:36:06.480 --> 01:36:13.480] It's right here in the Constitution, even though they have case law saying, well, this is a democratic republic and stuff like that. [01:36:13.480 --> 01:36:18.480] Bring it. You know, you could probably hire me. I'll go anywhere to talk about liberty. [01:36:18.480 --> 01:36:24.480] Well, you have to file a lawsuit. So you have to, when you file a lawsuit, you can start raising these issues. [01:36:24.480 --> 01:36:33.480] And one thing, you know, that Eddie was mentioning today on Alex Jones' show is that concerning all these regulations, [01:36:33.480 --> 01:36:42.480] there is a difference between law and regulation. Congress passes law and then these bureaucratic agencies pass rules and regulations. [01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:54.480] But the rules and regulations that they pass and formulate have to be within the confines of the statute and they have to be within the confines of the Constitution. [01:36:54.480 --> 01:37:07.480] Okay. So if those rules and regulations are not within the confines of statute and Constitution, then they are null and void and we need to sue to have them struck down. [01:37:07.480 --> 01:37:13.480] Or if, you know, basically you have to have standing or if you never agreed to them, then you just don't abide by them. [01:37:13.480 --> 01:37:15.480] They don't apply to you, like you're saying, Brian. [01:37:15.480 --> 01:37:18.480] Yeah. Well, there's another aspect of that, too. [01:37:18.480 --> 01:37:26.480] Remember, every state also has its own Constitution that the law still must comply with within that state. [01:37:26.480 --> 01:37:37.480] Here in Texas, for instance, we have Article 3, Section 29-35. The legislature is the only entity that can pass law. [01:37:37.480 --> 01:37:43.480] Anything else is just a rule. And as a rule, it can only be directory. [01:37:43.480 --> 01:37:46.480] In other words, we would like you to do it this way. [01:37:46.480 --> 01:37:56.480] It cannot be mandatory because we did not authorize municipalities and counties to create law binding on the people. [01:37:56.480 --> 01:37:59.480] We limited that to the legislature only. [01:37:59.480 --> 01:38:07.480] People fail to look at their state Constitution in support of their federal rights and their state rights. [01:38:07.480 --> 01:38:17.480] And that's the argument. I'm bringing that argument with me, too, and I am filing a federal lawsuit here on this issue. [01:38:17.480 --> 01:38:20.480] And so, Mr. Badenick, you're suggesting it might take a little education of the court? [01:38:20.480 --> 01:38:23.480] Oh, it's always going to take education of the court. [01:38:23.480 --> 01:38:30.480] Supreme Court wouldn't recognize the Constitution if I wrapped it around a baseball bat and beat them with it. [01:38:30.480 --> 01:38:35.480] And that's one of my recurring dreams. [01:38:35.480 --> 01:38:40.480] Yeah, so would the judges be required to take notice of it if you delivered it that way? [01:38:40.480 --> 01:38:42.480] Yeah. [01:38:42.480 --> 01:38:46.480] Okay, Brian, thank you for the call. We need to move on because we've got other callers on the board. [01:38:46.480 --> 01:38:51.480] Okay, we're going now to Phil in Texas. Phil, thank you for calling in. [01:38:51.480 --> 01:38:54.480] What is your question for Michael Badenick or Tisha Casada? [01:38:54.480 --> 01:38:58.480] Pipelines and eminent domain are utility pipelines. [01:38:58.480 --> 01:39:06.480] When they come into your property and they go to the district court and they file papers, they go to the railroad commission, [01:39:06.480 --> 01:39:10.480] apply for a permit and basically take your property. [01:39:10.480 --> 01:39:21.480] Is there any recourse or anything you can really do other than accept a settlement on an appraiser? [01:39:21.480 --> 01:39:30.480] Supreme Court ruled on that recently. Here in Dallas, Fort Worth area, halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth, [01:39:30.480 --> 01:39:39.480] there is a rather large shopping mall and the owners of the mall wanted to extend the size of the mall [01:39:39.480 --> 01:39:47.480] and they went to the city to take the property from the people who didn't want to sell. [01:39:47.480 --> 01:39:53.480] They wanted to take it by eminent domain and the city agreed with them and took these people's property [01:39:53.480 --> 01:40:01.480] so that a shopping mall could increase the size of their mall that they took the issue all the way to the Supreme Court. [01:40:01.480 --> 01:40:09.480] And when the Supreme Court gave the ruling, we got a lot of people jumping up and down, waving their arms and all upset about it [01:40:09.480 --> 01:40:14.480] because the Supreme Court ruled against the homeowners. [01:40:14.480 --> 01:40:25.480] But what the Supreme Court said was, this is not a federal issue, this is a state issue [01:40:25.480 --> 01:40:32.480] and if you want to change this issue, you have to change it in the state legislature. [01:40:32.480 --> 01:40:38.480] You can't come to us to do it and I frankly applauded that decision [01:40:38.480 --> 01:40:45.480] because the federal government refused to preempt the state government [01:40:45.480 --> 01:40:53.480] and that's what their opinion said, you guys have to write these laws yourself, don't ask us to come in and do it. [01:40:53.480 --> 01:40:59.480] So right now the issue of eminent domain is strictly a state issue [01:40:59.480 --> 01:41:06.480] and the state has clearly said that they're more interested in collecting more taxes. [01:41:06.480 --> 01:41:13.480] So essentially we can take your property under eminent domain [01:41:13.480 --> 01:41:17.480] if it means generating more revenue for the state. [01:41:17.480 --> 01:41:19.480] Yeah, more collectivism. [01:41:19.480 --> 01:41:27.480] Yeah, so I don't like that and frankly I think we should push the legislation to change it. [01:41:27.480 --> 01:41:30.480] But that's how it is right now. [01:41:30.480 --> 01:41:35.480] So Tisha, how do you feel about this eminent domain issue? [01:41:35.480 --> 01:41:38.480] What would you do about this eminent domain issue? [01:41:38.480 --> 01:41:40.480] What kind of legislation would you propose or would you? [01:41:40.480 --> 01:41:42.480] What is your take on this matter? [01:41:42.480 --> 01:41:51.480] Well, it is a private property issue and I know there's something that's going on in Colorado that's similar in nature. [01:41:51.480 --> 01:41:58.480] It's called Pinyin Canyon and basically I think it's the federal government in this instance [01:41:58.480 --> 01:42:05.480] because the military has tried several times to take farming and ranching land and convert that [01:42:05.480 --> 01:42:10.480] into expanding their Pinyin Canyon maneuver site for Fort Carson. [01:42:10.480 --> 01:42:17.480] And this has been a very heated and contentious issue for the farmers and ranchers in our district. [01:42:17.480 --> 01:42:20.480] I think that I have to agree with Randy. [01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:27.480] I was unaware of that court case and I think that it's great that they're saying that it's up to the state to decide. [01:42:27.480 --> 01:42:33.480] But I think it's anything that is taken from you is no longer yours. [01:42:33.480 --> 01:42:39.480] And so of course that's a 100% violation of people's constitutional rights. [01:42:39.480 --> 01:42:46.480] So as far as protecting people's rights, I think that there's a lot of research that needs to be done at the federal level. [01:42:46.480 --> 01:42:54.480] As far as this is my question to people that I want people to ask themselves, if you pay taxes on it, do you really own it? [01:42:54.480 --> 01:43:02.480] And that's at the core of this issue with private property and something that I think we need to look at which is a whole another rabbit hole. [01:43:02.480 --> 01:43:08.480] But it's really important to protect the landowners and we have a lot of them in our district. [01:43:08.480 --> 01:43:15.480] And so I stand up for people who own property and we continue to do that in whatever capacity that we could. [01:43:15.480 --> 01:43:18.480] Absolutely. I think that that's great. [01:43:18.480 --> 01:43:21.480] Phil, we're about to go to break. Did you have anything else you wanted to add? [01:43:21.480 --> 01:43:28.480] Well, in other words, I have an interest in this as they air and maybe as the ownership. [01:43:28.480 --> 01:43:36.480] So in other words, I'm just saying what they do is they can put in, they'll get an easement and they can sell their easement to someone else. [01:43:36.480 --> 01:43:41.480] Well, Phil, listen, it sounds like we need to spend more time with you on this issue. [01:43:41.480 --> 01:43:45.480] Can you call so that we can help you specifically with your situation? [01:43:45.480 --> 01:43:47.480] Can you call back in tomorrow night? [01:43:47.480 --> 01:43:48.480] Yes. [01:43:48.480 --> 01:43:55.480] Okay, great, because we have our four hour info marathon on Friday night and we'll be able to spend more time with the callers then. [01:43:55.480 --> 01:43:59.480] We'll be right back after this break. [01:43:59.480 --> 01:44:03.480] Hey, did you hear? Ron Paul has announced he's running for president in 2012. [01:44:03.480 --> 01:44:04.480] Is it Ron Paul? [01:44:04.480 --> 01:44:10.480] Really? Okay, put down the cell phone for one minute. Your friends really don't care about your Twitter updates on what you had for breakfast. [01:44:10.480 --> 01:44:13.480] Oh, but I love to make those little smiley faces with punctuation marks. [01:44:13.480 --> 01:44:14.480] Of course you do. [01:44:14.480 --> 01:44:20.480] Now listen closely, you need to go down to Brave New Books and learn as much as you can about Ron Paul and his message before it's too late. [01:44:20.480 --> 01:44:22.480] They have all of his books and many of the books he talks about. [01:44:22.480 --> 01:44:27.480] They also have t-shirts, bumper stickers and yard signs so that you can show your support for him during the campaign. [01:44:27.480 --> 01:44:30.480] Brave New Books? Do they have Harry Potter and Twilight? [01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:36.480] No, but they do carry a large selection of survival and preparedness books to protect your family in time of emergency. [01:44:36.480 --> 01:44:39.480] Ugh, this sounds like that show in the Discovery Channel. [01:44:39.480 --> 01:44:46.480] Yeah, there's even a wilderness survival expert that teaches classes called Earthskill School that you can sign up for on the website BraveNewBookstore.com. [01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:47.480] What are you doing? 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[01:47:18.480 --> 01:47:25.480] For those of you who don't know what Three Shoes Posse means, we are the posse that gives the bad guys three shoes. [01:47:25.480 --> 01:47:28.480] Two on their feet and one you know where. [01:47:28.480 --> 01:47:32.480] And if they're really bad, we'll just skip the two on their feet and they just get the one. [01:47:32.480 --> 01:47:35.480] Okay, so moving on from that now. [01:47:35.480 --> 01:47:41.480] Let's go back to our guests, Tisha, Cassida, and Michael Badnarek. [01:47:41.480 --> 01:47:49.480] Tisha, why don't you guys plug the website again and talk about the tour and how people can participate? [01:47:49.480 --> 01:47:50.480] Okay. [01:47:50.480 --> 01:48:02.480] The website again is cassida2012.com and Cassida is C as in cat, A as in Sam, I, D as in dog, A. Cassida2012.com. [01:48:02.480 --> 01:48:17.480] And Michael Badnarek is flying to Colorado tomorrow to teach Bill of Rights classes all across Colorado, including in Delta, Colorado, Gunnison, Grand Junction, and Pueblo. [01:48:17.480 --> 01:48:26.480] You can find the schedule on our website or Michael's website, which is constitutionpreservation.org. [01:48:26.480 --> 01:48:32.480] And people can participate by signing up for our email list. [01:48:32.480 --> 01:48:34.480] You can sign up for many more in the country. [01:48:34.480 --> 01:48:36.480] We're a national campaign. [01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:39.480] We're looking for Liberty lovers all across the country. [01:48:39.480 --> 01:48:52.480] And people, if they're not here in Colorado and they want to do something for the cause, throwing $5 to $10 at our campaign is a significant drop in the bucket because we're as grassroots as we can get. [01:48:52.480 --> 01:48:55.480] So we appreciate anything people can send our way. [01:48:55.480 --> 01:49:07.480] We're looking for Liberty and trying to empower people with information to do what Deborah and Randy are doing as far as educating and empowering and trying to make a difference for people. [01:49:07.480 --> 01:49:08.480] Excellent. [01:49:08.480 --> 01:49:16.480] And folks, even if you're not in Colorado, please contribute to the campaign because if we can get Tisha into office, it will benefit all of us. [01:49:16.480 --> 01:49:17.480] Absolutely. [01:49:17.480 --> 01:49:30.480] So Tisha, why don't you go a little bit more into your platform in this final segment and talk about some of the other issues that you feel are most important and how you intend to accomplish the goals at the federal level? [01:49:30.480 --> 01:49:36.480] You can find the platform a little bit more extended on the website. [01:49:36.480 --> 01:49:39.480] And really, it seeks the taproot of the problems. [01:49:39.480 --> 01:49:51.480] One of my irritations is that we have millions of Americans that understand that there are deep underlying problems and people are suffering. [01:49:51.480 --> 01:50:02.480] And instead of spending time talking about these problems and complaining about them, it's very important that we step up and actually do something. [01:50:02.480 --> 01:50:11.480] So when I develop the platform, it really seeks to strike the taproot of what I believe is causing a lot of our economic chaos. [01:50:11.480 --> 01:50:13.480] And that's the Federal Reserve. [01:50:13.480 --> 01:50:15.480] I think that it should be completely transparent. [01:50:15.480 --> 01:50:21.480] And upon that happening, I believe that we'll see the need to abolish it in its entirety. [01:50:21.480 --> 01:50:33.480] To replace it, I think that states need to step up and develop state banks that way it's closer to their own communities, and that's something that Michael and I will be talking about and working on when he comes to Colorado. [01:50:33.480 --> 01:50:39.480] And that's a much more efficient means of having a currency that's worth something. [01:50:39.480 --> 01:50:46.480] And North Dakota actually has a banking model that people can look into, and I'm hoping that Colorado will step up and do the same. [01:50:46.480 --> 01:50:51.480] So that's kind of the currency aspect, and then the other things have to do with the Constitution. [01:50:51.480 --> 01:51:00.480] And basically we have a whole bunch of federal agencies that are out of control that are causing a lot of harm for small business owners. [01:51:00.480 --> 01:51:07.480] With our platform, it's our intention to get rid of the federal agencies that are causing these problems. [01:51:07.480 --> 01:51:18.480] And again, empower local and state agencies that are able to better affect and better reach the needs of their localities and their constituencies. [01:51:18.480 --> 01:51:26.480] So that's kind of the broad overview, things that I'm really focused on are food supply, our energy supply, and our currency. [01:51:26.480 --> 01:51:35.480] And I think that those three things, since they're the basis of any type of commerce, should be really held close to people in their own states. [01:51:35.480 --> 01:51:46.480] And these regulations and rules, fees, licenses, and taxes at the federal level are out of control, and we need to attack those and attack them now. [01:51:46.480 --> 01:51:49.480] Absolutely. It's just fantastic. [01:51:49.480 --> 01:51:57.480] A very liberty-minded platform, and I don't see how anybody could go wrong. [01:51:57.480 --> 01:52:07.480] Yeah, some people would say it's extreme and radical, but I tell people that the root of the word radical in Latin actually needs to go back to your roots. [01:52:07.480 --> 01:52:21.480] And I come from an agricultural background, and I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to exercise one's liberties and to be able to live the quote-unquote American dream and create some type of prosperity. [01:52:21.480 --> 01:52:27.480] And that has really not become the norm and is so far away from people's graphs right now. [01:52:27.480 --> 01:52:38.480] And I'm a normal working young woman, and I see people on the streets, I see people my age on the streets, and there's something really, really wrong. [01:52:38.480 --> 01:52:42.480] And we need to stand up, do the right thing, and fix it. [01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:48.480] And it's going to take time, and it'll be hard, but we have no choice if we want to live in a free country. [01:52:48.480 --> 01:52:56.480] And really, we're the beacon of light for the world, so I think this is important for all humanity to stand up for liberty. [01:52:56.480 --> 01:53:01.480] Well, Tisha, what inspired you to want to run for Congress? [01:53:01.480 --> 01:53:05.480] Most of it was the frustration with our own local government. [01:53:05.480 --> 01:53:26.480] I had done a farmers market through our small business, and I'll just say it, the Pueblo City County Health Department, Pueblo Regional Building, and the Pueblo City Sales Tax had different rules and regulations for my privately run market than the city run market that was funded by taxpayer money. [01:53:26.480 --> 01:53:43.480] So these additional rules, regulations, licenses, fees cost my company an additional, it was about $2,000, not to mention the additional headaches of having to go and jump through all of these hoops to be able to even put on the farmers market. [01:53:43.480 --> 01:53:48.480] Then they drove away several of my potential customers coming from across the state. [01:53:48.480 --> 01:54:05.480] So that hurt me economically as well as city sales tax revenues. I outlined these differences. I put everything in writing, and I sent it to my city council, the city manager, and county commissioners, and I did not have one response from any of them. [01:54:05.480 --> 01:54:23.480] And I said, I'm a young entrepreneur. I'm trying to be a light for Pueblo. I'm trying to help. You guys are drowning me. Please explain this. Nobody explained it to me. And I thought, this is just a microcosm of how broken our government is. It's ridiculous. [01:54:23.480 --> 01:54:41.480] Yes, it absolutely is totally ridiculous. And, you know, that they have different standards for the government run markets as opposed to a privately run market. And they're absolutely just taxing and licensing the small business owner into bankruptcy. [01:54:41.480 --> 01:54:43.480] That's right. [01:54:43.480 --> 01:54:51.480] That's exactly right. That's what they're doing. And that's why we're seeing a lot of the problems with the economy. [01:54:51.480 --> 01:55:01.480] I mean, every city and county is just a small microcosm of the federal economy, the whole national economy. [01:55:01.480 --> 01:55:11.480] So, you know, you just take all of these little stories, and I have hundreds of them from talking with small business owners. You take every one of those and you multiply it. [01:55:11.480 --> 01:55:23.480] And that is what's causing these problems with our country, between that and what's happening with the currency and the fact that it's being devalued because so much money is being pumped into our system. [01:55:23.480 --> 01:55:37.480] Absolutely. Inflation is out of control. And I think also when you were talking about the market, the farmers market and the different standards, we see this across the board at the federal level too, [01:55:37.480 --> 01:55:48.480] especially with the Obamacare. You know, McDonald's doesn't have to supply health care benefits for their employees, but the small business owner does. [01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:58.480] And so it's just a completely ridiculous situation. And the other ridiculous situation is all these private public partnerships because that's just blatant fascism in your face. [01:55:58.480 --> 01:56:05.480] And then the taxpayer money goes to pay to fund the capital for these businesses. It's just absolutely ridiculous. [01:56:05.480 --> 01:56:07.480] Right. It's corrupt. [01:56:07.480 --> 01:56:19.480] So we've only got a couple of minutes left here in the program. I don't know if we're going to have time to take any more calls, but Michael, do you have any closing thoughts that you want to give us? [01:56:19.480 --> 01:56:29.480] Yeah. We are winning. Liberty is in our grasp. The American people have finally started to wake up. [01:56:29.480 --> 01:56:44.480] This is the time to jump on the bandwagon and make everything work. And I mean, I've been trying to do this for the last 30 years and was almost at the point where I had almost given up. [01:56:44.480 --> 01:56:52.480] And I want to thank Tisha for rekindling my fires and giving me a sense of hope. [01:56:52.480 --> 01:57:09.480] I really do admire her enthusiasm. And again, I know that somewhere, somewhere there is going to be a Liberty candidate who breaks through and it's going to be the first domino in a long series. [01:57:09.480 --> 01:57:16.480] And she has me convinced that it's her campaign. So I'm going to Colorado, even though I don't like snow. [01:57:16.480 --> 01:57:33.480] We're going to talk about the Bill of Rights and we're going to get the people of District 3 fired up and then she will be a role model for all these other young Americans who want to run for office in the following election. [01:57:33.480 --> 01:57:45.480] Yeah, Tisha, I've got a motto message for you that might work and this will go on in any state. There is nothing wrong with a politician that a tall tree and a short rope can't fix. [01:57:45.480 --> 01:57:55.480] And Michael knows how to tie the knot. Absolutely. Thanks, Eddie. [01:57:55.480 --> 01:57:59.480] Glad to be in service. It's just the way I am, a real helpful kind of guy. [01:57:59.480 --> 01:58:03.480] We'll consider that for key shirts. [01:58:03.480 --> 01:58:11.480] Alright, we're at the end of our show. I'm sorry we didn't have time to take any more calls, but tomorrow night, folks, we have a four hour Friday info marathon. [01:58:11.480 --> 01:58:16.480] There's plenty of calls. Tisha, give out your website one more time. [01:58:16.480 --> 01:58:23.480] It's Casada2012.com or you can just Google Tisha-Casada and it should come up. [01:58:23.480 --> 01:58:30.480] And folks, please contribute. Rule of Law Radio endorses Tisha-Casada. And Michael, your website? [01:58:30.480 --> 01:58:35.480] Constitutionpreservation.org. Go to the new projects menu. [01:58:35.480 --> 01:58:43.480] Excellent. Alright, folks, thank you for joining us tonight. We'll be back tomorrow night for a four hour Friday info marathon. [01:58:43.480 --> 01:59:09.480] Everyone, God bless and good night. [01:59:13.480 --> 01:59:23.480] God bless and good night. [01:59:43.480 --> 01:59:59.480] Thank you.