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[00:04.440 --> 00:09.320]  Aerial Communications Commissioner Meredith Atwell Baker will be departing the agency in June
[00:09.320 --> 00:16.040]  to take a job with Comcast NBC, whose multi-billion dollar merger she approved just four months ago.
[00:16.040 --> 00:20.760]  Craig Aaron of Free Press said, this is just the latest, most blatant example
[00:20.760 --> 00:25.400]  of a so-called public servant cashing in at a company she's supposed to be regulating.
[00:25.400 --> 00:32.000]  NATO airstrikes hit Muammar Qaddafi's compound Thursday, hours after the Libyan leader appeared
[00:32.000 --> 00:37.600]  on television for the first time since NATO bombs killed one of his sons two weeks ago.
[00:37.600 --> 00:41.600]  Qaddafi is still clinging to power despite weeks of NATO strikes.
[00:41.600 --> 00:46.320]  The conflict is stalemated with Qaddafi in control of most of the west of the country
[00:46.320 --> 00:47.640]  and the rebels the east.
[00:47.640 --> 00:54.640]  The New Statesman revealed Wednesday Wikileaks founder Julian Assange now makes associates sign
[00:54.640 --> 00:59.920]  a draconian non-disclosure agreement that among other things asserts the organization's trove
[00:59.920 --> 01:03.560]  of leaked material is, quote, solely the property of Wikileaks.
[01:03.560 --> 01:09.120]  The confidentiality agreement imposes a penalty of $20 million on anyone responsible
[01:09.120 --> 01:12.520]  for a significant leak of the organization's unpublished material.
[01:12.520 --> 01:19.000]  The U.S. government has opened a grand jury hearing into Wikileaks, the start of a process
[01:19.000 --> 01:24.560]  to decide whether to prosecute the website and its founder Julian Assange for espionage.
[01:24.560 --> 01:28.080]  The first session of the grand jury has already begun in Alexandria,
[01:28.080 --> 01:34.200]  Virginia with the testimony of an unidentified Boston man's subpoena to appear before the panel.
[01:34.200 --> 01:39.640]  The terms of the subpoena first revealed by blogger Glenn Greenwald indicated the jury had
[01:39.640 --> 01:43.360]  been convened to consider whether to approve the prosecution of Assange
[01:43.360 --> 01:46.000]  and Wikileaks under the Espionage Act.
[01:46.000 --> 01:50.360]  The subpoena also reveals the grand jury is considering approving a prosecution
[01:50.360 --> 01:56.440]  for, quote, knowingly stealing or converting any record or thing of value of the United States.
[01:56.440 --> 02:01.080]  That appears to refer to Private Bradley Manning currently facing court martial
[02:01.080 --> 02:03.320]  as the source of Wikileaks documents.
[02:03.320 --> 02:09.240]  Amid growing calls for U.S. special operations forces to take the lead in Afghanistan
[02:09.240 --> 02:14.360]  after the raid against Osama bin Laden, a new report has warned systemic failures
[02:14.360 --> 02:19.200]  in gathering military intelligence are leading to civilian casualties during raids.
[02:19.200 --> 02:23.240]  The study focuses on an airstrike last September by U.S. special forces,
[02:23.240 --> 02:29.240]  which local villagers, the Afghan government and Western researchers believe killed 10 civilians.
[02:29.240 --> 02:32.160]  NATO says it hit a Taliban commander in the attack.
[02:32.160 --> 02:37.160]  Kate Clark of the Afghanistan Analyst Network in Kabul, who authored the case study,
[02:37.160 --> 02:41.520]  says the military failed to verify its intelligence by talking to local people
[02:41.520 --> 02:43.360]  or watching TV election coverage.
[02:43.360 --> 02:49.360]  Special forces believe Zabit Amrunala was an alias used by a Taliban commander they were targeting.
[02:49.360 --> 02:54.160]  After the strike, Clark tracked down the Taliban commander special forces claim to have hit,
[02:54.160 --> 02:57.920]  writing, he is alive and well and has been interviewed in Pakistan.
[02:57.920 --> 03:08.640]  For more details on this story, visit INN World Record.net.
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[04:01.240 --> 04:28.560]  All right, bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when they come for you,
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[04:34.480 --> 04:40.800]  It is Thursday, May 12th, 2011, it's a Thursday evening
[04:40.800 --> 04:46.080]  and I do have some more updates concerning House Bill 1937.
[04:46.080 --> 04:56.200]  This is the House Bill written authored by David Simpson that has approximately 89 co-authors,
[04:56.200 --> 05:02.840]  which is well over half of the House, almost two-thirds of the House.
[05:02.840 --> 05:09.600]  And last weekend on Monday I was encouraging our listeners to contact the Speaker of the House
[05:09.600 --> 05:13.760]  and the Chair of the Calendars Committee to find
[05:13.760 --> 05:17.080]  out why this bill has not been scheduled on the calendar.
[05:17.080 --> 05:21.640]  It turns out apparently, I don't know, like I said, I don't know if this was coincidence
[05:21.640 --> 05:28.120]  or what, but I got an email on Friday from a listener saying that late Thursday night
[05:28.120 --> 05:31.640]  after our show, again, I don't know if it's coincidence or not,
[05:31.640 --> 05:37.320]  but apparently there was some communication between David Simpson and the Governor Rick Perry
[05:37.320 --> 05:43.400]  that the Governor has agreed to sign into law 1937 and 1938.
[05:43.400 --> 05:50.440]  Again, 1937 is the TSA bill which would prohibit offensive touching
[05:50.440 --> 05:55.560]  by any public servant that includes state and federal without probable cause.
[05:55.560 --> 06:00.400]  In other words, they can't touch your private parts as a regular means
[06:00.400 --> 06:05.000]  of security protocol unless there's probable cause that there's been a crime committed.
[06:05.000 --> 06:10.440]  And this is a very good bill because this applies across the board to feds and state actors
[06:10.440 --> 06:12.600]  and municipal actors alike.
[06:12.600 --> 06:16.440]  Well, at any rate, so that was confirmed late Thursday night.
[06:16.440 --> 06:23.080]  I don't know if it's because we had discussed what my house rep had told me which was
[06:23.080 --> 06:26.680]  that indeed the Governor was against it, so who knows.
[06:26.680 --> 06:32.360]  Maybe there was some misinformation given to my house rep's aide that told me
[06:32.360 --> 06:38.320]  or maybe we actually did some good on the air and pressured the Governor into supporting it.
[06:38.320 --> 06:38.760]  I don't know.
[06:38.760 --> 06:44.200]  At either way, there was good news that the Governor indeed supported the bill.
[06:44.200 --> 06:47.640]  Well, now it turns out that, and who knows,
[06:47.640 --> 06:51.240]  listeners could be because of you calling, writing.
[06:51.240 --> 06:53.240]  I would like to think that we had an effect.
[06:53.240 --> 06:58.360]  Come Tuesday morning after us mentioning this on the air a third time,
[06:58.360 --> 07:03.880]  it turns out they actually have scheduled the bill to be heard on the house floor.
[07:03.880 --> 07:07.040]  It was scheduled for yesterday, May 11th.
[07:07.040 --> 07:09.360]  They put it on the calendar on the 10th.
[07:09.360 --> 07:11.840]  They put it on the calendar on Tuesday.
[07:11.840 --> 07:16.960]  They scheduled it for yesterday, but they didn't get to it and so they moved it to today
[07:16.960 --> 07:18.760]  and we don't know if we're going to get to it or not.
[07:18.760 --> 07:19.920]  They're very, very busy.
[07:19.920 --> 07:23.240]  They have a huge calendar in the house, so it is on the calendar.
[07:23.240 --> 07:26.680]  Hopefully they'll be hearing it either today, if not tonight,
[07:26.680 --> 07:30.760]  then likely they will be hearing it tomorrow and, of course, we all know what's going
[07:30.760 --> 07:33.840]  to happen because more than half the house is already signed on.
[07:33.840 --> 07:36.920]  That's probably why they pushed it towards, they're pushing it towards the end
[07:36.920 --> 07:38.720]  because they already know it's going to pass.
[07:38.720 --> 07:43.560]  So, at any rate, that is the good news for House Bill 1937 and now we just need
[07:43.560 --> 07:50.160]  to get House Bill 1938 on that calendar and, honestly, 1937 is much more important
[07:50.160 --> 07:56.720]  because in case folks haven't made the connection yet, which most folks have,
[07:56.720 --> 08:02.840]  this issue of the offensive touching and groping, TSA never tried to do this
[08:02.840 --> 08:05.800]  until they implemented the body scanners.
[08:05.800 --> 08:09.960]  All right, once they put the body scanners in place, then it was like, oh, well,
[08:09.960 --> 08:11.440]  you don't want to go through the body scanners?
[08:11.440 --> 08:13.760]  Well, now we're going to sexually molest you.
[08:13.760 --> 08:18.600]  All right, so obviously this was just put in place as a means to force people
[08:18.600 --> 08:25.240]  into the body scanners so that they could, so that the government can collect everyone's genetic,
[08:25.240 --> 08:34.240]  biometric information and so if we get the 1937 passed, then really 1938,
[08:34.240 --> 08:37.640]  which would prohibit the scanners, that's just kind of like icing on the cake
[08:37.640 --> 08:41.960]  because the whole point is that even if they have the scanners there,
[08:41.960 --> 08:48.720]  all you have to do is say, I'm not going through them and if there's no retaliation,
[08:48.720 --> 08:52.240]  oh, you're not going through them, okay, well, then just go through the melody sector
[08:52.240 --> 08:55.280]  and then it doesn't really matter if they have the scanners there or not.
[08:55.280 --> 08:56.800]  Just don't go through them.
[08:56.800 --> 09:00.400]  You know, the only problem with the scanners really of saying, no,
[09:00.400 --> 09:03.640]  you don't want to go through them is that you would have to subject yourself
[09:03.640 --> 09:08.840]  to this molestation, so House Bill 1937 really is much more important because even
[09:08.840 --> 09:14.360]  if we get the scanners pulled and we have to subject ourselves to molestation,
[09:14.360 --> 09:18.960]  well, that is certainly egregious, so 1937 is the most important bill,
[09:18.960 --> 09:21.240]  so we are glad that that one is getting pushed through first.
[09:21.240 --> 09:24.760]  So I just wanted to give the listeners the good news and I want to thank everyone
[09:24.760 --> 09:28.760]  out there who made phone calls, emails, faxes, et cetera, et cetera,
[09:28.760 --> 09:32.840]  to pressure to get this bill put on the calendar.
[09:32.840 --> 09:38.600]  So that is all the news I have for this evening and I will keep the listeners updated
[09:38.600 --> 09:42.000]  as this bill continues along its path.
[09:42.000 --> 09:46.280]  So Eddie, you had some announcements for tonight as well.
[09:46.280 --> 09:50.480]  Is Eddie there?
[09:50.480 --> 09:53.640]  I think we put him to sleep.
[09:53.640 --> 09:55.120]  Okay, all right, here we go.
[09:55.120 --> 10:00.080]  I'm here, but yeah, I was actually reading up some more on the stuff that I was looking at.
[10:00.080 --> 10:04.720]  I got a phone call today and it got me to thinking about some things
[10:04.720 --> 10:09.720]  and we have heard all this talk about how the government,
[10:09.720 --> 10:15.360]  when someone has to post a bail bond, what happens to that money?
[10:15.360 --> 10:16.840]  Does it just sit there?
[10:16.840 --> 10:17.960]  Do they hang on to it?
[10:17.960 --> 10:19.880]  What do they do with it?
[10:19.880 --> 10:25.280]  Well, of course, everybody is insisting that they trade it.
[10:25.280 --> 10:29.840]  The question becomes based upon the stuff that I have been reading this afternoon is
[10:29.840 --> 10:36.240]  whether or not it's considered to be an unregistered instrument at that point
[10:36.240 --> 10:37.920]  or it's a registered instrument.
[10:37.920 --> 10:42.320]  If it's unregistered, they can't trade it for six months.
[10:42.320 --> 10:47.880]  If it's registered, they can start trading it right away.
[10:47.880 --> 10:51.240]  Now, this got me to thinking.
[10:51.240 --> 10:54.240]  The bond is posted prior to a conviction.
[10:54.240 --> 10:57.520]  It's posted before even being tried.
[10:57.520 --> 11:06.600]  You haven't been convicted of anything, but they've taken property from you.
[11:06.600 --> 11:13.960]  Now, they're taking your property and they are using it for the public benefit.
[11:13.960 --> 11:19.320]  In other words, they're trading it on the stock market with the purpose of gaining
[11:19.320 --> 11:25.280]  from that investment on that money.
[11:25.280 --> 11:31.560]  But after you go to court, your case is dismissed or you show up, you know,
[11:31.560 --> 11:34.800]  however all that works, if they don't keep it for the fines and fees
[11:34.800 --> 11:38.440]  and then pay you the difference, if it's just a bail bond,
[11:38.440 --> 11:46.160]  they're required to refund that to you when you make your appearance for trial.
[11:46.160 --> 11:52.000]  But you only get back what you gave them and right now they've even got it set up
[11:52.000 --> 11:58.080]  where they still keep 5% of it even if they have to give it back to you.
[11:58.080 --> 12:04.280]  So the system is geared to make use of your money and still make a profit off of it.
[12:04.280 --> 12:11.120]  So if they charge you a $30,000 bond, they're going to keep 5% of that when they refund it.
[12:11.120 --> 12:17.080]  Even though you didn't ask to be there and they forced you to put the money up
[12:17.080 --> 12:23.440]  or sit and rot in jail, they're going to keep that money.
[12:23.440 --> 12:27.280]  But here's the problem as I see it.
[12:27.280 --> 12:31.680]  They're using private property for public use.
[12:31.680 --> 12:35.080]  You're not getting compensated for that public use.
[12:35.080 --> 12:42.200]  In fact, you're actually losing money because of that public use.
[12:42.200 --> 12:49.440]  How does them taking your money, investing it in these stocks and bond markets
[12:49.440 --> 12:56.600]  and not paying you a single penny of the interest that it draws for them
[12:56.600 --> 13:01.840]  not violate the constitutional requirement of compensation
[13:01.840 --> 13:04.920]  when taking private property for public use?
[13:04.920 --> 13:12.160]  And where do they get authority to invest your money anywhere?
[13:12.160 --> 13:16.360]  Precisely.
[13:16.360 --> 13:21.320]  Assuming every investment incurs a certain amount of risk,
[13:21.320 --> 13:28.160]  where do they get authority to risk your money in an investment scheme?
[13:28.160 --> 13:34.480]  Since public officials may only do what they're specifically authorized to do,
[13:34.480 --> 13:36.080]  I'd like to know who does that.
[13:36.080 --> 13:39.360]  Yeah, the Constitution didn't authorize them to take public funds
[13:39.360 --> 13:42.840]  and trade it on the open market.
[13:42.840 --> 13:51.040]  Who actually puts the bond up for as a security?
[13:51.040 --> 13:53.080]  Who actually does that?
[13:53.080 --> 13:57.960]  Well, it's either the individual, his sureties, or it's a bondsman.
[13:57.960 --> 13:58.720]  No, no, no.
[13:58.720 --> 14:07.600]  Who is the one who takes the amounts paid and turns it into security and trades it?
[14:07.600 --> 14:11.160]  I think it works pretty much according to what I'm reading, Randy.
[14:11.160 --> 14:14.960]  They treat them as mortgage-backed securities.
[14:14.960 --> 14:19.720]  They trade them exactly the same way as a mortgage-backed security.
[14:19.720 --> 14:22.960]  Who is they?
[14:22.960 --> 14:24.600]  Who's the person who actually...
[14:24.600 --> 14:30.440]  There is a particular company, Fidelity Investments.
[14:30.440 --> 14:35.920]  They are by far the largest of these types of traders.
[14:35.920 --> 14:42.400]  I'm looking for the public official who transfers the custodianship of the funds
[14:42.400 --> 14:47.680]  from the state to some commercial entity.
[14:47.680 --> 14:51.680]  Well, but you're presuming that actually has to occur.
[14:51.680 --> 14:55.680]  The stock market does not result in an actual exchange of goods.
[14:55.680 --> 14:59.800]  Even the stock market does not result in an actual exchange of goods.
[14:59.800 --> 15:03.320]  Someone has to sign a contract.
[15:03.320 --> 15:03.880]  Yes, someone.
[15:03.880 --> 15:06.760]  It doesn't do this magically all by itself.
[15:06.760 --> 15:11.720]  There's got to be a name on there somewhere.
[15:11.720 --> 15:14.280]  I myself would like the answer to that question.
[15:14.280 --> 15:16.600]  I don't know who is authorizing it.
[15:16.600 --> 15:22.040]  That's one of the questions to be answered as can be found.
[15:22.040 --> 15:28.480]  But in this particular case, my concern is the constitutional tort it creates
[15:28.480 --> 15:31.080]  by taking your private property.
[15:31.080 --> 15:32.320]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[15:32.320 --> 15:39.560]  If they're trading this as a mortgage-backed security,
[15:39.560 --> 15:44.360]  the sale of that security instrument has to be registered with the county
[15:44.360 --> 15:49.800]  recorder, must be a public sale.
[15:49.800 --> 15:53.160]  And I think all of these securities tradings have to be public.
[15:53.160 --> 15:54.840]  Yeah, but we know that doesn't always happen.
[15:54.840 --> 15:56.840]  Look at MERS.
[15:56.840 --> 15:59.640]  I know it doesn't happen, but yeah, look at MERS.
[15:59.640 --> 16:03.520]  They're getting their butts kicked away from Sunday.
[16:03.520 --> 16:04.200]  That's right.
[16:04.200 --> 16:08.480]  So we'd like to visit some of that same retribution on whoever
[16:08.480 --> 16:14.520]  is trading with our dollars.
[16:14.520 --> 16:17.160]  Well, I would agree.
[16:17.160 --> 16:18.680]  That'll be some interesting research.
[16:22.520 --> 16:24.720]  But that's really what I've got.
[16:24.720 --> 16:25.800]  That's what I was looking at.
[16:25.800 --> 16:32.600]  I wanted to ask that question of does anyone besides me see this as a violation
[16:32.600 --> 16:37.160]  of the constitutional prohibition on taking private property for public use
[16:37.160 --> 16:39.840]  without just compensation?
[16:39.840 --> 16:43.080]  Yeah, that sounds like conversion.
[16:43.080 --> 16:45.600]  Conversion is private property.
[16:45.600 --> 16:47.360]  Well, we've got Tim from Texas on the line.
[16:47.360 --> 16:48.880]  Maybe he's got some answers for us.
[16:48.880 --> 16:51.240]  When we come back, we'll take Tim.
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[20:13.360 --> 20:42.360]  All right, folks, we are back. This is the rule of law. Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens. We've got Tim from Texas on the line. Tim, you have some questions about bonds. And do you have any comments on what Eddie was saying?
[20:42.360 --> 20:55.360]  Yeah, I kind of wanted to go too little bit of distance. And based on what you're saying, how is it that you think that this is linked to fidelity?
[20:55.360 --> 21:05.360]  Well, the research I was doing just brought them up as being the largest trader in these types of bonds.
[21:05.360 --> 21:18.360]  Okay. And do you have any way of looking at that? How do you think that they're dealing in these types of bonds specifically?
[21:18.360 --> 21:39.360]  Well, if you go to the Fidelity Investment website and you put in a district court case number, then it will pull up information related to that case, including a QCIP number that would have to be attached if there was a bond.
[21:39.360 --> 21:50.360]  Okay. And when you go to Fidelity.com, is that where you went?
[21:50.360 --> 21:52.360]  Fidelity Investments.
[21:52.360 --> 21:56.360]  Fidelity Investments. There's a Fidelity.com, which has a district.
[21:56.360 --> 21:58.360]  Yeah, and it's Fidelity.com.
[21:58.360 --> 22:03.360]  Okay. And you went to research, and then where else?
[22:03.360 --> 22:07.360]  No, I haven't gone to research. I've gone to quotes.
[22:07.360 --> 22:14.360]  Yeah. And that's where you enter the ticker symbols on the website.
[22:14.360 --> 22:19.360]  Okay. And then you put in a case or in whatever the digits are, right?
[22:19.360 --> 22:20.360]  Right.
[22:20.360 --> 22:24.360]  Okay. So when you put that in there, then it returns some kind of a fund?
[22:24.360 --> 22:30.360]  It returns information if there's anything attached to that number in an account.
[22:30.360 --> 22:40.360]  Okay. There's a couple of issues with that.
[22:40.360 --> 22:47.360]  I don't believe that the case number is actually linked directly to a mutual fund.
[22:47.360 --> 22:51.360]  These are listing mutual funds, right, at Fidelity's bank.
[22:51.360 --> 22:56.360]  Well, like I say, these are traded as mortgage-backed securities.
[22:56.360 --> 23:03.360]  But there would still have to be a way to link, if there is a bond that is actually being traded,
[23:03.360 --> 23:10.360]  there has to be a way to link that bond back to its entry into the system.
[23:10.360 --> 23:14.360]  And its entry into the system would be the court case,
[23:14.360 --> 23:19.360]  because that's where the bond would have originated was through the court case.
[23:19.360 --> 23:26.360]  Okay. So you're saying that by going into the quotes and trying to put in a case number,
[23:26.360 --> 23:32.360]  that's when it returns a fund?
[23:32.360 --> 23:37.360]  I'm not saying it will return the fund. It will return information.
[23:37.360 --> 23:42.360]  If there's any search that matches that number, it will pull it back up.
[23:42.360 --> 23:45.360]  I haven't been able to go into it into detail as to drill down
[23:45.360 --> 23:49.360]  and to see what all kinds of information it returns.
[23:49.360 --> 23:54.360]  But I am looking at an active example using a number that was given,
[23:54.360 --> 23:59.360]  and it pulled up a district court case, and it pulled up the bond that's attached to it,
[23:59.360 --> 24:05.360]  and it pulled up the CUSIP number that's attached to that bond.
[24:05.360 --> 24:09.360]  Okay. All right. I don't want to take up any more time hashing this out on the air,
[24:09.360 --> 24:15.360]  but could you send me something that you would use so I can look into that as well?
[24:15.360 --> 24:18.360]  Yeah. I'll send you the article that I was reading on it.
[24:18.360 --> 24:23.360]  Okay. All right. I appreciate it.
[24:23.360 --> 24:24.360]  Thanks. Bye-bye.
[24:24.360 --> 24:29.360]  Yep. Bye-bye.
[24:29.360 --> 24:36.360]  Okay. We've got Samuel from Texas now with a question about open records being denied.
[24:36.360 --> 24:40.360]  I had some e-mail correspondence from Samuel earlier today on this issue.
[24:40.360 --> 24:42.360]  Samuel, thank you for calling in.
[24:42.360 --> 24:46.360]  So tell us what's going on about you went to pull someone's file.
[24:46.360 --> 24:48.360]  Was this here in Austin?
[24:48.360 --> 24:52.360]  No, ma'am. It was actually in River Oaks, Fort Worth.
[24:52.360 --> 24:55.360]  River Oaks and Fort Worth. Okay. Tell us the story.
[24:55.360 --> 25:00.360]  Well, I was going in to check up on the records to see if they got a citation,
[25:00.360 --> 25:02.360]  my sister and my mom, which they did.
[25:02.360 --> 25:07.360]  But I was denied access to them on the premise that they were confidential.
[25:07.360 --> 25:10.360]  Now, you went to the court, the court, Clark?
[25:10.360 --> 25:14.360]  It was a municipal court in River Oaks.
[25:14.360 --> 25:16.360]  And you wanted to pull the traffic ticket files,
[25:16.360 --> 25:20.360]  and they said it was confidential and they weren't open records?
[25:20.360 --> 25:23.360]  Yes, ma'am. And then I called the Tarrant County Municipal Court,
[25:23.360 --> 25:25.360]  and they said it was open records.
[25:25.360 --> 25:28.360]  So then I called them back, and they still said it's different municipalities,
[25:28.360 --> 25:30.360]  and that doesn't apply to them.
[25:30.360 --> 25:37.360]  You should call 911, get a policeman out there to take your criminal complaint,
[25:37.360 --> 25:45.360]  accusing the clerk of violating 1.29 Code of Criminal Procedure,
[25:45.360 --> 25:51.360]  which says all courts shall be public.
[25:51.360 --> 25:55.360]  That is not hard to understand.
[25:55.360 --> 25:59.360]  So she's right when she says it doesn't fall under open records.
[25:59.360 --> 26:01.360]  She is a municipal court,
[26:01.360 --> 26:09.360]  and it falls under Government Code 27004, Government Code,
[26:09.360 --> 26:15.360]  that bypasses the ability of a municipal or justice court
[26:15.360 --> 26:18.360]  to demand a written request for records.
[26:18.360 --> 26:21.360]  They must make their records open for public inspection
[26:21.360 --> 26:24.360]  by all interested parties at all reasonable times,
[26:24.360 --> 26:27.360]  and interested parties are defined by the attorney general
[26:27.360 --> 26:31.360]  as any member of the public, reasonable times as normal business hours.
[26:31.360 --> 26:35.360]  They don't get 10 days, they don't get 10 minutes.
[26:35.360 --> 26:39.360]  You need to file criminal charges against the clerk.
[26:39.360 --> 26:40.360]  And there was two of them.
[26:40.360 --> 26:43.360]  Did you file against both of them?
[26:43.360 --> 26:46.360]  If they cooperated, absolutely.
[26:46.360 --> 26:49.360]  Yeah, you need to have those statute numbers that Randy just said.
[26:49.360 --> 26:53.360]  Government Code was it 27.004?
[26:53.360 --> 26:57.360]  Code of Criminal Procedure 1.29, yes.
[26:57.360 --> 27:01.360]  See, courts don't fall under open records because they're already public.
[27:01.360 --> 27:03.360]  That's why.
[27:03.360 --> 27:07.360]  They have to have all of their records available for inspection
[27:07.360 --> 27:11.360]  at all times during business hours to any member of the public.
[27:11.360 --> 27:12.360]  That's what the statute says.
[27:12.360 --> 27:17.360]  If they won't let you do it, what I would do is I would show them the statute.
[27:17.360 --> 27:20.360]  I would print it out, and I would show the clerk the statute,
[27:20.360 --> 27:23.360]  and then I would call 911.
[27:23.360 --> 27:27.360]  And Randy would say no, but the reason that I personally would do that,
[27:27.360 --> 27:30.360]  this is just a personal decision on my point.
[27:30.360 --> 27:36.360]  I would like to see if there's any way that I could personally try to sway
[27:36.360 --> 27:39.360]  or pressure the clerk to hand over the records
[27:39.360 --> 27:43.360]  without me having to get the police involved and make a big scene.
[27:43.360 --> 27:45.360]  But I think Randy just enjoys that sort of thing,
[27:45.360 --> 27:48.360]  and so he would just call 911 immediately.
[27:48.360 --> 27:50.360]  I kind of do.
[27:50.360 --> 27:55.360]  It's a lot more fun giving the statutes to the police officer
[27:55.360 --> 27:57.360]  that you're trying to get to arrest the clerk.
[27:57.360 --> 27:59.360]  You get their attention a whole lot better.
[27:59.360 --> 28:03.360]  It depends on how much time you have to spend and what the goal is.
[28:03.360 --> 28:09.360]  For me, my goal would be I want to get in and out of there as quickly as possible
[28:09.360 --> 28:14.360]  with the least amount of effort and the least amount of brouhaha scene
[28:14.360 --> 28:16.360]  to get what I want.
[28:16.360 --> 28:18.360]  But for Randy, this is a form of entertainment.
[28:18.360 --> 28:22.360]  So it's just entirely up to you if you want to present the statute to the clerk first.
[28:22.360 --> 28:24.360]  Like I said, personally, I would.
[28:24.360 --> 28:30.360]  And actually, I think it would be an even stronger criminal case if I did that,
[28:30.360 --> 28:35.360]  because then I would have personal knowledge, no question about it.
[28:35.360 --> 28:39.360]  This clerk of the court absolutely knew what the law is
[28:39.360 --> 28:45.360]  because I showed it to her or him, and he still willfully disobeyed the law.
[28:45.360 --> 28:48.360]  And of course, they're required to know the law anyway,
[28:48.360 --> 28:52.360]  but that's even stronger evidence that, hey, this person knew the law,
[28:52.360 --> 28:55.360]  I showed it to him, and then I would call 911.
[28:55.360 --> 28:57.360]  But it's up to you.
[28:57.360 --> 28:59.360]  Thank you very much.
[28:59.360 --> 29:02.360]  Now, you may want to call the security first.
[29:02.360 --> 29:05.360]  Sometimes Randy asks for security, sometimes he calls 911.
[29:05.360 --> 29:06.360]  I don't know.
[29:06.360 --> 29:09.360]  It's entirely up to you.
[29:09.360 --> 29:13.360]  If you go back, take security with you.
[29:13.360 --> 29:16.360]  I mean, you know, when you go in, ask for a bailiff,
[29:16.360 --> 29:19.360]  and tell the bailiff that you're going to ask the clerk
[29:19.360 --> 29:23.360]  for some records that she failed to provide earlier,
[29:23.360 --> 29:27.360]  and you have the law that shows that she must.
[29:27.360 --> 29:31.360]  And when you ask her for it and she refuses to give it,
[29:31.360 --> 29:34.360]  you're going to want the bailiff to arrest the clerk.
[29:34.360 --> 29:38.360]  And then the bailiff is likely to do a real song and dance
[29:38.360 --> 29:40.360]  to keep him having to do that.
[29:40.360 --> 29:43.360]  You want to tell the clerk, don't mess with this guy,
[29:43.360 --> 29:45.360]  and that'll make it go easier,
[29:45.360 --> 29:48.360]  and it also keeps them from calling security on you.
[29:48.360 --> 29:51.360]  This is Randy Kelton, W. Stevens, Eddie Craig,
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[32:19.360 --> 32:21.360]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[32:21.360 --> 32:27.360]  We've got Samuel from Texas on the line being denied court records.
[32:27.360 --> 32:32.360]  So Samuel, I think, you know, Randy, I think Samuel should go back
[32:32.360 --> 32:34.360]  and try to get copies of those records again with,
[32:34.360 --> 32:37.360]  and this time have a personal recording device.
[32:37.360 --> 32:43.360]  And, Randy, you want to give Samuel the rundown again of what he should do?
[32:43.360 --> 32:49.360]  And have copies of the statutes printed out and everything?
[32:49.360 --> 32:56.360]  Especially if you go back, they're very likely to call security on you.
[32:56.360 --> 33:02.360]  And when they call security on you, they give security a bunch of crapola.
[33:02.360 --> 33:06.360]  So if I suspect that they're likely to try to pull that nonsense,
[33:06.360 --> 33:09.360]  I go to security first.
[33:09.360 --> 33:13.360]  Here at the Capitol Building, I went to the appeals court to see some records,
[33:13.360 --> 33:16.360]  and he said that they weren't open for public inspection.
[33:16.360 --> 33:19.360]  Well, I hadn't done my homework on that particular court,
[33:19.360 --> 33:24.360]  so I went back and did my homework, found out he lied to me, came back.
[33:24.360 --> 33:27.360]  And when you walk in the Capitol Building over where the Supreme Court
[33:27.360 --> 33:30.360]  and the Court of Criminal Appeals is, there's a security guy there.
[33:30.360 --> 33:33.360]  And I asked him, are you a certified police officer?
[33:33.360 --> 33:34.360]  And he said, no, I'm not.
[33:34.360 --> 33:36.360]  Get me one.
[33:36.360 --> 33:37.360]  Well, why do you need one?
[33:37.360 --> 33:38.360]  None of your business.
[33:38.360 --> 33:41.360]  I need a certified police officer.
[33:41.360 --> 33:42.360]  Get one.
[33:42.360 --> 33:43.360]  Okay, okay.
[33:43.360 --> 33:46.360]  So he calls a certified police officer.
[33:46.360 --> 33:49.360]  And DPS guy comes over, and he said, what can I do for you?
[33:49.360 --> 33:52.360]  I said, I'm going to go to the clerk of the Court of Criminal Appeals
[33:52.360 --> 33:54.360]  and ask for some records.
[33:54.360 --> 33:58.360]  I did that yesterday, and he told me that they weren't open for public inspection.
[33:58.360 --> 34:01.360]  I have the law that says they are.
[34:01.360 --> 34:05.360]  When he tells me I can't see them, I'm going to expect you to arrest him.
[34:05.360 --> 34:10.360]  And he said, well, I can't arrest the clerk, but you sure can.
[34:10.360 --> 34:13.360]  If he does that, he commits an act of official oppression
[34:13.360 --> 34:16.360]  in violation of 3903 penal code.
[34:16.360 --> 34:21.360]  And that he denies me the full free access to or enjoyment of a right.
[34:21.360 --> 34:23.360]  And I have to give this guy credit.
[34:23.360 --> 34:28.360]  He thought a minute, and he said, well, let's go.
[34:28.360 --> 34:33.360]  I went down there, and he's got a little hole in his glass.
[34:33.360 --> 34:38.360]  And I walked up there and told him who I was,
[34:38.360 --> 34:41.360]  what I want to see, what's the records I wanted to see.
[34:41.360 --> 34:45.360]  And the guy looked past me at the DPS officer.
[34:45.360 --> 34:50.360]  And he's moved up to the hole, and he said, sir, can I help you?
[34:50.360 --> 34:54.360]  And I leaned down and said, he's with me.
[34:54.360 --> 34:58.360]  And all of a sudden, the records became open for public inspection.
[34:58.360 --> 35:01.360]  What do you know?
[35:01.360 --> 35:06.360]  Well, Randy, the DPS officer was correct.
[35:06.360 --> 35:11.360]  The administrative code specifically forbids DPS officers
[35:11.360 --> 35:17.360]  from investigating any public servant without approval of the director.
[35:17.360 --> 35:23.360]  Except in this case, he has a specific duty as security for the courthouse,
[35:23.360 --> 35:25.360]  for the Capitol building.
[35:25.360 --> 35:30.360]  And in his capacity as a security officer, he darn sure can.
[35:30.360 --> 35:33.360]  Now, Randy, let me ask you something.
[35:33.360 --> 35:36.360]  All of a sudden, magically somehow,
[35:36.360 --> 35:42.360]  these records became open for public inspection pursuant to law,
[35:42.360 --> 35:48.360]  whereas before they weren't just because you had the DPS officer accompanying you.
[35:48.360 --> 35:54.360]  I mean, do you think that these court clerks are being directed
[35:54.360 --> 36:00.360]  by some kind of overriding policy telling them to deny the open access,
[36:00.360 --> 36:02.360]  public access to these records?
[36:02.360 --> 36:06.360]  Or do you think this is just pure laziness on the part of...
[36:06.360 --> 36:09.360]  I mean, is somebody telling these clerks to do this?
[36:09.360 --> 36:11.360]  Is this a general policy?
[36:11.360 --> 36:18.360]  Or what is the deal here that they would feel the need to do such a thing?
[36:18.360 --> 36:23.360]  It is the general policy set by the magistrate presiding over the board.
[36:23.360 --> 36:25.360]  I'll tell you that right now.
[36:25.360 --> 36:32.360]  It may be, but it is so inconsistent that one court will release it, the other won't.
[36:32.360 --> 36:37.360]  I think half the time it's just the clerk forgets who they are,
[36:37.360 --> 36:40.360]  and they're used to telling people what to do and ordering them around.
[36:40.360 --> 36:44.360]  And the clerk doesn't want to bother, so he just sends people packing.
[36:44.360 --> 36:47.360]  That's what they tried to do in Randall County.
[36:47.360 --> 36:53.360]  I've had that several times, but most of the time the clerks produce the records.
[36:53.360 --> 36:57.360]  It's just on occasion they don't.
[36:57.360 --> 37:02.360]  And I suspect it's as much the individuals exercising an authority
[37:02.360 --> 37:06.360]  they don't have as it is a policy of the court.
[37:06.360 --> 37:15.360]  I have never had a clerk tell me that it was the judge told them not to produce the records.
[37:15.360 --> 37:19.360]  Oh, well, they would never admit to something like that.
[37:19.360 --> 37:24.360]  No, if this is an honest clerk and doing her job,
[37:24.360 --> 37:29.360]  and I tell her I'm going to call the police to have them arrested,
[37:29.360 --> 37:32.360]  and the judge told her to do it, she'd say so.
[37:32.360 --> 37:35.360]  I don't think so, especially if the judge said,
[37:35.360 --> 37:38.360]  you're not going to give out any of these records,
[37:38.360 --> 37:43.360]  and if you tell anybody that I ordered you to do that, you're going to lose your job.
[37:43.360 --> 37:47.360]  I don't think that clerk would say that the judge told me.
[37:47.360 --> 37:50.360]  I'm trying to get them arrested.
[37:50.360 --> 37:52.360]  That's different than losing your job.
[37:52.360 --> 38:00.360]  What I've read that leads me to believe what I was talking about is the TMCEC,
[38:00.360 --> 38:03.360]  the Texas Municipal Courts Education Center,
[38:03.360 --> 38:10.360]  they send out these update manuals to these folks, the newsletters or whatever you want to call them,
[38:10.360 --> 38:14.360]  to the individual courts and court clerks all over Texas.
[38:14.360 --> 38:22.360]  One of the articles they wrote is about the release of court records to the public,
[38:22.360 --> 38:30.360]  and in that article they specifically instruct the court that the court records fall under Open Records Act,
[38:30.360 --> 38:35.360]  which is completely false.
[38:35.360 --> 38:43.360]  So what the TMCEC has done has misled the courts in general that their records are not public.
[38:43.360 --> 38:46.360]  That they are open records requested.
[38:46.360 --> 38:54.360]  So these magistrates are ignoring what the law says and going instead of what the TMCEC says.
[38:54.360 --> 38:55.360]  So there you go.
[38:55.360 --> 38:58.360]  It's in black and white.
[38:58.360 --> 39:02.360]  Now, I have a feeling that in Samuel's situation,
[39:02.360 --> 39:08.360]  this has to do with he's trying to pull records for two people who have warrants for their arrest,
[39:08.360 --> 39:14.360]  and there's likely a policy in place at that municipal court that says if there's a warrant for somebody,
[39:14.360 --> 39:21.360]  don't let anybody come and pull their records because they want to lure the accused in to get their own records.
[39:21.360 --> 39:24.360]  Well, but that should be a nonissue.
[39:24.360 --> 39:27.360]  I responded to him also on an email today about that.
[39:27.360 --> 39:33.360]  The issue here is that the warrant never goes into the record until it's been executed.
[39:33.360 --> 39:37.360]  So it's not a part of the court record until the person's been arrested.
[39:37.360 --> 39:40.360]  Then it's required to immediately become a part of the court record.
[39:40.360 --> 39:43.360]  So how would the clerk know then is the point?
[39:43.360 --> 39:45.360]  The clerk probably won't.
[39:45.360 --> 39:50.360]  But I also told him that you're not going to get that information about the warrant
[39:50.360 --> 39:56.360]  because of the necessity of not informing the person it names ahead of time,
[39:56.360 --> 39:59.360]  that they need to avoid the police because there's a warrant.
[39:59.360 --> 40:02.360]  Okay, so the bottom line for Samuel, he should go back,
[40:02.360 --> 40:06.360]  he should have copies of both of these statutes printed out,
[40:06.360 --> 40:11.360]  and he should go directly to the security, the head of security,
[40:11.360 --> 40:14.360]  before he goes to the clerk to explain the situation
[40:14.360 --> 40:21.360]  and ask for a security to escort him to the clerk in order to get copies of these records.
[40:21.360 --> 40:23.360]  Is that correct, Randy?
[40:23.360 --> 40:25.360]  Exactly.
[40:25.360 --> 40:28.360]  That'll keep the clerk from calling security on you.
[40:28.360 --> 40:32.360]  And let me clarify one little piece.
[40:32.360 --> 40:37.360]  In the matter of the county and district courts,
[40:37.360 --> 40:43.360]  there is a statute that authorizes them to ask for a written request.
[40:43.360 --> 40:46.360]  Normally, that's never done.
[40:46.360 --> 40:51.360]  Sometimes a clerk will pull that, and then you have the issue to argue with.
[40:51.360 --> 40:58.360]  But in the matter of a municipal or justice court, that's what 27004 is for,
[40:58.360 --> 41:05.360]  it bypasses that ability to request, to ask for a written request.
[41:05.360 --> 41:08.360]  It's a special statute that commands those courts
[41:08.360 --> 41:14.360]  to make their records open for public inspection immediately.
[41:14.360 --> 41:20.360]  And that's how that cow ate that cabbage.
[41:20.360 --> 41:23.360]  Okay, Samuel, does all this make sense to you?
[41:23.360 --> 41:24.360]  Yes, ma'am.
[41:24.360 --> 41:25.360]  Thank you.
[41:25.360 --> 41:26.360]  Thank you, you guys.
[41:26.360 --> 41:28.360]  Appreciate it.
[41:28.360 --> 41:31.360]  And you'll find it fun, if the bailiff objects, say,
[41:31.360 --> 41:34.360]  look, I don't really want anybody arrested or anything,
[41:34.360 --> 41:39.360]  but I may need a secondary witness to memorialize the fact
[41:39.360 --> 41:41.360]  that the clerk is refusing me the records.
[41:41.360 --> 41:43.360]  That's all I really want from you.
[41:43.360 --> 41:45.360]  They sound real reasonable,
[41:45.360 --> 41:49.360]  and they're going to feel like this guy is setting us up for something,
[41:49.360 --> 41:51.360]  and it makes them really careful.
[41:51.360 --> 41:55.360]  And make sure you have a personal recording device also.
[41:55.360 --> 41:56.360]  Okay, I got one more question.
[41:56.360 --> 41:59.360]  What about, should I bring up complaints with me tomorrow
[41:59.360 --> 42:01.360]  when I go up there and request those records again,
[42:01.360 --> 42:06.360]  or should I just go up there with the police officer?
[42:06.360 --> 42:09.360]  Wait, bring complaints?
[42:09.360 --> 42:12.360]  You mean the complaint, like the tickets against your mother
[42:12.360 --> 42:15.360]  or whatever it is?
[42:15.360 --> 42:17.360]  It's against my mom and my sister.
[42:17.360 --> 42:20.360]  Only my sister has one stop for her arrest.
[42:20.360 --> 42:24.360]  Okay, all you need is the name.
[42:24.360 --> 42:28.360]  I ask them to look up all records on this name.
[42:28.360 --> 42:32.360]  I tend to not want them to know precisely what I'm looking for,
[42:32.360 --> 42:35.360]  so if I'm looking for records on an individual,
[42:35.360 --> 42:39.360]  I want to see everything on the individual.
[42:39.360 --> 42:40.360]  Okay, that's what I...
[42:40.360 --> 42:43.360]  So, no, you don't need to bring the ticket or anything.
[42:43.360 --> 42:44.360]  Okay, thank you.
[42:44.360 --> 42:45.360]  I appreciate it.
[42:45.360 --> 42:46.360]  I really do.
[42:46.360 --> 42:48.360]  All right, thank you, Samuel.
[42:48.360 --> 42:49.360]  Okay.
[42:48.360 --> 42:50.360]  Good night.
[42:50.360 --> 42:52.360]  Okay, we're going to go on now.
[42:52.360 --> 42:54.360]  We've got Tom from Arizona.
[42:54.360 --> 42:57.360]  We are just about to go to break, but, Tom, we will hold you over.
[42:57.360 --> 43:00.360]  Tom, what is your question or comment tonight?
[43:00.360 --> 43:05.360]  I've been sending an email to Randi about a friend of mine
[43:05.360 --> 43:10.360]  who was put out of her house, and they took everything she owned,
[43:10.360 --> 43:14.360]  and it was overturned because of improper service,
[43:14.360 --> 43:17.360]  but they've never notified her where she could get her stuff.
[43:17.360 --> 43:18.360]  She's been out.
[43:18.360 --> 43:22.360]  I mean, they took everything she owned for 60 years worth of stuff,
[43:22.360 --> 43:28.360]  and so they refiled, got another forcible detainer awarded,
[43:28.360 --> 43:33.360]  but when I looked on her proof of service, the attorney's proof of service...
[43:33.360 --> 43:35.360]  Oh, I'll wait.
[43:35.360 --> 43:36.360]  Okay, yep.
[43:36.360 --> 43:38.360]  Sorry, I knew we were about to go to break.
[43:38.360 --> 43:39.360]  Stay right there, Tom.
[43:39.360 --> 43:41.360]  We've also got Ray and Chris.
[43:41.360 --> 43:43.360]  We'll be taking your calls as well.
[43:43.360 --> 43:49.360]  Folks, if you'd like to call in and get in the queue, 512-646-1984,
[43:49.360 --> 43:51.360]  we will be right back, folks.
[43:51.360 --> 43:55.360]  This is the Rule of Law, Randi Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
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[46:43.360 --> 46:57.360]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[46:57.360 --> 46:59.360]  We are speaking with Tom in Arizona.
[46:59.360 --> 47:01.360]  Tom, sorry, the break cut you off.
[47:01.360 --> 47:04.360]  Why don't you back up and start over?
[47:04.360 --> 47:05.360]  Okay.
[47:05.360 --> 47:13.360]  This started probably late last year where they did a foreclosure on this person's home.
[47:13.360 --> 47:18.360]  They got a forcible detainer, and they came in and physically put her out of her house.
[47:18.360 --> 47:22.360]  She was put out with only the clothes on her back, a bag of dirty clothes.
[47:22.360 --> 47:24.360]  She was able to grab her cat and her laptop.
[47:24.360 --> 47:26.360]  That was it.
[47:26.360 --> 47:32.360]  So they wanted her to sign for peace, and she said no because they didn't have jurisdiction to do this.
[47:32.360 --> 47:43.360]  So she fought it for four or five months, and she got a forcible detainer overturned for lack of service.
[47:43.360 --> 47:52.360]  Okay, now that is a very, very big deal.
[47:52.360 --> 47:56.360]  She needs to sue the crap out of them.
[47:56.360 --> 47:58.360]  Has she filed suit against the lender?
[47:58.360 --> 48:02.360]  No, she doesn't know how to do that.
[48:02.360 --> 48:08.360]  That's what we do with remedies in real estate, have her go to remedies in real estate.
[48:08.360 --> 48:10.360]  We can help her do that.
[48:10.360 --> 48:13.360]  She has a very big suit here.
[48:13.360 --> 48:14.360]  Yes.
[48:14.360 --> 48:17.360]  Unlawful detainer was improper.
[48:17.360 --> 48:22.360]  They went in and illegally took everything she owned and stole it.
[48:22.360 --> 48:24.360]  Right, and it's still gone.
[48:24.360 --> 48:30.360]  As soon as it was overturned, they had to return that to her immediately.
[48:30.360 --> 48:32.360]  They may not even have it anymore.
[48:32.360 --> 48:33.360]  She needs to sue them.
[48:33.360 --> 48:37.360]  If she sues them, that will stop the foreclosure proceedings.
[48:37.360 --> 48:42.360]  She got an email with copies of her yearbook with signatures on it,
[48:42.360 --> 48:51.360]  and the only way they could get that was if they had bought, if they sold her storage unit and somebody bought it.
[48:51.360 --> 48:55.360]  Say that again.
[48:55.360 --> 49:04.360]  She had received an email from someone, and copies of her yearbook were included in it with the signatures,
[49:04.360 --> 49:10.360]  the things that people wrote, and the only way somebody could get that was if they had her yearbook.
[49:10.360 --> 49:14.360]  Does she still have this person's email address so she can contact them?
[49:14.360 --> 49:17.360]  I'm not sure. It's a business.
[49:17.360 --> 49:21.360]  Have they actually foreclosed on the property already and sold it?
[49:21.360 --> 49:24.360]  Oh, yeah. Yeah, they foreclosed last year.
[49:24.360 --> 49:29.360]  She needs to sue them. That's the only way she's going to get any action.
[49:29.360 --> 49:30.360]  Right now...
[49:30.360 --> 49:35.360]  She can use our suit, use another suit, but she has a great suit against them. Sue them.
[49:35.360 --> 49:39.360]  Okay, well, that's what I've been trying to get her to do, file in federal court.
[49:39.360 --> 49:46.360]  Now, after they got it overturned, they refiled right away, and of course they got another forcible detainer.
[49:46.360 --> 49:54.360]  But when I looked at the affidavit of service by this attorney, there was no notary stamp on it.
[49:54.360 --> 50:00.360]  All there was was his name stamped in the signature area and a date stamped.
[50:00.360 --> 50:06.360]  I called the Secretary of State, and that person, the notary supposedly, who they put the name in there,
[50:06.360 --> 50:11.360]  his period of notary was expired, so he could not have notarized that document.
[50:11.360 --> 50:16.360]  So she filed fraudulent documents in the court to get this.
[50:16.360 --> 50:21.360]  This is the kind of thing that's been coming up a lot.
[50:21.360 --> 50:26.360]  The courts are getting very sensitive to it. She should sue the crap out of them.
[50:26.360 --> 50:34.360]  For all of this time she's been out of her house without her property.
[50:34.360 --> 50:35.360]  Right.
[50:35.360 --> 50:40.360]  They're responsible. They're responsible for the harm it causes. She needs to sue them big time.
[50:40.360 --> 50:49.360]  Right, and so she's been out homeless for six months or more, living off friends' help.
[50:49.360 --> 50:57.360]  She has a very large suit. If she doesn't sue, she's going to lose everything.
[50:57.360 --> 51:03.360]  If she sits back and says, oh, I can't, I can't, I can't, nobody can help her.
[51:03.360 --> 51:11.360]  Well, she's been trying to put in her own paperwork, and they've denied everything she puts in the court.
[51:11.360 --> 51:15.360]  Has she actually filed a lawsuit yet?
[51:15.360 --> 51:23.360]  She filed a common lawsuit, and of course they've just ignored it.
[51:23.360 --> 51:26.360]  Okay. Have her call me.
[51:26.360 --> 51:28.360]  Okay.
[51:28.360 --> 51:35.360]  She can't just, wait a minute, where did she file the lawsuit at?
[51:35.360 --> 51:38.360]  In the federal court.
[51:38.360 --> 51:39.360]  State or federal?
[51:39.360 --> 51:41.360]  State.
[51:41.360 --> 51:45.360]  Okay, state. And the state ignored her suit?
[51:45.360 --> 51:54.360]  Well, they said you can't do this unless you give us $250, and she hasn't got $250. She's living on $300 a month.
[51:54.360 --> 51:55.360]  Okay.
[51:55.360 --> 51:57.360]  It's because she can't pay the filing fee?
[51:57.360 --> 51:58.360]  Right.
[51:58.360 --> 52:06.360]  Well, then has she tried to inform a proper status? Has she filed any documents to get a waiver of the filing fee yet?
[52:06.360 --> 52:10.360]  That's more information than I know.
[52:10.360 --> 52:19.360]  Well, yeah, you either have to get permission from the court to file a lawsuit to waive the fee, or else you have to pay the fee.
[52:19.360 --> 52:24.360]  You can't just file the suit and say, I can't pay it, you should take it anyway.
[52:24.360 --> 52:29.360]  You have to get permission from the court to file it without paying the filing fee.
[52:29.360 --> 52:34.360]  Right. Well, we put a writ of error and other things in, and they've just denied everything we've put in.
[52:34.360 --> 52:38.360]  Well, they're going to if there's no case opened.
[52:38.360 --> 52:41.360]  Both cases are still open.
[52:41.360 --> 52:49.360]  Okay, wait, wait. Look, you're telling us this, but we have absolutely no idea what's going on.
[52:49.360 --> 52:52.360]  You're saying that the courts are denying everything.
[52:52.360 --> 52:58.360]  They don't deny everything unless you're missing something real important.
[52:58.360 --> 52:59.360]  We may be.
[52:59.360 --> 53:03.360]  Are you putting in this commercial paper?
[53:03.360 --> 53:06.360]  Right.
[53:06.360 --> 53:07.360]  I didn't hear that.
[53:07.360 --> 53:09.360]  The other thing is...
[53:09.360 --> 53:14.360]  Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you putting in this commercial process paperwork?
[53:14.360 --> 53:19.360]  No, no, no. You're talking about the redemption stuff?
[53:19.360 --> 53:20.360]  Yes.
[53:20.360 --> 53:22.360]  No, no, we're not doing that.
[53:22.360 --> 53:28.360]  Okay. What claims has she made against the lender?
[53:28.360 --> 53:35.360]  She has claimed that they had no jurisdiction to move, that they had no reason...
[53:35.360 --> 53:38.360]  What was the basis of the claim?
[53:38.360 --> 53:40.360]  Pardon?
[53:40.360 --> 53:43.360]  What was the basis of the claim?
[53:43.360 --> 53:47.360]  It started with no jurisdiction.
[53:47.360 --> 53:52.360]  No jurisdiction is the name of a filing.
[53:52.360 --> 53:58.360]  What was the cause that she claimed that caused them not to have jurisdiction?
[53:58.360 --> 53:59.360]  What was the claim?
[53:59.360 --> 54:09.360]  Oh, because we went down and pulled the certified copies of her records out of the recorder.
[54:09.360 --> 54:18.360]  Wells Fargo was not on there, had never got an assignment to be attached to her mortgage.
[54:18.360 --> 54:20.360]  And that's the claim you made in the court?
[54:20.360 --> 54:22.360]  Right.
[54:22.360 --> 54:32.360]  Then she needs to file criminal charges against the judge for outlawry and start moving against the judge criminally.
[54:32.360 --> 54:36.360]  If he wants to just deny everything, let him, and then we take him to court.
[54:36.360 --> 54:42.360]  Okay. The other thing is, is this attorney has never filed as attorney of record.
[54:42.360 --> 54:46.360]  So everything she has done is void.
[54:46.360 --> 54:48.360]  Okay.
[54:48.360 --> 54:57.360]  Somehow, you know, this sounds like, I hear these from time to time, but I'm not getting anywhere near enough information
[54:57.360 --> 55:00.360]  because I'm dealing with the courts.
[55:00.360 --> 55:01.360]  Right.
[55:01.360 --> 55:07.360]  They never just arbitrarily, out of hand, simply deny every single thing on earth.
[55:07.360 --> 55:10.360]  They just do not ever do that.
[55:10.360 --> 55:12.360]  Okay. Well, I can send you copies.
[55:12.360 --> 55:15.360]  There's something else here we're not getting.
[55:15.360 --> 55:22.360]  They're not just saying, no, no, no, no, no matter what you do, no matter what law, no matter what you file,
[55:22.360 --> 55:24.360]  we're not going to do anything ever.
[55:24.360 --> 55:26.360]  They don't do that.
[55:26.360 --> 55:28.360]  I have never, ever seen one do that.
[55:28.360 --> 55:29.360]  Okay.
[55:29.360 --> 55:35.360]  When they do do that, and I look at the paper, people are filing stuff the judge can't act on.
[55:35.360 --> 55:41.360]  If you don't give him law to stand on, he has no authority to rule in your case.
[55:41.360 --> 55:42.360]  Okay.
[55:42.360 --> 55:47.360]  So far, I have no idea what's going on.
[55:47.360 --> 55:52.360]  You've been talking to me this long, and all you're doing is telling me what the judge is doing wrong.
[55:52.360 --> 55:53.360]  I can send you copies before you're done.
[55:53.360 --> 55:57.360]  I need more, something more definite so I know how to approach this.
[55:57.360 --> 56:02.360]  If it's that corrupt, then you need to go criminally after the judge.
[56:02.360 --> 56:05.360]  If that corrupt?
[56:05.360 --> 56:08.360]  Then start filing criminal charges against the judge.
[56:08.360 --> 56:10.360]  Walk him through the process.
[56:10.360 --> 56:11.360]  Okay.
[56:11.360 --> 56:12.360]  All right.
[56:12.360 --> 56:13.360]  Okay.
[56:13.360 --> 56:14.360]  Could I take a quick question?
[56:14.360 --> 56:15.360]  Okay.
[56:15.360 --> 56:16.360]  Where is this at?
[56:16.360 --> 56:18.360]  In Tucson, Arizona.
[56:18.360 --> 56:19.360]  Tucson.
[56:19.360 --> 56:22.360]  Okay.
[56:22.360 --> 56:27.360]  I haven't had any from Tucson, so I don't know how that jurisdiction is.
[56:27.360 --> 56:28.360]  Okay.
[56:28.360 --> 56:30.360]  But have her contact me.
[56:30.360 --> 56:31.360]  Okay.
[56:31.360 --> 56:32.360]  I certainly will.
[56:32.360 --> 56:33.360]  Okay.
[56:33.360 --> 56:39.360]  I can tell you everything she's done and what they've done to her better not can.
[56:39.360 --> 56:40.360]  Good.
[56:40.360 --> 56:41.360]  Yeah.
[56:41.360 --> 56:43.360]  That way I can get more clear information.
[56:43.360 --> 56:44.360]  Okay.
[56:44.360 --> 56:45.360]  Can I ask you one more question?
[56:45.360 --> 56:46.360]  Yeah.
[56:46.360 --> 56:53.360]  And I do want to say I appreciate your stepping up for someone else who's having trouble doing
[56:53.360 --> 56:54.360]  it themselves.
[56:54.360 --> 56:55.360]  I appreciate you.
[56:55.360 --> 56:56.360]  Thank you.
[56:56.360 --> 56:58.360]  I appreciate it because they're really doing her dirty and they're doing lots of folks
[56:58.360 --> 57:00.360]  dirty out here.
[57:00.360 --> 57:03.360]  I had a stray dog take up around my place.
[57:03.360 --> 57:06.360]  Somebody called the dog warden.
[57:06.360 --> 57:10.360]  He showed up and told me that I had to put the dog up.
[57:10.360 --> 57:12.360]  I said, it's not my dog.
[57:12.360 --> 57:16.360]  He said, well, you've got to give it rabies shot since it's not licensed and you violated
[57:16.360 --> 57:17.360]  a leash law.
[57:17.360 --> 57:19.360]  I said, it's not my dog.
[57:19.360 --> 57:21.360]  And so we went round and round.
[57:21.360 --> 57:23.360]  I said, well, I said, there's a dog.
[57:23.360 --> 57:24.360]  If you can catch her, take her.
[57:24.360 --> 57:25.360]  I'm leaving.
[57:25.360 --> 57:26.360]  And I left.
[57:26.360 --> 57:31.360]  And I come back and there's a thing stuck in my door that says I'm filing long form
[57:31.360 --> 57:34.360]  for these charges.
[57:34.360 --> 57:39.360]  But a week and a half later, he showed up with two sheriff deputies that came down there
[57:39.360 --> 57:44.360]  and threatened me that they were going to take me to jail, handcuff me, let me sit in
[57:44.360 --> 57:49.360]  jail over the weekend if I didn't give them identification.
[57:49.360 --> 57:53.360]  I told them I was not under arrest and did not have to do anything more than give them
[57:53.360 --> 57:54.360]  my name.
[57:54.360 --> 57:56.360]  And they weren't happy with that.
[57:56.360 --> 58:02.360]  They told me turn around, put my hands on my back, they're taking me to jail, which
[58:02.360 --> 58:04.360]  is retaliation as far as I can see.
[58:04.360 --> 58:05.360]  Yes, it is.
[58:05.360 --> 58:06.360]  You defile it.
[58:06.360 --> 58:07.360]  OK.
[58:07.360 --> 58:11.360]  OK, we're going to break in a minute.
[58:11.360 --> 58:16.360]  But yes, if they didn't have a warrant for your arrest and they came to your house.
[58:16.360 --> 58:19.360]  This is your private property.
[58:19.360 --> 58:23.360]  You need to start putting together criminal charges against them, get a tort letter to
[58:23.360 --> 58:29.360]  the county commission with court or to the mayor if it's your municipality.
[58:29.360 --> 58:30.360]  OK, hang on.
[58:30.360 --> 58:31.360]  We're about to go to break.
[58:31.360 --> 58:35.360]  We'll pick this back up on the other side.
[58:35.360 --> 58:39.360]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheel of Law Radio.
[58:39.360 --> 58:46.360]  Our call in number is 512-646-1984.
[58:46.360 --> 58:48.360]  This is going to be our top of the hour break.
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[58:50.360 --> 58:52.360]  We've got about three or four callers.
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[01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.360]  Former Secretary of State Colin Powell's chief of staff, Lawrence Wilkerson,
[01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:14.360]  told MSNBC Wednesday George Bush wasn't interested in bringing Osama bin Laden to justice
[01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:20.360]  because, quote, once they got him, the war was over, and that left all the political advantage gone,
[01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:25.360]  or because Bush knew, quote, it was almost an impossibility to get him,
[01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:29.360]  given what they had done to the intelligence and other aspects of the government.
[01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:36.360]  Yemeni security forces Thursday shot dead two protesters and wounded seven others in the city of Al Baida.
[01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:41.360]  In Taiz, dozens of demonstrators were wounded after government forces fired machine guns
[01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.360]  to halt a protest against President Ali Abdullah Saleh.
[01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:50.360]  The injured were rushed to a clinic in a square where demonstrators have been camping for months.
[01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:54.360]  A U.S. drone killed five people Thursday in Pakistan's tribal region.
[01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:58.360]  Last year, the U.S. doubled its strikes to more than 100.
[01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:03.360]  The CIA claims the covert program has severely disrupted al-Qaeda's leadership,
[01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:09.360]  but experts say last week's discovery of bin Laden, living just 35 miles from the capital,
[01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.360]  exposes the limits of drone strikes to hit top terror targets.
[01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:21.360]  Newly uncovered documents show Israel stripped over 100,000 Palestinians of their right to live in the West Bank,
[01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.360]  forcing most of them into exile.
[01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:30.360]  An Israeli non-governmental organization says 140,000 Palestinians who left to work or study
[01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.360]  had their residency rights revoked between 1967 and 1994.
[01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:40.360]  Those crossing to Jordan from the West Bank had to deposit their ID with Israeli officials.
[01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:43.360]  In return, they were given a card valid for three years,
[01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.360]  which could be extended three times for an additional year.
[01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:52.360]  If they stayed abroad more than six months after the card expired, their right to return was revoked.
[01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.360]  An estimated 130,000 are still deemed no longer resident NLR.
[01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:03.360]  The practice of revoking residency rights of Palestinians has accelerated in East Jerusalem in recent years.
[01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:12.360]  Since 1995, Palestinians have been required to prove their center of life is in East Jerusalem or lose residency rights.
[01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:18.360]  Attempts by Democrats to end tax breaks for major oil companies were challenged from within their own party
[01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:24.360]  on the Senate floor Wednesday as representatives for producing states rushed to defend oil giants.
[01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:29.360]  Senator Mark Begich of Alaska and Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
[01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:34.360]  decried their party's attempt to strip tax breaks from the top oil companies.
[01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:40.360]  Begich insisted the U.S. shouldn't end, quote, incentives for increased domestic energy consumption
[01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.360]  that offset, quote, foreign imports from unfriendly countries.
[01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:48.360]  However, oil countries sell domestic oil on the international market.
[01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:57.360]  Landrieu has received nearly $3 million and Begich $140,000 in contributions from the oil and gas industries.
[01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:06.360]  For more details on this story, visit INNWorldRecord.net.
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[01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.360]  We are finishing up right now with Tom in Arizona.
[01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:19.360]  Apparently some kind of retaliation situation because he wouldn't adopt a dog
[01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:23.360]  and get all the vaccinations, et cetera, when it wasn't even his dog.
[01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.360]  It was a stray.
[01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:32.360]  I guess they just didn't want to have to do the work for the dog catcher to pick up the stray or whatever.
[01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:38.360]  So now they've sent the sheriffs after him to arrest him for no good reason on retaliation.
[01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:44.360]  And I'll tell you this, Tom, this is why I don't answer the door.
[01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.360]  This is my rule of thumb.
[01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.360]  Unless I invite somebody over, I don't answer the door.
[01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:55.360]  Even my own friends, if they show up without being invited, a lot of the times I don't answer the door,
[01:04:55.360 --> 01:05:02.360]  especially if I'm doing something else or busy or on the phone or engaged in a conference call or something.
[01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:07.360]  If I don't invite somebody over, I don't answer the door, period.
[01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.360]  And if it's the cops or the sheriffs or whatever, I don't care.
[01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:12.360]  I still don't answer the door.
[01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:19.360]  If they have a warrant, then they'll bang on the door and they'll yell that they have a warrant or kick down the door.
[01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.360]  They'll yell, open the door within 30 seconds or we're kicking it down.
[01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.360]  Okay, if there's a warrant for your arrest, they'll kick down the door.
[01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:31.360]  If they're just coming to harass you, then they'll just bang on the door and go away.
[01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.360]  So this is my rule of thumb for everybody out there.
[01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:38.360]  Just don't answer the door, okay, period.
[01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.360]  If they have a warrant, you'll know about it in a big hurry.
[01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:45.360]  If they don't have a warrant, they'll leave a card or a note with the nature of their business,
[01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.360]  and that's how you can keep yourself out of this kind of trouble.
[01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.360]  But in the meantime, it's too late.
[01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:51.360]  You answer the door.
[01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:54.360]  So Randy, what should he do now?
[01:05:54.360 --> 01:06:00.360]  Yeah, she needs to be standing out in the cold banging on the door all the time.
[01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.360]  That's how she knows it's you.
[01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:11.360]  I would absolutely take a set of criminal complaints against the officer for aggravated assault.
[01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:19.360]  I've got 19 charges, trespassing, assault, aggravated assault.
[01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:23.360]  Okay, I wouldn't file 19 initially.
[01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:24.360]  Okay.
[01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:28.360]  Pick your best ones, take them to the prosecuting attorney,
[01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:32.360]  make sure they've been signed before a notary and verified.
[01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:33.360]  Right.
[01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.360]  And then best if you mail it to them, best if they don't get to see you.
[01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:39.360]  Okay.
[01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:43.360]  When people see you, they feel like they can take your measure.
[01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.360]  Right.
[01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.360]  When they can't see you, you're an unknown.
[01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:52.360]  So mail it to him with a letter stamped after his envelope
[01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:58.360]  and ask him to send this back telling you when he's going to give it to a grand jury.
[01:06:58.360 --> 01:06:59.360]  Okay.
[01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.360]  Well, he's not going to give it to a grand jury.
[01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.360]  If you send him the stamped after his envelope, he'll most likely send it back.
[01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:10.360]  If he doesn't, you wait two weeks and then you file criminal charges against him with the judge
[01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.360]  and just start working the routine.
[01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.360]  I follow how you've done that, how you do that.
[01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:16.360]  Pardon me?
[01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:17.360]  I understand that.
[01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.360]  Okay, just work the routine on them.
[01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.360]  And then if they show up a second time, then whoever the highest judge is that you've made
[01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:32.360]  complaints against, you file a second set of complaints against that judge for harassment
[01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.360]  tampering with a witness for sending those officers out to harass you.
[01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:37.360]  Right.
[01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:39.360]  That'll get their attention.
[01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:40.360]  Yeah.
[01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:41.360]  Okay.
[01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:43.360]  Most of the people involved.
[01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.360]  So okay, I really appreciate it.
[01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:49.360]  Do you want me to have my friend call you tomorrow night?
[01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:50.360]  Okay.
[01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:51.360]  I'm in Australia.
[01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.360]  Better have her email me.
[01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:54.360]  Okay.
[01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:55.360]  I sure will.
[01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:56.360]  All right.
[01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:57.360]  Thank you.
[01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:58.360]  We appreciate all your help.
[01:07:58.360 --> 01:07:59.360]  Thank you, Tom.
[01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:00.360]  Okay.
[01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:04.360]  Now we're going to go to Ray in Texas.
[01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:05.360]  Hello?
[01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:07.360]  Ray, what's on your mind?
[01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:08.360]  Hey, Eddie.
[01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:09.360]  Hey, Randy.
[01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:10.360]  Debra.
[01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:11.360]  Evening.
[01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:12.360]  Hello.
[01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.360]  I showed you the letter in your class that time.
[01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:20.360]  I remember you said that Greg Abbott's office was wrong, which I totally agree with you,
[01:08:20.360 --> 01:08:25.360]  but this is the letter that they gave me where I was trying to get the records for that.
[01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:26.360]  Wait a minute, Ray.
[01:08:26.360 --> 01:08:29.360]  You're starting in the middle of something.
[01:08:29.360 --> 01:08:33.360]  We've got a lot of listeners out there having no idea what you're talking about.
[01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:34.360]  Bring us up to speed.
[01:08:34.360 --> 01:08:39.360]  Eddie gives an incredible class on the traffic laws and everything.
[01:08:39.360 --> 01:08:41.360]  He's a really, really incredible class.
[01:08:41.360 --> 01:08:45.360]  Every Sunday from two to five, it's been going.
[01:08:45.360 --> 01:08:47.360]  I've learned so much.
[01:08:47.360 --> 01:08:54.360]  But I showed Eddie this letter because I asked, I sent in a request to get all the information
[01:08:54.360 --> 01:08:57.360]  or if there was any information on this police officer's record.
[01:08:57.360 --> 01:09:00.360]  You know, it's supposed to be open records.
[01:09:00.360 --> 01:09:03.360]  And they sent me a letter back from Greg Abbott's office.
[01:09:03.360 --> 01:09:06.360]  And you read this.
[01:09:06.360 --> 01:09:10.360]  This is a huge letter, but let me read where it pertains to.
[01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:17.360]  Such records are subject to release under Act CID 143.089,
[01:09:17.360 --> 01:09:23.360]  open records decision number 562 at 6, 1990.
[01:09:23.360 --> 01:09:29.360]  It says, however, a document relating to a police officer's alleged misconduct
[01:09:29.360 --> 01:09:32.360]  may not be placed in his civil service personnel file
[01:09:32.360 --> 01:09:37.360]  if there is insufficient evidence to sustain the charge of misconduct.
[01:09:37.360 --> 01:09:43.360]  Local Government Code 143.089, information that reasonably relates to
[01:09:43.360 --> 01:09:47.360]  a police officer's employment relationship with the department
[01:09:47.360 --> 01:09:54.360]  and that is maintained in a police department's internal file pursuant to Section 143.089
[01:09:54.360 --> 01:09:58.360]  is confidential and must not be released.
[01:09:58.360 --> 01:10:07.360]  Video San Antonio versus San Antonio Express News, 47SW3D556.
[01:10:07.360 --> 01:10:15.360]  And it says, Texas APP-San Antonio 2000 PET denied.
[01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:17.360]  Okay, hold on, hold on.
[01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:20.360]  What was the purpose of the request?
[01:10:20.360 --> 01:10:22.360]  Why this particular officer?
[01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:24.360]  I wanted to get his oath of office.
[01:10:24.360 --> 01:10:27.360]  It was on file.
[01:10:27.360 --> 01:10:31.360]  Oh, oath of office?
[01:10:31.360 --> 01:10:35.360]  Okay, that doesn't go to a complaint.
[01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:38.360]  Well, I wanted to get if there was any information about him as well.
[01:10:38.360 --> 01:10:43.360]  Okay, well, hold on, I'm going somewhere here.
[01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:47.360]  Was there a special reason you're asking about this particular officer?
[01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:53.360]  Specifically, was there a reason that may give you a cause
[01:10:53.360 --> 01:10:56.360]  for a civil action against this officer?
[01:10:56.360 --> 01:11:00.360]  Yes, he violated my rights.
[01:11:00.360 --> 01:11:03.360]  Okay, in that case, you might try.
[01:11:03.360 --> 01:11:08.360]  I think it's rules of civil procedure.
[01:11:08.360 --> 01:11:11.360]  I think it's 281 or 181.
[01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:20.360]  It's do an online search for Texas pre-litigation discovery.
[01:11:20.360 --> 01:11:24.360]  So you send him discovery and you maintain that.
[01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:29.360]  You have reason to believe that you have a claim against this officer,
[01:11:29.360 --> 01:11:33.360]  but there is information that you need that only the officer
[01:11:33.360 --> 01:11:36.360]  or the department has that would either confirm
[01:11:36.360 --> 01:11:43.360]  or dispel your claim against him and ask for pre-litigation discovery.
[01:11:43.360 --> 01:11:48.360]  That puts it in a whole other ballpark.
[01:11:48.360 --> 01:11:50.360]  Especially if you have reason to believe that this officer
[01:11:50.360 --> 01:11:54.360]  is perpetrating a pattern of abuse.
[01:11:54.360 --> 01:11:56.360]  Big time.
[01:11:56.360 --> 01:12:00.360]  Yeah, there are several records of public officers,
[01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:06.360]  such as police officers, that are specifically exempted from open records.
[01:12:06.360 --> 01:12:08.360]  The complaints against him is one of them,
[01:12:08.360 --> 01:12:12.360]  his training records is another, and so on and so forth.
[01:12:12.360 --> 01:12:17.360]  Medical records, address, photograph.
[01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:21.360]  Yeah, Randy is correct that the only way you're going to get that
[01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:29.360]  is through pre-litigation discovery with a court order.
[01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:33.360]  We got him on video violating my rights, Randy.
[01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:35.360]  Oh, good.
[01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:37.360]  I can't believe they actually gave that up.
[01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:40.360]  Is it on YouTube?
[01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:42.360]  Not yet. Not yet.
[01:12:42.360 --> 01:12:45.360]  Get it on YouTube. They hate that.
[01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:49.360]  Yeah, I can't believe they actually gave it to me.
[01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:55.360]  Any time you make a reference to the court to this behavior,
[01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:58.360]  give them the YouTube link.
[01:12:58.360 --> 01:13:00.360]  Uh-huh.
[01:13:00.360 --> 01:13:04.360]  I told my prosecuting attorney once I was talking about a criminal complaint
[01:13:04.360 --> 01:13:08.360]  I filed against the district judge with the attorney general,
[01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:10.360]  and he asked me if I had a copy.
[01:13:10.360 --> 01:13:12.360]  I said, well, I don't have one with me, but I got it on this flash drive.
[01:13:12.360 --> 01:13:15.360]  Oh, no, no, no. I can't put that in my computer.
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:16.360]  It might have a virus on it.
[01:13:16.360 --> 01:13:17.360]  I said, well, that's okay.
[01:13:17.360 --> 01:13:20.360]  And you can go to jurisimprudence.com
[01:13:20.360 --> 01:13:23.360]  and just look under Documents and Research.
[01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:28.360]  Mr. Kelton, tell me you don't have that on the Internet.
[01:13:28.360 --> 01:13:31.360]  Oh, yeah, you can just write on the Internet and pull it down.
[01:13:31.360 --> 01:13:35.360]  Oh, Mr. Kelton, you give me such a pain in the behind.
[01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:39.360]  They hate that.
[01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:41.360]  They absolutely hate that.
[01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:43.360]  In fact, I remember this about six months or so back.
[01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:45.360]  I can't remember where this was,
[01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:51.360]  but there was a SWAT team that they killed a child or something.
[01:13:51.360 --> 01:13:55.360]  They even got the wrong house, and the whole thing got put up on YouTube.
[01:13:55.360 --> 01:13:57.360]  And when there was a big town hall meeting about it,
[01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:00.360]  here's what the police chief and the officers involved had to say.
[01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:03.360]  All they had to say was, we hate the Internet.
[01:14:03.360 --> 01:14:05.360]  That was the direct quote in the newspaper.
[01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:06.360]  We hate the Internet.
[01:14:06.360 --> 01:14:10.360]  Not I'm sorry, not we feel so bad, we made a mistake,
[01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:13.360]  we killed this person's child, nothing like that,
[01:14:13.360 --> 01:14:15.360]  no show of remorse whatsoever.
[01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:18.360]  Their only reaction was, we hate the Internet.
[01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:20.360]  That's what we're dealing with here.
[01:14:20.360 --> 01:14:24.360]  Yeah, all they cared about was that it made them look bad.
[01:14:24.360 --> 01:14:29.360]  They didn't care that they had just destroyed someone's life.
[01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:33.360]  So that's one tactic that will help.
[01:14:33.360 --> 01:14:36.360]  And any time you go down, you might take a video camera with you
[01:14:36.360 --> 01:14:39.360]  if you go to the police department or something
[01:14:39.360 --> 01:14:44.360]  and get them on video telling you that you can't record them
[01:14:44.360 --> 01:14:50.360]  and carry two personal recording devices with you,
[01:14:50.360 --> 01:14:52.360]  one they can see, one they can't see.
[01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:56.360]  When they tell you to turn it off, turn the one off they can see.
[01:14:56.360 --> 01:15:00.360]  Ah, gotcha, gotcha.
[01:15:00.360 --> 01:15:05.360]  I once told a sheriff, you know, sheriff, I'm getting kind of old
[01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:10.360]  and I'm a combat veteran and my ears don't work so good as they used to.
[01:15:10.360 --> 01:15:16.360]  Will you look and speak clearly into my pen, please?
[01:15:16.360 --> 01:15:19.360]  The look on his face was priceless.
[01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:24.360]  And he looked down and I didn't have a pen in my pocket.
[01:15:24.360 --> 01:15:27.360]  So he didn't look anymore, he thought I was joking.
[01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:32.360]  I had my recorder in my other pocket.
[01:15:32.360 --> 01:15:35.360]  Anyway, they hate that kind of stuff.
[01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:38.360]  Eddie and Randy, you've all helped so much.
[01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:40.360]  I've learned so much from you guys.
[01:15:40.360 --> 01:15:44.360]  Randy on the mortgage stuff and Eddie on the traffic stuff.
[01:15:44.360 --> 01:15:49.360]  I mean, wow, incredible, just incredible.
[01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:53.360]  I appreciate it.
[01:15:53.360 --> 01:15:58.360]  Ray's working over the mortgage company pretty good at this point.
[01:15:58.360 --> 01:16:03.360]  It's been up and down and he's kind of an example.
[01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:05.360]  This is a fight.
[01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:06.360]  He went after them.
[01:16:06.360 --> 01:16:08.360]  They fought back.
[01:16:08.360 --> 01:16:09.360]  He gets a win.
[01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:10.360]  They get a win.
[01:16:10.360 --> 01:16:11.360]  Now he's winning.
[01:16:11.360 --> 01:16:13.360]  It's kind of back and forth, but it's a fight.
[01:16:13.360 --> 01:16:17.360]  And it's probably the cheapest legal education you'll ever get.
[01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:18.360]  Oh, yeah.
[01:16:18.360 --> 01:16:20.360]  Did you tell them, Randy, they're paying my property tax
[01:16:20.360 --> 01:16:23.360]  without me even asking them to?
[01:16:23.360 --> 01:16:26.360]  Yeah, they decided to pay his property taxes.
[01:16:26.360 --> 01:16:28.360]  Hey, we're running short of time.
[01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:29.360]  We've got a bunch of callers.
[01:16:29.360 --> 01:16:30.360]  Thank you, Ray.
[01:16:30.360 --> 01:16:32.360]  All right, talk to you later.
[01:16:32.360 --> 01:16:33.360]  All right, thank you, Ray.
[01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:34.360]  We're heading to break right now.
[01:16:34.360 --> 01:16:36.360]  When we get back, we're going to go to Chris in Florida.
[01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:38.360]  Then we've got Tyler and Danny.
[01:16:38.360 --> 01:16:43.360]  Folks, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:44.360]  We'll be right back.
[01:16:44.360 --> 01:16:45.360]  This is the rule of law.
[01:16:45.360 --> 01:17:00.360]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
[01:17:00.360 --> 01:17:03.360]  Capital Coin and Bullion is your local source for rare coins,
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[01:17:20.360 --> 01:17:23.360]  We're now located at 7304 Burnett Road Suite A,
[01:17:23.360 --> 01:17:27.360]  1.2 miles north on Burnett from our previous location.
[01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:29.360]  We're on the west side of Burnett Road
[01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:32.360]  in the Stanley Insurance Building on the ground floor
[01:17:32.360 --> 01:17:35.360]  next to the Ishuban Sushi and the Genie Car Wash.
[01:17:35.360 --> 01:17:39.360]  We're open Monday through Friday, 10 to 6, Saturdays 10 to 5.
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[01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:44.360]  or call 512-646-6440.
[01:17:44.360 --> 01:17:47.360]  Ask for Chad or Becky and say that you heard about us
[01:17:47.360 --> 01:17:50.360]  on Rule of Law Radio or Texas Liberty Radio.
[01:17:50.360 --> 01:17:55.360]  That's Capital Coin and Bullion at our new location at 7304 Burnett Road Suite A
[01:17:55.360 --> 01:18:00.360]  or call 512-646-6440.
[01:18:00.360 --> 01:18:04.360]  My name is Randall Kelton, and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio.
[01:18:04.360 --> 01:18:09.360]  We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials.
[01:18:09.360 --> 01:18:13.360]  With the mortgage crisis worsening, we set our sights on finding a remedy
[01:18:13.360 --> 01:18:15.360]  for people who have been cheated by their lenders.
[01:18:15.360 --> 01:18:18.360]  If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off,
[01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:22.360]  you have probably been cheated out of thousands, but there is a remedy.
[01:18:22.360 --> 01:18:30.360]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140
[01:18:30.360 --> 01:18:33.360]  and find out how to use the consumer protection laws
[01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:37.360]  to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception.
[01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:41.360]  We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud
[01:18:41.360 --> 01:18:43.360]  and put the lenders on the dime.
[01:18:43.360 --> 01:18:47.360]  Lender fraud is bankrupting this country, and it's time to fight back.
[01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:54.360]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call 512-430-4140
[01:18:54.360 --> 01:19:00.360]  and get the information you need to stop the money changers in their tracks.
[01:19:00.360 --> 01:19:16.360]  I ain't gonna blame me, don't blame me
[01:19:16.360 --> 01:19:25.360]  Well, I ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:25.360 --> 01:19:30.360]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your plans
[01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:35.360]  You put the beer in my pocket, took the money from my hand
[01:19:35.360 --> 01:19:44.360]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:19:44.360 --> 01:20:00.360]  I ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:03.360]  Ain't gonna drop me with that same old trick again
[01:20:03.360 --> 01:20:08.360]  Okay, folks, we are back. We're going to your calls.
[01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:13.360]  We've got Chris from Florida. Okay, Chris, what is your question or comment for us tonight?
[01:20:13.360 --> 01:20:19.360]  Yes, ma'am. I've got a rental issue, not so much a mortgage issue like anyone else,
[01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:23.360]  but I've been listening to you guys for a while, and I hear Randy talk about picking a fight
[01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:26.360]  and picking the right fight.
[01:20:26.360 --> 01:20:29.360]  A mortgage company, I'm sorry, a rental company took over the place,
[01:20:29.360 --> 01:20:32.360]  or management company took over about a year and a half ago,
[01:20:32.360 --> 01:20:36.360]  and I've been here for a year so far, and I've paid up my rent a few months ahead of time,
[01:20:36.360 --> 01:20:39.360]  and I've been that kind of tenant. If I had extra rent, I'd just pay it beforehand
[01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:41.360]  to get it out of the way and not worry about it.
[01:20:41.360 --> 01:20:43.360]  They took over halfway through somewhere like that.
[01:20:43.360 --> 01:20:46.360]  You know, I start off with these folks getting an eviction notice
[01:20:46.360 --> 01:20:50.360]  for failure to pay rent when I'd already paid that rent three months previously,
[01:20:50.360 --> 01:20:54.360]  and then after that, it was just a whole line of, you know, violations that were bogus,
[01:20:54.360 --> 01:20:57.360]  just, I don't know, harassing me with paper.
[01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:01.360]  So now I've come to the end of it with them here, and getting ready to leave,
[01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:06.360]  they sent me a notice of intent to terminate and a notice of non-renewal,
[01:21:06.360 --> 01:21:09.360]  and I said, all right, cool, you know, I'm done playing with you guys anyways.
[01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:16.360]  However, I find myself in a predicament where I've got no place else comparable to go in the area
[01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:23.360]  and need more time. We have a tourist industry spot here, and it's peak season.
[01:21:23.360 --> 01:21:28.360]  I'm doing everything I can to get out what I call a tactical retreat, you know?
[01:21:28.360 --> 01:21:33.360]  Get out of the way. I feel like I've documented enough things to pick a fight,
[01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:37.360]  and I guess I wanted to run by some of my things and see what you guys thought there.
[01:21:37.360 --> 01:21:42.360]  Well, if you want to stop them, sue them.
[01:21:42.360 --> 01:21:45.360]  All right. All right. Well, that's great.
[01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:48.360]  Where do I start with a civil suit? I've been listening to you guys for a few months.
[01:21:48.360 --> 01:21:53.360]  I've got a few questions, like, what is a tort letter, and where do I learn to write one?
[01:21:53.360 --> 01:21:54.360]  Okay.
[01:21:54.360 --> 01:21:58.360]  I've looked around and not come up with something like that yet.
[01:21:58.360 --> 01:22:02.360]  Okay. A tort letter is merely a statement of claim.
[01:22:02.360 --> 01:22:04.360]  Okay.
[01:22:04.360 --> 01:22:07.360]  Probably do a search on the Internet.
[01:22:07.360 --> 01:22:16.360]  Go to Ixquick and do a search for tort letter, Florida.
[01:22:16.360 --> 01:22:22.360]  The best place to go actually would be to your local library, if you have a law library.
[01:22:22.360 --> 01:22:25.360]  Are you in South Florida?
[01:22:25.360 --> 01:22:27.360]  I'm in the Panhandle.
[01:22:27.360 --> 01:22:31.360]  Okay. Are you near a law school anywhere?
[01:22:31.360 --> 01:22:33.360]  Not that I'm familiar with, no.
[01:22:33.360 --> 01:22:42.360]  Okay. Then just go to your local library or call the courts and ask if there's a legal library around anywhere close.
[01:22:42.360 --> 01:22:43.360]  Okay.
[01:22:43.360 --> 01:22:45.360]  And talk to the librarian.
[01:22:45.360 --> 01:22:56.360]  The best thing to do is just go on the Internet and search for suits of the type you want to file.
[01:22:56.360 --> 01:22:58.360]  And look at someone else's suit.
[01:22:58.360 --> 01:23:07.360]  A couple ideas would be something like, you know, I'm documented quite a few times where they send me a piece of paper with violations on it.
[01:23:07.360 --> 01:23:10.360]  And I'll go to my rental agreement and document it.
[01:23:10.360 --> 01:23:14.360]  Each one of them would be like, well, you know, according to my rental agreement, this is a protected right, you know.
[01:23:14.360 --> 01:23:19.360]  And it seems like you're just trying to find another way to get extra money out of me.
[01:23:19.360 --> 01:23:34.360]  Go down to the district court and ask the clerks down there to let you look at some lawsuits that have been filed based on rental properties and rental agreements.
[01:23:34.360 --> 01:23:35.360]  All right.
[01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:42.360]  And ask them for the biggest ones she could find, big, wide, lots of paper.
[01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:44.360]  That means it was hard fought.
[01:23:44.360 --> 01:23:45.360]  Okay.
[01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:51.360]  And look through what the other attorneys have filed. My primary skill is a plagiarist.
[01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:56.360]  Why should I rewrite all this stuff when these guys did it for me?
[01:23:56.360 --> 01:24:00.360]  And look how the suit is structured.
[01:24:00.360 --> 01:24:02.360]  Look how they make their claims.
[01:24:02.360 --> 01:24:07.360]  They will make their claims in terms of causes of action.
[01:24:07.360 --> 01:24:12.360]  They will generally start the suit out with a statement of claim.
[01:24:12.360 --> 01:24:16.360]  This is what we were prepared to prove up.
[01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:18.360]  And then they'll go to a statement of facts.
[01:24:18.360 --> 01:24:21.360]  These are the facts we will use to prove this up.
[01:24:21.360 --> 01:24:31.360]  And then a statement of factual accusation where you say based on these facts, this is how we come to this claim.
[01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:33.360]  So they all three kind of fit together.
[01:24:33.360 --> 01:24:39.360]  And then you go to this cause of action, this cause of action, this cause of action.
[01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:43.360]  When you do a tort letter, when I do a tort letter, I make it look like a lawsuit.
[01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:48.360]  I just take the header and footer off the lawsuit and put a business heading on it.
[01:24:48.360 --> 01:24:51.360]  And this is how I've been harmed.
[01:24:51.360 --> 01:24:53.360]  Make me hold a B suit.
[01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:57.360]  And if it looks like a lawsuit, they're going to look at it and say, well, he's already got the lawsuit written.
[01:24:57.360 --> 01:25:05.360]  So he's not just pulling our legs so they're more likely to cut you so, you know, do whatever you want them to do.
[01:25:05.360 --> 01:25:07.360]  If they don't, then just sue them.
[01:25:07.360 --> 01:25:11.360]  They don't cost, if you sue them in the state, it's only $150, $200.
[01:25:11.360 --> 01:25:13.360]  Chalk change.
[01:25:13.360 --> 01:25:17.360]  And you stick them in court and you keep them from, you know, ask for...
[01:25:17.360 --> 01:25:22.360]  Did he say the law was the best research for finding out where to start?
[01:25:22.360 --> 01:25:27.360]  Yeah, probably the go to the court clerk, that's the best place.
[01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:29.360]  And that's where I first started doing research.
[01:25:29.360 --> 01:25:31.360]  It is still the best place.
[01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:36.360]  You start pulling cases and look at the kinds of motions they're filing, how they're structuring the motions.
[01:25:36.360 --> 01:25:40.360]  That can tell you everything you need to know.
[01:25:40.360 --> 01:25:45.360]  Especially if you can find one close, you know, real close to what's going on with you.
[01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:47.360]  You'll find great case law.
[01:25:47.360 --> 01:25:52.360]  You'll find things you can do that you would have never thought about.
[01:25:52.360 --> 01:25:57.360]  That is the first place I would go to do legal research is to the court clerk.
[01:25:57.360 --> 01:26:00.360]  And you'll find that the clerks are very helpful.
[01:26:00.360 --> 01:26:02.360]  Okay.
[01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:06.360]  The clerks are not like prosecutors and police.
[01:26:06.360 --> 01:26:10.360]  They're not generally in a confrontational situation.
[01:26:10.360 --> 01:26:14.360]  So they tend to be more agreeable.
[01:26:14.360 --> 01:26:19.360]  And especially if you go down there and ask for their help, they just tickle to help you out.
[01:26:19.360 --> 01:26:21.360]  Sounds good.
[01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:23.360]  Well, I hope it gives me a good start there.
[01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:27.360]  Could I ask Eddie one quick question, having to do with traffic?
[01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:28.360]  Go ahead.
[01:26:28.360 --> 01:26:29.360]  I don't think it will do you any good.
[01:26:29.360 --> 01:26:30.360]  Go ahead.
[01:26:30.360 --> 01:26:32.360]  Excuse him.
[01:26:32.360 --> 01:26:40.360]  I was just wondering how to enforce the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor traffic.
[01:26:40.360 --> 01:26:46.360]  You file a motion to dismiss beyond the statute of limitations, unprosecutable.
[01:26:46.360 --> 01:26:51.360]  Did you file a demand for speedy trial?
[01:26:51.360 --> 01:26:52.360]  No, sir.
[01:26:52.360 --> 01:26:54.360]  This is something that's been looming over for a while.
[01:26:54.360 --> 01:27:00.360]  To make up a motion, say, I hereby demand a speedy trial, sign it and send it.
[01:27:00.360 --> 01:27:03.360]  But now the question here is, okay, go ahead, Randy.
[01:27:03.360 --> 01:27:06.360]  Then a week later, go in and move to dismiss.
[01:27:06.360 --> 01:27:11.360]  They're going to say, in order for you to move to dismiss, you have to demand your right to a speedy trial.
[01:27:11.360 --> 01:27:15.360]  We'll demand it next week, move to dismiss.
[01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:21.360]  What is currently in the court record associated with the case?
[01:27:21.360 --> 01:27:24.360]  Speeding and-
[01:27:24.360 --> 01:27:25.360]  No, what pieces of paper?
[01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:27.360]  What is the charge?
[01:27:27.360 --> 01:27:32.360]  What pieces of paper are in the court record relating to the case?
[01:27:32.360 --> 01:27:34.360]  Say again.
[01:27:34.360 --> 01:27:38.360]  The citation and a capious order for failure to appear.
[01:27:38.360 --> 01:27:39.360]  A capious.
[01:27:39.360 --> 01:27:42.360]  Well, how can you fail to appear?
[01:27:42.360 --> 01:27:44.360]  This is Texas?
[01:27:44.360 --> 01:27:45.360]  No, I'm sorry.
[01:27:45.360 --> 01:27:46.360]  This is Ohio.
[01:27:46.360 --> 01:27:47.360]  Excuse me.
[01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:49.360]  In Ohio, okay.
[01:27:49.360 --> 01:27:52.360]  What is the statute of limitations?
[01:27:52.360 --> 01:27:53.360]  Wait a minute.
[01:27:53.360 --> 01:27:54.360]  Wait a minute.
[01:27:54.360 --> 01:27:56.360]  There is not one.
[01:27:56.360 --> 01:27:57.360]  Okay.
[01:27:57.360 --> 01:28:02.360]  Once a warrant is issued, the clock stops.
[01:28:02.360 --> 01:28:03.360]  Gotcha.
[01:28:03.360 --> 01:28:06.360]  That's the intelligent answer I was looking for.
[01:28:06.360 --> 01:28:08.360]  Yeah, but here's the problem.
[01:28:08.360 --> 01:28:12.360]  The capious is issued without a complaint.
[01:28:12.360 --> 01:28:18.360]  You need to make sure in Ohio whether or not the statutes allow the citation to act as a complaint
[01:28:18.360 --> 01:28:24.360]  for the purpose of issuing the capious.
[01:28:24.360 --> 01:28:29.360]  I looked at the statutes and I believe I have to look at them again.
[01:28:29.360 --> 01:28:35.360]  At one point it said an information or a complaint or citation is not enough,
[01:28:35.360 --> 01:28:42.360]  and then in the same paragraph it said an issue, a complaint or a warrant is enough.
[01:28:42.360 --> 01:28:51.360]  Something about as long as it has been diligently tried to execute something along those lines.
[01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:54.360]  Yeah, go back and take a look at that.
[01:28:54.360 --> 01:28:55.360]  All right.
[01:28:55.360 --> 01:29:02.360]  But other than that, Randy is correct in that if they filed a warrant while the warrant is un-executed,
[01:29:02.360 --> 01:29:05.360]  there is no speedy trial clock ticking.
[01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:06.360]  Gotcha.
[01:29:06.360 --> 01:29:07.360]  All right.
[01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:09.360]  Well, that helps to dispel some myths I heard.
[01:29:09.360 --> 01:29:10.360]  I appreciate that, guys.
[01:29:10.360 --> 01:29:11.360]  You're welcome.
[01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:12.360]  Have a good one.
[01:29:12.360 --> 01:29:13.360]  You, too.
[01:29:13.360 --> 01:29:14.360]  Thanks.
[01:29:14.360 --> 01:29:15.360]  Bye-bye.
[01:29:15.360 --> 01:29:16.360]  Okay.
[01:29:16.360 --> 01:29:17.360]  All right.
[01:29:17.360 --> 01:29:18.360]  Okay.
[01:29:18.360 --> 01:29:19.360]  Go ahead.
[01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:21.360]  I was just going to say we're coming up on a break,
[01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:27.360]  and I just wanted to touch base about the I Hate the Internet quote that was last May,
[01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:34.360]  actually May 12, 2010, Columbia, Missouri police chief, I Hate the Internet.
[01:29:34.360 --> 01:29:39.360]  This came from a SWAT team raid that was videotaped.
[01:29:39.360 --> 01:29:41.360]  It was posted on YouTube.
[01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:42.360]  It went viral.
[01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:45.360]  I was getting that situation confused with another situation
[01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:47.360]  where another SWAT team had killed a child.
[01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:49.360]  This one, they killed the people's dogs,
[01:29:49.360 --> 01:29:54.360]  and it was all over an anonymous tip that this couple had marijuana,
[01:29:54.360 --> 01:29:58.360]  and the wife and the child sat in the back seat for four hours.
[01:29:58.360 --> 01:30:02.360]  The top ten reasons to question the official story of the Oklahoma City bombing.
[01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:04.360]  Number nine, the extra leg.
[01:30:04.360 --> 01:30:07.360]  Former Oklahoma State medical examiner Dr. Fred Jordan had stated,
[01:30:07.360 --> 01:30:11.360]  we had eight people with amputated left legs and nine left legs to account for.
[01:30:11.360 --> 01:30:14.360]  Chief pathologist for Northern Ireland T.K. Marshall,
[01:30:14.360 --> 01:30:17.360]  who performed over 2,500 autopsies in his time, stated,
[01:30:17.360 --> 01:30:19.360]  there has never been an unknown victim.
[01:30:19.360 --> 01:30:22.360]  This leg belonged to a perpetrator close enough to the bomb
[01:30:22.360 --> 01:30:25.360]  for his body to be damaged, leaving only a left leg behind.
[01:30:25.360 --> 01:30:26.360]  Who was this person?
[01:30:26.360 --> 01:30:34.360]  Please go to okcbombingtruth.com.
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[01:31:39.360 --> 01:31:41.360]  like a needle in a haystack.
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[01:32:08.360 --> 01:32:12.360]  Okay folks, so let me just finish up on this video.
[01:32:12.360 --> 01:32:18.360]  Chief of Police of Columbia, Missouri says, quote, in the town hall meeting,
[01:32:18.360 --> 01:32:23.360]  I hate the Internet, and this is because of the video that went viral on YouTube,
[01:32:23.360 --> 01:32:26.360]  and I'm sure folks you can easily find it on YouTube.
[01:32:26.360 --> 01:32:28.360]  This is a year old video.
[01:32:28.360 --> 01:32:35.360]  This was a SWAT team raid based on an anonymous tip that this couple had marijuana.
[01:32:35.360 --> 01:32:39.360]  Ooh, how dangerous.
[01:32:39.360 --> 01:32:43.360]  And so they brought in the SWAT team, and I'm sorry,
[01:32:43.360 --> 01:32:48.360]  I was getting this SWAT team raid confused with another one that was highly publicized
[01:32:48.360 --> 01:32:50.360]  where a child was shot and killed.
[01:32:50.360 --> 01:32:54.360]  This one, no person was killed, but they did shoot the dogs.
[01:32:54.360 --> 01:32:58.360]  They killed the dogs immediately as soon as they busted down the door,
[01:32:58.360 --> 01:33:03.360]  and they grabbed the wife, the mother, and the seven-year-old son
[01:33:03.360 --> 01:33:10.360]  and held them in handcuffs in the back of one of the cop cars for over four hours
[01:33:10.360 --> 01:33:15.360]  on the street while the SWAT team turned the house upside down,
[01:33:15.360 --> 01:33:21.360]  and they found a minuscule amount of marijuana that they didn't even get charged with,
[01:33:21.360 --> 01:33:26.360]  and they ended up charging the husband with possession of paraphernalia
[01:33:26.360 --> 01:33:30.360]  like a Class C misdemeanor or something, which is like a $300 fine.
[01:33:30.360 --> 01:33:35.360]  And so that's what happened, and that's why the whole town was outraged over this,
[01:33:35.360 --> 01:33:41.360]  that they would use a SWAT team to destroy people's lives based on an anonymous tip
[01:33:41.360 --> 01:33:46.360]  over a bunch of nothing when there was no death threat.
[01:33:46.360 --> 01:33:48.360]  And they kept changing the story.
[01:33:48.360 --> 01:33:53.360]  This is why they got in so much hot water, so to speak, because the police chief was saying,
[01:33:53.360 --> 01:33:57.360]  well, they didn't know that there was a child or any pets present at the time,
[01:33:57.360 --> 01:33:59.360]  which ended up later that was a lie.
[01:33:59.360 --> 01:34:03.360]  And then they tried to say, well, we had to do the SWAT team.
[01:34:03.360 --> 01:34:09.360]  We couldn't just do a normal kind of warrant and arrest situation or inquiry because, you know,
[01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:15.360]  we had to get them before they moved it or before the drugs were gone,
[01:34:15.360 --> 01:34:19.360]  but that ended up that that was a big bunch of bogus story too
[01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:26.360]  because the anonymous tip was received a week, a full week before the raid.
[01:34:26.360 --> 01:34:32.360]  Okay, so this is just police, you know, this is just a case of the police have too much money
[01:34:32.360 --> 01:34:35.360]  and too many toys and too much time on their hands.
[01:34:35.360 --> 01:34:39.360]  That's what this is a case of, honestly, in my opinion.
[01:34:39.360 --> 01:34:42.360]  You know, they're just all ramped up and revved up on adrenaline
[01:34:42.360 --> 01:34:46.360]  and they have too many toys at their disposal and too much money to buy too many toys
[01:34:46.360 --> 01:34:49.360]  and too much time on their hands and nothing better to do.
[01:34:49.360 --> 01:34:54.360]  So let's go take down this family that might have a little piece of pot on them.
[01:34:54.360 --> 01:34:56.360]  And they kill the dogs and everything else.
[01:34:56.360 --> 01:34:58.360]  Too much steroids.
[01:34:58.360 --> 01:35:03.360]  Yeah, that too, talking about drugs when they're the ones that are using drugs.
[01:35:03.360 --> 01:35:08.360]  Okay, anyway, so that was the situation with the quote of the I Hate the Internet,
[01:35:08.360 --> 01:35:10.360]  Missouri Police Chief, Columbia, Missouri Police Chief.
[01:35:10.360 --> 01:35:16.360]  Okay, so we're going to move on now to Tyler in Wyoming.
[01:35:16.360 --> 01:35:17.360]  Tyler, thanks for calling in.
[01:35:17.360 --> 01:35:19.360]  What is your question or comment tonight?
[01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:21.360]  Well, thanks for having me on the air.
[01:35:21.360 --> 01:35:24.360]  I appreciate what you're all doing there.
[01:35:24.360 --> 01:35:29.360]  I just wanted to, what you were saying there, I wanted to comment.
[01:35:29.360 --> 01:35:33.360]  First of all, I feel most of those raids and different things, they're unconstitutional,
[01:35:33.360 --> 01:35:36.360]  they're illegal, they're an abuse of power.
[01:35:36.360 --> 01:35:43.360]  And I think we need to file class action lawsuits against the rogue officials that carry those out.
[01:35:43.360 --> 01:35:49.360]  And usually they are off of a bogus tip or something that's totally unnecessary
[01:35:49.360 --> 01:35:55.360]  and not in accordance with law.
[01:35:55.360 --> 01:36:01.360]  And that's just a sign of our country, we're losing our freedoms
[01:36:01.360 --> 01:36:04.360]  and going more and more into this police power, this police state,
[01:36:04.360 --> 01:36:10.360]  and the people need to stand up and work against that.
[01:36:10.360 --> 01:36:20.360]  But I am calling actually on behalf, my dad had called last week on a traffic ticket in Colorado,
[01:36:20.360 --> 01:36:22.360]  and I have some notes on that.
[01:36:22.360 --> 01:36:27.360]  He was not able to ask some questions, but I have some of his questions.
[01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:34.360]  And should I go through the case again and kind of recap it or just ask a couple questions here?
[01:36:34.360 --> 01:36:36.360]  Whatever you think will work.
[01:36:36.360 --> 01:36:41.360]  Okay. What it's doing is it's a traffic citation in Colorado that says,
[01:36:41.360 --> 01:36:44.360]  I believe no safety belt as well.
[01:36:44.360 --> 01:36:49.360]  And the first thing he had motioned was for a trial by jury by the Seventh Amendment,
[01:36:49.360 --> 01:36:52.360]  which is a guaranteed right, should be in America.
[01:36:52.360 --> 01:37:00.360]  But the magistrate had said that the court rules did not allow for that.
[01:37:00.360 --> 01:37:07.360]  And as you said, Eddie, that would be a legislative violation of the Constitution.
[01:37:07.360 --> 01:37:10.360]  And that law is null and void on its face.
[01:37:10.360 --> 01:37:13.360]  And that was correct.
[01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:18.360]  And we're going to bring that up, by the way, in a judicial conduct complaint.
[01:37:18.360 --> 01:37:23.360]  But my other question for you guys was, Randy,
[01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:32.360]  you said something like we need to file an official misconduct complaint against the magistrate.
[01:37:32.360 --> 01:37:37.360]  And the reason for that was, besides not allowing the jury,
[01:37:37.360 --> 01:37:43.360]  the judge did not answer the motion for dismissal.
[01:37:43.360 --> 01:37:45.360]  He filed four things.
[01:37:45.360 --> 01:37:53.360]  He filed a motion for dismissal, a motion for trial by jury, a motion for continuance,
[01:37:53.360 --> 01:37:55.360]  and a motion of interrogatory.
[01:37:55.360 --> 01:37:58.360]  And the interrogatory is restricted.
[01:37:58.360 --> 01:38:03.360]  Okay. This is a perfect question.
[01:38:03.360 --> 01:38:07.360]  I get to tell you an Aussie story.
[01:38:07.360 --> 01:38:11.360]  I'm in Australia at the moment, and a couple days ago I went to Sydney
[01:38:11.360 --> 01:38:20.360]  and went to the Supreme Court and watched a pro se individual really hammer the court.
[01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:26.360]  He's demanding a jury trial, and they're not wanting to give him a jury trial.
[01:38:26.360 --> 01:38:33.360]  The reason he was in court is he had filed motions in a case,
[01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:37.360]  and the judge refused to hear the motions.
[01:38:37.360 --> 01:38:44.360]  So he charged the judge with outlawry and sued him for outlawry.
[01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:48.360]  Now, we had talked about that a time or two here on the air.
[01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:53.360]  A friend of mine out of Dallas came up with this, that, you know,
[01:38:53.360 --> 01:38:58.360]  in the federal constitution, outlawry is forbidden.
[01:38:58.360 --> 01:39:05.360]  And what outlawry is, when you hear the term outlaw, what it really used to mean,
[01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:09.360]  it didn't mean that you were out violating law.
[01:39:09.360 --> 01:39:14.360]  It meant that you were set outside the protection of the law.
[01:39:14.360 --> 01:39:22.360]  And if you were declared an outlaw, a person could shoot you or kill you with impunity
[01:39:22.360 --> 01:39:26.360]  because there was no legal protection for you.
[01:39:26.360 --> 01:39:35.360]  Our constitution forbade our government from denying someone the protection of the laws.
[01:39:35.360 --> 01:39:41.360]  And this guy, this is, they fought, Australia is under the crown,
[01:39:41.360 --> 01:39:44.360]  so they're under the English law.
[01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:52.360]  And this judge denied him the protection of the laws, and he has sued the judge personally.
[01:39:52.360 --> 01:39:56.360]  And the judge hasn't gotten it thrown out.
[01:39:56.360 --> 01:40:00.360]  So this was an act that the judge had no discretion to commit.
[01:40:00.360 --> 01:40:08.360]  So if you have a judge that refused to hear a motion, that's exactly what this goes to.
[01:40:08.360 --> 01:40:13.360]  That is not a discretion that he has.
[01:40:13.360 --> 01:40:19.360]  So I would look at official misconduct against a judge for exerting
[01:40:19.360 --> 01:40:24.360]  or purporting to exert the authority to deny you the protection of the laws,
[01:40:24.360 --> 01:40:28.360]  or your father, the protection of the laws, outlawry.
[01:40:28.360 --> 01:40:34.360]  They would never have seen that one here, but it was good to see it in other places,
[01:40:34.360 --> 01:40:39.360]  because here the claim of outlawry wasn't surprising,
[01:40:39.360 --> 01:40:41.360]  and this is something they do all the time.
[01:40:41.360 --> 01:40:45.360]  So there would be legal backing for it.
[01:40:45.360 --> 01:40:48.360]  Okay. That answers that question.
[01:40:48.360 --> 01:40:53.360]  I wondered, you said that, and you filed this official misconduct complaint.
[01:40:53.360 --> 01:40:57.360]  I thought you said you did this in the form of a criminal complaint form.
[01:40:57.360 --> 01:40:59.360]  Is that correct?
[01:40:59.360 --> 01:41:02.360]  Exactly. This is a criminal accusation.
[01:41:02.360 --> 01:41:04.360]  You don't file it in this court.
[01:41:04.360 --> 01:41:10.360]  You file this with the prosecuting attorney who will absolutely refuse to accept it.
[01:41:10.360 --> 01:41:12.360]  Okay. In this case, there is the prosecuting attorney.
[01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:16.360]  It's just the officer acting as an attorney, which is actually, you know,
[01:41:16.360 --> 01:41:18.360]  that should be a tantrum.
[01:41:18.360 --> 01:41:21.360]  That should get barotry against the officer.
[01:41:21.360 --> 01:41:23.360]  That should be what?
[01:41:23.360 --> 01:41:27.360]  Barotry, D-A-R-A-T-R-Y. Look that one up.
[01:41:27.360 --> 01:41:33.360]  In Texas law, it's the penal code 38123,
[01:41:33.360 --> 01:41:37.360]  but I'm not sure what it would be in Colorado law, but look up barotry.
[01:41:37.360 --> 01:41:43.360]  Barotry is where a person, a licensed professional,
[01:41:43.360 --> 01:41:48.360]  let's see, a person holds himself out as a licensed professional.
[01:41:48.360 --> 01:41:51.360]  It's 38.12 in Texas, Randy.
[01:41:51.360 --> 01:41:55.360]  123 is holding oneself out to be a lawyer.
[01:41:55.360 --> 01:41:59.360]  Okay.
[01:41:59.360 --> 01:42:02.360]  I'm sorry, 122 is holding himself out to be a lawyer,
[01:42:02.360 --> 01:42:04.360]  and 123 is unauthorized practice in law.
[01:42:04.360 --> 01:42:06.360]  12 is barotry.
[01:42:06.360 --> 01:42:08.360]  12, okay.
[01:42:08.360 --> 01:42:13.360]  But look at barotry.
[01:42:13.360 --> 01:42:18.360]  This guy is a police officer was representing a corporation before the court.
[01:42:18.360 --> 01:42:20.360]  Right.
[01:42:20.360 --> 01:42:24.360]  Corporations are not real living souls.
[01:42:24.360 --> 01:42:28.360]  Therefore, they are fictitious creations of the state,
[01:42:28.360 --> 01:42:32.360]  and therefore must be represented by counsel.
[01:42:32.360 --> 01:42:39.360]  They take that claim against the officer and accuse the judge of aiding and abetting,
[01:42:39.360 --> 01:42:46.360]  so he is equally guilty of barotry and accused the judge of outlawry.
[01:42:46.360 --> 01:42:50.360]  Outlawry should jerk a knot in their shorts.
[01:42:50.360 --> 01:42:53.360]  Now they're looking at one that's likely to go to the Supreme,
[01:42:53.360 --> 01:42:56.360]  and they're not going to like that.
[01:42:56.360 --> 01:43:02.360]  Do you do that all in the same official misconduct complaint?
[01:43:02.360 --> 01:43:03.360]  No, no, no.
[01:43:03.360 --> 01:43:07.360]  You can do official misconduct complaint, you can,
[01:43:07.360 --> 01:43:10.360]  but when it comes to complaints,
[01:43:10.360 --> 01:43:15.360]  each criminal accusation should be a totally separate action.
[01:43:15.360 --> 01:43:16.360]  Okay.
[01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:21.360]  Even if they were all committed in part of the same ongoing actions,
[01:43:21.360 --> 01:43:24.360]  each complaint is separate.
[01:43:24.360 --> 01:43:28.360]  It's a separate prosecution, so it should be a separate document.
[01:43:28.360 --> 01:43:29.360]  Right.
[01:43:29.360 --> 01:43:31.360]  And then run the standard routine on.
[01:43:31.360 --> 01:43:36.360]  You have a good grand jury system in Colorado.
[01:43:36.360 --> 01:43:38.360]  Okay.
[01:43:38.360 --> 01:43:41.360]  You should have a lot of fun with this, and keep us up to date.
[01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:45.360]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:43:45.360 --> 01:43:47.360]  We're going into our last session.
[01:43:47.360 --> 01:43:49.360]  We've got three callers.
[01:43:49.360 --> 01:43:52.360]  So, Tyler, we're going to move along.
[01:43:52.360 --> 01:43:55.360]  Thank you for calling here, and keep us up to date.
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[01:46:50.360 --> 01:46:56.360]  We are going to skip down the call list, so Danny, Dan, if you would bear with us, please.
[01:46:56.360 --> 01:46:59.360]  We like to take first-time callers first to the head of the list.
[01:46:59.360 --> 01:47:06.360]  Mike from Texas, first-time caller, what is your question or comment for us tonight?
[01:47:06.360 --> 01:47:10.360]  And thank you for calling in, by the way. Mike, you there?
[01:47:10.360 --> 01:47:11.360]  Yes, hello, hello.
[01:47:11.360 --> 01:47:14.360]  Okay, thank you, first-time caller. Please tell us what is on your mind.
[01:47:14.360 --> 01:47:22.360]  Okay, basically, I'm trying to obtain info on a speeding ticket that was marked visual and radar.
[01:47:22.360 --> 01:47:24.360]  Hold on, Mike, are you on a speakerphone?
[01:47:24.360 --> 01:47:25.360]  Yeah, I can...
[01:47:25.360 --> 01:47:30.360]  Yeah, can you please not use a speakerphone? My call screener should have told you, and I'm sure he did.
[01:47:30.360 --> 01:47:32.360]  Sorry about that. Can you hear me better now?
[01:47:32.360 --> 01:47:34.360]  Yes, thank you. Go ahead, please.
[01:47:34.360 --> 01:47:40.360]  So basically, I'll start over. I was trying to obtain help on a speeding ticket that was marked visual and radar.
[01:47:40.360 --> 01:47:44.360]  There was no violation code provided on the ticket.
[01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:52.360]  And basically, I asked to see a judge when I went to the municipal court, was told to sign a blank digital pad.
[01:47:52.360 --> 01:47:57.360]  This sign involuntarily waived my right to a jury.
[01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:07.360]  And then basically, today, I went to the local municipal court to submit a record request to find out what I was actually being charged of
[01:48:07.360 --> 01:48:14.360]  so that I could find out my charging instrument, and they couldn't provide me with any paperwork.
[01:48:14.360 --> 01:48:19.360]  Okay. Let's back this up here for just one second.
[01:48:19.360 --> 01:48:22.360]  All right. First thing is, you're in Austin.
[01:48:22.360 --> 01:48:23.360]  Yes.
[01:48:23.360 --> 01:48:34.360]  Right? Okay. Now, the visual and radar is what they say when they first get a measurement with a radar gun, and then they do a visual distance check.
[01:48:34.360 --> 01:48:36.360]  They time you over distance.
[01:48:36.360 --> 01:48:38.360]  Okay? Okay.
[01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:46.360]  Now, you went down and you signed the little pad at the clerk's desk.
[01:48:46.360 --> 01:48:48.360]  Correct.
[01:48:48.360 --> 01:48:51.360]  And they printed out a piece of paper and gave it to you.
[01:48:51.360 --> 01:48:53.360]  Correct.
[01:48:53.360 --> 01:48:57.360]  And your signature was put on that piece of paper, correct?
[01:48:57.360 --> 01:48:59.360]  Yes. Yes, I believe so.
[01:48:59.360 --> 01:49:03.360]  Were you told what your signature was going to be placed on?
[01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:05.360]  No. They told me-
[01:49:05.360 --> 01:49:13.360]  Were you told what the contents of the document would be that it was to be placed on?
[01:49:13.360 --> 01:49:16.360]  I had to sign this to see the judge. That's what I was told.
[01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:18.360]  No, no, no. Answer my questions first.
[01:49:18.360 --> 01:49:19.360]  Okay.
[01:49:19.360 --> 01:49:25.360]  Okay. Did they tell you what would be contained in the document?
[01:49:25.360 --> 01:49:26.360]  No.
[01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:34.360]  Did they tell you that placing your signature on that pad would be reproduced on some document?
[01:49:34.360 --> 01:49:36.360]  Not that I can recollect, no.
[01:49:36.360 --> 01:49:45.360]  Congratulations. You are now a victim of identity theft and falsification of a government document.
[01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:47.360]  Okay.
[01:49:47.360 --> 01:49:56.360]  Those are allegations you need to make. You also need to file a motion to withdraw the falsely entered plea.
[01:49:56.360 --> 01:49:57.360]  Okay?
[01:49:57.360 --> 01:49:59.360]  Okay.
[01:49:59.360 --> 01:50:08.360]  So you will file a motion for a jury trial rescinding whatever is on the paperwork that said you waived your right to a jury trial.
[01:50:08.360 --> 01:50:09.360]  Okay.
[01:50:09.360 --> 01:50:16.360]  But in each of those documents, you will make the accusation that the clerk, without your knowledge and consent,
[01:50:16.360 --> 01:50:30.360]  falsely captured your signature for the purpose of creating falsified documentation using your identity.
[01:50:30.360 --> 01:50:32.360]  Okay.
[01:50:32.360 --> 01:50:37.360]  Let's see how that falls on the rain hat.
[01:50:37.360 --> 01:50:44.360]  Sounds great. Yeah, I had no idea what I was signing. There was nothing on that pad.
[01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:49.360]  You're not the first person to fall victim to that. I'm helping another gentleman with the same issue.
[01:50:49.360 --> 01:50:50.360]  He signed the pad.
[01:50:50.360 --> 01:50:54.360]  People, don't sign the pad.
[01:50:54.360 --> 01:51:04.360]  Take your recorder to the clerk and let the clerk state they are refusing to let you see the magistrate,
[01:51:04.360 --> 01:51:11.360]  and they are the reason that you are not able to comply with the notice to appear.
[01:51:11.360 --> 01:51:14.360]  This will put the clerk on the spot.
[01:51:14.360 --> 01:51:24.360]  Let the magistrate issue a warrant for failure to appear when the clerk is the one that blocked your access to the magistrate to begin with.
[01:51:24.360 --> 01:51:30.360]  By the time we're done, there will be a class action lawsuit against the city of Austin that is so big,
[01:51:30.360 --> 01:51:40.360]  the employees of the city will have to go home and get their personal piggy banks to pay it.
[01:51:40.360 --> 01:51:42.360]  Any other questions?
[01:51:42.360 --> 01:51:47.360]  No, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it.
[01:51:47.360 --> 01:51:49.360]  Not a problem.
[01:51:49.360 --> 01:51:54.360]  And come down Sunday nights to Brave New Books.
[01:51:54.360 --> 01:51:57.360]  Sunday afternoons, 2 to 5.
[01:51:57.360 --> 01:51:59.360]  Brave New Books, okay.
[01:51:59.360 --> 01:52:03.360]  Yep, Brave New Books, Guadalupe and Martin Luther King.
[01:52:03.360 --> 01:52:04.360]  Okay, excellent.
[01:52:04.360 --> 01:52:12.360]  I teach a seminar down there on exactly how to go after these people in the courts for doing exactly this thing.
[01:52:12.360 --> 01:52:20.360]  But now that I'm getting multiple people complaining about the digital pad, that means I just got to generate more paperwork now.
[01:52:20.360 --> 01:52:21.360]  All right.
[01:52:21.360 --> 01:52:31.360]  Well, I'll call back in and tell you all how it went, and I'll try and get down there to your guys' location on Sundays.
[01:52:31.360 --> 01:52:33.360]  And what time was that?
[01:52:33.360 --> 01:52:34.360]  2 to 5.
[01:52:34.360 --> 01:52:38.360]  2 to 5. Excellent. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it.
[01:52:38.360 --> 01:52:39.360]  Yes, sir.
[01:52:39.360 --> 01:52:41.360]  Bye.
[01:52:41.360 --> 01:52:43.360]  All right, thank you, Mike.
[01:52:43.360 --> 01:52:48.360]  Okay, we're going now to Danny in Texas.
[01:52:48.360 --> 01:52:53.360]  Danny, what is your question or your comment for us tonight?
[01:52:53.360 --> 01:53:04.360]  Okay, well, a little peculiar situation it seems that I haven't heard of before, but I was traveling up Tennessee back around Christmas time for a visit,
[01:53:04.360 --> 01:53:31.360]  ended up with a traffic deal there, and I used an approach that I know of someone else that used on a more serious chart to work pretty well in getting the prosecutor into a private agreement through administrative process where they default and don't answer, and so they end up agreeing with it.
[01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:45.360]  Well, and I got back up there to the court like, you know, two, three months later after the first, after the ticket, and go in the court, and I tried to bring up the prosecutor to see what he was planning on doing,
[01:53:45.360 --> 01:53:53.360]  and first act like he didn't know what anything was, and then brought up about the agreement, oh, well, we don't recognize that, and da-da-da-da,
[01:53:53.360 --> 01:54:03.360]  and then danced around different things and then offered to let me sign to either have a preliminary hearing or we just go right on to a trial on the merits.
[01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:08.360]  Well, why would I do that where he got an agreement for what I would want?
[01:54:08.360 --> 01:54:21.360]  I'm just there to see him perform, and when they called it up later and the judge was there and called it up, I, you know, headed off up there until I get right to the bar,
[01:54:21.360 --> 01:54:29.360]  and I said by special appearance if that was agreeable to the judge, well, like he didn't know what this was and one thing or another.
[01:54:29.360 --> 01:54:40.360]  Anyway, I just stayed on the facts of the agreement because I had a copy to the judge got to him the day before.
[01:54:40.360 --> 01:54:55.360]  This is all through a notary, so all my copies were certified copies by the notary of what had taken place because using her as my custodian of records for this,
[01:54:55.360 --> 01:55:06.360]  and kind of danced around, well, there wasn't really an agreement and this and that, but finally gave up and left and just sit for me to see the clerk.
[01:55:06.360 --> 01:55:16.360]  So finally get over there and, you know, paper about another hearing about three months later.
[01:55:16.360 --> 01:55:26.360]  Well, I didn't notice it at the time, but just the other day checking and I see that it is at a different court, and I don't know how I got there.
[01:55:26.360 --> 01:55:38.360]  It looks like it corresponds to, well, it corresponds to county court because at least the next higher court, the only way I know to get there like that would be by an appeal,
[01:55:38.360 --> 01:55:48.360]  but there was no plea and there was no trial, and so I got to get there a day early to look in the file to see what's there,
[01:55:48.360 --> 01:55:58.360]  but kind of thing and just, you know, get there and I just make inquiries of how this case come to be at that court and then one thing or another
[01:55:58.360 --> 01:56:08.360]  and see if there was a, the judge signed an order or anything or they did something that makes it look as if there was a trial conviction.
[01:56:08.360 --> 01:56:18.360]  Have you requested a copy of the court record to see if there was a motion for change of venue?
[01:56:18.360 --> 01:56:26.360]  Well, no, a motion for change of venue wasn't presented to me to oppose or not.
[01:56:26.360 --> 01:56:32.360]  That's why you want to look in the court record to see if it was put in the court record and not sent to you.
[01:56:32.360 --> 01:56:38.360]  There may be something in the record indicating how it got to this other court.
[01:56:38.360 --> 01:56:46.360]  If there's not anything in the record, then you could object to this court is not having jurisdiction.
[01:56:46.360 --> 01:56:54.360]  You know, an in-charge, the judge, whoever summoned you here with abusive process.
[01:56:54.360 --> 01:56:59.360]  Well, give him a bill for your cost and show it up.
[01:56:59.360 --> 01:57:05.360]  Showing a summons is just a slip saying for me to be at this other court.
[01:57:05.360 --> 01:57:12.360]  Yeah, but that's a summons. You're under bail and any request is a summons.
[01:57:12.360 --> 01:57:15.360]  It's not a polite request. It's an either or.
[01:57:15.360 --> 01:57:27.360]  So if they have you come there and he has no authority, you want him to pay for your time and trouble to show up and charge him with abusive process.
[01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:30.360]  Get your attention.
[01:57:30.360 --> 01:57:36.360]  Give him reason to show cause as to why he can sit in the court.
[01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:41.360]  He won't just get to ignore it.
[01:57:41.360 --> 01:57:45.360]  You might send him a tort letter as well.
[01:57:45.360 --> 01:57:51.360]  And since you live in Texas and he sent you this in Texas.
[01:57:51.360 --> 01:57:55.360]  No, it was in the courtroom before I left.
[01:57:55.360 --> 01:57:57.360]  Oh, okay. So they didn't mail it to you.
[01:57:57.360 --> 01:58:06.360]  Right. He said, you know, they just basically abandoned the courtroom and said for me to to check with the clerk.
[01:58:06.360 --> 01:58:10.360]  And that's what you had for me.
[01:58:10.360 --> 01:58:14.360]  Hmm. Well, I have no idea what to do with that.
[01:58:14.360 --> 01:58:19.360]  This was going on. There was like two other prosecutors who didn't have anything to do with the court there.
[01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:25.360]  It seemed to be just there to laugh at the prosecutor trying to deal with it.
[01:58:25.360 --> 01:58:29.360]  Probably.
[01:58:29.360 --> 01:58:31.360]  All right, Danny, we're out of time.
[01:58:31.360 --> 01:58:35.360]  All right. Thanks.
[01:58:35.360 --> 01:58:37.360]  Go ahead, Randy.
[01:58:37.360 --> 01:58:40.360]  Okay. I was just going to close this out, but he's probably right.
[01:58:40.360 --> 01:58:44.360]  They were there to watch this other guy squirm.
[01:58:44.360 --> 01:58:48.360]  Okay. This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio.
[01:58:48.360 --> 01:58:51.360]  We'll be back tomorrow with our four hour marathon.
[01:58:51.360 --> 01:58:56.360]  And since I'm stuck here in Australia, I think I'll go jump in a surf.
[01:58:56.360 --> 01:58:59.360]  Poor me. This is tough.
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