[00:00.000 --> 00:08.880]  The Justice Department has quietly dropped its investigation of Angelo Muzzillo, former
[00:08.880 --> 00:13.640]  head of Countrywide Financial, the largest originator of failed subprime mortgages that
[00:13.640 --> 00:17.000]  triggered the financial crash of 2008.
[00:17.000 --> 00:22.760]  Last year, Muzzillo agreed to pay the Securities and Exchange Commission $67.5 million to
[00:22.760 --> 00:27.240]  avoid a civil trial on fraud and insider trading charges.
[00:27.240 --> 00:31.800]  The fine underscored Oscar-winning director Charles Ferguson's contention Sunday that
[00:31.800 --> 00:36.320]  not a single financial executive has gone to jail.
[00:36.320 --> 00:41.820]  A prominent union leader in Venezuela, Rubén González, was sentenced recently to seven
[00:41.820 --> 00:47.760]  years in prison over a 2009 strike at the state iron ore mining company over unpaid
[00:47.760 --> 00:48.760]  wages.
[00:48.760 --> 00:54.720]  Venezuela's President, Hugo Chávez, has claimed he is building a socialist society, but González,
[00:54.720 --> 00:58.800]  a former supporter of Chávez, has accused the government of criminalizing dissent in
[00:58.800 --> 00:59.800]  Venezuela.
[00:59.800 --> 01:03.960]  His conviction has sparked widespread protests.
[01:03.960 --> 01:08.600]  Egypt's interim Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik has resigned following weeks of anti-government
[01:08.600 --> 01:13.280]  protests demanding that the government be purged of all remnants of ousted President
[01:13.280 --> 01:15.360]  Hosni Mubarak's regime.
[01:15.360 --> 01:20.280]  He will be replaced by former Transport Minister Essam Sharraf, who was in charge after Mubarak
[01:20.280 --> 01:22.800]  resigned February 11th.
[01:22.800 --> 01:26.480]  Police have also called for the release of political prisoners, the lifting of a 30-year-old
[01:26.480 --> 01:31.880]  state of emergency, and the disbandment of military court.
[01:31.880 --> 01:36.560]  At least five women were killed Thursday by forces loyal to the Ivory Coast illegitimate
[01:36.560 --> 01:40.400]  president, the Romp Bagbo, in the capital, Abidjan.
[01:40.400 --> 01:45.760]  The deaths occurred after several hundred women demonstrated in support of Alicen Artura,
[01:45.760 --> 01:50.280]  the internationally recognized winner of last November's elections, shouting Bagbo, get
[01:50.280 --> 01:51.280]  out.
[01:51.280 --> 01:55.960]  A armored personnel carrier and several pickup vehicles arrived and opened fire.
[01:55.960 --> 02:01.080]  Running street battles have flared up recently between police loyal to Bagbo and rebel soldiers
[02:01.080 --> 02:02.640]  allied with Artura.
[02:02.640 --> 02:08.920]  The UN's refugee agency says more than 200,000 people have fled, expressing alarm at, quote,
[02:08.920 --> 02:14.120]  reports of many dead bodies, buses burned and shops looted, and of young militiamen
[02:14.120 --> 02:17.680]  attacking people inside their homes.
[02:17.680 --> 02:22.760]  A Yemeni human rights group said Thursday it was alarmed by a string of arrests of activists
[02:22.760 --> 02:28.240]  in the south, where a crackdown on protests demanding U.S.-backed president Ali Abdullah
[02:28.240 --> 02:31.480]  Saleh resign has been most severe.
[02:31.480 --> 02:35.720]  The Yemeni Organization for the Defense of Human Rights and Democratic Freedoms said
[02:35.720 --> 02:41.120]  five southern activists plus two others were arrested this week and five other activists
[02:41.120 --> 02:44.680]  arrested Sunday and were being held incommunicado.
[02:44.680 --> 02:49.320]  Saleh, who has also faced intermittent war with Shiite insurgents in the north, has long
[02:49.320 --> 03:16.720]  struggled to curb secessionists in the south.
[03:20.320 --> 03:46.920]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[03:46.920 --> 03:49.320]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:49.320 --> 03:52.320]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[03:52.320 --> 03:54.920]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[03:54.920 --> 04:00.320]  When you were eight and you had bad trees, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule.
[04:00.320 --> 04:03.120]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[04:03.120 --> 04:05.720]  If you get hot, then you must get cool.
[04:05.720 --> 04:08.720]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[04:08.720 --> 04:11.120]  What you gonna do when they come for you?
[04:11.120 --> 04:27.720]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[04:27.720 --> 04:31.120]  Bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do?
[04:31.120 --> 04:36.720]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you here on the Rule of Law,
[04:36.720 --> 04:38.320]  Rule of Law Radio?
[04:38.320 --> 04:46.520]  Today is Thursday, March 3rd, 2011, and we've got a jam-packed show for you guys tonight.
[04:46.520 --> 04:52.520]  We're going to talk about some federal issues, some local issues, state issues, jury tampering
[04:52.520 --> 04:56.920]  issues, vaccine issues.
[04:56.920 --> 05:04.520]  First, I would like to go over this recent Supreme Court ruling regarding vaccines,
[05:04.520 --> 05:07.320]  regarding the liability of vaccine makers.
[05:07.320 --> 05:15.720]  This case is, I hope I'm pronouncing this right, Brucewitz v. Wyeth, LLC.
[05:15.720 --> 05:24.720]  This woman sued a vaccine company maker, Hannah Brucewitz, sorry, she suffered from severe
[05:24.720 --> 05:31.320]  brain injury, developmental delays, and lifelong seizure disorders after receiving a so-called
[05:31.320 --> 05:33.520]  mandated DPT vaccine.
[05:33.520 --> 05:38.120]  DPT is diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
[05:38.120 --> 05:42.280]  And by the way, I'm just going to comment on this, guaranteed it wasn't mandated.
[05:42.280 --> 05:50.020]  There is no law that I know of in any state whatsoever that requires children to have
[05:50.020 --> 05:55.520]  any vaccine at all as a prerequisite for enrolling in public school.
[05:55.520 --> 05:56.520]  Okay?
[05:56.520 --> 05:58.620]  That is just policy.
[05:58.620 --> 06:02.120]  There is no law that requires that anywhere that I know of.
[06:02.120 --> 06:05.120]  So to say mandated is pretty much a misnomer.
[06:05.120 --> 06:12.520]  But at any rate, apparently it was her parents that sued this vaccine maker over this DPT
[06:12.520 --> 06:13.520]  vaccine.
[06:13.520 --> 06:20.720]  Now, here's the very interesting point regarding this case that made it all the way to the
[06:20.720 --> 06:21.720]  Supreme Court.
[06:21.720 --> 06:25.920]  The Supreme Court just handed down a ruling on February 24th.
[06:25.920 --> 06:29.080]  What they ruled, they ruled against her.
[06:29.080 --> 06:36.600]  They indemnified the vaccine maker because they say the Supreme Court considers vaccines
[06:36.600 --> 06:42.720]  to be quote, unquote, unavoidably unsafe products.
[06:42.720 --> 06:48.920]  In other words, if you take a vaccine, you're doing so at your own risk, pal.
[06:48.920 --> 06:49.920]  Okay?
[06:49.920 --> 06:54.980]  It's kind of like playing by the railroad tracks or playing on the railroad tracks.
[06:54.980 --> 07:01.360]  You get your foot stuck in the tracks, the train's coming, you can't sue the train conductor
[07:01.360 --> 07:05.840]  because you should have known better, you shouldn't have been doing that to begin with.
[07:05.840 --> 07:07.640]  That's the basic line of reasoning.
[07:07.640 --> 07:09.240]  And I'm going to break it down here.
[07:09.240 --> 07:11.600]  I've read this opinion.
[07:11.600 --> 07:17.920]  And I have to say that in a way, I agree with the, and on the one hand, I agree with the
[07:17.920 --> 07:22.080]  Supreme Court, but on another hand, I don't agree and I'm going to explain why.
[07:22.080 --> 07:27.720]  They're going to this statute called the Restatement of Torts.
[07:27.720 --> 07:32.120]  And they're citing paragraphs from Restatement of Torts, the Restatement of Torts Acts.
[07:32.120 --> 07:33.720]  I don't know what USC number that is.
[07:33.720 --> 07:35.640]  I don't know if it has a USC number.
[07:35.640 --> 07:38.800]  It's just the Restatement of Torts, Section 402A.
[07:38.800 --> 07:42.960]  This was an act in 1963, 1964.
[07:42.960 --> 07:49.480]  Okay, the Restatement of Torts Acts, Congress generally holds, I'm quoting from the opinion
[07:49.480 --> 07:50.480]  here.
[07:50.480 --> 07:57.320]  Congress generally holds a manufacturer strictly liable for harm to person or property caused
[07:57.320 --> 08:04.720]  by, quote, any product in a defective condition, unreasonably dangerous to the user.
[08:04.720 --> 08:08.400]  All right, this would include, and now here's my own comments.
[08:08.400 --> 08:15.000]  This would include a defective design, okay, which basically this case is about.
[08:15.000 --> 08:25.560]  It's not about that there was a flaw in the manufacturing that didn't meet the design.
[08:25.560 --> 08:29.240]  The case was about the design itself is unsafe.
[08:29.240 --> 08:36.560]  Well, the Restatement of Torts holds that the manufacturer is strictly liable for any
[08:36.560 --> 08:41.960]  harm to person or property caused by any product in a defective condition, unreasonably dangerous
[08:41.960 --> 08:42.960]  to the user.
[08:42.960 --> 08:46.640]  However, there's an exemption from this.
[08:46.640 --> 08:52.360]  There's an exemption in the statute from the strict liability rule regarding what is called,
[08:52.360 --> 08:58.400]  quote, unquote, unavoidably unsafe products.
[08:58.400 --> 09:07.600]  Now an unavoidably unsafe product is a product that is, quote, quite incapable of being made
[09:07.600 --> 09:13.560]  safer for its intended use, okay?
[09:13.560 --> 09:21.920]  So what the Supreme Court is saying is that there's no way that the design of vaccines
[09:21.920 --> 09:28.960]  across the board can even be designed to be any safer.
[09:28.960 --> 09:34.680]  Therefore they are classified as unavoidably unsafe products.
[09:34.680 --> 09:40.400]  And so therefore you take it at your own risk, the manufacturer cannot be held responsible.
[09:40.400 --> 09:48.200]  Now I have to disagree when the court says that these vaccines across the board are incapable
[09:48.200 --> 09:51.160]  of being made safer for intended use.
[09:51.160 --> 09:57.120]  It has been shown time and time again, and I didn't have time to pull up all these sites
[09:57.120 --> 10:01.560]  and links for you guys, but you know, you can just do your own research, it has been
[10:01.560 --> 10:10.880]  shown time and time again where manufacturers have intentionally put in live viruses to
[10:10.880 --> 10:18.440]  cause cancer, live viruses that have nothing to do with the virus that they're allegedly
[10:18.440 --> 10:21.160]  vaccinating you against.
[10:21.160 --> 10:27.200]  I would say in many of these cases it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt some
[10:27.200 --> 10:34.520]  of these vaccines are intentionally harmful, especially some of these like polio vaccines
[10:34.520 --> 10:40.520]  and such that they have given to people in third world countries in Africa where there
[10:40.520 --> 10:46.720]  were viruses in the vaccines, intentional viruses in the vaccines to sterilize these
[10:46.720 --> 10:50.980]  people for the purpose of population control, this is mainstream media, okay?
[10:50.980 --> 10:57.920]  So I would say that I have to disagree with the court when they are classifying these
[10:57.920 --> 11:03.360]  vaccines as being incapable of being made safer for intended use, but that's what they're
[11:03.360 --> 11:08.600]  saying and I'm going to scroll down here, just give me a moment, let me scroll down
[11:08.600 --> 11:10.780]  here to this page here, all right?
[11:10.780 --> 11:18.340]  They are saying regarding unavoidably unsafe products, the exemption for unavoidably unsafe
[11:18.340 --> 11:26.360]  products applies with the qualification that they are properly prepared and marketed and
[11:26.360 --> 11:29.600]  the proper warning is given.
[11:29.600 --> 11:32.680]  Well, that's what's happening folks.
[11:32.680 --> 11:42.520]  If you go to take a vaccine, read the inserts, it's about 30 pages long and it lists on and
[11:42.520 --> 11:51.200]  on and on seizures, death, brain damage, paralysis, everything you can, any possible medical anomaly
[11:51.200 --> 11:58.160]  that you can imagine and illness and cancer and sickness will be listed in these inserts
[11:58.160 --> 12:01.400]  for almost every vaccine.
[12:01.400 --> 12:08.600]  Now I would say that that is a proper warning given and so that is what the Supreme Court
[12:08.600 --> 12:20.040]  has said, they make a very clear difference between an unavoidably unsafe product and
[12:20.040 --> 12:23.840]  side effects that are unavoidable, okay?
[12:23.840 --> 12:28.920]  They're not saying that side effects, the Supreme Court did not rule, see if it had
[12:28.920 --> 12:35.000]  to do with side effects that were unavoidable, then you could sue the vaccine maker, but
[12:35.000 --> 12:41.000]  they're not saying that, the statute very clearly makes a difference between side effects
[12:41.000 --> 12:48.680]  that are unavoidable and marketing that doesn't meet the standards of the intended design
[12:48.680 --> 12:53.920]  and things like that, there's all these different levels of tort.
[12:53.920 --> 13:00.240]  They're not saying any of that applies, they're saying it's an unavoidably unsafe product,
[13:00.240 --> 13:06.120]  there's no way that the manufacturers can even make the design safer for its intended
[13:06.120 --> 13:12.840]  use, so there you go, you are, everyone has put on notice as of now from this Supreme
[13:12.840 --> 13:18.280]  Court ruling, you've already been put on notice because all you have to do is read the inserts,
[13:18.280 --> 13:24.360]  so is there any doubt left in anyone's mind within the sound of my voice that you should
[13:24.360 --> 13:28.880]  not be taking any vaccines at all and you definitely should not be giving them to your
[13:28.880 --> 13:35.880]  children, okay, so that's my rant on this Supreme Court case and like I said, I somewhat
[13:35.880 --> 13:41.960]  have to agree with them, you're playing on the railroad tracks if you go to take a vaccine,
[13:41.960 --> 13:48.520]  you can't sue the train conductor when you get hit by the train, the only dissent I have
[13:48.520 --> 13:54.040]  with the Supreme Court is regarding the fact that they're saying there's no way the design
[13:54.040 --> 14:01.400]  can be made safer and I say yes it does because a lot of these vaccines are intentionally
[14:01.400 --> 14:09.240]  putting live viruses in there for other purposes to cause sterilization and other types of
[14:09.240 --> 14:14.480]  medical problems, so that's my little dissent, so okay, Randy, Eddie, what do you all think
[14:14.480 --> 14:15.480]  about this?
[14:15.480 --> 14:23.200]  They left the door open, if you can come in and show that there was an inherent danger
[14:23.200 --> 14:28.920]  that could have been lessened by the manufacturer and the manufacturer did not, they left the
[14:28.920 --> 14:31.160]  door open that you can get a shot at it.
[14:31.160 --> 14:35.760]  No, they didn't leave the door open, that's the point of this case, they did not leave
[14:35.760 --> 14:42.320]  the door open to give any shots at the manufacturers at all, they're saying that the Supreme Court
[14:42.320 --> 14:50.400]  has ruled that vaccines are an unavoidably unsafe product and that there is no way that
[14:50.400 --> 14:57.560]  the vaccine manufacturers can even come up with a design that could be any safer, therefore
[14:57.560 --> 14:58.560]  they are exempt.
[14:58.560 --> 15:05.240]  Okay, well they still, okay, so they're holding them exempt from suit, even if they knowingly
[15:05.240 --> 15:11.000]  put poison that has nothing to do with the vaccine in it for some other purpose.
[15:11.000 --> 15:16.960]  They didn't say that, now if you could show, this had to do with the diphtheria vaccine.
[15:16.960 --> 15:21.840]  Okay, well that was my point, that they kind of left the door open, saying if they made
[15:21.840 --> 15:27.520]  it according to its purpose, then it was as safe as it could be made.
[15:27.520 --> 15:33.280]  And if you can prove that there's other things going on, then you, yeah, then the door would
[15:33.280 --> 15:35.640]  be left open in those types of situations.
[15:35.640 --> 15:41.760]  So giving your kids vaccinations is sort of like giving them guns to play with and telling
[15:41.760 --> 15:43.120]  them to be careful.
[15:43.120 --> 15:47.560]  Yeah, well the bottom line is just don't do it.
[15:47.560 --> 15:52.560]  Just don't do it because this woman, she's an adult now, I mean this has been going on
[15:52.560 --> 15:57.320]  for years and years and years, I mean it doesn't matter.
[15:57.320 --> 16:03.840]  I mean what if you win a billion dollars, okay, she suffered brain injury, lifelong
[16:03.840 --> 16:10.400]  seizures, she's permanently debilitated, her life is ruined, her life has been ruined since
[16:10.400 --> 16:13.680]  she was a child because of these vaccines.
[16:13.680 --> 16:19.560]  So how much money is it worth to take that kind of a risk?
[16:19.560 --> 16:25.160]  It's like Randy, like the Russian roulette example that you play, that you give.
[16:25.160 --> 16:27.040]  Who wants to play Russian roulette?
[16:27.040 --> 16:30.960]  You know, I was Googling, or not Googling, but X-clicking Russian roulette to try to
[16:30.960 --> 16:35.160]  see what the deal is and it's a game of chance where people make bets.
[16:35.160 --> 16:42.520]  How much money is it worth to lose your life, or to lose the life of your child to become
[16:42.520 --> 16:45.160]  permanently debilitated over these vaccines?
[16:45.160 --> 16:46.800]  Just don't do it.
[16:46.800 --> 16:52.400]  Yeah, using these vaccines is like playing Russian roulette with a 45 automatic though.
[16:52.400 --> 16:53.400]  Yeah, exactly.
[16:53.400 --> 17:00.840]  All right, we'll be right back folks.
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[19:00.320 --> 19:14.080]  All right, folks, I'm going to rant about this vaccine issue a little bit more.
[19:14.080 --> 19:22.200]  This court case has some very severe implications for a lot of people.
[19:22.200 --> 19:31.640]  This brings up the issue of possibly CPS getting involved to go after parents that consent
[19:31.640 --> 19:34.760]  to giving their children vaccines.
[19:34.760 --> 19:39.760]  This puts parents in a situation where they potentially could be charged with attempted
[19:39.760 --> 19:45.360]  murder for consenting to give their children vaccines.
[19:45.360 --> 19:51.360]  Folks out there, you better think twice before you allow your children to get vaccines.
[19:51.360 --> 20:01.120]  I'll say something else about especially the flu vaccines, absolutely pointless, useless,
[20:01.120 --> 20:03.760]  and dangerous as all get out.
[20:03.760 --> 20:07.840]  You're basically holding a gun to your head if you ever take a flu vaccine.
[20:07.840 --> 20:16.520]  And official medical studies have been released showing that flu vaccines only work less than
[20:16.520 --> 20:23.280]  1% of the time, less than 1%.
[20:23.280 --> 20:26.520]  So you're going to hold a gun to your head, you're going to play Russian roulette and pull
[20:26.520 --> 20:32.880]  the trigger for a 1% chance that you might be immunized against the flu?
[20:32.880 --> 20:36.320]  You've got to be kidding me.
[20:36.320 --> 20:49.120]  So in the past, there may have been vaccines may have been more safe in the 30s, 40s, 50s.
[20:49.120 --> 20:56.640]  But nowadays, sorry folks, you've got the formaldehyde, you've got the mercury, you've
[20:56.640 --> 21:03.400]  got live viruses, and Randy, to answer your question about some of these live viruses
[21:03.400 --> 21:06.200]  that are going in there.
[21:06.200 --> 21:12.280]  One would have to show the intent and regarding these viruses, these vaccines that have gone
[21:12.280 --> 21:16.680]  out in these third world countries for the purpose of intentional sterilization, definitely
[21:16.680 --> 21:17.920]  that would show intent.
[21:17.920 --> 21:25.400]  However, there's been cases in the US of vaccines where there are live viruses of other unrelated
[21:25.400 --> 21:30.120]  viruses that have nothing to do with the virus that you're allegedly being vaccinated against.
[21:30.120 --> 21:36.320]  The vaccine makers are saying, well, that's just unavoidable because of the tissue samples
[21:36.320 --> 21:40.240]  that we had to use in order to create the vaccine.
[21:40.240 --> 21:43.240]  I mean, folks, I don't even want to get into it on the air because it's so disgusting and
[21:43.240 --> 21:45.640]  people have probably just finished their dinner.
[21:45.640 --> 21:49.720]  You don't even want to know what they do to create these vaccines.
[21:49.720 --> 21:51.920]  You don't even want to know, all right?
[21:51.920 --> 21:54.240]  Just read the insert to see what the dangers are.
[21:54.240 --> 21:58.760]  But believe me, make sure that you're on an empty stomach before you do any research to
[21:58.760 --> 22:05.080]  find out just exactly what tissue they use from what sources to make these vaccines.
[22:05.080 --> 22:10.880]  And the vaccine companies are saying that, well, these live viruses of these other types
[22:10.880 --> 22:16.320]  of viruses, there's nothing we can do to filter them out because of the way that we have to
[22:16.320 --> 22:17.320]  make them.
[22:17.320 --> 22:21.760]  And I think that that's why the Supreme Court is saying that the manufacturers are quite
[22:21.760 --> 22:27.440]  incapable of making these any safer for their intended use.
[22:27.440 --> 22:29.520]  The bottom line is don't do it.
[22:29.520 --> 22:36.640]  The Supreme Court ruling could have implications where parents could even be brought up on
[22:36.640 --> 22:43.320]  criminal charges for attempted murder for consenting to having their children vaccinated.
[22:43.320 --> 22:49.800]  That's how far reaching this case could go.
[22:49.800 --> 22:50.800]  Comments, guys?
[22:50.800 --> 22:53.800]  Well, I'm not getting any vaccinations.
[22:53.800 --> 23:00.200]  But on the other side, we don't have the pandemics we once had.
[23:00.200 --> 23:07.360]  And I suspect that at the time, the vaccines were far more dangerous than they are now.
[23:07.360 --> 23:10.400]  Well, and I wanted to make a comment about that.
[23:10.400 --> 23:16.360]  Well, actually, I think probably the vaccines now are more dangerous than they were then.
[23:16.360 --> 23:23.720]  But I wanted to comment on that concerning the polio vaccination here in the US.
[23:23.720 --> 23:29.040]  You know, we get lied to constantly regarding these statistics in the mainstream media.
[23:29.040 --> 23:31.560]  And we don't have the kind of pandemics we used to have.
[23:31.560 --> 23:33.440]  Vaccines obviously work, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[23:33.440 --> 23:39.760]  Actually, if you look into the history of polio and the pandemics and the vaccines when
[23:39.760 --> 23:48.760]  it came in, the statistics of polio actually were on a steep decline.
[23:48.760 --> 23:54.760]  Polio was actually already becoming almost extinct before the polio vaccination came
[23:54.760 --> 23:56.200]  into existence.
[23:56.200 --> 24:01.880]  And then after they started vaccinating people for polio, then the instance of polio started
[24:01.880 --> 24:06.560]  to go up again because people were getting polio from the vaccine.
[24:06.560 --> 24:14.280]  So I wouldn't trust, you know, just this general kind of idea that, well, vaccines work because
[24:14.280 --> 24:18.640]  we don't have these kinds of, you know, outbreaks and pandemics like we used to.
[24:18.640 --> 24:24.440]  I think that the reason that people are healthier now and not dying from measles as much as
[24:24.440 --> 24:29.160]  they used to and all these kinds of things is just because the level, the general level
[24:29.160 --> 24:34.240]  of health care is much greater than it was back in the day.
[24:34.240 --> 24:37.120]  I think that that's probably a more reasonable excuse.
[24:37.120 --> 24:38.120]  But yeah.
[24:38.120 --> 24:43.080]  As is the ability of society to better dispose of the waste that it used to have to deal
[24:43.080 --> 24:44.560]  with in those days as well.
[24:44.560 --> 24:45.560]  Right.
[24:45.560 --> 24:46.560]  Exactly.
[24:46.560 --> 24:48.520]  I mean, like I said, all you have to do is look at the history of the polio vaccine and
[24:48.520 --> 24:56.200]  you will see that polio was already almost beat just because of the rise in the level
[24:56.200 --> 24:59.480]  of health care technology at that time.
[24:59.480 --> 25:04.240]  And then they introduced the polio vaccine and then polio came back like gangbusters.
[25:04.240 --> 25:05.240]  All right.
[25:05.240 --> 25:06.240]  So I'm sorry.
[25:06.240 --> 25:08.440]  I can't buy into the vaccines at all.
[25:08.440 --> 25:09.440]  Just not at all.
[25:09.440 --> 25:20.000]  It's inappropriate to use a single issue and extrapolate that issue over the entire industry.
[25:20.000 --> 25:28.840]  We had a great number of pandemic problems and normal contagious diseases that we pretty
[25:28.840 --> 25:34.160]  well eradicated and they didn't eradicate themselves.
[25:34.160 --> 25:43.080]  There was a time when these vaccines, although they were dangerous, they were less dangerous
[25:43.080 --> 25:48.000]  than what we were dealing with, but that time's passed.
[25:48.000 --> 25:52.640]  We pretty well got them under control and the argument they're making is if we don't
[25:52.640 --> 25:55.440]  keep vaccinating, they'll come back.
[25:55.440 --> 25:56.440]  I don't believe that's correct.
[25:56.440 --> 25:58.020]  That is total nonsense.
[25:58.020 --> 26:03.080]  That is absolute nonsense that if we don't keep vaccinating, they'll come back.
[26:03.080 --> 26:10.880]  That is total nonsense and like I said, I think a lot of the decline in the pandemics
[26:10.880 --> 26:16.480]  and people dying from these kinds of diseases is to be attributed to just a general rise
[26:16.480 --> 26:22.800]  in the level of health care and like Eddie says, more proper disposal of waste products
[26:22.800 --> 26:24.000]  and such.
[26:24.000 --> 26:29.200]  But Bill Gates has made a statement that you're murdering your child if you don't give them
[26:29.200 --> 26:30.200]  a vaccine.
[26:30.200 --> 26:35.640]  I disagree, according to the Supreme Court ruling, you actually could be accused of attempted
[26:35.640 --> 26:38.440]  murder if you do give your child a vaccine.
[26:38.440 --> 26:42.120]  I mean it's just, you just don't go there.
[26:42.120 --> 26:43.120]  You just don't go there.
[26:43.120 --> 26:46.540]  At any rate, I wanted to, unless you don't have any more comments, I want to move on
[26:46.540 --> 26:54.680]  to another article concerning someone being indicted for jury nullification for handing
[26:54.680 --> 26:58.360]  out pamphlets to educate the general public.
[26:58.360 --> 27:00.800]  Do you have any more comments about the vaccines?
[27:00.800 --> 27:01.800]  No.
[27:01.800 --> 27:02.800]  Okay.
[27:02.800 --> 27:03.800]  There's time.
[27:03.800 --> 27:04.800]  Okay.
[27:04.800 --> 27:05.800]  All right.
[27:05.800 --> 27:06.800]  I'm going to go over this article here.
[27:06.800 --> 27:12.600]  This is, this is really something and Eddie, you've got some, you've got some comments
[27:12.600 --> 27:14.600]  on this too.
[27:14.600 --> 27:18.040]  This is regarding Julian P. Heichlin.
[27:18.040 --> 27:26.400]  He's a chemistry professor at the University of Pennsylvania and he was passing out pamphlets
[27:26.400 --> 27:33.040]  on the street in front of, I believe it was the state courthouse, 500 Pearl Street.
[27:33.040 --> 27:39.520]  He's been doing this since 2009 at courthouse entrances and elsewhere handing out pamphlets
[27:39.520 --> 27:44.520]  encouraging jurors to ignore the law if they disagree with it and to render verdicts based
[27:44.520 --> 27:45.520]  on conscience.
[27:45.520 --> 27:48.520]  In other words, jury nullification.
[27:48.520 --> 27:52.080]  Juries can nullify law.
[27:52.080 --> 27:58.120]  They can exonerate defendants just because they think the law is unconstitutional or
[27:58.120 --> 28:01.920]  that it's a frivolous law or whatever.
[28:01.920 --> 28:04.680]  It's concept of jury nullification.
[28:04.680 --> 28:09.880]  It's been in existence since way back, way back in England.
[28:09.880 --> 28:10.880]  This is jurisprudence.
[28:10.880 --> 28:13.880]  Yeah, since Granny's third or fourth birthday.
[28:13.880 --> 28:14.880]  This is jurisprudence.
[28:14.880 --> 28:15.880]  Sorry, not jurisprudence.
[28:15.880 --> 28:24.480]  At any rate, they've arrested this guy and they've managed to get a grand jury to indict
[28:24.480 --> 28:32.760]  him for jury tampering because he's been passing out pamphlets in front of the courthouse,
[28:32.760 --> 28:42.000]  outside the federal courthouse to educate people of their rights.
[28:42.000 --> 28:48.800]  Morgan says that the indictment is a tissue of lies and he says that he never tried to
[28:48.800 --> 28:56.400]  influence any specific jurors or any cases and he just gives his brochures to general
[28:56.400 --> 29:02.560]  passersby of the general public hoping that some jurors or potential jurors would be among
[29:02.560 --> 29:03.560]  them.
[29:03.560 --> 29:09.840]  He feels his message must get out and here's a quote, if I weren't having any effect, why
[29:09.840 --> 29:17.200]  would they do this and his former colleagues recall him as a talented and unconventional
[29:17.200 --> 29:18.200]  educator.
[29:18.200 --> 29:24.000]  He says, Heichlin says, you don't have to be a genius to figure this thing out.
[29:24.000 --> 29:34.480]  So boy, that's some bad news for pulling a Wendy as we say, passing out the criminal
[29:34.480 --> 29:43.840]  complaints to passersby coming in to the courthouse as they're seating a jury pool.
[29:43.840 --> 29:47.640]  So at any rate, Eddie has some comments on this and some more information on this case
[29:47.640 --> 29:48.640]  when we get back.
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[32:00.160 --> 32:21.000]  Okay, folks, we are back.
[32:21.000 --> 32:29.840]  All right, we're talking about this poor chemistry professor that got indicted for jury tampering
[32:29.840 --> 32:35.480]  for passing out pamphlets in front of the federal courthouse up in Pennsylvania, educating
[32:35.480 --> 32:41.320]  jurors of their rights, especially regarding jury nullification, and Eddie, you've read
[32:41.320 --> 32:42.320]  the indictment.
[32:42.320 --> 32:44.520]  You've got even more information on this case.
[32:44.520 --> 32:50.480]  Yeah, in actuality, the indictment is bad upon its face because it's specifically accusing
[32:50.480 --> 32:56.960]  him of tampering with a jury upon of which he was a member, and he was not serving on
[32:56.960 --> 32:57.960]  any jury.
[32:57.960 --> 33:04.200]  He was out front just as a regular individual standing out there passing out pamphlets.
[33:04.200 --> 33:10.440]  He wasn't serving on any jury anywhere at all, at any time, and yet the indictment and
[33:10.440 --> 33:16.440]  the criminal complaint against him both state that he did so as a member of a jury on which
[33:16.440 --> 33:17.920]  he sat.
[33:17.920 --> 33:25.680]  Whoever secured this indictment, they should have criminal charges filed against them.
[33:25.680 --> 33:26.680]  That's outrageous.
[33:26.680 --> 33:31.440]  What this is, is you may beat the time, but you won't beat the ride.
[33:31.440 --> 33:37.440]  They'll do everything they can to bankrupt him, and even if he wins, he loses.
[33:37.440 --> 33:42.320]  My question here would be is why any Sam Hill has his lawyer not made mention of that to
[33:42.320 --> 33:43.320]  the court?
[33:43.320 --> 33:47.400]  His lawyer doesn't want to be next.
[33:47.400 --> 33:48.560]  He may not have a lawyer.
[33:48.560 --> 33:50.920]  I'm still trying to make that determination.
[33:50.920 --> 33:53.880]  He's 78 years old.
[33:53.880 --> 33:57.400]  I mean, they're trying to railroad an old man that is just standing up for his rights
[33:57.400 --> 33:59.280]  and trying to educate the public about their rights.
[33:59.280 --> 34:01.320]  I mean, this is ridiculous.
[34:01.320 --> 34:06.760]  It says here a not guilty plea was entered on Mr. Heichlin's behalf when he refused to
[34:06.760 --> 34:08.760]  say how he would plead.
[34:08.760 --> 34:13.360]  Well, then that would indicate he does not have counsel.
[34:13.360 --> 34:15.920]  He's got a court appointed assistance of counsel.
[34:15.920 --> 34:16.920]  That's what it says.
[34:16.920 --> 34:20.920]  Again, he doesn't have assistance of counsel.
[34:20.920 --> 34:21.920]  Right.
[34:21.920 --> 34:26.600]  A court appointed, he doesn't have it.
[34:26.600 --> 34:27.600]  Exactly.
[34:27.600 --> 34:28.600]  Exactly.
[34:28.600 --> 34:35.720]  So, that's what's going on with Mr. Heichlin, so hopefully he'll be able to get out of this.
[34:35.720 --> 34:36.960]  I mean, that's a good point.
[34:36.960 --> 34:41.520]  He was not even sitting... He was not even a seated juror, and they're accusing him of
[34:41.520 --> 34:43.880]  tampering with a jury that he was a member of?
[34:43.880 --> 34:44.880]  Exactly.
[34:44.880 --> 34:47.200]  I mean, he wasn't even tampering with any jury at all.
[34:47.200 --> 34:49.600]  He was passing out pamphlets on the street.
[34:49.600 --> 34:53.480]  I mean, that's a First Amendment issue.
[34:53.480 --> 34:58.200]  He was just passing them out to the general public, whoever would happen to take them.
[34:58.200 --> 34:59.200]  This is Pennsylvania?
[34:59.200 --> 35:00.200]  Yes.
[35:00.200 --> 35:01.200]  Okay.
[35:01.200 --> 35:05.960]  I've been to Pennsylvania, and I've been through their code.
[35:05.960 --> 35:10.920]  In Pennsylvania, you cannot go to the grand jury.
[35:10.920 --> 35:17.160]  Only the district judge or the prosecuting attorney can go to the grand jury.
[35:17.160 --> 35:23.120]  However, and there's other ways to skin that... I'm not going to say can't.
[35:23.120 --> 35:24.120]  Okay.
[35:24.120 --> 35:26.720]  There's another way to get at this.
[35:26.720 --> 35:36.080]  The district attorney is given a judicial discretion in that he's given first blush
[35:36.080 --> 35:40.960]  opportunity to make a determination of probable cause.
[35:40.960 --> 35:46.840]  He can determine whether or not there's sufficient evidence to warrant a prosecution.
[35:46.840 --> 35:53.120]  If you disagree with the decision of the district attorney, you can appeal to the court of common
[35:53.120 --> 35:55.640]  pleas.
[35:55.640 --> 36:02.600]  If the court of common pleas refuses to prosecute, you can appeal all the way up to the Supreme
[36:02.600 --> 36:05.600]  Court.
[36:05.600 --> 36:10.120]  In Pennsylvania, they don't have the grand jury directly accessible the way they do in
[36:10.120 --> 36:15.120]  most states, but this is just about as good.
[36:15.120 --> 36:22.200]  The way I suggested people do it is you present your complaint to the prosecuting attorney
[36:22.200 --> 36:27.840]  who will obviously refuse to act, and then you accuse the prosecuting attorney not of
[36:27.840 --> 36:33.240]  exercising the prosecutorial discretion, but of exercising caprice for the purpose of obstructing
[36:33.240 --> 36:35.640]  justice.
[36:35.640 --> 36:42.760]  If you file a complaint against the district attorney, that's to be filed with the attorney
[36:42.760 --> 36:49.680]  general, who unlike the Texas attorney general who has no prosecutorial powers, the attorney
[36:49.680 --> 36:57.520]  general in Pennsylvania does, so you file a criminal complaint against the district attorney
[36:57.520 --> 37:03.920]  with the attorney general accusing the district attorney of obstruction of justice, and the
[37:03.920 --> 37:09.280]  attorney general is going to refuse to act on your complaint, and then you come back
[37:09.280 --> 37:11.680]  to the court of common pleas.
[37:11.680 --> 37:18.480]  You appeal the district attorney's decision to the court of common pleas, and you file
[37:18.480 --> 37:28.400]  with the court of common pleas criminal complaints against the U.S. attorney, and of course the
[37:28.400 --> 37:32.920]  judge of the court of common pleas, which in Pennsylvania is one of the lower courts,
[37:32.920 --> 37:39.440]  he's going to refuse to act on it, and then you take criminal complaints against the judge
[37:39.440 --> 37:46.760]  of the court of common pleas, accuse him of exercising caprice, and file it with the attorney
[37:46.760 --> 37:47.760]  general.
[37:47.760 --> 37:53.320]  And if the attorney general refuses to appoint an attorney pro tem, you file for that, and
[37:53.320 --> 37:57.720]  you appeal this all the way up to the grand jury and just, I mean to the Supreme Court,
[37:57.720 --> 38:03.440]  and just make a really big stink.
[38:03.440 --> 38:07.400]  So even though we don't have the grand jury directly in Pennsylvania, we do have other
[38:07.400 --> 38:09.640]  ways of going after them.
[38:09.640 --> 38:15.960]  Well, if I'm not mistaken in this case, Randy, it was the prosecuting attorney that filed
[38:15.960 --> 38:17.440]  against him to begin with.
[38:17.440 --> 38:21.120]  Okay, now I'm getting more information.
[38:21.120 --> 38:29.600]  Just, this article is very confusing, but it's looking to me like actually this is a
[38:29.600 --> 38:33.400]  New York case.
[38:33.400 --> 38:35.400]  He's a retired Pennsylvania professor.
[38:35.400 --> 38:42.360]  I mean, they keep saying Pennsylvania this, Pennsylvania that, but now it's looking like
[38:42.360 --> 38:44.360]  this is actually a New York case.
[38:44.360 --> 38:47.000]  They're talking about 500 Pearl Street in New York.
[38:47.000 --> 38:51.280]  And in that case, they got a pretty good grand jury system in New York.
[38:51.280 --> 38:54.760]  They're just not, I mean, this is a New York Times article, and they're just not being
[38:54.760 --> 38:59.800]  very clear about what's going on, which is to be expected from the dinosaur media.
[38:59.800 --> 39:00.800]  Yeah, okay.
[39:00.800 --> 39:07.760]  And as to the prosecuting attorney coming after them, in New York, as in Texas, the
[39:07.760 --> 39:10.960]  prosecuting attorney cannot be the accuser.
[39:10.960 --> 39:15.800]  Someone else brought the prosecutor a complaint, and the prosecutor decided that they would
[39:15.800 --> 39:23.440]  act on it because the prosecutor probably got him to do it.
[39:23.440 --> 39:24.440]  That's the story.
[39:24.440 --> 39:27.920]  I'm sticking to it.
[39:27.920 --> 39:29.920]  That's all the rhyming I'm going to do today.
[39:29.920 --> 39:30.920]  All right.
[39:30.920 --> 39:35.200]  It looks like this is, they don't care if he wins or loses.
[39:35.200 --> 39:38.480]  They're going to run him through the ringer, and they're going to do everything they can
[39:38.480 --> 39:45.360]  to bankrupt him as an example to anybody else who would try to protect their rights.
[39:45.360 --> 39:46.360]  So we need-
[39:46.360 --> 39:47.960]  Yeah, actually get the jury system back.
[39:47.960 --> 39:48.960]  Right.
[39:48.960 --> 39:54.960]  So we need people to go after the ones who are going after him.
[39:54.960 --> 39:58.480]  Use the law the same way they're using it.
[39:58.480 --> 40:00.120]  Incorrectly.
[40:00.120 --> 40:01.600]  Maliciously.
[40:01.600 --> 40:11.040]  Use it to force them to answer these accusations against them.
[40:11.040 --> 40:14.920]  And don't be concerned or whether or not you can actually get a prosecution in a corrupt
[40:14.920 --> 40:15.920]  system.
[40:15.920 --> 40:20.760]  You're not going to, but you can use the law to do them the same kind of harm they're using
[40:20.760 --> 40:23.560]  the law to do this guy.
[40:23.560 --> 40:31.960]  Yeah, he's been a long time outside the boxer, and not like a boxer like a boxing ring, but
[40:31.960 --> 40:34.920]  thinking outside the box is what I mean.
[40:34.920 --> 40:38.160]  He's a Cornell graduate.
[40:38.160 --> 40:40.160]  He taught for more than 20 years at Penn State.
[40:40.160 --> 40:46.160]  He was a faculty member known for his innovative methods, a former colleague said.
[40:46.160 --> 40:50.920]  He said, Mr. Heichlin would bring in Penn State dancers, actors, and cheerleaders into
[40:50.920 --> 40:57.520]  one class to illustrate molecular vibration and celebrate scientific discovery.
[40:57.520 --> 40:59.360]  People talked about his class.
[40:59.360 --> 41:05.160]  People talked about this course for years, Robert Bernheim, a retired professor, recalls.
[41:05.160 --> 41:10.360]  Barbara J. Garrison, who heads the Penn State chemistry department, called Mr. Heichlin
[41:10.360 --> 41:17.000]  an enormously creative scientist who really liked to think outside the box, and sometimes
[41:17.000 --> 41:21.160]  that meant he ran counter to the establishment.
[41:21.160 --> 41:24.640]  Here you go, figure.
[41:24.640 --> 41:26.120]  He's one of us.
[41:26.120 --> 41:32.920]  And he would go and he would smoke marijuana in different places for the purpose of getting
[41:32.920 --> 41:37.420]  arrested to challenge the marijuana laws, and he says that those were the only times
[41:37.420 --> 41:38.420]  that he ever smoked.
[41:38.420 --> 41:41.800]  That's the only reason he did it.
[41:41.800 --> 41:43.800]  I could like this guy.
[41:43.800 --> 41:48.560]  And he's 78 years old, and they're trying to railroad him because he's educating the
[41:48.560 --> 41:51.040]  public about jury nullification, outrageous.
[41:51.040 --> 41:53.820]  See, we could do the same thing.
[41:53.820 --> 41:58.440]  We could get our hands on one of the five different strains of the cannabis, and only
[41:58.440 --> 41:59.720]  one of which is illegal.
[41:59.720 --> 42:00.720]  Right, there you go.
[42:00.720 --> 42:03.320]  And then walk up to a cop and say, look what I got.
[42:03.320 --> 42:06.560]  And then when he arrests you, sue his butt.
[42:06.560 --> 42:07.560]  There you go.
[42:07.560 --> 42:08.560]  There you go.
[42:08.560 --> 42:09.560]  All right.
[42:09.560 --> 42:14.240]  So at any rate, they're trying to make an example out of this guy for teaching the people
[42:14.240 --> 42:17.760]  about jury nullification, and we're going to start taking your calls now.
[42:17.760 --> 42:23.160]  I just wanted to go back just for a moment to this vaccine rant, and I just wanted to
[42:23.160 --> 42:30.040]  kind of debunk this concept, or at least attempt to debunk the concept again about how, well,
[42:30.040 --> 42:35.880]  look, people used to be dying of these measles, pandemics, and all this kind of stuff, and
[42:35.880 --> 42:38.440]  now we don't have that anymore, and now we don't have polio anymore.
[42:38.440 --> 42:43.120]  And as I've already said, polio was already almost extinct just because of the general
[42:43.120 --> 42:48.280]  rise of the general level of healthcare and nutritional awareness and proper disposal
[42:48.280 --> 42:53.840]  of waste, and it was already pretty much gone, and then it made a resurgence and came back
[42:53.840 --> 42:58.680]  like gangbusters after they introduced the polio vaccine, because people were getting
[42:58.680 --> 43:01.120]  polio from the vaccine.
[43:01.120 --> 43:06.000]  And just concerning just the general level of health, I want to make a comment about
[43:06.000 --> 43:12.120]  viruses and different types of vitamins, and vitamin D especially.
[43:12.120 --> 43:16.640]  Vitamin D is what really keeps your immune system strong, and, you know, people didn't
[43:16.640 --> 43:21.040]  have vitamin D supplements back then, and people didn't have the research back in those
[43:21.040 --> 43:28.400]  days concerning mega doses of vitamin C. It has been proven scientifically that mega doses
[43:28.400 --> 43:32.840]  of vitamin C will cure and destroy almost any virus.
[43:32.840 --> 43:37.840]  There was a gentleman in Australia who was dying of the swine flu.
[43:37.840 --> 43:46.880]  He was already declared terminal by the hospital, and the family sued to have him be put on
[43:46.880 --> 43:52.480]  50 grams of vitamin C a day, that's like 100 pills, intravenously, and he made a miraculous
[43:52.480 --> 43:53.480]  comeback.
[43:53.480 --> 43:56.400]  So all these kids that died of measles back in the day, if they had had mega doses of
[43:56.400 --> 43:58.400]  vitamin C, they may have done the trick.
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[45:59.960 --> 46:05.440]  Okay, I'm back.
[46:05.440 --> 46:18.440]  All right, I'm almost done with my vaccine rant, but I really do feel I have to debunk
[46:18.440 --> 46:23.800]  this concept that, well, look, vaccines are actually good because we don't have these
[46:23.800 --> 46:26.240]  kinds of pandemics that we used to have.
[46:26.240 --> 46:31.840]  And I strongly hold to the position that that really mainly has to do with the fact that
[46:31.840 --> 46:37.120]  people didn't know about the nutritional value of certain types of vitamins back in those
[46:37.120 --> 46:43.960]  days and colloidal silver and just what vitamin C will do and just what vitamin D will do
[46:43.960 --> 46:50.920]  and, you know, poor nutrition, poor disposal of human waste and other types of animal waste
[46:50.920 --> 46:52.760]  and waste products.
[46:52.760 --> 47:00.120]  And yeah, maybe some of the vaccines back in those days, you know, in the mid-20th century
[47:00.120 --> 47:06.040]  could have helped to bring down the instances of death due to certain types of viruses like
[47:06.040 --> 47:07.040]  measles.
[47:07.040 --> 47:09.320]  I know for sure polio is not one of them.
[47:09.320 --> 47:14.240]  That actually increased the instances of polio.
[47:14.240 --> 47:19.960]  But the point that I'm trying to make is it may, some of those vaccines may have helped
[47:19.960 --> 47:29.760]  at the time, but I think that that is an outdated, obsolete technology that we do not need anymore
[47:29.760 --> 47:34.440]  at all because colloidal silver is the best antibiotic.
[47:34.440 --> 47:36.080]  It will destroy any bacteria.
[47:36.080 --> 47:38.560]  I mean, it will get rid of it.
[47:38.560 --> 47:42.200]  Now, you can't take too much colloidal silver, especially not all the time, or it will turn
[47:42.200 --> 47:43.200]  blue.
[47:43.200 --> 47:44.200]  All right?
[47:44.200 --> 47:45.200]  So you don't want to do that.
[47:45.200 --> 47:47.360]  But colloidal silver is the best.
[47:47.360 --> 47:55.440]  And regarding viruses, vitamin C. There have been many cases of patients that were dying
[47:55.440 --> 48:00.920]  from swine flu and other types of very serious viruses.
[48:00.920 --> 48:08.320]  And the hospitals gave these people intravenous mega, mega doses of vitamin C and it saved
[48:08.320 --> 48:09.400]  their lives.
[48:09.400 --> 48:13.960]  One case in point was an Australian man, and I don't have the, you know, I've got a few
[48:13.960 --> 48:20.480]  articles pulled up about it, but just, it's quick, Australia man vitamin C swine flu saved
[48:20.480 --> 48:24.400]  life or something like that, and you'll find the articles.
[48:24.400 --> 48:28.400]  This guy, the doctors had done everything they could.
[48:28.400 --> 48:32.160]  He did get the swine flu, and he was somewhat elderly gentleman.
[48:32.160 --> 48:35.920]  And they did everything they could, pumped him up full of antibiotics, everything they
[48:35.920 --> 48:36.920]  could.
[48:36.920 --> 48:41.600]  His lungs were both filled with fluid, and they basically said, he's dead, okay?
[48:41.600 --> 48:44.680]  Say your prayers, say your goodbyes to the family.
[48:44.680 --> 48:49.480]  And the family had been doing all this research on mega doses of intravenous vitamin C. Like
[48:49.480 --> 48:51.640]  we're talking like 50 grams a day.
[48:51.640 --> 48:53.960]  Now keep in mind one pill is like half a gram.
[48:53.960 --> 48:54.960]  All right?
[48:54.960 --> 48:57.520]  So we're talking like 100 pills a day, like a whole bottle.
[48:57.520 --> 48:58.880]  All right?
[48:58.880 --> 49:02.760]  You can't OOD on vitamin C. All right?
[49:02.760 --> 49:05.840]  There was also another case in New Zealand where this happened.
[49:05.840 --> 49:08.280]  So there was a case in Australia and New Zealand.
[49:08.280 --> 49:09.280]  Okay?
[49:09.280 --> 49:11.360]  This has been happening all over the world.
[49:11.360 --> 49:12.480]  All right?
[49:12.480 --> 49:18.880]  So at any rate, what ended up happening was the family had done this research, and they
[49:18.880 --> 49:23.320]  told the doctors, put him on some intravenous vitamin C. And they're like, ah, it's not
[49:23.320 --> 49:24.320]  going to do any good.
[49:24.320 --> 49:25.800]  It's not going to do any good.
[49:25.800 --> 49:28.260]  And the family said, why don't you just try it?
[49:28.260 --> 49:29.760]  You already told us he's dead.
[49:29.760 --> 49:32.020]  You already told us he's going to die.
[49:32.020 --> 49:33.020]  What harm can it do?
[49:33.020 --> 49:34.880]  You can't OOD from vitamin C.
[49:34.880 --> 49:39.720]  What will happen is that when your body gets enough vitamin C that it can absorb, it will
[49:39.720 --> 49:42.520]  discharge the rest, and your stools will start getting soft.
[49:42.520 --> 49:46.160]  That's when you know you've had enough vitamin C. You cannot get toxic levels of vitamin
[49:46.160 --> 49:49.920]  C. So at any rate, they did it.
[49:49.920 --> 49:51.360]  They talked the hospital into it.
[49:51.360 --> 49:53.560]  They put him on 50 grams a day.
[49:53.560 --> 49:57.620]  And he made a, this was the New Zealand man that, like I said, there was two cases.
[49:57.620 --> 49:58.800]  One was in Australia.
[49:58.800 --> 49:59.800]  One was in New Zealand.
[49:59.800 --> 50:04.000]  So the New Zealand man, he made a miraculous recovery in two days.
[50:04.000 --> 50:06.100]  All the fluid from his lungs was gone.
[50:06.100 --> 50:08.400]  And he was sitting up in bed.
[50:08.400 --> 50:12.680]  He was, you know, basically getting ready to go.
[50:12.680 --> 50:17.320]  And then the hospital took him off of the vitamin C. And then they moved him to another
[50:17.320 --> 50:18.680]  hospital.
[50:18.680 --> 50:28.000]  And the family had to sue the hospital to put him back on the vitamin C in order for
[50:28.000 --> 50:29.640]  his life to actually be safe.
[50:29.640 --> 50:34.680]  But the point that I'm trying to make is, back in those days in the mid-20th century,
[50:34.680 --> 50:39.480]  if people had had, you know, the technology and the knowledge available for mega doses
[50:39.480 --> 50:45.180]  of vitamin C and vitamin D, I mean, vitamin D supplements have just started coming into
[50:45.180 --> 50:48.480]  existence that are effective within the last few years.
[50:48.480 --> 50:56.160]  If people had these nutritional options back in those days, then I don't think any of these
[50:56.160 --> 50:59.600]  vaccines would have been necessary or needed at all.
[50:59.600 --> 51:01.120]  And they're certainly not needed today.
[51:01.120 --> 51:02.720]  So just don't go there.
[51:02.720 --> 51:04.080]  The Supreme Court says so.
[51:04.080 --> 51:05.080]  All right.
[51:05.080 --> 51:06.440]  That's all I'm going to say about the vaccines.
[51:06.440 --> 51:08.760]  Let's start taking your calls now.
[51:08.760 --> 51:13.040]  We've got many callers on the board with many different questions.
[51:13.040 --> 51:17.120]  We're going to go to your calls if I can pull up the caller page here.
[51:17.120 --> 51:19.000]  All right.
[51:19.000 --> 51:21.080]  We've got Frank from Texas.
[51:21.080 --> 51:23.760]  All right, Frank, thanks for calling in.
[51:23.760 --> 51:24.760]  What's on your mind tonight?
[51:24.760 --> 51:26.480]  Good evening, how are you all doing?
[51:26.480 --> 51:27.480]  Pretty good.
[51:27.480 --> 51:29.000]  I've got a question.
[51:29.000 --> 51:36.600]  What is the municipality's response time to a motion to dismiss disqualified officials?
[51:36.600 --> 51:41.200]  What do they have to do and what type of timeframe?
[51:41.200 --> 51:44.400]  The municipality has nothing to do with that.
[51:44.400 --> 51:45.400]  Okay.
[51:45.400 --> 51:55.960]  The motion to disqualify in Texas invokes the duty of the court to forward the motion
[51:55.960 --> 51:59.440]  to the head administrative judge of the district.
[51:59.440 --> 52:04.400]  In this case, there used to be a judge in Seguin.
[52:04.400 --> 52:08.520]  Now the head administrative judge is in Williamson County.
[52:08.520 --> 52:14.280]  And the head administrative judge must appoint a judge to hear the motion.
[52:14.280 --> 52:16.200]  This is not an option.
[52:16.200 --> 52:17.200]  This is a requirement.
[52:17.200 --> 52:19.520]  I filed one in Cherokee County.
[52:19.520 --> 52:24.760]  They sent it to the head administrative judge, Judge Olvard in Dallas.
[52:24.760 --> 52:26.600]  But they didn't send my jurat with it.
[52:26.600 --> 52:31.320]  So he dismissed it because it wasn't verified.
[52:31.320 --> 52:38.000]  So now I'll be filing criminal charges against this judge with the grand jury in Dallas because
[52:38.000 --> 52:43.080]  he's the head administrative judge and the only thing he can do is appoint a judge to
[52:43.080 --> 52:44.400]  hear the case.
[52:44.400 --> 52:49.320]  Well, when I called up there 11 days after I filed it, they said that the judge dismissed
[52:49.320 --> 52:54.640]  it, seeming like it never went out of due process, as you just explained.
[52:54.640 --> 52:58.760]  Then file criminal charges against the judge.
[52:58.760 --> 53:03.920]  Class A misdemeanor official, official oppression, 3903 penal code.
[53:03.920 --> 53:04.920]  Right.
[53:04.920 --> 53:09.480]  And, and which I'm going to do, I mean, they, they increase my traffic.
[53:09.480 --> 53:14.760]  This is all over a traffic citation, which is just, this is becoming, I mean, I've seen
[53:14.760 --> 53:19.480]  a total miscarriage of justice and I'm sick of it.
[53:19.480 --> 53:27.200]  I've got, it, they actually put a, that I've absconded from bail or jumped bail and I didn't
[53:27.200 --> 53:28.200]  even post bail.
[53:28.200 --> 53:32.720]  I've appeared in court four times for this ticket and I'm, and I'm sick of it.
[53:32.720 --> 53:38.040]  So with that said, it's, quote, quote that, quote that.
[53:38.040 --> 53:41.520]  It's delayed about a minute.
[53:41.520 --> 53:46.380]  Quote that, cite that penal code again for me.
[53:46.380 --> 53:53.240]  It's, it's, Texas Torch and, what is it?
[53:53.240 --> 53:55.820]  We just talked about it today.
[53:55.820 --> 53:57.660]  Texas Torque Claims Act.
[53:57.660 --> 53:59.160]  Texas Torque Claims Act.
[53:59.160 --> 54:00.160]  18A.
[54:00.160 --> 54:01.160]  18A.
[54:01.160 --> 54:04.160]  I appreciate it, sir.
[54:04.160 --> 54:06.800]  Okie dokie.
[54:06.800 --> 54:07.800]  Okay.
[54:07.800 --> 54:08.800]  All right.
[54:08.800 --> 54:10.800]  We've got more callers on the board.
[54:10.800 --> 54:14.800]  We've got Jill in New York.
[54:14.800 --> 54:16.800]  Jill, thanks for calling in.
[54:16.800 --> 54:17.800]  What's on your mind tonight?
[54:17.800 --> 54:18.800]  That's North Carolina.
[54:18.800 --> 54:20.800]  North Carolina, sorry.
[54:20.800 --> 54:22.800]  Jill.
[54:22.800 --> 54:23.800]  Okay, wait.
[54:23.800 --> 54:24.800]  We see her on the board twice.
[54:24.800 --> 54:26.800]  I don't quite understand what's going on with that.
[54:26.800 --> 54:27.800]  She's got a drop to call.
[54:27.800 --> 54:29.800]  Jill, thanks for calling in.
[54:29.800 --> 54:32.800]  What's on your mind tonight?
[54:32.800 --> 54:33.800]  Okay.
[54:33.800 --> 54:40.800]  We're doing some work, and we actually have a foreclosure going on here in North Carolina.
[54:40.800 --> 54:48.800]  And I was researching a little bit to find out who exactly signed for the substitute trustee.
[54:48.800 --> 55:02.800]  In researching it, I realized that the attorney in fact that signed the document for the substitute trustee is not an admitted North Carolina bar member.
[55:02.800 --> 55:05.800]  That's going to be fun.
[55:05.800 --> 55:16.800]  So I did a little bit more research, and what I can figure is this person is a bar member in South Carolina and Georgia.
[55:16.800 --> 55:25.800]  And so I started looking into the general statutes for who is allowed to practice as an attorney.
[55:25.800 --> 55:35.800]  Now, in this case, if you're out of state, you can practice provided that you are overseen by a North Carolina lawyer
[55:35.800 --> 55:43.800]  and that you have petitioned with the Superior Court that you're going to be working on this case.
[55:43.800 --> 55:50.800]  You've paid the Superior Court a $200 fee and the North Carolina bar a $25 fee.
[55:50.800 --> 55:53.800]  That's pro hoc v.c.
[55:53.800 --> 56:02.800]  That's what it's called when you are sponsored and you come into a foreign jurisdiction and represent someone in the foreign jurisdiction.
[56:02.800 --> 56:12.800]  There is a procedure for that everywhere in the country, but it seems like these guys aren't following it.
[56:12.800 --> 56:15.800]  I wonder if this is a common practice.
[56:15.800 --> 56:27.800]  If you can show that it's a common practice, then this is a case that appears ripe for a qui tam action.
[56:27.800 --> 56:35.800]  For those of you who don't know what qui tam is, is if you have knowledge that someone is misusing government funds
[56:35.800 --> 56:48.800]  or are failing to pay fees that they're required to pay, you can come in as essentially a private attorney general
[56:48.800 --> 56:52.800]  and sue to recover those funds under qui tam.
[56:52.800 --> 56:58.800]  Now, when you follow qui tam action, the government can come in and take over the suit.
[56:58.800 --> 57:04.800]  If they do, whatever the government recovers, you get 10% of it.
[57:04.800 --> 57:12.800]  If the government decides not to come in and take over the case, whatever you recover, you get 25%.
[57:12.800 --> 57:16.800]  It's the whistleblower act.
[57:16.800 --> 57:17.800]  And this sounds perfect.
[57:17.800 --> 57:25.800]  You know, we have a guy in Tennessee who sued every lender who used MERS in Tennessee
[57:25.800 --> 57:31.800]  and named as a co-defendant every county recorder in Tennessee.
[57:31.800 --> 57:41.800]  And he sued these lenders for not paying the filing fees for each sale of the security instrument.
[57:41.800 --> 57:45.800]  And MERS was put in place so they could avoid doing that.
[57:45.800 --> 57:48.800]  MERS just came into court in Massachusetts and said,
[57:48.800 --> 58:01.800]  we have put together this really zip-bang business plan so that these securitized notes could be sold in the secondary market
[58:01.800 --> 58:06.800]  without the sellers having to pay the filing fees.
[58:06.800 --> 58:09.800]  And the courts told them, well, that's a really neat business plan.
[58:09.800 --> 58:13.800]  The problem is it's illegal.
[58:13.800 --> 58:17.800]  And so this guy's, there's several qui tam suits of this nature out there.
[58:17.800 --> 58:20.800]  These guys could become very wealthy.
[58:20.800 --> 58:22.800]  And maybe we have another one.
[58:22.800 --> 58:28.800]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheelball Radio.
[58:28.800 --> 58:29.800]  Jill, hang on.
[58:29.800 --> 58:32.800]  We'll pick this up on the other side.
[58:32.800 --> 58:35.800]  I'd like to hear more about these attorneys.
[58:35.800 --> 58:37.800]  This I find very interesting.
[58:37.800 --> 58:42.800]  It's certainly an area we need to look more closely at.
[58:42.800 --> 58:50.800]  This is a top-of-the-hour break, so we'll have a four-minute break and then we'll be back to talk to Jill in North Carolina.
[58:50.800 --> 58:54.800]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheel of Law Radio.
[58:54.800 --> 58:59.800]  We'll be right back.
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[01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.800]  Like other Arab strongmen, Gaddafi places much of his trust in family members,
[01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.800]  empowering three of his sons with key military roles.
[01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:46.800]  According to WikiLeaks reports, the best trained and equipped unit is the Karmis Brigade,
[01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:51.800]  commanded by the Russian-trained Karmis, the fifth of Gaddafi's seven sons.
[01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:55.800]  The brigade has modern tanks and rocket launchers mounted on the back of trucks,
[01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:58.800]  capable of unleashing a firestorm.
[01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.800]  Its troops, numbering a few thousand, are better paid than others
[01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:06.800]  and have been described as a praetorian guard for the Gaddafi family.
[01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:12.800]  Egyptian activist Amir Abdallah Abiri was sentenced Wednesday to five years in military prison
[01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:18.800]  by Egypt's Supreme Military Court for assaulting a public official and breaking curfew.
[01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.800]  Abiri was arrested Saturday in front of the Council of Ministers' headquarters
[01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:28.800]  at a peaceful demonstration demanding resignation of interim Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik.
[01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:33.800]  Abiri was participating in a sit-in that was violently dispersed by Egyptian armed forces
[01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.800]  and military police using electric batons.
[01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:42.800]  The armed forces later apologized for the violent crackdown and Shafik resigned Thursday.
[01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.800]  But Abiri's conviction has sparked outrage among pro-democracy activists
[01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.800]  who see the harsh sentence as a telltale sign.
[01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.800]  Much remains the same since Hosni Mubarak was overthrown.
[01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:41.800]  Okay, folks, we're back.
[01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:47.800]  We're talking with Jill in North Carolina about some mortgage issues.
[01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:53.800]  There was a question that arose on the break concerning the trustees in situations like this
[01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:56.800]  and does a trustee have to be an attorney?
[01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.800]  And Randy, you were going to address that and then go back to Jill.
[01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:07.800]  I don't remember seeing anything that requires the trustee to be an attorney.
[01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:12.800]  However, I've never come across one who wasn't an attorney.
[01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:17.800]  With that said, in this case, it makes no difference because whoever the person is,
[01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.800]  is claiming to be an attorney.
[01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:22.800]  And that's enough.
[01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:29.800]  Now, as I recall, Jill, there were, that's not the only person who was representing themselves
[01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.800]  as an attorney that's not.
[01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:33.800]  Right, okay.
[01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:39.800]  She was listed as the attorney in fact who was giving, changing out who the original trustee was
[01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.800]  in putting in the bank's appointed trustee.
[01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:48.800]  And in that case, the appointed bank trustees, one was a licensed attorney in North Carolina
[01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.800]  and one was not.
[01:04:51.800 --> 01:05:00.800]  So I went back and I looked at the original document where the bank is giving these attorneys
[01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:10.800]  that are signing as attorney in fact and placing their substitute trustees into these situations
[01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.800]  to start the foreclosure process.
[01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:20.800]  And when it's actually signed by the vice president and he's listing attorneys,
[01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:27.800]  some are North Carolina bar admitted attorneys and others are not.
[01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:42.800]  So we need to see if they have a pro hoc VC filing in North Carolina.
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:43.800]  Okay.
[01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:47.800]  And where would I find the pro hoc VC?
[01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:49.800]  That's a good question.
[01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:50.800]  I know about them.
[01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.800]  I have an attorney or two I can call and find out.
[01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:59.800]  If they, who do they have to pay the fees to?
[01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:00.800]  One of them was the court?
[01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:05.800]  Yes, the superior court and then the bar association.
[01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:09.800]  Probably the bar, I mean the superior court is probably where they'll file that.
[01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.800]  That's a court filing.
[01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:17.800]  But it says for each case though they're supposed to pay the fee.
[01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:23.800]  So wouldn't that make sense that they can't just pay the fee for that original document?
[01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.800]  They need to pay the fee for every one they file after that, right?
[01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:37.800]  Well not individual document, but each case, each individual suit or action they file, absolutely.
[01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:44.800]  So every time they file in a new foreclosure case as a substitute trustee, that's another $225.
[01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:48.800]  For each attorney that's not licensed to do business.
[01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:58.800]  And if they haven't done that, there's probably a rather large fine for them not doing it.
[01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:04.800]  And when you do the Kwaitam action, you don't claim the amount they didn't pay.
[01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:08.800]  You claim the fine that they owe.
[01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:14.800]  The guy in California filed a Kwaitam similar to the one in Tennessee.
[01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:19.800]  But he didn't claim the $25 filing fee or $35 filing fee.
[01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:25.800]  He claimed a $5,000 penalty for not filing it, not paying it.
[01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.800]  This could get really interesting.
[01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:33.800]  You may have found clear title.
[01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:38.800]  I know it doesn't look like clear title yet, but you may have found clear title.
[01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:47.800]  So we've talked about things that we can do to the out-of-state lawyers that hadn't paid the $225 for each one of those cases.
[01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.800]  What about the Vice President?
[01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:55.800]  Well, this goes to Randy's Tar Baby Syndrome.
[01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:59.800]  Whoever touches the Tar Baby sticks to it.
[01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:05.800]  If these attorneys are practicing law in North Carolina without a license,
[01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.800]  they're engaging in the illegal practice of law.
[01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:18.800]  And whoever acts with them is equally culpable.
[01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:25.800]  We charge them all with baritone or illegal practice of law.
[01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:26.800]  That'll be a hoot.
[01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.800]  And then you start hitting the grand jury.
[01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:32.800]  And you can do that in North Carolina.
[01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.800]  I did it when I was in North Carolina.
[01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:39.800]  And it's especially effective because they've never had it done before.
[01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:45.800]  I was in Buncombe County in Asheville and went up while the grand jury was in session
[01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:49.800]  and told the bailiff I wanted to talk to the former grand jury.
[01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:51.800]  And he got all excited and threw me out.
[01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.800]  So I went to his lieutenant and asked his lieutenant to arrest him.
[01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:59.800]  And it got real interesting in the courthouse.
[01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:00.800]  And this was over nothing.
[01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.800]  I didn't even have criminal complaints.
[01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:06.800]  I just wanted to act with the foreman.
[01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:11.800]  So when you start running the routine on them with the grand juries,
[01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:17.800]  good chance the prosecutor's going to tell the slender you need to do something.
[01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.800]  We've also run our standard routine where you start at the bottom
[01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:25.800]  and work your way up to the top, get the highest judge engaged you can,
[01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:29.800]  come back to the grand jury with complaints against the highest judge,
[01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.800]  and create a little politics.
[01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.800]  Are you familiar with that, Jill?
[01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.800]  Yeah, I've heard you talk about it a couple of times.
[01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:41.800]  It's just a little different hearing about it
[01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.800]  and then now getting ready to step into those shoes.
[01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.800]  Yeah, and never go down there.
[01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:51.800]  Never let them see you because you're always a mystery
[01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:55.800]  and have no idea what they're dealing with.
[01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:02.800]  Shoot them the paperwork and they get this paperwork and it starts out no big deal.
[01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:07.800]  They don't pay any attention to it and then every step it gets worse.
[01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:12.800]  And when you start filing criminal charges against the highest judge in the district,
[01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:20.800]  everybody's going to get real excited and make sure you have a recorder on your phone.
[01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:27.800]  The easiest way is I use a Skype phone, relatively inexpensive,
[01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:32.800]  but you can go online and download a program called Callgraph
[01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:36.800]  and Callgraph makes a very nice recording.
[01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.800]  It's a two-track recording.
[01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.800]  They're on one track, you're on the other track.
[01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:44.800]  And it saves it on the Internet.
[01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.800]  It saves it on the Internet or it saves it on your own computer?
[01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.800]  It saves it on the Internet.
[01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:53.800]  Well, I don't know if I like that because I may not want my call recording posted to the Internet.
[01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:59.800]  Well, it's in a password-protected folder,
[01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.800]  and then as soon as you're done you can pull it down.
[01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:08.800]  But for me that's great because I tend not to have conversations that I...
[01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.800]  I assume everything I say has been recorded, always.
[01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.800]  So I'm not concerned about that, but that way I can get at them anywhere I'm at.
[01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.800]  Hopefully that's an option because I've used that Callgraph...
[01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:19.800]  Oh, that is an option.
[01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.800]  Because I've used Callgraph before and it's saved on my computer.
[01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:25.800]  It didn't save anywhere on the Internet.
[01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.800]  Well, it must be an option because mine saves up and then I download them.
[01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:34.800]  But when you download them it takes them off the server and it moves them.
[01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:35.800]  It doesn't just copy.
[01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:38.800]  Now, check the wiretapping laws in your state though, Jill,
[01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:45.800]  because in Texas either any party to a conversation may record the conversation
[01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:47.800]  without informing the other party.
[01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:52.800]  You just can't record a conversation if you're not party to the conversation.
[01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:54.800]  But it's different in different states.
[01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.800]  In Pennsylvania it's a felony to record a conversation
[01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.800]  even if you're party to the conversation
[01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:02.800]  without full consent of all the other parties involved.
[01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:05.800]  So you've got to check the laws in your state before doing that.
[01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.800]  And I've checked the laws in North Carolina and they're the same as Texas.
[01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.800]  Oh, good, good.
[01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:17.800]  In any case, if you do record it I suggest you never use the recording.
[01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:23.800]  And the Callgraph has a service that they'll turn it into a transcript.
[01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:30.800]  Either do it yourself or have them do it and use the transcript.
[01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.800]  I was once in court using a transcript
[01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.800]  and the attorney accused me of having a really great memory.
[01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.800]  Oh, no, I've got a terrible memory.
[01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.800]  And from the corner of my eye I could see the judge cringe
[01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.800]  because he knew exactly what I was doing.
[01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.800]  And the attorney never snapped.
[01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:55.800]  Well, if you have such a poor memory, how do you know exactly what was said?
[01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.800]  Well, I'm reading off the transcript here.
[01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.800]  And the judge, when I said that, he kind of ducked his head in his hand.
[01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.800]  And the attorney said, well, what transcript?
[01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:08.800]  Well, the one I made of the recording, objection.
[01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:16.800]  The judge shook his head, no, counselor, you opened that door like dummy.
[01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:17.800]  Oh, no.
[01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:21.800]  This is what a transcript is really good for.
[01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:26.800]  And you can call it notes you took to refresh your memory.
[01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:31.800]  They just happen to be rather extensive notes.
[01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.800]  But that is immiscible, that you can use.
[01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:39.800]  And they can't raise a recording objection at all.
[01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:44.800]  And when you come back with their exact wording, it's going to be tough on them anyway.
[01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.800]  And if they're dumb enough to ask you how you know that's exactly what was said,
[01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.800]  you can tell them you took it off the recording.
[01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.800]  And that gives foundation for the evidence.
[01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.800]  Ordinarily you can't bring it, but if they ask you a question about it
[01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.800]  and raise a question about this issue, you can address the issue.
[01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.800]  That gives foundation.
[01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:08.800]  Okay.
[01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.800]  Can I ask another question about the substitute trustee?
[01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:12.800]  Absolutely.
[01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:14.800]  Okay.
[01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.800]  How would I find out that whether it needs to be on a lawyer or not?
[01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.800]  That is a good question because that was a question on the break.
[01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.800]  Do they have to be an attorney?
[01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:35.800]  And if they are representing, if they're actually filing documents, absolutely.
[01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.800]  But if an attorney is filing documents in their behalf,
[01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:46.800]  then I don't know of any reason they would have to be an attorney.
[01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:53.800]  But generally the substitute trustee is the one who actually prosecutes the foreclosure.
[01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:55.800]  Okay, that brings me to another question.
[01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:57.800]  Okay.
[01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:03.800]  We have another piece of property that is in the process of being foreclosed also.
[01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:12.800]  And what they did there was instead of appointing a person to be the substitute trustee,
[01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.800]  they appointed a corporation.
[01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.800]  Okay, they can do that.
[01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:18.800]  Okay.
[01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:26.800]  But whoever represents the corporation must be an attorney.
[01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:27.800]  Period.
[01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:33.800]  No, a corporation can never come into court process themselves.
[01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:34.800]  Yeah, how can they?
[01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:35.800]  They're a fictitious entity.
[01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:36.800]  Right.
[01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:37.800]  They don't really exist.
[01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.800]  And they can't send in an officer of the corporation like the CEO
[01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:48.800]  or some other member of the board of directors or something, they have to hire an attorney.
[01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.800]  Okay, then I think we might have a problem on that one too.
[01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:54.800]  No, no.
[01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:58.800]  Yeah, we had the same issue in the thing down at the courthouse that they did with Randy
[01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:00.800]  where the police officer was down there trying to represent the city.
[01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:01.800]  Yeah.
[01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:03.800]  Well, I was at the JP's office here in Austin.
[01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:04.800]  Yeah.
[01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.800]  I'm sitting there in court and they got the defendant on one side
[01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.800]  and the police officer on the other.
[01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:13.800]  And the guy was a college professor, but I guess he was so angry when he left,
[01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:15.800]  he wouldn't stop long enough to talk.
[01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:21.800]  I wanted to tell him that the city of Austin is a corporation
[01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.800]  and a corporation must be represented in court by an attorney.
[01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:33.800]  So that police officer was impersonating a public official
[01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:38.800]  and engaging in the illegal practice of law and he should go to jail for that.
[01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.800]  That's a class A buster man.
[01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:43.800]  All right, Jill, did you have anything else?
[01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.800]  We've got a full board of callers going on.
[01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:46.800]  No, I'm good, thank you.
[01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:47.800]  Okay, thanks, Jill.
[01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:48.800]  All right, thank you, guys.
[01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:50.800]  All right, we'll be right back.
[01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:53.800]  And Eddie has some important news and announcements that he's going to make
[01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:55.800]  on the other side of this break as well.
[01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:59.800]  We'll be right back.
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[01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:34.800]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand.
[01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:40.800]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again.
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[01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:48.800]  We're well underway into Hour 2 of Rule of Law Radio, ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:50.800]  And before we go to your calls,
[01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:54.800]  Eddie has some announcements and news that he'd like to be,
[01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.800]  that he would like to go over at this point in time.
[01:19:57.800 --> 01:19:59.800]  There's apparently some good news.
[01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:01.800]  Go ahead, Eddie, let's have it.
[01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:03.800]  Well, we've got a couple people out there.
[01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.800]  I know who's been waiting to hear this on the air all night.
[01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:10.800]  But in the case of the young lady that was hit by the,
[01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:15.800]  what we believe to still be at this point, illegal alien driving the SUV,
[01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:20.800]  and then the city of Austin attempted to blame her for it,
[01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:26.800]  we got her a complete dismissal in court a couple days ago.
[01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:28.800]  So she is out of the woods on that.
[01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:30.800]  Now all she's got to do is sue them for all of her pain,
[01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:32.800]  aggravation, and everything else,
[01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.800]  and the falsification of the police report that keeps her from making the claim
[01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:39.800]  on the insurance to pay for her damaged car.
[01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:41.800]  So she's going to sue the city of Austin.
[01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:43.800]  Well, she's making up her mind about that,
[01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:45.800]  told her to think about it and pray hard about it
[01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:48.800]  and then do whatever she was led to feel like she needed to do.
[01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.800]  What about the false police report?
[01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:51.800]  Is that getting changed?
[01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:54.800]  That is not at this moment getting changed.
[01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:56.800]  Hence the other reason why the suit would have to be filed
[01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:00.800]  or she's not going to be able to get anything out of the insurance company for the car.
[01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:04.800]  But again, that's her choice.
[01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:07.800]  The second piece of good news is that we had another gentleman from
[01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.800]  down at Brave New Books that I helped out with some recommendations
[01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.800]  on what to do in his case for traffic.
[01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:17.800]  He went down and filed a dismissal for like a subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:18.800]  brought it up to the court,
[01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:24.800]  court evaluated it and agreed they didn't have any and dismissed his case.
[01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.800]  So this week alone we've got two good wins,
[01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:30.800]  and hopefully we will continue to get more.
[01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.800]  Where was the second win at?
[01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:36.800]  I believe it was also here in Austin.
[01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.800]  You may be getting their attention.
[01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:39.800]  Well, let's hope so.
[01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:45.800]  I've got the prosecutors in the hallway staring at me with daggers from their eyes.
[01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:50.800]  Yeah, we were having a real good meeting after Marnie's dismissal out there in the hallway,
[01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:55.800]  and we had prosecutors doing everything but spitting venom on us.
[01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.800]  But it was a good day, and it's been a good week, and hopefully we'll get more people.
[01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:03.800]  While we were down there we gave out the information about the show
[01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:07.800]  and about the Saturday seminars to a bunch of people up outside the courtroom
[01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:11.800]  that were also being railroaded by the system and told them to give us a listen,
[01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:14.800]  especially on Monday night so we can tell them what they're getting into.
[01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.800]  So folks, if you're out there, listen clearly.
[01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:23.800]  If you are getting traffic tickets and you are not operating a commercial vehicle
[01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:31.800]  like a delivery truck, a taxi cab, a semi, or a bus that hauls passengers for hire,
[01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.800]  you are getting screwed.
[01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:38.800]  What's happening is a lie.
[01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:40.800]  You are not liable for that ticket.
[01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:46.800]  You have never been liable for that ticket, and you need to find out what the truth is,
[01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:48.800]  and that's what we're here to help you learn.
[01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:51.800]  So please attend the seminars on Saturday.
[01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:56.800]  Listen to the show on Monday nights where we go over this in specific detail.
[01:22:56.800 --> 01:23:00.800]  If you have questions, feel free to call in on any of the shows during the week
[01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:04.800]  from 8 to 10 Monday and Thursday and 8 to midnight on Friday.
[01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:09.800]  If we don't have anybody on the show as a guest or anything of that nature,
[01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:15.800]  we'll usually take phone calls on pretty much any subject if we're open for it at that night.
[01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:20.800]  But in any case, people, we're going to have some results coming in on this
[01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.800]  if the more of us that will stand up, the more likely we are to get it thrown out.
[01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.800]  These people can't beat us in numbers if we stick together
[01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.800]  and learn what the fight is and how to do it.
[01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:36.800]  So please attend the seminars, please help support the issue because it is important.
[01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:40.800]  And don't forget to buy Eddie's traffic seminar.
[01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:42.800]  Well, that helps too.
[01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:48.800]  That's the recording of the two-day seminar that we had at Brave New Books last year,
[01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:54.800]  and it is a lot of excellent information, and Eddie has updated materials since then,
[01:23:54.800 --> 01:24:00.800]  so I highly recommend that course.
[01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:05.800]  This is more important than just traffic citations.
[01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:09.800]  This is about taking the system back.
[01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:14.800]  This is the seat of government in Texas, and you have to know,
[01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:19.800]  every county in the state is going to find out what's going on here.
[01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:23.800]  Every major municipality is going to know exactly what's going on here.
[01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:28.800]  Mr. Earring Boy, that I can cram this motions down your throat,
[01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:34.800]  I guarantee you every magistrate in the state is going to have that in their training classes.
[01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.800]  Don't be like this clown.
[01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:42.800]  If somebody comes in and hammers you with stuff you don't want to deal with,
[01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:47.800]  take your earring off.
[01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:52.800]  Yeah, and bite your tongue because these judges are getting way out of hand.
[01:24:52.800 --> 01:25:00.800]  In fact, I'm working on a motion to recuse for Dominic against the same judge,
[01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:06.800]  Judge Statman, that wound up getting the dismissal from in one of these cases
[01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:11.800]  simply because this lady is arrogant.
[01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:13.800]  I mean utterly arrogant.
[01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:14.800]  She's young.
[01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:16.800]  She's an attorney.
[01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:22.800]  I mean she's got attitude that would put a sailor to shame on what she can do.
[01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:24.800]  Have you bargained her?
[01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:30.800]  We've got a whole list of bar grievances we've got to make against her for the cases that I've set in and witnessed.
[01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:37.800]  She is also the same judge that told the city marshals to forbid entry to her courtroom
[01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:45.800]  by any member of the media during Mike's trial, and she got reamed royally over that one.
[01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:51.800]  And then tried to throw the city marshals under the bus by telling the reporter in an email
[01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:58.800]  that they just misunderstood her instructions and didn't do anything properly.
[01:25:58.800 --> 01:25:59.800]  She gave the order.
[01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:00.800]  I was sitting there listening to it.
[01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:02.800]  She gave it multiple times.
[01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:09.800]  In fact, she directly threatened me because someone brought it to her attention that I, in fact,
[01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:12.800]  was a member of the media being on this show,
[01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:16.800]  even though I was not there in the courtroom in that capacity.
[01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:22.800]  She did a veiled threat on the record right there in the courtroom that any personnel
[01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:27.800]  that were members of the media that remained in her courtroom after she made this announcement
[01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:32.800]  were going to be held for contempt.
[01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:34.800]  I just sat there and grinned at her.
[01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:40.800]  And then she tried to act like that was a big misunderstanding and her staff misunderstood.
[01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:41.800]  Oh, yes, she did.
[01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:45.800]  And the reporter actually went down and called a district judge.
[01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:50.800]  The district judge, and I quote, that woman is crazy.
[01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:54.800]  Who's in charge down there?
[01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:59.800]  And the reporter gave the district judge, Evelyn McKee, who is the head administrative judge,
[01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:00.800]  gave her her name.
[01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.800]  He called her immediately, gave her what for.
[01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:10.800]  And then apparently Judge McKee called Judge Statman and gave her what for.
[01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:15.800]  Because within an hour of us departing the courtroom,
[01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:20.800]  this was sent to the news reporter from News 8, and he made us aware of it,
[01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:23.800]  but I have yet to be able to get him to give me a copy of this email.
[01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.800]  I want this email.
[01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:27.800]  Why?
[01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:30.800]  Because I'm going to take this email down to the municipal court,
[01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:36.800]  and I am going to make very sure that all the city marshals know what these judges
[01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:41.800]  are willing to do to them by using them to commit crimes
[01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:43.800]  and then blaming them for them after the fact.
[01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:55.800]  If this was an email sent by a public official to a media representative, open record.
[01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:59.800]  But, of course, you and I know that email has disappeared already,
[01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:07.800]  except for the one he's got, but I would still like to get a copy of it.
[01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:14.800]  If the judge has destroyed that email, that's tampering with the government document
[01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.800]  or public records.
[01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:20.800]  Well, again, we don't know what she sent it from.
[01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.800]  I don't know if she sent it from her actual business computer
[01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:26.800]  or from a personal computer or something.
[01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:29.800]  We don't care where she sent it from.
[01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:37.800]  This was a matter regarding her acting in her official capacity.
[01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.800]  She could have sent it from her grandkid's computer.
[01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:42.800]  It's not going to make any difference.
[01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:46.800]  Well, in that case, folks, let's put in an open records request to the court
[01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:48.800]  demanding a copy of that email.
[01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:53.800]  Everybody listening that's in the Austin area or in Texas
[01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:57.800]  or anywhere else for that matter, file a written request and mail it.
[01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:04.800]  Everybody that's listening, send the Austin Municipal Court an open records request
[01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:11.800]  for a copy of the email sent by Judge Sherry M. Statman to News 8,
[01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:20.800]  which is now YNN News, regarding her statement to ban all media from her courtroom
[01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:24.800]  during the case of Mike Handel.
[01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:28.800]  Now, shouldn't that, couldn't we get the transcript of that hearing
[01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:30.800]  and prove that as well?
[01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.800]  Sure, that's going to be our other evidence that there was no mistake
[01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:35.800]  in the fulfilling of her demands.
[01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:39.800]  That is, if the court reporter will actually give an accurate transcript.
[01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:40.800]  She doesn't have a choice.
[01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:45.800]  We found out today that that transcript is now an official part of the court record
[01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.800]  and is available through open records.
[01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.800]  If she accurately transcribed, that is, we'll see.
[01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:55.800]  Well, Judge made the point of saying, on the record, I say.
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[01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:23.800]  Okay, folks, we're back. We're going to be taking your calls now.
[01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:27.800]  Okay, we are – let's go to Dominic real quick.
[01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:29.800]  He just called in. He was a court watcher.
[01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.800]  He wants to offer up some information, and then we'll go to Gerald.
[01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:35.800]  Dominic, thanks for calling in. What do you got for us tonight?
[01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:38.800]  Good evening, first of all.
[01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.800]  Yeah, I just wanted to let you all know I went back on Monday.
[01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:47.800]  On Monday, I didn't have a full day to work, so I was able to take that half a day off and go to court.
[01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:51.800]  I'm sorry I missed Tuesday, but I went in just to be court watcher,
[01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:55.800]  and I walked in – just happened to walk in to Statman's office,
[01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:58.800]  or in the courtroom where she was presiding.
[01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:04.800]  And me being the shy and timid individual I am, I went and sat in the front row,
[01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:09.800]  and she couldn't get her eyes off me. She knew exactly who I was.
[01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:13.800]  She's already gotten copies of the judicial complaints.
[01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:16.800]  I know this because when I filed them, there was a question,
[01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:20.800]  do you want us to show it to the judge? And I always put yes.
[01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.800]  So yeah, she just – she couldn't get her eyes off me,
[01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.800]  and she started talking to the court reporter,
[01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.800]  because they wound up dismissing that case that they were going to hear.
[01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:35.800]  So she would lean behind the monitor that she has on the bench there,
[01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:38.800]  and she was talking about me, and the court reporter would look at her and look at me.
[01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:46.800]  I mean, it was obvious. But yeah, we're getting their attention.
[01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.800]  Yep, that's good. I mean, I can't walk in that courtroom down there right now.
[01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:53.800]  She's gotten to where she's seen me in too many different cases.
[01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:57.800]  I'll walk in, she'll look right at me, and there's something wrong with this.
[01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:02.800]  In fact, she's the one that made me move to the right-hand side of the room,
[01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.800]  because she figured out that I was aiding and abetting Mike
[01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:11.800]  in his presentation in court using baseball signals.
[01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:16.800]  Of course, it didn't help that Mike would turn and look right at me
[01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:18.800]  when he didn't know what to do next.
[01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:21.800]  And I'm sitting there trying real hard not to look at him,
[01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:24.800]  but I'm watching the screen at the computer's table.
[01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:28.800]  But he would turn and look at me. The jurors would turn and look at me.
[01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:33.800]  The judge would turn. The only one that wouldn't turn is the prosecutor.
[01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:37.800]  But yeah, she eventually caught on and made me move to the side of the room
[01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:41.800]  where I'd be directly behind him when he was there at his table,
[01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:43.800]  and he couldn't see me.
[01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:45.800]  I guess that's where we need more people to go.
[01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:46.800]  Yep, exactly.
[01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.800]  If somebody else can take over.
[01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:54.800]  Exactly. Yeah, it was an effort, and Mike did a great job.
[01:34:54.800 --> 01:35:00.800]  If we could just teach him to be a little bit more subtle with the watches, you know?
[01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:05.800]  Yeah, it was good that Dominic did what he did and is doing what he's doing.
[01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:09.800]  If more of us would do it, we could throw such a wrench in this system,
[01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:15.800]  it would eventually have to crumble under its own expense of operations.
[01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:19.800]  If we can slow down the revenue generation and the money enough,
[01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:22.800]  they can't afford to keep it going.
[01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:29.800]  We're talking in excess of three or 304,000 citations a year just in Austin.
[01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:36.800]  That's almost 1,000 citations a day this court has to wade through.
[01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:45.800]  So if 1%, 2%, 3%, and we just keep building the number of people that challenge it,
[01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:49.800]  it's going to fall apart.
[01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:51.800]  Hit him where it hurts in the pocketbook.
[01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:52.800]  Exactly.
[01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.800]  I've also been doing what Randy does.
[01:35:54.800 --> 01:36:01.800]  When I walk in and sit down on any of these proceedings, either the attorney or the clerk,
[01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:03.800]  they're like, oh, we need to get your name.
[01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:05.800]  I just look at them, no, you don't.
[01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:09.800]  And I just sit down and they just stand there with a blank look on their face.
[01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:14.800]  They're not used to anybody talking to them but telling them, oh, yes, sir, oh, no, ma'am, no, yes,
[01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:15.800]  being all nervous.
[01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:20.800]  And I just walk in, just look at them, just calmly, no, you don't.
[01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:22.800]  I have nothing to say to you.
[01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:24.800]  Yeah, my name is Court Watcher.
[01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:26.800]  Would you like me to spell it?
[01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.800]  Oh, and they're looking at me all nervous.
[01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:36.800]  But needless to say, put me on that list for the request for that email.
[01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:37.800]  All right.
[01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:43.800]  Well, like I say, I am working on that motion to recuse for you.
[01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:45.800]  You're going to like it.
[01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:51.800]  It's basically the entire step-by-step process of exactly where it all begins when you first get
[01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:58.800]  your notice to appear all the way down through what 99% of these judges do when you appear before them.
[01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:01.800]  And we're going through and setting them up by statute.
[01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:06.800]  And then we're arguing exactly how the statute was violated by the actions of the judge
[01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:11.800]  and how it deprived the defendant of their right in court at that time,
[01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.800]  all of which introduced fatal flaws in the prosecution.
[01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:18.800]  So I'm getting to where I've got it, where it's going.
[01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:23.800]  So just hang in there as long as you've got a couple more days, we'll stay good to get it filed.
[01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:28.800]  And also, when I first went to plead in front of Statman,
[01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:37.800]  where she put on there that I was objecting to her pleading for me because there was no verified criminal complaint,
[01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:41.800]  I made sure she put that down when she entered the plea for me.
[01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:48.800]  So we've got that in her writing also, if you need it.
[01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:49.800]  But that's all I have.
[01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.800]  I know you all have a lot more callers.
[01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:54.800]  Just wanted to keep you all updated on what's going on.
[01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:55.800]  Thanks, Dominic.
[01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:57.800]  You keep giving them the old one, too.
[01:37:57.800 --> 01:37:58.800]  Oh, yeah.
[01:37:58.800 --> 01:37:59.800]  You all have a great evening.
[01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:00.800]  Okay.
[01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:01.800]  All right, bye-bye.
[01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:02.800]  Bye.
[01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:04.800]  All right, we're going to go now to Gerald in Texas.
[01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:06.800]  All right, Gerald, thank you for holding.
[01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:08.800]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:16.800]  I sent Randy an e-mail the other day, and he told me to call in tonight to discuss the procedures for submitting,
[01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:23.800]  finding them back in conclusion of law and forcing the...
[01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:27.800]  Forcing what?
[01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.800]  Did we lose him?
[01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:33.800]  I'm looking.
[01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:34.800]  Gerald, are you still there?
[01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.800]  Yeah, I sure am.
[01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:37.800]  All right, Randy was asking you something.
[01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:39.800]  Yeah, you didn't finish.
[01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:41.800]  Forcing what?
[01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:46.800]  The judge to submit his offer.
[01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:48.800]  Okay, I thought you might have been going to something else.
[01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:58.800]  Okay, once the judge renders a ruling, you can ask him for findings of fact and conclusions of law.
[01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:04.800]  And the way we suggest you do that is you write up your own findings of fact.
[01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:10.800]  You say, in the process of the hearing, these facts were brought out.
[01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:11.800]  Right.
[01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:17.800]  You got a ticket on this day, you appeared at this time, just walk through the facts.
[01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:30.800]  And based on these facts and considering the applicable law, you should come to these conclusions.
[01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:40.800]  Now, accept my findings of fact and conclusions of law or prepare your own to show justification for your ruling.
[01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:44.800]  The judge has two primary duties.
[01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:49.800]  The judge must determine the facts in accordance with the rules of evidence.
[01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:56.800]  And then the judge must apply the law to the facts in the case.
[01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:58.800]  That's what you ask them for.
[01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.800]  You're not going to be interested in their opinions.
[01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:10.800]  You're going to be interested in the facts that were brought out in the case and how the law applies to those facts.
[01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:14.800]  Okay, but is that filed with the clerk of the court?
[01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:16.800]  Yes, everything's filed with the clerk of the court.
[01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:18.800]  Just mail it to them.
[01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:20.800]  Now, they'll ignore it.
[01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:22.800]  They always do.
[01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:28.800]  But then we get to charge the judge with official oppression for failing to do it.
[01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:34.800]  You need those findings of fact and conclusions at law so you know how to prepare your appeal.
[01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:44.800]  By not performing a duty she's required to perform, she denies you and your right to a fair jurist in the first instance.
[01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:45.800]  Okay.
[01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:54.800]  So we judicial conductor, complainer, if it's a municipal court, we griever with the bar grievance and that'll sting her good.
[01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:55.800]  Okay.
[01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:58.800]  You cut out there for a moment.
[01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:05.800]  The finding and facts of the conclusions at law that we submit get submitted with the clerk of the court, correct?
[01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:06.800]  Yes.
[01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:07.800]  Okay.
[01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:09.800]  And that puts it in the court record.
[01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:11.800]  Everything goes to the clerk of the court.
[01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:14.800]  Everything you submit will go to the clerk of the court.
[01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:15.800]  Okay.
[01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.800]  And I suggest you don't do it in person, mail it.
[01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:26.800]  You don't ever want them to see you and be able to deal with you or be able to even think they can deal with you.
[01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:27.800]  Okay.
[01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:29.800]  Sharp shoot them through the mail.
[01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:30.800]  Okay.
[01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:41.800]  And just for the record, I do in fact have Sand Pat, grand jury at yahoo.com.
[01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:44.800]  Okay. Say that again, Sand?
[01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:46.800]  Pat.
[01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:48.800]  Spell that.
[01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:49.800]  T-A-T.
[01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:51.800]  Oh, Sand Pat.
[01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:52.800]  Okay.
[01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:53.800]  Yes.
[01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:55.800]  It's short for San Patricio.
[01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:56.800]  Oh, okay.
[01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:58.800]  Sand Pat at yahoo.com?
[01:41:58.800 --> 01:41:59.800]  No.
[01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:00.800]  Grand jury.
[01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.800]  Oh, grand jury.
[01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:03.800]  Yes.
[01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:07.800]  At yahoo.com.
[01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:10.800]  Oh, Sand Pat grand jury at yahoo.com.
[01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:11.800]  Okay.
[01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:16.800]  That is correct.
[01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:17.800]  Okay.
[01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:19.800]  We'll whip that up and I'll let you know how it goes.
[01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:20.800]  Wonderful.
[01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:21.800]  Yeah.
[01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:22.800]  I sure appreciate you guys' help.
[01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:23.800]  You guys are outstanding.
[01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:24.800]  Okay.
[01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:25.800]  Just one thing.
[01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:26.800]  Just one thing.
[01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:29.800]  Don't have too much fun.
[01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:30.800]  I don't know.
[01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:31.800]  You know, I'm tired.
[01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:32.800]  Okay.
[01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:33.800]  Go ahead.
[01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:34.800]  Have lots of fun.
[01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:35.800]  Okay.
[01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:36.800]  I will.
[01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:37.800]  Okay.
[01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:38.800]  You guys have a good night now.
[01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:40.800]  All right.
[01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:41.800]  Thanks.
[01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:42.800]  Thanks, Gerald.
[01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:43.800]  Okay.
[01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:44.800]  Bye.
[01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:45.800]  Okay.
[01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:47.800]  Moving on to your calls, we're going to go to Marcus in Virginia now.
[01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:48.800]  Okay.
[01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:49.800]  Marcus, thanks for calling in.
[01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:51.800]  What do you got for us tonight?
[01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:52.800]  What's on your mind?
[01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.800]  Well, same situation with the mall.
[01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:58.800]  Do you recall what happened there?
[01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:00.800]  Do I have to go over it again?
[01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:07.800]  I was arbitrarily arrested and held in handcuffs for about an hour and a half with my son there.
[01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:11.800]  For those who don't remember, he was taking photographs of his son and...
[01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:12.800]  No, I wasn't.
[01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:13.800]  Were you taking photographs?
[01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:15.800]  They claimed that, but I wasn't.
[01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:18.800]  They claim you were taking photographs of your own son?
[01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:22.800]  Well, the person who approached me, who I believe was...
[01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:23.800]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:27.800]  No, I'm trying to do this short, not going into all the details.
[01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:30.800]  You were accused of taking photographs of children.
[01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:31.800]  Is that it?
[01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:32.800]  Well, that's the point.
[01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:35.800]  I don't know what I was accused of exactly.
[01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:37.800]  I want to find that out.
[01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:38.800]  Okay.
[01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:41.800]  We will address that on the other side.
[01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.800]  We'll sort out this confusion.
[01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:48.800]  This is Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, Wheel of Law Radio.
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[01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:15.800]  Hello. Oh, man. In jail. I'm broke, man.
[01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:30.800]  Something in this world I will never understand. Something I realize fully.
[01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:38.800]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:48.800]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
[01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:54.800]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to bill. They know they make they don't do it.
[01:46:54.800 --> 01:47:00.800]  Somebody will be amazed. This world will never understand.
[01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:08.800]  Something I realize fully. Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.800]  Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:16.800]  All right, folks. We're back. Having a little off-air humor here.
[01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:21.800]  We're talking about this Gerald Solente video. It's hilarious. You guys gotta go.
[01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:26.800]  There's a link to it on PrisonPlanet.com. He was on a mainstream news site,
[01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:32.800]  and he was talking about the global banking system and the situation in Libya
[01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:35.800]  and how it's all about oil and all this stuff.
[01:47:35.800 --> 01:47:40.800]  And he goes, come on, folks. Do you really think we would have invaded Iraq
[01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:44.800]  if their primary export was broccoli?
[01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:49.800]  This is funny. And Randy says, well, maybe we would have because Papa Bush hated broccoli.
[01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.800]  He made a big deal about it, and all the broccoli farmers were having a cow over it.
[01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:57.800]  And then Randy was saying, what was this about Kennedy not wearing a hat?
[01:47:57.800 --> 01:47:59.800]  What happened? It put the haberdashery industry out of business?
[01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:02.800]  Yeah, hey, before that, everybody wore hats.
[01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:04.800]  All the presidents wore hats before that.
[01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:09.800]  Everybody. It was a standard thing. You look in all the old 50s photos and stuff,
[01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:14.800]  everybody's wearing a padora. Kennedy come along, he didn't wear hats,
[01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:16.800]  and everybody quit wearing hats.
[01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:22.800]  That's because he couldn't wear the little round straw carnival crier's hat,
[01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:25.800]  which is what would fit him best in some cases.
[01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:32.800]  Yeah, the Union of Haberdasheries Association should have sued Kennedy, I guess, over that one.
[01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:37.800]  Anyway, sorry, we're digressing. So we are going to your calls now.
[01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:39.800]  Okay, we're talking to Marcus in Virginia.
[01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:44.800]  Okay, so Marcus, you're not clear just as to who exactly, I mean,
[01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:48.800]  just as to what exactly the charges are against you. Is that where we're at now?
[01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:52.800]  Or why they're in?
[01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:56.800]  Well, I want to know who and what I am accused of.
[01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:02.800]  Okay, wait, wait. Now, we have a listening audience here,
[01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:08.800]  and in order for us to get oriented, you need to kind of give us really quickly what they did.
[01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.800]  Apparently you had a camera and they didn't like the camera,
[01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.800]  and they stopped you and took you in the back.
[01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:18.800]  Sorry, I need to find out what they're saying about me.
[01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:21.800]  I don't even know what this person, whoever they are, is saying about me.
[01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:25.800]  Do you know what they said? Wait, do you know what they said to you?
[01:49:25.800 --> 01:49:27.800]  I know what they said to me.
[01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:33.800]  Well, tell us what they said to you. That's what we're trying to find out.
[01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:35.800]  Well, I want to know what they said to the police.
[01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:37.800]  Well, we've got some listeners here who are trying...
[01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:43.800]  Okay, look, everybody doesn't listen to this show every time,
[01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.800]  and you've got a lot of people out there who have no clue what you're talking about,
[01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:48.800]  and you won't tell them.
[01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:59.800]  No. Well, I mean, listen, whatever this guy says, I mean, it's a lie, first of all,
[01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:04.800]  because he told me... Sorry, if you want to go back to the very beginning,
[01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:09.800]  what the guy told me was that his wife saw me taking pictures.
[01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:13.800]  I immediately said, I don't believe your wife even exists.
[01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:16.800]  I just stormed off with Ross right after that.
[01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:19.800]  Well, wait a minute, hold on, Marcus, have you looked at your file yet?
[01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:23.800]  Have you got a copy of everything that's in your file to see if there's a criminal complaint,
[01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:27.800]  and if so, what you're exactly being charged with?
[01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:28.800]  No, wait a minute, no, you aren't charged...
[01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:29.800]  I can't believe that there...
[01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:30.800]  Wait a minute.
[01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:31.800]  What file? The police report?
[01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:34.800]  He... Stop, stop. This is too confusing.
[01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:43.800]  Marcus was in a mall, someone stopped him about him having a camera,
[01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:45.800]  they took him back in the mall...
[01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:47.800]  He was already on the cell phone dialing...
[01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:50.800]  Wait, wait, wait, Marcus, don't, wait, stop.
[01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:55.800]  Don't start running off in 20 directions, we can't even get oriented on where we're at.
[01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:57.800]  But going all...
[01:50:57.800 --> 01:50:58.800]  Okay.
[01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:02.800]  Okay, they took, they held you, they restricted you,
[01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:08.800]  they took you to some other place and questioned you, and then they released you.
[01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:10.800]  Is that the short of it?
[01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:11.800]  They didn't arrest...
[01:51:11.800 --> 01:51:15.800]  Well, they did all this in handcuffs, so they arrested me and held me there for an hour and a half.
[01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:21.800]  They didn't transport you to jail, and apparently no one filed any criminal complaints against you.
[01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:24.800]  There's no pending charges against you.
[01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:26.800]  Not that I know of, they released me.
[01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:27.800]  Okay, so...
[01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:29.800]  They did not take me to a magistrate.
[01:51:29.800 --> 01:51:35.800]  Okay, so now you're trying to do what?
[01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:43.800]  Well, I want to find out exactly what this guy said, you know, who my accuser is and what they said about me to the police.
[01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:45.800]  Okay.
[01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:49.800]  And I don't know, I don't know that there was ever any woman.
[01:51:49.800 --> 01:52:04.800]  Okay, then I suggest you request a copy of the personal recording device that's carried by all police officers.
[01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:06.800]  Recording device.
[01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:10.800]  Yes, all police officers carry a personal recording device.
[01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:13.800]  Yeah, they call them body mics.
[01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:15.800]  Oh, they all have one.
[01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:19.800]  These were police officers that were in the mall?
[01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:25.800]  No, apparently they called a... these were security and they called a police officer.
[01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:29.800]  Is that right, Marcus?
[01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:34.800]  There was the initial person who approached me.
[01:52:34.800 --> 01:52:37.800]  He was not wearing any uniform.
[01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.800]  I believe he was undercover.
[01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:41.800]  Okay.
[01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:43.800]  He was already on the phone talking to...
[01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:45.800]  Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
[01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:46.800]  Okay.
[01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:53.800]  Did they at any time bring in a uniformed officer?
[01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:59.800]  Well, after I stormed off and the thing started following me, so I decided to go straight to the security desk.
[01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:02.800]  Did they bring...
[01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:03.800]  Okay, straight up question, yeah.
[01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:07.800]  Did they bring in an actual police officer?
[01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:14.800]  Yeah, well, no, the police showed up soon after I arrived at the security desk.
[01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:21.800]  So it was the police that put you in handcuffs or was it the mall security that put you in handcuffs?
[01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:24.800]  So the police arrived, they asked me my name.
[01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:26.800]  Next thing you know, they got handcuffs on.
[01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:29.800]  Okay, so it was the police.
[01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:33.800]  It wasn't the mall security that put you in handcuffs.
[01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:34.800]  Right, it was the police.
[01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:39.800]  Okay, you're making it really hard to drag this story out of you.
[01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:40.800]  Okay.
[01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:41.800]  I'm not making it hard.
[01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:42.800]  I'm just trying to...
[01:53:42.800 --> 01:53:45.800]  Okay, look, we're asking clear questions.
[01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:55.800]  Okay, so you were actually taken into physical custody by police officers and not mall security.
[01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:56.800]  Right.
[01:53:56.800 --> 01:54:03.800]  Those police officers will have personal recording devices on them and turned on at all times.
[01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:04.800]  Okay.
[01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:17.800]  Yes, so if mall security told the police something, then you would be able to get copies of whatever was recorded on the body mics of the police officers.
[01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:26.800]  But you may not ever be able to find out who this other unknown individual was that may have said something to mall security.
[01:54:26.800 --> 01:54:35.800]  See, there may have been somebody, some mall patron that made a report to mall security and then mall security said something to the police.
[01:54:35.800 --> 01:54:40.800]  You'll probably be able to get the recording of whatever the mall security said to the police,
[01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:48.800]  but you'll probably never find out what this unknown possible patron undercover whoever said to mall security.
[01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:50.800]  That will probably never, you'll never find out.
[01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.800]  But you will be able to find out whatever was told to the police.
[01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:55.800]  Okay, does that make sense?
[01:54:55.800 --> 01:55:00.800]  Well, what about what was told to the police on the cell phone?
[01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:01.800]  What about it?
[01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:03.800]  9-1-1.
[01:55:03.800 --> 01:55:07.800]  Was there a 9-1-1 call made?
[01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:09.800]  Well, that's what I was trying to tell you.
[01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:10.800]  Okay.
[01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:13.800]  As soon as the guy approached me, he was already on the cell phone.
[01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:15.800]  That doesn't mean it's a 9-1-1.
[01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:16.800]  What I suggest is...
[01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:17.800]  Well, I believe it was.
[01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:18.800]  Okay.
[01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:21.800]  But what you believe is it was going to be recorded.
[01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:23.800]  Will you stop a minute, Marcus?
[01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:26.800]  Listen, you're asking how to do this.
[01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:28.800]  Let me tell you.
[01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:29.800]  Okay.
[01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:34.800]  If there was a call and if the police were dispatched,
[01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:40.800]  request the dispatch logs for that day from the police department.
[01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:43.800]  That'll tell you who made the call.
[01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:49.800]  That'll tell you who dispatched them and what they dispatched them for and who was dispatched.
[01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:54.800]  You can't always find out who made the 9-1-1 calls in order to protect whoever called.
[01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:55.800]  Yeah.
[01:55:55.800 --> 01:56:01.800]  For instance, here in Austin, that particular type of report is called a CAD report.
[01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:09.800]  I mean, this is to protect victims or people who are making anonymous tips that call 9-1-1.
[01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:10.800]  Okay.
[01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:14.800]  Whoever made the 9-1-1 call and the content,
[01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:19.800]  the recording of the 9-1-1 call is not always going to be available as a matter of public record.
[01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:20.800]  That's just the way it is.
[01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:25.800]  It will be if it was mall security because he was acting in the capacity of a public official.
[01:56:25.800 --> 01:56:27.800]  Well, that's a different story.
[01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:32.800]  If it was mall security, you can get the name of who made the call.
[01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:37.800]  And most likely, this was not a 9-1-1 call.
[01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:39.800]  If it was mall security, they didn't call 9-1-1.
[01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:41.800]  They called a non-emergency number.
[01:56:41.800 --> 01:56:46.800]  And whatever conversation transpired once the police got there,
[01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:50.800]  you would be able to get a recording of that from the body mics.
[01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:55.800]  You won't ever get it, but you ask for it, and then you jump up and down and raise cane.
[01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:57.800]  Might be able to get it.
[01:56:57.800 --> 01:56:58.800]  Okay.
[01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.800]  One thing you've got to understand about police officers is they're testifiers.
[01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:03.800]  I understand.
[01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:10.800]  Nowadays, the policing industry has deteriorated to the point that they practice to see who can tell the biggest whopper.
[01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:11.800]  Okay.
[01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:13.800]  And here's another issue.
[01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:17.800]  Even if you found out who did it or what the contents of the conversation are, what is the point?
[01:57:17.800 --> 01:57:23.800]  Are you going to try to sue somebody over this or file criminal charges over somebody?
[01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:27.800]  I mean, you never got charged by the police, right?
[01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:28.800]  Okay.
[01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:34.800]  So are you just going to try to sue the police or file criminal charges against the police for false imprisonment or false arrest or something?
[01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:39.800]  Is that what this is all about?
[01:57:39.800 --> 01:57:46.800]  Ultimately, I want them to be examined by the magistrate.
[01:57:46.800 --> 01:57:47.800]  The police.
[01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:48.800]  Then you want to file criminal charges.
[01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:49.800]  Yeah.
[01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:51.800]  I want the police to be examined by the magistrate.
[01:57:51.800 --> 01:57:52.800]  I have that right.
[01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:53.800]  They were.
[01:57:53.800 --> 01:57:55.800]  They did arrest me.
[01:57:55.800 --> 01:58:04.800]  The next step should be, right, they should be examined by the magistrate and explained to the magistrate why they arrested me.
[01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:05.800]  Okay.
[01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:07.800]  That's what I want.
[01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:09.800]  Okay. I hope we have answered your questions.
[01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:13.800]  Make these requests to the department.
[01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:16.800]  That's your next step is to secure this information.
[01:58:16.800 --> 01:58:22.800]  And you may want to request any police reports that were filed over this incident even though there weren't any charges filed.
[01:58:22.800 --> 01:58:25.800]  There may have been a write-up.
[01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:26.800]  Okay.
[01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:27.800]  Does that make sense?
[01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:29.800]  I want to know what they testified to the magistrate.
[01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:30.800]  Well, ask them.
[01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:31.800]  Ask them.
[01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:32.800]  They didn't testify to the magistrate.
[01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:34.800]  There was no magistrate involved ever.
[01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:35.800]  You just need to find out.
[01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:37.800]  You need to get audio recordings.
[01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:38.800]  You need to get transcripts.
[01:58:38.800 --> 01:58:42.800]  And you need to get any police reports that were filed over the incident.
[01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:43.800]  Okay.
[01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:44.800]  We have to go.
[01:58:44.800 --> 01:58:45.800]  We're running out of time.
[01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:50.800]  Call back in tomorrow, Marcus and Mike and everyone else for a four-hour info marathon.
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[01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:55.800]  And God bless.
[01:58:55.800 --> 01:59:05.800]  We'll talk to you tomorrow.
[01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:45.800]  We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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