[00:00.000 --> 00:04.860]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:04.860 --> 00:10.480]  One in three fighters killed in US drone attacks in Pakistan's remote tribal areas is in fact
[00:10.480 --> 00:14.400]  a civilian, according to a report by a US think tank.
[00:14.400 --> 00:21.080]  A new American Foundation's report studied 114 drone raids in which more than 1,200 people
[00:21.080 --> 00:22.080]  were killed.
[00:22.080 --> 00:29.760]  Of those, up to 849 were reliably reported to be fighters, while the rest were civilians.
[00:29.760 --> 00:34.840]  A US congressional panel has described the killing of Armenians by Turkish forces during
[00:34.840 --> 00:39.480]  World War I as genocide, despite White House objections.
[00:39.480 --> 00:43.280]  The resolution was narrowly approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
[00:43.280 --> 00:49.760]  Turkey, a key US ally, responded by calling its ambassador in Washington for consultations.
[00:49.760 --> 00:55.440]  In northwestern Pakistan, 12 people were killed Friday after a suicide bomber targeted Shi'ite
[00:55.440 --> 00:59.840]  Muslims on two buses being escorted by security forces.
[00:59.840 --> 01:08.000]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report.
[01:08.000 --> 01:14.320]  Former head of Pakistan's ISI spy agency Hamid Ghol says US intelligence agencies are seeking
[01:14.320 --> 01:18.560]  to foment unrest in Iran and train terrorist groups.
[01:18.560 --> 01:23.880]  Ghol said Wednesday Washington is supporting groups like the Pakistan-based Jundala terrorist
[01:23.880 --> 01:24.880]  group.
[01:24.880 --> 01:30.920]  Ghol said US intelligence agencies pursue just one goal by provoking unrest and instability
[01:30.920 --> 01:31.920]  in Iran.
[01:31.920 --> 01:37.800]  Ghol also accused Washington and its allies of seeking to strain ties between Iran and
[01:37.800 --> 01:38.800]  Pakistan.
[01:38.800 --> 01:45.800]  Ghol's remarks come days after Iranian security forces arrested Jundala ringleader Abdul Malik
[01:45.800 --> 01:51.240]  Rigi on a flight from the United Arab Emirates to Kyrgyzstan.
[01:51.240 --> 01:56.440]  During his arrest, Rigi talked about offers of unlimited support by the CIA, saying the
[01:56.440 --> 02:00.960]  Americans, quote, �promised to give us a base along the border with Afghanistan near
[02:00.960 --> 02:07.480]  Iran.� Rigi's group has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist attacks in Iran, including
[02:07.480 --> 02:15.680]  murders, armed robberies, kidnappings, sabotage and bombings.
[02:15.680 --> 02:20.880]  Doctors in the Iraqi city of Fallujah are reporting a high level of birth defects, with some blaming
[02:20.880 --> 02:24.240]  weapons used by the US after the Iraq invasion.
[02:24.240 --> 02:30.120]  The city witnessed fierce fighting in 2004 as US forces carried out a major offensive
[02:30.120 --> 02:33.160]  using depleted uranium and white phosphorus.
[02:33.160 --> 02:38.000]  Now the level of heart defects among newborn babies is said to be 13 times higher than
[02:38.000 --> 02:39.640]  in Europe.
[02:39.640 --> 02:45.280]  Researcher Malik Handam said doctors in Fallujah were witnessing a, quote, �massive unprecedented
[02:45.280 --> 02:52.280]  number of heart defects and an increase in the number of nervous system defects.�
[03:15.280 --> 03:43.120]  Okay, we are back with Steve, the financial analyst.
[03:43.120 --> 03:47.680]  We're taking our calls and we have Ruben on the line.
[03:47.680 --> 03:51.240]  Ruben, just hold on one second because Randy and I both have some questions for Steve now
[03:51.240 --> 03:54.720]  about this idea, this service.
[03:54.720 --> 04:02.840]  I was curious as to how maybe this could help the network because unfortunately, in a way,
[04:02.840 --> 04:05.800]  Steve, the product that I sell is billboards.
[04:05.800 --> 04:07.920]  I mean, I sell advertising slots.
[04:07.920 --> 04:12.880]  That's the only way that a radio station or radio network can survive and I need to start
[04:12.880 --> 04:18.680]  being able to get enough sponsors so that I have three-minute long breaks so that I
[04:18.680 --> 04:23.440]  can start conforming with standard radio formats so we can get syndicated on major stations.
[04:23.440 --> 04:30.600]  I have to have those slots filled and so I'm selling advertising slots and so the program
[04:30.600 --> 04:36.000]  that you're talking about, how could that be used in conjunction with what I need to
[04:36.000 --> 04:37.000]  do?
[04:37.000 --> 04:41.200]  Well, there's a whole bunch of different angles here, okay?
[04:41.200 --> 04:44.280]  Nothing that our company is trying to do, and I say our company because I've worked
[04:44.280 --> 04:46.720]  for them now, okay?
[04:46.720 --> 04:52.280]  Nothing that this company is doing is trying to put any existing media outlet out of business
[04:52.280 --> 04:59.840]  or to take away people's tried and true ad campaign format.
[04:59.840 --> 05:06.040]  We just want to merge with a more intelligent way of helping the consumer.
[05:06.040 --> 05:10.500]  The happier that consumer is and the more attention you can get from the consumer to
[05:10.500 --> 05:19.240]  go to your advertiser's businesses online or brick and mortar, at the end of the equation,
[05:19.240 --> 05:21.960]  it all comes down to the same thing.
[05:21.960 --> 05:28.720]  Increase their traffic, give them a decent rate, stop having them waste money on stuff.
[05:28.720 --> 05:37.140]  In my company, we call traditional advertising pay and then pray because you take the cash
[05:37.140 --> 05:42.680]  out of your pocket, you slap it down on the table and okay, go run that ad and then you
[05:42.680 --> 05:43.680]  pray.
[05:43.680 --> 05:48.920]  We sent 5,000 letters out for a seminar in Pennsylvania and got three people.
[05:48.920 --> 05:56.200]  Yes, so maybe there's a way like a business to business solution where we could get sponsors
[05:56.200 --> 06:01.360]  for the network and they would have their 60 second ad but then it would also be somehow
[06:01.360 --> 06:06.000]  promoted and advertised through your company so that my sponsors wouldn't actually pay
[06:06.000 --> 06:11.520]  me until they get customers through your system or something like that.
[06:11.520 --> 06:19.080]  Well, there's a way where they could advertise with us with no money out of their pocket.
[06:19.080 --> 06:25.080]  We can increase, on 24 years that this company has been in business, anybody that signed
[06:25.080 --> 06:32.840]  up for this unique form of paying for your media placement, nothing's free, okay?
[06:32.840 --> 06:38.800]  But because of the way it's done, on average, the companies will see an increase of sales
[06:38.800 --> 06:45.160]  between 100 and 120% year over year.
[06:45.160 --> 06:50.260]  So if you have 100 customers a year later, you'll probably have 200 customers, maybe
[06:50.260 --> 06:54.360]  a little more, maybe a little less but that's an average.
[06:54.360 --> 06:58.560]  Well, I could use that, I just launched a product.
[06:58.560 --> 07:02.720]  Everybody can use that but here's where this gets fascinating, okay?
[07:02.720 --> 07:08.000]  Your existing advertising people could advertise with us.
[07:08.000 --> 07:13.640]  We put you, Deborah, and your radio show on the reward system.
[07:13.640 --> 07:21.320]  Now every single time one of these certificates is redeemed, our company, as you being a sponsor,
[07:21.320 --> 07:29.240]  will pay you a couple of bucks, like $5 a time for a referral fee.
[07:29.240 --> 07:30.920]  Yay.
[07:30.920 --> 07:36.440]  You would get more money flowing into your radio station than you do now under the current
[07:36.440 --> 07:37.840]  system.
[07:37.840 --> 07:43.020]  The people doing the advertising through you aren't going to take a dime out of their pocket
[07:43.020 --> 07:47.740]  up front until we send them a client, period.
[07:47.740 --> 07:54.280]  Only then does some of the ad money come out of their pocket, basically to help the consumer
[07:54.280 --> 07:59.200]  and then because of the way we do stuff, you would actually get a referral for it.
[07:59.200 --> 08:07.920]  So you win, the people doing the advertising win, the company wins, and the consumer wins.
[08:07.920 --> 08:13.680]  If there was a business-to-business solution, there's ways that... I don't want to get
[08:13.680 --> 08:18.600]  off on this because it's a little more complicated, I'm not as familiar with it, and I don't want
[08:18.600 --> 08:22.960]  to take the chance of getting it wrong in case a whole bunch of people are listening
[08:22.960 --> 08:25.040]  to it.
[08:25.040 --> 08:31.480]  But again, going back, it's like I don't mind plugging myself a little bit, but the concept
[08:31.480 --> 08:39.520]  here is there are solutions, and out of all the other stuff I've talked about, when I
[08:39.520 --> 08:46.080]  saw this, my eyes popped open, my jaw dropped, and it was like, finally, I see something
[08:46.080 --> 08:48.360]  that truly works.
[08:48.360 --> 08:50.480]  This makes sense.
[08:50.480 --> 08:58.240]  Any business-to-business trade done through the advertising platform, well, if two parties
[08:58.240 --> 09:03.840]  do a trade to each other for the same basic cost of what would have been involved for
[09:03.840 --> 09:10.480]  that fraction in advertising expense anyway, and they're doing it between each other, and
[09:10.480 --> 09:16.920]  it's all reported, and it's actually accounted for, if it was submitted on... I'm not an
[09:16.920 --> 09:21.360]  expert, and I don't want anybody to take what I'm going to say is financial advice or tax
[09:21.360 --> 09:28.040]  advice, but as long as it's accounted for properly, there is not a tax liability that
[09:28.040 --> 09:29.040]  I am aware of.
[09:29.040 --> 09:30.040]  That's even better.
[09:30.040 --> 09:31.040]  Right?
[09:31.040 --> 09:38.200]  Well, if I didn't have to pay a big chunk of tax because I never used a coupon as a medium
[09:38.200 --> 09:46.640]  of exchange to just a direct trade or barter, well, in my particular life, I would be saving
[09:46.640 --> 09:50.080]  like 35% right there.
[09:50.080 --> 09:51.880]  Wonderful.
[09:51.880 --> 09:59.840]  Now, this really fascinates me, and I don't want to not pay, because I could just imagine,
[09:59.840 --> 10:04.200]  maybe not on this call, but a handful or a lot of people out in the world going, oh my
[10:04.200 --> 10:06.820]  God, that's evil.
[10:06.820 --> 10:08.400]  You need to pay your fair share.
[10:08.400 --> 10:10.280]  I sure do.
[10:10.280 --> 10:16.440]  If I use your system, I should have to pay your bill.
[10:16.440 --> 10:23.120]  If I don't use your system, I haven't, under your rules, owe you anything.
[10:23.120 --> 10:25.520]  That's right.
[10:25.520 --> 10:30.440]  You know, like give unto Caesar what is his?
[10:30.440 --> 10:35.680]  Absolutely, unquestionably, why would you do any other way?
[10:35.680 --> 10:43.040]  You're just opening up a can of worms you literally cannot afford.
[10:43.040 --> 10:48.000]  But if you can do it above board and honest and not have to play legal games and not have
[10:48.000 --> 10:53.220]  to play accounting tricks, and unlike some of our major banks that stole all the country's
[10:53.220 --> 11:01.000]  money anyway, you don't have a hundred offshore entities and special investment vehicles and
[11:01.000 --> 11:07.040]  anything that would get any of us thrown in jail for the rest of our natural lives, nothing
[11:07.040 --> 11:08.040]  like that.
[11:08.040 --> 11:16.040]  It's straight, simple, out in the open, on top of the table, inflorescent red, and out
[11:16.040 --> 11:21.280]  there for everybody to see that it's an open and honest trade, no funny business.
[11:21.280 --> 11:26.960]  The fact that all of this stuff runs through the fourth largest merchant processing system
[11:26.960 --> 11:34.560]  in the world is just further evidence in my book that there's accountability, trackability
[11:34.560 --> 11:38.120]  and reality to doing it.
[11:38.120 --> 11:42.000]  Really, really, really cool stuff.
[11:42.000 --> 11:44.040]  Sounds like a really good idea.
[11:44.040 --> 11:48.520]  And Randy, you had some questions for Steve about this because of your new product as
[11:48.520 --> 11:49.520]  well, right?
[11:49.520 --> 11:53.920]  Now, real quick, Randy, before you go, Debra, before I get on today, did you know I was
[11:53.920 --> 11:54.920]  going to do that?
[11:54.920 --> 11:56.760]  No, I did not.
[11:56.760 --> 11:57.760]  Are you okay with it?
[11:57.760 --> 11:58.760]  Of course.
[11:58.760 --> 11:59.760]  Okay.
[11:59.760 --> 12:03.240]  We all need to, you know, we need to have solutions here.
[12:03.240 --> 12:04.960]  We need to offer solutions to other people.
[12:04.960 --> 12:07.400]  This is good stuff.
[12:07.400 --> 12:13.640]  We all need to help each other out, and we all should be able to feed ourselves from
[12:13.640 --> 12:15.000]  helping other people.
[12:15.000 --> 12:16.000]  That's what it's all about.
[12:16.000 --> 12:17.000]  Yeah.
[12:17.000 --> 12:21.160]  And it's the closest thing to an even deal I've ever seen.
[12:21.160 --> 12:22.160]  I love it.
[12:22.160 --> 12:23.640]  Yeah, I do, too.
[12:23.640 --> 12:31.560]  That's why my heart was always telling me that the system is going to break, irreparably.
[12:31.560 --> 12:39.520]  And someday, my analytical services would have no real-world value for a short to medium
[12:39.520 --> 12:41.360]  to possibly a long time.
[12:41.360 --> 12:46.000]  Now, I've always had my eye out for what else am I going to do?
[12:46.000 --> 12:49.040]  Debra, you know I have three kids.
[12:49.040 --> 12:51.480]  One of them is five months old.
[12:51.480 --> 12:53.760]  I need to be able to provide for my children.
[12:53.760 --> 12:56.840]  I need to be able to provide for my wife.
[12:56.840 --> 12:58.640]  Right.
[12:58.640 --> 13:04.000]  And we want to help other people while we're taking care of the responsibilities of taking
[13:04.000 --> 13:05.000]  care of our families.
[13:05.000 --> 13:06.000]  Right.
[13:06.000 --> 13:07.000]  Right.
[13:07.000 --> 13:12.000]  And Randy right now, he's got something going on to help people, to keep people from getting
[13:12.000 --> 13:14.280]  kicked out of their homes by the evil banksters.
[13:14.280 --> 13:18.600]  So Randy, why don't you talk about that a little bit and how maybe Steve could hook
[13:18.600 --> 13:19.600]  you up.
[13:19.600 --> 13:25.440]  Yeah, I would be interested in how I could get this to other people.
[13:25.440 --> 13:31.560]  This mortgage crisis is getting worse by the day.
[13:31.560 --> 13:38.320]  And I put together a program to help people put the lender in a position to where it's
[13:38.320 --> 13:45.760]  profitable for him to make a deal or to ease the pressure on the homeowner, because right
[13:45.760 --> 13:54.920]  now it's not in the banker's best interest to do a loan modification or in any way adjust
[13:54.920 --> 13:56.640]  the mortgage where they can pay it.
[13:56.640 --> 14:00.920]  They're better off if the person paying the mortgage is behind every month because they
[14:00.920 --> 14:04.800]  make 5% extra a month on the late payments.
[14:04.800 --> 14:10.360]  So we have put together a program to help with that and trying to find a way to get
[14:10.360 --> 14:14.680]  it to as many people as I can as quickly as I can.
[14:14.680 --> 14:20.760]  Well, I'll tell you what, Randy, and this would go for anybody else and I will not selfishly
[14:20.760 --> 14:25.540]  and shamelessly plug anything else I'm doing again.
[14:25.540 --> 14:29.680]  If you have a business and this makes sense to you or you just want to hear about it,
[14:29.680 --> 14:37.560]  send Debra an email in the subject line, put advertising, and I will get back in touch
[14:37.560 --> 14:42.040]  with you and I'll do the same because every single one of these conditions is the overall
[14:42.040 --> 14:44.280]  principle doesn't change at all.
[14:44.280 --> 14:46.380]  No money out of your pocket or cash flow.
[14:46.380 --> 14:48.740]  We run the ad.
[14:48.740 --> 14:54.160]  We take all the risk until we send you a customer and then the rates are the same if not a little
[14:54.160 --> 14:56.960]  better than you would have paid anyone.
[14:56.960 --> 14:58.680]  So it's risk free.
[14:58.680 --> 15:01.240]  But every situation is a little bit different.
[15:01.240 --> 15:06.000]  So I don't want to say, hey, Randy, this is exactly what I would do for you because somebody
[15:06.000 --> 15:09.520]  else might hear that and say, well, why can't you do that for me?
[15:09.520 --> 15:13.760]  Well, Randy's selling apples and you're selling oranges.
[15:13.760 --> 15:18.220]  They're close but they're not the same.
[15:18.220 --> 15:23.960]  So if you want more information on that, and Randy, that goes for you too.
[15:23.960 --> 15:29.920]  When Debra contacts me with anybody who's interested, you'll just be one of them.
[15:29.920 --> 15:32.160]  And I'll lay this out for you and make it real simple.
[15:32.160 --> 15:34.800]  Actually, it sounds like a big deal.
[15:34.800 --> 15:41.080]  It's a very simple, straightforward contract, a very simple, straightforward procedure,
[15:41.080 --> 15:47.680]  and you bind my hands would be a risk up front.
[15:47.680 --> 15:52.040]  And there's no way of getting around that on our side because we don't have to.
[15:52.040 --> 15:56.800]  The company that I work for has been doing it for 24 years.
[15:56.800 --> 16:02.800]  When I did my background homework on them, the only negative thing I found was from people
[16:02.800 --> 16:09.800]  who tried to join forces with him and he would not allow it because he didn't respect what
[16:09.800 --> 16:10.880]  they do.
[16:10.880 --> 16:15.560]  Our company will not advertise for pornography.
[16:15.560 --> 16:22.280]  Our company will not advertise for internet or other gambling and stuff.
[16:22.280 --> 16:26.080]  Anything that you couldn't bring in front of your church choir is off the table for
[16:26.080 --> 16:27.700]  us.
[16:27.700 --> 16:33.360]  So a lot of you guys have heard my voice before, no, I'm a religious man.
[16:33.360 --> 16:41.120]  Hearing that made me say, okay, I like what I see, not just that much more.
[16:41.120 --> 16:43.020]  All right, good deal.
[16:43.020 --> 16:48.640]  You contact me if you want more information on Steve's program, I'm certainly interested.
[16:48.640 --> 16:54.680]  And we're taking your calls now, 512-646-1984, Reuben from Texas, you're up next if you want
[16:54.680 --> 17:00.480]  to ask Steve questions or Randy or Eddie or myself.
[17:00.480 --> 17:04.560]  You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics?
[17:04.560 --> 17:07.760]  Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve?
[17:07.760 --> 17:08.760]  What?
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[18:00.280 --> 18:29.480]  All right, trust in God, my friends, call on His name.
[18:29.480 --> 18:35.560]  One of my favorite Three Shoes Posse songs, the band that I'm in, I co-write and produce.
[18:35.560 --> 18:38.880]  All right, we're going to Ruben now from Texas.
[18:38.880 --> 18:42.360]  We did have Todd and Todd dropped off the line.
[18:42.360 --> 18:44.840]  Todd, if you'd like to call back in, please feel free.
[18:44.840 --> 18:46.400]  All right, Ruben, thanks for calling in.
[18:46.400 --> 18:47.400]  What's on your mind tonight?
[18:47.400 --> 18:50.440]  Well, I am the same caller from yesterday.
[18:50.440 --> 18:54.760]  I was just following some other questions that I had on my traffic violation.
[18:54.760 --> 18:56.920]  Okay, go ahead, Ruben.
[18:56.920 --> 19:04.880]  If you all remember me yesterday, I had the section 545.155 for vehicle entering highway.
[19:04.880 --> 19:09.960]  Yes, we remember, the failure to yield right of way.
[19:09.960 --> 19:10.960]  All right.
[19:10.960 --> 19:13.000]  Randy, my question was kind of to you.
[19:13.000 --> 19:16.640]  You said that the citation might pertain to me.
[19:16.640 --> 19:22.520]  I was wondering if I wasn't entering a highway per se because the road that I was entering
[19:22.520 --> 19:24.880]  is a two-lane road.
[19:24.880 --> 19:27.160]  How would that particularly apply to you?
[19:27.160 --> 19:30.200]  It goes to a thoroughfare.
[19:30.200 --> 19:38.160]  If you entered a thoroughfare, you entered into the apparent jurisdiction of the transportation
[19:38.160 --> 19:40.720]  code.
[19:40.720 --> 19:50.640]  But if you didn't enter the thoroughfare while acting in commerce, you didn't enter into
[19:50.640 --> 19:54.960]  the jurisdiction of the transportation code.
[19:54.960 --> 19:56.440]  Because of keyword operator?
[19:56.440 --> 19:57.440]  Operator.
[19:57.440 --> 20:00.000]  Well, that's just one of them, yes.
[20:00.000 --> 20:03.800]  But the only problem you're going to face is if you're not familiar with how to argue
[20:03.800 --> 20:08.200]  that and what to present on it, it's not going to do you any good.
[20:08.200 --> 20:12.020]  Like I say, you're not going to win at the lowest level court anyway until we manage
[20:12.020 --> 20:19.800]  to start holding these judges accountable, which someone sent me an interesting document
[20:19.800 --> 20:21.600]  that I'm looking at.
[20:21.600 --> 20:27.800]  And what I'm looking at is turning that into a tort letter and sending it to the city council
[20:27.800 --> 20:34.600]  and to the mayor and letting them know that their municipal judge and their clerks and
[20:34.600 --> 20:42.040]  their city prosecutor are in direct violation of the Texas Constitution and state law in
[20:42.040 --> 20:44.400]  that order.
[20:44.400 --> 20:47.560]  And hopefully we'll be able to start seeing some turnaround on this.
[20:47.560 --> 20:50.120]  You're going into a municipal court, correct?
[20:50.120 --> 20:51.120]  Yes.
[20:51.120 --> 20:52.120]  Okay.
[20:52.120 --> 20:54.160]  Do you know who the prosecutor is yet?
[20:54.160 --> 20:55.160]  No.
[20:55.160 --> 20:57.600]  Well, you need to be finding out.
[20:57.600 --> 21:02.240]  What do you know so far other than the fact you got the ticket?
[21:02.240 --> 21:06.480]  So far, well, I just have to appear in court again because they gave me a 30-day-
[21:06.480 --> 21:07.480]  Well, no, wait a minute.
[21:07.480 --> 21:09.280]  You have to appear in court again.
[21:09.280 --> 21:10.280]  Right.
[21:10.280 --> 21:13.640]  When was the, who was there the first time?
[21:13.640 --> 21:17.160]  It was an attorney.
[21:17.160 --> 21:18.160]  I forget his name.
[21:18.160 --> 21:21.000]  You went to court to meet with the prosecutor?
[21:21.000 --> 21:22.000]  Right.
[21:22.000 --> 21:24.680]  And you don't know who the prosecutor is?
[21:24.680 --> 21:27.320]  Well, I believe his name is Torres.
[21:27.320 --> 21:30.040]  He's the city of Alice attorney.
[21:30.040 --> 21:31.040]  Okay.
[21:31.040 --> 21:33.840]  Well, that was my first question.
[21:33.840 --> 21:35.760]  Is this the city attorney?
[21:35.760 --> 21:36.760]  Yes.
[21:36.760 --> 21:37.760]  Okay.
[21:37.760 --> 21:41.000]  If this is the city attorney, there's something you can do about that.
[21:41.000 --> 21:42.960]  I have a motion for that purpose.
[21:42.960 --> 21:46.320]  If you will send me an email, I will tell you what to do about it.
[21:46.320 --> 21:47.320]  Okay.
[21:47.320 --> 21:48.320]  All right.
[21:48.320 --> 21:49.320]  Okay.
[21:49.320 --> 21:50.320]  Randy, you sound like you got a comment.
[21:50.320 --> 21:51.320]  I heard you inhale.
[21:51.320 --> 21:52.320]  No, no.
[21:52.320 --> 21:56.080]  I was just liking the idea.
[21:56.080 --> 22:03.400]  The more I think about asking the prosecutor for his license to practice law, the more
[22:03.400 --> 22:05.920]  I get tickled with it.
[22:05.920 --> 22:07.520]  Yeah.
[22:07.520 --> 22:11.880]  But yeah, there's going to be several things that you're going to want to do.
[22:11.880 --> 22:16.440]  But now, the first thing is, is now we have a criminal complaint against the judge for
[22:16.440 --> 22:22.240]  abuse of process because they summoned you to court for a reason that the law does not
[22:22.240 --> 22:25.600]  give them authority to summon you for.
[22:25.600 --> 22:28.400]  There's a specific list of things in the Code of Criminal Procedure.
[22:28.400 --> 22:30.440]  What article is it, Randy?
[22:30.440 --> 22:31.440]  2801.
[22:31.440 --> 22:33.440]  Go read that.
[22:33.440 --> 22:38.440]  Those are the only things for which you can be summoned into court.
[22:38.440 --> 22:42.440]  Meeting with the prosecutor is not on the list.
[22:42.440 --> 22:46.000]  That is an illegal abuse of process.
[22:46.000 --> 22:48.920]  Technically there are two things.
[22:48.920 --> 22:54.440]  One is for an arraignment if the court has authority to hold an arraignment, and all
[22:54.440 --> 23:01.240]  of the rest, there are about nine more, all have to do with motion hearings of one type
[23:01.240 --> 23:03.680]  or another.
[23:03.680 --> 23:08.360]  Meeting with the prosecuting attorney, I once told a judge, I objected to that, and said,
[23:08.360 --> 23:12.200]  if the prosecutor wants to meet with me, he can call and set an appointment just like
[23:12.200 --> 23:13.200]  everybody else.
[23:13.200 --> 23:14.200]  Yeah, that's right.
[23:14.200 --> 23:15.200]  All right.
[23:15.200 --> 23:16.200]  Thank you.
[23:16.200 --> 23:17.200]  I thank you all for the information.
[23:17.200 --> 23:18.200]  I do hope you all get syndicated there.
[23:18.200 --> 23:19.200]  All right.
[23:19.200 --> 23:20.200]  Thanks, Ruben.
[23:20.200 --> 23:21.200]  Thanks, Ruben.
[23:21.200 --> 23:22.200]  I support you all.
[23:22.200 --> 23:23.200]  Thank you.
[23:23.200 --> 23:24.200]  Thank you all very much.
[23:24.200 --> 23:25.200]  Yeah, definitely.
[23:25.200 --> 23:26.200]  This is a prevailing mindset.
[23:26.200 --> 23:29.200]  People don't understand that they can't be summoned to meet with the prosecutor.
[23:29.200 --> 23:39.040]  Because the courts try to do that all the time, they push the envelopes on that all
[23:39.040 --> 23:40.040]  the time.
[23:40.040 --> 23:47.680]  People, this is what we fought a revolutionary war over, our ancestors, is because of stuff
[23:47.680 --> 23:48.680]  like that.
[23:48.680 --> 23:49.680]  All right.
[23:49.680 --> 23:54.360]  We got to start changing the way we think about these things so that when we hear about
[23:54.360 --> 23:58.160]  things like this, it immediately hits us, wait a minute.
[23:58.160 --> 24:01.120]  That doesn't sound right to me.
[24:01.120 --> 24:05.760]  That's probably not correct according to law.
[24:05.760 --> 24:11.200]  And then when you go and look it up, sure enough, you'll find out that that is not lawful.
[24:11.200 --> 24:14.400]  So okay, we're going now to Todd in Ohio.
[24:14.400 --> 24:16.240]  Todd, thanks for calling in.
[24:16.240 --> 24:19.120]  You have a question for Steve or Randy or Eddie or myself?
[24:19.120 --> 24:20.120]  Hey, how you doing?
[24:20.120 --> 24:22.360]  I just wanted to give you guys a call back.
[24:22.360 --> 24:25.440]  I called I think last week or the week before.
[24:25.440 --> 24:28.840]  I'm the guy that got the, well, tons of people probably call, but I'm the guy that got the
[24:28.840 --> 24:33.240]  traffic ticket with the wrong date on it.
[24:33.240 --> 24:37.960]  And it had the date of a holiday.
[24:37.960 --> 24:41.840]  And I went in there with two witnesses and sure enough, the magistrate wasn't there.
[24:41.840 --> 24:46.480]  Oh, the date, yeah, it was supposed to appear before the magistrate, yeah, I remember that.
[24:46.480 --> 24:47.480]  Yeah.
[24:47.480 --> 24:51.280]  And sure enough, I went back to the records office and I looked at the ticket and sure
[24:51.280 --> 24:56.360]  enough, the, I believe the police officer changed the five to a six and didn't properly
[24:56.360 --> 24:57.360]  notify me.
[24:57.360 --> 25:00.760]  Oh, he changed it on his document and not yours?
[25:00.760 --> 25:03.120]  He changed it on a document that was filed with the court.
[25:03.120 --> 25:07.680]  Wait, after it was filed with the court, he changed it?
[25:07.680 --> 25:13.800]  No, after he issued the ticket, he changed the original but not the copy that I have.
[25:13.800 --> 25:15.560]  That's tampering with the government document.
[25:15.560 --> 25:16.560]  That's a felony in text.
[25:16.560 --> 25:18.440]  Yeah, really, but this is Ohio.
[25:18.440 --> 25:20.720]  Oh, that's right, it's Ohio.
[25:20.720 --> 25:24.680]  I've read somewhere that it's a misdemeanor five in Ohio, tampering with records, but
[25:24.680 --> 25:25.680]  this is evidence.
[25:25.680 --> 25:27.720]  So I guess I have to research that as something different.
[25:27.720 --> 25:32.240]  Well, no, technically, this is not evidence, it's a summons.
[25:32.240 --> 25:34.920]  So it's tampering with a government document.
[25:34.920 --> 25:35.920]  Okay.
[25:35.920 --> 25:42.120]  He changed something on a government document.
[25:42.120 --> 25:48.000]  He gave you a copy that had one piece of information on it and he changed it on the one he had
[25:48.000 --> 25:55.480]  handed to the court for the purpose of causing you to come on the wrong day and you miss
[25:55.480 --> 25:59.480]  your trial date so they could perform a malicious prosecution.
[25:59.480 --> 26:01.880]  It's got to be a felony in Ohio.
[26:01.880 --> 26:05.920]  See, here's what I do when they pull something like that.
[26:05.920 --> 26:13.000]  Basically, I go in and if the judge is not present, I go to the court clerk and I have
[26:13.000 --> 26:20.200]  my recorder in my hand and I file a letter with them that simply states, I appeared on
[26:20.200 --> 26:23.440]  such and such date at such and such time.
[26:23.440 --> 26:29.080]  I appeared in response to this unlawful citation, blah, blah, blah.
[26:29.080 --> 26:33.280]  And I get them to stamp their copy and I get it to stamp my copy.
[26:33.280 --> 26:39.080]  But the other paragraph in that letter states, if this court has any further communications
[26:39.080 --> 26:46.040]  or necessity of my presence, you are required to issue a written summons for me to appear.
[26:46.040 --> 26:47.040]  Okay.
[26:47.040 --> 26:50.080]  Do you want me to tell you what happened since then?
[26:50.080 --> 26:51.080]  Yes.
[26:51.080 --> 26:52.080]  Okay.
[26:52.080 --> 26:55.280]  What I did is I probably did the wrong thing.
[26:55.280 --> 27:04.960]  I'm kind of new at this, but I filed a motion to dismiss due to the fact that I showed up
[27:04.960 --> 27:05.960]  and there was no one there.
[27:05.960 --> 27:13.400]  So I figured that I, well, one second, I had to plug in.
[27:13.400 --> 27:20.240]  So I filed a motion to dismiss and what happened now is they filed a motion hearing for me
[27:20.240 --> 27:23.600]  for this coming Tuesday.
[27:23.600 --> 27:30.000]  And in the motion hearing, this is going to be my first hearing on anything, what I was
[27:30.000 --> 27:33.680]  thinking about doing is filing a criminal complaint against the police officer during
[27:33.680 --> 27:36.360]  the motion hearing.
[27:36.360 --> 27:38.880]  Okay.
[27:38.880 --> 27:39.880]  Based on?
[27:39.880 --> 27:46.440]  Based on the fact that I have documented proof that he changed the record and led me.
[27:46.440 --> 27:47.840]  I think that's great.
[27:47.840 --> 27:48.840]  Yeah.
[27:48.840 --> 27:52.200]  Bring two complaints with you.
[27:52.200 --> 27:58.960]  One, take it to a notary, sign it before the notary and have them verified.
[27:58.960 --> 28:04.520]  Bring that one and bring one that's not signed to notarize and ask the court to verify the
[28:04.520 --> 28:05.520]  complaint.
[28:05.520 --> 28:12.560]  And when the court refuses, oh, well in that case, here's one that is verified and that
[28:12.560 --> 28:17.320]  invokes his duty as a magistrate and he'll refuse to hear it.
[28:17.320 --> 28:22.800]  And if you really want to have fun, go get the bailiff before you do that and make sure
[28:22.800 --> 28:31.040]  you got a bailiff in the courtroom and ask the bailiff to arrest the judge.
[28:31.040 --> 28:33.440]  You'll be surprised when you do that.
[28:33.440 --> 28:34.440]  Okay.
[28:34.440 --> 28:37.640]  Not unpleasantly like it sounds though.
[28:37.640 --> 28:38.640]  Okay.
[28:38.640 --> 28:39.640]  Right.
[28:39.640 --> 28:43.200]  The judge is set there and keep his mouth shut and the bailiff will refuse to arrest
[28:43.200 --> 28:44.200]  the judge.
[28:44.200 --> 28:47.840]  And I generally tell them, well, Bubba, life is filled with little decisions.
[28:47.840 --> 28:48.840]  We all get to make some.
[28:48.840 --> 28:54.960]  Are you going to do your job or are you going to shield this judge from prosecution?
[28:54.960 --> 29:02.360]  And I tell them, you know, I can't sue that judge for what he's doing, but I can sue you.
[29:02.360 --> 29:05.360]  You probably won't do that the first time in, it may take a couple of times.
[29:05.360 --> 29:06.360]  Okay.
[29:06.360 --> 29:11.800]  I have to really kick you off first before you get to where you'd be willing to do that.
[29:11.800 --> 29:15.840]  But at least when you leave the courtroom, you should have another complaint against
[29:15.840 --> 29:19.120]  the judge for misfeasance in office.
[29:19.120 --> 29:20.880]  Okay.
[29:20.880 --> 29:27.320]  And give that to the bailiff who observed the judge committing the crime.
[29:27.320 --> 29:29.600]  It really gets their attention.
[29:29.600 --> 29:33.880]  So I can do all of this during a motion hearing, correct?
[29:33.880 --> 29:34.880]  Yes.
[29:34.880 --> 29:35.880]  Okay.
[29:35.880 --> 29:40.120]  When we come back, I'll give you briefly how to get that done.
[29:40.120 --> 29:41.120]  Okay.
[29:41.120 --> 29:42.120]  Todd.
[29:42.120 --> 29:43.120]  Yeah, just stay on the line, Todd.
[29:43.120 --> 29:48.920]  We've also got Jeff from Michigan and Bad Bob from Austin.
[29:48.920 --> 29:53.160]  You guys are up next after Todd.
[29:53.160 --> 29:56.640]  And callers remember we still do have Steve with us, so if you have any questions about
[29:56.640 --> 30:00.400]  Steve and his services or anything else, give us a call.
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[30:59.720 --> 31:26.720]  Yeah, yeah, oh, mm-hmm, yeah, I want, oh, I want, oh, I want, oh, I want, oh, I want,
[31:26.720 --> 31:51.040]  oh, I want, oh, I want, oh, I want, I won't let you pull the wool over my eyes.
[31:51.040 --> 32:01.040]  words to the wise stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes
[32:21.040 --> 32:39.040]  an orange is an orange and will never be an apple
[32:39.040 --> 32:53.040]  this image is a no, it is no tough concept to crack, it's just too much to bear, I won't wear your evil shirt
[33:09.040 --> 33:17.040]  we're with Todd, go ahead Randy, you were going to explain to Todd about the procedures you were discussing before we went to break
[33:17.040 --> 33:23.040]  the magistrate and all that, pushbacking him with the criminal charges and stuff like that
[33:23.040 --> 33:29.040]  in order to introduce something to the court, you have to show it to him first, like you say
[33:29.040 --> 33:33.040]  your honor I have a document I would like to present to the court
[33:33.040 --> 33:41.040]  and if it's the criminal complaint the prosecutor will object because he hasn't seen it
[33:41.040 --> 33:49.040]  and you will tell the judge well with all due respect your honor this is none of the prosecutor's business quite yet
[33:49.040 --> 33:54.040]  and they'll say huh, they won't know what you're talking about
[33:54.040 --> 34:03.040]  and then ask may I approach and generally they'll either tell you to approach and show you the document or he'll have the bailiff come and get it
[34:03.040 --> 34:09.040]  in a municipal court they'll just generally tell you to approach and you hand him the criminal complaint
[34:09.040 --> 34:16.040]  and he'll say well you need to take that to the police department, no
[34:16.040 --> 34:22.040]  I need to take that to some magistrate, there's nothing in law that directs a criminal complaint to a police department
[34:22.040 --> 34:28.040]  everything in law directs a criminal complaint to some magistrate
[34:28.040 --> 34:34.040]  and you have in your hand a verified criminal affidavit that I have invoked your duty as a magistrate
[34:34.040 --> 34:38.040]  and they'll refuse to perform their duty
[34:38.040 --> 34:43.040]  now generally I don't argue with the judge in court
[34:43.040 --> 34:47.040]  he finds out later that I set him up
[34:47.040 --> 34:52.040]  because you know I don't tell him well this is your job and you're supposed to do this and you're supposed to do that
[34:52.040 --> 34:55.040]  that always gets you in an argument with the judge
[34:55.040 --> 35:01.040]  so I say okay your call and then when I leave the courtroom
[35:01.040 --> 35:06.040]  the first certified police officer I see I want him to go in there and arrest the judge
[35:06.040 --> 35:14.040]  and he's going to refuse and you tell him come on take your chicken suit off, go in there and do your job
[35:14.040 --> 35:19.040]  and the first thing that's going to happen when you walk away is he's going to run into the judge
[35:19.040 --> 35:22.040]  and let the judge know you're trying to get him arrested
[35:22.040 --> 35:27.040]  then you take a complaint against the judge to the prosecutor
[35:27.040 --> 35:34.040]  and I generally if I'm after a jurisdiction I set them all up that way
[35:34.040 --> 35:42.040]  I get them to refuse to follow a law now you can move to disqualify the judge
[35:42.040 --> 35:44.040]  Okay
[35:44.040 --> 35:49.040]  Okay does that sound like that answers your question Todd?
[35:49.040 --> 35:53.040]  It sounds like it gives me a good basis to do more research on Ohio law
[35:53.040 --> 35:57.040]  what Randy's talking about sounds awesome
[35:57.040 --> 36:00.040]  I'm definitely going to put this on MP3 and listen and...
[36:00.040 --> 36:06.040]  Well there's archives, the archives will be posted later this evening
[36:06.040 --> 36:15.040]  Okay this comes out of the federal requirement, this comes out of a requirement that's been in law since 1216
[36:15.040 --> 36:24.040]  that magistrates are in place because it was not intended that the police officer hold the key to the jailhouse door
[36:24.040 --> 36:27.040]  Again this was one of the things that we fought a revolutionary war over
[36:27.040 --> 36:35.040]  this has been in place since 1215 the Magna Carta this is why the barons brought King John down to the River Thames
[36:35.040 --> 36:39.040]  and nearly beheaded him because of this exact issue right here
[36:39.040 --> 36:45.040]  and because of issues like the court summoning an accused to speak to the prosecutor
[36:45.040 --> 36:47.040]  same kind of thing
[36:47.040 --> 36:55.040]  I'll give you a quick update just in case the credit card issue it was dismissed by the magistrate
[36:55.040 --> 36:57.040]  so that was the other case I was working on
[36:57.040 --> 36:59.040]  Yay
[36:59.040 --> 37:01.040]  It's in your favor right?
[37:01.040 --> 37:06.040]  There was a lawsuit being filed against me by a credit card company
[37:06.040 --> 37:11.040]  supposedly represented by a lawyer but possibly that they have been purchased by the lawyer
[37:11.040 --> 37:13.040]  So you won that one
[37:13.040 --> 37:16.040]  Was this using the Mike Mears method?
[37:16.040 --> 37:23.040]  It was using a motion for a more definite statement with a connection to asking for a signature on the application
[37:23.040 --> 37:25.040]  Good for you, good for you Todd
[37:25.040 --> 37:28.040]  They didn't fulfill it in the 45 days so bam there it was
[37:28.040 --> 37:32.040]  Summary judgment, good deal, okay wonderful Todd
[37:32.040 --> 37:38.040]  Alright thanks very much for your help and Randy I'll email you if I have any further questions is that okay?
[37:38.040 --> 37:39.040]  Yes it is
[37:39.040 --> 37:41.040]  Alright thanks a lot
[37:41.040 --> 37:43.040]  Alright thanks for calling
[37:43.040 --> 37:46.040]  Okay we're going to go now to Jeff in Michigan
[37:46.040 --> 37:51.040]  Okay Jeff thanks for calling in what is your question or comment for Steve or us?
[37:51.040 --> 37:57.040]  How are you doing guys? I guess for Eddie or Randy or anybody
[37:57.040 --> 38:03.040]  I just want to know where you think I should take my next step
[38:03.040 --> 38:12.040]  I just had a hearing last week for no defective tail light and no insurance
[38:12.040 --> 38:19.040]  It's a law school home project that I got last April and I've been fighting it ever since
[38:19.040 --> 38:30.040]  I put in the day after getting the ticket, I put in an affidavit attesting to defects on the instrument
[38:30.040 --> 38:32.040]  and challenging jurisdiction and stuff like that
[38:32.040 --> 38:35.040]  Nobody responded, they gave me a default judgment
[38:35.040 --> 38:42.040]  So all year I've been trying to get a vacated judgment or vacate to avoid judgment
[38:42.040 --> 38:49.040]  Now I'm back to square one at the district court
[38:49.040 --> 38:55.040]  Wait, you filed an unanswered challenge to the jurisdiction?
[38:55.040 --> 38:57.040]  What state are you in by the way?
[38:57.040 --> 39:00.040]  I'm in Michigan
[39:00.040 --> 39:05.040]  Did they not respond to the challenge to the jurisdiction?
[39:05.040 --> 39:08.040]  No they did not, they just gave me a default judge
[39:08.040 --> 39:10.040]  Files sued against the judge?
[39:10.040 --> 39:16.040]  Wait a minute, if they gave you a default judgment, why are you still in court?
[39:16.040 --> 39:21.040]  Because I kept trying to go to a higher court and get a vacate
[39:21.040 --> 39:25.040]  Wait a minute, was the default judgment against you?
[39:25.040 --> 39:27.040]  Yeah, it was the default judgment against me
[39:27.040 --> 39:32.040]  So when I went to pay the fines to get the fines taken care of because this wasn't going away
[39:32.040 --> 39:39.040]  I put them into a bond and they granted me a motion, a new hearing, a motion to set aside and dismiss
[39:39.040 --> 39:47.040]  So at the new hearing I brought in my motion to dismiss, set aside and vacate
[39:47.040 --> 39:56.040]  And explained why since they did not respond, they did not respond to my challenge to the jurisdiction
[39:56.040 --> 40:00.040]  Which was a timely challenge to the jurisdiction, they did not respond to give me a default judgment instead
[40:00.040 --> 40:02.040]  That the judgment is void
[40:02.040 --> 40:10.040]  And at the hearing the judge granted my motion to set them aside, to set aside the default judgment
[40:10.040 --> 40:14.040]  And somehow he trapped me into reopening the case
[40:14.040 --> 40:18.040]  I wasn't prepared for that argument
[40:18.040 --> 40:21.040]  Wait a minute, I'm kind of lost
[40:21.040 --> 40:30.040]  He agreed and signed an order for you to quash the summary judgment against you
[40:30.040 --> 40:34.040]  Yes, what they gave you is a summary judgment, not a default judgment, right?
[40:34.040 --> 40:40.040]  No, it was a default judgment
[40:40.040 --> 40:46.040]  Randy, am I incorrect in thinking that a default judgment is only applicable to the defense?
[40:46.040 --> 40:49.040]  No, you can get default judgment in either direction
[40:49.040 --> 40:52.040]  It's a summary judgment on the plaintiff, is it not?
[40:52.040 --> 40:58.040]  No, it depends, no, no, summary judgment is where there is no controversy
[40:58.040 --> 40:59.040]  Yeah?
[40:59.040 --> 41:01.040]  Where everybody agrees on the facts
[41:01.040 --> 41:02.040]  Right
[41:02.040 --> 41:07.040]  Default judgment is where somebody doesn't respond the way they're supposed to
[41:07.040 --> 41:09.040]  And so you get a judgment as a matter of law
[41:09.040 --> 41:17.040]  Yeah, this sounds, Randy, if you'll note, this sounds exactly like a case that you and I are working on right now
[41:17.040 --> 41:22.040]  Regarding somebody that the federal government has a default judgment against right now
[41:22.040 --> 41:26.040]  Whose challenge to jurisdiction was never answered, sound familiar?
[41:26.040 --> 41:35.040]  Yes, it does, and we go back, that's why I was asking about the challenge to jurisdiction
[41:35.040 --> 41:40.040]  We always go back to that, they don't get anywhere else until they answer subject matter jurisdiction
[41:40.040 --> 41:44.040]  If you have a challenge to subject matter jurisdiction that wasn't answered
[41:44.040 --> 41:49.040]  You file criminal charges against a judge for impersonating a judicial officer
[41:49.040 --> 41:53.040]  He doesn't have jurisdiction
[41:53.040 --> 41:56.040]  Well, what would he do in his case in addition to that?
[41:56.040 --> 41:58.040]  Disqualify the judge
[41:58.040 --> 41:59.040]  Okay, that's what I wanted to know
[41:59.040 --> 42:04.040]  They got it reopened, while it was there he's like, do you understand these rights?
[42:04.040 --> 42:08.040]  I'm like, no, I don't understand, you just granted my motion
[42:08.040 --> 42:12.040]  He says, well, I'm going to decide against you if you don't make a plea
[42:12.040 --> 42:17.040]  And, you know, forced me to raise my hand and swear in plea and go through the whole motions of the hearing
[42:17.040 --> 42:26.040]  I got one of them beat, I got the tail light beat, but I want to go back after the no insurance charge again somehow
[42:26.040 --> 42:30.040]  Okay, wait a minute, that's a collateral charge
[42:30.040 --> 42:37.040]  If the officer's probable cause was a tail light and it was an invalid probable cause
[42:37.040 --> 42:44.040]  Then anything that comes circumstantial to that is questionable
[42:44.040 --> 42:47.040]  Fruit of the poison tree
[42:47.040 --> 42:51.040]  He can't, if the tail light was the entire reason he pulled you over
[42:51.040 --> 42:55.040]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, we're getting lost in merits
[42:55.040 --> 43:01.040]  Subject matter jurisdiction, sue the judge, he has no jurisdiction until it's proven
[43:01.040 --> 43:07.040]  Once jurisdiction is challenged, it must be proven, it may not be presumed
[43:07.040 --> 43:15.040]  If he fails to prove up jurisdiction, even if he would have otherwise had it, he loses that jurisdiction
[43:15.040 --> 43:22.040]  Sue the judge personally, it's the only time you can sue the judge, no subject matter jurisdiction
[43:22.040 --> 43:28.040]  And once he's sued personally, he has an interest in the case, he's history
[43:28.040 --> 43:34.040]  Move to disqualify him and move to avoid all judgments, that'll make him nuts
[43:34.040 --> 43:38.040]  It's a can of worms
[43:38.040 --> 43:41.040]  Well it's great fun, you're treating it as a
[43:41.040 --> 43:45.040]  Okay Jeff, do you need to stay on the line, do we need to discuss this more?
[43:45.040 --> 43:47.040]  Maybe another time, thanks
[43:47.040 --> 43:53.040]  Okay, alright, alright, we're going to go to Bad Bob in Austin when we get back
[43:53.040 --> 44:00.040]  And then Dan
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[45:22.040 --> 45:29.040]  Yes, always I must be careful what I'm wishing for
[45:29.040 --> 45:34.040]  When I'm hungry I like to know just what I'm fishing for
[45:34.040 --> 45:40.040]  I ain't asking for much, I ain't trying to be no glutton
[45:40.040 --> 45:46.040]  I'm just here making my living pushing buttons
[45:46.040 --> 45:51.040]  I give my message out to anyone in shot and distance
[45:51.040 --> 45:57.040]  Vote for bravery and against slavery, show resistance
[45:57.040 --> 46:02.040]  First I'm crawling, then I'm walking, then I start strutting
[46:02.040 --> 46:05.040]  I'm just so glad to make my living
[46:05.040 --> 46:09.040]  Alright, just so glad to make our living pushing buttons
[46:09.040 --> 46:12.040]  Here at the computer, pushing the buttons
[46:12.040 --> 46:18.040]  To keep us on the air, to get the message of truth out to all of y'all
[46:18.040 --> 46:20.040]  We're doing this for y'all
[46:20.040 --> 46:26.040]  Alright, and Steve is going to discuss some of his remedies that he's found useful in the past in just a moment
[46:26.040 --> 46:30.040]  But for now we're going to go to Bad Bob in Austin
[46:30.040 --> 46:33.040]  Bad Bob, what is on your mind tonight?
[46:33.040 --> 46:38.040]  Hi, yeah it's funny, I started laughing because you talked about pushing buttons
[46:38.040 --> 46:42.040]  I put it in a nutshell, after 25 years of marriage
[46:42.040 --> 46:48.040]  My wife decided the mother-daughter relationship was the most important above the marriage
[46:48.040 --> 46:54.040]  So she put in the plan to push my buttons and get me mad as hell
[46:54.040 --> 46:57.040]  I had wiped off everything off the counter in the kitchen
[46:57.040 --> 47:01.040]  Made a pretty good mess, it was about 1130th night
[47:01.040 --> 47:06.040]  October the 1st last year
[47:06.040 --> 47:10.040]  And all of a sudden I was out there sober
[47:10.040 --> 47:13.040]  And here comes five cop cars just flaring up there
[47:13.040 --> 47:16.040]  And asking me how I was doing, what's going on
[47:16.040 --> 47:20.040]  And they went to talk to my wife because my wife was the one that called 911
[47:20.040 --> 47:26.040]  Well, she told them that she was concerned about her safety
[47:26.040 --> 47:29.040]  And they showed them what a mess that I made
[47:29.040 --> 47:36.040]  And that's five years because of this problem of my wife having that
[47:36.040 --> 47:42.040]  She, with her mom, was very special and she wanted to do that with her daughter
[47:42.040 --> 47:45.040]  Okay, we don't want to get into all the family stuff
[47:45.040 --> 47:49.040]  What is the question? What happened as a result of that?
[47:49.040 --> 47:51.040]  Did you get arrested?
[47:51.040 --> 47:53.040]  Well, what happened was she did
[47:53.040 --> 47:56.040]  Okay, I got arrested for a PI that night
[47:56.040 --> 47:58.040]  And so here's the reason why I said that
[47:58.040 --> 48:04.040]  Three days later she put a restraining order on me from hell
[48:04.040 --> 48:07.040]  For two years, can't see her or the daughter
[48:07.040 --> 48:09.040]  And here's my question
[48:09.040 --> 48:12.040]  I have delayed this because I wanted to talk to you
[48:12.040 --> 48:14.040]  And all the things that I needed to do
[48:14.040 --> 48:18.040]  Is what should I do in court for this PI that says
[48:18.040 --> 48:23.040]  In that three days later that she lied to the cops that night
[48:23.040 --> 48:25.040]  Saying that I didn't hit her
[48:25.040 --> 48:27.040]  Three days later she said that I did
[48:27.040 --> 48:31.040]  And I also took a high power
[48:31.040 --> 48:35.040]  This company is called
[48:35.040 --> 48:39.040]  It's a polygraph test that I took
[48:39.040 --> 48:43.040]  That I went to court over already
[48:43.040 --> 48:47.040]  And they said I don't care about a lie detector test
[48:47.040 --> 48:50.040]  It's absolute truth what the name of that company is
[48:50.040 --> 48:53.040]  And I passed it and they didn't care
[48:53.040 --> 48:56.040]  But the question is now that I have this
[48:56.040 --> 48:59.040]  I want to get this PI off my record
[48:59.040 --> 49:05.040]  Could I use that my wife three days later said that they lied
[49:05.040 --> 49:07.040]  She lied to the cops
[49:07.040 --> 49:08.040]  Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute
[49:08.040 --> 49:12.040]  Has the PI been adjudicated?
[49:12.040 --> 49:14.040]  Did you go to court?
[49:14.040 --> 49:16.040]  No, it has not
[49:16.040 --> 49:19.040]  I'm still waiting for the court date
[49:19.040 --> 49:21.040]  It's been two years?
[49:21.040 --> 49:23.040]  This was last year
[49:23.040 --> 49:26.040]  This was last year in October
[49:26.040 --> 49:28.040]  Or really the second
[49:28.040 --> 49:30.040]  Moved to dismiss to older prosecutors
[49:30.040 --> 49:32.040]  Yeah, and besides that
[49:32.040 --> 49:36.040]  How can you be publicly intoxicated in your own home on your own property?
[49:36.040 --> 49:38.040]  That's not public
[49:38.040 --> 49:41.040]  I know, I could have been
[49:41.040 --> 49:46.040]  You know, I was both on the street and on my yard
[49:46.040 --> 49:49.040]  Well, did the police witness you
[49:49.040 --> 49:54.040]  Public property to be publicly intoxicated in your yard isn't good enough
[49:54.040 --> 49:59.040]  I was both on the street and both on my yard
[49:59.040 --> 50:03.040]  Well, the police would have had to have witnessed you stumbling in the streets
[50:03.040 --> 50:06.040]  Being a hazard to yourself or others
[50:06.040 --> 50:08.040]  They knew I was sober
[50:08.040 --> 50:12.040]  What they told me later and other people is that the reason they arrest you is because
[50:12.040 --> 50:14.040]  For your protection
[50:14.040 --> 50:17.040]  And I wanted to thank them so much for arresting me
[50:17.040 --> 50:21.040]  But that's the reason why they arrest you that I've heard from other people is
[50:21.040 --> 50:24.040]  Both for the wife and the husband is they arrest you to separate
[50:24.040 --> 50:25.040]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute
[50:25.040 --> 50:27.040]  These are two different issues that you got
[50:27.040 --> 50:31.040]  The police got called out for domestic violence issue
[50:31.040 --> 50:32.040]  But then they
[50:32.040 --> 50:34.040]  They weren't called out for domestic
[50:34.040 --> 50:36.040]  She just called up for the 911
[50:36.040 --> 50:38.040]  She was concerned
[50:38.040 --> 50:39.040]  She didn't call up for domestic violence
[50:39.040 --> 50:42.040]  Yeah, I didn't get arrested that night for domestic violence
[50:42.040 --> 50:44.040]  I got arrested for a PI that night
[50:44.040 --> 50:47.040]  And that's just false arrest
[50:47.040 --> 50:50.040]  Did they take any kind, do any kind of sobriety test?
[50:50.040 --> 50:51.040]  No
[50:51.040 --> 50:52.040]  They have no evidence
[50:52.040 --> 50:56.040]  Tell the prosecutor to go screw yourself
[50:56.040 --> 50:59.040]  Stick this case, we're going to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court
[50:59.040 --> 51:00.040]  Yeah, no kidding
[51:00.040 --> 51:01.040]  I'm going to be in court, healing the court
[51:01.040 --> 51:05.040]  They have no evidence and besides it's too old to prosecute
[51:05.040 --> 51:06.040]  Really?
[51:06.040 --> 51:07.040]  It's not even on your record
[51:07.040 --> 51:08.040]  I didn't want to keep them from crying though
[51:08.040 --> 51:11.040]  It's not even on your record
[51:11.040 --> 51:15.040]  Yeah, I know that, so what should I tell them?
[51:15.040 --> 51:16.040]  Just go to hell?
[51:16.040 --> 51:20.040]  No, file a motion to dismiss too old to prosecute
[51:20.040 --> 51:24.040]  File a motion to dismiss for lack of evidence
[51:24.040 --> 51:28.040]  When Randy is saying too old to prosecute now
[51:28.040 --> 51:33.040]  He's talking about the Speedy Trial Act
[51:33.040 --> 51:37.040]  No, I'm talking about the constitutional right to a Speedy Trial
[51:37.040 --> 51:41.040]  The Speedy Trial Act has been overturned in Texas
[51:41.040 --> 51:45.040]  Because it prescribed a judicial decision
[51:45.040 --> 51:51.040]  But the constitutional right to a Speedy Trial has not been overturned
[51:51.040 --> 51:54.040]  Okay, here's where the problem is
[51:54.040 --> 51:56.040]  When something like this happens, it's amazing
[51:56.040 --> 51:57.040]  People don't realize it
[51:57.040 --> 51:59.040]  I lost my family, I lost my home
[51:59.040 --> 52:02.040]  I lost my job because my wife called up
[52:02.040 --> 52:03.040]  And they've laid me off
[52:03.040 --> 52:07.040]  And this is a big time company that's going into a worldwide thing
[52:07.040 --> 52:08.040]  That's another story
[52:08.040 --> 52:13.040]  Because it's like I'm going to be getting my job back after five months
[52:13.040 --> 52:18.040]  But what was the reason I was saying that?
[52:18.040 --> 52:22.040]  I lost my train of thought
[52:22.040 --> 52:26.040]  As you get older, that's not going to get better, my mother told me
[52:26.040 --> 52:30.040]  Well, I'm 34, this has been devastating to me
[52:30.040 --> 52:32.040]  I mean, I just can't believe what...
[52:32.040 --> 52:35.040]  Well, it sounds to me like there's other things that are going on
[52:35.040 --> 52:39.040]  Because a charge of P.I. that's not even on your record
[52:39.040 --> 52:45.040]  I mean, it sounds like there's other issues going on to make things so devastating
[52:45.040 --> 52:47.040]  I mean, and I'm not sure
[52:47.040 --> 52:52.040]  Maybe you may have some kind of standing to sue this company for firing you
[52:52.040 --> 52:56.040]  Allegedly for a criminal act when you have not even been convicted yet
[52:56.040 --> 52:58.040]  I mean, I don't know if that's...
[52:58.040 --> 53:00.040]  Thank you, that's another thing
[53:00.040 --> 53:02.040]  They haven't fired me, they put me...
[53:02.040 --> 53:06.040]  Right now it's called administrative leave, and they're in trouble
[53:06.040 --> 53:12.040]  That's another issue, but I remembered what...
[53:12.040 --> 53:14.040]  Well, anyway...
[53:14.040 --> 53:17.040]  Well, the only problem you're going to have in that regard is remember
[53:17.040 --> 53:20.040]  Texas is a right-to-work state, it's an at-will state
[53:20.040 --> 53:24.040]  Yeah, that's true, you can't sue them for letting you go for something like that
[53:24.040 --> 53:25.040]  That's true
[53:25.040 --> 53:26.040]  In other states...
[53:26.040 --> 53:27.040]  Actually, you can
[53:27.040 --> 53:28.040]  You can?
[53:28.040 --> 53:35.040]  Yes, because the courts have ruled that a profession is a property right
[53:35.040 --> 53:44.040]  Once you're working for them and you have your time and personal investment in the employment
[53:44.040 --> 53:53.040]  then they can't fire you or just dismiss you out of hand without some sort of cause
[53:53.040 --> 53:59.040]  Right, and see, there's one person that's working at Capitol Metro when I drive a bus
[53:59.040 --> 54:02.040]  is that he was arrested for family violence
[54:02.040 --> 54:06.040]  and I told this person, the personnel, I said, well, wait a minute
[54:06.040 --> 54:08.040]  because I came back and I said, well, wait a minute
[54:08.040 --> 54:12.040]  there's a person here working here right now that was arrested for this
[54:12.040 --> 54:16.040]  and is working here finding Daniels and no problem
[54:16.040 --> 54:20.040]  She said, well, I didn't hire him, I hired you and I can fire you
[54:20.040 --> 54:25.040]  Well, this is really, this is going on, that's another subject
[54:25.040 --> 54:28.040]  and I appreciate what you said because it's being fought
[54:28.040 --> 54:32.040]  and I've gotten some big time help with this into some investigating world
[54:32.040 --> 54:34.040]  This is going to turn out to be a big thing
[54:34.040 --> 54:38.040]  It's been five months, I've been fighting that, but I thank you for...
[54:38.040 --> 54:44.040]  What it is, okay, you talked about the speedy trial, what I was trying to get back at
[54:44.040 --> 54:49.040]  is that the first time I missed it because, you know, when you lose everything
[54:49.040 --> 54:53.040]  you can't get, as far as the first trial was, I wasn't able to get there
[54:53.040 --> 54:54.040]  The second one...
[54:54.040 --> 54:57.040]  Wait, wait, wait, did you miss a hearing or the trial?
[54:57.040 --> 55:04.040]  No, I missed the, I guess, whatever, I guess it's the hearing the first time
[55:04.040 --> 55:06.040]  Okay, did they file a...
[55:06.040 --> 55:08.040]  The hearing was the first time
[55:08.040 --> 55:11.040]  Did they file failure to appear against you?
[55:11.040 --> 55:15.040]  No, I called up and they said don't worry about it
[55:15.040 --> 55:23.040]  As concerns speedy trial, the only time that's charged against you
[55:23.040 --> 55:25.040]  is time that you actually caused
[55:25.040 --> 55:31.040]  If you missed the one hearing, then the time from the time you're arrested
[55:31.040 --> 55:37.040]  to that hearing doesn't count, all the time after that does
[55:37.040 --> 55:42.040]  Okay, so really they don't have anything against me because here's the last question
[55:42.040 --> 55:45.040]  I know y'all are busy and I love y'all very much because I hear y'all
[55:45.040 --> 55:48.040]  I want to do it some more, but could I say, could I use that
[55:48.040 --> 55:53.040]  and I want to be my own attorney to go and say that look, here it is over here
[55:53.040 --> 55:57.040]  three days later she said that she lied that night to the police officers
[55:57.040 --> 56:00.040]  So what are you, what's the truth and what's a lie?
[56:00.040 --> 56:01.040]  Could I use that?
[56:01.040 --> 56:05.040]  Yeah, but that has nothing to do with them arresting you on PI
[56:05.040 --> 56:10.040]  I mean, if they have no evidence against you for being public intoxicated
[56:10.040 --> 56:13.040]  they have no evidence against you for being public intoxicated
[56:13.040 --> 56:15.040]  If it's too old to prosecute, it's too old to prosecute
[56:15.040 --> 56:18.040]  It has nothing to do with your wife lying about it
[56:18.040 --> 56:25.040]  I mean, the only thing that that has to do with is that she committed a crime of abusing 911
[56:25.040 --> 56:28.040]  of falsely calling 911, I forgot exactly what the statute is
[56:28.040 --> 56:34.040]  but she could be prosecuted for that, but that has nothing to do with you defending yourself for the PI
[56:34.040 --> 56:36.040]  Okay, good, all right
[56:36.040 --> 56:37.040]  Okay
[56:37.040 --> 56:39.040]  Well, God bless you
[56:39.040 --> 56:46.040]  When you're involved in something like this, sometimes it's hard to get those issues really clear
[56:46.040 --> 56:52.040]  It's real important to you that your wife lied about this, but as to the case itself
[56:52.040 --> 56:54.040]  It has nothing to do with it at all
[56:54.040 --> 56:58.040]  I mean, if you wanted to like give her some blowback over this
[56:58.040 --> 57:04.040]  you could maybe go to the district attorney and bring that document that she signed or whatever
[57:04.040 --> 57:10.040]  and say, look, she called 911 under false pretenses
[57:10.040 --> 57:14.040]  and that's like a class A misdemeanor in Texas, I believe
[57:14.040 --> 57:20.040]  I'll have to look it up again, but that's a very serious charge to call 911 under false pretenses
[57:20.040 --> 57:24.040]  So, I mean, you could just like dish out some blowback to her over that
[57:24.040 --> 57:27.040]  but that has nothing to do with your case at all
[57:27.040 --> 57:35.040]  The only thing that has to do with your PI is that there's no evidence against you whatsoever
[57:35.040 --> 57:37.040]  and it's too old to prosecute, those are the main things
[57:37.040 --> 57:39.040]  Okay, well, that's good, I'm glad that you...
[57:39.040 --> 57:40.040]  Okay
[57:40.040 --> 57:42.040]  Because I was thinking I could use one against the other
[57:42.040 --> 57:45.040]  No, no, it has nothing to do with each other
[57:45.040 --> 57:47.040]  Okay, good, okay, that's all, God bless you
[57:47.040 --> 57:51.040]  Thank you all so much for being alive and well and being on the radio
[57:51.040 --> 57:53.040]  Okay, thank you, bad Bob
[57:53.040 --> 58:00.040]  Okay, all right, we're coming into the top of the hour break here
[58:00.040 --> 58:09.040]  and Steve was mentioning some remedies that he's used in the past in legal land
[58:09.040 --> 58:13.040]  so I would like Steve to mention some of these things when we get back on the other side
[58:13.040 --> 58:18.040]  and we've got Dan in Connecticut, Ken and Steve
[58:18.040 --> 58:23.040]  We'll be taking your calls on the other side, we will be right back
[58:48.040 --> 59:00.040]  Music
[59:00.040 --> 59:04.040]  My name is Randall Kelton and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio
[59:04.040 --> 59:09.040]  We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials
[59:09.040 --> 59:13.040]  With the mortgage crisis worsening, we set our sights on finding a remedy
[59:13.040 --> 59:15.040]  for people who have been cheated by their lenders
[59:15.040 --> 59:18.040]  If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off
[59:18.040 --> 59:22.040]  you have probably been cheated out of thousands, but there is a remedy
[59:22.040 --> 59:30.040]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140
[59:30.040 --> 59:33.040]  and find out how to use the consumer protection laws
[59:33.040 --> 59:37.040]  to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception
[59:37.040 --> 59:40.040]  We will prepare for you a qualified written request
[59:40.040 --> 59:43.040]  that will expose the fraud and put the lenders on the dime
[59:43.040 --> 59:48.040]  Lender fraud is bankrupting this country and it's time to fight back
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[59:55.040 --> 01:00:00.040]  and get the information you need to stop the money changers in their tracks
[01:00:00.040 --> 01:00:04.040]  This news brief brought to you by The International Newsnet
[01:00:04.040 --> 01:00:09.040]  On Thursday, Virginia became the first state to enact legislation
[01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:13.040]  that prohibits the federal government from forcing its citizens to purchase
[01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:15.040]  government-approved health insurance
[01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:18.040]  Tensions in southern Yemen continued to rise Thursday
[01:00:18.040 --> 01:00:22.040]  after police killed a separatist protester for trying to raise a flag
[01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:26.040]  of formerly independent South Yemen at a government building
[01:00:26.040 --> 01:00:31.040]  Iceland has all but given up on agreeing a new deal with the UK and the Netherlands
[01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:35.040]  to repay more than $5.2 billion of debt
[01:00:35.040 --> 01:00:40.040]  It had hoped to avoid a referendum by agreeing a repayment plan before the weekend
[01:00:40.040 --> 01:00:43.040]  but the vote is likely to go ahead Saturday
[01:00:43.040 --> 01:00:48.040]  Opinion polls suggest Icelandic voters will reject a plan agreed last year
[01:00:48.040 --> 01:00:53.040]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report
[01:00:55.040 --> 01:00:59.040]  Kay Ida, head of the UN mission in Afghanistan, said Thursday
[01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:06.040]  it's high time a political solution was found with the Taliban to resolve the eight-year-old conflict
[01:01:06.040 --> 01:01:11.040]  Ida said he hoped a Spring Peace Jogger Afghan President Hamid Karzai is organising
[01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:14.040]  would result in a national consensus for peace
[01:01:14.040 --> 01:01:17.040]  Ida said he has always been behind a policy of engagement
[01:01:17.040 --> 01:01:23.040]  but has no illusions about the complexities of negotiating peace with Taliban leaders
[01:01:23.040 --> 01:01:29.040]  Ida said he would continue to push for electoral reform following Karzai's decree last week
[01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:35.040]  giving Karzai the authority to appoint members of a formerly independent electoral complaints commission
[01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:41.040]  The panel which monitors election fraud was previously dominated by UN appointees
[01:01:41.040 --> 01:01:53.040]  who uncovered massive fraud in last year's presidential election
[01:01:53.040 --> 01:02:00.040]  The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focusing on hate organisations
[01:02:00.040 --> 01:02:05.040]  says the US is facing a surge in anti-government extremist groups and armed militias
[01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:12.040]  driven by hostility to Barack Obama, anger over the economy and increasing propagation of conspiracy theories
[01:02:12.040 --> 01:02:14.040]  by media such as Fox News
[01:02:14.040 --> 01:02:20.040]  The SPLC said in a report extremist patriot groups came roaring back to life last year
[01:02:20.040 --> 01:02:25.040]  as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 groups
[01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:29.040]  The report says, quote, since the installation of Barack Obama
[01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:36.040]  right-wing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers and racist skinheads and others have been arrested
[01:02:36.040 --> 01:02:40.040]  and alleged plots to assassinate the nation's first black president
[01:02:40.040 --> 01:02:46.040]  The report says the patriot movement has, quote, made significant inroads into the conservative political scene
[01:02:46.040 --> 01:02:50.040]  in part driven by a growing view of the US administration
[01:02:50.040 --> 01:02:56.040]  as part of a plot to impose one world government on liberty-loving Americans
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[01:03:37.040 --> 01:03:55.040]  Alright, we will occupy our father's house, our father in heaven
[01:03:55.040 --> 01:04:02.040]  We are doing everything we can to be good stewards of the earth until he returns
[01:04:02.040 --> 01:04:08.040]  Alright, we are here with Steve, our special guest, the financial analyst
[01:04:08.040 --> 01:04:10.040]  and he's going to have to go pretty soon
[01:04:10.040 --> 01:04:13.040]  We have a couple of callers who have questions for him
[01:04:13.040 --> 01:04:18.040]  Before I go to Ken, Steve, you were going to briefly explain a remedy that you've implemented
[01:04:18.040 --> 01:04:22.040]  with some degree of success in the past
[01:04:22.040 --> 01:04:31.040]  Back in like 2002, I had some debt collectors coming after me for some alleged debt, right?
[01:04:31.040 --> 01:04:35.040]  And I held these people off for many years actually
[01:04:35.040 --> 01:04:39.040]  to the point where statute of limitations kicked in
[01:04:39.040 --> 01:04:45.040]  In Illinois, it's five years. If nobody prosecutes within that, it's kind of a moot point
[01:04:45.040 --> 01:04:49.040]  and they can't bring suit after that
[01:04:49.040 --> 01:04:53.040]  Well, the technique I really was using was actually pretty simple
[01:04:53.040 --> 01:04:57.040]  It was saying I demand to know who you are
[01:04:57.040 --> 01:05:02.040]  How do you have permission to enter into an agreement between two other parties
[01:05:02.040 --> 01:05:04.040]  when I don't know who you are?
[01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:08.040]  How do you have legal standing in this issue?
[01:05:08.040 --> 01:05:14.040]  Are you the holder in due course of this obligation if it were proven to be true?
[01:05:14.040 --> 01:05:17.040]  And can you verify all the above?
[01:05:17.040 --> 01:05:20.040]  And I never heard from any of them again
[01:05:20.040 --> 01:05:23.040]  Good for you, good for you, I love it
[01:05:23.040 --> 01:05:26.040]  Okay, we're going to go back to the call board now
[01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:30.040]  Ken from Texas, you have a question for Steve
[01:05:30.040 --> 01:05:35.040]  Yes, I do, Steve. I really appreciate your talk there
[01:05:35.040 --> 01:05:37.040]  It has a bunch of different good points
[01:05:37.040 --> 01:05:39.040]  Thanks
[01:05:39.040 --> 01:05:44.040]  About the, you're talking about the currency part of it
[01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:47.040]  It's kind of what piqued my interest
[01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:53.040]  And of course, anybody who's studied the birth of the Fed
[01:05:53.040 --> 01:06:01.040]  and how they sprung on us in 1913 will know that they're not going to be easily dislodged
[01:06:01.040 --> 01:06:04.040]  Not by playing by their rules, you won't
[01:06:04.040 --> 01:06:11.040]  No, however, there is another angle on this as a course I'm sure you know about
[01:06:11.040 --> 01:06:14.040]  and I wanted to get your idea about it
[01:06:14.040 --> 01:06:19.040]  But there's a couple angles, one in particular is one that's been used mostly in other countries
[01:06:19.040 --> 01:06:24.040]  and it's called a local economic trading system or LETS
[01:06:24.040 --> 01:06:25.040]  Exactly
[01:06:25.040 --> 01:06:28.040]  Yeah, it's a local currency
[01:06:28.040 --> 01:06:31.040]  Well see, here's my big problem right there
[01:06:31.040 --> 01:06:35.040]  We had a tea party from last April, right?
[01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:44.040]  Now how is Sarah Palin interjecting herself and calling herself the leader of the tea party movement?
[01:06:44.040 --> 01:06:50.040]  Why do we have to allow anybody else to do the obvious for us?
[01:06:50.040 --> 01:06:58.040]  Ken, if I want to set up a local or regional even, how about national trade system?
[01:06:58.040 --> 01:07:03.040]  I don't need currency per se
[01:07:03.040 --> 01:07:09.040]  I just need to come up with some kind of way to even the trade
[01:07:09.040 --> 01:07:17.040]  and if let's say I need you to fix my engine and you would normally as a mechanic charge me 500 bucks
[01:07:17.040 --> 01:07:24.040]  The only thing I can produce for you because I gave the example with Deborah about cutting her grass
[01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:27.040]  Well, how many times do you want your grass cut, Ken?
[01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:30.040]  You know, summer is only so long, right?
[01:07:30.040 --> 01:07:39.040]  Well, if there was a trade somewhere where maybe I do Randy's grass and Eddie's
[01:07:39.040 --> 01:07:43.040]  and they are able to trade something with you
[01:07:43.040 --> 01:07:45.040]  We don't need a currency per se
[01:07:45.040 --> 01:07:52.040]  We just need a format to register where the amount of trades are coming from
[01:07:52.040 --> 01:07:55.040]  Right, you need points or credits or something
[01:07:55.040 --> 01:08:04.040]  You need points because anytime we involve currency, you need a regulatory body to oversee it
[01:08:04.040 --> 01:08:12.040]  The minute regulatory comes into play, the bank swoop in, take over like Sarah did with the tea party thing
[01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:21.040]  In the moment that happens, you are right back at the plate swinging the bat again
[01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:25.040]  There's no trade that we can do amongst ourselves
[01:08:25.040 --> 01:08:27.040]  That's the first place to start
[01:08:27.040 --> 01:08:29.040]  Anything you can do
[01:08:29.040 --> 01:08:37.040]  But it has bigger influence than just will it save you money in the way you are used to thinking about it
[01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:43.040]  Much bigger benefit is getting you into closer communication with your neighbors
[01:08:43.040 --> 01:08:48.040]  and your local people and your local businesses on a personal level
[01:08:48.040 --> 01:08:52.040]  Go ahead
[01:08:52.040 --> 01:08:56.040]  I think that was one of the main reasons these were created
[01:08:56.040 --> 01:09:02.040]  is a reflex action to keep local money local
[01:09:02.040 --> 01:09:04.040]  Right
[01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:10.040]  Well, one of the problems here is it's a deeper social issue
[01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:18.040]  We have allowed the Fed since 1913 to take over and turn our money into coupons
[01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:23.040]  If you go and take these coupons and trade them in for precious metals, it's just an example
[01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:25.040]  I'm not telling you to do this on any level
[01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:31.040]  because I don't have any license to give you advice of any kind
[01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:40.040]  I'll put it in my example, if I buy precious metals or any metal, any tangible good for those coupons
[01:09:40.040 --> 01:09:46.040]  and traded that tangible good to you for some other good or service
[01:09:46.040 --> 01:09:50.040]  I haven't brought the coupon into the equation
[01:09:50.040 --> 01:09:58.040]  If the coupon is out of the loop, how does that third party ask me for anything?
[01:09:58.040 --> 01:10:04.040]  These are the issues that one at a time we have to learn how to do
[01:10:04.040 --> 01:10:08.040]  and I would love to be able to teach people how
[01:10:08.040 --> 01:10:12.040]  but frankly, I don't have that kind of time
[01:10:12.040 --> 01:10:20.040]  Well, it is also very difficult to arrange one-to-one trades in any kind of volume
[01:10:20.040 --> 01:10:25.040]  I have chickens, let's say, and you have cows
[01:10:25.040 --> 01:10:33.040]  If I want to trade with you, you don't need 300 chickens for a cow, we'll say
[01:10:33.040 --> 01:10:37.040]  That's why the points, of course, come in handy
[01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:40.040]  I guess the other thing I wanted to ask you was
[01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:46.040]  I've heard about this organization called the American Open Currency Standard
[01:10:46.040 --> 01:10:51.040]  They have kind of what we're talking about
[01:10:51.040 --> 01:10:57.040]  In fact, they promote setting up this type of arrangement in your own backyard
[01:10:57.040 --> 01:11:00.040]  I just wondered if you'd heard of them
[01:11:00.040 --> 01:11:03.040]  What's that called, Ken?
[01:11:03.040 --> 01:11:08.040]  They're called the American Open Currency Standard
[01:11:08.040 --> 01:11:14.040]  They have a website at opencurrency.com
[01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:19.040]  Right now, it looks like they have 23 different currencies, they call them
[01:11:19.040 --> 01:11:23.040]  that various groups have set up
[01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:26.040]  and they have these things that are called tokens
[01:11:26.040 --> 01:11:29.040]  and they're actually some kind of a trade unit
[01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:38.040]  and they have 26,000 merchants that accept these amongst them
[01:11:38.040 --> 01:11:45.040]  Are any of those units or tokens or whatever like a precious metal back?
[01:11:45.040 --> 01:11:50.040]  I don't believe they are, I think that's optional
[01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:56.040]  They are a metal token, they don't call them dollars or coins even
[01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:58.040]  Oh right, they can't
[01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:06.040]  Yeah, oh here's one that's silver and it doesn't claim to be pure or anything like that
[01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:09.040]  I'm really no expert about them, I just discovered them
[01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:18.040]  The problem I could see coming up with that is, like I said before, I'm a religious guy
[01:12:18.040 --> 01:12:24.040]  So I look at it like God put a very limited amount of these metals on our earth for a reason
[01:12:24.040 --> 01:12:28.040]  Not only do they have fantastic industrial applications
[01:12:28.040 --> 01:12:33.040]  like silver is the best electrical conductor you could ever ask for
[01:12:33.040 --> 01:12:37.040]  It also has antimicrobial properties
[01:12:37.040 --> 01:12:42.040]  Gold is one of the most malleable, dense metals there are
[01:12:42.040 --> 01:12:44.040]  and it's actually pretty
[01:12:44.040 --> 01:12:49.040]  So it has a lot of applications on its own
[01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:54.040]  But because of the rarity, once that metal has been extracted from the earth
[01:12:54.040 --> 01:13:03.040]  and put into some form, whether it's a bar or an ingot or a coin or a blank or a round, any of the above
[01:13:03.040 --> 01:13:07.040]  it's nobody else's liability
[01:13:07.040 --> 01:13:09.040]  It doesn't owe anything
[01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:14.040]  All it does is represent physical labor and risk
[01:13:14.040 --> 01:13:21.040]  and it's universally accepted instantaneously anywhere on planet earth
[01:13:21.040 --> 01:13:28.040]  So by bringing in too many other complexities that can't be easily swapped or settled
[01:13:28.040 --> 01:13:32.040]  or recognized in any language or culture
[01:13:32.040 --> 01:13:37.040]  you're opening up another can of worms that is going to lead to nothing but more
[01:13:37.040 --> 01:13:41.040]  Maybe not today, Ken, and I'm not trying to discount anything these folks are doing
[01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:43.040]  because I don't know anything about it
[01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:47.040]  It would be ignorant to do so
[01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:52.040]  But I like to stick with simple and honest
[01:13:52.040 --> 01:13:57.040]  It just keeps it clean and then you don't have to think and your brain doesn't hurt from working too hard
[01:13:57.040 --> 01:14:04.040]  Someone sent me some proposed legislation from Georgia you might find interesting
[01:14:04.040 --> 01:14:11.040]  The government was concerned with China pulling out of the dollar and the Middle East pulling out of the dollar
[01:14:11.040 --> 01:14:15.040]  And they will, and they are in the process of doing exactly that
[01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:23.040]  This legislation proposed that Georgia establish gold and silver as legal tender
[01:14:23.040 --> 01:14:32.040]  The coin being held at a value relative to the weight of the species
[01:14:32.040 --> 01:14:35.040]  Georgia wants to pull out of the dollar
[01:14:35.040 --> 01:14:41.040]  If the states pull out of the dollar and go to gold and silver they stabilize
[01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:43.040]  And Uncle Sam can go bye-bye
[01:14:43.040 --> 01:14:45.040]  You know what? Well, Uncle Sam's not going bye-bye
[01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:49.040]  Uncle Sam has thermonuclear warheads
[01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:50.040]  He's not going anywhere
[01:14:50.040 --> 01:14:53.040]  He's got the ultimate chilely, okay?
[01:14:53.040 --> 01:15:01.040]  So let's put that off to the table because it just becomes way too difficult of a topic to breach
[01:15:01.040 --> 01:15:08.040]  If you just look at it of, Georgia doesn't have to secede from the dollar
[01:15:08.040 --> 01:15:12.040]  The dollar is a dead man walking
[01:15:12.040 --> 01:15:16.040]  When I heard that woman freak out on me at the grocery store
[01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:21.040]  It really came to the front of my soul
[01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:30.040]  That all this stuff that I have been concerned about and watching for the last couple years is 100% true
[01:15:30.040 --> 01:15:39.040]  See, hyperinflation or massive inflation streaks, it's not an economic event
[01:15:39.040 --> 01:15:43.040]  It's a currency event, okay?
[01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:50.040]  You could have hyperinflation in a boom time if people lose confidence in the legal tender
[01:15:50.040 --> 01:15:54.040]  Because I don't call these coupons money, you notice that, right?
[01:15:54.040 --> 01:15:56.040]  That's right
[01:15:56.040 --> 01:15:58.040]  Oh yeah, I noticed that
[01:15:58.040 --> 01:16:02.040]  But if the confidence ever slips in the value of the coupon
[01:16:02.040 --> 01:16:14.040]  It goes from being worth $5 off in trade value or value accepted to 1 one hundredth of a cent
[01:16:14.040 --> 01:16:17.040]  Which is worthless
[01:16:17.040 --> 01:16:25.040]  And the lack of confidence, this is why studying cycles has always been so fascinating to me as an analyst
[01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:34.040]  Because we truly are in a repetitive cycle that we have lived through before many times
[01:16:34.040 --> 01:16:37.040]  And we've learned nothing
[01:16:37.040 --> 01:16:40.040]  And that I guess is the part that disheartens me the most
[01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:42.040]  It's right in front of our face
[01:16:42.040 --> 01:16:49.040]  And the whole confidence game is literally falling apart right in front of all of our eyes
[01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:53.040]  It's not a story, man, and it's not something out of science fiction
[01:16:53.040 --> 01:16:55.040]  Okay, listen, hold on, we're going to break
[01:16:55.040 --> 01:16:56.040]  Ken, uh
[01:16:56.040 --> 01:16:57.040]  Yeah, thank you
[01:16:57.040 --> 01:17:00.040]  Alright, thank you, Ken, we're going to go to Steve next
[01:17:00.040 --> 01:17:04.040]  You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics?
[01:17:04.040 --> 01:17:05.040]  Sorry!
[01:17:05.040 --> 01:17:07.040]  Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve?
[01:17:07.040 --> 01:17:08.040]  What?
[01:17:08.040 --> 01:17:13.040]  If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity
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[01:18:00.040 --> 01:18:25.040]  Oh, come on
[01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:30.040]  If I can't get everything I want
[01:18:30.040 --> 01:18:36.040]  Maybe I'll arrange it
[01:18:36.040 --> 01:18:41.040]  If I can't get everything I need
[01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:47.040]  Maybe I'll arrange it
[01:18:47.040 --> 01:18:50.040]  If the people of the world can get it
[01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:58.040]  Okay, we are back. We're taking your calls. Steve, the financial analyst, our friend has agreed to stay on the air for a little while longer
[01:18:58.040 --> 01:19:06.040]  And we've got a couple callers that have questions for him. We've got Steve Skidmore and then Jeff and then Dan
[01:19:06.040 --> 01:19:09.040]  Okay, go ahead, Steve. You have a question for Steve
[01:19:09.040 --> 01:19:13.040]  Yes, I do. Steve, I'd like to thank you first for being on Rule of Law
[01:19:13.040 --> 01:19:22.040]  I always enjoy listening to your insight, your intellect, your very learned man, and thank you for sharing that with us
[01:19:22.040 --> 01:19:35.040]  Let me preface my question by saying that Mr. Kelton and I work in the same field when it comes to mortgages
[01:19:35.040 --> 01:19:55.040]  We hope to be very successful, and if we are very successful, there is an extremely likely chance that we could quite possibly place in our collective client's hands
[01:19:55.040 --> 01:20:12.040]  the means in which to possibly negate their mortgage. Most of these mortgages are above $100,000 each, some in the range of half a million dollars
[01:20:12.040 --> 01:20:30.040]  If we were successful in putting in our client's hands the tools that they need to possibly negate these mortgages in, let's say, numbers of 100,000, maybe 200,000
[01:20:30.040 --> 01:20:47.040]  What impact do you think taking that monetary figure out of the debt system and back into the local economies, what effect do you think that might have on the overall national economy?
[01:20:47.040 --> 01:20:55.040]  I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the system doesn't actually work that way
[01:20:55.040 --> 01:21:02.040]  Remember the Matrix movie? There is no spoon. You remember that scene?
[01:21:02.040 --> 01:21:03.040]  Correct
[01:21:03.040 --> 01:21:19.040]  There is no money. We don't have money. We have debt instruments posing under threat at the end of a barrel of a gun the legal tender law stands
[01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:20.040]  Right
[01:21:20.040 --> 01:21:39.040]  When you remove a liability through discharge, it just negates and zeroes off. You don't have a dollar benefit per se that will flow back to the economy because we are a debt-based system
[01:21:39.040 --> 01:21:50.040]  The only money that could come into existence under the current paradigm of legal tender crap is you borrow more into existence
[01:21:50.040 --> 01:21:51.040]  Right
[01:21:51.040 --> 01:22:00.040]  Once that money has been repaid, if every mortgage in the United States was repaid tomorrow, there would be no currency in circulation at all and everything would cease
[01:22:00.040 --> 01:22:05.040]  Sounds insane, doesn't it? I'm out of debt and I can't do anything
[01:22:05.040 --> 01:22:10.040]  Because the money would no longer be there
[01:22:10.040 --> 01:22:18.040]  Here is the ironic part on top of that. This is like the Pandora's box part of it
[01:22:18.040 --> 01:22:26.040]  When the money was borrowed into existence, it never was there before until the debtor created it, right?
[01:22:26.040 --> 01:22:27.040]  Correct
[01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:40.040]  Okay. The only way you can discharge a debt is through another debt by borrowing more money to allegedly pay the original debt
[01:22:40.040 --> 01:22:58.040]  And that is because of one reason and one reason only. When the original sum was created out of thin air, the matching funds necessary to create the interest demanded upon the deal or bargain or contract was never created
[01:22:58.040 --> 01:23:00.040]  It's a Ponzi scheme
[01:23:00.040 --> 01:23:01.040]  Yes it is
[01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:24.040]  It's mathematically impossible to ever be out of debt unless you also create at the same stroke of the pen like an escrow account of some kind on a national level that would be holding and accruing another form of interest to make up the interest everybody else has to pay on the original joke
[01:23:24.040 --> 01:23:33.040]  And anybody who can see that will instantly have a giant light bulb go on over their head
[01:23:33.040 --> 01:23:40.040]  Every aspect of this is a lie. There is no money, there is no spoon, it's all in your head
[01:23:40.040 --> 01:23:47.040]  That debt never existed, the entire system is flawed massively
[01:23:47.040 --> 01:23:48.040]  Agreed
[01:23:48.040 --> 01:24:06.040]  Because of that never creating the interest money, every 70 years, at least in the past, well now between the couch potato syndrome and mass distraction TV, we're able to convince people to make the cycle go on further
[01:24:06.040 --> 01:24:13.040]  All we're doing is making the pain that comes later exponentially worse
[01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:24.040]  If we would have had a depression in 1990 like we were about to go into, we would have been out of it by now
[01:24:24.040 --> 01:24:30.040]  We would be rebuilding, we would be looking at almost a new renaissance period all over again
[01:24:30.040 --> 01:24:35.040]  But we hacked everything in the house to get where we are today
[01:24:35.040 --> 01:24:43.040]  Well you've mentioned the 70 year cycle, it had been explained to me that bankruptcy is generally run in a 70 year cycle
[01:24:43.040 --> 01:24:51.040]  And throughout the course of history as a nation we have experienced these 70 year cycles the last time we went through one of these cycles
[01:24:51.040 --> 01:25:02.040]  Well the time before last we put up our land and the carpet baggers came down and foreclosed on the debt and took the land
[01:25:02.040 --> 01:25:12.040]  At that time we pledged our lives or our energy, our being, work and I believe that this is what we're seeing now
[01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:16.040]  They're coming to foreclose on us, we the people
[01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:27.040]  Well okay, no matter what you and I know about how it works, try to foreclose on me, what exactly are you into?
[01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:32.040]  I can lay down and die, you get no energy
[01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:39.040]  The people running this show are amazingly intelligent
[01:25:39.040 --> 01:25:45.040]  They have to know it's an unwinnable situation
[01:25:45.040 --> 01:25:50.040]  Unless the end result is we want to get rid of most of us anyway
[01:25:50.040 --> 01:26:01.040]  And what a great way to start killing each other off, were you listening to the part of the show when I went into the propaganda about the pigs nations?
[01:26:01.040 --> 01:26:03.040]  Yes
[01:26:03.040 --> 01:26:07.040]  Well we are looking at another holocaust
[01:26:07.040 --> 01:26:14.040]  If this is left to run its natural course with nobody saying exactly what are you going to do?
[01:26:14.040 --> 01:26:21.040]  No, Greece did not cause the United States to fall down and this will be like say by the end of summer
[01:26:21.040 --> 01:26:26.040]  Greece did not cause that, we caused that, we allowed it
[01:26:26.040 --> 01:26:34.040]  And you too Steve, me Steve, you Steve, Deborah, Eddie, everybody, we allowed it to happen
[01:26:34.040 --> 01:26:37.040]  We're only a few people
[01:26:37.040 --> 01:26:47.040]  You're not and we cannot play the violence card against them because they're praying and hoping that's what we do so they can openly annihilate you
[01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:58.040]  Well one of the most commonly accepted definitions of insanity is to repeat something over and over and expect the same result
[01:26:58.040 --> 01:27:01.040]  Well shedding blood has gotten us to where we're at now
[01:27:01.040 --> 01:27:10.040]  We can see that violence does not work and yes I do believe that there is a revolution going on right now
[01:27:10.040 --> 01:27:15.040]  The difference is this time is going to have to be a revolution of our minds
[01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:19.040]  Not of our blood, of our minds
[01:27:19.040 --> 01:27:25.040]  Steve thank you very much for taking my call and I hope to hear you on rule of law more often
[01:27:25.040 --> 01:27:27.040]  Well thank you sir, I appreciate it very much
[01:27:27.040 --> 01:27:28.040]  Thank you
[01:27:28.040 --> 01:27:31.040]  Alright thank you Steve, that's Steve Skidmore in Lispaw Detection
[01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:37.040]  Okay we're going to Jeff now from Michigan, Jeff what is your question for Steve?
[01:27:37.040 --> 01:27:42.040]  How are you doing? I've got another law school home project I'm working on
[01:27:42.040 --> 01:27:53.040]  It's my foreclosure of my buildings and I wanted to ask you guys Steve since he knows quite a lot about how the money system works
[01:27:53.040 --> 01:28:00.040]  I've got a county who is demanding a whole lot of coupons from me
[01:28:00.040 --> 01:28:02.040]  That a boy
[01:28:02.040 --> 01:28:07.040]  I don't believe that they're entitled to any of them and I don't want to give any of them to them
[01:28:07.040 --> 01:28:10.040]  Is this on a property tax issue?
[01:28:10.040 --> 01:28:12.040]  Yeah
[01:28:12.040 --> 01:28:16.040]  Alright this is one of the stickiest
[01:28:16.040 --> 01:28:20.040]  I've discharged them A for V and they're not accepting them
[01:28:20.040 --> 01:28:24.040]  They don't understand or they're refusing to accept the truth
[01:28:24.040 --> 01:28:26.040]  The acceptance for a value?
[01:28:26.040 --> 01:28:27.040]  Yeah
[01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:37.040]  Alright, I have seen that fail way too many times
[01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:44.040]  I live near Chicago, it's a pretty common thing that let's say I want to build a skyscraper
[01:28:44.040 --> 01:28:54.040]  And I believe that the building, because it's going to be big and very very pretty, it's going to cost one billion dollars to create
[01:28:54.040 --> 01:28:57.040]  It's going to be really tall, really nice
[01:28:57.040 --> 01:29:04.040]  But in Chicago it's pretty much accepted, you know how we vote twice and vote often?
[01:29:04.040 --> 01:29:06.040]  Yeah right
[01:29:06.040 --> 01:29:21.040]  In Chicago it's pretty much a known fact that if it's going to be a billion dollar building, I'm going to pay out a hundred million in miscellaneous unforeseen expenses
[01:29:21.040 --> 01:29:23.040]  You see where I'm going with that?
[01:29:23.040 --> 01:29:24.040]  Oh yeah
[01:29:24.040 --> 01:29:30.040]  Okay, I like to nickname that Guido, the killer pimp
[01:29:30.040 --> 01:29:33.040]  Guido's going to be paid
[01:29:33.040 --> 01:29:38.040]  Now you can play the game against Guido to an extent
[01:29:38.040 --> 01:29:41.040]  In the money realm you will not win
[01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:43.040]  Not conventionally
[01:29:43.040 --> 01:29:50.040]  Okay listen we're going to break, Jeff stay on the line, we're going to talk more about Guido on the other side
[01:29:50.040 --> 01:29:54.040]  And callers, if you have a question for Steve call in
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[01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:11.040]  Okay, we're speaking with Jeff from Michigan right now
[01:32:11.040 --> 01:32:18.040]  And you're talking about Guido's going to get paid one way or the other Steve and the whole accepted for value thing
[01:32:18.040 --> 01:32:21.040]  I've never seen it work. Have you ever seen it work?
[01:32:21.040 --> 01:32:25.040]  Or if you would speak to that and then also about the Guido thing, that'd be great
[01:32:25.040 --> 01:32:29.040]  I myself have looked into it for many, many years
[01:32:29.040 --> 01:32:35.040]  I know other people who have done the same and they're very intelligent, very resourceful folks
[01:32:35.040 --> 01:32:39.040]  Here's where this really all just goes south, okay?
[01:32:39.040 --> 01:32:44.040]  The system is set up on legalese and mumbo jumbo
[01:32:44.040 --> 01:32:47.040]  It's kind of like the matrix
[01:32:47.040 --> 01:32:53.040]  And you could get all the way to the almost very end on accepted for value
[01:32:53.040 --> 01:33:01.040]  And make one little fractional mistake, a jurisdictional mistake or an accounting mistake
[01:33:01.040 --> 01:33:05.040]  Or not have direct evidence from somewhere where you're obtaining your credit from
[01:33:05.040 --> 01:33:08.040]  There's a bunch of different ways to do that
[01:33:08.040 --> 01:33:14.040]  And you've lost everything and now you're in jail
[01:33:14.040 --> 01:33:20.040]  It is a very dangerous proposition that you're barking up, very
[01:33:20.040 --> 01:33:26.040]  And dangerous from the fact of you're trying to tell Guido, the killer pimp
[01:33:26.040 --> 01:33:33.040]  Hey man, we're not paying you $100 million worth of grease, we're putting up this skyscraper
[01:33:33.040 --> 01:33:38.040]  And you go to the job site in the morning and all the petty bones are on fire
[01:33:38.040 --> 01:33:43.040]  The next day you're told that the steel won't be there for six months
[01:33:43.040 --> 01:33:48.040]  Where it was literally in your yard that morning
[01:33:48.040 --> 01:33:55.040]  When Guido stands up and demands respect, Guido will get respect
[01:33:55.040 --> 01:33:58.040]  That's all there is to it, that's a street law
[01:33:58.040 --> 01:34:05.040]  This doesn't mean it's right, this doesn't mean you roll over and just play left dog puppy
[01:34:05.040 --> 01:34:10.040]  But there are certain facts of life that unfortunately just ring true
[01:34:10.040 --> 01:34:14.040]  No matter what age or era you're in
[01:34:14.040 --> 01:34:20.040]  Organized crime is just what it sounds like
[01:34:20.040 --> 01:34:25.040]  So I can't tell you what to do or what to think
[01:34:25.040 --> 01:34:34.040]  But I personally, I have never played one game with my own personal property taxes ever
[01:34:34.040 --> 01:34:41.040]  Because the amount of time, like my property tax is about $3,000 a year
[01:34:41.040 --> 01:34:49.040]  I'm going to donate out of my life literally hundreds of hours in the paperwork game
[01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:54.040]  To try to avoid paying that $3,000 bill to Guido
[01:34:54.040 --> 01:34:57.040]  I can't throw enough hours at it to make it work
[01:34:57.040 --> 01:35:01.040]  Because Guido is going to just knock me off one way or the other
[01:35:01.040 --> 01:35:07.040]  It's cheaper for me to do something that God gave me a talent for
[01:35:07.040 --> 01:35:10.040]  Collect my little coupons one way or another
[01:35:10.040 --> 01:35:14.040]  Give my coupons back to Guido and go here Guido
[01:35:14.040 --> 01:35:18.040]  Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's
[01:35:18.040 --> 01:35:22.040]  God will fill your cup, God will fill your cup
[01:35:22.040 --> 01:35:27.040]  And he will fill it tamped and overflowing every time
[01:35:27.040 --> 01:35:33.040]  The problem is we're at the point in this country where being squeezed from the top and the bottom
[01:35:33.040 --> 01:35:36.040]  And pretty soon there's going to be nothing left to squeeze
[01:35:36.040 --> 01:35:39.040]  And that's where I'm at where there's nothing left to squeeze
[01:35:39.040 --> 01:35:42.040]  I have two buildings and I have to make a choice
[01:35:42.040 --> 01:35:45.040]  If I'm going to give in and pay them, I'm going to pay for the one I live in
[01:35:45.040 --> 01:35:49.040]  And lose my property
[01:35:49.040 --> 01:35:55.040]  How much debt percentage do you have on that secondary property?
[01:35:55.040 --> 01:36:02.040]  If $100,000 and you owe $80,000, you own 20%
[01:36:02.040 --> 01:36:06.040]  I paid $20,000 for the building
[01:36:06.040 --> 01:36:12.040]  And I owe right now I'm behind $12,000 in property debt
[01:36:12.040 --> 01:36:15.040]  Let it go
[01:36:15.040 --> 01:36:20.040]  Because with this economy and the current property values, you're upside down anyway
[01:36:20.040 --> 01:36:24.040]  Well here, I can't tell you this, it's just an opinion, okay?
[01:36:24.040 --> 01:36:27.040]  You understand that, I don't have a license to give advice
[01:36:27.040 --> 01:36:32.040]  Financial exceptionally
[01:36:32.040 --> 01:36:36.040]  If that was me, I know it's not right
[01:36:36.040 --> 01:36:40.040]  And I know that this is unjust
[01:36:40.040 --> 01:36:44.040]  But I'm not going to lose the dwelling my children live in
[01:36:44.040 --> 01:36:47.040]  If a push comes to shove
[01:36:47.040 --> 01:36:51.040]  If I'm $12,000 in the hole anyway on a $20,000 property
[01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:55.040]  Even if I could liquidate it tomorrow at full face value
[01:36:55.040 --> 01:36:58.040]  I pay off my $12,000 to Guido
[01:36:58.040 --> 01:37:00.040]  I have $8,000 left over
[01:37:00.040 --> 01:37:03.040]  If you can do that, do it
[01:37:03.040 --> 01:37:06.040]  If you could do that, if I could do that
[01:37:06.040 --> 01:37:08.040]  I'm sorry, I made a mistake there
[01:37:08.040 --> 01:37:13.040]  If I could do that, I would probably do that for myself
[01:37:13.040 --> 01:37:18.040]  If I could do it at some deal where I could come out with some type of
[01:37:18.040 --> 01:37:21.040]  Something in my hand after Guido gets paid
[01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:25.040]  At least Guido didn't totally knock me off the ladder
[01:37:25.040 --> 01:37:33.040]  Jeff, does that property represent an amount of coupon inflow to you from a business
[01:37:33.040 --> 01:37:36.040]  Or is it just the property itself at face value?
[01:37:36.040 --> 01:37:38.040]  No, that's my business
[01:37:38.040 --> 01:37:40.040]  I have my home and my business
[01:37:40.040 --> 01:37:43.040]  And I have enough to pay off only one
[01:37:43.040 --> 01:37:48.040]  And if I got to give up the other, I'm going to fight tooth and nail
[01:37:48.040 --> 01:37:55.040]  I'm following criminal charges against them for a corporation trying to deprive me of all my rights
[01:37:55.040 --> 01:37:59.040]  And there's a whole list of things that I'm charging them with
[01:37:59.040 --> 01:38:01.040]  So are you going to lose your business?
[01:38:01.040 --> 01:38:07.040]  Are you not going to have a means of living if you have to let this secondary property go?
[01:38:07.040 --> 01:38:13.040]  If I lose at the hearing and everything
[01:38:13.040 --> 01:38:16.040]  If I lose all my fight and they sell it
[01:38:16.040 --> 01:38:19.040]  I've got six months after the sheriff's sale to get out
[01:38:19.040 --> 01:38:26.040]  And I can move everything into my other building and reopen like 25% of the room
[01:38:26.040 --> 01:38:28.040]  I can reopen the store
[01:38:28.040 --> 01:38:30.040]  I'm not going to lose my business
[01:38:30.040 --> 01:38:34.040]  I'm going to gamble on the one that the business is in, not the one that I live in
[01:38:34.040 --> 01:38:37.040]  Then I can move everything over to the one I live in, that's not a problem
[01:38:37.040 --> 01:38:40.040]  But the point is, they're not entitled to this money
[01:38:40.040 --> 01:38:43.040]  I've given them A for V
[01:38:43.040 --> 01:38:45.040]  So I'm going to file criminal charges against them
[01:38:45.040 --> 01:38:47.040]  Hopefully Guido is going to understand
[01:38:47.040 --> 01:38:50.040]  It's going to cost him tens of thousands of dollars
[01:38:50.040 --> 01:38:53.040]  It won't, it'll cost us
[01:38:53.040 --> 01:38:57.040]  What taxpayer is Guido's funding source?
[01:38:57.040 --> 01:39:00.040]  Guido's not taking anything out of Guido's pocket
[01:39:00.040 --> 01:39:04.040]  Guido will go and shake down your entire neighborhood
[01:39:04.040 --> 01:39:08.040]  Instead of like re-tiling the floor in your local school
[01:39:08.040 --> 01:39:13.040]  Guido will pay the local attorney to make sure you pay
[01:39:13.040 --> 01:39:15.040]  Then the school doesn't get its tile
[01:39:15.040 --> 01:39:19.040]  You lose anyway, and now the school lost
[01:39:19.040 --> 01:39:26.040]  Guido never loses, he has an infinite amount of coupons behind him
[01:39:26.040 --> 01:39:30.040]  Guido will never lose, ever
[01:39:30.040 --> 01:39:35.040]  They're up for a big loss now, all over the country
[01:39:35.040 --> 01:39:38.040]  They're rotten crooks, they're not entitled to this
[01:39:38.040 --> 01:39:43.040]  Rules, regulations and ordinances only apply to those members of that corporation
[01:39:43.040 --> 01:39:45.040]  They don't apply to the living being
[01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:51.040]  I've got tons of Supreme Court sightings that prove that the property owner has all the rights
[01:39:51.040 --> 01:39:54.040]  I'm the patent holder, they can't divest me with my property
[01:39:54.040 --> 01:39:58.040]  Yet they're stealing it, they committed open perjury in the court
[01:39:58.040 --> 01:40:01.040]  And I'm going to fight them every which way I can
[01:40:01.040 --> 01:40:04.040]  And drag it out for as many years as I can before I have to
[01:40:04.040 --> 01:40:07.040]  Okay, that's your actual remedy
[01:40:07.040 --> 01:40:14.040]  By being a pro se litigant, you can go in and buy time
[01:40:14.040 --> 01:40:17.040]  That's what you need to do to find out
[01:40:17.040 --> 01:40:21.040]  You know, like when the judge says, okay, continue to the next day
[01:40:21.040 --> 01:40:24.040]  Walk right up to the guy and say, look, man
[01:40:24.040 --> 01:40:31.040]  Every time you show up, this is costing everybody, including me, somewhere down the road, more money
[01:40:31.040 --> 01:40:39.040]  What is it that I can do that you will accept so I can continue to have an income?
[01:40:39.040 --> 01:40:42.040]  Because if you take my property, you lose
[01:40:42.040 --> 01:40:47.040]  It's going to cost you money in the litigation, it's going to cost you money in court appearances, whatever
[01:40:47.040 --> 01:40:49.040]  It's a write-off
[01:40:49.040 --> 01:40:52.040]  So the county loses
[01:40:52.040 --> 01:40:58.040]  If you wipe me out, I'm broke and I'm on food stamps and WIC and I'm on all the programs
[01:40:58.040 --> 01:41:01.040]  The county loses again
[01:41:01.040 --> 01:41:09.040]  How about we just make some kind of arrangement and renegotiate your contract with Guido?
[01:41:09.040 --> 01:41:12.040]  It's worth a try and it'll buy you time
[01:41:12.040 --> 01:41:15.040]  Steve, I've tried this, there's no renegotiating
[01:41:15.040 --> 01:41:21.040]  I've been taxed for $150,000 for the property three times what I paid for in 2001
[01:41:21.040 --> 01:41:24.040]  Now that's outrageous to me
[01:41:24.040 --> 01:41:27.040]  And they say, you know, that's the tax tribunal
[01:41:27.040 --> 01:41:29.040]  Once a year you can argue that and that's it
[01:41:29.040 --> 01:41:32.040]  And they're not even in their jurisdiction, whatever
[01:41:32.040 --> 01:41:34.040]  I've tried it myself
[01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:38.040]  They're demanding cash, they're demanding cash in violation of HKR192
[01:41:38.040 --> 01:41:41.040]  And they can accept cash but they can't demand it
[01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:44.040]  They're demanding a particular form of currency
[01:41:44.040 --> 01:41:47.040]  It's a coupon that they're not entitled to
[01:41:47.040 --> 01:41:49.040]  Well, Jeff, let me ask you something
[01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:58.040]  I have been in court personally and pulled the whole money angle
[01:41:58.040 --> 01:42:01.040]  You're asking me for specific
[01:42:01.040 --> 01:42:09.040]  If you and I or anybody were to say, Your Honor, with all due respect, I'm not receiving a fair trial
[01:42:09.040 --> 01:42:15.040]  I demanded a jury of my peers to make this ruling, okay?
[01:42:15.040 --> 01:42:18.040]  Getting a jury nowadays is no easy task
[01:42:18.040 --> 01:42:20.040]  I'm sure you're aware of that
[01:42:20.040 --> 01:42:27.040]  If you did get a sitting jury, you have, chances are out of 12 people
[01:42:27.040 --> 01:42:31.040]  You have eight couch potatoes
[01:42:31.040 --> 01:42:36.040]  You have eight people who have no concept of what this country stands for anymore
[01:42:36.040 --> 01:42:43.040]  How it was formed, what it did, how it worked, and why it was so great
[01:42:43.040 --> 01:42:45.040]  They don't have a clue
[01:42:45.040 --> 01:42:50.040]  And if you don't know you have a right, you don't have one
[01:42:50.040 --> 01:42:54.040]  And they don't even know that these issues mean anything
[01:42:54.040 --> 01:42:56.040]  They don't care
[01:42:56.040 --> 01:42:58.040]  They don't know any better
[01:42:58.040 --> 01:43:04.040]  And I'm not holding that against them, per se, because if you just don't know, you just don't know
[01:43:04.040 --> 01:43:08.040]  You've been duped
[01:43:08.040 --> 01:43:15.040]  But if you keep looking, and brother, I know people personally
[01:43:15.040 --> 01:43:18.040]  That are smarter than I am
[01:43:18.040 --> 01:43:24.040]  That had resources and a lot of teamwork and a lot of help
[01:43:24.040 --> 01:43:27.040]  And I watch their lives ruined
[01:43:27.040 --> 01:43:31.040]  Doing this stuff, ruined
[01:43:31.040 --> 01:43:35.040]  I can get over the whole issue with legal tender
[01:43:35.040 --> 01:43:39.040]  Not outside of my property tax, but in a hundred other ways
[01:43:39.040 --> 01:43:45.040]  It'll save me more money to then make that payment on my property tax
[01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:48.040]  Open your mind, there are better solutions
[01:43:48.040 --> 01:43:53.040]  Pick your battle, you only have so much time
[01:43:53.040 --> 01:43:56.040]  And I will pray for you, believe me
[01:43:56.040 --> 01:44:00.040]  Alright, thank you, and we've got Rob from Connecticut up next
[01:44:00.040 --> 01:44:05.040]  Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters, or even lawsuits?
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[01:45:36.040 --> 01:45:40.040]  Okay, we're with Jeff in Michigan right now, and Jeff, we need to wrap up quickly here
[01:45:40.040 --> 01:45:44.040]  Because we do have another caller for Steve, and we're in the final segment
[01:45:44.040 --> 01:45:47.040]  I just had a couple of comments for Jeff
[01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:55.040]  You can try to, if they have, if the appraisal district has improperly appraised your property value
[01:45:55.040 --> 01:46:00.040]  And that's how they're gouging you, you can appeal that into the district court
[01:46:00.040 --> 01:46:03.040]  At least here in Texas, I don't know how that works in Michigan
[01:46:03.040 --> 01:46:08.040]  But there has to be some kind of remedy for judicial review
[01:46:08.040 --> 01:46:11.040]  Otherwise it's like a bill of attainder or something
[01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:14.040]  And so you may want to look into that if they're trying to play maneuvers
[01:46:14.040 --> 01:46:17.040]  Or play games with the appraisal values
[01:46:17.040 --> 01:46:21.040]  And as far as just the whole property tax issue thing is concerned
[01:46:21.040 --> 01:46:28.040]  The only success I have ever seen ever at all is a small group of people
[01:46:28.040 --> 01:46:30.040]  And I'm trying to chase it down right now
[01:46:30.040 --> 01:46:36.040]  Exactly what all is involved is that you have to get your property declared by the court system
[01:46:36.040 --> 01:46:41.040]  As private property instead of real property
[01:46:41.040 --> 01:46:46.040]  And then you have to sue the appraisal district to get your property removed from the tax roll
[01:46:46.040 --> 01:46:49.040]  Because only real property can be taxed, not private property
[01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:52.040]  And it's a long, lengthy, very complicated process
[01:46:52.040 --> 01:46:55.040]  And I'm not exactly sure how it all works
[01:46:55.040 --> 01:47:00.040]  But playing the paper game like what Steve was saying, I don't know
[01:47:00.040 --> 01:47:03.040]  I've seen some very scary negative results myself
[01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:06.040]  Jeff, let me jump in with one more comment, please
[01:47:06.040 --> 01:47:11.040]  Yeah, look, I have an old friend, his name is Jeff
[01:47:11.040 --> 01:47:19.040]  He's a very sharp, very family-oriented, loving man, loves our country, just a good person
[01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:28.040]  And I watched him spend hundreds and hundreds of hours of his life trying to fight something that he was annihilated on
[01:47:28.040 --> 01:47:30.040]  It wasn't even close
[01:47:30.040 --> 01:47:35.040]  If it was close, you might get better next time
[01:47:35.040 --> 01:47:38.040]  Blown out of the water, annihilated
[01:47:38.040 --> 01:47:43.040]  And I sat down with him one day and I said, you know what the problem is?
[01:47:43.040 --> 01:47:49.040]  When it's cheaper for you to go get a job at McDonald's
[01:47:49.040 --> 01:47:53.040]  And even when they take the taxes out of that
[01:47:53.040 --> 01:47:56.040]  And use that money to go do this
[01:47:56.040 --> 01:48:03.040]  Than it is to spend all this time finding a battle that you lost before you even started
[01:48:03.040 --> 01:48:09.040]  This is one of those battles that when you pick
[01:48:09.040 --> 01:48:12.040]  You're setting yourself up for a failure
[01:48:12.040 --> 01:48:15.040]  If you had worked at McDonald's and made the money
[01:48:15.040 --> 01:48:17.040]  And I'm not picking on McDonald's, okay
[01:48:17.040 --> 01:48:20.040]  I don't think that's the wrong way
[01:48:20.040 --> 01:48:25.040]  But if you had earned the money anyway and paid this to keep your business up
[01:48:25.040 --> 01:48:31.040]  To use that income to change the way you live in other ways
[01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:34.040]  Would be much more profitable
[01:48:34.040 --> 01:48:41.040]  Allowing you to have more brain time to figure out a better way somewhere else
[01:48:41.040 --> 01:48:44.040]  You're only a man
[01:48:44.040 --> 01:48:49.040]  And you are picking on Guido the Killer Pimp
[01:48:49.040 --> 01:48:51.040]  And I'm not putting you down
[01:48:51.040 --> 01:48:54.040]  And believe me, I am not putting down where your heart is
[01:48:54.040 --> 01:48:56.040]  Or what you're trying to do
[01:48:56.040 --> 01:49:00.040]  Or where you're actually right
[01:49:00.040 --> 01:49:04.040]  On any level am I doing that to you?
[01:49:04.040 --> 01:49:06.040]  But I've seen this happen to other people
[01:49:06.040 --> 01:49:08.040]  And I'm just going to pray
[01:49:08.040 --> 01:49:13.040]  It doesn't happen to you when you're able to find a way to buy some time
[01:49:13.040 --> 01:49:15.040]  Somewhere
[01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:17.040]  So you can make this work for yourself
[01:49:17.040 --> 01:49:20.040]  That's all I could ever ask
[01:49:20.040 --> 01:49:22.040]  I'll certainly, you know, I've got contingency plans
[01:49:22.040 --> 01:49:24.040]  I'll certainly make it work out for my benefit in the end
[01:49:24.040 --> 01:49:27.040]  But all I'm trying to do is push the issue
[01:49:27.040 --> 01:49:33.040]  I want Guido to discharge my debt from my contract trust account
[01:49:33.040 --> 01:49:35.040]  Rather than the coupons in my pocket
[01:49:35.040 --> 01:49:37.040]  Which is my lawful administrative remedy
[01:49:37.040 --> 01:49:38.040]  Good luck
[01:49:38.040 --> 01:49:39.040]  It's there
[01:49:39.040 --> 01:49:43.040]  I know people who have been imprisoned for it
[01:49:43.040 --> 01:49:45.040]  For using A for V?
[01:49:45.040 --> 01:49:48.040]  No, no
[01:49:48.040 --> 01:49:51.040]  For doing different forms
[01:49:51.040 --> 01:49:54.040]  Look, I could do 10 hours on this
[01:49:54.040 --> 01:49:55.040]  Literally
[01:49:55.040 --> 01:49:59.040]  Non-stop, no commercial breaks, not taking a breath, not taking a break
[01:49:59.040 --> 01:50:01.040]  I can go for 10 hours non-stop
[01:50:01.040 --> 01:50:07.040]  And probably cover 10% of what I've seen
[01:50:07.040 --> 01:50:11.040]  There are a host of other things that prove
[01:50:11.040 --> 01:50:14.040]  Your energy as a human being
[01:50:14.040 --> 01:50:19.040]  That's been confiscated in some form of document or trust or another
[01:50:19.040 --> 01:50:22.040]  Your social security number
[01:50:22.040 --> 01:50:25.040]  Flip over your card, see the digits on the back?
[01:50:25.040 --> 01:50:28.040]  Go get yourself a brand new card tomorrow and compare the numbers
[01:50:28.040 --> 01:50:31.040]  The bond number changes
[01:50:31.040 --> 01:50:32.040]  There's a reason for that
[01:50:32.040 --> 01:50:35.040]  It's a new trust account, a new foreign status trust
[01:50:35.040 --> 01:50:36.040]  No, it's the same trust
[01:50:36.040 --> 01:50:38.040]  The numbers changed
[01:50:38.040 --> 01:50:40.040]  It grew in value
[01:50:40.040 --> 01:50:43.040]  Because there's an exponent behind the curve
[01:50:43.040 --> 01:50:47.040]  Of how fast that money accrues interest
[01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:51.040]  It doesn't keep up with inflation, but it grows, okay?
[01:50:51.040 --> 01:50:55.040]  Every time it grows and they do a new calculation on it, there's a new number
[01:50:55.040 --> 01:50:58.040]  If you were in prison tomorrow
[01:50:58.040 --> 01:51:01.040]  The only reason they throw you in jail is you haven't paid the fine
[01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:05.040]  You're a warehouseman receipt
[01:51:05.040 --> 01:51:09.040]  The county writes a municipal bond against you
[01:51:09.040 --> 01:51:16.040]  And makes money from that on Wall Street in the Muni bond market, okay?
[01:51:16.040 --> 01:51:18.040]  You're talking about evil
[01:51:18.040 --> 01:51:21.040]  I am a man who believes in God
[01:51:21.040 --> 01:51:27.040]  God's most powerful angel is my enemy
[01:51:27.040 --> 01:51:31.040]  I am not God's most powerful angel
[01:51:31.040 --> 01:51:35.040]  If I go pick a fight with God's most powerful angel
[01:51:35.040 --> 01:51:40.040]  He's going to kick the crap out of me
[01:51:40.040 --> 01:51:43.040]  And I have to accept that
[01:51:43.040 --> 01:51:45.040]  It took me a long time
[01:51:45.040 --> 01:51:51.040]  I think we have to pick our fights and do some prayer and meditation
[01:51:51.040 --> 01:51:55.040]  On the fights that the Lord wants you to choose
[01:51:55.040 --> 01:51:59.040]  Because ultimately God can kick his own most powerful angel
[01:51:59.040 --> 01:52:05.040]  But behind, you have to have that behind you
[01:52:05.040 --> 01:52:07.040]  Listen, we've got six minutes left
[01:52:07.040 --> 01:52:10.040]  Jeff, maybe we can talk about this another time
[01:52:10.040 --> 01:52:15.040]  We have one more caller for Steve, Rob from Connecticut
[01:52:15.040 --> 01:52:16.040]  Rob
[01:52:16.040 --> 01:52:17.040]  I pray for you, Jeff
[01:52:17.040 --> 01:52:19.040]  Yes, we pray for you, Jeff
[01:52:19.040 --> 01:52:20.040]  Our hearts are with you
[01:52:20.040 --> 01:52:22.040]  Okay, Rob, what is your question for Steve?
[01:52:22.040 --> 01:52:24.040]  We've got about six minutes here
[01:52:24.040 --> 01:52:27.040]  Yeah, I want to know if Steve and actually if any of you have heard of
[01:52:27.040 --> 01:52:32.040]  This tiny town in Austria called Wogel?
[01:52:32.040 --> 01:52:34.040]  Does not ring a bell
[01:52:34.040 --> 01:52:43.040]  Okay, well back in 1932 during the Depression, the mayor of Wogel got together with all the people in the town and said
[01:52:43.040 --> 01:52:47.040]  Look, we're going to print up these pieces of paper and we're going to call it our money
[01:52:47.040 --> 01:52:51.040]  Since we're not getting the money we need from the central bank in Austria
[01:52:51.040 --> 01:52:57.040]  So they started circulating this money and their economy took off
[01:52:57.040 --> 01:53:03.040]  They were able to pave roads, fix bridges, and all the townspeople had money to do business with each other
[01:53:03.040 --> 01:53:05.040]  And they didn't need gold to do it
[01:53:05.040 --> 01:53:11.040]  They just knew that they had their own little system and they were going to keep it within their town
[01:53:11.040 --> 01:53:17.040]  And that money was then paid back to the town to pay for taxes, including back taxes
[01:53:17.040 --> 01:53:22.040]  And the world, they caught the attention of the entire world while they were doing this
[01:53:22.040 --> 01:53:24.040]  And of course the bankers finally put a stop to it
[01:53:24.040 --> 01:53:29.040]  They passed a law in Austria making it illegal to do what they were doing
[01:53:29.040 --> 01:53:36.040]  So you don't need gold to run a successful economy, you just need to stay on top of what you're using for money
[01:53:36.040 --> 01:53:39.040]  You're missing my point
[01:53:39.040 --> 01:53:42.040]  You can play the paper shuffle game
[01:53:42.040 --> 01:53:48.040]  The paper kings, the kings of violence are going to win
[01:53:48.040 --> 01:53:51.040]  How? Here, just give me a second
[01:53:51.040 --> 01:53:55.040]  You go outside of their territory
[01:53:55.040 --> 01:54:00.040]  The only thing man has ever created on his own
[01:54:00.040 --> 01:54:04.040]  You can't build a piece of furniture, God made the tree
[01:54:04.040 --> 01:54:09.040]  You can shape it, but the root product was from God
[01:54:09.040 --> 01:54:13.040]  The only thing, if you really give this a little bit of thought, it will blow your mind
[01:54:13.040 --> 01:54:18.040]  The only thing that man has ever created was paper money, digital money
[01:54:18.040 --> 01:54:21.040]  The paper actually came from the pulp of a tree
[01:54:21.040 --> 01:54:25.040]  But the concept of the digits behind it mean nothing
[01:54:25.040 --> 01:54:28.040]  And that is what man created
[01:54:28.040 --> 01:54:31.040]  The gold is an elemental nature
[01:54:31.040 --> 01:54:34.040]  You cannot get a government
[01:54:34.040 --> 01:54:38.040]  I can pull out an American gold eagle
[01:54:38.040 --> 01:54:40.040]  You flip it over on the back
[01:54:40.040 --> 01:54:43.040]  It says it's a $50 gold piece
[01:54:43.040 --> 01:54:46.040]  Who printed that? Treasury
[01:54:46.040 --> 01:54:49.040]  There's been court cases where people have said
[01:54:49.040 --> 01:54:52.040]  Here, I gave you 10 of these and I traded them for the car
[01:54:52.040 --> 01:54:54.040]  Oh, no, no, no, no, that's income
[01:54:54.040 --> 01:54:59.040]  In today's numbers, he had $11,000 in change worth of income from the swap of that gold
[01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:01.040]  No, sir, I did not
[01:55:01.040 --> 01:55:03.040]  It was a trade
[01:55:03.040 --> 01:55:06.040]  What he paid for that gold, he might have paid $260
[01:55:06.040 --> 01:55:09.040]  He might have paid $700, I don't know
[01:55:09.040 --> 01:55:17.040]  Nobody knows because it's indeterminable value until that gold has been turned back into currency
[01:55:17.040 --> 01:55:22.040]  Okay, if there's no swap back into coupon currency
[01:55:22.040 --> 01:55:24.040]  It's a direct trade
[01:55:24.040 --> 01:55:32.040]  And the only numerical value you can ask is what is the number given by the Treasury stamped on the coin
[01:55:32.040 --> 01:55:38.040]  Those 10 coins according to the Treasury are $500
[01:55:38.040 --> 01:55:45.040]  If anybody was going to impose a liability, it would be on the income of the $500
[01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:54.040]  There have been court cases where the IRS and the Treasury have both tried to throw both sides of the coin at somebody and lost
[01:55:54.040 --> 01:55:56.040]  Because the jury was like, this is ridiculous
[01:55:56.040 --> 01:56:01.040]  You are the ones who set the value and you are the ones who raised the bar
[01:56:01.040 --> 01:56:07.040]  And you can't ask somebody to pay on both sides of the equation, it doesn't work
[01:56:07.040 --> 01:56:13.040]  The metal, I don't understand it, but I know what I know
[01:56:13.040 --> 01:56:18.040]  And the metal is the clearing mechanism that's nobody's liability
[01:56:18.040 --> 01:56:22.040]  You just can't get around it
[01:56:22.040 --> 01:56:26.040]  And is it perfect? Oh heck no
[01:56:26.040 --> 01:56:32.040]  But if you and I are doing a trade and you're the one on the short side of the stick
[01:56:32.040 --> 01:56:40.040]  I throw in a little silver coin, a fractional gold, a pumpkin
[01:56:40.040 --> 01:56:43.040]  And try to even up the trade
[01:56:43.040 --> 01:56:50.040]  The only reason precious metal is accepted is because we as simple people can look back in history
[01:56:50.040 --> 01:56:57.040]  And see 10,000 years of proven commerce that had these as backing
[01:56:57.040 --> 01:57:00.040]  And during those periods there was success
[01:57:00.040 --> 01:57:03.040]  And people like to stick with what they know
[01:57:03.040 --> 01:57:06.040]  Is it perfect? By no means
[01:57:06.040 --> 01:57:09.040]  Is it the solution to all problems? No
[01:57:09.040 --> 01:57:14.040]  We're the solution, stop causing the problems
[01:57:14.040 --> 01:57:17.040]  I know that sounds like a joke
[01:57:17.040 --> 01:57:19.040]  But that's really what's causing it
[01:57:19.040 --> 01:57:22.040]  Hang out with people that you can trust
[01:57:22.040 --> 01:57:26.040]  Trade everywhere you possibly can
[01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:30.040]  Every single time you trade versus pulling a coupon out of your pocket
[01:57:30.040 --> 01:57:36.040]  You're pulling energy off of the beast
[01:57:36.040 --> 01:57:39.040]  I know that sounds wacky man, believe me
[01:57:39.040 --> 01:57:41.040]  I've gone through the full gamut
[01:57:41.040 --> 01:57:43.040]  I've been on both sides of the bell curve
[01:57:43.040 --> 01:57:47.040]  It makes perfect sense because you have to borrow money into existence
[01:57:47.040 --> 01:57:51.040]  So the less you use it, every time you spend it you're borrowing it
[01:57:51.040 --> 01:57:53.040]  You're borrowing more and more into existence
[01:57:53.040 --> 01:57:57.040]  Even money that you think you earned from your paycheck
[01:57:57.040 --> 01:57:59.040]  You're still borrowing it into existence
[01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:02.040]  So the more you can work with barter and trade
[01:58:02.040 --> 01:58:05.040]  The more you're damaging the beast
[01:58:05.040 --> 01:58:12.040]  Well, you're taking that acceptance of a coupon at the end of a barrel of a gun
[01:58:12.040 --> 01:58:13.040]  Exactly
[01:58:13.040 --> 01:58:15.040]  You don't have a choice, there's a law of the land
[01:58:15.040 --> 01:58:17.040]  Alright, listen, we are at the end of the show
[01:58:17.040 --> 01:58:20.040]  Steve, thank you very much for hanging with us for so long
[01:58:20.040 --> 01:58:25.040]  And listeners, if you would like more information about Steve's company
[01:58:25.040 --> 01:58:27.040]  Please send me an email
[01:58:27.040 --> 01:58:29.040]  It's not my company, I just work for them
[01:58:29.040 --> 01:58:32.040]  Okay, the company that Steve works for, excuse me
[01:58:32.040 --> 01:58:36.040]  Send me an email and I will get you in touch
[01:58:36.040 --> 01:58:37.040]  Goodnight everybody
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