[00:00.000 --> 00:14.000] What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. [00:14.000 --> 00:28.000] If you a fool fucker, somebody fuck from me. If you a dopey, get away from me. [00:28.000 --> 00:39.000] I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [00:39.000 --> 00:59.000] Walking like I'm dangerous, dangerous. If you wanna live, treat me good. Wanting if you wanna live, you better treat me good. [00:59.000 --> 01:10.000] I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? [01:10.000 --> 01:30.000] I'm dangerous, dangerous. If you drink, mother, treat me good. And if your knees break, treat me good. [01:30.000 --> 01:41.000] I'm like a flashing light. There's not no rolling time. I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? [01:41.000 --> 02:04.000] I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [02:04.000 --> 02:19.000] I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [02:19.000 --> 02:34.000] Treat me good. If you wanna live, you better treat me good. [02:34.000 --> 03:01.000] I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [03:01.000 --> 03:07.000] Get him out of here. Out of here. Get out of here, man. What are you gonna do here? [03:07.000 --> 03:14.000] Tell you that at home. You're disturbing me, man. You're not gonna take this. You're making me mad. [03:14.000 --> 03:41.000] I'm like a stepping razor. I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [03:41.000 --> 03:47.000] I try to do this sleeping. I'm like a stepping razor. You're disturbing me, but I'm flexing. [03:47.000 --> 03:58.000] I'm like a stepping razor. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [03:58.000 --> 04:12.000] I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [04:12.000 --> 04:29.000] I'm telling you, neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard. Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard. [04:29.000 --> 04:43.000] I gave him sponge and eating. I gave him red and eating. Watch out, disaster is guessing. Would you stop from barking? Fasting, neighbor, peeping. Looking over, sneaking. Your dog in my Niagara. [04:43.000 --> 04:55.000] Barking, disturbing. When did you start sleeping? Your dog's barking. Your rooster man is crowing. I've been seeing her flashing. You know that I rank it. [04:55.000 --> 05:04.000] With me, you still are doing. Tell me how you like it, how you're talking. Let you know I'm warning, but your dog barks too much. [05:04.000 --> 05:17.000] Fasting, disturbing. Neighbor, neighbor, be good to me. I'm like a stepping razor. I'm like a stepping razor. What's my life? I'm dangerous, dangerous. I'm like a stepping razor. [05:17.000 --> 05:39.000] So neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me yard. Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me yard. Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me yard. [05:39.000 --> 05:40.000] Ready, man? [05:40.000 --> 05:41.000] Let's go! [05:41.000 --> 05:43.000] Six of me say something [05:43.000 --> 05:45.000] Half a dozen, same thing [05:45.000 --> 05:47.000] Six of me say one thing [05:47.000 --> 05:49.000] Half a dozen on the same thing [05:49.000 --> 05:51.000] You know like they want it [05:51.000 --> 05:53.000] Get mad when I start arguing [05:53.000 --> 05:55.000] Tell me it's not your business [05:55.000 --> 05:57.000] Lock my sense on your dog one day [05:57.000 --> 05:59.000] You dog is barking [05:59.000 --> 06:01.000] I didn't think that was him eating [06:01.000 --> 06:03.000] Now he mouthing to him [06:03.000 --> 06:05.000] Dog not saying a thing [06:05.000 --> 06:07.000] Big stone, I will hit him [06:07.000 --> 06:09.000] Then I go to my yard and say [06:09.000 --> 06:11.000] Dog is barking [06:11.000 --> 06:13.000] I didn't think that was him eating [06:13.000 --> 06:15.000] Lock my sense on your dog one day [06:15.000 --> 06:17.000] You dog is barking [06:17.000 --> 06:19.000] I didn't think that was him eating [06:19.000 --> 06:21.000] Now he mouthing to him [06:21.000 --> 06:23.000] Dog not saying a thing [06:23.000 --> 06:25.000] Big stone, I will hit him [06:25.000 --> 06:27.000] Now he mouthing to him [06:27.000 --> 06:29.000] Dog not saying a thing [06:29.000 --> 06:31.000] Big stone, I will hit him [06:31.000 --> 06:33.000] Now he mouthing to him [06:33.000 --> 06:35.000] Big stone, I will hit him [06:35.000 --> 06:37.000] Keep him out, keep him out, right, right [06:37.000 --> 06:39.000] Never, never [06:39.000 --> 06:43.000] If you're the dog out of my yard [06:43.000 --> 06:45.000] Run him out, run him out, run him out, run him out [06:45.000 --> 06:47.000] She should have done the work [06:47.000 --> 06:49.000] Look at the dog then I follow him [06:49.000 --> 06:51.000] One big stone, I hit him [06:51.000 --> 06:53.000] Now you're cursing, arguing [06:53.000 --> 06:55.000] Six of one thing [06:55.000 --> 06:57.000] Half a dozen on the other [06:57.000 --> 06:59.000] It's still the same thing [06:59.000 --> 07:01.000] Never get mad and angry [07:01.000 --> 07:03.000] Want to come argue with me [07:03.000 --> 07:05.000] Cry your dog in your car [07:05.000 --> 07:07.000] Take you back, come back in [07:07.000 --> 07:09.000] Neighborhood is washing [07:09.000 --> 07:11.000] Everybody getting angry [07:11.000 --> 07:13.000] Your dog like this [07:13.000 --> 07:15.000] Come in my backyard [07:15.000 --> 07:17.000] And doing mischief thing [07:17.000 --> 07:19.000] They got me classed them [07:19.000 --> 07:21.000] You taught me class them [07:21.000 --> 07:23.000] He bite up my culture [07:23.000 --> 07:25.000] Come in the kitchen rasta [07:25.000 --> 07:27.000] I gave him pizza, pizza [07:27.000 --> 07:29.000] Now the dog ain't saying a thing [07:29.000 --> 07:31.000] Chocolate him, eating [07:31.000 --> 07:33.000] Sponges what me give him [07:33.000 --> 07:35.000] Now your dog is biting [07:35.000 --> 07:37.000] Me you want to cursing [07:37.000 --> 07:39.000] Neighbor should have listened [07:39.000 --> 07:41.000] Losing, never just keeping [07:41.000 --> 07:43.000] Never, never [07:43.000 --> 07:47.000] If you're the dog out of my yard [07:47.000 --> 07:49.000] Keep him out, keep him out, keep him out, right [07:49.000 --> 07:51.000] Oh, never, never [07:51.000 --> 07:55.000] If you're the dog out of my yard [07:55.000 --> 07:57.000] Run him out, run him out, run him out [07:57.000 --> 07:59.000] Watch your dog is barking [07:59.000 --> 08:01.000] I'm on your dog's service [08:01.000 --> 08:03.000] I am trying to sleep him [08:03.000 --> 08:05.000] Dog listen, keep barking [08:05.000 --> 08:07.000] See, they may not like it [08:07.000 --> 08:09.000] Come now, argue with me [08:09.000 --> 08:11.000] Give him pizza, chocolate [08:11.000 --> 08:13.000] Dog you know he's eating [08:13.000 --> 08:15.000] No he won't destroy it [08:15.000 --> 08:17.000] No he can't do back it [08:17.000 --> 08:19.000] You get mad and angry [08:19.000 --> 08:21.000] Come over, argue with me [08:21.000 --> 08:23.000] Fuck, I'm annoying [08:23.000 --> 08:25.000] I tell you, give you warning [08:25.000 --> 08:27.000] Put you big dog on here [08:27.000 --> 08:29.000] But the neighbor don't hear [08:29.000 --> 08:31.000] Over my face peeping [08:31.000 --> 08:33.000] Over my face looking [08:33.000 --> 08:35.000] Want to see what's happening [08:35.000 --> 08:37.000] See your dog in your backyard [08:37.000 --> 08:39.000] And you would be getting mad [08:39.000 --> 08:41.000] But you're getting angry [08:41.000 --> 08:43.000] Take that one little something [08:43.000 --> 08:45.000] Say take that one little something [08:45.000 --> 08:47.000] Neighbor you've been watching [08:47.000 --> 08:49.000] Oh your dog, oh your dog is barking [08:49.000 --> 08:51.000] You know business bothy [08:51.000 --> 08:53.000] Neighbor they think me ugly [08:53.000 --> 08:55.000] Neighbor, neighbor [08:55.000 --> 08:59.000] Get your dog out of me yard [08:59.000 --> 09:01.000] Get him out, get him out, run him out [09:01.000 --> 09:03.000] Neighbor, neighbor [09:03.000 --> 09:07.000] Get your dog out of me yard [09:07.000 --> 09:09.000] Run him out, run him out, get him out [09:09.000 --> 09:11.000] He chew up my couch [09:11.000 --> 09:13.000] Dig up my garden [09:13.000 --> 09:15.000] Randy from Austin [09:15.000 --> 09:17.000] They didn't write that song for you [09:17.000 --> 09:19.000] No, we did not write that song for Randy from Austin [09:19.000 --> 09:21.000] Although [09:21.000 --> 09:23.000] He definitely inspired me [09:23.000 --> 09:25.000] To you know [09:25.000 --> 09:27.000] Do a quick rough mix [09:27.000 --> 09:29.000] That song is dedicated [09:29.000 --> 09:31.000] To Randy in Austin [09:31.000 --> 09:33.000] You know who you are, I love ya [09:33.000 --> 09:35.000] Keep calling in buddy [09:35.000 --> 09:37.000] Okay, so [09:37.000 --> 09:39.000] Let's start going to the [09:39.000 --> 09:41.000] Caller Bridge, we still have Jaclyn [09:41.000 --> 09:43.000] With us on the line, we'll be [09:43.000 --> 09:45.000] Continuing to discuss her case [09:45.000 --> 09:47.000] We're going to open up the phone lines now for the rest of the show [09:47.000 --> 09:49.000] Open line, open minds [09:49.000 --> 09:51.000] Call in with your questions [09:51.000 --> 09:53.000] Comments, issues [09:53.000 --> 09:57.000] 512-646-1984 [09:57.000 --> 09:59.000] We'll be taking your calls for the rest of the show [09:59.000 --> 10:01.000] We got a couple of callers on the line [10:01.000 --> 10:03.000] We got Daniel from North Carolina [10:03.000 --> 10:05.000] Daniel, thanks for calling in [10:05.000 --> 10:07.000] What's on your mind tonight? [10:07.000 --> 10:09.000] How you doing? [10:09.000 --> 10:11.000] Good [10:11.000 --> 10:13.000] Yes, I have a case [10:13.000 --> 10:15.000] Here in North Carolina [10:15.000 --> 10:17.000] And it's in Superior Court [10:17.000 --> 10:19.000] It's basically [10:19.000 --> 10:21.000] A traffic matter [10:21.000 --> 10:23.000] Of Lanesville Lou [10:23.000 --> 10:25.000] And someone was in the car [10:25.000 --> 10:27.000] With me and he had something on him [10:27.000 --> 10:29.000] And you pretty much know what happened [10:29.000 --> 10:31.000] From there [10:31.000 --> 10:33.000] And [10:33.000 --> 10:35.000] He wasn't charged with anything [10:35.000 --> 10:37.000] I was driving [10:37.000 --> 10:39.000] And they found something in the ashtray [10:39.000 --> 10:41.000] And on the floor [10:41.000 --> 10:43.000] And they charged me with it and they didn't charge him with it [10:43.000 --> 10:45.000] That's your problem [10:45.000 --> 10:47.000] I was going to say [10:47.000 --> 10:49.000] They said he had it on him [10:49.000 --> 10:51.000] If one has [10:51.000 --> 10:53.000] Drugs on him and the other one doesn't [10:53.000 --> 10:55.000] They can only charge the one [10:55.000 --> 10:57.000] That has the drugs on it [10:57.000 --> 10:59.000] But if one is driving the car [10:59.000 --> 11:01.000] And they find [11:01.000 --> 11:03.000] Evidence in the car [11:03.000 --> 11:05.000] Itself [11:05.000 --> 11:07.000] They get the driver [11:07.000 --> 11:09.000] Unless you can show that the car [11:09.000 --> 11:11.000] Actually belonged to the other guy [11:11.000 --> 11:13.000] And [11:13.000 --> 11:15.000] You had just gotten [11:15.000 --> 11:17.000] Behind the wheel or something [11:17.000 --> 11:19.000] Otherwise they're going to go for the driver [11:19.000 --> 11:21.000] Right, and that's what they want from me [11:21.000 --> 11:23.000] The presumption is [11:23.000 --> 11:25.000] That you were in control [11:25.000 --> 11:27.000] Of the vehicle [11:27.000 --> 11:29.000] Right, exactly [11:29.000 --> 11:31.000] And the reason [11:31.000 --> 11:33.000] Why they said they pulled me over [11:33.000 --> 11:35.000] Was they said I was [11:35.000 --> 11:37.000] Driving too close [11:37.000 --> 11:39.000] To the car in front of me [11:39.000 --> 11:41.000] And I'm saying to myself [11:41.000 --> 11:43.000] How could I be driving too close [11:43.000 --> 11:45.000] If you're six or seven car lanes behind me [11:47.000 --> 11:49.000] Problem with you [11:49.000 --> 11:51.000] How could I possibly tell [11:51.000 --> 11:53.000] If I'm traveling closely [11:53.000 --> 11:55.000] Behind the car that's in front of me [11:55.000 --> 11:57.000] And I'm seven cars in front of you [11:57.000 --> 11:59.000] Here's the deal [12:01.000 --> 12:03.000] If you have to go to the merits [12:03.000 --> 12:05.000] You're going to lose [12:05.000 --> 12:07.000] Yeah [12:07.000 --> 12:09.000] Going to lose every time because [12:09.000 --> 12:11.000] The prosecutor is going to distort everything [12:11.000 --> 12:13.000] The judge is going to [12:13.000 --> 12:15.000] Not let exculpatory [12:15.000 --> 12:17.000] Evidence be heard during the trial [12:17.000 --> 12:19.000] By the jury [12:19.000 --> 12:21.000] You have to nail these guys [12:21.000 --> 12:23.000] On what they do wrong [12:23.000 --> 12:25.000] Okay, how they break the law [12:25.000 --> 12:27.000] Yeah, understand the position of this [12:27.000 --> 12:29.000] Judge [12:29.000 --> 12:31.000] He sits there all day every day [12:31.000 --> 12:33.000] And he has one guy [12:33.000 --> 12:35.000] After the other [12:35.000 --> 12:37.000] After the other, after the other [12:37.000 --> 12:39.000] All come in before him [12:39.000 --> 12:41.000] How menacing as the driven snow [12:41.000 --> 12:43.000] And after a while [12:43.000 --> 12:45.000] You know, he kind of gets [12:45.000 --> 12:47.000] Immune to it [12:47.000 --> 12:49.000] It's not going to make much difference [12:49.000 --> 12:51.000] What you say [12:51.000 --> 12:53.000] If you can't nail them on [12:53.000 --> 12:55.000] You said this earlier to me [12:55.000 --> 12:57.000] Right, so what would be my [12:57.000 --> 12:59.000] You know, what would be [12:59.000 --> 13:01.000] My remedy [13:01.000 --> 13:03.000] What could I possibly do [13:03.000 --> 13:05.000] To get them at what they [13:05.000 --> 13:07.000] Don't have near enough information [13:07.000 --> 13:09.000] Is there a good written down [13:09.000 --> 13:11.000] A narrative [13:11.000 --> 13:13.000] No [13:13.000 --> 13:15.000] Should be the first thing [13:15.000 --> 13:17.000] You do [13:17.000 --> 13:19.000] A good written narrative [13:19.000 --> 13:21.000] And Jacqueline gave me the best [13:21.000 --> 13:23.000] Narrative I've ever got [13:23.000 --> 13:25.000] It's better than [13:25.000 --> 13:27.000] A recording [13:27.000 --> 13:29.000] They can complain about a recording [13:29.000 --> 13:31.000] But a written narrative [13:31.000 --> 13:33.000] Is a [13:33.000 --> 13:35.000] Verifiable document [13:35.000 --> 13:37.000] You can go back and check [13:37.000 --> 13:39.000] And recheck every word [13:39.000 --> 13:41.000] Yeah, and when you're writing it [13:41.000 --> 13:43.000] You kind of remember things a little clearer [13:43.000 --> 13:45.000] I found when I was writing mine [13:45.000 --> 13:47.000] All these details I didn't remember originally [13:47.000 --> 13:49.000] Kind of were coming up as I was writing it [13:49.000 --> 13:51.000] Definitely helps, I think [13:51.000 --> 13:53.000] Exactly [13:53.000 --> 13:55.000] It helps you organize your thoughts [13:55.000 --> 13:57.000] It helps you remember things [13:57.000 --> 13:59.000] It brings everything out [13:59.000 --> 14:01.000] Clearer, with more focus [14:01.000 --> 14:03.000] So that you can [14:03.000 --> 14:05.000] Prepare where you're going to go [14:05.000 --> 14:07.000] From here, and also the other thing about [14:07.000 --> 14:09.000] Writing a narrative, Daniel [14:09.000 --> 14:11.000] Is that it takes the emotion [14:11.000 --> 14:13.000] Out of [14:13.000 --> 14:15.000] What has happened [14:15.000 --> 14:17.000] As far as [14:17.000 --> 14:19.000] You get it out [14:19.000 --> 14:21.000] You feel the feelings [14:21.000 --> 14:23.000] I think people [14:23.000 --> 14:25.000] They don't want to write narratives [14:25.000 --> 14:27.000] Because they don't want to have to relive the event [14:27.000 --> 14:29.000] And things like that [14:29.000 --> 14:31.000] And I know that can be a difficult thing [14:31.000 --> 14:33.000] But once you get all that out of you [14:33.000 --> 14:35.000] And you've got all the facts [14:35.000 --> 14:37.000] Then when you go to formulate your strategy [14:37.000 --> 14:39.000] To go after these guys [14:39.000 --> 14:41.000] You're doing it with a clear head [14:41.000 --> 14:43.000] Unemotionally [14:43.000 --> 14:45.000] And you're not making [14:45.000 --> 14:47.000] Emotional decisions [14:47.000 --> 14:49.000] Because you're so angry [14:49.000 --> 14:51.000] And you've just got to have vengeance [14:51.000 --> 14:53.000] Or whatever [14:53.000 --> 14:55.000] You can make more clear, responsible decisions [14:55.000 --> 14:57.000] Yes, and make it [14:57.000 --> 14:59.000] Facts [14:59.000 --> 15:01.000] I read a book on Supreme Court [15:01.000 --> 15:03.000] And they were talking about Rehnquist [15:03.000 --> 15:05.000] And one of the things his law clerks [15:05.000 --> 15:07.000] Commented about it on him [15:07.000 --> 15:09.000] Him with [15:09.000 --> 15:11.000] Was that when they would give him a paper [15:11.000 --> 15:13.000] He was just ruthless [15:13.000 --> 15:15.000] In taking out everything [15:15.000 --> 15:17.000] That he called the reasoning [15:19.000 --> 15:21.000] Anything that was reasoning [15:21.000 --> 15:23.000] He just took it out [15:23.000 --> 15:25.000] Go to the facts, go to the issues [15:25.000 --> 15:27.000] And don't explain [15:27.000 --> 15:29.000] What you're up for, send it to me [15:29.000 --> 15:31.000] I'll go through it [15:31.000 --> 15:33.000] And mark out the reasoning, send it back to you [15:33.000 --> 15:35.000] The second time you go over it [15:35.000 --> 15:37.000] You will be surprised that the details will come out [15:37.000 --> 15:39.000] And I suspect when I go over it [15:39.000 --> 15:41.000] I'll ask you questions [15:41.000 --> 15:43.000] About things you didn't think were important [15:43.000 --> 15:45.000] That [15:45.000 --> 15:47.000] I will [15:47.000 --> 15:49.000] And also, Daniel [15:49.000 --> 15:51.000] Read the code of criminal procedure [15:51.000 --> 15:53.000] For your state [15:53.000 --> 15:55.000] Yeah, for North Carolina [15:55.000 --> 15:57.000] It's really small [15:57.000 --> 15:59.000] And on our website [15:59.000 --> 16:01.000] Ruleoflawradio.com [16:01.000 --> 16:03.000] There is a link in the navigation bar [16:03.000 --> 16:05.000] To criminal procedure codes [16:05.000 --> 16:07.000] And penal codes [16:07.000 --> 16:09.000] For every state [16:09.000 --> 16:11.000] Yeah, just go to chapter 14 and 15 [16:11.000 --> 16:13.000] Of the general statutes [16:13.000 --> 16:15.000] In North Carolina [16:15.000 --> 16:17.000] And read them through, don't try to understand them [16:17.000 --> 16:19.000] Don't try to make sense of them [16:19.000 --> 16:21.000] Just read them through quickly [16:21.000 --> 16:23.000] And then go back and read through them again [16:23.000 --> 16:25.000] Right [16:25.000 --> 16:27.000] Are you familiar with the 1099 OID? [16:27.000 --> 16:29.000] Yes [16:29.000 --> 16:31.000] But not enough to be able to [16:31.000 --> 16:33.000] Discuss it [16:33.000 --> 16:35.000] We don't go there here [16:35.000 --> 16:37.000] We're not commercial law experts [16:37.000 --> 16:39.000] I'm sorry [16:39.000 --> 16:41.000] I could give you some uninformed [16:41.000 --> 16:43.000] Opinions [16:43.000 --> 16:45.000] I am really good at uninformed opinions [16:45.000 --> 16:47.000] Let me ask you this [16:47.000 --> 16:49.000] How would you feel [16:49.000 --> 16:51.000] About who was used on this case [16:51.000 --> 16:53.000] What I just told you about [16:53.000 --> 16:55.000] With a 1099 OID? [16:55.000 --> 16:57.000] Wouldn't [16:57.000 --> 16:59.000] Even consider it [16:59.000 --> 17:01.000] There's a whole [17:01.000 --> 17:03.000] Lot of other things you can do that are more certain [17:03.000 --> 17:05.000] Daniel [17:05.000 --> 17:07.000] The best resource that I can [17:07.000 --> 17:09.000] Point you to [17:09.000 --> 17:11.000] To learn about the 1099 OID [17:11.000 --> 17:13.000] Thing is [17:13.000 --> 17:15.000] Winston [17:15.000 --> 17:17.000] Winston Strout [17:17.000 --> 17:19.000] And I don't have his website right now [17:19.000 --> 17:21.000] But apparently he's got a DVD [17:21.000 --> 17:23.000] Or something, a book or a DVD [17:23.000 --> 17:25.000] I believe it's a DVD [17:25.000 --> 17:27.000] Stacks of DVDs [17:27.000 --> 17:29.000] And there's one in particular [17:29.000 --> 17:31.000] That discusses that [17:31.000 --> 17:33.000] That Michael Bider had recommended [17:33.000 --> 17:35.000] At the time [17:35.000 --> 17:37.000] So I would refer you to [17:37.000 --> 17:39.000] Winston Strout for the 1099 OID [17:39.000 --> 17:41.000] We're statutory people [17:41.000 --> 17:43.000] We're criminal procedure [17:43.000 --> 17:45.000] Due process statutory [17:45.000 --> 17:47.000] People, we're not really the commercial [17:47.000 --> 17:49.000] Parts [17:49.000 --> 17:51.000] So [17:51.000 --> 17:53.000] Right now [17:53.000 --> 17:55.000] We say I'm just [17:55.000 --> 17:57.000] At a loss [17:57.000 --> 17:59.000] Like you said I'm going to lose [17:59.000 --> 18:01.000] If I go to trial with it [18:01.000 --> 18:03.000] On the merits yes [18:03.000 --> 18:05.000] And honestly Daniel [18:05.000 --> 18:07.000] This 1099 OID thing has absolutely [18:07.000 --> 18:09.000] Nothing to do with your case [18:09.000 --> 18:11.000] That's a totally separate deal [18:11.000 --> 18:13.000] Right [18:13.000 --> 18:15.000] I understand [18:15.000 --> 18:17.000] That is a whole [18:17.000 --> 18:19.000] Another realm right there [18:19.000 --> 18:21.000] We've got a lot of callers [18:21.000 --> 18:23.000] We really need to move along [18:23.000 --> 18:25.000] Far on the criminal side [18:25.000 --> 18:27.000] Far on the factual side [18:27.000 --> 18:29.000] So Daniel look [18:29.000 --> 18:31.000] You're not at a loss [18:31.000 --> 18:33.000] You're not out of luck [18:33.000 --> 18:35.000] When is your trial? [18:35.000 --> 18:37.000] February 9th [18:37.000 --> 18:39.000] That's the first appearance [18:39.000 --> 18:41.000] So you've got a few weeks [18:41.000 --> 18:43.000] Write your narrative [18:43.000 --> 18:45.000] Okay thank you very much [18:45.000 --> 18:47.000] Okay thank you Daniel [18:47.000 --> 18:49.000] You've got some time so don't worry [18:49.000 --> 18:51.000] Alright we're going to move on [18:51.000 --> 18:53.000] We've got more callers [18:53.000 --> 18:55.000] George from Texas who's been holding [18:55.000 --> 18:57.000] Quite a while and then we'll go to Wendy [18:57.000 --> 18:59.000] Okay George [18:59.000 --> 19:01.000] George you're going to have to call back in [19:01.000 --> 19:03.000] Your line is [19:03.000 --> 19:05.000] Yeah [19:05.000 --> 19:07.000] You're going to have to call back in okay [19:07.000 --> 19:09.000] Okay [19:09.000 --> 19:11.000] Alright sorry [19:11.000 --> 19:13.000] I'm in Tennessee [19:13.000 --> 19:15.000] Hey Wendy thank you for calling in [19:15.000 --> 19:17.000] What's on your mind tonight? [19:17.000 --> 19:19.000] Hey Deborah, hey Randy [19:19.000 --> 19:21.000] I called Randy earlier today after [19:21.000 --> 19:23.000] We took a trip to the courthouse [19:23.000 --> 19:25.000] For a court appearance [19:25.000 --> 19:27.000] And [19:27.000 --> 19:29.000] Our judge was a no show [19:29.000 --> 19:31.000] He didn't appear [19:31.000 --> 19:33.000] For our hearing [19:33.000 --> 19:35.000] The judge was a no show [19:35.000 --> 19:37.000] For a hearing? [19:37.000 --> 19:39.000] Yes [19:39.000 --> 19:41.000] Well there's more to it [19:41.000 --> 19:43.000] Not only did the judge [19:43.000 --> 19:45.000] Not show up [19:45.000 --> 19:47.000] But the other side didn't show up either [19:47.000 --> 19:49.000] What? [19:49.000 --> 19:51.000] So they knew [19:51.000 --> 19:53.000] That makes it an abusive process [19:55.000 --> 19:57.000] The judge orders you to be at a hearing [19:57.000 --> 19:59.000] And then [19:59.000 --> 20:01.000] Tells the other side they don't have to come [20:01.000 --> 20:03.000] The judge doesn't show up so you take all your time [20:03.000 --> 20:05.000] And [20:05.000 --> 20:07.000] Cost of going down there [20:07.000 --> 20:09.000] And no one's there [20:09.000 --> 20:11.000] That's abusive process [20:11.000 --> 20:13.000] Yeah but Randy wouldn't you have to prove that the judge [20:13.000 --> 20:15.000] Informed the other side [20:15.000 --> 20:17.000] I mean it could just be a coincidence that [20:17.000 --> 20:19.000] They both flaked on the same day [20:19.000 --> 20:21.000] No Wendy understands this [20:21.000 --> 20:23.000] Nah let them [20:23.000 --> 20:25.000] If that was a coincidence [20:25.000 --> 20:27.000] Tell it to the grand jury Bubba [20:27.000 --> 20:29.000] Yeah really [20:29.000 --> 20:31.000] Yeah really [20:31.000 --> 20:33.000] It keeps going back to the same thing [20:33.000 --> 20:35.000] File criminal charges against them [20:35.000 --> 20:37.000] And we'll talk about that in a few questions later [20:37.000 --> 20:39.000] Yeah [20:39.000 --> 20:41.000] There was supposed to be about 30 attorneys [20:41.000 --> 20:43.000] To appear [20:43.000 --> 20:45.000] All 30 attorneys did not appear [20:45.000 --> 20:47.000] Okay this case [20:47.000 --> 20:49.000] Was about a counterclaim [20:49.000 --> 20:51.000] That could have just been a coincidence [20:51.000 --> 20:53.000] Oh right [20:53.000 --> 20:55.000] 30 [20:55.000 --> 20:57.000] Big coincidence [20:57.000 --> 20:59.000] But we searched all the courtrooms [20:59.000 --> 21:01.000] To make sure there wasn't [21:01.000 --> 21:03.000] Another courtroom [21:03.000 --> 21:05.000] I went downstairs [21:05.000 --> 21:07.000] To the clerk's office [21:07.000 --> 21:09.000] And I said I want to see my file [21:09.000 --> 21:11.000] So I pulled it over to the paper where [21:11.000 --> 21:13.000] Oh wait a minute Wendy [21:13.000 --> 21:15.000] The clerk had your file? [21:15.000 --> 21:17.000] Yeah [21:17.000 --> 21:19.000] The court coordinator didn't have your file? [21:19.000 --> 21:21.000] No [21:21.000 --> 21:23.000] The court clerk did [21:23.000 --> 21:25.000] Well if the court clerk had your file [21:25.000 --> 21:27.000] They knew well in advance [21:27.000 --> 21:29.000] There would be no hearing [21:29.000 --> 21:31.000] Because they always [21:31.000 --> 21:33.000] Get the paperwork to the judge [21:33.000 --> 21:35.000] A couple days earlier so he can look over it [21:35.000 --> 21:37.000] If I'm going somewhere [21:37.000 --> 21:39.000] Where there's going to be a hearing [21:39.000 --> 21:41.000] The clerk never has the file, the judge does [21:41.000 --> 21:43.000] So if the [21:43.000 --> 21:45.000] That may be [21:45.000 --> 21:47.000] Because the judge [21:47.000 --> 21:49.000] Had already received the whole file [21:49.000 --> 21:51.000] About a month ago [21:51.000 --> 21:53.000] They had [21:53.000 --> 21:55.000] Been at certified mail to him [21:55.000 --> 21:57.000] Well generally [21:57.000 --> 21:59.000] It's a standard procedure [21:59.000 --> 22:01.000] That when a hearing is being held [22:01.000 --> 22:03.000] It makes no difference what you send to him [22:03.000 --> 22:05.000] He's going to want to have in [22:05.000 --> 22:07.000] His hand the file [22:07.000 --> 22:09.000] That the clerk has because that's the only one [22:09.000 --> 22:11.000] That matters [22:11.000 --> 22:13.000] And they will [22:13.000 --> 22:15.000] Generally several days prior [22:15.000 --> 22:17.000] To the hearings [22:17.000 --> 22:19.000] They'll send all of the files to the judge [22:19.000 --> 22:21.000] So he has a chance to review them [22:21.000 --> 22:23.000] Yeah [22:23.000 --> 22:25.000] If the clerk had that file [22:25.000 --> 22:27.000] They knew well in advance the judge is not [22:27.000 --> 22:29.000] Going to be there [22:29.000 --> 22:31.000] And we know they knew that anyway [22:31.000 --> 22:33.000] But this is a way to establish it [22:33.000 --> 22:35.000] This is prima facie [22:35.000 --> 22:37.000] Is that [22:37.000 --> 22:39.000] Is that criminal charges [22:39.000 --> 22:41.000] Randy? Abuse of process [22:41.000 --> 22:43.000] Abuse of process [22:43.000 --> 22:45.000] Now what exactly is abuse [22:45.000 --> 22:47.000] Of process? Where [22:47.000 --> 22:49.000] Process is issued [22:49.000 --> 22:51.000] Say an attorney sets a hearing [22:51.000 --> 22:53.000] And has [22:53.000 --> 22:55.000] No intention of showing up [22:55.000 --> 22:57.000] And [22:57.000 --> 22:59.000] Just the day before [22:59.000 --> 23:01.000] The hearing calls the judge and makes up [23:01.000 --> 23:03.000] A bunch of crap [23:03.000 --> 23:05.000] Ola for the judge [23:05.000 --> 23:07.000] Oh I fell down and broke my neck [23:07.000 --> 23:09.000] And so the judge cancels [23:09.000 --> 23:11.000] The hearing [23:11.000 --> 23:13.000] Then if you're the one that set the hearing [23:13.000 --> 23:15.000] And then you got it canceled for false [23:15.000 --> 23:17.000] Reason then the other party [23:17.000 --> 23:19.000] You don't notify the other party and they show up [23:19.000 --> 23:21.000] Nobody's there. That's abuse of process [23:21.000 --> 23:23.000] Yeah [23:23.000 --> 23:25.000] See the judge didn't call Wendy and say [23:25.000 --> 23:27.000] Hey Wendy is this a nice [23:27.000 --> 23:29.000] Uh [23:29.000 --> 23:31.000] Convenient time for you to show up at the court [23:31.000 --> 23:33.000] Did they [23:33.000 --> 23:35.000] Did they subpoena you? Did they [23:35.000 --> 23:37.000] Did they [23:37.000 --> 23:39.000] Before they set the hearing did they contact you [23:39.000 --> 23:41.000] Wendy? Oh [23:41.000 --> 23:43.000] Of course not. Yeah see they just [23:43.000 --> 23:45.000] They said be here this day this time [23:45.000 --> 23:47.000] Absolutely. Now had [23:47.000 --> 23:49.000] Had the other attorney [23:49.000 --> 23:51.000] Called you and said what's a good time [23:51.000 --> 23:53.000] For you and you said well this is a good time [23:53.000 --> 23:55.000] And both of you agree [23:55.000 --> 23:57.000] On a time and then [23:57.000 --> 23:59.000] One of you set a time [23:59.000 --> 24:01.000] Then if somebody didn't show up something [24:01.000 --> 24:03.000] Happened you couldn't blame the judge [24:03.000 --> 24:05.000] This time the judge ordered [24:05.000 --> 24:07.000] You to be there on this day at this time [24:07.000 --> 24:09.000] And he [24:09.000 --> 24:11.000] Wasn't there and he knew he wasn't going to be there [24:11.000 --> 24:13.000] So he [24:13.000 --> 24:15.000] Exercised his authority [24:15.000 --> 24:17.000] To force you to come to a hearing [24:17.000 --> 24:19.000] That he knew he wasn't going to have [24:19.000 --> 24:21.000] That's abuse of [24:21.000 --> 24:23.000] Process is the summons procedure [24:23.000 --> 24:25.000] Wendy [24:25.000 --> 24:27.000] And you know what Randy this reminds me [24:27.000 --> 24:29.000] Wendy didn't you say [24:29.000 --> 24:31.000] I think it was you one time [24:31.000 --> 24:33.000] You showed up for a hearing [24:33.000 --> 24:35.000] The courthouse was locked [24:35.000 --> 24:37.000] Everybody had left or something [24:37.000 --> 24:39.000] Oh yeah yeah the judge [24:39.000 --> 24:41.000] Had an emergency hearing [24:41.000 --> 24:43.000] In another court [24:43.000 --> 24:45.000] And they shut down the whole courthouse [24:45.000 --> 24:47.000] Everybody left she couldn't even get in the door [24:47.000 --> 24:49.000] No I think they saw her orange hair [24:49.000 --> 24:51.000] And said oh no [24:51.000 --> 24:53.000] Hit the road [24:53.000 --> 24:55.000] Oh my goodness [24:55.000 --> 24:57.000] Well [24:57.000 --> 24:59.000] Also Deborah [24:59.000 --> 25:01.000] We got served papers [25:01.000 --> 25:03.000] Two days ago [25:03.000 --> 25:05.000] From the county register of [25:05.000 --> 25:07.000] Deeks [25:07.000 --> 25:09.000] She's bringing suit against us [25:09.000 --> 25:11.000] Because we have filed our negative vehemence [25:11.000 --> 25:13.000] Counterclaims into the [25:13.000 --> 25:15.000] Open records [25:15.000 --> 25:17.000] Of these public records [25:17.000 --> 25:19.000] And we have filed [25:19.000 --> 25:21.000] The defaults and everything [25:21.000 --> 25:23.000] And the last paper to be filed was [25:23.000 --> 25:25.000] The nil to six [25:25.000 --> 25:27.000] Means they said nothing [25:27.000 --> 25:29.000] Well when you file that [25:29.000 --> 25:31.000] Into the open records [25:31.000 --> 25:33.000] The public records excuse me [25:33.000 --> 25:35.000] It becomes what they consider [25:35.000 --> 25:37.000] A secret maritime link [25:37.000 --> 25:39.000] Okay [25:39.000 --> 25:41.000] We didn't know this at the time [25:41.000 --> 25:43.000] Okay but in these court documents [25:43.000 --> 25:45.000] And she references [25:45.000 --> 25:47.000] Our assistant district attorney [25:47.000 --> 25:49.000] Who's been prosecuting us for two years [25:49.000 --> 25:51.000] Now [25:51.000 --> 25:53.000] Couldn't finance his home [25:53.000 --> 25:55.000] Because of this lien [25:57.000 --> 25:59.000] Interesting so [25:59.000 --> 26:01.000] Now say this again [26:01.000 --> 26:03.000] A secret maritime lien [26:03.000 --> 26:05.000] Yes [26:05.000 --> 26:07.000] In the public record [26:07.000 --> 26:09.000] Like a judgment [26:09.000 --> 26:11.000] This was a final judgment [26:11.000 --> 26:13.000] Of nil to six [26:13.000 --> 26:15.000] They said nothing [26:15.000 --> 26:17.000] They didn't answer our [26:17.000 --> 26:19.000] Counterclaims [26:19.000 --> 26:21.000] They called us [26:21.000 --> 26:23.000] And this is the last step [26:23.000 --> 26:25.000] And it was through the maritime lien [26:25.000 --> 26:27.000] Because we said they owed us foul money [26:27.000 --> 26:29.000] They didn't question it [26:29.000 --> 26:31.000] They agreed to it [26:31.000 --> 26:33.000] What was the cause of [26:33.000 --> 26:35.000] Action [26:35.000 --> 26:37.000] That the clerk [26:37.000 --> 26:39.000] Filed against you [26:39.000 --> 26:41.000] Well it was [26:41.000 --> 26:43.000] The cause of action she filed against us [26:43.000 --> 26:45.000] It was [26:45.000 --> 26:47.000] It was her mistake [26:47.000 --> 26:49.000] They said [26:49.000 --> 26:51.000] Wait no she sued you said that [26:51.000 --> 26:53.000] She sued you [26:53.000 --> 26:55.000] She sued [26:55.000 --> 26:57.000] She filed a suit against us [26:57.000 --> 26:59.000] In civil suit [26:59.000 --> 27:01.000] Wanting relief [27:01.000 --> 27:03.000] Because [27:03.000 --> 27:05.000] She had mistakenly [27:05.000 --> 27:09.000] She should have filed [27:09.000 --> 27:11.000] Oh [27:11.000 --> 27:13.000] That goes to screws [27:13.000 --> 27:15.000] I would say she screwed [27:15.000 --> 27:17.000] She's whining about making [27:17.000 --> 27:19.000] A mistake [27:19.000 --> 27:21.000] And saying that the court should [27:21.000 --> 27:23.000] Grant her relief [27:23.000 --> 27:25.000] Because she made a mistake [27:25.000 --> 27:27.000] Yeah [27:27.000 --> 27:29.000] Screws versus US [27:29.000 --> 27:31.000] Okay [27:31.000 --> 27:33.000] If a public official violates [27:33.000 --> 27:35.000] A ruling of this court [27:35.000 --> 27:37.000] And he be [27:37.000 --> 27:39.000] Sane [27:39.000 --> 27:41.000] He may not be heard to say he knows not [27:41.000 --> 27:43.000] What he does [27:43.000 --> 27:45.000] She cannot claim mistake [27:47.000 --> 27:49.000] I can claim mistake [27:49.000 --> 27:51.000] You can claim mistake [27:51.000 --> 27:53.000] But [27:53.000 --> 27:55.000] We're not a public official [27:55.000 --> 27:57.000] They cannot [27:57.000 --> 27:59.000] They're expected to know their job of all people [27:59.000 --> 28:01.000] The clerk is [28:01.000 --> 28:03.000] Expected to know her job [28:03.000 --> 28:05.000] And if she made a mistake [28:05.000 --> 28:07.000] Then that's what her bond is for [28:07.000 --> 28:09.000] Wow [28:09.000 --> 28:11.000] Yuck yuck [28:11.000 --> 28:13.000] So [28:13.000 --> 28:15.000] The attorney that represents her [28:15.000 --> 28:17.000] Is the city's attorney [28:17.000 --> 28:19.000] Not the county's attorney [28:19.000 --> 28:21.000] Is the city's attorney [28:21.000 --> 28:23.000] That's even better [28:23.000 --> 28:25.000] And she's a county employee [28:25.000 --> 28:27.000] Yes [28:27.000 --> 28:29.000] In her [28:29.000 --> 28:31.000] Official capacity [28:31.000 --> 28:33.000] Is how she's coming to us [28:33.000 --> 28:35.000] Wow [28:35.000 --> 28:37.000] Wait a minute [28:37.000 --> 28:39.000] How could she [28:39.000 --> 28:41.000] That's too [28:41.000 --> 28:43.000] Somehow that sounds too easy [28:47.000 --> 28:49.000] You might do a little checking [28:49.000 --> 28:51.000] And see how she got there [28:51.000 --> 28:53.000] Maybe the county attorney has another position [28:55.000 --> 28:57.000] You might have been hired [28:57.000 --> 28:59.000] The county attorney may have been hired by the county [28:59.000 --> 29:01.000] But yeah [29:01.000 --> 29:03.000] The county attorney has [29:03.000 --> 29:05.000] The county has an attorney [29:05.000 --> 29:07.000] But unfortunately [29:07.000 --> 29:09.000] He also has a lien on him [29:09.000 --> 29:11.000] And he's filed in that register [29:11.000 --> 29:13.000] Who filed the lien on him [29:13.000 --> 29:15.000] Wendy [29:15.000 --> 29:17.000] You [29:19.000 --> 29:21.000] Wendy [29:21.000 --> 29:23.000] You are something else [29:23.000 --> 29:25.000] Jacqueline [29:25.000 --> 29:27.000] Wendy here [29:27.000 --> 29:29.000] Wendy [29:29.000 --> 29:31.000] She's a long time listener [29:31.000 --> 29:33.000] A long time caller from the beginning [29:33.000 --> 29:35.000] Listen, we're cutting the break [29:35.000 --> 29:37.000] Wendy, Jacqueline, both of y'all [29:37.000 --> 29:39.000] Stay on the line, we've got John from Ohio [29:39.000 --> 29:41.000] Callers, call in 512-646-1984 [29:41.000 --> 29:43.000] I'm going to give a little background [29:43.000 --> 29:45.000] On Wendy here [29:45.000 --> 29:47.000] Wendy started listening [29:47.000 --> 29:49.000] Think of me, 5 foot 2 with orange hair [29:49.000 --> 29:51.000] Wendy started listening to our show [29:51.000 --> 29:53.000] Never did any of this stuff before [29:53.000 --> 29:55.000] We'll be right back [29:55.000 --> 29:57.000] Really? 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Mm-hmm [31:13.000 --> 31:15.000] We had a great time [31:15.000 --> 31:17.000] Talking about politics, you know [31:17.000 --> 31:19.000] And I thought [31:19.000 --> 31:21.000] When Mr. Cheney was paying [31:21.000 --> 31:23.000] For the tab [31:23.000 --> 31:25.000] I saw a big red stain [31:25.000 --> 31:27.000] On his wall [31:27.000 --> 31:29.000] And I was thinking to myself [31:29.000 --> 31:31.000] Heavens, you know [31:31.000 --> 31:33.000] The war must be going [31:33.000 --> 31:35.000] Then [31:35.000 --> 31:37.000] Mm-hmm [31:37.000 --> 31:39.000] It's real red money [31:41.000 --> 31:43.000] Red money is here [31:43.000 --> 31:45.000] It's worth it's waiting [31:45.000 --> 31:47.000] It's real red money [31:49.000 --> 31:51.000] Out on a soldier's desk [31:51.000 --> 31:53.000] Cause the money's so red [31:53.000 --> 31:55.000] It's red money [31:57.000 --> 31:59.000] It's all soaked up in blood [31:59.000 --> 32:01.000] With jacks and boots [32:01.000 --> 32:03.000] And the money's red money [32:05.000 --> 32:07.000] It used to be so green [32:09.000 --> 32:11.000] Green as money that I ever see [32:11.000 --> 32:13.000] They used to back it up with silver and gold [32:15.000 --> 32:17.000] Way back in the days of old [32:19.000 --> 32:21.000] Oh, mommy, oh, mommy [32:23.000 --> 32:25.000] Please protect us from the bloody commies [32:27.000 --> 32:29.000] Free republic that I used to know [32:31.000 --> 32:33.000] Starting to look just like the manifesto [32:35.000 --> 32:37.000] Whoa, look at all that red money [32:37.000 --> 32:39.000] Whoa, look at all that red money [32:45.000 --> 32:47.000] Red money [32:53.000 --> 32:55.000] Red money [32:55.000 --> 32:57.000] I come on my cover [32:57.000 --> 32:59.000] By this gun [32:59.000 --> 33:01.000] Everybody get some red money [33:03.000 --> 33:05.000] Red money [33:05.000 --> 33:07.000] It costs right [33:07.000 --> 33:09.000] To prop up the fiat red money [33:11.000 --> 33:13.000] Two billion a day [33:13.000 --> 33:15.000] Just to keep a float [33:15.000 --> 33:17.000] Red China's got us right [33:17.000 --> 33:19.000] By the throat with red money [33:21.000 --> 33:23.000] The banks get the gold plus the free ride [33:23.000 --> 33:25.000] Funding wars from both sides [33:25.000 --> 33:27.000] With red money [33:29.000 --> 33:31.000] Red money used to be so green [33:31.000 --> 33:33.000] Green as money that I ever see [33:35.000 --> 33:37.000] They used to back it up with silver and gold [33:39.000 --> 33:41.000] Way back in the days of old [33:43.000 --> 33:45.000] Oh, mommy, oh, mommy [33:47.000 --> 33:49.000] Please protect us from the bloody commies [33:51.000 --> 33:53.000] A free republic that I used to know [33:55.000 --> 33:57.000] Starting to look just like the manifesto [33:57.000 --> 33:59.000] Whoa, look at all that red money [34:03.000 --> 34:05.000] Red money [34:09.000 --> 34:11.000] Red money [34:15.000 --> 34:17.000] Red money [34:17.000 --> 34:19.000] The manifesto plank [34:19.000 --> 34:21.000] Is a private central bank [34:21.000 --> 34:23.000] Printing red money [34:23.000 --> 34:25.000] Red money [34:25.000 --> 34:27.000] Red money [34:27.000 --> 34:29.000] Really got some nerve [34:29.000 --> 34:31.000] Down at the federal reserve [34:31.000 --> 34:33.000] Printing red money [34:33.000 --> 34:35.000] Red money [34:35.000 --> 34:37.000] The federal fraction reserve [34:37.000 --> 34:39.000] The private bank was really who they served [34:39.000 --> 34:41.000] With red money [34:41.000 --> 34:43.000] Red money [35:11.000 --> 35:13.000] Mm-hmm. [35:13.000 --> 35:15.000] Mm-hmm. [35:15.000 --> 35:19.000] Mm-hmm. [35:19.000 --> 35:23.000] Mm-hmm. [35:23.000 --> 35:33.000] Wow. [35:53.000 --> 35:57.000] Okay. [36:23.000 --> 36:27.000] Mm-hmm. [36:27.000 --> 36:41.000] Yep. [36:57.000 --> 37:01.000] Hello. [37:01.000 --> 37:03.000] Yes, George. [37:03.000 --> 37:05.000] How good of you to call. [37:05.000 --> 37:07.000] Yeah. [37:07.000 --> 37:09.000] Had dinner with the Cheney's last week. [37:09.000 --> 37:11.000] Mm-hmm. [37:11.000 --> 37:13.000] All right, we are back. [37:13.000 --> 37:15.000] Rule of law. Sorry, folks. [37:15.000 --> 37:17.000] A little bit of technical difficulties here in the studio. [37:17.000 --> 37:19.000] Okay. [37:19.000 --> 37:21.000] Okay. [37:21.000 --> 37:23.000] Okay. [37:23.000 --> 37:25.000] Okay. [37:25.000 --> 37:27.000] Okay. [37:27.000 --> 37:29.000] Okay. [37:29.000 --> 37:31.000] Jacqueline, I was talking about [37:31.000 --> 37:33.000] Wendy. [37:33.000 --> 37:35.000] Okay. [37:35.000 --> 37:37.000] Wendy, she is [37:37.000 --> 37:39.000] the, you know, [37:39.000 --> 37:41.000] is the primary example of [37:41.000 --> 37:43.000] one of the main reasons of why we're doing this show. [37:43.000 --> 37:45.000] Okay. [37:45.000 --> 37:47.000] She never really did any of this kind of thing before, [37:47.000 --> 37:49.000] and she started listening to the show [37:49.000 --> 37:51.000] and employing Randy's techniques, [37:51.000 --> 37:53.000] and now she is [37:53.000 --> 37:55.000] in Tennessee, okay. [37:55.000 --> 37:57.000] Now she's pulling Wendy's. [37:57.000 --> 37:59.000] She's taken down judges, and we've coined a phrase [37:59.000 --> 38:01.000] here on rule of law radio called [38:01.000 --> 38:03.000] pulling a Wendy, okay. [38:03.000 --> 38:05.000] Because one of the main, yes, [38:05.000 --> 38:07.000] because one of the main issues is [38:07.000 --> 38:09.000] how do you get to the grand jury to file your [38:09.000 --> 38:11.000] criminal complaints against public officials [38:11.000 --> 38:13.000] and bypass [38:13.000 --> 38:15.000] the prosecutor, okay, and we've come up [38:15.000 --> 38:17.000] with all kinds of creative ways, [38:17.000 --> 38:19.000] and here's what Wendy has done. [38:19.000 --> 38:21.000] All right, she, what she has done [38:21.000 --> 38:23.000] is she makes up her criminal [38:23.000 --> 38:25.000] complaints and [38:25.000 --> 38:27.000] made like 50 envelopes, [38:27.000 --> 38:29.000] at least, and [38:29.000 --> 38:31.000] then she went to the, she found out [38:31.000 --> 38:33.000] the day of the empaneling of the grand [38:33.000 --> 38:35.000] jury in her [38:35.000 --> 38:37.000] town, right, and so she dressed [38:37.000 --> 38:39.000] up in a suit and everything, [38:39.000 --> 38:41.000] you know, business clothes, and she went [38:41.000 --> 38:43.000] down to the courthouse with [38:43.000 --> 38:45.000] her packets, like 50 [38:45.000 --> 38:47.000] or so packets, and [38:47.000 --> 38:49.000] when people were standing in line [38:49.000 --> 38:51.000] for jury empanelment, you know, for jury [38:51.000 --> 38:53.000] screening or whatever, she was like, oh, are you [38:53.000 --> 38:55.000] here for jury duty? And then she, [38:55.000 --> 38:57.000] she's like acting like [38:57.000 --> 38:59.000] she works for the court or [38:59.000 --> 39:01.000] something, you know, like she's an employee of the courthouse [39:01.000 --> 39:03.000] and she's like, oh, you here for jury duty? Here, [39:03.000 --> 39:05.000] this is for you, you know, like it's an information [39:05.000 --> 39:07.000] packet or something for the [39:07.000 --> 39:09.000] prospective jurors, [39:09.000 --> 39:11.000] you know, and so she was handing [39:11.000 --> 39:13.000] them out to everyone who was a prospective [39:13.000 --> 39:15.000] juror, so that way, [39:15.000 --> 39:17.000] for sure, for sure, the people who [39:17.000 --> 39:19.000] actually got empaneled [39:19.000 --> 39:21.000] were, would actually get [39:21.000 --> 39:23.000] the packets of the criminal complaint, [39:23.000 --> 39:25.000] so she's done that, and [39:25.000 --> 39:27.000] one of the other things she's done was she, [39:27.000 --> 39:29.000] apparently she's somewhat [39:29.000 --> 39:31.000] handicapped, she walks with some [39:31.000 --> 39:33.000] crutches, and she, [39:33.000 --> 39:35.000] it's difficult for her to move around, [39:35.000 --> 39:37.000] get up and down and stuff, so she didn't want to have to [39:37.000 --> 39:39.000] stand up for the judge [39:39.000 --> 39:41.000] when the judge walks in [39:41.000 --> 39:43.000] the courthouse, you know, everyone says, oh, rise, [39:43.000 --> 39:45.000] you know, like he's, you know, or [39:45.000 --> 39:47.000] she is like a god or something, [39:47.000 --> 39:49.000] everyone has to stand up and everything to show [39:49.000 --> 39:51.000] respect, you know, and so she didn't [39:51.000 --> 39:53.000] want to have to because of her situation. [39:53.000 --> 39:55.000] Well, I believe, [39:55.000 --> 39:57.000] Wendy, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe [39:57.000 --> 39:59.000] that they charge you with contempt of court [39:59.000 --> 40:01.000] for not standing up, [40:01.000 --> 40:03.000] and so then she turned around and [40:03.000 --> 40:05.000] filed charges against them for discriminating [40:05.000 --> 40:07.000] against handicapped people. [40:07.000 --> 40:09.000] Well, I'm not [40:09.000 --> 40:11.000] here for contempt of court, [40:11.000 --> 40:13.000] because [40:13.000 --> 40:15.000] I have filed the [40:15.000 --> 40:17.000] counterclaim. I was the plaintiff [40:17.000 --> 40:19.000] in Amity jurisdiction [40:19.000 --> 40:21.000] under the Savings and Suitors [40:21.000 --> 40:23.000] Clause 28 U.S.C. 1333, [40:23.000 --> 40:25.000] subsection one. [40:25.000 --> 40:27.000] I was no longer a defendant, [40:27.000 --> 40:29.000] I was a plaintiff. I was sitting at [40:29.000 --> 40:31.000] the prosecutor's table before he got [40:31.000 --> 40:33.000] there, and the judge [40:33.000 --> 40:35.000] ordered me to get to the other table. [40:35.000 --> 40:37.000] And I said, I am at the proper table. [40:37.000 --> 40:39.000] Anyway, [40:39.000 --> 40:41.000] so he says, I order you [40:41.000 --> 40:43.000] over here to this table. And I said, [40:43.000 --> 40:45.000] I am at the proper table. Anyway, we went [40:45.000 --> 40:47.000] back and forth. And he said, [40:47.000 --> 40:49.000] I'm going to hold you two days in the county jail [40:49.000 --> 40:51.000] if you don't [40:51.000 --> 40:53.000] get over here to this other table. I said, [40:53.000 --> 40:55.000] that's civil criminal. He said, that's criminal. [40:55.000 --> 40:57.000] And I said, everything you need to know [40:57.000 --> 40:59.000] about me is in my paperwork. [40:59.000 --> 41:01.000] So that's how I got [41:01.000 --> 41:03.000] in jail for two days. [41:03.000 --> 41:05.000] But on the [41:05.000 --> 41:07.000] discrimination part of it, [41:07.000 --> 41:09.000] was I had a judge who [41:09.000 --> 41:11.000] wouldn't allow me to [41:11.000 --> 41:13.000] have a chair. And I get the [41:13.000 --> 41:15.000] one to ask a question. He said, [41:15.000 --> 41:17.000] I'm doing the question asking, you I answer, [41:17.000 --> 41:19.000] blah, blah, blah. And then I said, [41:19.000 --> 41:21.000] I finally busted out, and I said, [41:21.000 --> 41:23.000] I need a chair because I'm handicapped. [41:23.000 --> 41:25.000] And you just feel him sink. [41:25.000 --> 41:27.000] Okay? [41:27.000 --> 41:29.000] I've done a lot of things [41:29.000 --> 41:31.000] in court. [41:31.000 --> 41:33.000] I've got one judge who's no longer a judge. [41:35.000 --> 41:37.000] So we've done a lot. [41:37.000 --> 41:39.000] And the reason that, you know, [41:39.000 --> 41:41.000] I'm digging up Wendy [41:41.000 --> 41:43.000] so much, and she deserves it, [41:43.000 --> 41:45.000] of course, is because [41:45.000 --> 41:47.000] okay, [41:47.000 --> 41:49.000] she's like us, a layman. [41:49.000 --> 41:51.000] I can't imagine yet. [41:51.000 --> 41:53.000] Never cracked a book [41:53.000 --> 41:55.000] in law, but [41:55.000 --> 41:57.000] she was incensed about [41:57.000 --> 41:59.000] the situation. [41:59.000 --> 42:01.000] How Wendy [42:01.000 --> 42:03.000] got into all of this is they were going [42:03.000 --> 42:05.000] after her and her husband [42:05.000 --> 42:07.000] criminally for not [42:07.000 --> 42:09.000] obtaining some kind [42:09.000 --> 42:11.000] of a license to grow [42:11.000 --> 42:13.000] flowers, all right? [42:13.000 --> 42:15.000] Certification. [42:15.000 --> 42:17.000] Certification to grow flowers. [42:17.000 --> 42:19.000] Give me a break. [42:19.000 --> 42:21.000] They were growing uncertified booms. [42:21.000 --> 42:23.000] This is just totally ridiculous. [42:23.000 --> 42:25.000] And so Jaclyn, [42:25.000 --> 42:27.000] you know, like we were discussing on the break, [42:27.000 --> 42:29.000] and you were saying, well, you're a layman. [42:29.000 --> 42:31.000] Well, I am too. So is Wendy. [42:31.000 --> 42:33.000] So are all of us. So was [42:33.000 --> 42:35.000] Randy 25, 30 years [42:35.000 --> 42:37.000] ago before he started looking into this. [42:37.000 --> 42:39.000] And the point that I'm [42:39.000 --> 42:41.000] trying to make here is that we can [42:41.000 --> 42:43.000] all do this. [42:43.000 --> 42:45.000] We can all do this. It's really [42:45.000 --> 42:47.000] not that hard. It just takes [42:47.000 --> 42:49.000] a little bit of reading [42:49.000 --> 42:51.000] and just some determination. [42:51.000 --> 42:53.000] That's all. [42:53.000 --> 42:55.000] It's very inspiring, Wendy. [42:55.000 --> 42:57.000] Well, in our county, [42:57.000 --> 42:59.000] I've got other people doing this as well. [42:59.000 --> 43:01.000] There's five individuals now [43:01.000 --> 43:03.000] that are doing it. And now we've got [43:03.000 --> 43:05.000] the Indian Cherokee Nation that [43:05.000 --> 43:07.000] is doing it. [43:07.000 --> 43:11.000] How long have you been doing this? [43:11.000 --> 43:13.000] Oh, I've been doing this since [43:13.000 --> 43:15.000] May 7, 2007. [43:15.000 --> 43:17.000] Oh, okay. [43:17.000 --> 43:19.000] Wow. [43:19.000 --> 43:21.000] Wendy, you've been [43:21.000 --> 43:23.000] listening to us since our [43:23.000 --> 43:25.000] first show, you said? [43:25.000 --> 43:27.000] How did you find out about our show? [43:27.000 --> 43:29.000] My [43:29.000 --> 43:31.000] husband heard it on the radio. It was [43:31.000 --> 43:33.000] just a fluke. Wait a minute. [43:33.000 --> 43:35.000] Are we being broadcast on the [43:35.000 --> 43:37.000] radio, not just the internet, in [43:37.000 --> 43:39.000] your area? [43:39.000 --> 43:41.000] At one time, you were. [43:41.000 --> 43:43.000] But not anymore? [43:43.000 --> 43:45.000] His first show was actually [43:45.000 --> 43:47.000] on the radio. And that's how we got [43:47.000 --> 43:49.000] this jurisprudence [43:49.000 --> 43:51.000] website. And that's how [43:51.000 --> 43:53.000] we got started. Oh, okay. [43:53.000 --> 43:55.000] Well, contact that radio [43:55.000 --> 43:57.000] station and have them put us back on the air. [43:57.000 --> 43:59.000] Okay. [43:59.000 --> 44:01.000] We have a... [44:01.000 --> 44:03.000] We know of about six or seven [44:03.000 --> 44:05.000] stations that are broadcasting us, [44:05.000 --> 44:07.000] but there could be a lot more that we don't even know about [44:07.000 --> 44:09.000] because they can stream us off the internet [44:09.000 --> 44:11.000] and then send us right on there. [44:11.000 --> 44:13.000] And that's why Deborah works so hard [44:13.000 --> 44:15.000] on the technical end to get it [44:15.000 --> 44:17.000] right for [44:17.000 --> 44:19.000] broadcast quality. That's right, because [44:19.000 --> 44:21.000] this is a little side issue, [44:21.000 --> 44:23.000] but there are [44:23.000 --> 44:25.000] literally hundreds of startup [44:25.000 --> 44:27.000] networks, radio stations, [44:27.000 --> 44:29.000] internet radio stations, whatever you want to call it. [44:29.000 --> 44:31.000] Everybody [44:31.000 --> 44:33.000] thinks they're a producer. [44:33.000 --> 44:35.000] Everybody thinks they're a guitar player. [44:35.000 --> 44:37.000] Everybody thinks they're a singer. [44:37.000 --> 44:39.000] But I'm telling you, [44:39.000 --> 44:41.000] it's a lot of work. It really is. [44:41.000 --> 44:43.000] You have to have experience. You have to have training. [44:43.000 --> 44:45.000] Just like any other skill, [44:45.000 --> 44:47.000] any other trade, [44:47.000 --> 44:49.000] it takes experience, work, and [44:49.000 --> 44:51.000] study. And the thing is, [44:51.000 --> 44:53.000] if you want to get on the [44:53.000 --> 44:55.000] airwaves and not just broadcast [44:55.000 --> 44:57.000] on the internet, you've got to know what you're doing. [44:57.000 --> 44:59.000] You've got to have proper equipment. [44:59.000 --> 45:01.000] And you've got to sound good. You've got to put out [45:01.000 --> 45:03.000] a hot signal that's not distorted, [45:03.000 --> 45:05.000] etc., etc. Have all the levels balanced [45:05.000 --> 45:07.000] out between the callers and the hosts and all [45:07.000 --> 45:09.000] these kinds of things. It's very, very [45:09.000 --> 45:11.000] complex and extreme. [45:11.000 --> 45:13.000] And I know how to do it [45:13.000 --> 45:15.000] because I've been doing [45:15.000 --> 45:17.000] audio recording and [45:17.000 --> 45:19.000] sound engineering for 25 years. [45:19.000 --> 45:21.000] And so that's why [45:21.000 --> 45:23.000] we are getting our message [45:23.000 --> 45:25.000] out to hundreds of thousands of people. [45:25.000 --> 45:27.000] And the FM stations carry my [45:27.000 --> 45:29.000] stream because [45:29.000 --> 45:31.000] I'm doing a good job and I'm just [45:31.000 --> 45:33.000] I'm not trying to brag on myself or anything [45:33.000 --> 45:35.000] because I don't even really know anything [45:35.000 --> 45:37.000] about law. But I'm just, I feel [45:37.000 --> 45:39.000] blessed and fortunate that I'm able [45:39.000 --> 45:41.000] to help Randy get his message [45:41.000 --> 45:43.000] out because we need to [45:43.000 --> 45:45.000] have hundreds of thousands of Randys [45:45.000 --> 45:47.000] everywhere [45:47.000 --> 45:49.000] doing what he does. [45:49.000 --> 45:51.000] I concur. [45:51.000 --> 45:53.000] So I just feel like I play a supportive [45:53.000 --> 45:55.000] role more than anything. And I'm fine [45:55.000 --> 45:57.000] with that because it's important to [45:57.000 --> 45:59.000] me because, you know, like we were discussing earlier [45:59.000 --> 46:01.000] what happened to Jaclyn, it could [46:01.000 --> 46:03.000] have been me. It could have been you. [46:03.000 --> 46:05.000] It could have been [46:05.000 --> 46:07.000] Wendy. It could have been, you know, someone's [46:07.000 --> 46:09.000] daughter. So we've got [46:09.000 --> 46:11.000] to put a stop to it. So we appreciate [46:11.000 --> 46:13.000] Wendy because she's an [46:13.000 --> 46:15.000] example of [46:15.000 --> 46:17.000] our teaching [46:17.000 --> 46:19.000] in practice. [46:19.000 --> 46:21.000] Yeah. [46:21.000 --> 46:23.000] Yeah. It's very inspiring. [46:23.000 --> 46:25.000] I mean, I feel helpless. I wish that I [46:25.000 --> 46:27.000] wasn't so, I wish that I knew, even [46:27.000 --> 46:29.000] the little bit that I know now, [46:29.000 --> 46:31.000] you know, when the incident happened and [46:31.000 --> 46:33.000] it may have gone a different way. But yeah, [46:33.000 --> 46:35.000] it's very inspiring that you've actually [46:35.000 --> 46:37.000] educated yourself and are [46:37.000 --> 46:39.000] doing so much. Yeah. It's not [46:39.000 --> 46:41.000] near as complex [46:41.000 --> 46:43.000] as you think. [46:43.000 --> 46:45.000] You're sitting back, [46:45.000 --> 46:47.000] you know, with no real knowledge about it [46:47.000 --> 46:49.000] and everything looks [46:49.000 --> 46:51.000] daunting. And the [46:51.000 --> 46:53.000] one thing I keep trying to get across [46:53.000 --> 46:55.000] it just looks [46:55.000 --> 46:57.000] that way. [46:57.000 --> 46:59.000] It's really simple. [46:59.000 --> 47:01.000] You just look at the laws [47:01.000 --> 47:03.000] and if it looks like they violated [47:03.000 --> 47:05.000] a law file, oh heck. [47:05.000 --> 47:07.000] Yeah, exactly. Let them explain [47:07.000 --> 47:09.000] later. And I'm going to [47:09.000 --> 47:11.000] I'm just going to relay this brief [47:11.000 --> 47:13.000] analogy I've said once [47:13.000 --> 47:15.000] twice on the air before [47:15.000 --> 47:17.000] about just the value [47:17.000 --> 47:19.000] of reading just a little [47:19.000 --> 47:21.000] bit because, okay, [47:21.000 --> 47:23.000] I'm a computer tech also. [47:23.000 --> 47:25.000] I used to work in a computer repair [47:25.000 --> 47:27.000] shop before I started [47:27.000 --> 47:29.000] being a physical therapist and [47:29.000 --> 47:31.000] the other things that I do. Was that before or after [47:31.000 --> 47:33.000] you were a competition [47:33.000 --> 47:35.000] ice skater and math professor? [47:35.000 --> 47:37.000] Okay. [47:37.000 --> 47:39.000] Well, sometime in between. The fire spinner? [47:39.000 --> 47:41.000] That too. [47:41.000 --> 47:43.000] But at any rate, I do [47:43.000 --> 47:45.000] have a [47:45.000 --> 47:47.000] I contract myself freelance [47:47.000 --> 47:49.000] to I build computers [47:49.000 --> 47:51.000] for people who do [47:51.000 --> 47:53.000] audio recording and that sort of thing [47:53.000 --> 47:55.000] for studios. But at any rate, I worked in a computer [47:55.000 --> 47:57.000] repair shop and [47:57.000 --> 47:59.000] here's the [47:59.000 --> 48:01.000] deal. [48:01.000 --> 48:03.000] Everybody thinks, oh, how can you fix computers [48:03.000 --> 48:05.000] or all these computer guys and girls [48:05.000 --> 48:07.000] are so smart and [48:07.000 --> 48:09.000] man, you must have to really study [48:09.000 --> 48:11.000] hard and all this stuff and it's just so [48:11.000 --> 48:13.000] beyond. I could never do anything like that and stuff [48:13.000 --> 48:15.000] and you just you just wouldn't [48:15.000 --> 48:17.000] believe how easy it really [48:17.000 --> 48:19.000] is. I mean, when I was in the computer repair [48:19.000 --> 48:21.000] shop and, you know, a lot of these people were [48:21.000 --> 48:23.000] A plus certified and all this kind of thing. I'm not. [48:23.000 --> 48:25.000] I just I taught myself. But [48:25.000 --> 48:27.000] at any rate, computers [48:27.000 --> 48:29.000] were coming all the time. We [48:29.000 --> 48:31.000] have no idea how to fix them. Every problem [48:31.000 --> 48:33.000] is different. Every computer is different. [48:33.000 --> 48:35.000] It's a new deal every time a computer walks [48:35.000 --> 48:37.000] in the store, right? And so [48:37.000 --> 48:39.000] what we would do is we [48:39.000 --> 48:41.000] would just look at the symptoms [48:41.000 --> 48:43.000] and then we would get on the Internet [48:43.000 --> 48:45.000] and go to these tech forums because a lot [48:45.000 --> 48:47.000] of these geeky tech people, they [48:47.000 --> 48:49.000] just love to post on forums [48:49.000 --> 48:51.000] about how to solve [48:51.000 --> 48:53.000] these problems. And so we would just look up the [48:53.000 --> 48:55.000] symptoms of the computer [48:55.000 --> 48:57.000] on these computer repair tech [48:57.000 --> 48:59.000] forums and then we would read about [48:59.000 --> 49:01.000] what other people did to solve the problem [49:01.000 --> 49:03.000] and then we'd do the same [49:03.000 --> 49:05.000] thing and fix the computer. [49:05.000 --> 49:07.000] And the point of the story [49:07.000 --> 49:09.000] is all we had to do [49:09.000 --> 49:11.000] was know how to read and type. [49:11.000 --> 49:13.000] Okay, so it's really [49:13.000 --> 49:15.000] not that hard. And what Randy does [49:15.000 --> 49:17.000] it's the same thing. Just [49:17.000 --> 49:19.000] read. Just read a little bit [49:19.000 --> 49:21.000] and then, you know, and of course Randy's [49:21.000 --> 49:23.000] taking it beyond that. I mean, he's got all these strategies. [49:23.000 --> 49:25.000] But anyway, the point of the whole [49:25.000 --> 49:27.000] story is that [49:27.000 --> 49:29.000] I don't want our listeners to think that [49:29.000 --> 49:31.000] oh my God, I could never [49:31.000 --> 49:33.000] do that or anything like that because [49:33.000 --> 49:35.000] we're just like everybody else, [49:35.000 --> 49:37.000] all right? And it really doesn't take that much. [49:37.000 --> 49:39.000] So anyway, I'll quit ranting. [49:39.000 --> 49:41.000] Go ahead. [49:41.000 --> 49:43.000] Besides, Wendy [49:43.000 --> 49:45.000] I'll vouch for this. [49:45.000 --> 49:47.000] It's a hoot. [49:47.000 --> 49:49.000] Oh, it's [49:49.000 --> 49:51.000] a lot of fun. [49:51.000 --> 49:53.000] I actually have [49:53.000 --> 49:55.000] a good time at it. [49:55.000 --> 49:57.000] The last time we went before the grand jury members [49:59.000 --> 50:01.000] and I took out of the [50:01.000 --> 50:03.000] 137 complaints I filed, [50:03.000 --> 50:05.000] I picked one because I didn't know [50:05.000 --> 50:07.000] which one I was supposed to be taking anyway. [50:07.000 --> 50:09.000] I took it against [50:09.000 --> 50:11.000] the district attorney for tampering [50:11.000 --> 50:13.000] with the registered mail I sent to the grand [50:13.000 --> 50:15.000] jury members. And [50:15.000 --> 50:17.000] it didn't go [50:17.000 --> 50:19.000] nowhere. He didn't give it to them. [50:19.000 --> 50:21.000] So then I filed an ethics complaint against [50:21.000 --> 50:23.000] him. And that sort of shook him up. [50:23.000 --> 50:25.000] So then he admitted in the paper [50:25.000 --> 50:27.000] what he did with the registered [50:27.000 --> 50:29.000] mail. He saw it wasn't [50:29.000 --> 50:31.000] proper for the grand jury. [50:31.000 --> 50:33.000] But what he said was the grand jury [50:33.000 --> 50:35.000] foreman was the only one who received [50:35.000 --> 50:37.000] hers. I didn't [50:37.000 --> 50:39.000] send her one because she was a criminal [50:39.000 --> 50:41.000] and I had a criminal complaint against her. [50:41.000 --> 50:43.000] Okay. [50:43.000 --> 50:45.000] Well then [50:45.000 --> 50:47.000] I took the newspaper article [50:47.000 --> 50:49.000] where he admitted where [50:49.000 --> 50:51.000] it was and my criminal complaints [50:51.000 --> 50:53.000] against him and her. [50:53.000 --> 50:55.000] And while I'm reading this newspaper article [50:55.000 --> 50:57.000] I turn around and looked at her. [50:57.000 --> 50:59.000] And I said, [50:59.000 --> 51:01.000] whose mail did you open? [51:01.000 --> 51:03.000] And she said, I didn't open [51:03.000 --> 51:05.000] nobody's mail. I'm not on trial [51:05.000 --> 51:07.000] here. I said, the district attorney [51:07.000 --> 51:09.000] sent this paper article. You opened [51:09.000 --> 51:11.000] the mail. Whose mail did you open? [51:11.000 --> 51:13.000] She said, I never would, never could open [51:13.000 --> 51:15.000] it. [51:15.000 --> 51:17.000] And she was shaking so bad [51:17.000 --> 51:19.000] through the round. [51:19.000 --> 51:21.000] That was funny. [51:21.000 --> 51:23.000] It was so funny. [51:23.000 --> 51:25.000] That's great. [51:25.000 --> 51:27.000] That's when you get to see the chicken dance. [51:29.000 --> 51:31.000] That's the shifting from one foot to the other [51:31.000 --> 51:33.000] that you're speaking about today. [51:33.000 --> 51:35.000] That happens quite often here. [51:37.000 --> 51:39.000] Thanks to Wendy. [51:39.000 --> 51:41.000] Like I said, there's five others [51:41.000 --> 51:43.000] who are doing this process [51:43.000 --> 51:45.000] and stuff that we're doing here. And we've got [51:45.000 --> 51:47.000] the Cherokee Nations involved [51:47.000 --> 51:49.000] here because they have their own [51:49.000 --> 51:51.000] driver's license and tags. [51:51.000 --> 51:53.000] And they have started to pull them over and harass [51:53.000 --> 51:55.000] them. [51:55.000 --> 51:57.000] And my dad [51:57.000 --> 51:59.000] is part Cherokee. [51:59.000 --> 52:01.000] And so I'm thinking about being [52:01.000 --> 52:03.000] filled with citizenship [52:03.000 --> 52:05.000] with the Cherokee Nation next week. [52:05.000 --> 52:07.000] To go to the [52:07.000 --> 52:09.000] treaty. [52:09.000 --> 52:11.000] What I guess is really interesting is [52:11.000 --> 52:13.000] this sheriff [52:13.000 --> 52:15.000] up here calls [52:15.000 --> 52:17.000] the medicine man of the [52:17.000 --> 52:19.000] I call him medicine man of the Cherokee [52:19.000 --> 52:21.000] Nation and tells him that he [52:21.000 --> 52:23.000] loves him like a brother. [52:23.000 --> 52:25.000] We've got the sheriff loving somebody [52:25.000 --> 52:27.000] like a brother. [52:27.000 --> 52:29.000] He's a criminal up here. [52:29.000 --> 52:31.000] Oh my goodness. [52:31.000 --> 52:33.000] That's the one thing you [52:33.000 --> 52:35.000] find out about these [52:35.000 --> 52:37.000] guys. It seems the more [52:37.000 --> 52:39.000] rancorous they are to begin with, [52:39.000 --> 52:41.000] the bigger cowards they really [52:41.000 --> 52:43.000] are. First time you [52:43.000 --> 52:45.000] sting them good, all of [52:45.000 --> 52:47.000] a sudden they just couldn't be nicer. [52:47.000 --> 52:49.000] I go in the courthouse, oh well hello Mr. [52:49.000 --> 52:51.000] Kelton. How are things [52:51.000 --> 52:53.000] going Mr. Kelton? And I know what they're [52:53.000 --> 52:55.000] really thinking. I wish you were deadly [52:55.000 --> 52:57.000] scum. Well yeah and see [52:57.000 --> 52:59.000] that's one other thing I wanted to comment on. [52:59.000 --> 53:01.000] Thanks for bringing that up Randy. [53:01.000 --> 53:03.000] Because a lot of people think [53:03.000 --> 53:05.000] that oh I'm scared to do this because [53:05.000 --> 53:07.000] if I do then they're going to [53:07.000 --> 53:09.000] come after me. Well [53:09.000 --> 53:11.000] that's not the way it is. [53:11.000 --> 53:13.000] You do these [53:13.000 --> 53:15.000] things and actually [53:15.000 --> 53:17.000] they're scared of you. And they [53:17.000 --> 53:19.000] treat you with more respect and [53:19.000 --> 53:21.000] walking on eggshells around you and stuff. [53:21.000 --> 53:23.000] And one of the main reasons for that is [53:23.000 --> 53:25.000] because they know that [53:25.000 --> 53:27.000] what you're doing is [53:27.000 --> 53:29.000] dangerous to them because they're in [53:29.000 --> 53:31.000] the wrong. They're breaking the law. And [53:31.000 --> 53:33.000] the grand jury [53:33.000 --> 53:35.000] could indict them. [53:35.000 --> 53:37.000] You know what I'm saying? And so [53:37.000 --> 53:39.000] Yeah no it makes sense. [53:39.000 --> 53:41.000] I mean I'm still getting over [53:41.000 --> 53:43.000] that. I'm still trying to get [53:43.000 --> 53:45.000] over my fear of [53:45.000 --> 53:47.000] that they've instilled in me and [53:47.000 --> 53:49.000] my you know [53:49.000 --> 53:51.000] and anyone that I talk to I mean [53:51.000 --> 53:53.000] nobody knows this stuff. You know anybody that I [53:53.000 --> 53:55.000] talk to you know the thought of [53:55.000 --> 53:57.000] that I'm not going to show up with [53:57.000 --> 53:59.000] with counsel is like [53:59.000 --> 54:01.000] you know it's suicide [54:01.000 --> 54:03.000] to most people. Right. But [54:03.000 --> 54:05.000] yeah. Sorry I didn't mean [54:05.000 --> 54:07.000] to interrupt. Oh no. [54:07.000 --> 54:09.000] We have went for 10 [54:09.000 --> 54:11.000] judges now. [54:11.000 --> 54:13.000] They've all been to have recused themselves. [54:13.000 --> 54:15.000] We have had 25 [54:15.000 --> 54:17.000] court appearances. [54:17.000 --> 54:19.000] And we're still here. [54:19.000 --> 54:21.000] Yeah. Now they owe me [54:21.000 --> 54:23.000] $465 [54:23.000 --> 54:25.000] million dollars [54:25.000 --> 54:27.000] $554 [54:27.000 --> 54:29.000] thousand [54:29.000 --> 54:31.000] and that's what their liens for. [54:31.000 --> 54:33.000] On them up here at the courthouse. [54:33.000 --> 54:35.000] See now Wendy's [54:35.000 --> 54:37.000] becoming very dangerous because now she's [54:37.000 --> 54:39.000] adding in a little bit of commercial law [54:39.000 --> 54:41.000] with the statutory [54:41.000 --> 54:43.000] remedies and filing liens against these people. [54:43.000 --> 54:45.000] I mean I [54:45.000 --> 54:47.000] Randy and I haven't even started to really get [54:47.000 --> 54:49.000] into that part yet. The student surpasses [54:49.000 --> 54:51.000] the master. [54:51.000 --> 54:53.000] Yes. Exactly. [54:53.000 --> 54:55.000] Well actually [54:55.000 --> 54:57.000] it was Yahweh who brought [54:57.000 --> 54:59.000] everything to us just when we [54:59.000 --> 55:01.000] needed it the most. That's right. [55:01.000 --> 55:03.000] So our creator redeemer [55:03.000 --> 55:05.000] he brings things to you [55:05.000 --> 55:07.000] when you need it. [55:07.000 --> 55:09.000] So we stung him. Exactly. [55:09.000 --> 55:11.000] You're so right about that. [55:11.000 --> 55:13.000] It all started with religious issues. [55:13.000 --> 55:15.000] Remember the religious [55:15.000 --> 55:17.000] issue from the Baptist Church. [55:17.000 --> 55:19.000] Yeah. [55:19.000 --> 55:21.000] Apparently Jacqueline the reason that [55:21.000 --> 55:23.000] this whole thing started with Wendy and the Flowers [55:23.000 --> 55:25.000] was because the [55:25.000 --> 55:27.000] head of the agriculture department [55:27.000 --> 55:29.000] had some kind of [55:29.000 --> 55:31.000] religious [55:31.000 --> 55:33.000] beef against [55:33.000 --> 55:35.000] Wendy and her family [55:35.000 --> 55:37.000] for their religious beliefs or something [55:37.000 --> 55:39.000] like that. [55:39.000 --> 55:41.000] Yeah. [55:41.000 --> 55:43.000] We didn't go with [55:43.000 --> 55:45.000] their rules and regulations. [55:45.000 --> 55:47.000] We only followed his laws. [55:47.000 --> 55:49.000] So then we abated [55:49.000 --> 55:51.000] his charges and stuff [55:51.000 --> 55:53.000] and said he was the enemy of Jesus Christ [55:53.000 --> 55:55.000] and he defaulted on it [55:55.000 --> 55:57.000] so we hung it in his church. [55:57.000 --> 55:59.000] Oh my God! Wendy! [56:01.000 --> 56:03.000] This is how this all started. [56:03.000 --> 56:05.000] He [56:05.000 --> 56:07.000] no longer [56:07.000 --> 56:09.000] goes to this church anymore [56:09.000 --> 56:11.000] because we wrote the preacher [56:11.000 --> 56:13.000] and told him he was a criminal. [56:15.000 --> 56:17.000] He knew how his preacher [56:17.000 --> 56:19.000] sent us Christian tapes [56:19.000 --> 56:21.000] to tell us to submit to all [56:21.000 --> 56:23.000] ordinances of man. [56:23.000 --> 56:25.000] This is how this all started. [56:25.000 --> 56:27.000] Wendy, you're too much. [56:27.000 --> 56:29.000] You're just too much. [56:29.000 --> 56:31.000] It's been a wild [56:31.000 --> 56:33.000] ride. I'm telling you, two years of this. [56:33.000 --> 56:35.000] But we've been fighting for 13 [56:35.000 --> 56:37.000] different things. [56:37.000 --> 56:39.000] And the police [56:39.000 --> 56:41.000] used to stalk us. [56:41.000 --> 56:43.000] They used to sit down [56:43.000 --> 56:45.000] where we grow our flowers [56:45.000 --> 56:47.000] and sit there and watch us to try to intimidate [56:47.000 --> 56:49.000] us and their customers. [56:51.000 --> 56:53.000] I saw my first criminal complaint [56:53.000 --> 56:55.000] off the police department [56:55.000 --> 56:57.000] for stalking. [56:57.000 --> 56:59.000] I don't see them anymore. [56:59.000 --> 57:01.000] They don't even look my way. [57:01.000 --> 57:03.000] Good for you. [57:03.000 --> 57:05.000] Part of the reason for that too also, [57:05.000 --> 57:07.000] Jacqueline, is because [57:07.000 --> 57:09.000] there's something called retaliation. [57:09.000 --> 57:11.000] If you file criminal charges [57:11.000 --> 57:13.000] against somebody, if they [57:13.000 --> 57:15.000] do anything [57:15.000 --> 57:17.000] that could be construed as [57:17.000 --> 57:19.000] trying to get back at you or trying to intimidate [57:19.000 --> 57:21.000] you from filing a criminal charge [57:21.000 --> 57:23.000] against them, then in most states [57:23.000 --> 57:25.000] it's a felony. It's called retaliation. [57:25.000 --> 57:27.000] That's another reason why [57:27.000 --> 57:29.000] they're like on eggshells and kid gloves. [57:29.000 --> 57:31.000] They try to instill fear, [57:31.000 --> 57:33.000] the conditioning, the psychological [57:33.000 --> 57:35.000] and physical abuse, just like they [57:35.000 --> 57:37.000] try to do to you, to get people [57:37.000 --> 57:39.000] to be afraid. And you know what? [57:39.000 --> 57:41.000] It's all smoke and mirrors. It's completely [57:41.000 --> 57:43.000] smoke and mirrors. It's just like the Wizard of Oz. [57:43.000 --> 57:45.000] Don't pay attention to the little man [57:45.000 --> 57:47.000] behind the curtain. It's a fraud. [57:47.000 --> 57:49.000] It's a sham. They're trying to scare [57:49.000 --> 57:51.000] us into backing down. [57:51.000 --> 57:53.000] And they're in the wrong, and that's just all there is. [57:53.000 --> 57:55.000] And we just have to realize [57:55.000 --> 57:57.000] the power that we have. Wendy, you're [57:57.000 --> 57:59.000] and Wendy is just too much. I mean [57:59.000 --> 58:01.000] and a great, Jerry [58:01.000 --> 58:03.000] even has a song that the teacher at the foot [58:03.000 --> 58:05.000] of the student one day must say. I mean, Wendy [58:05.000 --> 58:07.000] is, man, [58:07.000 --> 58:09.000] she's taking the bull by the horns. [58:09.000 --> 58:11.000] I got a call today and one of her judges [58:11.000 --> 58:13.000] was, I don't know if I should say this [58:13.000 --> 58:15.000] or one of her judges, [58:15.000 --> 58:17.000] somebody took an actual picture in a porno [58:17.000 --> 58:19.000] shop in a transvestite. [58:19.000 --> 58:21.000] Oh my, well you know [58:21.000 --> 58:23.000] what? Well, Giuliani is a [58:23.000 --> 58:25.000] cross dresser and my singer [58:25.000 --> 58:27.000] Pat says that if Giuliani had got elected [58:27.000 --> 58:29.000] president, he would [58:29.000 --> 58:31.000] have been the first lady in office. [58:31.000 --> 58:33.000] Listen, we're going [58:33.000 --> 58:35.000] to break. Wendy, Jacqueline, hang [58:35.000 --> 58:37.000] on the line. We're going to keep both of y'all on the air [58:37.000 --> 58:39.000] and then we want to start going to some other [58:39.000 --> 58:41.000] callers. We'll be right back. 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[01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.000] Alright, the book of life [01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.000] in our hands [01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.000] as Wendy was saying [01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.000] earlier. Jaja, [01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.000] a good Lord Jesus, getting [01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.000] it all to us, everything we need. [01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.000] Now, our [01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.000] guest Jacqueline informed [01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.000] us on the break that she needs to go. And [01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:11.000] Jacqueline, indeed, you've hung with us for [01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.000] almost three hours. We really [01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.000] appreciate it. So let's just have [01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.000] some closing comments from you [01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.000] and how [01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.000] we're going to proceed. So go ahead, Jacqueline. Any [01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.000] closing comments? [01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.000] Well, I've learned a lot [01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.000] in the past three hours and enjoyed it immensely. [01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.000] I really, more than anything, I just [01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.000] cannot thank you guys enough [01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:33.000] for what you do. [01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.000] Yeah, I just really can't thank [01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.000] you guys enough because I don't really know what I [01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.000] would be doing with this case if I [01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.000] hadn't been put in contact with you guys. [01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.000] Wendy, you are an inspiration to all. [01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.000] And [01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.000] yes, I am inspired [01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.000] and feeling very optimistic and empowered. [01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.000] And I thank you both. [01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.000] Excellent. Excellent. [01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.000] Randy, any closing [01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.000] comments for our guest on how we're going to [01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.000] proceed next? Just a quick [01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.000] summary. When we get back to [01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.000] Nevada, we're going to wind their clocks. [01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.000] We'll turn [01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.000] Jacqueline into another Wendy. [01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.000] I'm [01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:11.000] into that. [01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.000] I'm inspired. [01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.000] The thing that makes [01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.000] it easier is the first [01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.000] time you get to see them do the little chicken dance. [01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.000] I watched it. [01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.000] I've done it. [01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.000] I'm looking forward to seeing the chicken dance. [01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.000] I've done it. I've done it. [01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.000] I've made them sweat bullets. Jacqueline, it's [01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:33.000] fun. It's hilarious. [01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.000] I told [01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.000] Jacqueline earlier about you getting [01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.000] the prosecutor to cough [01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:41.000] through a felony. Of Williamson County, no [01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.000] less, the most notorious county in Texas. [01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.000] Wow. That [01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.000] is great. [01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.000] That's a good point to bring. [01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.000] I like to go after [01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.000] the most corrupt [01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.000] officials around. They're the most [01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.000] vulnerable. Yeah. [01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.000] They know they're corrupt. The most [01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.000] skeletons in the closet, they're the most [01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.000] scared. [01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.000] When somebody actually stands up to them, [01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.000] they buckle quicker than everybody else. [01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.000] The guy who really thinks he's [01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.000] doing the right thing, [01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.000] he's really hard to handle. [01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.000] But the guy who [01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.000] knows he's a piece of scum, [01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:19.000] he's terrified. [01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.000] I mean, it makes [01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.000] sense. Yeah. [01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.000] He's a pushover. [01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.000] They're like high school bullies in the parking lot, [01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.000] just like Randy was saying. [01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.000] It's a big front. They're nothing [01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.000] but a fraud. [01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.000] It's like the Wicked Witch and the [01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.000] Wizard of Oz going back to the Wizard of Oz. [01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.000] He's just a cup of water [01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.000] and they just melt, really. [01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.000] Randy, you [01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.000] have a great new word that is [01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.000] going to be used in my vocabulary [01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.000] now today. It's called hubris. [01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.000] Oh, yes, hubris. Is that the word? Yes. [01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.000] Hubris. It's a good word. [01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.000] I like that word. [01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.000] Ron Paul taught us about that [01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.000] one. Oh, okay. [01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.000] She was asking earlier about [01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.000] how they'll respond [01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.000] and won't they [01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.000] kind of figure out what we're doing? [01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.000] No. [01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.000] Because they're afflicted with hubris. [01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000] They're so arrogant [01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.000] that nothing we do [01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.000] will alert them. [01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.000] It's true. And they can't [01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.000] defend themselves anyway because, [01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.000] as Randy always likes to say, and I agree, the [01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000] bell, you can't unring the [01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.000] bell, okay? You can't unsend [01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.000] the email. It's done. [01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000] The deed has been committed. [01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.000] They're culpable. That's [01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.000] just all there is to it. They can't back out of it. It's [01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.000] too late. [01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.000] We start stinging them and they [01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.000] can't back out of it. [01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.000] The best thing, I went to McClennan County, [01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.000] that's Waco, Texas, [01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.000] and asked the district [01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.000] attorney for the minutes of the grand [01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.000] jury. [01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.000] First I asked the clerk and she was supposed to have [01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:55.000] them and she said, well, the district attorney has them. [01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.000] So I went down to the district attorney's office [01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.000] and asked him for them and this [01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.000] clerk gave me this [01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.000] pad of paper, [01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.000] about 10 pages of paper [01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.000] and I looked at it and it said [01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.000] the grand jury report. [01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.000] I handed it back to her. No, no, no, I don't need [01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.000] that. I need the official [01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.000] grand jury report. [01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:17.000] So they brought up the district attorney [01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:19.000] and I explained to him I needed the minutes of the grand [01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.000] jury. That's where the grand [01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.000] jury reached to the court [01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.000] the fact of the indictment [01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.000] whether they true bill, [01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:29.000] no bill, or pass. [01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.000] And he was confused. [01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.000] He said, Mr. Kelton, [01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.000] I've never had a request like that before. [01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:37.000] Do you mind if I ask why [01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.000] that's important? I said, well, [01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000] I'm going to be coming down here filing [01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.000] some criminal complaints against some public [01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.000] officials. And the [01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.000] only way I can tell is if you [01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.000] actually gave my [01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.000] complaints to the grand jury or not [01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.000] is by checking the minutes of the grand [01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.000] jury. So when I give you the complaints, [01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.000] if I don't [01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.000] find a true bill, no bill, or pass, [01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.000] then [01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.000] I'll file criminal charges against you. [01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.000] So I left. [01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.000] Something else. [01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:09.000] And the next time I come [01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.000] back, I have criminal charges against [01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.000] a district judge. [01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.000] And I [01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.000] talked to an assistant district attorney. [01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.000] He went in, talked to his boss, came back [01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.000] out. He said, Mr. [01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.000] Kelton, if you will give me a [01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.000] verified complaint, I will file [01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:27.000] it with the grand jury. [01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.000] Reason being, [01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.000] he did his homework, [01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.000] checked [01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.000] and found out the laws I quoted [01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.000] to him were dead on. [01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.000] And he had no choice. [01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.000] Had no choice. And this is the problem [01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.000] they have. They find out their bill has been [01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.000] wrong. What I accuse them of doing, [01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.000] they've already done and they can't undo [01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.000] it. That's when they [01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.000] start getting frightened and start getting [01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.000] really, really careful. [01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.000] All right. Well, Jacqueline, thank [01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.000] you for hanging with us for so long. [01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.000] We appreciate you coming on. [01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.000] Thank you so much for having me. [01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:03.000] And I feel [01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.000] for you. I've never experienced [01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:07.000] what you went through. It's honestly [01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.000] my worst nightmare, to be honest. [01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.000] And I'm so sorry, [01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000] you know, just from one human [01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.000] being to another, even though I don't know you, [01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.000] it breaks my heart. [01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.000] It really does honestly break my heart [01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.000] what they did to you. That's why I'm [01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.000] doing what I'm doing. And [01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.000] I just want to let you know that we're going to do [01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.000] everything we can to [01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000] help you. And I just want you to know [01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.000] that what you went through [01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.000] is not in vain. [01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:35.000] Okay? Somehow [01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.000] we're going to turn this thing around [01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:39.000] not only to get justice for you, [01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.000] but it's going to turn around [01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000] to help other people too [01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.000] so that other people don't have to go through [01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.000] this. We're going to turn [01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.000] it around. And that would be extremely rewarding [01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.000] to know that those people would think twice [01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.000] before they did it to another person. Yes. [01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.000] It's not in vain what happened to you. [01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.000] Okay? We will [01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:59.000] make, the Lord will turn this around. [01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.000] Okay? Thank you for joining us this evening. [01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.000] Thank you so much, you guys, for everything [01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.000] that you do. I can't thank you enough. [01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.000] Alright. Alright. Looking forward to [01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.000] talking to you again. [01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.000] Likewise. Okay. [01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.000] Jacqueline? Yes. [01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.000] We were the first ones [01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.000] to file a criminal complaint in our county. [01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.000] No one had [01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.000] ever done that. Huh. [01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:23.000] And now there's been over 200 files [01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.000] with me and others. That is great. [01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:27.000] There's [01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.000] a lot of movement here. [01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.000] That is great. [01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.000] Alright. Alright. [01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000] Alright. Thank you, Jacqueline. Looking forward to [01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.000] meeting you in person. [01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:39.000] Yes. Likewise, Deborah. [01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.000] All of you have a great night and thank you again. [01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.000] Alright. Thank you. Goodnight. [01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.000] Okay. Bye. Bye. [01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.000] Alright. That was Jacqueline, our new friend. [01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.000] We're going to [01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.000] take it [01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.000] to the man as they say. [01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.000] You know, I just [01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.000] got to say, any man [01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.000] that beats up on a woman [01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:01.000] is a total [01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.000] scumbag. [01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.000] Okay. Pick on somebody your own size. [01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.000] I mean, that's [01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.000] just the lowest of the [01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.000] low. It's like, I'm [01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.000] sorry, you know, [01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.000] the lowest of the low [01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.000] for a man to beat up on [01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000] a woman. And I don't think that a woman should beat up [01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000] on a man either. But [01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.000] I mean, come on. There is just [01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.000] no comparison. [01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:27.000] I mean, it's just [01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.000] the state of our bodies. That's why [01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.000] in sports competition, [01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.000] men and women don't compete against each other [01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.000] because men have more lean muscle mass [01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:37.000] than women in general. [01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.000] There's just no [01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.000] competition. The stature is bigger, [01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.000] the more lean muscle mass. I mean, [01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.000] it's just ridiculous. That's why [01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.000] you know, [01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.000] abuse of men towards women in any [01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.000] form is just, it's horrible. [01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.000] It's like abusing a child. [01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.000] There's [01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.000] just no way. [01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.000] There's no comparison. Pick on somebody [01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.000] your own size, okay? [01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.000] Give me a break. It's just [01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000] awful. I mean, [01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.000] I mean, [01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.000] a man totally disrespects himself [01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000] when he goes there. [01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.000] Yeah, pick on somebody like Wendy. [01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.000] You get your butt kicked. Yeah, no [01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.000] kidding. No kidding. [01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.000] Give me a break. Okay, Wendy, you're welcome [01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.000] to hang on line with us if you want to make some comments. [01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.000] We're going to continue on to other callers now. [01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.000] We've got John, Daniel, [01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.000] Nolan, Aaron, John in Ohio. [01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.000] I believe John from Ohio is a first [01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000] time caller. John, are you a first [01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:33.000] time caller? Yes, I am. [01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.000] Thank you for holding, [01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.000] thank you for hanging on so long [01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.000] being a first time caller. [01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:41.000] I just want to explain that [01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000] we do spend a lot of time with our callers. [01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.000] Talk shows, talk show hosts, [01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000] they rampage and blaze through their callers. [01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.000] We like to give our callers as much [01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.000] time as we can, especially [01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:53.000] on Friday nights, four hour shows. So thank you for [01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:55.000] holding. What's on your mind tonight? [01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:57.000] Well, we're fighting [01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.000] the flashing money trees up here in Ohio. [01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.000] You're fighting what now? [01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:03.000] The flashing money trees. [01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:05.000] What is it? [01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.000] The enforcement cameras. [01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.000] Oh. [01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.000] Wait, listen, [01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.000] you're going to love this. Somebody sent me an email [01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:15.000] about some kids in [01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.000] Massachusetts or [01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.000] somewhere. [01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.000] Yeah, I really put some thoughts [01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.000] in my head. [01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.000] What did they do? [01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.000] They took the principal's [01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.000] license plate [01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.000] and copied it on a piece of paper [01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.000] and put it over their car [01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.000] plate and drove through the... [01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:39.000] Wait a minute, wait a minute. I got an even better [01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:41.000] story. This happened in [01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.000] England. Jerry was [01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.000] telling me, he showed me this article. I [01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000] believe it was England. Maybe Jerry could correct me if I'm [01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.000] wrong. These people, [01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.000] here's what they did. There was a [01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.000] speed trap with the cameras. [01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.000] They sped past, [01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:57.000] got pulled over on purpose, [01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.000] and two of them were [01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.000] distracting the police [01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.000] while the other guy [01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.000] jumped out of the car, ran around, [01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.000] took the license plate [01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000] off of the [01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.000] vehicle that was... [01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.000] the cop vehicle that was set up with [01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.000] the camera with speed trap. [01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.000] Then when they got their ticket, they drove [01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000] away. They put the cop's license [01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000] plate on their van, and [01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.000] then they drove past the speed trap [01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.000] like 27 [01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.000] times. [01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.000] The system sent [01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.000] like 27 automated [01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:33.000] tickets to themselves [01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.000] to the speed trap. [01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.000] That's great. [01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.000] You'd never get away with that. [01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:43.000] Something like that around here. [01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.000] I wouldn't do that, of course. [01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.000] It's funny, though. [01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.000] Moral and everything else, I'm sure. [01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:53.000] What we've been running into here, [01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.000] and there's a [01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.000] group of folks fighting this. They've got [01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.000] a suit filed and everything else. [01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000] One of my friends [01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000] went down to the city engineer's [01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.000] office and [01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.000] requested information. They had public [01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.000] information from the city engineer's office. [01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.000] Since he's a part of [01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.000] this group, apparently, [01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.000] the city engineer's office was [01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.000] ordered by the law director of the city [01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.000] to [01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:23.000] not give any information [01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.000] to them. [01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:27.000] This particular gentleman. [01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.000] Now, what I can find in Ohio [01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.000] law is that they're [01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:33.000] violating ORC [01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.000] 149.33 [01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:37.000] and it's basically an open record [01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:39.000] act. [01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.000] Any public information, and they spell [01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.000] out [01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.000] in the code [01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.000] what's acceptable to hold, which is like [01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.000] criminal investigation [01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.000] techniques [01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.000] and things for criminal [01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.000] violations. [01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:57.000] Of course, they're civil, so [01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.000] there's [01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.000] no issue there. [01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000] I think [01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000] the law director's violating [01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.000] this. I'm trying to figure out what else [01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.000] she did by ordering [01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.000] the engineer to do this. [01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.000] How do you know she ordered the engineer? [01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.000] This is what the city [01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.000] engineer told [01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:27.000] my friend when he went down there [01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.000] that he was not allowed to give him [01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.000] any information [01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:33.000] because the law director told [01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:35.000] him not to give him any [01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:37.000] information. Here's my suggestion. [01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.000] Look up [01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.000] official oppression. [01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.000] Ohio's going to [01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.000] have that. [01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.000] Almost every state [01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.000] has it. New Mexico didn't. [01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:51.000] That was the only one I saw that didn't have it. [01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.000] If your [01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.000] state doesn't have an official [01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.000] oppression statute, you can always pull down the [01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.000] federal statute, which is 18 U.S. [01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:01.000] Code 242. [01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.000] What official oppression does [01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.000] is it makes it a crime for a public [01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:07.000] official to violate a law relating to [01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.000] his office. [01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:11.000] In the process, deny a citizen [01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.000] full and free access to enjoy every right. [01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.000] In those [01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:17.000] cases, [01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.000] for me, open [01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.000] records is an art form. [01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.000] I go down [01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.000] and deliberately get them [01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.000] to ask me why I want to see the records. [01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.000] Because [01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.000] in Texas, that's forbidden. [01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:33.000] The statute [01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.000] says the custodian [01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:37.000] may make [01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.000] the custodian may [01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.000] make inquiry of the [01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.000] requester to determine [01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.000] his identity. [01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:49.000] I'm sorry. It says [01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.000] the custodian may make [01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.000] no other inquiry [01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.000] of the requester other than [01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:57.000] to determine his [01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.000] identity and the records [01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.000] sought. [01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.000] Ohio is close to that, [01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:05.000] but they may not make any [01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.000] request of your identity. [01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.000] That's even better. [01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:11.000] I saw that. I just got [01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.000] all giddy. [01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.000] What I do is go down there and tell them my favorite [01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.000] one was the probation department. [01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.000] I went down there and I told them [01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.000] I want to see all your records, all your financial [01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.000] records. [01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.000] First, I told the clerk [01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.000] that I wanted to see the custodian of the record. [01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.000] Well, who are you? [01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.000] I'm Randall Kelton. Well, who are you with? [01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.000] I look behind me, nobody back there. [01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.000] Well, why do you want to see these? [01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.000] Don't ask me that. [01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.000] Well, I need to know why you would see them. No, ma'am, you do not. [01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.000] I wound up getting rid of her. [01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:43.000] I told her that [01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.000] she's not asking me that. [01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.000] You're not asking me why I want to see the records [01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.000] because if you were asking me, [01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.000] I'd have to take out my cell phone and call the police [01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.000] and have them come and arrest you. [01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.000] Who is the custodian of the record? [01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.000] She said, well, I don't know. Who runs this office? [01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.000] What was his name? [01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.000] Randy Moon. [01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.000] I said, get him. [01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:05.000] She took off and got him. He comes out. [01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:07.000] He said, hello, my name is Randy Moon. [01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.000] What can I do for you? I want to see all your financial records. [01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.000] Who are you? [01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.000] Well, I'm Randall Kelton. [01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.000] Well, who are you with? [01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.000] I look behind me, nobody back there. [01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.000] Well, why do you want to see these? [01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.000] Don't ask me that. [01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.000] He said, I'm asking you. I told you not to ask me that. [01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:25.000] He said, look, if you don't tell me why you want to see them, [01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.000] I'm not going to show them to you. [01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.000] Oh, man, you shouldn't have told me that. [01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.000] I took out my cell phone, 9-1-1. [01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.000] And if I was your guy, [01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.000] I would go back to this engineer, [01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:37.000] tell him, I don't care what that other person said, [01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:39.000] you go get those records, you will get them right now. [01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:41.000] And when he says no, [01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.000] 9-1-1. [01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.000] Ask him to come out and arrest him. [01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.000] And when the policeman gets there, [01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.000] you tell him that all I need you to do [01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:51.000] is make a record [01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:53.000] of my complaint. [01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:55.000] You don't have to arrest him [01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:57.000] or anything. I just need it recorded [01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:59.000] that I'm here at this time, [01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:01.000] that I'm alleging that he [01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:03.000] committed this crime [01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:05.000] on this date at this time. [01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.000] I want you to make out a report. [01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:09.000] Okay. And when he says he's not going to make [01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.000] out a report, I tell him, [01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.000] it's your call, Bubba. [01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:15.000] Life is filled with little decisions. [01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.000] You get to make one. [01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:19.000] Are you going to do your job? [01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:21.000] Are you going to shield him from prosecution? [01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.000] Yeah. [01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:25.000] That brings [01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.000] up another point, another [01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.000] small problem. [01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.000] There's [01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.000] these hearings that they're having. [01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.000] They're [01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.000] open to the public. [01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:39.000] If you want to contest [01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.000] your picture [01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.000] of you doing [01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:45.000] these terrible acts, [01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.000] they've set up [01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.000] a court, and they have a [01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.000] hearing officer, and [01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:53.000] they'll have a police officer in there as well. [01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.000] The hearing officer is [01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:57.000] an attorney hired by the city [01:18:57.000 --> 01:18:59.000] to decide whether or not these are fair. [01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.000] And [01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:03.000] the [01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.000] same friend that went to the city engineer's office, [01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.000] he's been attending these [01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.000] hearings, these appeal hearings. [01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.000] The now acting [01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000] police chief, [01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.000] he won't [01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.000] give them the time of these hearings anymore. [01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:23.000] Oh. [01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.000] That is wonderful. [01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:27.000] Yeah, I thought it was a thing of beauty myself. [01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.000] Yeah, I get to file [01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.000] against the chief. [01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.000] I don't know. [01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.000] I'm sure he's doing something [01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:39.000] criminal, but I'm not sure what it is. [01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.000] Just make up some conspiracy. [01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.000] Now, wait a minute, wait a minute. [01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.000] Are you saying he's refusing [01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.000] to let [01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:49.000] people know when the hearings are? [01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.000] Yeah, yeah. [01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.000] He said, well, how did this [01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.000] hearsay on my part? But, you know, [01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.000] what my friend was told was [01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:59.000] it was a need to know thing. [01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.000] Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Check the laws [01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.000] in your state, because [01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:05.000] I believe [01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.000] this is federal, but I know for sure [01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:09.000] in Texas, state statutes, [01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.000] it's called the [01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.000] Open Hearings Act. [01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:15.000] No, I know for sure it is federal [01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000] as well, where [01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.000] they have to give [01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.000] public notice [01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:23.000] a certain amount [01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.000] of notice, of time, [01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.000] not like five minutes to let [01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.000] people know when these hearings are. [01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000] This is different. [01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000] This is court records. [01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:35.000] Well, I thought he was talking about hearings, [01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.000] letting him know when a hearing is [01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.000] going to be held. This is a hearing. That's [01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.000] the court. All [01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.000] courts [01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.000] shall be public. [01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.000] What part of that do you not [01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.000] understand, Bubba? [01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.000] Well, wait a minute. Constitutional. [01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.000] I'm confused here. John, are you talking about them [01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.000] not giving notice for when the hearing [01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.000] is? [01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.000] This isn't a real [01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.000] court. Yeah, this is the thing over [01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.000] the tickets, right? Over the... [01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.000] So, it's essentially [01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.000] a hearing [01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000] that [01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:11.000] the prosecutor's pretending to be a judge [01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.000] and [01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:15.000] they're pretending to call [01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.000] these civil complaints, [01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:19.000] and then you got [01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.000] a pretend prosecutor pretending to be a judge [01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.000] in a pretend civil hearing, which is really [01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.000] a criminal hearing, but it doesn't matter [01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:27.000] because they're both hearings. [01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.000] And then what's the point? They're not [01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.000] informing you of when the hearing is? [01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.000] Right. [01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:37.000] Okay, then even though it's court, [01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.000] okay, Randy, [01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:41.000] you're correct. There may be some [01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.000] special [01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.000] statutes or guidelines governing [01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.000] court hearings, but I know [01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.000] for sure all public hearings [01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.000] and even court hearings [01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.000] fall under the Open [01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.000] Hearings Act, whether it's [01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.000] court or congressional or committee [01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:59.000] hearings of congressional committees [01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.000] or whatever, all government [01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.000] public hearings [01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.000] have to be posted [01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.000] and notified by [01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:09.000] certain standards [01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:11.000] and requirements to adhere to [01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:13.000] notification, [01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.000] and if they don't, it's a violation of the [01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.000] Open Hearings Act. In Texas, it's 72 [01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.000] hours. That's right. [01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.000] But this is [01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:23.000] a court hearing, so that [01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:25.000] goes straight to Constitution. [01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000] And it still falls under the Open Hearings Act, too. [01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.000] You can [01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000] nail the [01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.000] chief of police [01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.000] for denying you your constitutional [01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000] right to a public court. [01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.000] You can file it with [01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.000] the feds. Exactly. [01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.000] That'll [01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.000] get the state's attention? [01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:47.000] Yeah. [01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.000] Well, you know, [01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.000] my personal issue [01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:53.000] with these cameras, they're taking money [01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.000] out of a community that really can't afford it. [01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000] Well, not only that, you can't face [01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.000] your accuser because your accuser is a piece [01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:01.000] of equipment. Oh, yeah. [01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.000] I mean, the list is long, but [01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:05.000] this community, [01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.000] I think the company that owns the camera [01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:09.000] gets 65 percent of [01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.000] the fine money [01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.000] that just leaves the state [01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.000] in the county, in that [01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000] local area. It really doesn't [01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.000] have it to give, and [01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.000] it's just a mess. [01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:23.000] This is a new category [01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:25.000] of crime, crime by [01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000] ownership. [01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.000] And they know it's bogus. [01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.000] Yeah, [01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.000] I got my picture sent to me, [01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.000] and I had the option of [01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.000] turning in who was driving the car, but [01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:39.000] it was Hugo Chavez. He was up here [01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.000] drinking for the weekend, and I [01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.000] didn't want to cause an international [01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.000] incident by turning him in. [01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:49.000] We've got a lot of callers. We really [01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.000] need to move on. Do you have any other [01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.000] issues? [01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:55.000] Thank you guys very much, and I'll probably end up calling [01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.000] back, but I'm going to run with this for a while and [01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.000] see where it takes me. Okay, great. [01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.000] Thank you, John. Have fun with it. It's a hoot [01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000] when you start going after it. [01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000] Hoot. I've been having a ball [01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:07.000] so far. Okay, thank you, John. [01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.000] Bye. Okay, we're going to [01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.000] move on. If they give you [01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.000] any crap, we'll send Wendy up [01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.000] there. Yeah, really, boy. [01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.000] I'm telling you what. Okay, [01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:19.000] we've got Daniel in North Carolina. [01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:21.000] Okay, Daniel, what's on your mind tonight? [01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:23.000] Yes, [01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.000] how you doing? Good. What's on your mind [01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.000] tonight? Yes, [01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:29.000] I have an issue [01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.000] right now, and [01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:33.000] actually it's for [01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:35.000] custody for [01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:37.000] my child. What happened was [01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:39.000] the mother, [01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.000] she [01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:43.000] got into some drug [01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.000] things and everything, and what happened was [01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.000] DSS came and took the child, [01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:49.000] and my child right now is in [01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.000] DSS custody and foster [01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:53.000] care. Wait a minute. Why [01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:55.000] usually the government [01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.000] or the DRO or whatever [01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.000] they call it, Child Protective Services, [01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.000] will [01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.000] put the child in the custody [01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:05.000] of the other parent [01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.000] pretty much right away [01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:09.000] unless they've declared both parents [01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.000] inept or something. [01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.000] Are you wanting custody [01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.000] of your child? [01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.000] Oh, yes, because I have went to court [01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:19.000] and I took [01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.000] DNA [01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.000] and everything came back. [01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:25.000] It was mine. [01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.000] What happened was, what was crazy was [01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.000] is that I never got [01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.000] issued any type of summons or anything [01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.000] to come to court, and what happened [01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.000] was it was kind of my fault [01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:37.000] on the blame because I wasn't [01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.000] paying attention like I should've been, [01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:41.000] and I wound up being [01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.000] in front of the judge and everything, and [01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.000] what they did was they went straight at my [01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.000] past history. [01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.000] They went straight at my past history [01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.000] and based off, plus [01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.000] based off what she did to them, [01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.000] which was very [01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.000] incriminating to me. I don't know [01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.000] for me, because I guess she [01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.000] wanted to do something to get back [01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.000] at me or something like that, but [01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.000] I'm making it now. I'm in court now [01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.000] and they're [01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.000] still stuck on my past and they're [01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.000] having me take drug tests [01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.000] and everything just to see my [01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.000] child. I haven't even seen my child [01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.000] yet. I haven't even held her yet. [01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:19.000] So the court is basically [01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.000] trying to screen you somehow [01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:25.000] to decide whether or not [01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.000] you're a competent parent [01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000] in order to transfer custody. Is that [01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:31.000] correct? Yes, yes [01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.000] that is, and [01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.000] I mean, you know, I'm taking [01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:37.000] urine tests. I mean, you know, [01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:39.000] I have marijuana in my system. I mean [01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.000] just being honest with you, and [01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.000] I just feel, you know, it's just [01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.000] invading my privacy, invading, [01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.000] you know, and I wanted to [01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000] I did everything else they asked [01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.000] me to do. I went to psychology. [01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.000] It took him like seven weeks, I mean [01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.000] seven months to come back with a [01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.000] review of my [01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.000] psych evaluation. [01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:01.000] And what did the [01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:03.000] psych evaluation say? [01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.000] Oh, I mean, I'm competent. [01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.000] So the psych evaluation [01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.000] says you're competent. So what is the [01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.000] reason of the court that they're [01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.000] not giving you custody of your child? Is it because [01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.000] of the marijuana? Yes. [01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.000] Okay, I've got to tell you [01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.000] I've watched [01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.000] people go through this [01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.000] firsthand. [01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.000] As long as you're testing [01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000] positive for marijuana, they're not going to give it to you. I'm sorry. [01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.000] They're not going to give you custody. [01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.000] And it's not fair. It's wrong. [01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.000] I know. [01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.000] But, you know, you're going to [01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.000] have to either quit [01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.000] temporarily or [01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.000] find something to [01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.000] cleanse your system. [01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.000] And I know it's wrong. It's totally [01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.000] wrong. I mean, you [01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.000] know, the good herb was placed [01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.000] on this earth by our good lord. [01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:53.000] It cures many diseases, [01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.000] asthma, glaucoma. [01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.000] It cures cancer. It's been proven [01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000] by medical studies to cure cancer and everything. [01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.000] But still, because [01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:03.000] of the FDA, [01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:05.000] it's classified as a [01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:07.000] Schedule A [01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.000] drug, which means that it has [01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.000] no medical purpose whatsoever. [01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.000] And, you know, the [01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.000] feds and the states have gotten [01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.000] in battles over it. [01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:19.000] That was [01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.000] against Ashcroft. They [01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:23.000] went in. Ashcroft went in with [01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:25.000] SWAT teams into a medical [01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.000] marijuana clinic that was authorized [01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000] and legitimized, [01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.000] certified by the state of [01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.000] California. And [01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.000] I'm sorry. This is a [01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.000] fight that we [01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.000] will take on eventually. But I've got to [01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.000] tell you, Daniel, as long as you're testing positive for [01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.000] marijuana, they're never going to give you custody of your child. [01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.000] If you really want your kid, you're going to have to [01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000] give it up for a while. [01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.000] I'm sorry. [01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.000] Yes, and I am. [01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:53.000] I've done everything they asked [01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:55.000] me to do. The only [01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.000] thing I haven't submitted yet, it was [01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.000] my information from my [01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.000] income statement. That's the only thing I haven't [01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.000] complied with. [01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.000] And the marijuana testing is positive [01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:07.000] for that. Yeah, the marijuana is [01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.000] a, in trying to get custody [01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:11.000] of your children, that [01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:13.000] is a really big [01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:15.000] deal. And it's [01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.000] bogus. It's lame. It shouldn't [01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:19.000] be that way. I mean, but [01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:21.000] that's how it is. [01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.000] That's how it is right now. And [01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:25.000] eventually, you know, [01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.000] this is, the marijuana issue [01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.000] is a battle that we're going to have to take [01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:31.000] on at the federal level. [01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.000] Because this is because [01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:35.000] of the feds with the FDA [01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.000] and everything like that. [01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:39.000] And it's all because of the pharmaceutical [01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.000] companies and the oil [01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:43.000] industry because hemp, which [01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.000] isn't even marijuana, [01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.000] has no narcotics [01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.000] whatsoever. It can be [01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:51.000] grown for clothing. [01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:53.000] It's a very strong fiber [01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.000] to be used, they used to use it as [01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.000] sails on ships. [01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:59.000] It can be, okay, [01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:01.000] listen, one acre of [01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.000] hemp, which is not marijuana now, one acre [01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.000] of hemp makes ten times as much [01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:07.000] ethanol as an acre of corn. [01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.000] And they're pushing corn off to make [01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:11.000] ethanol, and that's food. [01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.000] It's totally ridiculous. Hemp [01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.000] will save the planet, okay, [01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:17.000] with the grace of our Lord Jesus. [01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:19.000] It's fuel, we don't have to [01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:21.000] mine and suck the precious blood [01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:23.000] out of the earth, the oil. It's [01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:25.000] fuel, it can be used [01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.000] as fiber, as food, [01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:29.000] it's nutritious, okay, [01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.000] it's medical, it has many medical [01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:33.000] uses, and so all these [01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:35.000] corporate interests [01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:37.000] of the pharmaceutical companies and the oil [01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:39.000] industries are suppressing [01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:41.000] it, keeping it illegal, and [01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.000] this is a, okay, the hemp [01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.000] issue, the marijuana issue, I'm sorry, [01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.000] this is a major, major, [01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:49.000] huge big time battle like [01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.000] 9-11 truth that we have to take on at the [01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.000] federal level or even higher. So [01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.000] listen, that is not a fight that [01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:57.000] you should be trying to take on [01:30:57.000 --> 01:30:59.000] in custody of your child. So [01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.000] I'm sorry, that's just the way it is right now. [01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.000] Until we can gain control of our court system, [01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:05.000] you just gotta, you gotta tell [01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:07.000] the line a little bit if you really want your kid. [01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.000] Yeah, we need to move on, [01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:11.000] we're getting more callers. [01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:13.000] I haven't seen them right now, in place [01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.000] I have my sister which is [01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.000] in [01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:19.000] in line to get custody, [01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:21.000] but the whole thing about it is that [01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:23.000] it's not up to me, or [01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:25.000] not up to them, it's up to the DSS [01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:27.000] and then the judge. The judge [01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:29.000] is going to have the final say. [01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:31.000] I can't, okay, here's my [01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:33.000] advice, okay, because I've seen other people go through [01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:35.000] this. Normally I would not give this [01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:37.000] advice, and I'm not going to give legal advice. [01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:39.000] I would just say, if I was you, this [01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:41.000] is what I would do. Now, and then we need to move on, [01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.000] Randy's right, okay. [01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:45.000] I want to say one thing, I'm going to cut you off. [01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:47.000] Say this right quick. [01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:49.000] And that's another thing, I have to go, I'm going [01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:51.000] to court the 27th, and [01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.000] they've been petitioning for me [01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.000] to give them my parental right, okay. [01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.000] Don't do it, don't do it. [01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:59.000] Yeah, I know, because from what I'm [01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.000] understanding, that it's, even [01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.000] if I don't comply, they still [01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.000] can do it. [01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:07.000] Well, they can? [01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.000] Okay, quickly, we're going to finish up in a couple minutes. [01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.000] Do you have a lawyer? [01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.000] No, I don't. [01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.000] Actually, they gave me a [01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.000] court-appointed lawyer. [01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.000] Okay. Can you afford [01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:21.000] your own attorney? [01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.000] Yeah, I mean, in this case, yeah. [01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.000] I mean, it's just for my child. I can, I mean, [01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:29.000] I'll go cook. Okay, alright, here's [01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.000] my advice, because I've watched my [01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.000] people and my family go through this, [01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.000] and then we do have to move on, okay? [01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:37.000] Right. Okay, normally, [01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:39.000] the way Randy and I operate, [01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:41.000] everything is pro se. [01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.000] In this case, I would say, [01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:45.000] get yourself a reasonable [01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.000] attorney, and here's how you [01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:49.000] can do it. Look up Men and Fathers [01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.000] Resource Center in [01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:53.000] your area, okay? Google that. [01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:55.000] Men and Fathers [01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:57.000] Resource Centers. [01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.000] Okay, they have them in every state, [01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:01.000] pretty much every major city, [01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.000] and they will hook you up with [01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:05.000] attorneys who will [01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:07.000] work for you at like a [01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:09.000] fraction of the price of what they normally [01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:11.000] charge, because they consider it a [01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:13.000] donation, like charity work, [01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.000] so to speak, okay? And get [01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.000] yourself somebody like that that will help you, [01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:19.000] because the court will look more favorably [01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.000] on you in a situation [01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.000] like custody if you have [01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:25.000] an attorney. If you don't, [01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.000] they're going to treat you like scum, [01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:29.000] but they'll think that [01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:31.000] the attorney is going to [01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:33.000] look out for the best interest of the child, [01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.000] and so they'll trust you more, okay? [01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.000] So that's my advice to you from experience, [01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.000] okay? Okay. [01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.000] Thank you very much, Randy. All right. [01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:43.000] Call us back and let us know how it goes. [01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.000] Men and Fathers [01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.000] Resource Center, and [01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:49.000] here's another tip. [01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.000] Here's another little tidbit [01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.000] of a tip. [01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:55.000] CERTO. C-E-R-T-O. [01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:57.000] CERTO. It's like gelatin [01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.000] that people use to make jello and [01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:01.000] can, you know, [01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.000] fruits [01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:05.000] and stuff. It's pectin. [01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:07.000] That will [01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:09.000] help give you [01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:11.000] a more favorable outcome on these urine tests, [01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.000] okay? Okay. [01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:15.000] Okay. All right. Okay. [01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.000] Good night. All right. [01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:19.000] We're going to move on now to [01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.000] Nolan in North Carolina. [01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.000] Hey, Nolan, thanks for calling in. [01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:25.000] What's on your mind tonight? [01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:27.000] I heard you and Randy talking about [01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.000] it's [01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.000] against the law for them to take [01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:33.000] our fingerprints when they [01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:35.000] arrest us, or it's a statute or something [01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:37.000] that I'm coming to explain [01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.000] to some user. [01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:41.000] There's one in Texas that [01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:43.000] forbids anyone to [01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.000] take biometric data [01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.000] without someone's [01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.000] permission, and [01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.000] we've been trying to raise the issue [01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:53.000] concerning [01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.000] the taking of fingerprints [01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.000] because [01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.000] with a [01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:03.000] what do they call it, the [01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:05.000] something-chrome spectrometer, I forget [01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.000] the actual name, [01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:09.000] the spectrometer where they can actually see [01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.000] the chemical components [01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:13.000] in a sample, [01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.000] they can read chemicals present [01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.000] in your fingerprint. Oh, my God. [01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.000] Yeah. [01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.000] That is scary. [01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:23.000] So, now the [01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.000] fingerprint is more than just a fingerprint, [01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:27.000] it's giving up biometric data. [01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:29.000] Oh, man. [01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:31.000] And or data [01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.000] giving up evidence [01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.000] that can be used against you. [01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.000] And so [01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.000] what we're saying is never [01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.000] do anything [01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.000] voluntarily. [01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.000] Right. Object to [01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.000] it, and in Texas, there's a [01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:49.000] statute that makes it a felony to take someone's [01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.000] biometric data without their permission. [01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000] Okay, well, Randy, what about this? [01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:55.000] You've got to give up a fingerprint in most states [01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:57.000] to get a driver's license, so are they [01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.000] going to implement this chemical [01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:01.000] reading technology [01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.000] that you go to try to get a driver's license [01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.000] and you give up your fingerprint, and [01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:07.000] if you've got some [01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:09.000] substance on your [01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:11.000] fingertips, I mean, are they [01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:13.000] going to turn around and try to prosecute [01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.000] you for it? [01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.000] I haven't yet, but this was just [01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:19.000] an article showing that they [01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.000] had the capability. Ah, scary. [01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.000] And I think what they're reading [01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000] is the chemicals in the oil you [01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:27.000] leave when you [01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.000] press your finger. [01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:31.000] Oh, boy. Which you transfer body oils. [01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:33.000] So, but that's [01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.000] kind of a new fight. [01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.000] And I've read the [01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.000] statute a time or two, and [01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.000] clearly from reading the statute, it [01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.000] goes not to [01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000] fingerprints [01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:47.000] or personal data. [01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.000] It goes to [01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:51.000] taking someone's information [01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:53.000] and using it like [01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:55.000] identity theft. [01:36:55.000 --> 01:36:57.000] That's what the statute really goes to, so I don't [01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.000] think we'll be able to make it stick. [01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:01.000] Well, now, say that again. [01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:03.000] Taking someone's information. [01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:05.000] Identity theft. [01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000] Where if I take [01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.000] your fingerprints [01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.000] and use them to get [01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.000] you know, [01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.000] use them to [01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.000] falsify your identity. [01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:19.000] Yeah, but they're reading [01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.000] chemicals [01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:23.000] that you... Let me read you the statute [01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:25.000] to make more sense. Okay. [01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:27.000] I think it's 51. [01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:29.000] Oh, you know [01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.000] what? Because they're using the [01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:33.000] fingerprint in that [01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:35.000] situation for a purpose for which it was [01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.000] not intended. [01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:39.000] That's, that [01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.000] probably has a lot to do with it. [01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:45.000] Let me find it here. 52. [01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:47.000] Is this in text, is this text statute? [01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:49.000] Yeah, this is a text statute. Okay, well [01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:51.000] remember this is Nolan in California, in North [01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.000] Carolina now. Yeah, well. [01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:55.000] Hey, Nolan. That's what I said. This was [01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.000] a text statute. [01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:01.000] But, and it's probably [01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:03.000] not the same, but this is a new [01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.000] statute they just came up with [01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.000] with all of the [01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.000] identity theft [01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:13.000] and such. [01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:15.000] So would I go to biometrics [01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.000] in the statute to try to find... [01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.000] Yes, look up biometrics. [01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.000] Yes. [01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:23.000] And Nolan, okay, [01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:25.000] can you just [01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:27.000] tell us again what [01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:29.000] is the premise of giving a fingerprint [01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:31.000] in this case? [01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:33.000] Oh, I was picked up on [01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.000] probation violation [01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:37.000] for driving without license. [01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.000] Okay, so you were arrested [01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:41.000] and they forced you to give a fingerprint? [01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.000] Yeah. [01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:45.000] When they already had my information [01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.000] and then I had to go, you know, [01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:49.000] they demanded my fingerprints [01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:51.000] for the whole process again. [01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:53.000] And they explained to me how every time you're arrested for... [01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:55.000] Well, Randy, I [01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:57.000] I'm pretty sure in Texas, Randy, [01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.000] maybe you could tell me, [01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.000] in Texas they can't [01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.000] force you to give up biometric data [01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.000] without a warrant. [01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:07.000] Right, here's the... [01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:09.000] But I think if you're arrested, then that... [01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.000] Well, if you're on probation, [01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:13.000] now you're under contract. [01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.000] Yeah, that's a problem, [01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:17.000] Nolan. I mean, if you were on [01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:19.000] probation, you're under contract, and so [01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.000] I'm sure there [01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.000] is something in the terms and conditions [01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:25.000] of your probation [01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:27.000] agreement [01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:29.000] that they could [01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:31.000] take you at will [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.000] and test you or take your fingerprints [01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.000] or whatever. [01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:37.000] Okay, 3251 [01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:39.000] Texas Penal Code [01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:41.000] fraudulent use [01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:43.000] or possession of identifying information. [01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:45.000] And I think that's what's going to make it [01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.000] so that we can't [01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:49.000] use it against the police. [01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.000] Because it's [01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:53.000] not having it [01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:55.000] that is the crime, [01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:57.000] it's using it fraudulently. [01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:59.000] But it does say in this section [01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.000] identifying information means information [01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.000] that alone or in [01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.000] conjunction with other information identifies [01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:07.000] a person, including a person's [01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.000] name and social security number, date of birth [01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.000] or government issued identification [01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.000] number, unique biometric [01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.000] data, including the person's fingerprint, [01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.000] voice prep, or [01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.000] retina or iris scans, [01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:21.000] unique electronic identification [01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.000] number address, [01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:25.000] routing code, financial institution, [01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.000] account number, and telecommunication [01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:29.000] identifying information as access. [01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.000] And it goes on to, it goes [01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:33.000] to fraudulent use. Yeah, but [01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.000] in this case, [01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:37.000] in this case, he was on probation [01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:39.000] so that [01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.000] just puts a whole new [01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:43.000] spin on things. [01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.000] Even if the North Carolina statute [01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:47.000] was exactly the same as Texas, [01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.000] it wouldn't help, Nolan. [01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000] You need to read the fine print [01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.000] of your probation agreement [01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000] because I have a [01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.000] feeling that there's [01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.000] not going to be much you can do here. I mean, [01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:01.000] I [01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:03.000] personally, I mean, it would be a difficult [01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.000] decision for me to just [01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.000] do jail time or be on probation [01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.000] because nobody wants to be in jail. But [01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.000] the thing is, I mean, I've watched, [01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:13.000] I've seen people go through it, [01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.000] you know, in my [01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.000] circle. It's like, [01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:19.000] okay, two years in [01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.000] jail or ten years on probation, but [01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:23.000] then they make your life miserable for ten years [01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:25.000] and they can come to your house anytime they want [01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:27.000] and walk around and go [01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.000] through your trash and you've got to go every [01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:31.000] week or, you know, and [01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.000] get grilled and interviewed and [01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.000] give up all kinds of body fluids [01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:37.000] and, I mean, [01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.000] man, I'd almost rather be in [01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.000] jail for a year and just get it over with. I mean, [01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.000] once you're on probation, you're entered [01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.000] into a contractual agreement with [01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.000] these people and so you've got to [01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:49.000] look at the terms of the contract and [01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:51.000] if you agree to this, [01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:53.000] then there's really nothing that we could do to help [01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:55.000] you. [01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.000] Yeah. [01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.000] Sorry, this [01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:01.000] doesn't have an easy answer. Once you're [01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.000] on probation, they own you. [01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.000] Man, I think, personally, [01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.000] I think probation is worse than being in [01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:09.000] jail. I've never been on either one. I mean, [01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:11.000] I can't. I've been in jail [01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:13.000] as only six days. [01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.000] I take probation. Yeah, but dude, [01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.000] how would you feel to endure probation [01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.000] for like 10 years or 15 years and they're [01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.000] constantly harassing you and calling your [01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.000] boss and if you don't [01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.000] have a job, they're all over your butt [01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:27.000] and... Yeah, but if you, most people [01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:29.000] who are on probation, if they're, [01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:31.000] if they, if they're stable, [01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:33.000] they have almost [01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:35.000] no problem. [01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:37.000] Russ Morton's on probation [01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:39.000] and he's in process of appearing... And you've got to pay [01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:41.000] and pay and pay and pay. [01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:43.000] He pays 50 bucks a month, but he has [01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000] almost no problem at all [01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.000] with his probation officer because [01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:49.000] you know, he's not constantly in trouble [01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.000] or anything, so he really doesn't have much [01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:53.000] difficulty. [01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.000] A lot of it depends on... No, and why did they [01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:57.000] pick you up anyway? [01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:59.000] I was caught for [01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:01.000] a seatbelt violation. And why [01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:03.000] did they arrest you? [01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000] Because of the probation [01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:09.000] that the violation driving, [01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.000] you know, driving while my license was suspended. [01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:13.000] Oh, you were driving [01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:15.000] with a suspended license [01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.000] and you were on probation and that was a probation [01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.000] violation. [01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.000] Suspended license is a [01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:23.000] much more serious charge than [01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:25.000] seatbelt. Yeah, but the thing is, Randy, [01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:27.000] what he's saying is that was a [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.000] violation of his probation [01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.000] to drive with a suspended license. [01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:33.000] Yeah, a seatbelt he would probably [01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.000] got away with, but suspended [01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000] license is like a class B misdemeanor. [01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.000] That gets killed. [01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:41.000] Manolin, I don't know if there's much that we can [01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.000] do here. [01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:45.000] I mean, because [01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.000] if you're going to agree to terms of probation, [01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.000] you've got to [01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.000] agree to the terms and actually do [01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000] it. I mean, [01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.000] it's like once they got [01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:57.000] you in the system, [01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:59.000] okay, once they got [01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:01.000] you, [01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.000] there's almost nothing you can [01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:05.000] do, but just [01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.000] do what they say and to get [01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:09.000] yourself out of the system. We can't [01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:11.000] really pull the maneuvers [01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:13.000] that Randy and I normally do [01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:15.000] for due process because it just doesn't [01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.000] apply in this case. You agree [01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:19.000] to a contract. [01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:21.000] Yeah, we [01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:23.000] had a [01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:25.000] co-host on one [01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:27.000] of our shows that was kind of a problem. [01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.000] He interrupted a lot. [01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:31.000] I told him, I had [01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:33.000] to do the show once because the host was [01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.000] out of country, and I told the [01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:37.000] co-host, I've got a special [01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:39.000] guest on. Don't interrupt him. [01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:41.000] Oh, no problem. I won't interrupt him. And he did. [01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.000] I said, [01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.000] he said, oh, it won't be a problem. I said, [01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.000] I know it won't be a problem [01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.000] because the second time you interrupt my [01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:51.000] guest, I'm going to mute you. [01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:53.000] It took you what, [01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.000] a minute and 45 seconds or something? [01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.000] Yeah, and then he got all mad [01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:59.000] because Randy muted him, [01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:01.000] but he agreed [01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:03.000] to the terms of the contract to begin with, and [01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.000] so that was just the way it was. [01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:07.000] When I told the host, [01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.000] he was kind of upset that I had muted his [01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:11.000] co-host, and when [01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:13.000] I told him what happened, he went to the [01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.000] co-host and he said, what are you [01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:17.000] complaining about? You had a contract. [01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:19.000] Well, Nolan, why are you so upset that [01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:21.000] they took your fingerprint? [01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:23.000] I mean, I'm not upset. [01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:25.000] It's just that I heard y'all speaking about it, [01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:27.000] and I was just, you know, [01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:29.000] that was something I wanted to look into [01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.000] because they actually had my fingerprint. [01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.000] I know. I was going to say, if you're [01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:35.000] in probation, you've obviously already been arrested [01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.000] and been through the system, so [01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:39.000] I wouldn't worry about it too much, [01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:41.000] but what my main concern [01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:43.000] for you is [01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.000] restoring your liberties. [01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.000] Okay, I don't know how long you're going to be [01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:49.000] on probation for, and we do have a couple other college, [01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:51.000] we only got 15 minutes left, but, you know, [01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.000] my advice, you know, [01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.000] is [01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.000] smooth your probation officer, [01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.000] do whatever [01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:01.000] they tell you to do [01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.000] and get yourself off. [01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:05.000] If they say you can't drive [01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:07.000] with a suspended license, then you need [01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.000] to do what it takes to get your license restored [01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.000] or else don't drive, because [01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.000] you need to restore your [01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.000] liberties, and you've agreed to this contract, [01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.000] so you need to abide by the terms of the contract [01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.000] or they're going to take away your liberties, so [01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.000] that's just basically where it's at, and I wouldn't [01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:23.000] worry about the fingerprint because I already have it, [01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.000] and I wouldn't [01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.000] be like [01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.000] vindictive and emotional over the way they're treating [01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:31.000] you, because honestly, you agreed to a contract, [01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.000] so you agreed to it, [01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.000] so you need to do it, or else [01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:37.000] you're the one that's going to suffer, [01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:39.000] really. [01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:41.000] Okay. [01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:43.000] You said CERTO, [01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.000] C-E-R-T-O? [01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.000] Yes. [01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:49.000] Just think Jell-O. [01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:51.000] Yes, CERTO, it's pectin, and let me [01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000] tell you what it does. Okay. [01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:55.000] They may come and take me away for saying [01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.000] this, but I don't care, because it's my show, and [01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:59.000] okay, this is just the way it is. [01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:01.000] Okay. [01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.000] Herb and the cannabinoids and THC [01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.000] and everything is oil [01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.000] soluble, okay? [01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:09.000] I've heard all this crap all about making [01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.000] marijuana tea and boil it. [01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:13.000] No, that doesn't work. It's not water [01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:15.000] soluble. It's oil soluble. [01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.000] It's in your system. They can blood test [01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:19.000] you up to six months or more. [01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.000] It's oil soluble, and what the [01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.000] CERTO does, the [01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:25.000] pectin, it lines, [01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:27.000] and it's very uncomfortable. I've never [01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:29.000] done it, but this is what someone told me to do, [01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.000] and apparently it works. You take [01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:33.000] a box of CERTO [01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:35.000] and you mix it up [01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.000] in a couple gallons of water, [01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:39.000] and you've got to drink like two gallons [01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.000] of this CERTO mixed in water [01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:43.000] for a couple [01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.000] of hours, and it's very uncomfortable [01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.000] and all this kind of thing, but what the CERTO [01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000] does is it lines your [01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.000] urinary tract [01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.000] in your kidney, [01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:55.000] basically [01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.000] your urinary tract, and it keeps [01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:59.000] any [01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.000] oil soluble [01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.000] substance from [01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.000] leaching [01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.000] out of the [01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:09.000] urinary tract into [01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.000] the urine, but I do not promote [01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.000] I'm just going to make this official. [01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.000] I do not promote [01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.000] any kind of cover-up [01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:19.000] or misrepresentation [01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:21.000] of any [01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.000] drug testing [01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.000] or anything like that. [01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.000] I do not promote any cover-ups [01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:29.000] of any of that sort at all, but [01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:31.000] rather this is a cleansing [01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.000] method because it [01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.000] causes the oil soluble chemicals [01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000] to retain in the tissue to [01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000] be disposed of by [01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.000] more proper medical means. [01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.000] Okay. [01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:45.000] Thank you. [01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.000] It'll be [01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.000] a good night. I'm done. I'm done. [01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:53.000] Okay. [01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.000] Hey, hey, I bought that. [01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:59.000] Okay. That was a simulation. [01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.000] All right. Let's move on. [01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:03.000] I bought it. I bought it. [01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.000] It's a very technical [01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.000] medical procedure, [01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.000] strictly for cleansing purposes, okay? [01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:11.000] It comes under horse hockey. [01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:13.000] No. This is [01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.000] serious medical business. [01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.000] Okay. [01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.000] We're going to go here. [01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.000] Okay. Aaron, thanks for calling in. [01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:23.000] What's on your mind tonight? [01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:25.000] I'm not alive. Just listening to y'all cracking up. [01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.000] Okay. [01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.000] No, not crack pot. [01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.000] Wait a minute. Now, I have nothing to do with [01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.000] anything illegal whatsoever. [01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:37.000] This is just strictly [01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:39.000] hearsay. Yes. [01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.000] Go ahead, Aaron. Okay. So, Randy, [01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.000] you didn't finish reading the statute on fraudulent [01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.000] use or possession [01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.000] of identifying information. Yeah, or possession. [01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:49.000] Because paragraph E says, [01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:51.000] a person commits an offense if the person with [01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.000] the intent to harm another [01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:55.000] obtains, possesses, transfers, [01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:57.000] or uses identifying information [01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.000] of another person without the person's [01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:01.000] consent. [01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.000] Now, I think it does go to fraud, but [01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.000] it does talk about obtaining even [01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:07.000] and not just using, but [01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.000] obtaining and possessing. So, anyways, [01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:11.000] I don't want to talk about that. I want to talk about the red [01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:13.000] light camera. Oh, okay. [01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.000] I was just going to say something out the other day. [01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:17.000] And this is where all these arguments go. [01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:19.000] This is why they go down the toilet. [01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.000] You can't face your accuser. [01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:23.000] Guess what? It's a civil [01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.000] infraction. You don't have a right [01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:27.000] to face your accuser [01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:29.000] in a civil infraction. [01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:31.000] In Texas, traffic [01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:33.000] ticks are falling on the criminal side [01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.000] of the law. Not [01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.000] with this kind. What do you mean? [01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:39.000] One, specifically. [01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:41.000] This one is, what [01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:43.000] they did is they made a law [01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:45.000] in the transportation code saying [01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:47.000] that municipalities can [01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.000] make a civil [01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:51.000] code that causes [01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:53.000] this to be an infraction. [01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:55.000] The municipalities then [01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.000] create their ordinance, and [01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.000] the tickets are issued under a civil [01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:01.000] code. That's horse hockey. [01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:03.000] They know it's horse hockey, and [01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:05.000] they're being creative [01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:07.000] so that it takes a while to get it [01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.000] before the courts and get it struck down. [01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.000] It's called a fibrillation. [01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:13.000] They know it'll get struck down. [01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.000] They've tried all this crapola [01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:17.000] in the past. [01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:19.000] But by the time it gets struck down, [01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:21.000] they'll make a whole lot of money. [01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:23.000] I agree. But let me back [01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.000] up and say this is what's recently [01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.000] happened in my town. Guy [01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:29.000] spiked it. Guy spiked all [01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.000] sorts of things that are wrong with it. [01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:33.000] He's denied his fifth amendment right [01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:35.000] because that also only pertains to [01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.000] criminal. He's denied his [01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:39.000] sixth amendment right to face his accuser [01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:41.000] because that pertains to criminal. [01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.000] And he's denied his fourteenth amendment [01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000] right for due process of law because [01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:47.000] that pertains to criminal. [01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:49.000] He gets it ruled [01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:51.000] against him in the municipal court, [01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.000] files an appeal. [01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.000] They deny him the appeal because there is [01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:57.000] no...oh, what was [01:51:57.000 --> 01:51:59.000] the wording? There is no... [01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:03.000] I have the letter [01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:05.000] right here. [01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.000] There is no right [01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.000] to appeal beyond [01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.000] municipal court under [01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:15.000] the current red line ordinance. [01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.000] That's literally what the letter [01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.000] says in response to his appeal. [01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:21.000] Wait. [01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.000] Now, on [01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:25.000] Class C misdemeanor, [01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.000] the county court is the [01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:29.000] final appeal. [01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.000] It's not misdemeanor. It's not criminal. [01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:33.000] It's civil. [01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:35.000] But here, [01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:37.000] I don't know that there's [01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:39.000] any right, any statute [01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:41.000] that... [01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:43.000] That goes to Constitution. [01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:45.000] It denies your right to appeal, period. [01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.000] Right to due process [01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.000] of law under the fourteenth [01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:51.000] amendment, which is protected for criminal. [01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.000] No, no. You have a right to due [01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.000] process of law, even in civil. [01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.000] That's right. [01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.000] Let me see what it says. [01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:03.000] Okay. And also, we have doc from [01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:05.000] PNAC, [01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.000] Project for New American Citizens, [01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:09.000] and we've got about five minutes left. So, Aaron, [01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.000] I want to try to wrap it up [01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.000] because I want to take doc, okay? [01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.000] Very good. I'm going to be in Austin this weekend. [01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.000] Hope to give you all a call, maybe have lunch and give you a check. [01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.000] Good. Great. [01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.000] Okay. Call in on Monday. [01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000] Will it have Randy's beer fund across the top? [01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.000] Well, it might. [01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:27.000] It depends on how much of that goes to radio equipment. [01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.000] No, listen. [01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:31.000] Anything earmarked by [01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.000] our listeners to Randy's beer fund goes directly [01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000] to Randy's beer fund. [01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.000] And I've still got that nickel. [01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.000] Okay. Randy's beer fund does exist. [01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:41.000] And I do not [01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:43.000] rob Randy's beer fund for equipment, I promise. [01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.000] Somebody send me a buffalo head nickel. [01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000] Okay. Thank you, guys. [01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:49.000] Okay. Thank you, Aaron. [01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.000] Okay. We've got one more caller left. [01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.000] We've got Aaron [01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.000] from [01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:57.000] Project for New American...I'm sorry. [01:53:57.000 --> 01:53:59.000] Doc from Project for New American Systems. [01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:01.000] Doc, you with us? [01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.000] I am with you. Hey, what's on your mind tonight? [01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:05.000] Thanks for calling in. [01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.000] No problem. I'm proud to be with you. I think [01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:09.000] rule of law radio network is the best [01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.000] sounding thing I've ever heard. [01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000] Oh, my God. Thank you so much. [01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:15.000] I mean so much to me. [01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:17.000] You know, it's huge because [01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:19.000] you guys have the most pure mission, [01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.000] anyone. The fact you have a network [01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:23.000] is astounding. [01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:25.000] I love it, but that's not what I called about. [01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000] Well, I have to give [01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:29.000] credit where credit's due. [01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.000] It wasn't all just me. [01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:33.000] I did have help. [01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.000] I'm not [01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:37.000] by any means using any infrastructure from [01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:39.000] any other radio network, but I do have to say [01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.000] Wes Perkins [01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.000] is an angel, and he has guided me [01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.000] and directed me and helped me a great deal. [01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:47.000] And he's still helping me. So [01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:49.000] big hats off to [01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:51.000] Wes Tecno Perkins. [01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:53.000] Okay, go ahead, Doc. Wait a minute. I offered [01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:55.000] supervision, even though I didn't know anything [01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:57.000] about it. Okay, go on, Doc. [01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:59.000] Okay. Have you guys [01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:01.000] heard of or addressed [01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:03.000] Herring versus United States? [01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:07.000] Oh, wait a minute. You're talking about [01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:09.000] Aaron Burr? [01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.000] No, Herring. Oh, Herring. [01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.000] No. [01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:15.000] When was this case? Do you have a... Give me what the case [01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:17.000] was about. Yes, I do. [01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:19.000] It was on or about [01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:21.000] January 14th of this year. [01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:23.000] The Supreme Court ruled [01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:25.000] Wednesday. The evidence [01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.000] obtained from an unlawful arrest. [01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.000] Oh, yeah. [01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000] Yes, we talked about that. [01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000] Yeah, we talked about that [01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.000] on Thursday. [01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:37.000] I'm sorry. Yeah, we talked [01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:39.000] about that last night. Okay. [01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.000] It's scary business. Yeah, that's [01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.000] horrible. That is absolutely [01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.000] horrible. Okay. [01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:49.000] I figured that you would be... [01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.000] I was hoping that you were aware of it. Yeah, [01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:53.000] we are, and we don't know [01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:55.000] quite what to do about it right now because [01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.000] we can't [01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:59.000] file criminal charges against the [01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.000] Supreme Court justices from making a ruling [01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:03.000] like that. All we can do is do everything we can [01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.000] to try to regain control of our government [01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.000] and get these people out. And we can thank [01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:11.000] Jonathan Mosley for [01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:13.000] the propaganda campaign [01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.000] to convince the whole [01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:17.000] nation to [01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.000] support the John Robertson nomination. [01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.000] So, I'm sorry. [01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.000] I'm sorry, Mark Adams, [01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.000] but Jonathan Mosley is a [01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000] government shill, okay? I'm just going to [01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.000] say it. I've been holding my tongue for [01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:31.000] a long time, but he is. [01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:33.000] And I don't know why, Mark, you hooked up with [01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.000] that guy, but I'm telling you, he [01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:37.000] is responsible for pushing off the John [01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:39.000] Robertson nomination, not to mention many [01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:41.000] other things. And thank you, Mr. [01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.000] Mosley, okay? [01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:45.000] He thinks, he tries to purport himself to be [01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:47.000] some kind of legal schmigel [01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:49.000] reformist, but he's [01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.000] a freaking CIA shill, [01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:53.000] okay? And he makes his money off the Patriot [01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:55.000] Act. Period. [01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.000] So, go ahead, [01:56:57.000 --> 01:56:59.000] Doc. I'm sorry. [01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:01.000] I'm mad. I have, go ahead. [01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:05.000] And I think it's justifiable because this is [01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.000] a big deal. This is a really [01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:09.000] big deal. Yeah. It is [01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:11.000] a big deal, and that's why I'm going off on Mosley, [01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:13.000] okay? Because Mosley is very [01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:15.000] responsible for getting John Roberts into [01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000] the Supreme Court because he's a propagandist, [01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:19.000] okay? So, what we're going [01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.000] to have to do is we can [01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.000] expect the police to start using any [01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.000] tactics they want to because they can [01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:27.000] they can then use the [01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:29.000] evidence they get. So, we need to [01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:31.000] start going after the police themselves [01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.000] criminally. Right. I [01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.000] expect an uptick in simple [01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:37.000] mistakes. [01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:39.000] I expect a [01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000] pattern of simple mistakes. [01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.000] Yes. So, that [01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:45.000] was addressed ruling [01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:47.000] to a certain extent [01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.000] where they talked about [01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000] effectively a pattern [01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000] of [01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:55.000] mistakes. [01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000] Let's see, it was, it should be [01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:59.000] exclusionary rules should be reserved for deliberate [01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:01.000] reckless or grossly negligent conduct [01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000] or in some circumstances [01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.000] recurring systemic [01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.000] negligence. [01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:09.000] Well, the thing [01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.000] is, Doc, okay, even though [01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000] you know, the Supreme [01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000] Court made that ruling, okay, statutes [01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.000] still exist and we can still [01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.000] claim it. [01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.000] There are other remedies. And we can [01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.000] still take it into the court system. [01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:25.000] I agree. And this [01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:27.000] is not like the end all be all because [01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.000] incorporation is usually [01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000] another matter. Okay, and look, the Supreme [01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:33.000] Court has made all kinds of [01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:35.000] rulings over the decades [01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:37.000] that are completely unconstitutional [01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:39.000] and they've gotten overturned. Prohibition [01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:41.000] was a constitutional amendment. [01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:43.000] That was reversed, everything. So, [01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.000] I'm not going to give up hope. But I will say [01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000] to everyone out there in the legal reform [01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:49.000] community, do not be fooled by [01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:51.000] freaking Mr. Jonathan Mosley in Florida. [01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:53.000] I'm sorry. I've held my tongue for years. [01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:55.000] The guy is in bed with the [01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:57.000] CFR and Mark [01:58:57.000 --> 01:58:59.000] Adams. [01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:01.000] I want to know what is up, [01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.000] okay? We gotta go. Thanks [01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:05.000] for calling in, Doc. [01:59:05.000 --> 01:59:07.000] No problem. I love you guys. Okay. We'll be back [01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:09.000] Monday night. Sorry, Dan. [01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:31.000] Call back Monday. [01:59:39.000 --> 02:00:05.000] Thank you.