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[04:09.000 --> 04:16.000] Cheney said that he was the most powerful vice president in history. [04:16.000 --> 04:23.000] Cheney said that he was the most powerful vice president in history. [04:23.000 --> 04:30.000] He said that he was the most powerful vice president in history. [04:30.000 --> 04:41.000] Cheney said that he was the most powerful vice president in history. [04:41.000 --> 04:59.400] This is the Rule of Law, Rule of Law Radio. [04:59.400 --> 05:00.840] I'm Deborah Stevens. [05:00.840 --> 05:05.880] I'm here with Randy Kelton. [05:05.880 --> 05:10.600] We are back live after a break over the holidays. [05:10.600 --> 05:14.400] I've been setting up new equipment. [05:14.400 --> 05:18.440] I just wanted to make an announcement about the archives. [05:18.440 --> 05:19.640] Archives will be up. [05:19.640 --> 05:24.360] It may be a little while though because I literally have been spending every waking [05:24.360 --> 05:27.600] moment of my life setting up this new equipment. [05:27.600 --> 05:29.240] And I pretty much got it nailed down. [05:29.240 --> 05:31.720] I set up compressors and limiters today. [05:31.720 --> 05:35.920] I got all the routings, all the telephone bridges, everything. [05:35.920 --> 05:42.840] So bear with me listeners about the archives because this is pretty much a one man show [05:42.840 --> 05:44.460] here. [05:44.460 --> 05:45.960] One person show. [05:45.960 --> 05:46.960] Yeah. [05:46.960 --> 05:50.320] Well, when I say man, I mean human. [05:50.320 --> 05:54.280] Man is, you know, God made man, male and female. [05:54.280 --> 05:59.520] So at any rate, we have a guest tonight. [05:59.520 --> 06:01.240] We have Ben Drumm. [06:01.240 --> 06:03.720] So Randy, why don't you introduce our guest? [06:03.720 --> 06:12.080] Okay, Ben Drumm is, he has taken on the IRS with their IRS tax liens in Dallas and pretty [06:12.080 --> 06:16.840] well kicked their behinds until they got the judges involved and now he's going after the [06:16.840 --> 06:17.840] judges. [06:17.840 --> 06:22.400] Ben, you want to kind of bring us up to speed on how you got started and where you got to [06:22.400 --> 06:24.400] and where you're at? [06:24.400 --> 06:30.760] Well, I guess it started when I questioned my tax liability. [06:30.760 --> 06:37.760] And from that point, you know, after a while you get a notice of a federal tax lien filed [06:37.760 --> 06:41.560] at a county where you live. [06:41.560 --> 06:43.120] I live in Dallas County. [06:43.120 --> 06:52.640] So the recorder I come to find out receives these notices of liens in a packet. [06:52.640 --> 06:58.160] Maybe there's 20 or 30 at a time and they just, I think they mail them in from Ohio [06:58.160 --> 07:06.080] is what I finally found out and then they record them against people. [07:06.080 --> 07:15.200] But I guess the real key, if we want to simplify it is, I'm looking at Google right now. [07:15.200 --> 07:28.480] I typed in 28 USC 3201 and you hit search and you'll find out that it's required according [07:28.480 --> 07:35.800] to the federal debt collection procedure that the, and you know, it's an assumption that [07:35.800 --> 07:44.760] the agency internal revenue service has to follow the federal debt collection procedure [07:44.760 --> 07:50.320] and they have to follow state laws when filing a lien. [07:50.320 --> 07:55.640] And the state law in Texas says that they have to have an abstract of judgment and that [07:55.640 --> 08:02.160] really is exactly what 28 USC 3201 also says. [08:02.160 --> 08:05.560] It's titled judgment lien. [08:05.560 --> 08:09.800] And I was going to read it. [08:09.800 --> 08:10.800] Hold on a minute. [08:10.800 --> 08:16.440] A lot of times I go to Cornell Law, I don't know if our listeners are, a lot of them are [08:16.440 --> 08:18.840] probably familiar with that. [08:18.840 --> 08:29.400] Let me open up another one because I'd like to read 28 USC 3201 actually. [08:29.400 --> 08:30.400] So I'm in Google now. [08:30.400 --> 08:34.680] I'm going to type United States code in Cornell. [08:34.680 --> 08:41.400] All right. [08:41.400 --> 08:46.280] So Ben, you're, mainly you're talking about property tax. [08:46.280 --> 08:52.680] No, I'm talking about an internal revenue tax, an income tax. [08:52.680 --> 09:01.160] If they claim you owe it and they claim you haven't paid it and they want to secure their [09:01.160 --> 09:06.880] debt, that they claim to owe against you or that you claim to, they claim that you owe [09:06.880 --> 09:07.880] them. [09:07.880 --> 09:08.880] Okay. [09:08.880 --> 09:16.960] So they file a notice of a federal tax lien. [09:16.960 --> 09:19.480] You don't have one Debra? [09:19.480 --> 09:20.480] Have one what? [09:20.480 --> 09:23.320] A notice of federal tax lien? [09:23.320 --> 09:28.480] Yeah, well, when they claim the debt, that effectively- [09:28.480 --> 09:31.240] I don't think I need one right now actually. [09:31.240 --> 09:32.720] I'm doing pretty good on that. [09:32.720 --> 09:33.720] All right. [09:33.720 --> 09:34.720] Can I read this? [09:34.720 --> 09:35.720] Yes. [09:35.720 --> 09:36.720] Read this. [09:36.720 --> 09:37.720] I just got it. [09:37.720 --> 09:42.840] I'm in Cornell University Law School's page and I typed in under the title 28 and under [09:42.840 --> 09:48.560] the section 3201 and it's titled Judgment Leans and it's fairly short and I want to [09:48.560 --> 09:49.560] read it. [09:49.560 --> 09:54.520] Actually there's A, B, C, and then under C, one, two. [09:54.520 --> 09:55.520] I'm not going to read it all. [09:55.520 --> 09:59.720] I'm just going to read A, the creation of a judgment lien. [09:59.720 --> 10:10.440] It says, a judgment in a civil action shall create a lien on all real property of a judgment [10:10.440 --> 10:18.800] debtor on filing a certified copy of the abstract of the judgment in the manner in which a notice [10:18.800 --> 10:27.320] of tax lien would be filed under paragraphs one and two of section 6323F of the Internal [10:27.320 --> 10:32.240] Revenue Code of 1986. [10:32.240 --> 10:36.600] What they're saying is there has to be a civil action. [10:36.600 --> 10:44.480] There has to be a judgment and what it says in 6323F is that they have to follow the state [10:44.480 --> 10:45.480] law. [10:45.480 --> 10:53.960] Until the feds, IRS agents, if they want to file a federal tax lien or a notice of a federal [10:53.960 --> 11:02.280] tax lien in a county against your property, they have to have an abstract of a judgment [11:02.280 --> 11:05.400] and they have to file it according to state law. [11:05.400 --> 11:08.160] I have a question about that. [11:08.160 --> 11:17.760] We were in Pennsylvania and this issue came up and Deborah found in the Pennsylvania Code [11:17.760 --> 11:27.760] where the IRS had a special exemption from the Fair Debt Collection Act. [11:27.760 --> 11:34.040] Are you familiar with that? [11:34.040 --> 11:42.240] I want to distinguish between the Fair Debt Collection Act and the Federal Debt Collection [11:42.240 --> 11:43.240] Procedure. [11:43.240 --> 11:49.240] I don't know much about the other one, but the Federal Debt Collection Procedure is in [11:49.240 --> 11:58.320] Title 28 and it starts about Section, I think, 3001 and may go to 3300. [11:58.320 --> 12:02.320] Randy, what is the Fair Debt Collection Act? [12:02.320 --> 12:04.560] Is it in one of the titles? [12:04.560 --> 12:10.000] Yes, it is and I'm not sure which one it's in, but in any case, the IRS is exempted from [12:10.000 --> 12:11.000] it. [12:11.000 --> 12:14.160] I've heard that in a court case also. [12:14.160 --> 12:20.440] I don't think they're exempt from following federal debt collection procedures. [12:20.440 --> 12:21.440] This is different. [12:21.440 --> 12:23.600] This is not what was exempted. [12:23.600 --> 12:30.640] If this statute references the IRS specifically, it can hardly be construed or exempted. [12:30.640 --> 12:34.080] I found an interesting website. [12:34.080 --> 12:45.560] It's the U.S. DOJ Tax Reading Room and I found it by typing 28 USC 3201 into Google and there's [12:45.560 --> 12:51.720] a letter, a PDF letter, I'm just going to start over. [12:51.720 --> 13:00.400] In Google, when I type 28 USC 3201, the letter I'm referring to is the second hit and it [13:00.400 --> 13:08.680] says, letter to United States Attorney regarding filing of abstractive judgment. [13:08.680 --> 13:16.400] It's like the U.S. Attorney is writing an underling, United States Attorney and it says, [13:16.400 --> 13:22.320] we're enclosing the original in two copies of an abstractive judgment against blank, [13:22.320 --> 13:25.720] a judgment debtor in the above case. [13:25.720 --> 13:29.500] We request that you obtain the signature of the clerk of the court on the original and [13:29.500 --> 13:35.160] thereafter arrange for its filing with the appropriate office designated by law for filing [13:35.160 --> 13:36.160] tax liens. [13:36.160 --> 13:42.560] These people have to follow some due process here and it's proof of it. [13:42.560 --> 13:52.160] You have actual proof in this form letter and if you scroll down, the next, this is [13:52.160 --> 13:55.200] called exhibit seven and it's three pages. [13:55.200 --> 14:02.280] The next page is an actual abstractive judgment form that they're supposed to fill out. [14:02.280 --> 14:09.480] I guess, transfer the information from the court order and then there's an instruction [14:09.480 --> 14:14.320] for abstractive judgment and it cites, there's legal references. [14:14.320 --> 14:27.840] First of all, it cites 28 USC 3201 and then it cites 26 USC 6323F and then 18 USC 3613 [14:27.840 --> 14:34.920] and I'm not sure, looked that up once and I wasn't sure how it all related but as I [14:34.920 --> 14:43.120] said before, the federal government or the agency IRS and these U.S. Attorneys, you know [14:43.120 --> 14:48.720] it appears from this that the U.S. Attorney really is the one that's supposed to be doing [14:48.720 --> 14:58.040] this but the IRS just doesn't end run on due process, says you owe money, says you haven't [14:58.040 --> 15:03.280] paid and they mail a notice of a federal tax lien to the clerk and these clerks are just, [15:03.280 --> 15:12.120] you know, how did Brady put it one time, you know. [15:12.120 --> 15:14.080] Terrified of the IRS? [15:14.080 --> 15:20.920] Yeah, well, they're just, you know, these are, they're, you know, they're foot trained, [15:20.920 --> 15:28.480] you know, these recorders and all these people, if it's from the IRS, they just record it. [15:28.480 --> 15:37.560] So what have you done to, I understand you got the liens removed? [15:37.560 --> 15:53.360] I had, there is a motion to go before a judge, ex parte, that motion is found in Texas Government [15:53.360 --> 16:06.800] Code 51.903 and if you read that and take all your information and part of what we just [16:06.800 --> 16:15.920] spoke about is key to, when you do your motion and you present it to the judge, ex parte, [16:15.920 --> 16:17.600] that means without the other party. [16:17.600 --> 16:20.960] Okay, tell us what the motion's about. [16:20.960 --> 16:26.120] Well the motion is presenting all your evidence that you have that shows that the notice of [16:26.120 --> 16:29.160] lien the IRS has recorded. 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[18:17.720 --> 18:32.360] If I can't believe my eyes, I've got to believe my heart, If I can't believe my ears, I've [18:32.360 --> 18:41.960] got to believe my heart, Yeah, If I can't believe the newspapers, I've [18:41.960 --> 18:55.080] got to believe my heart, If I can't believe the radio, I've got to believe my heart, And [18:55.080 --> 19:06.920] my heart says whoa, wait a minute, you know I'm out here in this wilderness alone, Troubles [19:06.920 --> 19:16.040] you bring to me make me feel like stone, Just because you can't find belief in this reality, [19:16.040 --> 19:44.040] Reality, Reality, Reality, Reality, Reality, [19:44.040 --> 20:03.040] I keep finding myself in places Where I've got to believe my heart [20:03.040 --> 20:12.040] Not much to go on in some cases So I've got to believe my heart [20:12.040 --> 20:21.040] I keep finding myself in situations Where I've got to believe my heart [20:21.040 --> 20:30.040] I might not possess the proper education So I've got to believe my heart [20:30.040 --> 20:47.040] And my heart said, whoa, wait a minute, wait and see I know you truly want what's best for me And I'll try to be just what you want me to be [20:47.040 --> 21:02.040] Okay, we are back. This is the Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio. Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, we are here with a very special guest, Ben Drum, talking about notice of liens. Go ahead, Ben. [21:02.040 --> 21:21.040] Okay. Randy asked about the motion I filed in the Texas District Court in Dallas to remove the lien. And it's Section 51.903 in the Texas Government Code. [21:21.040 --> 21:36.040] And it's titled Action on Fraudulent Lien or Action on Fraudulent Lien on Property. And you have to do a little reading and there's a template and you fill it out and go before a judge. [21:36.040 --> 21:46.040] You can go without the other, you know, the people that filed, which in my case was the IRS. They're not even a party. [21:46.040 --> 21:53.040] And legislatures allowed it to be that way. Usually it's not that way. Usually everybody has to be there. [21:53.040 --> 22:08.040] But with this particular motion in Texas Government Code 51.903, you can file it and the judge looked at it and agreed and signed the order. [22:08.040 --> 22:28.040] And there's no charge. There's no filing fee. And when you get your order, you can take it to the, it specifies that you can go to the county clerk and they must record it in the same section that your lien was filed. [22:28.040 --> 22:42.040] And this is all dependent on you being able to prove that the notice of lien or the lien filed against your property is not perfected in some way. [22:42.040 --> 23:01.040] Wait a minute. If I remember right in looking through the code on this particular subject, I did some research on it for someone a while back. It seems you can request that the person who put the lien on remove it. [23:01.040 --> 23:11.040] And if they fail to within, I think it was 20 days, that's a felony in Texas. Are you familiar with that one? [23:11.040 --> 23:28.040] That's part of, you know, Texas Government Code 51 is entitled Clerks. And there's a lot of material in, and this subject you just brought up is in there. [23:28.040 --> 23:51.040] I think the wording is, if the clerk, if you can present a reasonable doubt, that's the wording, I believe, if it can be shown, if you can show, give the clerk reasonable doubt that a lien against you wasn't properly filed, [23:51.040 --> 24:05.040] then their duty is to write this letter you just said. Whoever the lien filer was, then it's up to the clerk then to write that person a letter, and then they have 20 days. [24:05.040 --> 24:16.040] And I think the wording is failure to remove a fraudulent lien. That's what they're charged with, or the penal code violation, I believe it is. [24:16.040 --> 24:33.040] Yes, that was a felony. Did you pursue the clerk to do that? Well, better yet, we're kind of starting in the middle. Kind of go over the top and give us kind of a synopsis of what has happened so far in your case, and then we'll come back to the details. [24:33.040 --> 24:47.040] Well, after I got the order from the judge, she was a, I want to call her an assistant judge. That's not the right term. [24:47.040 --> 25:04.040] She wasn't. This judge was not the, it was in the 192nd court, and the court wasn't there, the judge wasn't there, so there's alternate judges you can go to. [25:04.040 --> 25:23.040] And after 60 days, what happened was another person came and did the exact same procedure, and this same judge signed it. Another one. And then another person came and did the same thing, but went before a different judge. [25:23.040 --> 25:44.040] And that person had our orders as proof that this was a proper action. And then when that second judge saw all this, she called the judge that signed my order and questioned her on it. [25:44.040 --> 26:07.040] And then later the judge called me and said she was going to vacate the order because the Department of Justice had called her after that and said I was violating an anti-injection act which states that no lien or no suit shall be brought that hinders the assessment or collection of taxes. [26:07.040 --> 26:16.040] That's not what this is about at all. This is about their following due process and filing a lien, not me hindering assessment or collection. [26:16.040 --> 26:28.040] But to answer your question, so I get a judge to sign it, then she vacates the order, and her order was vacated after her plenary power expired. [26:28.040 --> 26:44.040] And so I put a motion in to quash the vacate order, and it got signed. So I'm back again. This is not easy. I mean, if we're going to try to say here before the audience that it's easy, it's not. [26:44.040 --> 27:01.040] You have to know the law and you have to know the rules and the court rules. And so anyway, I'm on top again, and the order that was issued is filed as a release of tax lien under my name. [27:01.040 --> 27:19.040] But then an unusual thing happened is the federal government stepped in and they did a petition to intervene. And so they intervened in the case and removed it supposedly, but they didn't have jurisdiction because it was in the state court. [27:19.040 --> 27:22.040] Now, if this is getting too complicated, just stop, Mary Ann. [27:22.040 --> 27:27.040] No, no, no, not at all. No, our listeners are very sophisticated. Go ahead. [27:27.040 --> 27:41.040] Okay, okay. Well, so anyway, it's a state court issue. I get an order saying that liens are fraudulent. Then the judge that signed it gets pressured. She vacates. [27:41.040 --> 27:51.040] Then I get the vacate order quashed. Then the federal government comes in. This is the Department of Justice, a fellow by the name of Wayman DeBose. [27:51.040 --> 28:06.040] He has a petition to intervene and removes the case. And so then I looked in the rules in the O'Connor's book and it said the proper action is to do a motion to strike the petition to intervene. [28:06.040 --> 28:24.040] And I did. And I said a state court hearing. So this all is still a state court issue. So this Mr. DeBose has a duty to come to state court and answer how he has an interest in my case. [28:24.040 --> 28:37.040] See, I'm saying they haven't followed due process to perfect this lien. So if they don't really have a lien, then they don't really have interest, right? But he's intervening like he does have interest. [28:37.040 --> 28:58.040] And so then he gets Judge Buckmeyer in Dallas to sign an order saying that basically he signs an injunction order against me saying I can't plead in the state court anymore. And then he sends that order in there and they just basically shut me off and I don't get my hearing. [28:58.040 --> 29:22.040] But let me just say this. The original order sign saying the notices of lien were fraudulent are still in the record. And there has been nothing filed subsequent to that saying the orders are not valid anyway. [29:22.040 --> 29:38.040] So that's where I'm at. Incredible. All right. Listen, Ben, we're going to break when we get back. We're going to hear more from you on this story. We'll be right back. This is the rule of law. [29:38.040 --> 29:53.040] All right. [29:53.040 --> 30:09.040] This is the rule of law. [30:09.040 --> 30:24.040] This is the rule of law. [30:24.040 --> 30:52.040] This is the rule of law. [30:52.040 --> 31:16.040] This is the rule of law. [31:16.040 --> 31:29.040] Some people are preaching ideas with which I may not agree, because they want the world to be the way they think it should be. When I hear that judgment passes, saying hang on, I'm wondering if they're living the life they're preaching about to be. [31:29.040 --> 31:47.040] Living up is difficult enough to be full of people that makes it prohibitively rough. Many words aren't true in the songs we sing, but in my heart I pray we're not going to bring any damage on the stones thrown by the people living in the plate glass homes. [31:47.040 --> 32:06.040] I feel the pain, but it's all right. Rain, but it's all right. Pain, but it's all right. [32:06.040 --> 32:18.040] Rain down thunderstorm, I do the one I'm going to do, just like a charm. [32:18.040 --> 32:37.040] Making rocks down after me once again, it's like in my brain, I catch a migraine. Juicing up the crack arrow in a cocaine. Coming out the dance and you want to give me the blame. Crouching up a man and say you're walking very lame. Coming out the session and you walk into shame. [32:37.040 --> 32:48.040] Goosey goosey got the way you walk, it's so strange. It's like in all your brain, man, you get to rearrange. I'm not going to love or seek, I'm not going to deal with damage. [32:48.040 --> 33:14.040] All right, we are back. We're not going to look, not going to seek, we're not going to deal with no damage. Damage, that's Route 1, the other band that I am a part of. And we're going to go back now to Ben Drum. And Ben, you were saying on the break about now we need to file a federal writ of mandamus? [33:14.040 --> 33:23.040] That's what I need to do against this federal judge that ordered me not to plead in the state courts. [33:23.040 --> 33:29.040] So go into that. What would be the nature of this mandamus? What would you be asking for? [33:29.040 --> 33:52.040] He violated, it's 28 USC, I believe it's 2283. And it says that the federal judge cannot tell a state court what to do, basically. That's my version of it. [33:52.040 --> 34:15.040] He exercised an authority he doesn't have. And in the process denied you in the full and free access to or enjoyment of a right. 18 U.S. Code 242. And you haven't filed criminal charges against him yet. What is the deal, Bubba? [34:15.040 --> 34:38.040] Well, against the judge, that judge. You know, I filed criminal complaints against the U.S. attorney that intervened. And I just submitted those to the Texas attorney general. [34:38.040 --> 34:49.040] Very, you know, like maybe two weeks ago. I think I sent you a copy of those. Are you going to help me do something about this? I don't want to be out here in the cold all alone. [34:49.040 --> 34:56.040] The attorney general has no prosecutorial power in this matter. You must file with a district attorney. [34:56.040 --> 35:02.040] In Dallas County? Yes. Against that federal judge? [35:02.040 --> 35:16.040] Yeah. Well, actually, you don't even have to file with a district attorney if you don't want to. Just mail a set of complaints to every grand jury member for every grand jury they have. [35:16.040 --> 35:29.040] I would send it to them. Find out which district judge consecrated the grand jury. Which one is convened under each one of them. What have they got, four? [35:29.040 --> 35:35.040] Can you hear me, Ben? Are you asking me? Yeah. Doesn't Dallas County have four grand juries? [35:35.040 --> 35:46.040] I know they have at least two. Okay. I think they have four. So what you do is you go down and you find out which district judges have a grand jury. [35:46.040 --> 36:05.040] And then you make up 12 sets of complaints for each grand jury. And you can ask them for their names. Sometimes the clerk will give it to you without a fight. Sometimes they won't. But even if they don't, you send them to grand jury member 1, 2, 3, through 12. [36:05.040 --> 36:17.040] And you address them to the judge's office. You don't put the judge's name on it. You just put his address on it and send it registered mail. [36:17.040 --> 36:35.040] And you file a motion with the court to appoint an attorney pro tem. You file a sample complaint with the district court and a motion to file an attorney pro tem to prosecute the prosecuting attorney for not pursuing these to start with. [36:35.040 --> 36:52.040] Oh wait, no, I'm ahead of myself. You hadn't filed with the district attorney yet. So just file them with the judge. And then go down a couple weeks later, check the minutes of the grand jury and see if you find a true bill, no bill, or pass. [36:52.040 --> 37:06.040] And if you don't, then you have reason to believe the judge interfered with the U.S. mail and secreted these documents from the grand jury. [37:06.040 --> 37:25.040] So you seek the postal inspectors on the judge and charge the judge with the official oppression. Violates a law relating to his office. I think I forget which U.S. mail one that is, 3806 or something of the mail code. I looked that up once. [37:25.040 --> 37:46.040] You accuse him of interfering with U.S. mail and denying you in your right to petition the government for redress of grievance. And you file a motion to disqualify the judge and a motion to disqualify the judge. [37:46.040 --> 37:55.040] We didn't get to the prosecutor. What's the prosecutor's name there? I just remembered it a minute ago. Craig Watkins. [37:55.040 --> 37:56.040] Right. [37:56.040 --> 38:00.040] Haven't you already filed criminal charges in the past with him? [38:00.040 --> 38:01.040] Right. [38:01.040 --> 38:18.040] So now you can bypass him because you have a history of filing with him and he violated law when you filed with him. So just go straight after the district judge. And when the district judge doesn't give it to the grand jury, file against the district judge with the district attorney. [38:18.040 --> 38:32.040] And do the same thing with the district attorney when he doesn't give it to the grand jury. Yeah, file charges against the federal judge with the district judge. Hell no. [38:32.040 --> 38:40.040] I'm sorry. Hades no. Nobody's immune from criminal prosecution. Nobody. [38:40.040 --> 38:42.040] They're immune from civil litigation. [38:42.040 --> 38:45.040] I thought these federal judges were immune. [38:45.040 --> 38:52.040] Again. No way. Put your face up next to the microphone. I'm going to whack you right through it. [38:52.040 --> 38:59.040] Judges are immune from civil litigation. Nobody is immune from criminal prosecution. Nobody is above the law. [38:59.040 --> 39:03.040] Yeah. Well, that's what I thought. [39:03.040 --> 39:16.040] There is no law on the books. There is no case law. There is nothing anywhere in our jurisprudence that says that anyone is above criminal prosecution. [39:16.040 --> 39:35.040] Let me tell you about 18 U.S. Code 242. 18 U.S. Code 242 is part of the Ku Klux Klan Act passed in 1871. Most people are familiar with 42 U.S. Code 1983. That's also part of the Ku Klux Klan Act. [39:35.040 --> 40:01.040] But that's the second part. 18242? Yeah, 18242. 42 U.S. Code 1983 is the one that makes a public official subject to civil suit if he violates the law relating to his office or fails to perform a duty he's required to perform and in the process denies a citizen full and free access to her enjoyment of right. [40:01.040 --> 40:17.040] That's the second half of the Ku Klux Klan Act. The first half made it a crime. In 1867, Senator Trumbull, who proposed the act, stood on the House floor and said, this is during the Reconstruction right after the Civil War, [40:17.040 --> 40:42.040] in the South, different punishments are flowing from the same crimes if you are white or if you are black. And that was the reason for the statute. He went on to say, the arrest and prosecution of a couple of officials in the South, preferably high level officials, will serve to put an end to this whole sorted business. [40:42.040 --> 40:59.040] That presentation was clearly talking about judges. 18 U.S. Code 242 was put in place to prosecute judges with. We need to prosecute judges with it. [40:59.040 --> 41:13.040] I would say. Let me read you this statute that he violated. It's the 2283. It's called Stay of State Court Proceedings. It's like three lines. [41:13.040 --> 41:32.040] A court of the United States may not grant an injunction to stay proceedings in a state court except as expressly authorized by act of Congress or were necessary in aid of its jurisdiction or to protect or effectuate its judgments. [41:32.040 --> 41:52.040] See, he didn't have jurisdiction at all. So it's not necessary to aid of his jurisdiction because he just flat didn't have any. There was a state court hearing set and he told the state court not to let me plead anymore, the son of a bleep. What do you think about that crap? [41:52.040 --> 41:54.040] The son of a what? [41:54.040 --> 42:07.040] The son of a bleep. Oh, a bleep. I think you should file criminal charges and do everything you can to get that federal judge in front of a state grand jury. [42:07.040 --> 42:12.040] The federal judge is going to have to watch you doing that and there's nothing he can do about it. [42:12.040 --> 42:31.040] You can hammer all four grand juries and they're like Travis County. Travis has got three. I think Dallas has got four and they change them every three months. You got 16 grand juries a year that you can hammer on. Anybody gets in your way, you hammer on them. [42:31.040 --> 42:53.040] This works. This frightens everybody. You file against the judge with the judge. You file against the federal judge with the grand jury at the district judge's office and district judge, especially if you send him a copy [42:53.040 --> 43:08.040] and demand that he act in his capacity as a magistrate, he's absolutely going to refuse. Then you get to file charges against him, move to disqualify him, and file all these with the district attorney and the district attorney is going to refuse to prosecute the judge. [43:08.040 --> 43:23.040] Then you get to file against the district attorney with a motion pro tem to appoint a special prosecutor to prosecute the district attorney and you just create one ongoing mess for them so everything they do makes it worse. [43:23.040 --> 43:52.040] I have a question. Wait a minute. We're going to break. We're going to break, Ben. Save your question for the other side. We'll be right back. This is a rule of law. [43:52.040 --> 44:06.040] Stock markets are taking hit after hit. Corrupt bankers are choking on subprime debt. The Fed is busy printing dollars, dollars, and more dollars to bail out Wall Street banks and the U.S. car industry. 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The river is cold, I've got to love to warm up all my soul. The river is strong, give me strength if I can carry on. [45:50.040 --> 46:02.040] The river is deep, so my seeds is just like I need. The river is cold, give me strength if I can carry on. The river is strong, give me strength if I can carry on. [46:02.040 --> 46:23.040] The river is in the sand, and I hope and pray you'll help me understand. I'm just glad to know that I'm part of your plan, and I know my fate is right to say that you have. The rain just falls, the sounds of your voice, I hear you whine and call. [46:23.040 --> 46:43.040] The rain is so hard, it makes a heavy load upon my heart. The rain is my soul, to know your love will be my hide and go. Can't stop the rain, can't stop it when the cost of fees goes. [46:43.040 --> 47:10.040] The rain is so hard, it makes a heavy load upon my heart. The rain is my soul, to know your love will be my hide and go. Can't stop the rain, can't stop it when the cost of fees goes. [47:10.040 --> 47:34.040] Food creates, whoa, jah, jah, jah. Food creates, help us in this time. [47:34.040 --> 47:49.040] I have seen your footprints in the sand, and I hope and pray you'll help me understand. I'm just glad to know that I'm part of your plan, and I know my fate is right to say that you have. [47:49.040 --> 48:14.040] Food creates, whoa, jah, jah, jah. Food creates, help us in this time. [48:14.040 --> 48:28.040] I have seen your footprints in the sand, and I hope and pray you'll help me understand. I'm just glad to know that I'm part of your plan, and I know my fate is right to say that you have. [48:28.040 --> 48:44.040] Food creates, whoa, jah, jah, jah. Food creates, help us in this time. [48:44.040 --> 49:12.040] I have seen your footprints in the sand, and I hope and pray you'll help me understand. I'm just glad to know that you have. [49:12.040 --> 49:32.040] I know the harm is still occurring. You're being denied your rights as we speak, so you're still being harmed by it. But that is an interesting question. You needed to already have that filed. [49:32.040 --> 49:48.040] And it's just a matter of, a lot of people in these situations can probably relate. Your focus is away from business and things, and you start needing to make money, and time goes by, and you still haven't filed complaints. [49:48.040 --> 50:07.040] So I think you answered my question. I think when I, I had filed complaints before against the agents and the clerk, and I did present them to the grand jury. I made 12 copies, and I felt like I got railroaded the first time. [50:07.040 --> 50:22.040] You know, it's a matter of persistence, isn't it? Yeah, that's the whole point, is you use everything they do to go back at them with. If you try to do something and somebody interferes the first time, and you just say, oh, well, that didn't work. [50:22.040 --> 50:38.040] Well, that didn't work is not in my vocabulary. Somebody screwed it up, now I've got somebody else to go after, and we just keep crank turning the screws and making it worse for them. [50:38.040 --> 50:52.040] So if it's been two years on the judge, it may be getting too late, but you can try it anyway. You don't let him raise the argument. You go down and hammer the grand jury and tell them what a scumbag he is. [50:52.040 --> 51:06.040] And you know, make a story that an ordinary person would find outrageous, and you might have a grand jury in there who has a lien against them. So you never know. [51:06.040 --> 51:10.040] We have some calls. Yes. [51:10.040 --> 51:15.040] Yes, we have some callers. [51:15.040 --> 51:20.040] We've got Alan in California. Alan, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? [51:20.040 --> 51:37.040] Yeah, I'm a researcher, and I've been researching for like 28 years, legal master on 18, and I have a website, and I'm helping a lady named Star. And she's a great researcher herself and a talented musician. She's got some legal problems. [51:37.040 --> 51:55.040] Anyway, she's got some great research, too, and I would advise people, if they want to find out a lot of information that is very vital today, get on Google and put in Earthica Star. [51:55.040 --> 52:02.040] What type of research does she do? [52:02.040 --> 52:10.040] Well, just about everything, 9-11, every major issue that's going on today. She's got like 12 websites. [52:10.040 --> 52:16.040] But I wanted to also give you guys some information about this man's problem. [52:16.040 --> 52:33.040] He says that there was a state jurisdictional issue, a federal tax lien, and what he's going to find out if he does more research is this, that what they're doing federally to him removing and all that removal is based on a case ruling. [52:33.040 --> 52:57.040] He goes back to a case called U.S. v. Butler, 1936, 297 U.S. 1, and this was a case where for the first time the U.S. Supreme Court ruled, in fact, that the federal government, when it comes to collecting taxes and spending or funding, is not limited to the provisions of Article 1, Section 8 of the Federal Constitution, [52:57.040 --> 53:06.040] which includes subparagraph 17, which of course limits their jurisdiction in states to where there's a legislative session of territory. [53:06.040 --> 53:11.040] And this has been done under emergency war powers, executive emergency war powers. [53:11.040 --> 53:20.040] This was a case about executive emergency war powers, and we've been under that since they took us off the gold standard, and we've been under these Federal Reserve notes. That's the problem. [53:20.040 --> 53:32.040] And that's why they're doing this to him, why they're just taking it out of state court, and he's going to be finding out that he's bumping his head against a brick wall, and that's what the issue is. [53:32.040 --> 53:45.040] It's the ultimate issue of jurisdiction, and it's under that case, and I suggest you get on my website, nahls.org, stands for North American Historical Law Society, and read my two newsletters. [53:45.040 --> 53:52.040] There's two free newsletters there for download, and all the keys to the whole thing, the whole problem is in there. [53:52.040 --> 53:55.040] What's the site again? [53:55.040 --> 54:22.040] Nahls, the letters, it stands for North American Historical Law Society, the first letters, nahls.org. That's it. And you'll find that the Butler case is the key. When you go into a jurisdictional motion and say the federal government doesn't have any jurisdiction in the state, because the federal government is limited under Article 1, Section 8, subparagraph 17, [54:22.040 --> 54:36.040] to territories and, you know, forts, magazines, arsenals, and stuff like that, and they're limited to places in the state where they have a session of territory from the state government, and they have to go by state law to do that. [54:36.040 --> 54:45.040] And you'll find out that that's all been waived, okay? What happened is, and the governors of the states are really to blame for all this. [54:45.040 --> 54:53.040] Wait, wait, wait. When you read the case, when you cited it before, you said in matters of collection of taxes. [54:53.040 --> 55:00.040] Taxing, the power to tax, and that includes collecting, and that's what he's talking about, liens, that's part of the collection process. [55:00.040 --> 55:11.040] Well, that was the point he made. No, it's not. The filing of the lien is secondary to the collection of the tax. [55:11.040 --> 55:16.040] Well, what they're going to tell you is that that's not the case. I guarantee it. You can make all the arguments you want. [55:16.040 --> 55:19.040] Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I can make all the arguments I want. [55:19.040 --> 55:21.040] So what's the ruling? You say the ruling is on your side? [55:21.040 --> 55:25.040] Wait a minute. Have you shepardized this thing? It's a 1936 case? [55:25.040 --> 55:36.040] Yeah, well, we've not shepardized it. We've tested it in court. Tested it in court, okay? I've got the rulings from federal district courts on the issue, published rulings, that say they go all the way back to this case. [55:36.040 --> 55:41.040] So what does it say? They go back to the U.S. versus Butler for the jurisdiction of the federal government. [55:41.040 --> 55:54.040] Okay, if the government says anything in any way remotely connected to tax, the states have absolutely zero jurisdiction, is that what you're saying? [55:54.040 --> 56:03.040] No, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that they're claiming that the federal government has jurisdiction, period, straight across the board. [56:03.040 --> 56:10.040] It's a federal question, period, okay? There isn't any state issue, because what it's based on is you don't understand. [56:10.040 --> 56:21.040] Back in 1933, when they took us off the gold standard, what happened is all the governors signed an emergency petition. [56:21.040 --> 56:27.040] Roosevelt gave it to them and asked for federal assistance, okay, inside the state under these banking emergencies. [56:27.040 --> 56:37.040] And it's all related to the currency, which is also tied into taxes. And what they said was, we have these emergencies in the states and banking, and we might have civil unrest. [56:37.040 --> 56:49.040] Well, read Article 4, Section 4, okay? Article 4, Section 4 of the federal government allows the federal government to come in and give aid to the states in times of, you know, where there's threatened, you know, civil unrest and all that. [56:49.040 --> 57:01.040] And that's what they did. When they did that, they waived Article 10, the sovereign immunity of the states, okay, which makes every state a sovereign separate nation. [57:01.040 --> 57:03.040] Okay, look at the federal Constitution. [57:03.040 --> 57:05.040] Wait a minute, you're really not— [57:05.040 --> 57:07.040] It's the 10th Amendment. It's the 10th Amendment. [57:07.040 --> 57:18.040] Wait a minute, you sound like Ralph Winnerud now. You're so general. If I'm getting this right, you're saying that the states have zero jurisdiction over anything. Is that what I'm getting? [57:18.040 --> 57:20.040] Is that what I'm getting? And the federal government has— [57:20.040 --> 57:22.040] Look, stop hollering. [57:22.040 --> 57:26.040] Well, there's a federal question. They don't have any. That's what they're saying. [57:26.040 --> 57:27.040] Listen. [57:27.040 --> 57:37.040] Well, let me ask you this. Does that also say they don't have to follow due process at all? They just can do whatever they want? [57:37.040 --> 58:02.040] Look, you're being so general. You're saying what I'm getting from you is that if the federal government claims an interest of any kind, the governors have waived the rights of the state. Is it that general? [58:07.040 --> 58:26.040] All right, look, we're going to break. We're going to talk about this some more on the other side. We'll be right back. We have other callers on the line, too. George from Texas, Randy from Austin, Gary from Texas, and more. We'll be right back. [58:26.040 --> 58:41.040] That guy seemed like a screwball. 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All you people on the job, blessed moon, stars, and souls, come together, let we act upon. Do it! [01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:36.040] They came from Jerusalem, they came from Rome. They were just looking for someplace else to call home. They came from Babylon, they came from Zion. They had plenty of money, just enough to get by. [01:00:36.040 --> 01:00:54.040] They came from the Congo, they came from the North. Sometimes forced to check their cultures and they die on the roots of trade. [01:00:54.040 --> 01:01:11.040] I'm talking to the young, I'm talking to the old. I'm talking to the one running around hardcore. Some of them, I tell you, man, I see them face to unfold. But I don't see Jaja either, cause I let we love one another. People let we love one another. [01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:28.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from Harvard, they came from Yale. Came from the mental health center and the county jail. [01:01:28.040 --> 01:01:44.040] They've been to Vietnam, they've been to Canada. Been to the Persian Gulf and they've been down to Grenada. If not for the war they might have been anyway, still it's ashes to ashes. [01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:58.040] And click to click out on the roots trade. We're working on the roots trade. We're working on the roots trade. We're working on the roots trade. [01:01:58.040 --> 01:02:14.040] Stop with the forcing, stop with the fighting. Let's try a little love and some ferocity. And you say stop with the forcing, stop with the fighting. Let's try a little love and some uniting. I mean to love one another. People need to love one another. [01:02:14.040 --> 01:02:32.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from the same place we all know. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. [01:02:32.040 --> 01:02:51.040] The skin got every color, they've been dancing to a different drum. They've been fighting when cornered and they've all been on the love song. I got something you need, you got something I could use. We got the whole world again. Not much to lose out on the roots trade. [01:02:51.040 --> 01:03:13.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from the same place we all know. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. [01:03:21.040 --> 01:03:41.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. I got something you need, you got something I could use. We got the whole world again. Not much to lose out on the roots trade. [01:03:41.040 --> 01:04:01.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from the same place we all know. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. I got something you need, you got something I could use. We got the whole world again. Not much to lose out on the roots trade. [01:04:01.040 --> 01:04:21.040] I tell you, let we love one another. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. I got something you need, you got something I could use. We got the whole world again. Not much to lose out on the roots trade. [01:04:21.040 --> 01:04:47.040] Alright, we are back. The rule of law. Rule of law radio. [01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:51.040] Okay, Randy, you had an answer for our caller Alan. [01:04:51.040 --> 01:05:07.040] No, I'm not even going to answer Alan. Alan's been on before. And he's tried to come on our show and use our show for an infomercial and then tell us all how stupid we are. And then start with these general accusations like everything we're doing is worth listening. [01:05:07.040 --> 01:05:26.040] I'm not going to argue with callers over the show. And folks, I apologize for letting him frustrate me that way. And we'll move along. I'll try not to get frustrated like that again. Let's go to our next caller. [01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:30.040] Alright, we got George from Texas. Hey, George, thanks for calling and what's on your mind tonight? [01:05:30.040 --> 01:05:32.040] Happy New Year, Deborah. Happy New Year. [01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:34.040] Happy New Year. Thank you, George. [01:05:34.040 --> 01:05:45.040] Yes, I just want to know what's your New Year's resolution to buy stock in Maylocks to see the judges start taking it? [01:05:45.040 --> 01:06:07.040] By stocking XLACs and send it to them. Russell Mortland just told me a joke about Texans the other day and that comment just reminded me of it. He said he worked with a fellow that was real short and he really liked Texas. He was always wearing a big belt buckle and cowboy hat. [01:06:07.040 --> 01:06:18.040] He said one day they were at work and a truck driver was backed up to their dock and he saw this guy step around the corner and said the guy was like 4'11". He was a real small guy. [01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:31.040] And the truck driver just started laughing like crazy, fell down on the ground rolling around laughing. They run up to him asking, what's wrong with you? And he told him that was the first Texan he ever saw that got the crap kicked out of him. [01:06:31.040 --> 01:06:41.040] Well, I would like to see some smaller judges, frankly. So maybe we'll buy stock in XLACs and send it to them. [01:06:41.040 --> 01:07:03.040] Yes. But you know the thing is, I sat there and I saw, like, I'm just getting mad. You heard of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. She keeps passing these hate crime bills, trying to pass these hate crime bills. And what part of Congress shall not make no law abridging the freedom of speech she don't understand? [01:07:03.040 --> 01:07:19.040] Interesting you should bring up hate crimes. I was just talking to someone today about hate crime bills. And it was his opinion that we don't really need them. We already have laws in place to handle those kinds of situations. [01:07:19.040 --> 01:07:33.040] And over the last four or five hundred years of the development of English law and into American law, we have all the law we need to handle that. [01:07:33.040 --> 01:07:54.040] Well, here's my take on the hate crimes business, okay? You're trying to judge a person's motivation in their mind, all right, when they commit a crime. Well, if you assault somebody, you assault somebody. If you hit somebody, you hit somebody. If you kill somebody, you kill somebody. [01:07:54.040 --> 01:08:12.040] What does it matter if you're killing somebody because you're a racial bigot or just because you're mugging them? It's still murder, all right? And it's all a big cover and a big scheme to suppress freedom of speech. [01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:32.040] And oh, well, you can't say something. It might hurt somebody's feelings. We have to make that a crime. Well, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Grow up, people. That's what I say to people who believe in the hate speech BS. Grow up, okay? [01:08:32.040 --> 01:08:47.040] And she hit right on what the problem I have with it is, is it's a now we're trying to legislate thought crimes. And it's not just hate legislation, you know, that's the thing that kind of cracked the door open. [01:08:47.040 --> 01:09:05.040] Now with the Homeland Security, they're trying to make it a crime for you to say anything they don't like. Then they'll call you a terrorist. If you object to the government, you're a terrorist. So we're moving more into thought crimes and shades of George Orwell. [01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:23.040] Well, and at the risk of being a conspiracy theorist, this is my take on this whole hate speech too. If you really look into it, it's all the ADL is all behind it. Okay. And I believe the reason is because they want to stop the preaching of the gospel. [01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:39.040] I think they don't like it that Christians say that the Jews crucified Jesus because it makes them look bad. Well, too bad. That's what happened. And I'll say it loud and clear. [01:09:39.040 --> 01:09:54.040] Well, I could jump in on that religious stuff. You know, Jesus said I'm the way and no one else can do what he does. That's the big deal. And I won't say anything else unless you ask me to. [01:09:54.040 --> 01:09:58.040] I think, you know, some Jews crucified Jesus, but not these Jews. [01:09:58.040 --> 01:09:59.040] Yeah, really? [01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:00.040] Some did. [01:10:00.040 --> 01:10:03.040] That's right. So what's the big deal? It's historic fact. [01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:09.040] Some white folks enslaved some black folks, but I didn't. I didn't have nothing to do with it. [01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:16.040] At any rate, the bottom line is that it's words. It's not a physical assault. [01:10:16.040 --> 01:10:23.040] We need to be careful what we ask for. We may get something that we don't like. I frankly... [01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:26.040] And we do need to be careful about what we say too, don't we? [01:10:26.040 --> 01:10:36.040] Yes, we do. And there's already plenty of legislation in place to hold us responsible for intentional damage, or even from unintentional damage. [01:10:36.040 --> 01:10:44.040] You know, intentional damage, you can get criminal. For unintentional, you can get civil. But we have all the law in place we need for that. [01:10:44.040 --> 01:10:47.040] And it's not liable if it's true. [01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:49.040] Exactly. [01:10:49.040 --> 01:10:57.040] Well, you know, kind of like I see, you know, when I was at work today, I'm the only guy that works, and the rest are women. [01:10:57.040 --> 01:11:02.040] And they made it like a joke about, you know, men and all that stuff. [01:11:02.040 --> 01:11:09.040] And some woman says, you should go to Human Resources and go to a lawyer and file a sexual harassment lawsuit. [01:11:09.040 --> 01:11:15.040] And it's like, well, I know what their intent was. They weren't really focusing on me. [01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:21.040] I mean, it was like a little poke at fun at me, but you know, it was nothing. I said, why? [01:11:21.040 --> 01:11:27.040] I said, they haven't really done anything. They haven't really harmed me in any way. [01:11:27.040 --> 01:11:37.040] So why should I take it to a next level that don't need to be? When I just said, please, it's not really, you know what I mean? [01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:44.040] But then again, you're a special case. You're a truck driver. Truck drivers are intended to be abused. [01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:52.040] Well, you know, the thing is, I rather look like a truck driver than look like a lawyer. [01:11:52.040 --> 01:11:54.040] That's true. [01:11:54.040 --> 01:11:58.040] You know, but you know, the thing is, we'll come back to this hate crime bill. [01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:06.040] Sheila Jackson Lee, do you think we can, any way we can file criminal charges against her because she did swear her nose? [01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:09.040] And she's trying to pass bill through squelch free speech. [01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:13.040] Oh, no, that's, you would not want that. [01:12:13.040 --> 01:12:15.040] No, no, no. [01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:22.040] You want the, your legislators to be able to propose any law they want to. [01:12:22.040 --> 01:12:26.040] Again, it goes to be careful what you ask for. [01:12:26.040 --> 01:12:33.040] It's not a crime for a legislator to try to pass a bill, even if it's unconstitutional, okay? [01:12:33.040 --> 01:12:34.040] Even if it's stupid. [01:12:34.040 --> 01:12:39.040] Even if they vote for an unconstitutional bill. I mean, that's why we have separation of powers. [01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:45.040] That's why we have branches of government, you know, the courts strike down unconstitutional law. [01:12:45.040 --> 01:12:53.040] I mean, we can't, if we, if it was a crime for a legislator to propose legislation that we didn't like, [01:12:53.040 --> 01:12:59.040] that would be equal to hate crimes laws, hate speech laws, okay? [01:12:59.040 --> 01:13:00.040] It's unreasonable. [01:13:00.040 --> 01:13:08.040] So basically we got the separation of powers at the federal level and divided sovereignty at the state and local level. [01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:09.040] Wait a minute. [01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:11.040] I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. [01:13:11.040 --> 01:13:13.040] Divided sovereignty? [01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:18.040] Like divided sovereignty, you got the state and then you got the local. [01:13:18.040 --> 01:13:25.040] I mean, the state can decide not to, not to co-op with this hate, with the hate crimes legislation. [01:13:25.040 --> 01:13:33.040] So same thing with a county on a local level. [01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:38.040] I mean, the state of Montana, they opted out of the Gun Free School Zone Act. [01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:43.040] They opted out of the Real ID Act. [01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:50.040] That's the state did, but you're saying that a county doesn't have to abide by state law? [01:13:50.040 --> 01:13:55.040] Or federal law, if it's unconstitutional. [01:13:55.040 --> 01:14:02.040] I don't think, unless it's been declared unconstitutional, they have to abide by it. [01:14:02.040 --> 01:14:06.040] They can't just say, well, I'm not going to abide by this law. [01:14:06.040 --> 01:14:11.040] If the state legislature passes a law, it applies to the whole state. [01:14:11.040 --> 01:14:17.040] The county cannot decide that it's not going to enforce a state law. [01:14:17.040 --> 01:14:23.040] Well, what about when Sheriff Mack and Sheriff Prince fought the Brady Bill? [01:14:23.040 --> 01:14:25.040] They said, we're not going to enforce this law. [01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:28.040] Well, it was illegal for them not to. [01:14:28.040 --> 01:14:33.040] But they fought against it and got it overturned, so they didn't have to. [01:14:33.040 --> 01:14:38.040] They didn't just say, heck with this, I'm not going to mess with it. [01:14:38.040 --> 01:14:44.040] I mean, a county can try to do that, but then they wind up getting taken to court over it. [01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:49.040] And then the court decides whether or not the statute's constitutional. [01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:56.040] But the counties can't just decide not to enforce a law because they don't like it. [01:14:56.040 --> 01:14:59.040] Again, be careful what you ask for. [01:14:59.040 --> 01:15:06.040] Yeah, that goes again to the duties, responsibilities of the branches of government. [01:15:06.040 --> 01:15:10.040] Again, the executive branch is the lowest man on the totem pole. [01:15:10.040 --> 01:15:13.040] They don't get to decide anything. [01:15:13.040 --> 01:15:16.040] They have to enforce the laws that Congress passes. [01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:18.040] They don't get to make law. [01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:23.040] If they don't like it, if the head of the executive branch doesn't like a law, they can veto it. [01:15:23.040 --> 01:15:25.040] Congress can override the veto. [01:15:25.040 --> 01:15:28.040] Okay, but they can't just say, oh, I don't want to enforce the law. [01:15:28.040 --> 01:15:30.040] No. [01:15:30.040 --> 01:15:31.040] All right? [01:15:31.040 --> 01:15:35.040] That's the way our government is structured, and everything is backwards right now. [01:15:35.040 --> 01:15:38.040] It's completely upside down. [01:15:38.040 --> 01:15:42.040] Like right now, I like to see a state challenge the War Powers Act. [01:15:42.040 --> 01:15:45.040] I'm like, why are we under this War Powers Act? [01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:48.040] Yeah, that was what I was thinking when the other guy brought that up, [01:15:48.040 --> 01:15:55.040] that I would like to see some action to eliminate these executive orders that were passed [01:15:55.040 --> 01:16:02.040] umpteen years ago and no longer appropriate, but were still being held under. [01:16:02.040 --> 01:16:09.040] Well, you know, the thing is, I would like to see as our U.S. senators being appointed by our state legislatures, [01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:19.040] because if we still had that mechanism in place, I don't really think PD-51 would really fly very high. [01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:21.040] Explain PD-51. [01:16:21.040 --> 01:16:25.040] Well, it's where George Bush makes himself dictator. [01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:27.040] All right, look, we're going to break. [01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:31.040] I'd like to see some real voting here. [01:16:31.040 --> 01:16:34.040] I'd like to see hand-counted paper ballots in public view. [01:16:34.040 --> 01:16:36.040] All right, we'll be right back. We're going to break. [01:16:36.040 --> 01:16:38.040] Thank you, George. God bless. [01:16:38.040 --> 01:16:42.040] Randy in Austin, Gary in Texas, Vincent from Texas. [01:16:42.040 --> 01:17:09.040] We'll be right back. [01:17:12.040 --> 01:17:14.040] We'll be right back. [01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:50.040] That's sleepwellinvestment.com or call Bill Schober at 817-975-2431. [01:17:50.040 --> 01:18:08.040] That's sleepwellinvestment.com or call 817-975-2431. [01:18:08.040 --> 01:18:13.040] So now you're police, you got me up against the wall [01:18:13.040 --> 01:18:19.040] Nowhere to run to, but I never fell so tall [01:18:19.040 --> 01:18:25.040] You brought your big guns, it doesn't bother me at all [01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:30.040] The harder you will push, the harder you will fall [01:18:30.040 --> 01:18:36.040] Everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:18:36.040 --> 01:18:41.040] So help your brother to stand alone [01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:47.040] Everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:18:47.040 --> 01:19:02.040] Help your sister to stand alone [01:19:02.040 --> 01:19:07.040] So now your money got me into the poorhouse [01:19:07.040 --> 01:19:12.040] Isn't it funny, the water, water everywhere [01:19:12.040 --> 01:19:18.040] Not much for drinking, and it got me to thinking [01:19:18.040 --> 01:19:24.040] Plenty for bombers, but not a dollar to spare [01:19:24.040 --> 01:19:29.040] Everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:19:29.040 --> 01:19:34.040] So help your brother to stand alone [01:19:34.040 --> 01:19:40.040] Everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:19:40.040 --> 01:19:56.040] So help your sister to stand alone [01:19:56.040 --> 01:20:07.040] Stand alone your best to stand alone alone [01:20:07.040 --> 01:20:10.040] I mean, every city's got a man to offer them own [01:20:10.040 --> 01:20:12.040] Every city's got a woman to offer them own [01:20:12.040 --> 01:20:15.040] Every city's got a child to offer them own [01:20:15.040 --> 01:20:18.040] I tell you, I ain't woke up in my shit and go home [01:20:18.040 --> 01:20:21.040] Stand alone your best to stand alone alone [01:20:21.040 --> 01:20:23.040] Stand alone your best to stand alone [01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:55.040] Stand alone, you're busy, stand alone [01:20:55.040 --> 01:20:55.540] Come on, girl! [01:20:55.540 --> 01:20:57.540] Stand alone, you're busy, stand alone [01:20:57.540 --> 01:20:58.040] Alone [01:20:58.040 --> 01:21:00.040] Stand alone, you're busy, stand alone [01:21:11.040 --> 01:21:13.040] So now you're lawyers [01:21:13.040 --> 01:21:16.040] You got me into the courthouse [01:21:16.040 --> 01:21:18.040] Whole lot of jargon [01:21:18.040 --> 01:21:21.040] When common sense I do fine [01:21:21.040 --> 01:21:23.040] And when you ask me [01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:26.040] About the freedom for the people [01:21:26.040 --> 01:21:29.040] Each one must look toward the heart [01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:32.040] Eventually for a sign [01:21:32.040 --> 01:21:38.040] And everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:21:38.040 --> 01:21:43.040] Help your brother, stand alone [01:21:43.040 --> 01:21:49.040] Everybody needs somebody to depend on [01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:53.040] Help your sister, stand alone [01:22:20.040 --> 01:22:23.040] Route 1, Jerry Stevens [01:22:23.040 --> 01:22:26.040] And we are going to continue to take our calls [01:22:26.040 --> 01:22:30.040] We've got Randy, Gary, Vincent, Marcus [01:22:30.040 --> 01:22:33.040] We're going to go to Randy in Austin, Texas [01:22:33.040 --> 01:22:34.040] Randy, thanks for calling in [01:22:34.040 --> 01:22:36.040] What's on your mind tonight? [01:22:36.040 --> 01:22:39.040] Well, I wish you guys a Merry Christmas [01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:40.040] And a Happy New Year [01:22:40.040 --> 01:22:41.040] Since I didn't get to talk to you before [01:22:41.040 --> 01:22:44.040] Thank you [01:22:44.040 --> 01:22:46.040] I was calling [01:22:46.040 --> 01:22:55.040] I've got an issue with a loose or a dog off a leash deal [01:22:55.040 --> 01:23:01.040] And I sent in a motion to dismiss based on the fact that they have no criminal complaint [01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:04.040] Or information filed [01:23:04.040 --> 01:23:09.040] Actually, it's based on the county law [01:23:09.040 --> 01:23:15.040] That they have to have a sworn statement supporting the citation [01:23:15.040 --> 01:23:20.040] And I'm supposed to go to a hearing [01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:22.040] And I wanted to know [01:23:22.040 --> 01:23:24.040] I received this notice [01:23:24.040 --> 01:23:28.040] It's been well over a month since I sent all this in [01:23:28.040 --> 01:23:31.040] It's been almost three months since this occurred [01:23:31.040 --> 01:23:34.040] And the notice to appear that they've sent me [01:23:34.040 --> 01:23:41.040] Is there a form that they must follow as far as like a seal of the court [01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:46.040] Or a seal of the clerk of the court that they have to put on it to make it binding? [01:23:46.040 --> 01:23:48.040] Not that I know of [01:23:48.040 --> 01:23:49.040] All right [01:23:49.040 --> 01:23:52.040] As long as you have constructive notice [01:23:52.040 --> 01:23:55.040] Constructive notice is sufficient [01:23:55.040 --> 01:23:56.040] Okay [01:23:56.040 --> 01:23:59.040] I kind of thought that would be the way it was [01:23:59.040 --> 01:24:03.040] Now, I haven't gone and checked with the clerk of the court [01:24:03.040 --> 01:24:05.040] It's a JP court [01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:07.040] To see if there's anything in the file [01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:13.040] When I first checked before I sent in this motion to dismiss under special appearance [01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:14.040] There was nothing there [01:24:14.040 --> 01:24:16.040] Which you would expect [01:24:16.040 --> 01:24:25.040] Because they don't follow any of the procedures or policies or any statute or anything I can understand [01:24:25.040 --> 01:24:29.040] So my idea here is that [01:24:29.040 --> 01:24:32.040] What I'm thinking is that [01:24:32.040 --> 01:24:35.040] I have another couple of criminal complaints [01:24:35.040 --> 01:24:39.040] That would typically be filed with the county attorney [01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:42.040] Who would be the prosecutor [01:24:42.040 --> 01:24:45.040] No, actually district attorney [01:24:45.040 --> 01:24:49.040] No, actually this is the county attorney that handles this because it's JP [01:24:49.040 --> 01:24:50.040] No [01:24:50.040 --> 01:24:53.040] He would be the prosecutor in the case [01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:58.040] But if you file a criminal complaint against a public official [01:24:58.040 --> 01:25:01.040] That goes to the district attorney [01:25:01.040 --> 01:25:09.040] Now, what I wanted to do was file a criminal complaint against somebody who basically robbed me [01:25:09.040 --> 01:25:13.040] That I've been kind of mulling over [01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:17.040] With the county attorney and the idea that they will just throw it aside [01:25:17.040 --> 01:25:23.040] And then I can set them up to file a criminal complaint on them [01:25:23.040 --> 01:25:28.040] It's a little more iffy [01:25:28.040 --> 01:25:32.040] When you file a complaint against an individual [01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:36.040] The law is really specific [01:25:36.040 --> 01:25:37.040] Actually, you're right [01:25:37.040 --> 01:25:41.040] The law is just as specific in both cases [01:25:41.040 --> 01:25:43.040] But the case law is not [01:25:43.040 --> 01:25:52.040] 2.03 commands a prosecutor who may know that a public official has violated the law to reduce complaint information submitted to the grand jury [01:25:52.040 --> 01:25:59.040] 2.04 and 2.05 essentially say the same thing about complaints against anyone else [01:25:59.040 --> 01:26:04.040] But the case law has tried to give the prosecutor discretion [01:26:04.040 --> 01:26:08.040] In some states they have it by statute, like Pennsylvania [01:26:08.040 --> 01:26:11.040] They have first blush [01:26:11.040 --> 01:26:13.040] Here, you're right [01:26:13.040 --> 01:26:18.040] Technically, if you file a verified criminal affidavit [01:26:18.040 --> 01:26:24.040] The only way the prosecutor can dismiss, he can't dismiss himself, he must file a motion with the court showing cause for dismissal [01:26:24.040 --> 01:26:26.040] And if he doesn't [01:26:26.040 --> 01:26:28.040] Go ahead [01:26:28.040 --> 01:26:33.040] Well, I've read all that and I've listened to you a lot [01:26:33.040 --> 01:26:35.040] So I kind of have an idea that that's right [01:26:35.040 --> 01:26:38.040] But what my idea is is to set them up [01:26:38.040 --> 01:26:44.040] Because I know, as you know, they'll typically just toss it in that circular file [01:26:44.040 --> 01:26:51.040] And because they have to prosecute, then I have a complaint against them [01:26:51.040 --> 01:26:52.040] Exactly [01:26:52.040 --> 01:26:59.040] And my question really becomes is how long after I file with them can I file against them? [01:26:59.040 --> 01:27:05.040] Because, you know, how do you determine that they've basically, you know, blown off their duty? [01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:10.040] And what's a reasonable period of time? To me it would be like 10 days [01:27:10.040 --> 01:27:13.040] That should be plenty if you go to the clerk of the court [01:27:13.040 --> 01:27:20.040] And say if the charge you filed is a misdemeanor [01:27:20.040 --> 01:27:28.040] Above a class C, then you go to the county court, you check the court record to see if this person's name appears there [01:27:28.040 --> 01:27:39.040] If it doesn't appear there, that's prima facie evidence that the prosecutor did not file the complaint with the proper court [01:27:39.040 --> 01:27:47.040] You know, if you go to the clerk of the court, can you request them to say, I have nothing in the file? [01:27:47.040 --> 01:27:52.040] That's exactly what I do. I give them a written request [01:27:52.040 --> 01:27:55.040] I was in North Carolina recently and did exactly this [01:27:55.040 --> 01:27:58.040] I looked through the file and I couldn't find some documents [01:27:58.040 --> 01:28:01.040] And they brought out the elected clerk [01:28:01.040 --> 01:28:05.040] And I asked him, is it just me or am I missing something? [01:28:05.040 --> 01:28:09.040] Where is the criminal accusation against this person? [01:28:09.040 --> 01:28:12.040] And he looked through it and he said, well, it doesn't appear to be here [01:28:12.040 --> 01:28:13.040] I said, okay [01:28:13.040 --> 01:28:18.040] I asked for the criminal complaint and the statement of probable cause and support [01:28:18.040 --> 01:28:22.040] Okay, I'm going to write you a written request for that document, those two documents [01:28:22.040 --> 01:28:24.040] He said, well, I just told you I don't have them [01:28:24.040 --> 01:28:25.040] I said, I know that [01:28:25.040 --> 01:28:27.040] I need you to tell me that in writing [01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:29.040] So I'm going to give you this document [01:28:29.040 --> 01:28:36.040] And what I'd like you to do is just simply state, we have no documents responsive to your request [01:28:36.040 --> 01:28:40.040] And he said, no documents responsive to your request [01:28:40.040 --> 01:28:44.040] Yes, so you have it, you asked for it in writing [01:28:44.040 --> 01:28:48.040] And they state in writing, they don't have it [01:28:48.040 --> 01:28:52.040] Now, can you get that? Do you typically find that you can get that? [01:28:52.040 --> 01:28:54.040] Like if you're just standing there, they'll [01:28:54.040 --> 01:28:56.040] Generally, the clerks will do that [01:28:56.040 --> 01:29:01.040] The clerks tend to be one of the least problems I have [01:29:01.040 --> 01:29:07.040] The most problems I have with clerks are in justice courts [01:29:07.040 --> 01:29:10.040] When you get out of the justice court level, you don't have the [01:29:10.040 --> 01:29:14.040] You know, they think they can just do anything [01:29:14.040 --> 01:29:19.040] I was in Waco recently and asked to see some criminal files [01:29:19.040 --> 01:29:24.040] And she insisted I tell her a docket number, a cause number [01:29:24.040 --> 01:29:28.040] I said, well, what's the last cause number you filed in the case? [01:29:28.040 --> 01:29:32.040] Well, I don't know, you'll have to tell me [01:29:32.040 --> 01:29:38.040] How do you assign your cause numbers? What's your numbering scheme? [01:29:38.040 --> 01:29:41.040] Well, I don't know [01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:44.040] Oh, okay, wait right here [01:29:44.040 --> 01:29:48.040] I went out in the hall and got a bailiff [01:29:48.040 --> 01:29:50.040] Come with me, I need you [01:29:50.040 --> 01:29:56.040] Walked in the office in front of the desk and I said to the clerk [01:29:56.040 --> 01:30:00.040] I want to see the last ten criminal cases filed in this court [01:30:00.040 --> 01:30:02.040] I told you, you'll have to give me a cause number [01:30:02.040 --> 01:30:05.040] I turned to the bailiff, arrest her [01:30:05.040 --> 01:30:07.040] Walk in, arrest her, she can't [01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:10.040] Just go back there and throw the cuffs on her and drag her off to jail [01:30:10.040 --> 01:30:14.040] I wound up with about ten security guys around me, all of them trying to convince me [01:30:14.040 --> 01:30:16.040] That I couldn't file criminal charges against them [01:30:16.040 --> 01:30:21.040] And me telling them, guys, this is your call [01:30:21.040 --> 01:30:25.040] You can either do your job or I'll file on you [01:30:25.040 --> 01:30:27.040] And I don't care which I do [01:30:27.040 --> 01:30:32.040] So I suspect the next time I go there I won't get that kind of crapola [01:30:32.040 --> 01:30:36.040] I'd normally never get that from a clerk [01:30:36.040 --> 01:30:39.040] Especially like a JP clerk, right? [01:30:39.040 --> 01:30:40.040] JP's is where you get it [01:30:40.040 --> 01:30:43.040] JP and municipal court clerks is where you get this nonsense [01:30:43.040 --> 01:30:47.040] Once you step up above that into the county court and the district court [01:30:47.040 --> 01:30:50.040] You don't get this kind of nonsense [01:30:50.040 --> 01:30:52.040] Okay, because see, I'm dealing with a JP [01:30:52.040 --> 01:30:56.040] Because this is based on a county deal [01:30:56.040 --> 01:30:59.040] That they're trying to extend out [01:30:59.040 --> 01:31:01.040] You know, you gotta have a dog on a leash [01:31:01.040 --> 01:31:06.040] It's based on the rabies, you know, control crap and all that [01:31:06.040 --> 01:31:15.040] See, generally you only have to do this to a JP or municipal court clerk one time [01:31:15.040 --> 01:31:19.040] They've never had anybody step right on their throats [01:31:19.040 --> 01:31:22.040] I'm sure this smart mouth clerk is used to people coming in with tickets [01:31:22.040 --> 01:31:25.040] And she's used to pushing them around [01:31:25.040 --> 01:31:30.040] She's not used to somebody going and getting security trying to get her arrested [01:31:30.040 --> 01:31:35.040] I suspect the next time I come in there I'm going to have zero problem with her [01:31:35.040 --> 01:31:39.040] Yes, sir, Mr. Kelton, no crapola [01:31:39.040 --> 01:31:43.040] So even if it is a municipal court [01:31:43.040 --> 01:31:46.040] I think for me it's a great opportunity [01:31:46.040 --> 01:31:48.040] Well, I'm looking at this as a learning deal [01:31:48.040 --> 01:31:56.040] Because, I mean, the whole basis of this thing is [01:31:56.040 --> 01:31:58.040] The dog got out [01:31:58.040 --> 01:32:00.040] It's a long convoluted story [01:32:00.040 --> 01:32:03.040] But the neighbor and the dog have a conflict [01:32:03.040 --> 01:32:07.040] And it's based on the neighbors, you know, shooting the dog with pellet guns [01:32:07.040 --> 01:32:08.040] Trying to poison the dog [01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:14.040] And the dog just takes it, you know, takes exception to the neighbor [01:32:14.040 --> 01:32:19.040] And anyway, so the whole thing is they want me to pay them a fine [01:32:19.040 --> 01:32:23.040] And that kind of irritates the crapola out of me [01:32:23.040 --> 01:32:27.040] Have you countersued them in the civil, in the criminal case? [01:32:27.040 --> 01:32:33.040] No, well, what happened the last time is I made a mistake [01:32:33.040 --> 01:32:37.040] I grew up some criminal complaints against the neighbor for shooting the dog [01:32:37.040 --> 01:32:39.040] And damn near shooting me [01:32:39.040 --> 01:32:44.040] And I didn't file them because I was trying to be a good neighbor [01:32:44.040 --> 01:32:46.040] How long ago was this? [01:32:46.040 --> 01:32:51.040] Probably about a month and a half before the incident [01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:54.040] I mean, how long? Is it over two years? [01:32:54.040 --> 01:32:57.040] No, this is in the last six to eight months [01:32:57.040 --> 01:32:59.040] File them [01:32:59.040 --> 01:33:00.040] All right [01:33:00.040 --> 01:33:03.040] You got two years, file them [01:33:03.040 --> 01:33:06.040] Rather than go argue with your neighbor [01:33:06.040 --> 01:33:10.040] Just file them and get the neighbor arguing with the police instead of you [01:33:10.040 --> 01:33:11.040] That'll get their attention [01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:14.040] Might make all this kind of stuff go away in the future [01:33:14.040 --> 01:33:19.040] Well, see, the thing is I don't think that the neighbor ever filed a real complaint [01:33:19.040 --> 01:33:21.040] He just called the sheriff because he [01:33:21.040 --> 01:33:25.040] What I think happened is he came over and released the dog [01:33:25.040 --> 01:33:27.040] And the dog took exception to him [01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:30.040] It's only a 45-pound dog [01:33:30.040 --> 01:33:34.040] But he ran up a tree and his wife called the constable [01:33:34.040 --> 01:33:38.040] And so I get this beating [01:33:38.040 --> 01:33:40.040] Let me ask you something, Randy [01:33:40.040 --> 01:33:44.040] When this neighbor fired his pellet rifle at your dog [01:33:44.040 --> 01:33:49.040] Was the dog on the neighbor's property at the time? [01:33:49.040 --> 01:33:51.040] No, it was on mine [01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:54.040] It was because I heard this weird noise [01:33:54.040 --> 01:34:03.040] And I went out and the dog was outside of our fence but on our property [01:34:03.040 --> 01:34:07.040] And it was barking because it was chasing a squirrel in the tree [01:34:07.040 --> 01:34:09.040] Because it loves to chase squirrels [01:34:09.040 --> 01:34:14.040] And I hear this weird kind of pop, pop, pop [01:34:14.040 --> 01:34:17.040] Click, click, click, pop, pop, pop, click, click, click [01:34:17.040 --> 01:34:20.040] And I'm going, what the hell's going on? [01:34:20.040 --> 01:34:23.040] So I go out there and I'm walking around [01:34:23.040 --> 01:34:27.040] And then I realize that the neighbor's sitting there blasting away at the dog with a pellet gun [01:34:27.040 --> 01:34:31.040] And so I'm kind of creeping along the fence [01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:35.040] Trying to figure out and see and watch what's going on [01:34:35.040 --> 01:34:38.040] And all of a sudden I'm ducking this shot [01:34:38.040 --> 01:34:42.040] And of course the dog is outside of my fence [01:34:42.040 --> 01:34:46.040] And our property goes back [01:34:46.040 --> 01:34:49.040] And it's a very steep cliff [01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:54.040] So I want to catch the dog because it is outside of the fence [01:34:54.040 --> 01:34:56.040] But it's on my property [01:34:56.040 --> 01:35:03.040] And so I didn't do anything other than just observe and duck and cover [01:35:03.040 --> 01:35:07.040] And try and grab the dog and finally got the dog and put it under [01:35:07.040 --> 01:35:10.040] And then I sat down and said, you know, this is ridiculous [01:35:10.040 --> 01:35:13.040] Because the dog had come home before with pellets in it [01:35:13.040 --> 01:35:15.040] And now I know why [01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:19.040] The dog had almost died, which we believe was a poisoning [01:35:19.040 --> 01:35:22.040] And I suspect the neighbor [01:35:22.040 --> 01:35:23.040] File against him [01:35:23.040 --> 01:35:26.040] And the dog has been released [01:35:26.040 --> 01:35:29.040] And I suspect the neighbor [01:35:29.040 --> 01:35:32.040] So file against him [01:35:32.040 --> 01:35:38.040] Then bring that at issue, you know, subpoena him to court [01:35:38.040 --> 01:35:45.040] Well, my thing is I don't believe that they even have a complaint from the neighbor that's been sworn out [01:35:45.040 --> 01:35:49.040] I think they just showed up and gave me a citation and they want me to come and pay them [01:35:49.040 --> 01:35:52.040] Yeah, they just want the money, so make it hard for them [01:35:52.040 --> 01:35:54.040] Right [01:35:54.040 --> 01:35:58.040] Filing criminal charges against public officials is a hoot [01:35:58.040 --> 01:36:05.040] Well, I'm all for that because I think we have some real rogue people these days [01:36:05.040 --> 01:36:09.040] At least in this county for sure, and I'm pretty sure it's nationwide [01:36:09.040 --> 01:36:14.040] It is, and it needs us filing against them [01:36:14.040 --> 01:36:19.040] And then you go down to the district attorney and you raise this big stink [01:36:19.040 --> 01:36:23.040] About filing with the grand jury against this person [01:36:23.040 --> 01:36:27.040] Against these officials [01:36:27.040 --> 01:36:31.040] And all the district attorney will do this song and dance, try to talk you out of it [01:36:31.040 --> 01:36:37.040] And you do this song and dance, seltzer down your pants like you're an irate citizen [01:36:37.040 --> 01:36:39.040] You have a right to go to grand jury [01:36:39.040 --> 01:36:43.040] If you interfere with my right, you're committing a crime and blah, blah, blah [01:36:43.040 --> 01:36:47.040] And then the district attorney is going to go back to these guys and say, hey guys [01:36:47.040 --> 01:36:51.040] You're about to get in trouble here because you're going to get me in trouble [01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:55.040] This is how we exercise our checks and balances [01:36:55.040 --> 01:37:00.040] Now, can I file, as far as the county attorney who's handling this [01:37:00.040 --> 01:37:06.040] Can I file the criminal complaints that are legit, that are not related to this [01:37:06.040 --> 01:37:10.040] With him via certified mail? [01:37:10.040 --> 01:37:15.040] In other words, what I want to do is like a sub rosa kind of, you know, here's some criminal complaints [01:37:15.040 --> 01:37:19.040] You should act on them, I know you won't, but I'm not going to tell you that [01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:21.040] And let you fall into the trap [01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:25.040] Yes, this is what Article 2.03 says [01:37:25.040 --> 01:37:31.040] It says when a prosecuting attorney is made known [01:37:31.040 --> 01:37:38.040] Not a district attorney, not a county attorney, a prosecuting attorney [01:37:38.040 --> 01:37:42.040] He shall reduce complaint, made known that a public official has violated a law related to his office [01:37:42.040 --> 01:37:45.040] He shall reduce complaint from information submitted to grand jury [01:37:45.040 --> 01:37:52.040] And you send it to the county attorney and he's going to say, well you have to send this to the district attorney [01:37:52.040 --> 01:37:55.040] Nope, send it to you [01:37:55.040 --> 01:38:00.040] Okay, see that's what I figure would happen because that's kind of my ace in the hole [01:38:00.040 --> 01:38:06.040] Even if the JP gives me some garbage that I've already set them up [01:38:06.040 --> 01:38:10.040] I'll give you an example of what I did [01:38:10.040 --> 01:38:17.040] I filed criminal charges against the district attorney for violating the Open Records Act [01:38:17.040 --> 01:38:25.040] The only time the attorney general in Texas has original jurisdiction in a prosecution [01:38:25.040 --> 01:38:33.040] Is when you file a complaint against the district or county attorney for violating the Open Records Act [01:38:33.040 --> 01:38:35.040] It's the only time [01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:39.040] So I filed it with the attorney general [01:38:39.040 --> 01:38:46.040] And the attorney general sent me back a response saying that I had to file this with the county attorney [01:38:46.040 --> 01:38:48.040] I said, okay [01:38:48.040 --> 01:38:52.040] I went to the county attorney and filed with the county attorney [01:38:52.040 --> 01:38:58.040] Including criminal charges against the attorney general for not taking it in the first place [01:38:58.040 --> 01:39:06.040] And my county attorney said, oh Mr. Kelton you always give me such a pain in the behind [01:39:06.040 --> 01:39:10.040] They wanted me to file, I said fine, I'd be glad to [01:39:10.040 --> 01:39:18.040] But what you say you want me to do doesn't absolve you from what the law says you must do [01:39:18.040 --> 01:39:22.040] And the law in this case instructs a prosecutor [01:39:22.040 --> 01:39:33.040] Had the legislature intended that this statute only apply to district attorneys it would have said so [01:39:33.040 --> 01:39:43.040] Because it was clear that the legislature understood the difference between a district attorney, county attorney or municipal court attorney [01:39:43.040 --> 01:39:46.040] So it can't be construed that they missed it [01:39:46.040 --> 01:39:50.040] I read that and that's why I was saying [01:39:50.040 --> 01:39:55.040] I came up with a strategy kind of based on what I've heard from you guys for the last couple of months [01:39:55.040 --> 01:39:59.040] Look I'll file with these guys, they're going to toss it away [01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:04.040] So now no matter what happens he's going to screw up [01:40:04.040 --> 01:40:11.040] And so even if it gets to trial I can go to the JP and say, hey here's the criminal charges against him [01:40:11.040 --> 01:40:16.040] Exactly and the JP is going to refuse to take it [01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:24.040] And then you file a motion to disqualify him, the prosecutor, because he's a criminal now [01:40:24.040 --> 01:40:29.040] Right and then of course I would file it with her and file it with the district attorney [01:40:29.040 --> 01:40:33.040] And it'll just keep going up the chain and there's no way they can ever do it [01:40:33.040 --> 01:40:38.040] They let this genie out of the bottle and it just keeps getting worse and worse and you'll find it's a hoot [01:40:38.040 --> 01:40:40.040] And it's good for them [01:40:40.040 --> 01:40:42.040] You need to work them over again [01:40:42.040 --> 01:40:43.040] No I agree [01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:45.040] We need to move along [01:40:45.040 --> 01:40:47.040] Two quick questions [01:40:47.040 --> 01:40:57.040] Your filings with the Travis County Grand Jury against the Texas Criminal Court of Appeals, how's that going? [01:40:57.040 --> 01:41:00.040] And the dreadful thing with the vote fraud stuff [01:41:00.040 --> 01:41:04.040] Okay we haven't gotten back to the vote fraud stuff [01:41:04.040 --> 01:41:07.040] We've been incredibly busy [01:41:07.040 --> 01:41:15.040] I put the judges of the Court of Criminal Appeals in front of the Grand Jury April 31st last year [01:41:15.040 --> 01:41:17.040] The Grand Jury held them until July [01:41:17.040 --> 01:41:26.040] I don't have my second set, the set that for them denying a writ of habeas corpus for lack of form [01:41:26.040 --> 01:41:28.040] That's going to be the next set [01:41:28.040 --> 01:41:34.040] Along with that set, I have a set against the Court of Appeals [01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:41.040] Russell Mortland filed an appeal where we challenged the jurisdiction of the court for lack of a criminal complaint in a court record [01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:48.040] And the appeals court said after an indictment it makes no difference [01:41:48.040 --> 01:41:51.040] That's it, they didn't address the issues [01:41:51.040 --> 01:41:54.040] I gave them a 25 page argument on that issue [01:41:54.040 --> 01:41:57.040] And they just said after indictment doesn't matter [01:41:57.040 --> 01:42:05.040] So what they're saying is that the police and the prosecutors and the judges can do anything to you they want to [01:42:05.040 --> 01:42:17.040] Violate any law, violate any right, and if the prosecutor subsequently gets an indictment, nothing they did matters [01:42:17.040 --> 01:42:20.040] That's an indictment by a Grand Jury, correct? [01:42:20.040 --> 01:42:25.040] Yeah, and I'm saying hogwash [01:42:25.040 --> 01:42:32.040] That's an abuse of your discretion and it's a crime in Texas, I'm going to see what a Grand Jury thinks about it [01:42:32.040 --> 01:42:35.040] While Russell is appealing [01:42:35.040 --> 01:42:39.040] In other words, you go to the Grand Jury and lie your butt off and then they indict you [01:42:39.040 --> 01:42:43.040] And then they're saying, well that's okay, it doesn't matter [01:42:43.040 --> 01:42:45.040] Who is you? [01:42:45.040 --> 01:42:47.040] No, you missed that [01:42:47.040 --> 01:42:53.040] They can arrest you, they can beat you up, they can hold you for 10 years [01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:59.040] They can subject you to any mistreatment they want to as long as eventually they get an indictment [01:42:59.040 --> 01:43:01.040] Essentially what they're saying [01:43:01.040 --> 01:43:12.040] All of these laws, when can a policeman arrest, what he must do after arrest, what the prosecutor is supposed to do, what the magistrate is supposed to do, none of that matters [01:43:12.040 --> 01:43:17.040] After an indictment, all of that law just goes down the toilet [01:43:17.040 --> 01:43:19.040] That's nonsense [01:43:19.040 --> 01:43:21.040] I agree [01:43:21.040 --> 01:43:26.040] That's such nonsense that we're going to ask a Grand Jury what they think of it [01:43:26.040 --> 01:43:35.040] Now, Russell is going to appeal for a hearing in bank, generally three judges hear an appeal [01:43:35.040 --> 01:43:40.040] And if you don't like the answer, you ask for a rehearing in bank [01:43:40.040 --> 01:43:42.040] And that's all of the judges have to sit and hear it [01:43:42.040 --> 01:43:50.040] And while all of the judges are rehearing it, I'm going to be filing criminal charges against the first three [01:43:50.040 --> 01:43:52.040] Your turn, Bubba [01:43:52.040 --> 01:43:54.040] We really need to go along with it [01:43:54.040 --> 01:43:57.040] We've only got 15 minutes left. We need to move on to other callers, okay? [01:43:57.040 --> 01:43:58.040] Thanks, guys [01:43:58.040 --> 01:43:59.040] Thanks, Randy [01:43:59.040 --> 01:44:19.040] And to answer your question about the voting thing, I'm sorry, I've had to put all my legal, you know, everything that I'm filing, everything that I'm preparing, everything that I'm doing, all my cases on hold right now so that I could get us back on the air [01:44:19.040 --> 01:44:25.040] And just briefly, I don't want to get into this too much, but about dogs, I'm sorry [01:44:25.040 --> 01:44:30.040] You hit on a point that is a pet peeve of mine [01:44:30.040 --> 01:44:35.040] People that have dogs, you can keep them on a leash, you can keep them in public, okay? [01:44:35.040 --> 01:44:40.040] You know what? My husband and I can't even go to Barton Creek anymore [01:44:40.040 --> 01:44:45.040] We haven't gone to Barton Creek Greenbelt for years because of people with their dogs off the leash, okay? [01:44:45.040 --> 01:44:52.040] I've been attacked, I've had dogs in my yard, and I'll tell you what, I will shoot them with a pellet rifle, alright? [01:44:52.040 --> 01:45:02.040] If it comes in my yard, and if you let your dog, if your dog gets out and it comes home with pellets, you need to keep it in, alright? [01:45:02.040 --> 01:45:03.040] I'm sorry [01:45:03.040 --> 01:45:13.040] But if someone's on property, the dog, neighbor's dog got out over here, and I was riding the bicycle, and he tried to pull me off the bicycle [01:45:13.040 --> 01:45:20.040] Well, he really didn't need to, because I got off the bicycle myself, and the race was on [01:45:20.040 --> 01:45:26.040] Now, if I could have caught him, I'd have given him a fight, but it wouldn't really hurt him, I'd have just worked him over a little, thrown him back in the yard [01:45:26.040 --> 01:45:32.040] I didn't really blame the neighbor, because he did have it all fenced in, the dog just got out [01:45:32.040 --> 01:45:37.040] But I'd have taught the dog not to drag somebody off a bicycle [01:45:37.040 --> 01:45:39.040] Yeah, well, anyway [01:45:39.040 --> 01:45:49.040] But we understand it happens sometimes, and down on Barton Creek, it's my opinion that if your dog attacks me, I'm going to give him a fight [01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:53.040] That's right, and if it comes in my yard, man or beast [01:45:53.040 --> 01:45:57.040] But this is different, if the dog's on the other man's property, I ain't bothering him [01:45:57.040 --> 01:45:58.040] That's right [01:45:58.040 --> 01:46:00.040] Yeah, and this one [01:46:00.040 --> 01:46:07.040] Okay, alright, let's move on, I don't want to spend much time on that, but people who live here in Austin, please [01:46:07.040 --> 01:46:10.040] You know, there are a lot of us that can't even enjoy the green belt anymore [01:46:10.040 --> 01:46:13.040] Alright, give us a break [01:46:13.040 --> 01:46:18.040] Alright, we're going to Gary in Texas [01:46:18.040 --> 01:46:20.040] Hey Gary, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight? [01:46:20.040 --> 01:46:23.040] Sure, what's going on guys? Great show [01:46:23.040 --> 01:46:27.040] I'd like to go back to your guest Ben [01:46:27.040 --> 01:46:38.040] I'm kind of similarly situated with him, and then I filed a motion for judicial review for an IRS notice of tax lien [01:46:38.040 --> 01:46:44.040] And what I'm kind of hoping is maybe off air with his permission if you could give me his number [01:46:44.040 --> 01:46:46.040] Yes, I certainly can, I certainly can [01:46:46.040 --> 01:46:48.040] I'd like to talk to him [01:46:48.040 --> 01:46:55.040] Anyway, I filed a motion over the tax lien in November, and it hadn't been heard yet [01:46:55.040 --> 01:47:02.040] We had an election and got a new judge and he just conveniently set it to the side and left it for the new judge to take over with [01:47:02.040 --> 01:47:11.040] But when I got this notice, the first thing I did was file a FOIA with the county clerk [01:47:11.040 --> 01:47:22.040] And I asked the county clerk for proof of the lien with wet ink and written signature on it [01:47:22.040 --> 01:47:28.040] Which is required under state law and also under the Uniform Federal Lien Registration Act [01:47:28.040 --> 01:47:37.040] And then I asked for the accompanying certification verifying the validity of the lien which is also part of the Uniform Lien Registration Act [01:47:37.040 --> 01:47:45.040] As for a copy of the verification pursuant to 26 USC 6201 blah blah blah [01:47:45.040 --> 01:47:54.040] And the clerk answered back saying that she could not respond to any of my requests [01:47:54.040 --> 01:48:04.040] So I sent, when I filed this motion in district court, I sent my request to the clerk, my FOIA, I sent her answer back [01:48:04.040 --> 01:48:08.040] I sent a copy of the notice that I received directly from IRS [01:48:08.040 --> 01:48:22.040] And then sent the notice that she sent me which was a filed copy in the lien index in the county [01:48:22.040 --> 01:48:26.040] Rather than the notice of lien index in the county [01:48:26.040 --> 01:48:31.040] And those were my exhibits with my motion [01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:35.040] And so I'm really curious as to what's going to happen on this thing [01:48:35.040 --> 01:48:44.040] I also sent her a letter which she hadn't replied to stating that she needs to take a look at what she's doing [01:48:44.040 --> 01:48:57.040] Because she is probably engaged in RICO and that she's converting non, the word escapes me [01:48:57.040 --> 01:49:01.040] But she's converting illegitimate documents into securities [01:49:01.040 --> 01:49:05.040] And it's securities fraud and that's a RICO action [01:49:05.040 --> 01:49:11.040] There's a point here, the caller we had earlier, the one we kind of muted [01:49:11.040 --> 01:49:20.040] He had a point and I would have liked to have been able to examine the point but he was so obnoxious [01:49:20.040 --> 01:49:24.040] Frankly he kind of annoyed me telling me how stupid I was [01:49:24.040 --> 01:49:32.040] But he has a point, if the government and tax matters has taken [01:49:32.040 --> 01:49:40.040] If the federal government has taken full general authority over the state and tax matters [01:49:40.040 --> 01:49:45.040] Like in Ben's case, the judge may be right [01:49:45.040 --> 01:49:52.040] We really need to examine that, I just need to be able to examine it in a way that's not quite so obnoxious [01:49:52.040 --> 01:49:59.040] Yeah, well I know that there's a statute in Texas dealing specifically with federal tax liens [01:49:59.040 --> 01:50:13.040] And it basically, the legislature basically said that the federal tax lien doesn't require the same auspices as a regular lien [01:50:13.040 --> 01:50:18.040] Yeah, that's the one Deborah found in Pennsylvania that was consistent across the states [01:50:18.040 --> 01:50:23.040] Yeah, but Randy, that statute is unconstitutional [01:50:23.040 --> 01:50:26.040] Well then the courts have to strike it down [01:50:26.040 --> 01:50:34.040] Yeah, I mean what it is is somebody got pressured and I don't know [01:50:34.040 --> 01:50:44.040] I'm really up to my ear balls in this deal about the states not being states and just being confidential territories [01:50:44.040 --> 01:50:50.040] I'm sick of it, where's the men in this country that stand up for the rule of law? [01:50:50.040 --> 01:50:52.040] I'm sick of it [01:50:52.040 --> 01:50:57.040] I agree, just to hear that it's incredibly frustrating [01:50:57.040 --> 01:51:02.040] Because that's what Ralph Winteroode was talking about and he may well be right [01:51:02.040 --> 01:51:10.040] But we really need a way to make this, some way to make this make sense because the pieces don't fit together [01:51:10.040 --> 01:51:11.040] No they don't [01:51:11.040 --> 01:51:16.040] If the state doesn't have any authority, what in the heck are we doing with state courts? Why are we bothering? [01:51:16.040 --> 01:51:23.040] Well the states obviously have some authority because there's state courts, there's state police, there's municipal police [01:51:23.040 --> 01:51:28.040] And they're putting people in jail, they're extracting money out of them, they're taxing us [01:51:28.040 --> 01:51:36.040] I mean whether they have virtual authority or real authority, they're obviously exerting some authority [01:51:36.040 --> 01:51:43.040] And I realize this is beyond the scope of what our caller was saying, but this is what when Ralph Winteroode was on [01:51:43.040 --> 01:51:47.040] That's what he was saying, that the courts have no authority, none of the laws matter, none of them attach [01:51:47.040 --> 01:51:53.040] And we keep getting these arguments and this guy said, well if you understood, if you weren't so dumb [01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:56.040] Well I didn't think I was too dumb [01:51:56.040 --> 01:51:58.040] Yeah well tell that to a [01:51:58.040 --> 01:52:01.040] But the problem is he's probably got a good point [01:52:01.040 --> 01:52:07.040] He's got a good point, but tell that to the guy who's sitting in the state penitentiary who's been indicted by a state grand jury [01:52:07.040 --> 01:52:10.040] And convicted by a state pettit jury, okay? [01:52:10.040 --> 01:52:14.040] I know, that's why I said the pieces don't fit [01:52:14.040 --> 01:52:21.040] Right, you know one of the things that I keep going back to, there's a court case out of the district court in Austin [01:52:21.040 --> 01:52:28.040] And I can't think of this judge's name, but you probably know him Randy, he's one of the best judges in the state [01:52:28.040 --> 01:52:31.040] Yeah it might be Bob Perkins [01:52:31.040 --> 01:52:36.040] He's a little bitty guy, but carries a big stick, very well respected [01:52:36.040 --> 01:52:38.040] I think he's chief of judges in Austin [01:52:38.040 --> 01:52:40.040] That's Bob Perkins [01:52:40.040 --> 01:52:41.040] Okay well [01:52:41.040 --> 01:52:43.040] At least district [01:52:43.040 --> 01:52:48.040] Yeah there's a district court case that's basically unpublished [01:52:48.040 --> 01:52:58.040] But it says tacitly that the IRS or the secretary is forbidden to come into the state [01:52:58.040 --> 01:53:00.040] I've heard that [01:53:00.040 --> 01:53:05.040] Yes sir, and I think that I sent you that link once before [01:53:05.040 --> 01:53:07.040] That's a good case [01:53:07.040 --> 01:53:12.040] Then I'll have to look through my Gary folder, I'll still have it in there [01:53:12.040 --> 01:53:15.040] Gary, we need to move along, we've got about three or four more [01:53:15.040 --> 01:53:17.040] We have three more callers [01:53:17.040 --> 01:53:19.040] Okay thank you, good night [01:53:19.040 --> 01:53:21.040] We don't have enough time for all of them, I really just want to [01:53:21.040 --> 01:53:23.040] Thank you, good night [01:53:23.040 --> 01:53:25.040] Oh, and you've got to call more often [01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:27.040] Yes please, call more often [01:53:27.040 --> 01:53:29.040] Alright, we've got [01:53:29.040 --> 01:53:33.040] Alright, we're going to take Marcus in Virginia [01:53:33.040 --> 01:53:37.040] Marcus, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight? [01:53:37.040 --> 01:53:40.040] Hi Deborah, this is Marcus, can you hear me? [01:53:40.040 --> 01:53:42.040] Yes, yes, what's on your mind tonight? [01:53:42.040 --> 01:53:48.040] Great, well obviously we don't have time to talk about my traffic case on Monday [01:53:48.040 --> 01:53:52.040] Would you call in tomorrow night? We could discuss it more at length [01:53:52.040 --> 01:53:58.040] I'd love to, but I think I have one little time to mention one thing [01:53:58.040 --> 01:54:02.040] Randy made his second mistake [01:54:02.040 --> 01:54:04.040] I could have [01:54:04.040 --> 01:54:06.040] Yeah, I'll explain that on Friday [01:54:06.040 --> 01:54:08.040] I made a mistake once [01:54:08.040 --> 01:54:12.040] I thought I had screwed up, but I was mistaken [01:54:12.040 --> 01:54:16.040] Okay, okay [01:54:16.040 --> 01:54:23.040] I was wondering, could I talk to one of your tech guys about getting your audio file transcribed to text? [01:54:23.040 --> 01:54:27.040] Audio file transcribed? [01:54:27.040 --> 01:54:30.040] Yeah, to text, so you can put it up on your website [01:54:30.040 --> 01:54:36.040] If you want to do it Marcus, be my guest [01:54:36.040 --> 01:54:39.040] Come on Deb, you're not going to sit down and write all this down? [01:54:39.040 --> 01:54:42.040] Excuse me [01:54:42.040 --> 01:54:49.040] I have been spending every waking moment of my life just setting up this new radio network [01:54:49.040 --> 01:54:54.040] Marcus, I'm behind on the archives, I haven't read my email for weeks [01:54:54.040 --> 01:54:59.040] If you want to talk to one of our tech guys, guess what? [01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:05.040] It's me, that's it, I'm the only one, I am doing everything [01:55:05.040 --> 01:55:07.040] I'm screening my own calls, I have set up everything [01:55:07.040 --> 01:55:13.040] Okay, if you want to be a tech guy, if you want to be my assistant and transcribe all the files, go ahead [01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:15.040] I would appreciate it [01:55:15.040 --> 01:55:17.040] That would be great [01:55:17.040 --> 01:55:24.040] One thing I need though is to have each separate audio channel for each of your microphones [01:55:24.040 --> 01:55:26.040] We do [01:55:26.040 --> 01:55:27.040] You do? [01:55:27.040 --> 01:55:29.040] Alright, well I have to have access to that [01:55:29.040 --> 01:55:34.040] Because it's just not going to work with multiple voices on the same channel [01:55:34.040 --> 01:55:37.040] Is it on multiple channels on the archive? [01:55:37.040 --> 01:55:38.040] I have no idea [01:55:38.040 --> 01:55:41.040] Then maybe the software you're looking at it with [01:55:41.040 --> 01:55:44.040] Try downloading [01:55:44.040 --> 01:55:47.040] Oh, okay Marcus, I see what you're saying [01:55:47.040 --> 01:55:51.040] Do you have software to transcribe, is that what you're saying? [01:55:51.040 --> 01:56:00.040] I can do that, but I've checked into it and they've told me that if you've got multiple voices, it's just not going to work [01:56:00.040 --> 01:56:04.040] Have you, look at Audacity, you can download Audacity [01:56:04.040 --> 01:56:11.040] No, he's wanting me to record, he's wanting me to multi-track record everything that goes on on our show [01:56:11.040 --> 01:56:14.040] And I'm not, I can't do that right now [01:56:14.040 --> 01:56:19.040] Okay, Marcus look, I'd love to talk to you some more about this [01:56:19.040 --> 01:56:22.040] Because you're obviously knowledgeable about these matters [01:56:22.040 --> 01:56:27.040] Please send me an email calling tomorrow night, I want to get to these other callers real quick, okay? [01:56:27.040 --> 01:56:28.040] Okay, great [01:56:28.040 --> 01:56:29.040] Alright, thanks [01:56:29.040 --> 01:56:30.040] Thank you [01:56:30.040 --> 01:56:37.040] Okay, we're going to go now to quickly, Vincent in Texas and we've got Eddie from Texas [01:56:37.040 --> 01:56:40.040] Vincent, what's on your mind tonight? [01:56:40.040 --> 01:56:45.040] Yeah, if you have an out-of-state tag on your vehicle and it's expired [01:56:45.040 --> 01:56:51.040] Do the cops in Texas have any jurisdiction over that and is that a reasonable cause? [01:56:51.040 --> 01:56:54.040] Okay, yes and no [01:56:54.040 --> 01:56:59.040] I was stopped once in 1979 with a 1976 Illinois plate on [01:56:59.040 --> 01:57:03.040] And then the cop said, isn't that plate expired? I said, yes it is [01:57:03.040 --> 01:57:08.040] But as I understand, you can't cite me for violating, in Texas, for violating an Illinois law [01:57:08.040 --> 01:57:11.040] He said, you're right about that [01:57:11.040 --> 01:57:17.040] But if I see that plate again, then I can cite you, I think you have 30 days [01:57:17.040 --> 01:57:23.040] So the first time he sees you, he doesn't know how long you've been in Texas [01:57:23.040 --> 01:57:26.040] He doesn't even know if you don't live in Texas [01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:32.040] So he finds out that, you know, your residence in Texas and you don't tell him you haven't been here [01:57:32.040 --> 01:57:36.040] You don't tell him how long you've been here, he doesn't have probable cause [01:57:36.040 --> 01:57:39.040] But if he sees it again, then he can [01:57:39.040 --> 01:57:40.040] Okay [01:57:40.040 --> 01:57:41.040] Does that make sense? [01:57:41.040 --> 01:57:42.040] Yes, sir [01:57:42.040 --> 01:57:43.040] Okay [01:57:43.040 --> 01:57:48.040] What happened to bridging the gap? I'm sure y'all have already said, but I'm optimistic [01:57:48.040 --> 01:57:50.040] Mike had to stop doing the show [01:57:50.040 --> 01:57:53.040] Mike decided to stop doing the show for personal reasons [01:57:53.040 --> 01:57:54.040] Oh, okay [01:57:54.040 --> 01:57:58.040] Okay, listen, please call back in tomorrow night, Vincent [01:57:58.040 --> 01:57:59.040] Okay [01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:03.040] Okay, quickly, Eddie from Texas, I'm sorry [01:58:03.040 --> 01:58:08.040] We're not able to speak long with all of y'all, what's on your mind, quickly [01:58:08.040 --> 01:58:10.040] Well, I was calling in about a tripping case [01:58:10.040 --> 01:58:13.040] I'm currently fighting and I'm also helping a friend fight with his [01:58:13.040 --> 01:58:15.040] And I've got a couple of questions for Randy [01:58:15.040 --> 01:58:17.040] Okay, we'll have four hours tomorrow night [01:58:17.040 --> 01:58:18.040] We have four hours tomorrow night [01:58:18.040 --> 01:58:21.040] I know it's gonna take longer than that, so I'd be happy to call back tomorrow [01:58:21.040 --> 01:58:23.040] What time do you guys start tomorrow? [01:58:23.040 --> 01:58:25.040] We start at 8 p.m. Central Time [01:58:25.040 --> 01:58:27.040] Okay, I'll be happy to call in then, thank you [01:58:27.040 --> 01:58:29.040] Okay, callers, thank you [01:58:29.040 --> 01:58:35.040] I'm sorry that we weren't able to spend oodles, boocoodles of time with everyone [01:58:35.040 --> 01:58:37.040] We appreciate all your calls [01:58:37.040 --> 01:58:39.040] Please call back in tomorrow night [01:58:39.040 --> 01:58:43.040] And also Radio Free Oklahoma at 6 p.m. tomorrow [01:58:43.040 --> 01:58:47.040] Radio Free Oklahoma will be moving to Wednesday nights 8 to 10 p.m. [01:58:47.040 --> 01:58:51.040] We'll see you guys tomorrow night [01:59:17.040 --> 01:59:19.040] Thank you [01:59:48.040 --> 01:59:51.040] You better treat me good [01:59:53.040 --> 01:59:56.040] I'd like to step in and raise a door [01:59:56.040 --> 02:00:18.040] Watch my side, I'm dangerous